Candice Allen has been a high school teacher and counsellor with the public school board in Windsor, ON Canada for the last 15 years. In 2015, following a difficult time in her life and a personal rebirth so to speak, Candice launched her coaching business and named it Phoenix Rising. Just like the mythical bird, rising from the ashes, Candice assists her clients as they shift their perspective to one of personal empowerment and redefine their identity to match the person they are meant to be today.
In this episode, she generously shares her ongoing personal challenges and shows us how to be compassionately courageous in our current situation by finding peace in the past, which has brought us to where you are and freeing ourselves from worrying about what the future has in store.
Candice is a mother, coach, educator and public speaker but first and foremost, she is a powerful and dynamic individual, passionate about equipping others as they navigate their own personal transformation process from a place of deep empathy.
Candice Allen has been a high school teacher and counsellor with the public school board in Windsor, ON Canada for the last 15 years. In 2015, following a difficult time in her life and a personal rebirth so to speak, Candice launched her coaching business and named it Phoenix Rising. Just like the mythical bird, rising from the ashes, Candice assists her clients as they shift their perspective to one of personal empowerment and redefine their identity to match the person they are meant to be today.
In this episode, she generously shares her ongoing personal challenges and shows us how to be compassionately courageous in our current situation by finding peace in the past, which has brought us to where you are and freeing ourselves from worrying about what the future has in store.
Candice is a mother, coach, educator and public speaker but first and foremost, she is a powerful and dynamic individual, passionate about equipping others as they navigate their own personal transformation process from a place of deep empathy.
Elizabeth Diacos: 0:01
Welcome to the Get out of Teaching podcast presented by Larksong Enterprises. I'm your host, Elizabeth Diacos. On the show, we'll look at the who, what, why, where, when and how of moving out of your education career and into a life you love. We'll meet ex- teachers, delve into what we love about teaching and how to translate that into something new. We will talk to people who can support and inspire us as we make the transition and work on identifying the legacy we want to leave in the world. So come along for the ride as we Get out of Teaching. Episode 11... Hi, everyone. And welcome to the show... On today's show. I've got the great pleasure of interviewing Candice Allen, Hi Candice, how are you?
Candice Allen: 0:48
Hello Elizabeth! I'm fine, thank you.
Elizabeth Diacos: 0:51
Thanks for coming on the show today. Candice. ..Tell us about yourself , where you're from...how long you've been teaching, and what got you into teaching in the first place?
Candice Allen: 0:59
Okay, well, I am currently in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, and I actually came here back in 1993 to go to university, and I never left, so I have been teaching for 10.5 years, I actually quit teaching. I didn't even mention this to you before. I actually quit teaching after one semester, so I'm a high school teacher. And I quit each after semester to be a counsellor. And then I went back into teaching after getting my master's degree.
Elizabeth Diacos: 1:26
Wow.
Candice Allen: 1:27
So, yeah, I'm out here teaching a very unique high school that has a lot of special education students, and also a lot of newcomers to Canada coming from around the world.
Elizabeth Diacos: 1:38
Right, So it sounds like it's a really multicultural setting.
Candice Allen: 1:40
Oh, very, yeah!
Elizabeth Diacos: 1:42
Okay. Okay.
Candice Allen: 1:44
We're a border city to Detroit in the United States.
Elizabeth Diacos: 1:47
Right. Okay, so there's that... So do you have people from the US working in your...in...where you are, as well?
Candice Allen: 1:54
No, it's just a very... We don't it's not... We don't have American students, but most of our newcomers are coming from the Middle East or African countries. But just being a border city is quite a unique, especially Detroit, Michigan... You know, it's a, there's definitely an overflow. It's right there, you know, cross the river and you're in another country. And so it does have an impact on the city that we live in.
Elizabeth Diacos: 2:17
Yeah, of course. That sounds really fascinating. Okay, so... So how long have you been teaching for?
Candice Allen: 2:24
So I've been teaching in total for 10... 10 and a half years... 10 Years ago? Yeah.
Elizabeth Diacos: 2:31
Okay. And you're... And have you been in that school the entire time?
