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Hello, everybody.

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Good morning, everybody. Well, morning where we are. Good morning. And welcome to the three B Y podcasts. I am Spice. No, I'm not wrong. I'm solving.

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He's not nearly short enough to be spice. He is salty. I am spies.

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So the spice is short for a woman. It's just I'm 63 cheeses least we were when we were young.

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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. We're going to be talking about things we learned proper wise on a great, long, long the trip we recently took.

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The great American road trip was a great

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plains. We were high Plains drifters.

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We were We drifted all over the place.

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So anyway, we we're back. We're actually on the road as usual. So sorry about all the women that were in the Silverado studio, the big white Sevy Silverado studio. We're heading out to the place. So I said, Hey, what we need to do this morning is have a stream of consciousness podcast. So she pulls out her list because we had she had already prepared. She's a prepper. So she prepped by pulling out her list to talk about the things we learn now when we say we ended up in the middle of nowhere, let me explain what the middle of nowhere actually is in America. We were several times. We're in places where we could see at night for 30 miles in every direction. We know because we grow past that way on the way up 30 miles in every direction and not a single light anywhere.

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Not a light, not a telephone pole. Not a human habitation, not a gas station. Obviously even better have been prepped.

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North North Dakota, South Dakota thes air, really wide open places. But even northern Nebraska is pretty wide open. Cherry County, Nebraska, for example, is 6000 square miles, and they have less than 6000 people, less than one person per square mile. The Valentine School District. Ballantine's kick in town, By the way, we live out in time. We go there often. Um, the Valentine School District has, like four doubly floor. Was it for those one room

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satellite schools? One teacher, peace

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won teacher

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of the big One had two teachers.

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You have the big one, had two teachers and some of these schools in the county. Some of these schools are 50 miles away from the high school. These are great schools, Okay? They're called attendant centers. They're 50 miles away from the high school. It's the same county. This place is so big you could put Rhode Island in this county. Don't wear in Connecticut in this county is a big county

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with less than 6000 people

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with less than 6000.

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And that wasn't the emptiest place we were. That wasn't the emptiest county we were in

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the we're talking about. Very what? We're also talking about people who live out there, people who live in, uh, down the Dry Creek road. People who lived down the bride quick road in rural Cherry County. They are preppers. They have to be because you're cut off a large portion of the year. You just get your on your own.

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You can guess They don't plow those roads very assiduously in the winner.

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Why would you? There's one person down. It, you know, is the person's probably plowing themselves out. Excuse me? A lot of places don't put upside not maintained in the winter. Okay? So you know, if you lived down that road, You're going to be a prepper. So anyway, we She put together this nice little list and we're gonna talk about this list. We're going to see what she comes up with. Grab your list and see what's on it.

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First thing was a story from the Badlands. We're going through Badlands National Park, which was by no means the most remote place we were at. But it was far enough away from anywhere you could say Buy a bottle of water. You couldn't walk three miles and find yourself a water station. But that way, and we came across a guy at one of the scenic spots. Yeah, who was British up way on top of the hill. So he had cell phone reception and he was calling his Triple A or his friends or somebody I don't know exactly who was calling. Couldn't help overhearing because you're standing a foot away from a person.

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We're looking at this beautiful sights and yeah, he's standing there talking on his cell phone and his cousin girl. I'm not sure what she was doing.

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Male companion

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was sitting there sulking. She was just had that sulky look on her face like she was pissed. Pissed.

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Couldn't help overhearing. Good. No. The guy trying to get somebody to come out and open the trunk because she had set down open the trunk, set her keys down to get some water out of the trunk. Managed to lock your keys in the trunk of the car and didn't even have the water. And

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this is up. This is Ah, summer day, OK, it wasn't smoking hot, but it was a people's descend on me with 85 90. You know, something like that out there and you're the top of a hill. It was very dry,

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Eric Grassland. So

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it was really

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no water sources anywhere

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but being so dry it was, you know, sucking the humidity out of these people. It was really

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We were a good 45 minutes or an hour drive from anyplace that help could come for these guys.

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Excuse me a second. Sorry. Goodness. So anyway, yeah, so go already didn't finish the story.

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So we pulled out a couple of our spare bottles of water and handed him the spare bottles of water. Help was coming. It was just gonna take an hour or so, and they were

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like, Thank you, Tanking. I mean, it was really a big deal to them because I had no water that's sitting out there in the broiling sun, in the head, the water,

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and they were gonna be stuck there for a while.

