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Hello, everybody.

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Hello, everybody. Good day.

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This is Spice.

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This is salty. Trying very hard not to get into my usual day night confusion.

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And this is the beans, bullets, bandages and you Website. But guest,

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Welcome to the show. The big show. The show of record for the three B y website. And I know that's an important thing. That's a quintessential thing in your life. This is a show of record. We're we are the voices 03 b y.

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So is it like a vinyl record where were horribly outdated? Intend to warp if you leave us in the heat? Probably Whose fidelity overtime? Who's

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welcome to the show? You way both got a few scratches. You got it, man, You gotta admit, welcome to the show. We're here to talk to you today about one of our favorite topics and one that we just don't hear anything about in the prepper world or very little about in the world beyond the classroom. But it's critically uber super mega ultra. You promised Jim GNC, Hannah mega old, Super expanded large important. Now that buildup should tell you how important we think this is. We're gonna talk again and we're gonna keep talking about one thing that you just have to pay attention to. In our opinion, bias and biased. It doesn't necessarily mean what people a lot of people think it means today we're gonna we're gonna just look at one type of bias and how it really affects your life, our life prepping what we you. And in understanding why it is that we do what we do at three b y. So take it away, Spice. She's the bias meister.

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If I wanted to go the click bait route, which I don't, I would have titled this something like secrets that the politicians and salesmen don't want you to know because that's the reason you don't hear it. Talked about a whole lot. It's a part of Ah NIU Siri's I've been working on. It's called a prepper Psych 101 It's not like I'm a professional psychologist or something. It's like I'm somebody who's been reading about it as a topic of interest for a few decades now, and I read it from a evidence based viewpoint, which means I read about something and it sounds cool, and then I go check out the research to see if it actually holds water before I go sharing information about it. So what I'm doing is I'm pulling out little of bits of information that I found really interesting or important about the way human minds tend to work. This is not everybody's this way. This is This is how a lot of minds will tend to work here is probably has thes tendencies. You might wanna watch out for it and see if it's going that way. Mine

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works this way, and I have to watch out because this is this is something that affects me a lot because mine runs this way. But I know what it is. So I have to console. Is that what stop?

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Oh, yeah. I'm not a me

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Stop! Wait a minute. What's the deal? Does my teary hold water with my best Joe Pesci? Does the defense's theory hold wanna it? She'll say no to defense is warned. Mirza. Torment

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until chuckle when she

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was smoking hot.

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I gotta admit, I don't know.

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Uh, she

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trust you on that. And

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she's a girl. Okay? She's a chick. Excuse me? That was very Texas. I'm sorry. I apologize. but

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if he meant it in a bad way, I'd be offended. But doesn't some nun

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she? But Joe Pesci was very

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pious. My mind works this way, too. But if you know the tendencies there, you're a lot more likely to detect it when it happens. And if you decide it's appropriate, you roll with it because sometimes it's These things were built into our brains because they do work well sometimes. And if you decide it's not appropriate than you've caught it and can do something about it instead of just being a dog who's run by his sense of smell and look, squirrel, you know?

spk_0:   4:34
Okay, now I am a person who is best served mentally by examples. Throw me an example what you're talking about.

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Okay, the bias that got me thinking about doing this podcast today and what I'm gonna be writing up soon is on the availability bias and what got me thinking about the availability by us. Okay, let's tell you what it is. First, the availability bias is when your decision making realize most heavily on information that is most easily available and top of mind instead of necessarily going to the factors that should be most important in making that decision. And where I saw it was, it's on article yesterday. This is soon after that evil scumbag in Las Vegas shot a whole bunch of people, and the articles were on the bump stocks disappearing from the gun stores because everybody's running out to get their bump stocks because they're afraid they're gonna be banned. And my thought was okay. If all of these people really thought they needed a bump stock, why didn't they already have one? And if they don't think they need a bump stock, I personally don't need a bump stock ever being less accurate so I can throw more, let around and run out of bullets faster. Sounds like a only something an evil scumbag would. You know, I'm not an evil scumbag. I don't think I need that. But anyway, if you do think you need a bump stock, you should already have one and not be running out. Just because you heard the news today and if you didn't think you needed a bump stock three days ago or a week ago, then you still don't need one now. And the only reason you're running out to buy one is because you're being run by the availability by us.

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Right now, there's a big difference. It is a great example because there's a big difference between this and say if the reaction was too Oh, I think I'm way short on the amount of ammunition that I need for the guns that I already own and it looks like ammunitions going to be a run on it. I need to just go out and get what I need now. But this is for guns you already own. This is a perfectly legitimate, reasonable thing. Toe own ammunition for the guns you own.

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Yeah, that's that Reviewing the future. That

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may still be a panic reaction. Okay, that may still not be a wise thing to do, depending on your situation. I don't know. I'm just throwing this out here is an example.