Candice Allen: 4:10
No, but mostly. This school actually just changed a few years ago from a special education school. They closed what, like one school, and they merged them together. But I've worked in a lot of alternative education programs. In fact, I was able to teach at our local college in a program called SWAC... School Within a College. So I was a high school teacher at the college, assisting kids who we really need to get on high school to get their diplomas. So I've done a lot of unique, unique, unique job experiences. Plus, when I quit teaching after one semester, I worked for the school board as something called a "change your future" counselor. So one of these I'm so passionate about is empowering youth...empowering people in general, but to kind of see beyond the limits of, you know, the boundaries that are created you know, in the system. So that's what I've always been drawn to. Right now I'm in the classroom teaching. Um, I've got a wide variety I teach an open level Grade 11 parenting. I've got a great nine pre-credit course, so it's called a K course. There's no curriculum for it... It gets kids ready for English. But a lot of them, or maybe at Grade 2 level and I teach that. And then (coughs) excuse me. And then I've got a great 12 university level social science course called "Challenge and Change". So I'm constantly switching my brain to fit all the different levels and the students and it's very interesting.
Elizabeth Diacos: 4:10
Sounds very interesting. So hang on a minute. Are you telling me you're not out of teaching? Why am I interviewing you?
Candice Allen: 4:10
Oh, I know that. So I am not outta teaching and I almost hesitated, but my... I had a definite plan. Can I tell you about what... Why I wanted to leave and, what, how it started
Elizabeth Diacos: 4:24
That sounds wonderful...yes! Do that!
Candice Allen: 4:25
Okay, So I actually love teaching, and I think what I love is the students and the fact that in my little space I can kind of do what I want to do. In fact, today I taught my students my eight principles that I used for my my coaching job. But what I didn't like was (excuse me), the bureaucracy of everything. Right now in Ontario. I'm not sure if your listeners are familiar, but we've been doing rotating strikes. In fact, last Friday, every single teacher at all levels at all boards that were publicly funded were on strike, support workers, everybody, and it's been very, very difficult. That's still not the reason I chose to leave. Um, But in October, I had, I had a challenging student in my classroom, and this is this was just the tip of the iceberg, and I handled it. I deal with behaviours all the time, and I'm really... I have great classroom management, and I don't get fazed by it. But this student, I kind of nipped in the bud each day. He'd apologize, we move on, but this particular day he went too far. And I told him I need to file it, you know, put a put a proper form in, and that I'd be calling home. When I called home I started out with no word of a lie. Let's start out with the positive. Your son is wonderful. Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, I said, I have one concern, but it's not a big deal. I don't want him to be in trouble. I'm just wanting to know if you could communicate with him about thinking before he speaks. Because sometimes he can be a bit abrasive. This mother just attacked me and really call me to attention on his accommodations, which I was doing. And for some reason, when I got off the phone, I was LIVID!I was so incensed, and I'm not really sure why. Actually, I'm sure why... I went down to talk to my vice principal and I asked her if she ever...
Elizabeth Diacos: 6:13
Just slow down... I have to transcribe this later. There's no way I'm gonna be able to work out...
Candice Allen: 6:20
sorry. When I get passionate, I tend to speed up. But I will slow down
Elizabeth Diacos: 0:00
I can tell
Candice Allen: 6:23
...my apologies.
Elizabeth Diacos: 6:25
Okay. You went down to speak to your Principal.
Candice Allen: 6:27
To my vice principal and I just asked her if she was familiar with this parent. And the thing that was mentioned was that most teachers were not calling her or not saying anything. Things have changed since then, but when I left, I was just so upset that I had done everything I could do...that I thought I was doing the right thing. And yet it's never enough. And I realized that I kept trying to stay in something that was really holding me back from doing what I really want to do. And I really felt that I was not being utilized for the skills and abilities that I have. Um, and I was just really fed up. But I made that decision October to leave. But then my life changed. Um, my marriage ended unexpectedly, and so I have committed to doing...ah, 3 over 4, which is three years getting deducted money, taking 1/4 year off and hoping... my plan is to move out at that point, I've got two teenagers and they will be finished high school by then. I plan on selling my house and leaving, so I will leave. But things have changed and sometimes you have to adapt.
Elizabeth Diacos: 7:35
So, so this is all very fresh for you right now.
Candice Allen: 7:39
It's very fresh, yeah, my marriage ended November 25. I believe that it was October 9th that I made the decision to leave, and I had to have a plan. So I wasn't just gonna walk away
Elizabeth Diacos: 7:49
So, October 9 you decided you were gonna leave teaching?
Candice Allen: 7:53
Yes.
