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Hello, everyone. This is Spice

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is a salty welcome to three B Y podcast for today. We've got got one for you on your tail. Anybody else herself too? Prepping for health prepping for helps.

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I've been doing a series of posts on the site for how to deal with different chronic diseases in a prepping situation. Because, let's face it, a whole lot of people have chronic health needs that they need to deal with. And it makes no sense to pretend that we're all super healthy Rambo. When we're doing our prepping, we gotta build it into account.

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Even Rambo wasn't super healthy ramble when he was doing the Remo movies. So I

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guess that tells you how much I watched the Rambo movies.

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Sorry. Hey, Digressed.

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So, uh, actually, it's a nice segue way. So we slide right in. The first thing that came to mind is you got to be realistic.

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Gotta keep it, Riel. Yeah. Give a real Britta.

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Most of us have plans for what we would do in particular situations. And I certainly hope you've thought about it some. But if your plans involved tracking out of the city on Philip and

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me myself running up the steps of City Hall in Philadelphia.

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Okay, teacher like yourself running across the bridges because now we're thinking about getting out of a city when the traffic is gridlocked. Oh,

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I was gonna be Rocky. Okay? Sorry. Gordian.

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Rocky was stuck in the city when something bad happened. Yeah,

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but he was Rocky. So does

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I'm sure he could jog across the bridge with a big pack on his back. A

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little choked up. This one. It's early morning. We're talking earlier. We're on the road. Sorry about the road noise. We're on the road. As usual today, we're heading over to the People's Republic of Illinois. Our favorite non gun place. Anyway, going in.

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Don't be planning to be trekking around carrying a big pack on your back If you've never direct with a big pack on your back And you've got bad knees and, uh, bad lower back

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or bad knees. Like me? Yeah. Um, what is just a little thing? I don't walk around with pat, So if I can use Mr three years ago, we were up. Ah, Tom or Iowa. And we had a little bit of time to kill and We're just like, let's go for it. Let's just go for a little walk. So we were at the Bridgeview Center and we had we had our get around or get home bags. Let's Stroman will go for a little walk. So we walked over to the railroad bridge that goes north, which is now a bicycle path. Walked across the bridge, walked back and I want a mile. Maybe about that, about that. And that was that point in time when I realized, Boy, you know, this this isn't that bad of a deal. But I sure wouldn't want to try and be carrying this thing a whole long way. I mean, and it wasn't that heavy bag either. So tell what you do. Are you trained for that?

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Well, I actually have my

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strange rumors.

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I cross train for this and for hiking up in the mountains, which I do for fun and entertainment. It works for Bill,

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not a high kissed,

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but I need to get used to carrying a pack for one of those things. So I go ahead and use the pack that I keep. That's got my emergency clothes and stuff, and it's got about a week worth of stuff basically in that bag, and that's if we need to evacuate for a little while. I grab that guy and go, so I actually just hike with that guy in it. I put a water bladder in it, so it'll be my water source, and I make sure my ring gears in it. And my nephew, Let's hand Yep, up. Most of that stuff's all in that bag anyway, So I didn't really have to add anything except to make sure I keep the water bladder continually taking care of so it doesn't get moldy and disgusting on me. I just like with that sucker on. And I figure hiking with the added weight of that here in Missouri will partially make up for the fact that I'm gonna be at altitude when I actually go hiking up mountains.

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Okay, I feel the need to put a disclaimer here. This is a woman who works. I can almost free t much saves across support. This is a woman who works out more than you do because this is a woman who works out more than 99.999999% of America. Who doesn't do like rucksack? He's exaggerating. Okay, We're on our way to the People's Republic of Illinois, right? That's what we're doing. What were you doing at 6 a.m. What were you doing at 6 a.m.

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I was going over to the gym to get a weight lifting before we thank you, but that was too many nines. I gotta tell you, I know a lot of fit people

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pressing right along,

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so be realistic. Know what you can do? Build that into your plans.

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The gym is wicked, though. Our gym is wicked where we live. They built this really nice, beautiful facility. Community based.

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So we want to support

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one block from where we live. There is no excuse. There's no excuse. Before we had an excuse. Now there is no excuse. Rain, no excuse, Snow. No excuse ice e don't get up. No excuse. No excuse. Try to execute. I tried an excuse yesterday. It was ah, 101 degrees here in the humidity. And it was just like that. In a way. So what I wanted and I'm doing

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you wanted. Did you?

