spk_1:   0:00
Hello, everybody. Hi, everybody. It's a spice.

spk_0:   0:03
This is salty. And we are driving down the road as usual. Sorry, aboutthe road noise. But we're heading through the land of the autumn Olive at the moment. My goodness is that everywhere.

spk_1:   0:18
The evil invasion of the autumn Olive, what was new fields when they made this road not very many years ago has been entirely taken over by this invasive

spk_0:   0:28
tree weed. Now we've got up. She's got a article on the site which I'll throw a link thio in the ER on the site in this podcast for discussing Autumn Olive and other alien invaders. But we're going to talk about a little bit different kind of invasive specie today. We're going to talk about the dreaded computers when the, uh, poo poo hits the rotary oscillator. So yeah, and she's kind of confused that we're taking it. We're taking the other way home. I took a road that we don't normally take, but I think I've got enough gas to make it. So we're gonna take it this way and we'll see if we make it this way. I just It's time to change it up a little bit. Don't you think I'm good with it? Sometimes you gotta You gotta take the unexpected course. No. Okay. Just turned out the regular road, But sometimes that was deception. I tried deception. And that's what's happening today. Lots and lots and lots of people are trying deception when it comes to your computers that sometimes is working. Now, I'm not gonna get into what I do for a living nor what she does for a living. But I am going to say that what I do for a living does have something to do with the regular use of technology. And people today have become so technology dependent that we decided that we wanted to have a two goal podcast here. One we wanted to do a podcast that talks about What do we do in a world where the technology goes down and we're gonna live in it? Not necessarily to like power. And, you know, the big macro, but actual technology computers, cell phones, that sort of thing. What do we do? Win. And if that goes down, when that goes down and two, her brains kind of fried. So we're gonna do a podcast where she didn't have to think much. There's

spk_1:   2:57
only pick the topic that he knows more about than I do.

spk_0:   3:00
Well, this this does have a little bit more to do with my body wax and say stuff about sleep apnea or arthritis, which is more her ball of wax ball of wax.

spk_1:   3:13
The wax was for arthritis. Yes,

spk_0:   3:16
ball of string. Your ball of string.

spk_1:   3:20
Uh, and that that could be a tangled web. Okay, I think we're heading off down the road here. That's Ah, that's writer in. All right,

spk_0:   3:28
bottom line. I want everybody to stop and think right now what they're doing, technology wise. And what would happen if that technology is no longer available? Okay. Now, for many reasons, not the least of which will be a catastrophic knock out malware virus, whether it be from hackers, whether it be from a foreign government, whether it be from our own government, who knows that could happen. It has happened. It just happened to the Ukraine. We're a lot of big firms in the Ukraine were taken out by an attack, and, uh, i'll come back to that bit. So what would you D'oh! What would you do if the Internet no longer works, what would you do if your computer, if it all gets scrammed right, and you have to go back and put it all back together again and then it gets scrammed again because they still haven't fixed the problem that's crammed it in the first time.

spk_1:   4:45
For example, do you know the phone numbers of the people you would want to call if your smartphone doesn't remember him for you?

spk_0:   4:53
Good point. Do you have an actual address book? Everyone's got one of their computer, but do you have on actual address book? Do you depend on your phones calendar, for example, to tell you where you're going and what you're doing? Well, what happens if you don't have access to that count?

spk_1:   5:10
Can you find where you're going without GPS?

spk_0:   5:12
Can you contact your friends without their phones? I know that's a hard window. That's that's a mind blowing thing for some people not being able to just text or or instagram or whatever. Facebook somebody. What happens if you can't get a hold of them via Facebook? You have their actual address. My suggestion is, if they're important to you, you need to get that you need to get their actual physical address. A simple way of doing this is say, Hey, I'm updating my Christmas card list and there you go. Really sort

spk_1:   5:57
of Christmas card list is you can explain its way.

spk_0:   6:00
Always try and go for for hiding in plain sight when we can. Like when we put we work on the place, you know, we'll call it the farm. We'll call it the Orchard called a hobby far. We'll call it Ah, hunting lodge. We'll call it a fishing lodge, a weekend getaway, but we won't call it is what it actually is, which is a buck out location. But, you know,

spk_1:   6:27
but the other things don't sound is odd as exactly going to be. Well,

spk_0:   6:32
another way that we hide in plain sight is when If you were to see somebody walking around in North Missouri, where we live and they're obviously not military age walking around in military digital camera, that would look really weird. Okay? And frankly, it wouldn't be the best camo for this area. We're here to see somebody walking around an old old woodland pattern, military surplus camo. It wouldn't look nearly as weird. But if you were to see somebody walking around in Masi Oka Real tree camel, which is actually more effective, Cam Oh, for our area. Nobody would think the first thing about it

spk_1:   7:28
that serves his camouflage in the restaurants as well. It's out in the woods.

spk_0:   7:32
You just Yeah, nobody think of thing. What about it?

