spk_0:   0:02
Hello, everybody. I am salty

spk_1:   0:05
and I'm Spice

spk_0:   0:07
and we're here to talk to you today on podcast number three for the beans, bullets and bandages and you project. Or as he's also known, the three b y project.

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And today we're here to talk about clocks,

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clocks the somewhat ugly, boring, very controversial when they first came out Firearm of choice of the salty and spicy household. At least when it comes to our main bang bang uh, handguns.

spk_1:   0:42
I like my Glocks.

spk_0:   0:43
She likes her block, But first, uh, I was the first block person. I got a gentry. Glock 17. Now I have to admit that I mean, look, I'm a gun nut and I've never really, uh, been too much before the last 56 years on blocks. I just I've always been a wheel gun, man. I always liked the the rotation over the wheel of a revolver. It just to me. The one thing that you have to have in a personal defense gun is it must go bang every single time. And there's nothing more reliable than a good quality revolver because it just isn't firepower wise. They're not up there with a good quality, semi automatic A. But so I've always been a wheel gun person. But then I said I was at the gun shop. But I admit I sometimes have been known to make an impulse buy a gun shop. She's rolling her eyes at me.

spk_1:   1:53
I'm not going to interrupt him to say it's not so let's just put it that way.

spk_0:   1:58
Yeah, so anyway, here they had this, uh, Glock 17 there, and it was a really pretty color of 1,000,000 Dark pink. I like pink. I have a pink guy. A lot of guys are not pink guy, but the hot pink is my color. I love that color. And this gun, it was a very, very pretty color of pink is a dark pink. And I was just like, it will be mine. Oh, yeah, it will be mine. So I went ahead, and Dex had it marked down a little bit. It was a special order that was done from I don't remember the name of the company that doesn't, but they do, uh, basically paying jobs on blocks. It's a derecho type thing. Well, gun is just a gorgeous gun, but it was special ordered person didn't pick it up, do they? Didn't like it or something. So the gun shop was just blowing it out. Get it out. Brandy got never been fired, so I bought it. And of course you know what? What do you do? Would you buy a gun? You take it off the range picture, it works, and it just fit my hand. Really? Well, it's got a blocky, but I'm kind of blocking, So I like the way the trigger worked. I like the fit of the hand that, like everything about it. So, yeah, A I got to where I put a lot of rounds to the gun and I got to where I trusted the guy. So as usually happens, we decided, by which I mean, I decided and she agreed with my logic that if I was going to start using a Glock is my carry gun, it would make sense for her to also use a clock. So we went back to the gun shop to see what she thought I wasn't gonna cellar. If she doesn't like it, I was I'm not going to sell her on something just because it's convenient.

spk_1:   4:01
Don't make a choice for that kind of gun. You don't like to fire? No, because you won't fire it enough. You won't go to the range and shoot it. And that is the worst recommendation for a gun you might need to use in a time of emergency.

spk_0:   4:17
So I went there and I they had one. It was in four screen, which usually I just buy black. It's just black is generic. It's it's unobtrusive, but this

spk_1:   4:28
they had

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one in four screen. It's the only one that had was Gen. Three, and she tried out and found that it bit her hand perfectly. So that's what she uses. A Glock 20 air clock 19 and subsequently I bought myself a a more reasonable Carrie clock. It's a gem for, but it's in black black 17 because the pink one, really it draws attention. And that's not always what you want to do. So that's for my for my non concealed or open carry gun that I carry out the place when you know because they're skunks and there's coyotes and stuff. So you know you wanna you want to Pablo protection and also, you know it's rural Missouri so there could be meth heads. I won't shoot him, but I want some protection case they get violent with. May

spk_1:   5:24
I stay there alone at night in a cabin that doesn't lock up terribly well at the moment, in a isolated area way

spk_0:   5:36
we are going to fix the doesn't lock up very well. We're gonna put bars on it. It will be secured by the time we're done with it. But basically, right now, our cabin is just It was like a tent with metal sides. Nothing in it.

spk_1:   5:51
Right now, the defense is there's no point in breaking into it. But we're gonna fix that before we start putting things into it. That would be worth taking away.

spk_0:   6:01
So anyway, so she So she carries a 26 out there, and it's also her favorite range gun. It's just her favorite country love shooting.

spk_1:   6:10
I do.

