spk_0:   0:01
Hey, space either. I'm gonna ask you a question. What are you doing right this minute?

spk_1:   0:08
Riding in a car.

spk_0:   0:09
Where you riding? In a car.

spk_1:   0:12
Oh, Big Fishing island.

spk_0:   0:16
Yeah. Iowa. Where the beautiful, sunny, gorgeous, beautiful state of Iowa. We're driving down the road. And what is it as we come to? What is it that you see a lot of in Iowa grain bins? Green bids. Why?

spk_1:   0:37
Because they grow a lot of grain in

spk_0:   0:39
Iowa. What do you see right over there?

spk_1:   0:43
A water tower?

spk_0:   0:44
No, it's the English covering half the sky.

spk_1:   0:47
No, those would be green. Ben's

spk_0:   0:49
great elevator. Yes. Great Elevator's multiple grain elevators. And what do you think is in the grain elevators

spk_1:   1:00
on a stretch here? I would say either error with a small amount of rap group in the bottom or grain. Okay, so

spk_0:   1:09
in your corn and the chances of it being grain are pretty high. At least some now

spk_1:   1:18
will be partly empty this time of year.

spk_0:   1:20
But can those hold a lot of grain? Lots of green, like lots and lots and lots of

spk_1:   1:25
grain? Yes. Like the houses I see for the people in this town would not eat their way through that grain. You know, winter

spk_0:   1:34
can look over across the road to the farm.

spk_1:   1:37
Well, look, another grain elevator, More bins. Because Iowa,

spk_0:   1:45
and then, if you look over just across worried a very flat part, you know, just south of Des Moines, it lists were going as to come under this underpass. We're gonna open up a new vista coming under this underpass. I don't realize what time we're passing. It doesn't matter. And you can start looking over across the fields and the horizons. What do you see?

spk_1:   2:07
Green bins. Elevators

spk_0:   2:11
all over the place, Stojan.

spk_1:   2:13
Well, except for the big stretches of cornfields and the occasional soybean field in between. Yeah.

spk_0:   2:19
Okay, No, let's assume for a minute that the stuff has hit the fan.

spk_1:   2:30
Oh, I guess we're not gonna go hungry any time soon.

spk_0:   2:34
Why not? Because Grandin's because grain bins full of grain. Because fields planted with grain. Because we are where the food comes from. And that's going to be the subject of this short little podcast. Is where in the world do you need to be in a in a long term bad situation? Why not where the food comes from rather than where the food goes to. My thesis is this If you need food, if you're a person who needs food, all right, you have to acquire food. That's a multi step kind of thing. How How do you How did you acquire food? Well, first you can grow your own food. Okay, That makes sense, right? Yeah. Your

spk_1:   3:47
time skill resource is land. Or

spk_0:   3:51
you can acquire food through purchase, trade or whatever. Correct? Yes. Okay, But here's the kicker to acquire food. Isn't it true that there must be food available to acquire?

spk_1:   4:11
Now? I'm not our sights economics expert, but I'm pretty sure that's not only true, but that the amount you'd have to trade to acquire the food drops as the supply of food gets larger.

spk_0:   4:24
And Okay, we're driving. Just write down. What is it that you see coming up on the left?

spk_1:   4:29
A giant enormous elevator. Well, not ginormous by Iowa standards, but be

spk_0:   4:36
really big. That, in case you can't tell from a distance, is a feed mill. And that is you have a much

spk_1:   4:44
better very diet here because I also see a whole row of sheds

spk_0:   4:47
for cattle. Yes, so most people Cavalleri. Most people don't realize in America that we'll fit. We'll think about it. But most people don't realize most of the grain that's grown in America and store it in. What do you see out there in the distance? Maur Elevator, another J enormous. Want to spread it with him? Everywhere we turn, we see Green Elevator's here in Iowa because this is where the tall corn grows. There's a song I Iowa, yet to that, uh, todo Iowa, Iowa. That's where the tall corn grows and it does grow here, and they grow it in amazing amounts. But what happens to this court? Do you get this corn in that little can a corner, that frozen bag accord you get? It's grocery store somewhere

spk_1:   5:44
stuck to the stocks that are poking up out of the ground right here, actually. But

spk_0:   5:48
is that what happens? Do you get? Do you go to the grocery store by it in those little cans? No, ma'am, you do not. That's because that's a different category of sweet corn and sweet court is such a minute very, very tiny percentage of the corn is planted in America as to make it almost irrelevant. This stuff is used to feed livestock. This stuff is used to make sweetener. The stuff is used to make corn syrup, corn products. The soybean are used to make all kinds of different stuff. And as feed

spk_1:   6:33
get you and the feedlots air about Nebraska. So there's gonna be a lot of hungry cattle in Nebraska.

spk_0:   6:39
There are gonna be a lot of hungry cattle in Nebraska

spk_1:   6:41
if something bad happens.

spk_0:   6:44
Now, the people here in Iowa and many other Midwestern states grow way, way more corn than they could ever use,

spk_1:   6:54
and they don't require irrigation to get it done. In most places,

spk_0:   6:59
that's right.