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I went to the gym because There's no care in the gym. It's a recognition.

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I stopped at a lake on the way home. And what first win? It wasn't 100 and one in the water.

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So you went for a swim yesterday. So you get your exercise in that, right? Sure. What'd you do before work? I went to the gym.

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Oh, yeah.

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See what I'm saying? Anyway, I rest my case. Go right ahead.

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You don't have to be that way. Guys. I'm not saying what you did

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today before you, which is Lake in and swam. Okay, go ahead.

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0.2. Havas. Few of health needs as possible because they're gonna be a problem in any emergency situation. Health needs are gonna be a problem. If you've got that nagging knee thing, you need to get taken care of at some point. How about you get it taken care of while you can get it taken care of while there's actually good medical care available, I don't even want to contemplate emergency dentistry.

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Okay, We need to stop right here. And guys, girls, whoever's listening This This is an uncomfortable conversation because people get embarrassed about these sorts of things. Sometimes, if you are having dental issues, get them fixed. If you have bleeding gums, go to the dentist, have them do whatever it takes, including a deep scaling or whatever it takes to get that problem fixed. Because bleeding gums not only do they lead to tooth loss, and everybody wants their own chompers clicking, everybody wants to keep their own chompers. But it's much more than that because the she could tell you what the dental problems cause in the heart and everywhere else.

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It's an inflammation in the gums that causes Thea guns to bleed when you brush your teeth or something, and that those inflammatory products get into the bloodstream. And they encourage the heart disease that the buildup in the arteries that causes heart attacks caused strokes caused. This blindness causes kidney failure. All those chronic diseases, you think well, they just sprang from the blue are actually much more common If you don't FL OSS of all the stupid things flossing to stop a heart attack is in a surprisingly effective

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approach. If you're refused, just refused to flaws, even occasionally flaws, you just refuse to do it. Then you need to schedule regular cleanings

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and use according to our dentists. Use some of that anti plaque stuff.

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Yeah, which we do always all the above. But another thing that you could do to help with gum disease and, uh, well, I don't know. I've never actually watched you scrub your teeth, but I suspect you scrub them pretty hard. Um, because you do everything hard effectively. Yeah. I don't really go at it that hard. So I've used by using electric toothbrush and that really, since I switched over to the electric toothbrush and had a lot that are dentist reports. I've got a is, like a 300% improvements because I don't I don't really have tease. I have feelings. If you were to see by dental X ray you going how My family is not known for having really good enamel on our teeth, so I but you got to do it. And I know it's an uncomfortable thing for a lot of people, but he just find yourself a good friendly dentist and get it. Get it fixed. You don't want tohave a toothache in the great abs. And really, when

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things start to happen, just remember to keep up on it. I know it's not something that seems like it ought to be high on your list if you're bugging out or whatever. But frankly, it beats the alternative of letting things go south and having a problem when there is no way to deal with it.

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If you have a healthy shoe, the most important thing to remember is, um you can get by with some things in gonna deal with them. But if you've got a thing that's gonna really cut down your mobility, you really need to get that fixed. Yeah, I have bad knees, but I have a way around my bad knees. We have I've got wheels, man. Yeah, I'm not gonna be going on any kind of a long hike because of my knees, But I got bicycles. Check in, right, just fine. You know, with my own power. It's not a fitness issue. It's a knee issue. So I have a work around of something that could work. If if we have an E M P doesn't matter, my bicycle will still work. You know, there's no electrical electronic on my bicycle.

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Yep, Planning for the U. You have rather than the U you might wish.

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And you know, if if I'm wanting a to do a get home scenario and I'm really concerned about I'm putting a bicycle in the back of my car. Yeah,

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he often has his bike in the back of his car just day to day,

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just so that I could get home. And, of course, bicycles are. We've done a podcast on your bicycle fanatics. She and by both are. But there's so much more efficient way of getting a big load where you needed to go. Yeah, that's

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human power. Way to move it. Ever. Now. Bicycle doesn't fit easily in my little bitty car, but there seemed to be a pair of outdoor skates back there

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and skates. Or another thing. You know, if you're

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a skater, if you're not a skater, it's a terrible idea. Sorry about all

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the grinding. I'm just

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because it's kind of challenging to skate on roads, but it's one of the things I do. So

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yeah, and she got. She likes to roller skate, but we also you also have to keep your situation in mind like we work at the most 25 miles from our house at the most. And you know so what we're talking about, what we're thinking about is our get home situations generally 25 miles or less. Yeah, so we do that with our preps. She can. If she has a bicycle, she can get home. If they're Well, let's say there was an e m p in their car. Girl did she get home? And an hour and 1/2 on a bicycle. Uh, threat. You take me two and 1/2.