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That's part of what being a traveling prepper is is not only prepping for yourself, prepping to help others, we carry jumper cables. Not because we think our cars needed our cars Generally, don't we keep them in good repair? We carry jumper cables and or our preferred method now is the jump

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emergency jump back jump packs. I grabbed that out of my car when I picked up the rental. Yeah, put all those miles on a rental car, Honestly,

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because I don't know how many people have jump started or actually given them the jump pack and let them jump start their car. I'm not assuming the responsibility. I just loaned them my jump pack or cables, and I don't like cooking my car up to their car with the jumper cables anyway, because that puts my car at risk case. They do something stupid, like across the cables, so anyway. Yeah, that Zobel of just being prepared just to travel

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lots of spare water at hand. What, you're going in the desert? Hey, that's a tough one, right?

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Yeah. I mean, I told you, I think I mentioned in the podcast week We bicycle a lot on trails and I always carry through for extra bottles of water. And it's, Ah, 50 50 proposition. Whether I come home with them because you know what I saw. I I don't know if you forgive me if I've told this story before, but I was riding along one day, and this is before I carried extra water, and I came across some people and people, they don't want water. We used the regular water bottle. Reasonable people don't want that because they don't know where your water came from. You know, they don't want that. But, you know, I heard do people. It was 95 degree day in Missouri, which means a 95 degree day, 85% humidity hot. They're walking down a trail, you know, a hot trail. And there were two kids and a mom, and the mom was giving the last of the water to the two kids and the kids. And what about you? Mommy and Mommy just can't smile. And some mommies don't need water. Oh, hell, no. I got you know, people are gonna be idiots and you d coldhearted among us. May say, Well, they're gonna be idiots. Let him let him suffer. But that's just not a thing that do You know what people suffer when you could fix it over a stinking bottle of water? You can get 12 abour, buck. Come on.

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So that's the only reason we carry the pre sealed bottled waters because people will actually take him

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way. I've actually used the one true when we needed him, but

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yeah, but what? It's just for me. I use the reasonable, So Okay, that one's not hard bottled water. The other thing was two sets keys. When you're going far away from everywhere, I think

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you have them separated. Don't work if you get him on the same ring. That doesn't help.

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When I picked up the rental car, it had two keys and they were both attached to the same by a small wire thing. And I've talked to the rental place about this before. so I knew they wouldn't be too annoyed with me. First thing I did get the wire cutters separate. Two keys. Salty. Got one. I got one. We didn't have to freak out. If somebody did a momentary stupid like human beings will do and locked Key's inside.

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Okay, rental car. We, as preppers, have cars that are in good repair because that's just part of being prepared. Is having your car be ready to go? But we also have kind of a thing about driving our cars many, many, many miles from home, because if your car breaks down and you have a decent car in your car breaks down 2000 miles from home or 1500 miles from home. It's a really problem because you're gonna get taken to the cleaners by whoever fixes it. If you can't fix it yourself in, A lot of modern cars are just really not that self fixable.

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When I was when we were young and poor, we had an axle fall out of a car when we were 300 miles from home, and that was not a good

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or a bad thing. It just costs more. Teoh, get the car home, and

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we actually didn't get the car home. We sold it for a song where it was

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that we sold it for scrap, actually, but so basically, when we take these big long trips, right? I mean, we put 3000 miles plus on this rental car in a week, a little over a week. I mean,

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and if it broke, it was their problem.

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Yeah, broke. It was their problem. But I'm gonna bring up something that isn't really totally propping. But I want you to be aware of this because this is a thing we formerly our insurance cover. You know, our insurance company says I would cover the cost of rental cars. Right? But there's a kicker in almost every single rental car, every single car insurance policy that I want everybody on this planet to be aware of. And I want you to be aware of this if you rent a car if you rent a car and if you have insurance from pretty much any of the major, if you have it from, uh, State farm, which is by far the biggest, um, auto insurance place on the planet or you have it from her progressive or you have it from Geico or you have it from nationwide Allied or you have from Safeco. We have our Safeco that really matters, but if you have it at any of the big ones, there may be some small ones out there, but any of the big ones. This is true if you rent a car and you use your insurance for your car on the rental, which they say you can. Let's say you rented on a credit card and that covers everything that isn't covered by your personal insurance. So you think you're safe with one exception, and this is coming back to bite people big time. The exception is if you total a car you get. But if you hit a deer and damage the car okay, in that car is repaired by your insurance. There it. When that car is sold, that car is sold with an accident on its record. The difference between what that car should bring with a clean accident report and what that car does spring because it hasn't acted, it will be several $1000 several $1000 depending on how nice the car is. It could be up to $10,000 difference. Seriously, that's on you and your insurance, and your credit card does not cover that.