spk_0:   6:12
So why don't you One other thing, just like I did go ahead and purchase a 26. I said 20. She loves her 19. I did purchase a 26. We have 26 that we can use for concealed carry. I find it a bit big for concealed carry But it does. It shoots great. It's just slightly shorter. Then what? A 19 s and obviously with a smaller hand guard pistol grip, it carries your rounds. It's 10 round instead of a 15 rounds, but you can use clock 17 Glock 19 magazines in the 26. So, uh, it's all good as far as that goes, what you talk about your 19 what you think of it and all the details.

spk_1:   7:10
It fits my hand well, and it's rare that there's a gun that two different models fit his hand well and my hand well at once. So it fits my hand. Well, I like the sights, Alec Sight picture of the thing. I like the fact that it's easy to tear down and clean because I like to shoot him, and I like to keep him clean. But I don't like Finland with a 1,000,000,000 parts than we've got some guns. You take him apart and a spring is likely to spring over into next week. Somewhere you buy the gun, you buy three spare springs with it because some are likely to go on holiday. That's not my favorite. Simple Tear down Nice to clean up shoots every dang thing I put on it. I wear it on open carry. I'm not gonna conceal Carry a Glock. I am not a large woman and there is no Glock that conceals well on my person. If it's in my bag, then I could put this one in my bag and it'd be fine if it's on. My person knew Block's gonna hide anyway. So there's I'd go with a small, different solution entirely for that,

spk_0:   8:22
which he mentions the site. That's one of the things I wanted to bring up. The stock sites are fine. I like him. Fine. There's nothing I don't have any problem stock sights. Having said that, I have replaced the sites on all of our guns except for the pink one, which I just keep playing around with. Digicon Trillium sites night sights Just cause I think if you're gonna have a gun that you're gonna be maybe having to pull out of your holster at night, it should have night sights on it, whether you choose to put a white on it or a laser or anything else that the night sight should at Liege, epistle should have night science if you're gonna keep it for home defense,

spk_1:   9:05
mine does, and it works at night.

spk_0:   9:07
Got the glow?

spk_1:   9:08
I have heard some odd noises at night and ended up. I would feel silly if I started walking around my house after hearing strange noises and found it was a burglar. And I hadn't brought my sidearm with me. That would be on the level of stupid. I keep mine within reach because we have no Children in the house. We have nobody other than salty. And I, who might get into trouble by stumbling across a loaded weapon so mine is within reach

spk_0:   9:36
is mine at night.

spk_1:   9:39
So when I hear a strange noise and I go wandering around, that's what I'm carrying. So I've tried it to make sure I can find my sight picture and know where the heck the bullet would be going if I tried to fire it. And I've been very pleased with it, and the weakness of my shooting game is definitely my eyesight. So if I've got a good sight picture, most other people will, too.

spk_0:   10:01
One of the things I think that she mentioned earlier that I think everybody should everybody should really take the heart is if you own a firearm and you're good to depend on a farm, you half to practice with firearms. You can't just Oh, Nick, owning a gun will not keep you state. Being proficient with the gun that you own will help keep you safe. I think it's safe to say you put thousands of rounds. Who? Mr. Block.

spk_1:   10:30
I have

spk_0:   10:31
go. I gotta talk about ammo. Um, what about if you were to, like, take, get a box of rot Gut Russian Steel case ammo? What would it do?

spk_1:   10:43
Eats it for breakfast.

spk_0:   10:44
It eats. All right, How about if you were get like, white box? American ama. What will the Dio

spk_1:   10:50
eats it for lunch.

spk_0:   10:51
All right. What about the one that a lot of guns kind of have trouble with? It kind of makes it difficult to choose them for self defense. Self defense, hollow point, personal protection rounds. How's it do with those?

spk_1:   11:06
Beats it for dinner.

spk_0:   11:08
So what you're saying is it eats everything,

spk_1:   11:12
eats everything desert afternoon snack, every dang thing up. Put in it. What about it? Every time you pull the trigger.

spk_0:   11:19
What about if you're 300 rounds into shooting that dirty Russian ammo was Def jam eats it, eats it, shoot

spk_1:   11:28
it, spits out the show already for the next. Thank you.

spk_0:   11:31
This is kind of an aside, because we're not going to do a podcast of this particular gun, right? I own a ah, World War Two, um, Waffen marked Walther P 38 which will shoot every single round, full metal jacket bullet known to man unless it was made in Russia, Then it will not shoot it. And I think that simply because the German gun was such an enemy of Russia of the Soviet Union that you just will have nothing to do with Russian ammo. I think that's what it is.