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Two and 1/2 on skates

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Don't have on skates. But if I have a bicycle, you know I'm slower than she is. I write I don't like she rides a 17 80 miles an hour more of a 10 to 12 type person, but you know, certainly is. It's something to keep in mind when you're making your plans is understand what your limitations are. I understand what you can do. It don't be unrealistic about it. Most people think Do you think they're Rambo? Really? D'oh

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need which are not mechanisms. The fact that you need to carry a pack and walk does not mean you're physically able to carry a pack

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in law. Absolutely. And so the two parts that planning is. First of all, I probably need to get a little more fit. We all d'oh for her. And and the other thing is plan for what you have for where you're at, not from where you want to bay. I want to wear a size 30 pant waste. I am nowhere within a 1,000,000 miles of wearing a size 30 pant way, but I'm not gonna go out and buy a a 30 inch Pettway spare pans toe wear, because that's not where I'm at, you know,

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And he's not going to buy a 30 inch built for his the gun he would carry around in case of an awful emergency.

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Well, I could strap it on my thigh.

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I could make a better approaches, and so can you. So the point is, these things don't magically go away in emergencies. Are you better off maintaining good health all the time? So you have fewer health needs? Absolutely. And if I thought preaching about that would do any good, I would. But I don't so I'll move on Now.

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Here's the other thing, too, is is a lot of a lot of us have I call him the Nikki Nikki. Creepy things. They're not really serious, serious health issues. But there are things you can you need to take in mind. Like high blood pressure. Okay, Is this a serious health issue? But a lot of people are pre hypertensive, okay? And another one is diabetes for a lot of Americans is a problem. But a lot of people really aren't like insulin dependent diabetes. They can either don't have it, but in a kind of pre,

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it's real diabetes if you don't need insulin, But you have high blood sugar, and you have to manage it by diet, exercise, oral drugs. That's actual diabetes,

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right? But it's not something that will kill you in a grid down situation, because you're actually probably gonna be better off because you're gonna be getting more exercise. You're gonna be just a general work or general work of life will get you up and moving a lot more, and you're probably gonna get a diet restricted. But you still need to keep it in mind. Um,

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a lot of people will be sitting around in their homes if something goes really south, actually, And if they're preppers they have a bunch food sitting around with them, so it's not necessarily better for you.

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Okay, well, there we go. There we are. It's but it is something you need to keep in mind.

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So as part of that being realistic work with your doctors Thio, for example, we had a ah situation a month or two ago where salty had a health problem. We had Thio see a doctor for we gotta take care of wasn't a big deal.

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We can actually

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you don't mind if I thought it was a hypertensive crisis?

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Yeah, it was weird is out of the blue. He's

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got some hypertension all the time. It's well managed with the exercise and a little bit of drugs.

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Yeah, it's not a big I mean, really, it's not a big deal. I mean, what was I this morning

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1 23 over 68?

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I mean, you know, it's normally, you know, and I'm often right in that range 1 2125 because we keep 68 to 72. That's that's a normal range for me, which isn't great, I'll admit, but it's not bad

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gets its okay,

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but we monitor this

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and one day he got into a situation where he ate some stuff that had a whole ton of salt and he didn't realize it had a whole ton of soul.

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And I mean a whole Thanh of salt. I sat down and ate a whole bunch of cheese curds from a local cheese. Cursory. Yeah, I'd not realizing how much sodium is actually in them. And then I had a bag, a chip, not a good diet day. Then I had a bag of chips like just little bag like Way is potato chips. And then I have supper. Of course, I put salt on my food, and before

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this episode, he put salt on his food of a lot. You know, kind of really had to cut back

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on that anyway. Long story short, I wasn't feeling great, so I checked my blood pressure and it was 1 67 which is really high.