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And some insurance also doesn't cover a loss of use while they're fixing the car. And a

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lot of insurance doesn't cover a lot.

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You've got no control over how fast they fix the car. Yeah, maybe you pay full price for every day. They have

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to pay for the going rate for that car Every single day. It's out of commission. Just keep that in mind when you rent a car.

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The damaged liability from the rental car place covers all that stuff. It's ridiculously expenses, a rip off. But it's a vacation, and we didn't want to worry. So here we are. Rental cars can go anywhere, right? So nothing more

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indestructible in a rental car with a damage waiver on it.

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So we're going wherever we're going and we're having, you know, Bison crossed the road in front of us and things like that. Okay, well, if one of those beasts decided to jump out and hit the car, well, it's not our worry.

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No, really. I mean, it's so normally you know, it's It's expensive and it's stupid and it's a rip off, because if you're a good driver, you're not gonna hit anything. Probably, I believe some of those trees were turning.

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They are. It's up to me. They always start to turn this time of year.

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It's weird, August. So we're having

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a weird August, strangely cool and comfortable. Very

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cool. Anyway, So Justin Justin aside but be prepared for if you rent a car that way, that's just some advice.

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So there we are in the middle of Big Sky country out in Nebraska. The eclipse out there, prime. Ladies and gentlemen, Prime! It was a thing of beauty.

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Oh, yeah, I'll post a picture to on the the Eclipse story that went on the website Sunday. You know when you put this on, but it won't be before I put the Eclipse picture with an eclipse way. I have a really nice list of of things a guy learned during the eclipse, prepping things. I took that to a lot of Eclipse pictures, so

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but I had an addendum to that list that the nice list that the other jet prepared and we've got up on the three B y website. Did you have an agenda? I have an addendum because we were out middle of nowhere in Nebraska, and as soon as the eclipse was over, we pack up. We start heading for home in Missouri, and right after we get on the interstate, pretty soon it starts to clog up and slow down and the interstate starting to run out 35 miles. Now we're still 80 miles from Lincoln, and Lincoln is still west of Omaha. And we knew the interstate. We're going to be people clogged that far. Everybody who migrated to the path of totality to see the eclipse in the area. Ah, lot of them were gonna want to get back to Omaha to get back where they were going.

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A lot of Des Moines, Twin Cities, even Chicago were, You know,

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given that there is a star party out where we were every year, it's likely that other astronomers knew the place and knew these guys were good and came to Omaha and came out. But at any rate, we were looking at more than 100 miles of congested, slow, potentially stopped traffic. So we pulled out our old fashioned paper map. You

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should see our map map pilot. Great. Not

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I brought a brick of maps.

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No, not only do we have the nice state issued current, we try to pick him up as we go current road maps. But we also have I think ours are the Rand McNally brand. The quick fold maps, the ones that are laminated. Oh, there's nothing better for a prepper to own than laminated quick fold maps.

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They're not detailed enough to show every little tiny side road, but they are good general navigation aids, and they don't ruin when they get wet and they're easy to pull out. And you don't block drivers vision Finland with a map in front of his face. It's don't

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drive the driver not spending 10 minutes folding the thing back up. Just need it again. So, yeah, we're like, she pulls out the map and, uh

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hey, look this side road in five miles

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outside road, where does it go while it goes down here and then goes down to 1 36 1 36 That goes through home. Well, not exactly home, but pretty

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darn close, as close as any room that comes down

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36 runs across north Missouri and we're north Missouri, 1 36 roads across north Missouri. Like if we get on 1 36 worst case scenario, I can get home. So let's try 1 36 Let's see if it's clean, absolutely clean.

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A GPS would never have routed us that way because it's a 55 mile per hour roads instead of interstate speed Rose. It wasn't actually many miles out of our way, and it wasn't actually anything something like that.