spk_1:   7:35
Oh, here's one for you. If your credit cards got stolen, would you have the numbers so you could call the people at the bank and tell them to cancel the card? Supposing it was a limited thing and it's it's your problem if you couldn't get the numbers off here, computer or phone.

spk_0:   7:51
But I do know what your actual credit card numbers aren't. You have a record of them, have a written record of that. Are they somewhere?

spk_1:   8:01
Are there somewhere you can actually find them

spk_0:   8:03
right now? We're gonna soon I'm gonna sit that you have all of your critical files on your computer or on your phone backed up in some way. I'm just gonna assume that because if you don't put the podcast on hold and get to it, there is no excuse for not backing up your files. We're here that there is no excuse. I don't want to hear about it. You will return to a 32 gigabyte USB drive. Some drive cost him box. No, I don't want to hear about it. Just get it done. Stop putting it off. Going to Amazon and order one. Go to your local storm by one. Stick it in your computer. Back up your stuff. That's your best thing. And it takes that silly little USB car and put it somewhere else. Like not in your house, which could burn down and then use to lose all your stuff. Okay, put it somewhere else, even if it's in your car, which I don't recommend leaving your car. But, you know, it would be better than living in your house. Take it to your office and put in your office locking up in your drawer, but or you were gonna leave it in your house. At least I don't live in your house because you wouldn't be safe in a gun safe. So just don't leave that you're out. We get that done. There's all kinds of onside service. Is there dirt cheap? Google has a service. Apple has a service. Just just make sure everything is backed up. Okay?

spk_1:   9:50
I use ah, Google drive for a lot of stuff, But the stuff I care about, I just download it to a local computer, and then I've got it in two places,

spk_0:   9:58
but you need to have it stored in multiple places and have at least one of those places not accessible to your computer. You have to plug it into your computer. Okay? Don't just don't depend on the Google drive, because if it becomes your computer becomes corrupted and you drop everything in your dropbox well, it could corrupt everything in your dropbox. Some of these ransomware virus is conduce that they can corrupt your dropbox. They can corrupt your Google drive. It's a don't just trust that one of the big things we have out there is ransomware. And I think there's two parts of the ransomware. And of the first we're gonna talk about just a regular everyday ransomware. It shocks me. How many people get hit by that? Because it's such a pervasive threat that you need to do some things to protect yourself. You need to keep your if you're on Windows. You need to keep automatic updates turned on and you need to keep your computer turned bond over, and I so that they'll actually update okay, because he's left the pat, your virus ransomware and the wannacry ransomware, which the two really big ones lately at the time of this recording, both had already been patched. All right. The patches were already out there for every operating system, including ones that Microsoft no longer supports like windows. Exp Iain server 2003 They went ahead and issued the patch anyway, even though they're out of support, because it was such a dastardly threat. So they're not putting out any other patches for those operating systems. But they did fix us. Even if you have X p, you should go on to the Microsoft site, download the patch and install it. If you have Server 2003 you should probably have on I t person install it for you, especially using it as a terminal somewhere because I get really wacky things. That but anyway, chances are you don't, uh, Max are also susceptible, but but less so, but you should always running even if you're running a Macintosh. You should always run some type of auto wires are wires. Keep your anti virus on an up to date and use a good one. Okay, Even a V G free for home use or a vast free for home use will catch it. So this is just This is stuff that you should do. Anyway. This is normal everyday stuff, So

spk_1:   13:08
And since it's not going to take much of your time to tell you something, I hope you already know Don't click gone random links from e mails. If you're not sure what's in them,

spk_0:   13:18
please even better. Don't click on any links from email. You want to be safe. Don't click on any links from email. Yeah, unless you stone cold load the person

spk_1:   13:30
just yesterday's salty sent me something cause he wanted me to take a look at it. But he didn't. There was no other message from there that was in his wording and unique to him. We're

spk_0:   13:40
gonna run.

spk_1:   13:41
Really? I just I got it and I didn't even open it until I was able to talk to him like a You send me something from here. Yes. OK, then I'll open it

spk_0:   13:52
right? We're gonna. In fact, I'm working on getting a newsletter set up to our website, but I am not I don't think I'm gonna put I don't think I'm gonna put links in it. Just because I'm just such a don't click on links person. I'm going to say go to our website, open it up in a new window because that's the safe way to do it. Okay. Don't buy all this Facebook stuff. Just don't click on links, okay? Especially stay away. I don't personally care, okay? It's your business. I'll say OK, under time. This podcast. It's your business. What do you look at? Porn on the internet? That's up to you. Don't. It doesn't matter to me. But for pity's sake, do not click on a link on a porn site. I had somebody called me last week, so I can I clicked on a link. Oh, okay. What side were you on? And he told me he told me that I have a sight. I'm like, I didn't even really want to know that about you. Really? I didn't You ever I mean, you're No, But anyway, so we're not We're not going to set this aside. The main point of our thing is it isn't just computer safety, because obviously, you need to be safe. But the main point of what I'm saying is, what do you do if you cannot bring your electronics online? Have you thought about that? What is it you're doing? Do you have printed out what you need to have printed out? A couple of years ago, we had a really super duper ridiculous special on Backwards Home magazine and all of the back issues, a backwards home magazine in their yearly printed position. And it was everything they ever did. And it included a disc with the same information as all these printed books. I would be really nice addition to our prepping library, and it is really a lot of really great stuff in there. We don't way haven't really read it a whole lot because we really haven't needed it. But it's great to have in the library, But you know what they are. They're printed books. Yes, we did get the digital version with it. But, you know, my thought is you need to have that information in a book that you could open when there is no power. Okay, there are digital versions of the books, which I think are great books. Fantastic. Looks highly recommended, and they offer them They're out there for free. You can download it where there is no doctor where there is no dentist.