spk_1:   12:07
It might be. The Russian Ammo is intentionally sabotaging the German gun.

spk_0:   12:12
Might be that, too. Or maybe they just Russians use primaries that take a harder primer. Strike me. It doesn't do that. Jams on it. It it it won't feed it just but it will shoot anything else just fine, because it's a full metal jacket that Walter will not shoot Holland wins either again. This is just It's an old collectible. There's no point in talking about it for a survival firearm. They're expensive. They're not particularly reliable.

spk_1:   12:43
And speaking of six million parts in the tear down

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is being of six million parts. Actually, the Walter is not nearly as bad as the standard Luger, but that's not saying much Germans in their guns. They do like to have lots of

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fiddly bits, a piece for every part of the job. And every part of that complex job has its very own piece. We're not in the block with

spk_0:   13:07
the block. You make sure the gun is unloaded because you have to drive fire it to disassemble it. You make sure the gun is unloaded. You check it three times. And did you Dr fire the gun you pull? There's too little blue. Two little buttons on the gun that you pulled down used. Take this fight off, slide the barrel in the spring, just come right out and your field stripped. It takes all of two seconds to d'oh and very easy to clean the there's modifications that you could do. You could give it a trigger job, but I always liked the triggers. I have no trouble with the triggers.

spk_1:   13:50
I like trigger

spk_0:   13:52
but you can get better triggers. The Glock has you get different slides, get different barrels on the Glock. See, it's the actual polymer handgrip that is the new rated part, not the slide. So you could change out slides or put the hand guard into a car being slide unit. And that doesn't make it a short barrel rifle. It's the actual of the actual law controlled part. Is the plastic polymer huh? Shooting area? So all of the parts that were the combustion chamber are easily replaceable, and they're not serialized. So there's that. There's a lot of other guns out there that do what the Glock does, what with Block first came out, It was It was a unique thing. And it was 1/4 go plastic gun that was going to Thio destroy airport security. Little did they realize how much metal was actually in with these guys. They're just a little bit of it. It's just the hand grip. It's polymer, and it got off to a really bad reputation. But you know, those those general first generation Block's still going there, still firing.

spk_1:   15:12
I've never tried to take my Glock through. TSA never will know recommended. I'm firmly convinced that they would notice if a truck.

spk_0:   15:20
So, yeah, we don't recommend trying that, uh, but over the years, there become a lot other polymer handguns. They're much more common. And frankly, they've been There's been a lot of development so that a lot of these guns have ah lot Maur features than your clock does mean the Glock Jen fours with the you've got. So you got the back straps, you can change out. There's there's various different little tweaks they've done to them for good and bad, something semi like so I don't. But you compare that to some of the fancy model of Smiths and cigs. They have a lot more goodies.

spk_1:   16:03
I tend to cold bells and whistles. Failure points.

spk_0:   16:07
That's right. Now we will admit we are technical divers, technical scuba divers and one of the things that you're going to want to know that you want to avoid in scuba diving. If you were a technical diver, where you're going to be diving in an overhead environment or our environment, where you cannot come to the surface immediately, for example, you have to do a decompression. You want to eliminate as many failure points as you can, which means simplify, simplify, simplify, simplify all the gadgets, all the stuff that can break eventually will

spk_1:   16:44
one of my favorite quotes from Albert Einstein, in fact, make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. That's what my Glock is.

spk_0:   16:53
Yes, it is actually a very, very simple gun. So yeah, we're both big fans. If you can tell, I'm gonna be posting some some written reviews with some more stuff. Like, you know how much they weigh the trigger trigger pools of our blacks and all this kind of stuff. I would be putting those on the site. So stay tuned with that of the 1st 1 I'm gonna have coming up will be the 26 have already got it done.

spk_1:   17:17
Oh, yes. Accuracy is beautiful.

spk_0:   17:20
Talk about accuracy.