Elizabeth Diacos: 7:54
Okay. And so you started to set that in motion.
Candice Allen: 7:58
Yeah.
Elizabeth Diacos: 7:59
So what...what were you doing to get that in motion?
Candice Allen: 8:03
I had communicated with Human Resources. Um, I felt that, because I have a toddler as well and because my children were in school that... in high school that I wanted to be in this, you know... honestly, let's talk security. You know, I make a great income. It's mostly the income and the benefits. And so I had a plan. Like I said, it changed because of, um, the separation Because what I was hoping so in November... Um, it was I got back from a conference the day my husband left me, and that conference was about investing in my business. So I had gotten a financial adviser to come in to discuss with my partner and myself about finances, with regards to leaving teaching and what we could do to prepare. So I do believe that preparation is paramount. Um, and that was my plan. I wanted able to rely on him financially a little bit to pursue my business, but I still have the ?.and plan
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:03
So before you went away, you'd had this conversation with your financial advisor.
Candice Allen: 9:07
Yeah.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:08
You'd have found out. What? Your position was?
Candice Allen: 9:10
Yes.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:11
Went off on the conference. And when you came back, there was this bombshell!
Candice Allen: 9:15
Yeah, especially. I invested in my business, $12,500.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:20
Okay, so you...
Candice Allen: 9:21
so that that was a huge... which we discussed with the financial advisor.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:26
Right...
Candice Allen: 9:26
When I came back, he left and he never came back. And he'd actually told me that... he actually said that he couldn't continue to allow me to believe that he supported my decision to leave teaching, but yet he'd never communicated that before. So it was quite a shock, but it hasn't stopped me for wanting to move forward.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:47
Wow! you're an amazing, really resilient woman!
Candice Allen: 9:51
I am! That's why my business is called Phoenix Rising.
Elizabeth Diacos: 0:00
Ah, very appropriate!
Candice Allen: 9:56
It's all about coming back. Yep.
Elizabeth Diacos: 9:59
Was it called that before this all happened?
Candice Allen: 10:00
Yes? I have a huge tattoo on my arm. My license plate is Phoenix Rising. It's not just the name of my business. It's really about the transformation that I've already gone through. And I'm once again ...living that right now and not losing, because I think sometimes when you have a goal, right? I wanted to leave teaching. I was set on it. I did all the things that I thought I could do. Like I said, I contacted HR. I made a plan. I talked to my union president... like all these different things. One thing I was thinking about doing... was to not leave completely but to move into supply teaching because, like I said, I actually still enjoy the students. But it's all the other things. I just kind of want to go in and go out
Elizabeth Diacos: 10:43
yep.
Candice Allen: 10:43
I don't even know if that's something I'm even looking at anymore.
Elizabeth Diacos: 10:46
Okay, so ...so basically, now that's not even on the agenda. You you're just gonna take this 3 over 4 so that you've got a year to get it to work and that's going to be where you devote your energy?
Candice Allen: 10:59
Yeah. Plus, I have three years to be building and growing. I am committed to this mentoring program that I invested in to assist me in building my online business and to take it from just local to global. And I have confidence. And... because if you lose the dream then everything starts to change, you know, like you start to create the reality. My reality changed when my husband left. It was almost like, well, now I can't do it anymore.
Elizabeth Diacos: 11:27
Right
Candice Allen: 11:28
But, I don't want to believe that. I want to believe that maybe it shifted and maybe it's a little bit different, but I'm still moving forward with the same time plan. And I just want to believe that I can
Elizabeth Diacos: 11:38
Yeah,
Candice Allen: 11:39
....but I will.
Elizabeth Diacos: 11:40
And so, yes, So a lot of people when I talk to them, you know, because I obviously I help teachers get out of teaching.
Candice Allen: 11:48
Yes.
Elizabeth Diacos: 11:49
Um, And when I talk to people about that, they just say to me "like well, you're being unrealistic. You know, I've got all these commitments" that in, like, in your situation right now, you've got all these commitments you've got kids in senior secondary college or they're heading into that. You've got a little one as well..are you crazy? Like, how do you think you're gonna get out?
Candice Allen: 12:13
Well, my kids believe in me? My kids seem to think that I'm going to be a multi -millionaire one day and that they believe in what I'm doing. And that's huge. And you know what? I think the only thing that really keeps us in, is fear. And like I said, I'm making... it's on the sunshine list. Now, I don't know if you guys do that over there, but when you're in a public servant and you make over $100,000 they put your name in the newspaper.