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If you're eating around for the next month because you felt a need to over by a bunch of bullets, that great decision

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or if you just you know Oh man, I only have four p mags for my for my a a r. And I really want to have 10 And they may. They may do something about these normal capacity magazines of 30. Let me let me try and pass a law. So maybe I really should go ahead and buckle down and get those. That's reasonable thing. What we're talking about is a bump stock, and there's no reasonable reason to own one of these things. It's just hasn't aside. And as somebody who's a firearms person, bump stocks are good for two things. One wasting a lot of them ammunition in having fun. I mean this fund a day, wasting a lot of ammunition, throwing it down range inaccurately. If

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you want to set up 25 gallon buckets of water down there and make them all explode in a flurry of ice crystals on a cold day, you know?

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Yeah, that's what you can do that or I guess apparently they're good for just hosing down massive crowds where nothing can miss. Yeah,

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evil scumbag,

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scumbag. I don't want to go there. It was guys like that. I mean, but, you know, if you start getting these kind of thoughts, go see counseling. Seriously? Go do something about it. Don't be that guy, so I mean, you know, and we're not going. That's enough said about that. But

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yeah, discouraging topic. I could do nothing about it. I try and leave aside discouraging topics. I can do nothing about

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it because there isn't

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but the bump stock thing. I can't imagine that most of the people who are running out and buying one or doing so because it suddenly occurred to them that they desperately needed one and didn't have one they had. I actually do have a need and just hadn't thought of it till now. No, I suspect most of her just being run by the Avila availability bias. It's at the top of their brain. This is a thing, and then they're going, Oh, I might be denied. Well, okay, I've never wanted one before, particularly, but now they are talking about maybe thinking that I might not be able to get one in the future. I have my must have one, because because it's a top of my mind and I don't want to be denied. It's making a decision based on information that's easily available rather than what should be important to the buying decision.

spk_0:   9:57
The availability bias also dovetails very nicely. One other type of bias that I want to talk about every time I talk about bias because to me it is the single. Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm biased. But to me it is the single most important bias when it comes to the preparedness community. And it is just so critical that everybody in the community understands what this biases, how it works and how it affects preppers. And she does run going with us, don't you?

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Ah, there are a couple things that might be. So go right ahead and tell me your choice.

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You know You know what it is? Come on. Think about what?

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Oh, yeah, I know what confirmation biases. That is the inherent human tendency to want to be right, basically. So when you are presented with sources of information and on the surface of it, they don't seem to different quality, you will naturally pay more attention to and put more weight on the sources that agree with your preconceptions coming in. And when you look for information, you will tend to read sources that confirm you,

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right? So a lot of times will happen in the prepper community and any communities adjust properties

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on the

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whole community. Everybody, even even the mainstream

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scientists have a big problem with this.

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Yeah, even the mainstream. It doesn't matter, which is it'll be the well. I only like to read news from X because they agree with me

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and the people don't often even recognize. That's why they just think those people are more reasonable. I think those people are making more sense. They think those people are not lying to him. Right? That's why Do you think they're making sense? Because you already grew them. Yeah.

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Yes, that's what s So what? What happens is you. If you envelope yourself to only seeking out and reading sources that you like and that you agree with, you get into a feedback loop and you get all twisted up in your own string. You lose focus on the big picture and that'll get you killed. You can't do that. You can't lose focus of them. Keep your beliefs. Keep your keep your your mental strength inside. Keep everything that you are, but realize that you must understand both sides. Three sides for our many sides are you must at least know what they're talking about and realize that they're not just a bunch of nuts. Even though you don't agree with him, there's logic behind what they're saying. In many cases now, you may not agree with with their view. Certainly not. I mean, there's a lot of people like that. I just can't imagine they. But it's important to understand why they think what they do because that directly affects you.

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This, by the way, does not mean you load yourself up with mental ammunition on all the ways I think these people are gonna be wrong. And then you go to the most far side of the spectrum possible. Yeah, and you laugh to yourself a CZ. You read all of their arguments that you are already prepared to demolish. You're just taken down strawman. At that point, if you really want to see why the other people might be thinking the way they think, then you got to go to someplace that has an alternative opinion but isn't a bunch of all the way on the fringe, just trying to inflame the situation by throwing out a bunch of junk. There's some of that on each end of the spectrum you don't go there. You go to the people who are of a different opinion. But they are at least attempting to be reasonable human beings and see what they've got to say and and really consider it.

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You seek out the information doesn't go elegant. You seek out the information from the various sources of data, not the comments section.