spk_1:   17:00
But we have hard copies.

spk_0:   17:01
Because when you need that book, it will probably be when there is no power. Okay, One thing else we've done, which is meaty. Just a little over the top. Just a wee over the top.

spk_1:   17:20
I'm not committing. I don't know where you're going with it.

spk_0:   17:24
I downloaded everything on the planet for a prepper library. Everything on the planet? I don't know. Yeah, that was free. Double spring. They have a little bit. I paid a little bit for a little bit of it. So what did I do with that? I put it one, a 32 gigabyte SD card. And I put that SD card in a fairly inexpensive android tablet. And I took that android android tablet and I took a solar charger. And I put both of those things inside a Faraday cage.

spk_1:   18:20
A que enamel can. In this case, I believe it was.

spk_0:   18:25
Yeah, and especially actually, I did more than just that. I did some other wrapping techniques using, uh, wire foil the bags, electrostatic bags,

spk_1:   18:40
electrostatic. Yeah, wire screens built into

spk_0:   18:43
the bag. And I put them inside an ammo can so that, frankly, should there come a day when? If we ever need them, we have access to all of these manuals. Inadvisable. Most likely work protected from E MP from solar storm surge from pretty much anything else. Short of my house burning. Now,

spk_1:   19:11
I've got one that's less extreme than that.

spk_0:   19:14
Good, cause that's pretty extreme.

spk_1:   19:16
You lose your wallet. Do you know where all the automatic payments air coming off your credit card?

spk_0:   19:24
Good tip. For those of you who use automatic famous

spk_1:   19:29
because you have to contact those people and let him know that that card is no longer available or you're going to have one big, huge snarl. We actually ran into that some years ago.

spk_0:   19:41
I I lost my wallet. How I lost my wallet, but I didn't lose my wallet. And I had all the auto payments, you know, wanted to spread them out. We have three cards, so I have spread about amongst three cards, right? No, I had a call. I couldn't figure out which company had which auto payment took me a month and 1/2 to get it all sorted out. Go back through all my building. Some of the stuff doesn't build monthly bimonthly er every three months. And, uh oh, boy, what a pain that WAAS.

spk_1:   20:13
So now we have a dedicated credit card for that,

spk_0:   20:16
and that's all. We use it for you.

spk_1:   20:18
It doesn't go in. The wallet

spk_0:   20:19
is actually locked up in the bank, and all this done with that is, it pays all of our online payments. That's it. That's all it does. And it's locked up in the bank. It's actually a double card to be always with you, and that's all it does is the bank. It's a bank card, and it just does not leave the that's it. And I have fraud protection insurance on it, and I have the amount of money so that if it went nuts, they couldn't get that much. I haven't enough in a you know, they could clean out a few $100 but that's all. I could do it. So

spk_1:   21:11
the point is, the technology is gonna fail sooner or later. Yes, so it's worth a little effort up front to make sure it isn't a convoluted nightmare. When it does,

spk_0:   21:24
people always talk about what happens if my Dr Fields No, there is no If it will failed, it will. Sooner or later it will fail and tries air like hard drives. Air rated meantime, till failure mean number of hours that may run 100,000 hours, uh, be rated 100,000 hours. What that means is, meantime, failure is half of them will have died by 100,000 hours. It's kind of like 1/2 life. Sure,

spk_1:   22:08
you could get lucky, and one of them last longer than you do, but don't count on it.

spk_0:   22:15
So back up, back up, back up and unplug your backups. Keep versions. Multiple versions are your friend and keep them if you're on a Windows computer off of drives that are shared on windows. What I mean by this is if you plug it in and it comes up to be a C drive and drive and F drive, back it up physically, remove the device from the machine because if it can read it and you get hit by one of these hijack programs. One of these, like, I wanna cry malware programs where they're ransoming you. It'll hit everything on that drive, so just keep that in mind, okay? That's what we have for you this time. Keep some written records. My friends keep some written records, keep versions

spk_1:   23:12
and have a system for labeling the version. So you know, which is which when you find him. I fell for that.

spk_0:   23:17
Yes. And you should be good to go. All right. So until next time, be well, be well and be safe and run your backups.