Candice Allen: 12:41
Really?
Candice Allen: 12:41
Yeah, that's what they do. So maybe that's where all the hate towards teachers come from.
Elizabeth Diacos: 12:46
They do NOT do that here.
Candice Allen: 12:47
Yeah, that's what they do. So firefighters and whatever... it's it's all in there. Police officers... Um, so obviously I have a secure income. Um I mean, I'm, uh, high on the the seniority list so I can stay at my school. Get my choice of courses... benefits ..our benefits are amazing. I can go for massages, chiropractic, and then we have a pension and summers off. Why would you want to leave that right? Um, and especially with responsibilities of my children. But my children, I want to teach my children to do what they love doing and not to be stuck in something. Um, And I have to just believe that even if I took a less paying job and... to supplement my income until whatever might happen, at least I'll be following my heart. And.... And if it fails, I'm still a teacher. I mean, if I wanted to go back, I could. Would it look the same? Maybe not. But I just believe in that journey. And that's what I'm trying to teach my Children. So I'm not gonna leave us destitute. I have a plan. I'm intelligent. I'm not gonna forget all that I bring. Aside from just the lessons that I teach the curriculum that I cover. I am so much more than that. But I think the longer that we're in teaching, sometimes we forget about what we came in with.
Elizabeth Diacos: 14:06
Yeah, absolutely. So. So, as you're kind of leaving you must have done some training along the way. So what training have you done...or what courses have you invested in to get you to the point where you're ready to grow your business now? I mean, I know you said you invested in the actual business.
Candice Allen: 14:26
Yeah, you know, you're a coach. So what? What have you done to become a
Elizabeth Diacos: 14:30
Yeah, you know, you're a coach. So what? What have you done to become a coach?
Candice Allen: 14:30
Well, I have a Master's degree in Educational Psychology. And so we learned a lot about counselling and and working with people, listening to their journeys and their stories. Plus in all my positions as a teacher. As I mentioned, I left teaching to be a counsellor. And, um, it's... and all the special education, the alternative programs to reengage, disengaged youth. That's something that I've always been doing and using my skills always, with it. So I realised that what I'd been doing for my career the whole time is what I'm offering in my coaching program. Plus, I've been trained in mindfulness techniques. Um, I study forgiveness using Ho'oponopono which is a Hawaiian forgiveness method. And...and that business investment that I made is with a very interesting mentoring program, actually out of Australia. And what they're doing is guiding me in building my business to be online rather than what I've been doing for five years just in my local community..... Teaching workshops, mentoring. Doing readings. Whatnot? So I'm just expanding what I've already been doing. So that's my background.
Elizabeth Diacos: 15:43
Yeah, wow, okay, so it's actually quite comprehensive.
Candice Allen: 15:47
Yeah,
Elizabeth Diacos: 15:47
So you said that, you know, you've had to go through this adversity, and so you're not fully out yet. What was your plan? When were you actually going to leave? Were you still gonna do the 3 over 4?
Candice Allen: 16:03
Yep. The 3 over 4 was actually decided before I decided to leave teaching.
Elizabeth Diacos: 16:07
Oh, ok
Candice Allen: 16:08
Because the funny thing enough was that back in 2016 I had actually started to do a 4 over 5 and that I found out, unexpectedly, that I was pregnant. So I'd started the deductions in September. In November, I found out I was pregnant through a vasectomy at 41. And so I ended up canceling that, in fact, next September would be my fifth year, and I'd be off. So that had already been something that I've been thinking about doing. I actually told human resources, that if I did not take a break, I thought that I might need to take a break for mental health
Elizabeth Diacos: 16:45
Yeah
Candice Allen: 16:45
So something needed to stop, but 3 over 4 gave me hope. So this is literally before I decide to leave.
Elizabeth Diacos: 16:51
Yeah
Candice Allen: 16:51
I thought, Let me just do this and take a break. And then I decided I'm gonna do that, and then I'm gonna leave.
Elizabeth Diacos: 16:58
Right? Okay. So you So you had this plan in place?
Candice Allen: 17:02
Yeah.