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So we're still going to East. We're still going south,

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but the interstate was doing 35 or 40 miles an hour. When we got off, it were, and we had no traffic on the

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there were going 60. We're going the speed limit the whole way. Yeah, I admit I am one of those annoying right? She is, too. Were those ignoring annoying drivers that actually drive the speed limit? Sorry, we wear our seat belts because you know why? Because we're preppers and we realize the most common thing that's going to kill you, not of natural causes is an auto accident, and you're much more likely to survive an auto action if you're wearing your seat belt and driving the speed limit

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that we probably would have died in one previous accident if we hadn't both been wearing our seat belts, the entire front of carving up in our faces.

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We're living because of our seat belts.

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So that's motivation

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about Turtle needs to get off the road. I almost got it.

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At least he's not a pancake tortoise today.

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He was a little one, So yeah, I don't think we're gonna make it to your list. We're gonna have toe put this on pause. I think that's the second part of it, because it's gonna end up being a little longer than I thought.

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Thea, I could throw in one more quick one here.

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Okay? We're about ready to get towards the farmer's market.

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If you wear eyeglasses to things spares and repair kit that has the little tiny screws and a little tiny screwdrivers because that fixes the most common problem with eyeglasses. If something catastrophically bad happens, you got a spare pair between those two things. If you really need your glasses to see reasonably well and some of us do, um, the eyeglass repair kits take up about to square inches and are well worth it. It saved a lot of hassle and annoyance. And trying to fit glasses together with duct tape never works out well. Wonderful. This duct tape is very much worth the space.

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They've got donkeys and horses together. I wonder what they're trying to do. Okay, Next thing about glasses. Now, we do not have any sponsors on our show. Nobody sponsors us at all way. Don't roll that way. I eventually put a put an Amazon links that if you want to support the show, you can just click on it and buy your stuff from Amazon through us. It didn't cost you a dime. Um, I'll get that set up one of these days. We're not. We don't do ads were not going to do ads. We're just That's not what we do. We're not, add people. Okay, Way

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don't want you wonder And whether you were just trying to sell you something again because we're not trying to sell your dang thing.

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No, we don't want to owe you anything. So when I say spare glasses to us equals as any optical

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e and n i dot com

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Zinni Optical is we buy all of our glasses there. Now we have to get a prescription from a local source,

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including a distance between your eyes

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is called an O D sock

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Euler distance. What

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they do is they do your everybody should get on eye exam every year. I've got a got a good friend who didn't has late stage glaucoma, which was not caught early, and it's making it very difficult for him to manage. He's probably gonna lose his eyesight, a coworker of mine. We just put in a 34 inch screen and his desk so he could read his computer, but he didn't get his eyes examined, so everybody needs to get their eyes examined. It's painless. It's not that expensive. You just It's something everybody needs to do, Okay, But you get your eyes examined and what they do when you get done with the examination is you have a prescription. That is your medical information. You are legally allowed to just say I need a copy of that and they have to give it to you.

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They often resist because they'd rather sell you their pair of glasses for $300

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and they know what? You don't know what you're doing, but I got it out for you. I've got it out for you. Um, if you're a non confrontational person and you're not even lying, probably. Uh, so they sit you down and they measure the whip of your eyeballs culture o d. There's other things that might be

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the distance between one center of one eye in the center of the other.

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Yeah, they measure that that is not considered part of your prescription, so they do not have to give you that. But you need your O d to, um,

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order glasses online

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glasses because it's very important if you don't get your only right now as any will send you a little OD gage that you can put in front of your eyes and have somebody measured them. It's pretty crude, but it does work. I tried it with a friend of mine who she wanted to get her glasses. Okay, a co worker and, uh, we tried it with her, and she was very pleased with. And she's a picky person, but it's very clear it is better to get that from your eye, doctor. But here's a great way to get that where they do not feel like you're They don't feel threatened because they're threatened by people going to Xeni because it costs money and course they're trying to make a living. So one thing you can do to get that o d measurement from them, you say, Hey, look, I'm considering going snorkeling or scuba diving, and I want to get a prescription mask made, but I need that measurement for this mask. No optical place on the planet. Does this? Yeah.