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Yeah, it's really in the one twenties, and it jumped up to the one sixties. That's an issue,

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and it never got really below 1 40 than that, cause day I went to work and I'm like, What? Just Blair. So I go home take my blood pressure back up over 1 70 Like I need to go get this looked at. This is not right. This is not normal. Something is going on. So I she happen to still be home? So we hopped in the car, and we Actually I hate to say what we did. We went to the emergency room. I thought about going to urgent care, but turns out they would have just turned around and sent me on to the emergency room is appropriate that we are. But because of the way my insurance works, insurance work better with the emergency room.

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Insurance drama meant we went to the emergency room, get

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$1500 but you better discovered ridiculous.

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So got it managed.

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And I got there. It was too. Oh, too. Yeah, that is. Ah, hypertensive crisis. That is bad.

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Yeah. If you blow a gasket, it's really rare, but it's dramatically bad.

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So what they did was they put the drugs in me, got me back down to normal, and then we analyze what went wrong because this was not

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normal. So, while we're hanging out there waiting for his blood pressure to come down after the given in the meds. He's telling me he didn't have a particularly large amount of self. Okay, Would you eat that day? And he starts describing it to me and my eyes start getting wide, like the Milton cheese. You do know that stuff has a ton of salt in it, right? No. Well, I know how they make the cheese, and they make it by salting out the Kurds cottage cheese later in the day, which they also make by salting out the Kurds. He didn't realize they had that much sodium in him, but I didn't have a lot of Salem stuff

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for supper with my Chinese food.

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Chinese food, which has a ton of salt in it. So, anyway,

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it was not after analyzing this. It was not a bunch of good choices.

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Yeah, it was just a salt induced hypertensive spike. But once we figured out what it was, first you change the diet, so it doesn't happen again.

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But to be fair, 200 go to go to the emergency.

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Oh, yeah, that was the right thing. Bad second

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pop corks in your head. That's your stroke area. And my family does have a history of strokes. There's a family history, so I want to add this. Probably not on your list, but no, your family health history. Good point. They always ask you this if the doctors. But they do that for a reason because, like in my family, we have strokes on my mother's side.

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And when I started asking him about it, it's clear there's some genetic predisposition to the sudden blood pressure spikes.

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You know, my sister hasn't too

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fine. It'll be fine. We'll find it all that mother had be fine,

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which is now that we know what we did. And we also got some. I know what you people are our drug people, but we also got some. Okay, if this spikes, I have some drugs in my wallet Now,

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that's what I was bringing up with. So will this way. No. Yeah. We not only figured out what the problem was and changed to make it less likely, but we talked to the doctor and said, Okay, you know, we go on vacations and things were not always near. Emergency rooms were not always near care. Is there something we can do if this happens again, to give us a few days of grace or to manage it. And she came up with something a short term, one or two dose of drugs that you can take if you have these sudden blood pressure spikes to bring the blood pressure back down. It's basically a specialty drug to deal with the sudden ho hypertensive crisis. Things she prescribed. A little bit of it. I defeated up. I put some of it in each of our emergency bags. He's got a little bit in his wallet. I've got a little bit in my bag here. So if it does happen again, we now know he He knows what it feels like if we don't happen to be in range of a blood pressure cuff so I could take it, which at home we've got one. But we've got enough of that drug around to deal with a hypertensive crisis. So we had the emergency plans and it took specifically asking the doctor. Okay, I know this is one way to do with it, but what can we do if we can't get to medical care quickly enough?

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There's one other take away from this experience that I want to share with you. And this is about perceptions in the medical community as I was as they were sending me home from the emergency room. It was It had gone down and stayed stable at 1 43 which is still way too high. Ah, but it's stable 1 43 And I and the doctor said, OK, you're good. We're gonna send you home in 1 43 is good. She looked at me and kind of doctor handle of it. And she said, For the for the when I'm in the emergency room, 1 33 is Go home and relax. 1 43 1 43 If I'm in my clinic and you have 1 43 then we have a problem. So keep this. You need to go see your primary care physician and and get this figured out So I don't see you again. Yeah, so that's That's a perception. You know, A lot of times people will take the advice if they go to an emergency room or urgent care. You have to realize this is the emergency room and this is urgent care. This is not a every day you need to be in control type. Doctor, you're saying this is not your primary healthcare for health care provider. And we know our primary health care provider pretty well because, well, personally, she's a friend of ours, but

spk_0:   24:39
yeah, I gave her one of my bikes were

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actually, but it's still space. Had a real serious issue several years ago. You know, that issue was basically caught by the primary help provider.