Elizabeth Diacos: 17:02
What...what advice would you give to someone who's feeling stuck? Because if anyone stuck, I feel like it. It's you, like you're you know, you've been left by your husband. You had all these plans that you were kind of working on. And now everything's had to kind of shift for you. And yet there's this real sense of of hope and optimism that's sort of shining out of you. But what advice would you give to someone who's in a really dark place, or who's feeling stuck.
Candice Allen: 17:36
Well, the number one thing I would do is talk about gratitude. So when you're talking about your job and how much can't stand and how much you want to get out, imagine what that energy looks like. So what...Because I was there. I was like, and I, I've always loved the students, even that student that was challenging me. I'm always thinking about don't take it personal, whatever. But when you are in a negative state, if you're feeling dark, if you're feeling stuck, that's kind of to me the reality that you create. So to begin with immediately today, how can you shift your perspective and start with gratitude? So I'm very thankful that I'm a teacher. I'm so very thankful I have the income, that I have, the benefits and all these different things that I have for now, However, if you're scared or you're wondering what to do next, once you go to gratitude, that will change your mindset, and then trust the journey. I feel like when you get something building up inside, whether it's a marriage or your job or whatever, and you feel called to do something else. Okay, here's a little saying right. The neighbour goes to visit his buddy and he goes over there and he hears the man's dog whining. You know, the crying like, rah, rah, rah and the guy's like, "What's wrong with your dog?" And the man says he's sitting on a nail in. The man asked," Why doesn't he get off? "And he says, "I guess it doesn't hurt enough!" and I use that all the time because you could be whining and complaining and bitching or whatever. But how long will you stay in there? So... and I have real big concerns about financial security. I do not have parents. My...I was the sole survivor of a car accident when I was 14. That killed my family. In fact, my little brother's birthday's on Wednesday and he's four years younger than me. He died when he was 10, and he'd be turning 42. So the Phoenix Rising is a part of my life journey and I also believe that, but I don't want to struggle and suffer all the time. But what am I choosing to keep myself in? What are you choosing to remain in? That's going against what your soul's purpose is? I am beyond a classroom teacher. Am I a teacher? Yes, and I will always teach. But I've always said I want to teach people who want to learn. I'm scared. I am scared. I have three children, but I have an education fund for all of them, and when they go off I encourage them to like, when they start working to save some of their money to contribute to their education. Will they have debt one day? Maybe. But you know what? I've shown them to fight for what they want. Lucy...maybe will have an apartment one day instead of this, you know, four bedrooms, split level house, and we'll live in a different neighbourhood. But we will be okay. And I am intelligent. I've got something to offer, and I have to believe in myself. If other people are gonna believe in me, it starts with me. And I think it's all about trusting and surrendering. What else can you do?
Elizabeth Diacos: 20:17
So powerful. Thank you for sharing that. It's really inspiring. And it sounds like you have really been through a hell of a lot in your lifetime.
Candice Allen: 20:25
I have... I'm ready for awesome things to come my way. And they are coming.
Elizabeth Diacos: 20:29
And it sounds like there's a book one day as well in, in all that
Candice Allen: 20:32
it's already in the works!
Elizabeth Diacos: 20:35
I can't wait to read that...ok... So you're in Canada. And at the moment you're kind of working in your local community?
Candice Allen: 20:44
Yes.
Elizabeth Diacos: 20:45
So if someone wanted to get in touch with you to use your service. Can you tell us a bit about precisely what it is that you're offering? And how would they get in touch with you?
Candice Allen: 20:56
Certainly. So right now I'm actually working on launching a pilot program. As I'm building my coaching business to be more global, I'm offering a great deal right now. What will be over $3000 with the investment is only $997 right now. And with that comes 12 modules. So it begins with kind of looking at where you're at and identifying... So the first thing you need to do is recognize, um, what are blocks are what our emotional blocks are, where they're coming from. And then I have the eight principles that we work through. So there's modules, there's videos, live chat, some group things. Um, and it's a 12 week program. So what people can do... i
Elizabeth Diacos: 21:35
Is this all online?