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How did we discover this by accidentally actually needed prescription masks made,

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but no optician on the planet offer scuba mask. You have to go to a scuba shop and they go Oh, yeah, I can do that because that's not a threat to them. Because you're not taking a product now, whether you actually do get yourself a mask. And if you do diver's snorkel, I highly recommend you. Do you just not expensive?

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Very much improves the

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very much improved experience very, very much we've got. If we found we'd carry spare prescription masks because I may just totally ruins the the experience to not have a prescription mask, it's still stealing. Okay, But it's not really what you want, but that's a non threatening ways to say, Hey, we may. We may be diving one of these days, because who knows? You may it could happen, right? Heck, you could

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even use them in the

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pool. It could happen, you know, fighting

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the pool on that blind.

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You're maybe not being entirely, um, high percentage. Let's put it that way. But you're not actually lying. I try not to try not to lie. Except for when I really want to do or or I'm from Missouri, and we like to do stretchers. It's a very pretty word. Rock doves could be very pretty. Um, so stretchers aren't lies. Stretchers, structures, those air. Just recreational. Yeah. Okay, so we're getting ready to go into the farmer's market. And so we're gonna take a little break from all we're gonna put the big machine on pause and we'll be back. You will notice we're gone. Probably suffer. If we hadn't done this big buildup, you probably wouldn't have noticed. We're gone. So we shall talk to you on the other side of picking up some zucchini, and we are back, even though you really didn't know this was being gone.

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Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back to the

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show. The big show. This show of record we are out amongst the, uh

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I got in this creature using

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his creatures because we're staying and we're near anywhere. We're on the way. We're about 10 miles out or so from the place. So hit it.

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One of my trips this summer was with a friend of mine who brought along her 12 weeks old standard poodle Poppy.

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We'll hear more. You

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have doc shows up in some of my posts because I picture brain. You might say for some ideas since unlike me, she is an actual position and a board certified psychiatrist and all sorts of cool things. But anyway, we were went out hiking together and we brought a puppy. And that got me to thinking about prepping for pets, prepping

spk_0:   27:45
for puppy Spence pets in general. Yeah. To be fair, we do not currently have a pet. We're not home very enoughto Keep a dog. Cats are not of interest to us.

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Then we happen to be between fish between the

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fish. At the moment, we are considering somewhat loosely within the next year. A Russian tortoise. Or

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but that will not be much of a prepping problem, because toward us, they don't make noise. That's one of the things that constrained our movements. Is puppies tend to become unhappy when left alone in strange places, and this particular dog wasn't loud, but lots of pets are allowed,

spk_0:   28:25
but just particularly I was pretty young, too. I mean, she was a puppy, Bobby.

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Yeah, but some dogs never get over that. If you live with one of them, you know this, but you might as well keep this in mind when you're considering your plans. It's very difficult to leave an animal like that and not attract a whole lot of attention to where the animal in your stuff is. Even if you're only gone for a few minutes, it's hard to explain that to a dog before you go in ways they're gonna understand.

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And that's can be a real problem.

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And when they feel threatened, they bark and try and defend their territory, so you can't trust them to be quiet when you want. One of the logical and reasonable thing is for them to be quiet. That's kind of not the groove. So you keep that in mind when your plan now Doc being a smart lady, actually took the dog for plenty of practice rides in the car before she tried to take off on a big, long road trip with the dog.

spk_0:   29:21
She drifts for several 100 miles with a 16 week old puppy. Good luck with that girl.

spk_1:   29:28
That was actually fine. But the first tried with the dog was not fine. The first ride with the dog had the dog puke ing a few times. The second ride with the dog had the dog puke ing a little bit. She got some medication before she tried the third ride with the dog, but by then the dog was over. The motion sickness thing, which is one of the points I wanted to bring up custom, have never

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actually ridden with Doc. I don't know if that was the dog's problem or if she drives like

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a

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maniac. I don't know. Knowing the blowing the woman. She

spk_1:   29:58
did not drive us off a single mountain despite being on roads that gave her every opportunity to do that.

spk_0:   30:05
Okay, I know the woman. She could be adventurous. Oh, look, there's a curved nail it.

