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Hello, everybody.

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Hello, everybody. And welcome to the show The Big show. The show of record The three B. Y podcasts. The biggest survival broadcast show we put out based

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one you'll find on beans, bullets, bandages and you dot com.

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I'll tell you what. The spice. I'm so hungry. I'm really hungry. I mean, I am hungry, and we need to We need to You know what I'm hungry for? We haven't had a while.

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What? Relax. Here,

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let's eat an elephant.

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Oh, that sounds like quite the job. We're gonna manage that.

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I don't know. How do you do? You know, why

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don't we just go for it? One bite at a time,

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but at the time, All right. Well, how would a Prepper Eater prepping off

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wouldn't buy to the time? Here's the deal to be prepared. You're trying to be a self reliant as possible, given all the things that life may bring. And if that sounds like a basically never ending task, that's because to be fully prepared, a cz kind of an impossibility. So it would be a never ending task. But wait, that does not mean prepping is useless because everything you do brings you better prepared and able to deal with more, then the things you didn't get around to doing so, even though it's really daunting to think about all the things the proper could do it. If you're new to the motivation you might call it, Hobby is not what I call it obsession. I wouldn't go there. E wouldn't go there either. But that part of life, that's how I'd put it. If you're new to embracing this responsibility, there we are. Then you start looking at all the information out there, and it seems like it's an impossible amount to get done, especially given your finances and your other constraints and

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the, you know, family situation where you're you may believe this, but maybe your spouse isn't on board. Maybe your parents think you're nuts. People don't want to talk about it. People are in denial.

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Maybe you don't have a lot of storage space.

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Maybe you live in an apartment in the city, and you know, that's a really, really big challenge. So, you know, and maybe you're maybe you're young. Maybe you're just in your teens and you you don't really have the freedom to do it. Or maybe you're You know, there's all kinds of situations, and I know a lot of people when they first stop and contemplate something like a major, huge krumping disaster, like a grid down situation. You know, the temptation is just to throw up your hands and say, I can't. That's just too big of a too big of an elephant for me to eat one bite at a time

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Because you don't know for one thing, what crisis is gonna be, their life always brings crises. There's gonna be something

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every life has. Stuff hits the fan moments, whether their national moment, regional moment or just your personal wife.

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Yeah, wheels hit a slick spot on the road. Moment is sometimes. Yeah,

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there's black ice out there everywhere. You don't often see it until it's too late. You've slipped.

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So there's a lot of things you can do that will help you in a lot of situations. Even though none of us will ever be fully prepped for what life brings spoiler, we're not gonna get out of this one alive.

spk_1:   3:31
We do have some ideas, though. Things that have helped us and our journey of prepping, which is nowhere near complete.

spk_0:   3:40
Yeah, but everything you do brings you closer. And some of the stuff stuff we have done so far has been a real help in situations who have encountered since we started prepping.

spk_1:   3:51
Some of the stuff we have in our preps are just to get us by until we can replace them with better, because something is better than nothing. And I have all kinds of examples, but we love her good at her list. You got a list?

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Yeah, because there is a companion article to this podcast,

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but you probably got a

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decrepit elephants. Yeah, And, uh, I wrote the companion piece, so I kind of had some ideas in mind there. But that's the first main point. Even though it's never gonna be complete, it's worth doing and starting. And the way to do is just start. But not just probably jumping in randomly and buying a bunch of stuff is probably not the most efficient way to go about this.

spk_1:   4:38
Especially if some of that stuff you don't know how to use.

spk_0:   4:40
Yeah, So first deal is prioritize and try and think about What are you actually trying to prep for

spk_1:   4:48
what is most likely to be your next stuff. It's a van moment. Go by not what's the worst thing that can happen, but rather by what's most likely to happen. Because everything you do to prep for pretty much everything you do to prep for what is most likely to happen will also help you out. If the worst happens

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in many of the situation, whether we're

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not everybody, most actually. I mean, there are very few things that a basic beginning prep like having a bug out back, having a get home back, having ah certain amount of food on hand, having water on having ways to filter water. I mean, these air just pretty much every situation that comes up these air Nice tohave

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instance. Since this is name aimed at new preppers Ah, bug out bag would be Ah, you hear that train car carrying ammonia has derailed 1/2 mile from you and the winds coming your way. You got to get out. You gotta evacuate right now. What do you grab and go? That's a bug out bag,

spk_1:   6:05
right? And we're not going to go into how to put together a bug out bag In fact, we kind of avoided that on three b y. Because there's a zillion places talk about bug out bags, too Nausea?

spk_0:   6:19
Yeah, too tiresome level was what I was thinking.