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It boy, did she take care of it in the big fat hurry to Oh, yes, it wasn't just Oh, you have this problem. You need to go get it checked out. It's like here. I'm going to make a call, and I will set up this appointment for you, and I will get you hooked up with the people you need to see for the next step. And it was a very

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big deal.

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Effective was a rapid and effective response. So having a good relationship with the practitioner is really helpful. If you could manage that

spk_1:   25:23
and a good relationship with the dentist and a good relationship with your optometrist, I don't care that much about they're just trying to check to go. But

spk_0:   25:32
yeah, um, something else you can do with your physician is talk about getting enough prescriptions for backup stocks. I did that with it was actually a non college E doctor. I ended up talking to a lot of time with technology people. Yeah, but one of the things that we talked about is, Hey, I don't need to come see everyday anymore. How about we get a prescription for me so I can set some of this stuff back and it doesn't, You know, I don't need to come in and there's no reason for me to come and see the guy. He let me have extra prescriptions of the stuff knowing that I was just going to have some in reserve if I needed someone reserve. It's It's not a drug of abuse.

spk_1:   26:23
I think that this is just a Yeah, this is just a

spk_0:   26:28
But when it's not a drug of abuse that you're taking, they are much more likely to do that sort

spk_1:   26:33
of thing. Tell him about that drug and tell him like why? It's a perfect example of something that you would want a stockpile not urgent, but it could be a you know about what it is what it does,

spk_0:   26:50
what it actually is prescribed for. What the drug company promoted it for was seizure control. And I've never had seizures. Don't ever want seizures. Thanks, but somebody accidentally found out that it's good at stopping hot flashes and hot flashes. Don't sound like a big deal unless you've just gone through cancer treatment and you run into menopause like it's a big sell. A brick wall. You hit 55 miles an hour

spk_1:   27:18
when you're 20 years younger than people usually get menopause.

spk_0:   27:21
Yeah, and it's the menopausal. Symptoms were so severe I literally couldn't sleep more than two hours at a time. I was having hot flashes 15 times an hour, strong enough to make me break out in a sweat. I was literally throwing off sweatshirts 15 times in an hour. He counted one because I actually had one

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once it actually landed on my head. She's in the sweatshirt, came off actually covered my face.

spk_0:   27:53
So yeah, I told the oncologist about this. He said, Well, we got this stuff. It's supposed to be for seizures, but we found out it controls hot flashes. I'll give you some of it. I asked him how it works, he says. We have no clue, but it works. So I'll give it to you if you want it. I'm like, Yes, anything at this point,

spk_1:   28:13
So she would

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don't realize the value of sleep until you don't get sleep miserable. It is an enormous not only quality. It's quality of life issue, absolutely. But it's also a functional issue if you can't sleep. So I got this stuff so I can actually sleep more than three hours at a time.

spk_1:   28:36
Well, to be fair, it's not nearly as bad as he used to be. Well, they're for just after first started.

spk_0:   28:42
Yeah, I could deal with it now, but I would still be sleep deprived because I can't,

spk_1:   28:48
right? I mean,

spk_0:   28:48
I get about four hours of sleep without it. You

spk_1:   28:51
could tell I call it. I call them her. Knocked me on my head on the head pills. Which is it? Open,

spk_0:   28:56
actually. Doesn't make me sleepy at all, But I can't sleep fine without him. But four hours later, I wake up perfectly alert and awake at 3 30 or four in the morning. And that is all for sleep for the day. and that is not enough for long term. So anyway, uh, what's it for? It improves sleep if you're having disturbed sleep. It's not a sedative drug at all, but it just

spk_1:   29:23
stripes all over. Yeah, so that's just were really using that as an example of the type of thing you wanna have stockpile if you can.

spk_0:   29:31
Yeah, it's not a drug of abuse, but it's a maintenance drug that I need a lot of over many years. I'd need a lot of it, and I've got a year's worth stuck in the fridge because he knew it and he prescribed me more than I needed so I could have some in reserve.

spk_1:   29:49
And she just simply does Theo old rotation. Keep the new stuff at the back and let it work its way forward.

spk_0:   29:55
Now I'm just buying it at the rate I need it, and I recycle it. Every time I get a new bottle in, it goes in the back of the fridge and I pull out the old one. I've checked to see how long this particular drug is rated to be good for. Some drugs actually do go off quicker than others.