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No, As I said, she's not stupid. But it was a good thing that she had accustomed the dog to both traveling in the car and understanding where the dog was supposed to be in the car. So the dog wasn't trying to crawl up into her lap when it got lonely and she was trying to drive and things like that. So a custom ing the animal to car travel if car travel is part of your plans, will reduce your stress level enormously if you have ever have to execute those bug out plans.

spk_0:   30:47
You know, a lot of people we call every animal pretty much that any of us have as pets is that we recall the boys. Me Mammy's got the boys paranoid. Prepper has the Jersey boys, and if you haven't read his Jersey Boys piece on the on the site, you should look up Jersey boys good. It's hilarious. Yeah, there's some killer animal where, until you would, but yeah, it's something that people people who plan to stay in place in a, um, S H T f. I always get the letters wrong. Little dyslexic situation need to realize that part of what they need to have it, you need to have, like, discipline so that you're not the only house lit up at night. But you also need to have noise discipline. And the question becomes, Are your dog's going to be a problem, And if they are, what are you going to do about?

spk_1:   31:56
And if you want to talk in and not be noticed, do you have to take this dog out and walk around with it a couple times a day?

spk_0:   32:02
Were little poop on the floor one of the other, you know, because puppy pads you can run out of them real quick. And, uh, the question becomes, you know, if you're if you're not in a in a city situation, if you live out in the country, it's no big deal. But if you have somebody tryingto trying to nose around your house, let's say, for example, you have several people nosing around your house to see you know, if they could maybe liberate some of your stuff. You know, one if you have a yappy dogs, well, you're gonna know that somebody's out there, so that's a good thing the bad side of it is that they're going to know that somebody's in there. Bad organ. It depends. It depends on how bad the situation is. Whatever you think is fine, just keep it in mind. That's all we're saying. It's just something to keep in mind.

spk_1:   32:52
And if your pet tens get motion sick in the car, get the motion sick meds before as part of your props. So you've got some on hand, right? And it does not wanna be bugging out with a dog puke in all of your car.

spk_0:   33:04
You got to realize what it's like. I mean, most people who have dogs realize that it's a lot harder to travel with an animal that is traveling without an animal. Please. The car guy wasn't paying the slightest bit of attention on this road, which is not a good road driving down the road, talking all the phone with one hand and waving the other one around, and nothing actually on the steering wheel at the moment. People are nuts anyway, so keep in mind, keep in mind. You know other pets are not that big of a deal, but if you have beloved cats. Traveling with a cat is just not fun. What are you going to do? Are you gonna really lug a cat around with you? Is this really? I mean, you're going to take a pet carrier and lug a cat around with you?

spk_1:   34:02
If so, get cat used to it. Absolutely. It's gonna be stressful enough without that

spk_0:   34:07
job. Multiple cats. Well, I hope they like each other in the pet carrier because, you know, that's what you're gonna be talking about.

spk_1:   34:15
If you've got this idea that you will set them free and they will make their own way in the wild, get the heck over it. No, don't know howto

spk_0:   34:21
they don't know how they're not unless they're, unless that's part of their everyday routine. You know, if you got a calf that's a calf milking on a on its mom had saw it of a calf. Um, if you got a cat that is like an outdoor type cat, it will be fine. Okay,

spk_1:   34:47
Well, maybe it's a lot of them don't know how to hunt. Very well. Anyway,

spk_0:   34:51
they do in our town because we're rural folks. So, you know, we know what a barn cat is. You know, if you had a barn cat bark, he'll be fine. You mean feed? Barn gets, they take care of themselves.

spk_1:   35:05
I grew up somewhere just outside of a major city, and we were always having poor, starving, desperate animals come to the door because somebody had clearly kicked him out in the country because they will make their way in the wild. Instead, they were starving to death and desperate, and we couldn't adopt very many of them. One or two of them stayed, but most of them had to go to the shelter because we were unwilling to let him just starve to death. And we couldn't keep everyone that came by. So that's not a plan.

spk_0:   35:36
There's a group of people that in the past we have supported. It's a group of it's a rescue group for the Florida Everglades because people take their Miami take there dogs. They don't want any more out to the Everglades. For some godawful reason. Everglades looks

spk_1:   35:57
wild. Well, yeah, it's full of interrogators.

spk_0:   35:59
Yeah, it's really bye. It's right next to Miami, so we'll take him out to the Everglades. There's nothing for your pets who have pets. Food is the dinner bowl for these people. For these pants, food is the dinner bowl. And there are no dinner bowls out in the Everglades. Okay?