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Yeah, it's not that it's not brain surgery. It's a bag full of stuff.

spk_0:   6:27
And get home bag is like, I have a bag in my car that if all else failed and I'm at work, I commute a distance toe work. If I'm at work and something bad happens, and I either can't get home that night or I have to get myself home on foot, which is gonna take me a full day of walking, Um, I am supplied to do that. That's a get home bag. So I actually would modify the idea little bit, not only but what is most likely to happen to you. That's an important consideration. But how likely is it that you'll need the prep? For example, if the power goes out when you're at home? Very likely situation. You probably want some food on hand that will be decent to eat. And if you got kids that the kid's elite that you can prep without electricity,

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you wanna have some water on. And if the power goes out because the water main stop running

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or you get a no boil order. Uh, no. Ah, boil Order. I don't drink the water order. That's what I was trying to go for. There's

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a power out

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or even with the power on, because it's actually a pain in the butt, half the boiling water to drink it. If you've got some easier way to purify water and some ready to drink water on hand, life is just a lot nicer. We had a boil order here Ah, a couple months ago, and it was nothing because we had just pulled out one of the cans water we've got sitting there and didn't even have to mess with anything beyond that. So there are perhaps that are going to be useful in a wide range of situations and that easy to prepare food, readily available on hand, is one of those props. No, there's everything from power. Goes out for 12 hours to North Korea, sets off a nuclear MP pulse right above your head. It's gonna be helpful to have that food there, so it's a very old scores very high on the priority list. Tick. Yeah, it was about the worst. Yeah, but the point is, the prop could be useful in all those situations. That's true. Which makes it a very high value prep, yes, and therefore goes high on the priority list.

spk_1:   9:02
And we were talking about priorities. A CE faras High High Likelihood versus Low Likelihood. Look, you live. Let's say we live in the Midwest. We know power out is extremely high, like it's not necessarily well, if you're prepared, it's not even an emergency. It's an annoyance. Um, power outages in the winter. We know it's gonna happen. So we have one of our, perhaps, is to have a heating system for our house. It does not require any electricity, whatever. It's not a primary heating system, but we have one, and it's not even particularly expensive. It's a prep. What else are we likely to happen? Thunderstorms. We're likely to have trees down because of storms and stuff like that. We This is the kind of things that were likely to have. There's a we live far enough away from the railroad tracks that we really shouldn't have to be evacuated from a train wreck, but we

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have hot struck's carrying ammonia. Try it. Drive down the highway two blocks from his old.

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Yeah, so you know, that's not that it

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could happen.

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It could happen. But if you live right next to some train tracks, I'd have some, you know, all of the because those trains call everything, and I just have some props for that. No. People forget about trains and how dangerous they are. S so it's just it's just a matter of if you live in the Southwest. Well, you know what? You have water. Perhaps if you live in the hurricane zone, you know, hurricanes are common. They just I may not be this year, but it's common. You know, you have to have an evacuation plan. You live on the coast evacuation plan. If you live in Hawaii, you know you're likely to have earthquakes, volcano eruptions and tsunamis all at the same time. Help the beaches beautiful. That's where you go to visit. But then you go back up the hill and let's say if you were on the Big Island, for example, and you are a serious prepper, you need to live in Kahala. You don't want to live like a lot of people do. Other side off. Well, ally, or on the side of Manila because they've erupted in the last 200 years and they're very likely to do it again.

spk_0:   11:27
Yeah, every other week they spit lot of that direction. So, well,

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to be fair to either one of those too. But no, there were people living. There were people. There were subdivisions that were, you know, south downhill from Kilauea, which has been erupting continuously for 25 years, continues it needs every day. This is just example. You know, if you live on on one of the other islands, you have to have a plan for earthquakes. You have to have a plan for tsunamis. If you live on, um, on the Big Island in the way P o valley, I just don't

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think you're really likely to Often. Yeah, some places, they're just bad places to live. The that's the other part of what you prepped for. How necessary would the prep be if the situation did occur, right. For example, salty bought me this cute little corn popper that you can pop popcorn over fire. Bought it for use out of the place. Yeah, I like it. But it's not a problem, because this approach Yeah, you're like, really? That's not a

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prep. I just bunch of corn poppers.

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Yeah, it just got originally placed on the place with perhaps when it came in, because it was winter at the time.

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I don't watch a secret mix Popcorn.

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Yeah. The point is, that's not really a prop, because it's too easy to live without it. And it not important enough to be worth prepping budget. Basically,

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however, the outdoor fireplace, Yes. So, where you going?

spk_0:   13:19
No, I was actually going with solar powered flashlights.