spk_1:   30:13
We have a ridiculous amount of drugs in our fridge. Actually have a fridge that does nothing but happy. Not just drugs, but other things. Medical to

spk_0:   30:23
a lot of those things over the counter. Things like Benadryl, uh, ibuprofen and stuff like that. It's not right

spk_1:   30:32
thing. A lot Benadryl on anti diuretics,

spk_0:   30:38
I think you mean anti diarrhea. Lt's

spk_1:   30:41
Andy. Die reels? Yes. Not diuretics. You shall never pee again.

spk_0:   30:48
Not a terribly useful drug. No,

spk_1:   30:52
especially to somebody who has high blood pressure or borderline high blood pressure. You don't want If you think you have, I bless her. Drink a lot. Keep it flushed.

spk_0:   31:06
If you think you have high blood pressure, get it taken care of because you don't want the long term misery of, ah, heart disease and degradation of kidneys and stuff.

spk_1:   31:17
And the salt is a big thing. Really? Is. I didn't think so.

spk_0:   31:20
Yeah, I hollered. I tried to impress this on salty for some time. Intensive city. Salty. Yes, but it took the hypertensive crisis to make him deeply believe that. Oh, I guess it was kind of a lot. Yeah. So any

spk_1:   31:41
rush to get along

spk_0:   31:42
and that brings us to the last point pretty nicely. Which is, once you have figured all this out, minimized your needs, talk to your doctor to get some help about with the prepping aspect of it. If the doctor might think it sounds weird to be talking about being a prepper, certainly our primary care physician. We don't just feel like talking casually about all the preps who have got around town. You know, that just seems kind of squirrely. So we put it in in the perfectly honest frame of Hey, we go on these trips. Sometimes we're not within close reach of medical care.

spk_1:   32:21
It is true.

spk_0:   32:22
Yeah, and that's one of the things we want him for, to be honest with you and to be honest with them. But that's one way to put it where it doesn't come across. They're not gonna take you for a, uh, somebody who's on balanced or unrealistic or things like that. It's a lot easier for them to see the need. Wouldn't it? Is phrased in that more day to day kind of way.

spk_1:   32:45
That's why we are. That's why the place is our is our. Where are hunting cabin is because that's what people expected here. Yeah, that's a normal thing. It's just hiding in plain sight. It's still the same cabin.

spk_0:   33:01
Yeah, and I enjoy going out there and just hanging out with nature. That's also quite true. But But if there was a reason I didn't want to live in a town, that would be a place we could easily go to. And it's getting better set up every year.

spk_1:   33:14
Yeah. Slowly but surely, Yeah, there's a couple of reasons we might not want to live in town, including something like a pandemic. Really might not want to be around people for a little while, so Okay, that's Ah, that's ah ah. A little, uh,

spk_0:   33:31
Once you know what you need, you stop physical, perhaps. Thank

spk_1:   33:34
you. I was getting lost for words. Actually, I'm actually driving through interchange right now,

spk_0:   33:38
and he has to pay some attention. Would have

spk_1:   33:40
actually based with him in the right lane. Because otherwise we're gonna end up in North Missouri instead of the People's Republic of Illinois. The People's Republic.

spk_0:   33:52
If you have physical things that are not drugs but our medical consumables, for example, you can set back stocks of those as well We think it's a good idea, obviously, to have some of the over the counter stuff in the fridge. So it's easy to get a hold of. And if I tell you what, we never run into those stupid little day to day annoyances of where out of Blank is just really not much of an issue in our lives. No, because if we actually needed to use a lot of stuff Backups of it,

spk_1:   34:26
we have stuff, no question about it. But you know, another thing we're gonna she's gonna be talking about some stuff in the future. Ah, article. I know she's actually working. I could be talked about this before, uh, before we started the podcast. There's some multi use items to that. We think that are not really necessarily well known. But she's gonna be bringing up.

spk_0:   34:55
Yeah, they're cheap, freely available. Don't take up much space. They are wonderful preps. And that you could do a whole bunch of stuff with them, and they're nothing to get. Now

spk_1:   35:11
I'll give you one one of the great, probably the number one physical item prep you can hand, in my opinion. Okay. Is dental floss

spk_0:   35:25
We've got a giant rolls of dental floss, actually, believe that You

spk_1:   35:28
just got a whole bunch of free plastic was given to me. We got more than we do. Oh, is that he gave me a truth. Toothbrushes, too. Okay, we got the IEA's to Fresh is for my keys, obviously, but I used toothbrushes for all kinds of stuff. A great first for guns, cleaning guns and

spk_0:   35:48
bearings of skates. And

spk_1:   35:49
we're bringing for skates and all kinds of stuff. But anyway, long story short, there is nothing you could sew with dental loss. You can use your teeth with

spk_0:   36:00
any time you need. Really tough, fine string. It's useful thing. She thinks I've got a pair of boots. I bought the boots, and immediately the grommets that hold the shoestrings started falling off, which was pretty annoyed at but bottom for, you know, 75% off. So okay, a loss.