spk_1:   36:18
And there's not many small mammals for them to catch and eat because the alligators are eating them.

spk_0:   36:23
The mosquitoes out there, another kind of class. Four things. Oh, you don't know Black flies. So you've seen Everglades black lies? Trust me, we've seen Everglades blessed, uh, flies.

spk_1:   36:38
We fled the field of battle

spk_0:   36:39
were quite yet we fled

spk_1:   36:41
the field of

spk_0:   36:41
battle. It was It was a what was it wasn't a tactical retreat. It was a full on route of us running back to the vehicle to get these things off of us. What? The skeeters weren't that bad when we were there, But the flies Who?

spk_1:   37:01
That's partly where I learned always to take insect repellent on vacation.

spk_0:   37:05
Yeah, well, yeah, he ever played, you know, I'm we went in the dry time of year, and it don't matter if those flies or bowl ray cious.

spk_1:   37:15
Now, I'm assuming that you've got the brain cells that even planned for feeding your pet. But medication is something you need to think of, especially since when you're traveling with an animal to get exposed to a whole lot more parasites and communicable diseases from other members of their species than they normally do at home. And animals in general have a lot more problem with parasite transmission than people do because they walk around barefoot, stepping on each other's poop a lot, and that's a great way to get infected with somebody else's diseases.

spk_0:   37:53
So bottom bottom, Morgan, Bottom line here, if you have, if you have a pet that never leaves the house, you better plan on that pet never leaving the house or or gonna

spk_1:   38:04
figure out and

spk_0:   38:05
be miserable. So oh, yeah, oversize load he whoa, whoa

spk_1:   38:13
e. It

spk_0:   38:14
wasn't even an oversized load in the guy was driving on the road.

spk_1:   38:17
Oh, yeah, it's a little narrow

spk_0:   38:19
with rode out to the place, I'm telling you, this place is out in the middle of nowhere, and this road is not not commuter friendly to see the leases a wind, the narrow, barely paved wrote.

spk_1:   38:38
While we're not moving out here as long as I have my day job,

spk_0:   38:41
yeah, because there's no Well, for one thing, if the water's high, we're not getting out. So there that I mean, we can't There is one route that you could get out of here if the water is high. But it's round the bend. It's around the horn to get there. Okay, so you got anything else for this episode?

spk_1:   39:06
Think about your pets because you love him and you don't want to mistreat him. But they are not seamlessly easy and comfortable to travel with. Okay, for them to

spk_0:   39:17
one other thing. If you are looking for a place to get away from it all, but you still want to have the smallest semblance of civilizations somewhere nearby, I'd like to recommend the Sand Hills area of Nebraska Place. Lovely place.

spk_1:   39:40
Big Reservoir, too, if you like. Now. Boating and fishing.

spk_0:   39:44
Ample Clearwater. Close to the surface. Uh, you're not gonna grow a lot of a lot of gardens there. He's not unless you bring in the dirt because it's just they got the sand hills because it's the sand hills.

spk_1:   40:00
Didn't see a single farmers market the entire time we're out.

spk_0:   40:03
There are three or four small communities there that you could do the in town shelter thing that would be like a Milt happen, uh, would be a fan of. And so if you wanted to do that and there's also there's also plenty of places that are way off the off, the everything so plenty of water. It does get cold in the winter. It does not plenty of fuel, and it, but it isn't is not a place for those who love the city lights. But it's a place. If you were looking for a place to go, that you want to get away from it all. CHERRY County, Nebraska That's my gift to you. If you're not well, then stay with

spk_1:   40:58
me.

spk_0:   40:58
Sure Can Nebraska They do get a lot of big, actually get a lot of tourists there because of the Iaw or a river is a great float river. Not that we've had a great experience in it, but a lot of people have.

spk_1:   41:12
Don't try it in a drought year. Look, don't try to

spk_0:   41:13
the drought year in a canoe where one person weighs a lot more than the other person in the case. It's

spk_1:   41:21
I was so far above the water

spk_0:   41:24
and I was hitting every rack with my two kids sitting on aluminum anyway. Not a good experience. So be blessed

spk_1:   41:40
and spice signing off.

spk_0:   41:45
Spicy it spicy What

spk_1:   41:48
you see out, You really are salty,

spk_0:   41:51
okay? Spicy and salty And whoever I am out by.