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Little solar flare past? Yes. Did great for almost 80 Prep? Yeah. Or non prep? Reusable with these Milan? Yeah. No, you don't have to worry about your dad gum batteries. Be it out. We need a flashlight,

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and we don't have to throw a bunch of disposable batteries in the evil in Phil's, which I'd prefer not to do.

spk_1:   13:41
Saves money, Saves time, Same effort. It's win, win, win. And the door. Three years were pretty tough too, but yeah, we bought I bought a one of the first things I did was we put in a little outdoor fireplace at the place, Um, so we can have a fire when we set out there on her porch. Have fired all that stuff, but you can cook out there. Oh,

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and you could safely build a fire in a high wind And when it's really dry, which wouldn't necessarily be true in an open fire in the middle of a prairie.

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And we're concentrating on preps. You know, the thing I would keep in mind is thes great multi use things and to me are our best. If we had to pick one coolest prepping item we own, I would think you couldn't go any further. They're looking at look hot. The Did you use Kelly? Kelly? Kelly? Yeah.

spk_0:   14:41
Kelly can be a little, uh, camping. Um, it's a little sleeve. Kind of coffee pot shaped thing. It's got a firebase. You build a tiny little fire in the firebase stick, it's got it. Yeah. Sticks, pirate homes, whatever. Tiny little burnable stuff he got. You put the can on top, but has a water sleeve. And you could put a little grill on top of that so you can cook stuff on the little grill and the The pot holds it a decent distance above the fire, but it also boils the water in the sleeve. So you've got purified water and you've got hot water to cook with and hot water for hygiene. And it's once you boil water, there's not a whole lot left in it that's gonna be harmful to you. There's a couple things that might be in there, but not much. So

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you got purification. You've got cooking. You got cleaning. You got everything all at the cost of yard trash

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for a hot cup of drink in the morning, 10 minutes after you wake up.

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So it's the kind of thing that helps you in just about any type of situation where you don't have power. So stuff like that, you know, website. When you get a multiple use product, that's something you might wanna. Yeah, you know, think about that. That helps you. That's a big chunk elephant right there.

spk_0:   16:03
Yeah. So, once you've decided, or your priorities are set a budget, because that does two things lets you live a real life without obsessing and without getting yourself into trouble in other areas because you're over concentrating on preps and neglecting the urine. Now, we are gonna live the year now anyway. I mean, let's not get so carried away with preparing for the future that we don't live and enjoy the day

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to a point

spk_0:   16:34
to a point. Yeah, but the other half of it is, if you've got a budget than the prep budget goes to preps and some stuff actually gets done, it doesn't just get put off in favor of immediate needs. Endlessly.

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I'm going to throw out another thing here. It's not really on her list, but I'm gonna throw it out there and you go take it. For what it's worth, yeah. Spice and I lived at free. We've lived up free for many years. He and I think for most people who have consumer debt, one of the best overall preps, they could do ISS get out of debt and get it all paid off. That gives you the tools that you need to really enjoy life and prep. You know, it's one of those deals where if you saddled with a lot of consumer debt, you know, you're you're really in a vulnerable. You're an

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immediate crisis that is a job.

spk_1:   17:34
You can't lose a job. You

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don't have a choice to change jobs very easily.

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It's really one of those deals where that's a good. It's a prep that nobody talks about depressed that nobody makes. But we're talking about debt. That is a big bite out of the elephant is to be out of debt. Yes, consumer that And there's many ways you could do it. You know, there's there's a guy from Tennessee who saw the radio all the time. There's other people. You could do it yourself, Whatever it is, I'm not trying to sit here and tell you this certain thing is right. But I'm telling you, when you could just say Okay, well, other than my piddly little bills, I don't have to worry about, I hope carpet, I don't have a house payment. Don't have Ah, whatever. Now we're old and it took us many years to do this, but we never got really deeply and consumer debt to start with. But, man, it's really stressful hard when you're having a try and come up with ways to pay the bills, make those payments and then think about propping it pushes the prepping back down the table a little bit. So just a thought. I'm gonna leave it at that. We'll push on.

spk_0:   18:51
I just start to accumulate stuff. Make sure you've got something to do with it. So it's going to be where you can get to it when you need it, and it's going to stay a good long term because you've got it in a good storage situation. Don't let a family of mice moving in ruin your whole food, perhaps no. And that can happen if you don't have him very well proofed. Or don't store all your preps in non watertight containers in your basement and then have a pipe break on the first floor and verve and thousands of dollars were the perhaps because they were running underneath. And

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don't put your food perhaps out in your shed, where it gets to be 100 degrees in the and it goes up to 100 degrees. It comes down to 70 degrees at night. Back up to 100. You're not, man. You won't have food for three months, let alone

spk_0:   19:45
Yeah, it degrades much fastball, legal appearance, A pair of Yeah, I see you're

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driving past a pair of all eagles, beautiful birds.

spk_0:   19:53
They're probably gonna go eat that dead dear. I just saw.

spk_1:   19:55
They probably are. Still don't realize that bald eagles are carrion eaters, but they are like to hunt to they

spk_0:   20:01
like to fish.