spk_1:   36:20
Really nice looking boots from bass pro shop that fell apart the first day bass pro shop just on a shout out to one of our non sponsored dinner.

spk_0:   36:33
So I got out the dental floss and I sew that sucker up, and then I've been wearing them for the last four years, and they've been good boots ever since. Then they just have part of them held together by dental loss because it's a it's you can sew very tough kind of outdoor clothing and even boots with dental floss.

spk_1:   36:55
Yeah, we're gonna have several of those coming up in the air.

spk_0:   36:58
It's waterproof in long term resistant.

spk_1:   37:01
I just I'm sorry you were talking about those boots and I remember a pair of boots I bought and how that one boot liner came into such a bad end.

spk_0:   37:10
They don't need to hear that disgusting

spk_1:   37:12
story. Well, here's a hit. If it's a hot day yet, you got boots in the back. Your car with the miners in him is a hot day. You think I don't really want leaves a kind of cheese out in the car because high, I'll put it in this boot liner and then you congratulated. Don't do that for a week, okay? Trust me, it does not end well. We'll leave it at that. It does not end well. It took me a month to get that smile off my truck. But anyway, right along. So there you go. Do you have anything else for them other than take

spk_0:   37:50
care of yourself and be well and make a small Make this as small and issue as possible. Absolute. And that improves the quality of your life now and later. Frankly,

spk_1:   38:00
it don't put off the simple stuff. Don't. Okay, I got one more. You may not think you need glasses. You may not need glasses. If you're under 40 you may not need glasses. Um, Asai doctor once told me, You know, people over 40 there's two kinds of people over 40. There's people who need glasses, and there's people who wider themselves doing saying they don't need glasses. Yeah, your eyes keep growing, your lenses keep growing as you get older. This is part of what we are, so they're gonna get thicker, and you're gonna lose your class where you lose the close vision. As you get over your eyes, you're going to still keep growing.

spk_0:   38:43
And there it makes it harder for him to round up and see things close to your face. So everybody starts to need bifocals because they lose,

spk_1:   38:50
or at least reading

spk_0:   38:51
point of near focus.

spk_1:   38:53
So anyway, long story short. Even if you don't think you need him. You should occasionally at least go to the eye, doctor. Especially if you have a, uh, Dr Insurance and get that done. Because I got got a good friend who's now in the middle stages of glaucoma. They did not catch it early because he didn't need glasses. Or or actually, he did need glasses. He just was in denial. There's

spk_0:   39:22
a lot of people there,

spk_1:   39:23
and frankly, it may cost of decision. So just go. Go see your eye, doctor. At least go see your dentist. If you just do it, get to cleaning, get the You know, I prefer cinnamon. When they do the polish, you pick your own.

spk_0:   39:39
Some things you really need, the professional helpful, and it's better to get that done when it's easily available.

spk_1:   39:44
We're crossing the mighty Mississippi Easy turtles out there.

spk_0:   39:47
No, the water's up. Onda little rough. I don't think they want to be sitting out on that because we just had a thunderstorm Come through here.

spk_1:   39:55
That's true. We're We've been chasing a thunderstorm all morning. We're across. I'll tell you where we're at. You'll know where we were when we recorded this. We're crossing the memorial bridge as opposed to the baby Bridge, which is to our left crossing the memorial Bridge into Quincy, Illinois. The gem city, the heart city of Western People's Republic of Illinois. And I'm sitting here thinking, Oh, do I have my gun? No. Okay. Your gut into the state of Illinois is a Knicks. No, No. So we're gonna end up podcast. Thank you for listening. As always, we don't We're not at where I won't ask you for any money, but if you enjoy the podcast, please share it with all your friends.

spk_0:   40:48
Take care. Be well. Enjoy life.

spk_1:   40:51
And just kind of stay away from people from public of Illinois. Just a hand. All right. Bye bye.