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Oh yeah, there's some sources that are just about interpreting the news for you. And there's others that actually put out information,

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right? Don't This is This is what I think is one of the ways you want. You can get away from being caught up in the feedback loop of the confirmation bias is go to the source goto. What the the person's actually saying. Read the study, read the survey, realize who paid for the survey, understand where it was done. Don't just read the headline and assume because that's what you already think, then they're agreeing with it could be completely different. And frankly, keep this in mind. The newspaper, the newspapers, the media websites with advertising on them bay have an agenda to pushing that a genius gets you to click that link so they get money.

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And if they play to your confirmation bias, they get more clicks. They get more money and they do it on purpose.

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Everybody knows, or click bait. Every everybody knows that, right? But don't click on the Clickbait. Don't fall for it

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A lot of times. Thea the bias comes in in the interpretation, not the data. I've got a nice example of that one for toss in here because I was looking at it yesterday and I saw a headline about Harvard. Researchers discover that not eating breakfast leads to heart attacks, and I'm like, I really don't think so. So I want to see where they got that and they start talking about this study and they find this correlation. And then the guy who's writing the article starts going on about how you should make sure you eat breakfast so you don't have heart attacks. Oh, that's a great reason to be able to stop at Starbucks. On the woodwork. Baba blah, blah, blah, blah, read down, read down, read down. And then he kind of mentions in one little sentence that the scientists really did stress that this doesn't mean that not eating breakfast is what causes heart attacks. They just mean there's a cluster of behaviors and not eating breakfast is one of them. Oh, so you mean the whole rest of the article? You were just entirely misinterpreting what they said on purpose because it sounded like more fun. Now we understand.

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More fun equals more clicks

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for fun to them. More fun to the other people who want an excuse to stop at Starbucks. There we go.

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You know, to me, this is one thing that not understanding what confirmation bias is means that you're playing into the hands of the people who want to too manipulative. Piil ate you

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not paying attention so that you are not run by your own confirmation bias. You have one. Assuming you're a human being, you've got a confirmation bias. We all do.

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I do. I certainly do. I know. I know what a lot of mine are. You

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just gotta watch out for it so it doesn't run you.

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I just pick an example. Say, I were a fan of Hu World Siris Cubs last year. I'm not a Cubs fan, but let's say I waas okay, and when I get my Cubs information. I always go to the same place, right? And I never do anything but get in my information from from anybody in the Who writes the articles and posts on the comment section, I only will listen to the people who agree with me. Well, I I could go on and on about confirmation bias, but my takeaway is. And what We will come back to this over again because my take away from this is if you allow yourself to fall for fall for what? Their salad, you become their tool. And what does that make you? That makes you a tool? It makes me too. I don't like being a tool. I don't like anybody is tool? I am not a wrench. I am not a screwdriver. Okay? I'm not a cog in your machine. And I don't want you to be a cog in anybody else's machine. Don't you, Chicago? My machine. I don't have a machine. I got nothing to so you you know, and the only people who could speak the truth or people who have nothing to sell because I'm not asking you to follow any movement. Please pay attention to we don't

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have an agenda. Basi, besides thinking it's a better idea to live in a world where people are prepared to take care of themselves, where people are self sufficient, where people are prepared to take care of their community and where people aren't being manipulated by others for the profit of the others.

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Right? And the one thing we're gonna I'd like to leave you with is the idea. But when you hear something, whatever it is, it doesn't matter in the media, and it's not hard news. Okay, hard news like Sonny a couple weeks ago in mid Missouri, where there was a bus accident, a school bus and the teacher was tragically killed. Okay, that's hard news. There's really no no spin to that. There's no that's it is what it is. But when you hear stuff like, um, something on the national lose where some idiot says something else and that there's a lot of back and forth like, I just don't don't concentrate on what they're saying. Just stop for a minute and say, OK, what agendas are being pushed here? What are the people who are pushing the buttons trying to get across what is there. What is their game on both sides, You need to understand, are both sides what their game is. If you're gonna pay attention to that stuff, I recommend not even paying attention to this stuff in the longest large since politicians on the national scale are certainly people who understand bias

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and manipulate by us

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howto minute parties. Everybody on all sides are very, very good at it.

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They hire psychologists whose job is to do nothing but tell them how to more effectively push people's buttons.

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And I guarantee you, there are outside forces outside the government who are pushing the same buttons. And we all know this. This is a political. We all know this, and it's on all sides. They're pushing the same buttons.

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It's for money and power, one way or another every time,

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trying to make people Americans their tools. So just don't be a tool. I don't want to happen. That's all I got to say on that.

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I got nothing better than that, other than be well,

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be well and we'll catch the next podcast, which is gonna be about way. Don't know yet, so well, I guess we'll find out. Be well and everybody. One last thing. If you like what you hear, subscribe to our podcast. If you can, and you like what you hear. Please go on to like iTunes and leave a review for us. There's nothing you can do to help the show financially. You will need your money. We're not rich, but we don't. We

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and just go out there and have have yourself a great day. All right, we plan to Ta ta for now.