spk_1:   20:03
Like to fish. Little fish here, though, were in land.

spk_0:   20:06
They Fisher. Like I've seen, you know, literally.

spk_1:   20:10
Um, I like my diversionary tips. If you want to go see bald eagles, I'll tell you how to do it. Wait till you wait till January. If it's cold, it's cold. Winter of January, February You go to one of the lock and dams on the Mississippi River. You go to the south side of the lock and dam where the water's all churned up because the river will be frozen over. But the water is open south of the lock and dam, and you can see 2 to 300 eagles. I mean, there's everywhere treating

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it like a fast food joint. They just go out, snag a fish, come back to their tree, dropped the head on the fish head on your head. If you're standing underneath him, go out and get another one.

spk_1:   20:52
It's really cool. Um, so anyway, that was just my little aside.

spk_0:   20:56
Yeah. Okay. So have somewhere good to put this stuff when you got it, so it doesn't go to waste. And let's not forget the skills. Learned how to use this stuff You're getting right, so it's a value to you. We bring it up fairly often because we think that it's kind of an underserved idea in a lot of the prepping community, because nobody makes money often.

spk_1:   21:22
Yeah, a lot of people want stuff they want. They want youto buy stuff. But the stuff isn't what's going to save your life? It's what's between your ears. That's what's going to save your life, the knowledge you have. So you know you have do skull sessions. It's with skull sessions air. It's all coaching term. You have a skull practice. You sit around and think about things. You do anything you think about them if you realize what you need to work on and let's go work on it. The good news is that doesn't cost any money. Yeah, and it doesn't necessarily involve anybody else. This is something that everybody can do if they got a brain just engage it.

spk_0:   22:05
It's also test your gear because not everything lives up to the words printed on the package when you bought it, particularly sleeping bags. When they say good down to 40 degrees Fahrenheit, they mean, if you're wearing all your clothes and what you're really going for is not to die of hypothermia. They're good down to 40 degrees Fahrenheit. So they don't mean you're gonna be comfortable if you just crawl in the way you usually sleep. I felt for that one the first time. Fortunately, I had an emergency blanket when I was out to the cabin when I fell for that one of the new sleeping bag.

spk_1:   22:44
Also, another one is You know, you look at things like you see the three season tent. What that really means is the seasons are

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early summer mid something late service over midsummer,

spk_1:   22:55
late summer. This is, you know, if you want a good tent. First of all, don't get a yellow. Get a dark color once. If you have to be out in the woods, you know what we have seen. Don't get it. You know it's great when you're on Everest to have one of these expedition tents That Aaron yellow. That's fine. Nobody cares. Ah, but if you're out the woods, get something dark but yes, tense or another One of the things that were just like that way,

spk_0:   23:28
Yeah, I tried out are emergency Tent after we bought it to see if one person really could set it up. And it really was as big and sturdy as you would think from reading the package. In that case, I was pleasantly surprised. So I'm not saying all this stuff is junk. I'm just saying you don't know until you tried it. You don't want to try it for the first time when it's pouring rain and you've never seen how to set this thing up and it's cold, and the people you're with are crabby and hungry And what you just want to get out of the weather. You want to know what you're doing. We need stuff like that. Truth. That's kind of the heart of the matter, which is convenient because we're about to the end of our Dr.

spk_1:   24:13
We're about to where we're going to be, so we're driving past for the mountain. Men should be

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out there today.

spk_1:   24:23
We're gonna be

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interviewing men have pick up

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in the future because these mountain men live the old fashioned way. Like he would have actually lived in the 18 twenties thirties.

spk_0:   24:34
Those look like civil War style tense bivouac tents. They've got

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work town

spk_0:   24:40
set up there. Although they do live far, you have their pickups. Another to get here,

spk_1:   24:46
but the Yeah, so we're gonna get every one of those people one of these days. So anyway, we're going to wrap this up. Gotta wrap up. Commentary. Just wanted to

spk_0:   24:56
wish you well, Don't forget the deserted after you've had some bites. Your elephant. We've got some nice emery fudge brownies. All those which are surprisingly good.

spk_1:   25:08
Marriage, fudge, brownies.

spk_0:   25:10
Chocolate improves the quality of my life. Although,

spk_1:   25:14
frankly, here's here's an example of just one thing that I don't leave with this. I was shopping for some memories. Could be liketo update arse every year. We don't keep a whole lot of we keep a few and there aren't any to be had because of all the the hurricanes. You just you know, Puerto Rico. There's not to be at the companies were producing. You're not so even the civilian market off me by legitimate civilian ones. We don't buy the military ones that are illegal by you. Uh, you can't. You can't buy him. There's nothing to be had. So it's always better to be prepared before the scrambling after. So for spice a salty and we are out out.