Candice Allen: 21:36
It's all online. Yeah, but also through zoom. So the live is through Zoom. Like what we're doing right now,
Elizabeth Diacos: 21:42
right? Okay, that's part of it. Maybe we can put some links and things in the show notes for this episode
Candice Allen: 21:49
That'd be great
Elizabeth Diacos: 21:49
your website on. Also, um, we won't be up on You Tube, but it will be on the Buzzsprout hosting platforms so that people could find it there as well
Candice Allen: 21:58
.And one thing I recommend people do is if they're on Facebook, they can check out my Facebook page, which is called Phoenix Rising. And, um, I have a private Facebook group where I'm sharing my transformational journey.... as I'm going through the separation. I'm very authentic and vulnerable because what's interesting is these principles came up in 2013 when I was going through a huge transformation, and now I'm going through the separation. So those are things I've been using all the time. But now I'm consciously using them to work through this difficulty in my life, this transition that's affecting my whole family, and I'm using them, and I'm sharing that with the public in a private format for people who're really committed to knowing more. So it's not open to everybody, but for your listeners. If they're interested in joining that, I would love to include them in that. So the page is called Phoenix Rising
Elizabeth Diacos: 22:49
Is it a page or a group?
Candice Allen: 22:51
It is a private group. Sorry, the page is called.... So my business pages called Phoenix Rising. But within that, there's a private group for, you know, whoever is interested in that....your listeners.
Elizabeth Diacos: 23:02
Okay, that's great. Thank you. And so I know that you're on your way out and this is not complete yet, and I guess it would have never be complete. But what's life like for you now?
Candice Allen: 23:18
Well, I'll tell you that before the separation, there was this big yearning to get out sooner. And even though I was trying to be positive, I just couldn't wait for that to happen. The separation kind of made me realise that I have to be in this moment. So my new mantra has been just keep moving forward and trusting that that end goal will manifest. I am leaving teaching. I don't have a doubt about it. My kids know it. I know it. It's happening. But what I've been able to do is to pause a little bit and be in the moment and just accept it for what it is. So it's day by day, step by step, moment by moment, just keep moving forward. And that's helped me to get rid of some of the tension and anxiety about when is it gonna be done? When can I get out? Just relaxing into and trusting that it's gonna fold as it's supposed to.
Elizabeth Diacos: 24:09
Yeah. Okay. All right. So, final question as we wrap this up, I'm and I'm I'm asking everyone this question from now on. What's the legacy that you want to leave in the world?
Candice Allen: 24:24
The first thought that came to my mind is the legacy I want to leave for my children. I think that might be first and foremost, and I think that will expand and the ripple effect to the world. I want to be remembered as somebody who, um saw things from a higher perspective and who was always truthful and honest with who they were, didn't hide anything, wasn't ashamed of anything and just lived their life with integrity. I truly believe that the way you live your life creates a ripple effect. And I want my Children to be proud of the mother that they had. And that is the first and foremost thing that's important to me. My legacy that I leave to the world will be... just with love and peace and just radiating truth and honesty. I don't know. But really, it's about my Children because I think that is the number one thing, who I create because that's my legacy walking out into the world.
Elizabeth Diacos: 25:16
Yes. Yeah, okay. Especially for you, where you lost your family at such a young age...that must be hugely important for you.
Candice Allen: 25:25
Yeah, I think often about... I miss my mom. She's been gone for 30 years this year... I was 14 years old when she died, and especially as I'm going through a separation and I'm out here in Windsor with no family. But I have a tribe of friends and I call them my tribe because we are together. When I was going through this in 2013 I didn't know how to reach out and let people in. And now I do. I've opened my heart. I'm not afraid of being seen in my weakness and my vulnerability, and it changes everything ...I have, like, a tear just... a cinematic tear was about to drip from my face. I'm not even emotional. It's just amazing. Um but yeah, I believe my mom...she's with me. And she'd be so proud of the woman that I've become. And that's the legacy that she left. She was only 38 when she died. I'm 45. Yeah, you know, and I think that that's exactly the legacy I want to leave with my Children. And that that will be what I'm putting out in the world. Look at the ripple effect I'm creating in my community, both here in Windsor, the country, the world...
Elizabeth Diacos: 26:27
And now this podcast...Imagine!! Like this ripples going to be....
Candice Allen: 26:29
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Elizabeth Diacos: 26:31
Yeah. Look. Thank you, Candice. It's been an absolute pleasure to meet with you today. And to hear your story. Thank you for sharing... You didn't really hold back anything. So... you... thank you for that and your vulnerability. And I have deep gratitude just for having met you.
Candice Allen: 26:49
Thank you so much, Elizabeth. Thank you.
Elizabeth Diacos: 26:53
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