spk_1:   17:22
I'm more accurate with that than I am with any other hand gun. I've tried to shoot, and that is a long list. Bye now. I wouldn't want to be standing in front of me when

spk_0:   17:33
i e. I wouldn't want to be standing in front of her out to 100 yards because I just wouldn't. Although she is she is a darn good shot. Um, her limiting factor. As she says. It's just like mine. My eyesight, her eyesight. But with black, a short sight picture, and it's not that far from her. If she can see you, she could probably put a bullet here, close up in your direction that you wouldn't want to be standing here. We part of our deal. You know, you're you here is talking about 17 1926 is we realize there are other er, other sizes of blocks that our great the 40 Smith and Wesson blocks to gray of black makes 45 makes 3 57 cigs. Let me call kind of 10 millimeter and they're all great guns. Every one of them. They're up with their own Darryl, based off the NATO nine millimeter design and taking it from there. And, yes, 40 will hit harder than a nine millimeter. But way are all our guns Air nine millimeter because we believe in limiting the amount of types of ammo that we have to buy so that we can stop buying three boxes for three different types of three different guns. We could buy three boxes that fit one gun, and so we keep our eye. Got article there on the on the site about why we why we limit our ammo types to ST nine millimeter. All of our all of our and I mean every one of our semi automatic handguns are either nine millimeter or their 22 long rifle. That's it way just don't have any others at all, So that's done on purpose. So we're talking about denied No Meter Glocks. But what we're saying pretty much goes for the other sizes as well. Another thing I really like about it is, let's say she and I are both open carrying. We can each carry interchangeable magazines. She'll have a 15 round magazine in her Glock 19. I'll have my 17 round magazine, which is the smallest level that will fit if you don't get one of those ridiculous 10 rounders that just takes the same lack of size, which I don't advise, lets you live in California, Then you must have those and don't break the law. But so we'll carry 17 so that if we have to share, I'll be able to share with her. She'll be able to show me her 19 shoots of 17 just fine. It's you 2 33 just fine.

spk_1:   20:15
So when we're putting spares in storage, we don't have to have 16 different kinds of magazines and 25 different kinds of ammunition,

spk_0:   20:25
right? The only really a clock. But, uh, 1915 round mags that we have are the ones that came with her gun. Everything else we have 17 or 20 or 30 threes. We have several. 33. Besides, just, like take a little black 26 put a 33 round magazine. Just looks absolutely stupid. No,

spk_1:   20:46
it looks like it's got delusions of grandeur, actually, but it'll shoot through the whole lot and asked for war. So,

spk_0:   20:51
um, uh, reliability wise. I mean, come on. You people talk about the reliability of polymer gun. Anybody who doubts the reliability of a Glock, I highly advise you to look up on YouTube. Iraq vet. I forget his exact number, but you just look up Iraq, that and, uh, look up the word meltdown,

spk_1:   21:19
what you have to do to make it not work?

spk_0:   21:22
Yes. Now I will admit one of the things I don't like about clocks, and I'm going to change out on ours is they do come with the Rod inside. The spring is polymer. I'm going to replace that with metal. I just haven't gotten around to get their very reliable. But during the meltdown, it shows you that that part will fail if you shoot them on fully automatic for many, many, many rounds in

spk_1:   21:45
a row. But that's a

spk_0:   21:47
whole area's hilarious video and highly recommended. I also highly recommend his videos on groups were hitting rumbles for the car. By the way, in case you didn't, I highly recommend his videos on the the A K A meltdown. Second attempt. What they do. I mean, to watch the gun literally shooting out rounds in fully automatic mode as it's on fire is hilarious, highly recommended. So, yeah, we're actually we're driving. We're getting to our destination. So I think we're gonna wrap this up. You got any closing thoughts?

spk_1:   22:30
Does everything I needed to do? Does it simply doesn't reliably I'm there as

spk_0:   22:37
these types of guns go is relatively inexpensive. It's not the cheapest cut out there. I'm gonna do a podcast in the future about my other favorite polymer gun mechanic uh, TP nine essay. I believe his TP night double his mechanic nine millimeter, which I love. It's a turkey. Got it made in Turkey, and it's it's very inexpensive. Love the gun. She loves it, too. Yes, but it's a much cheaper gun, and I love it as well. But if if I were going to pick a semi automatic pistol for my life to depend on to get a few rounds off, I would pick my Glock 17 shoot picker. Glock 19. That's just that's what we do. If I were absolutely had to six shots to save my life, that's not the gun that would take. But I would take a Smith and Wesson model 10 revolver because ships don't ever jam. They always go back. But if I'm carrying a semiautomatic pistol, it's a clock.

spk_1:   23:46
I'd still take my Glock. Familiarity is worth a lot.

spk_0:   23:50
All right, so there we are. Thank you for listening. Will be coming right back to you pretty soon with another podcast here on the big show. It's a big show s o. Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next time