spk_1:   7:00
Which means if there's no oh, good, freely available power source other than animal labor and humans being animals, you're still gonna have lots of food production possible

spk_0:   7:15
because this dirt right over here

spk_1:   7:16
and resources, right, they're gonna be working

spk_0:   7:17
harder. This dirt right over here is black ter. This is good dirt. This is clay. You can grow if you cannot grow 225 bushel and acre corn in a decent year on this land, there's something wrong with

spk_1:   7:38
you. You have water farming

spk_0:   7:40
with modern farmer. You know where we live. That's not true.

spk_1:   7:42
It'd be way less without the hybrid seeds in the mechanized farming in the chemical inputs

spk_0:   7:47
right, cause our soil is not nearly as good as the soil is.

spk_1:   7:49
They would go back to a mixed agriculture where they run animals on some of it and use the animal fertilizer, too. Keep the core and growing and stuff like that. But you know that still make a lot of food.

spk_0:   8:01
And, you know, the funny thing about doing it that way is it's actually a much better way to survive than just thes massively huge fields of corn.

spk_1:   8:12
The's huge fields, air good for making money. They're not good for living off the land, per se

spk_0:   8:18
exactly. But still, if something bad happens, it's something that's

spk_1:   8:25
gardens, too. So we'll be

spk_0:   8:26
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You could think of the truck you could grow here. Gosh, if something bad happens, I say it's my contention is you need to be where the food is, rather than where the food isn't. Yeah, you know, that's that's basically what I wanted to say. I think that you know the whole idea of bugging, and I get that. But I worry about people who are taking that is their ultimate plan, You know,

spk_1:   9:03
for what is a no end game in sight scenario?

spk_0:   9:07
Yeah. How are you gonna eat? Where is the food? Are you where the food is? If you're not, this is just something to rear. Really gonna have to noodle on because I don't know how you're going to eat. I know how people around here are going to eat.

spk_1:   9:24
I don't want to be within 100 and 50 miles of a big city in that kind of situation. But since I don't live 150 miles from within a big city,

spk_0:   9:34
the biggest city that we live near his De Moines, there's a whole lot of food between us, and you're

spk_1:   9:42
not coming down to dessert

spk_0:   9:43
now. They're not coming down to Missouri to take our food away from us.

spk_1:   9:46
Our diet would be better because their agriculture is more mixed. But

spk_0:   9:50
yeah, we got a kid in the city and we got ST Louis. And you know, we asked that we actually got another project. We're working on another podcast that's going to relate to this podcast, and so what? We're not going to spill the beans on that, But let's just say not only do you need to, um, be able to be where the food is, you need to husband. The resource is of people who know how to grow food in different ways. People know what I heat their houses in different ways, people of alternatives, but we're gonna leave that for another podcast. So the short little podcast this episode. I hope you enjoyed it. Here's what she's

spk_1:   10:37
because those whole thing about people holding up signs said, We'll work for food when a farmer no longer can depend on a tractor and you have to put in the food by hand and hold it and attended and then harvested by hand, will work for food becomes betrayed. You could make because they need the labor to get the food.

spk_0:   11:02
That's a good point. Now, here. Here's what I want everybody to do. Here's what I want everybody to do. I want you to Google lists or go to YouTube and Google. It go to YouTube and we did this just the other day and look up the tornado see from The Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz was filmed in 19 in the late 19 thirties. I think was folk 38 39. It was released in 39. It's probably filmed in 38. Go watch the twister scene. And you know, the twisters against just terrified me when I was six. But I'm not even talking about the twister. And I'm not even talking about the need to get into the tornado shelter to be safe, because that makes sense. What I'm talking about watched the scene and think about Okay, who do we have there? We have Auntie Em. We've got Uncle. What's his name? I don't remember. And we have the three hired hands who were working on the farm,

spk_1:   12:19
and that was clearly just a little

spk_0:   12:21
Yeah, it was just a little bay small farm. And you had four men and a woman working that place. And this is after tractors came in. The reason they're so much space available for lower lower population these rural areas is because so much of the of the, uh agricultural system has been mechanized and modernized and machine ized and turned factory ized.

spk_1:   12:57
It streamlined for sale rather than for surviving on right. So arms are a lot more work,

spk_0:   13:04
a lot more work. So just look at that. You see all these guys in a monitoring person who lives in a small town? You see modern farms, modern farms are you got Dad and your mom, and if you get some work out of the kids, that's good. It was to get old enoughto help out with Hang. That's good, but that's it.

spk_1:   13:29
You often have one of the one of the kids stay home, too. Work the place Not always, but often,

spk_0:   13:35
sometimes sometimes and sometimes, like a lot of people have family farms for where you'll have, uh, your brother will come over and you'll both plant yours. Then you'll go over and help your brother plant hiss very common. Or you'll you'll by a place next to your dad's and period comment. So you do have a but back then they would have 5 to 67 people fully gainfully employed off that one little form. And there are farm houses all over the Midwest, which are falling in because they're no longer needed. They're no longer desired because I mean, frankly, people today want mansions. They don't want regular houses.

spk_1:   14:21
And there's not enough work to put people in those houses and have them be able to work fairly close to home,

spk_0:   14:27
right? I mean, besides, what do you need? 33 small houses around a farm that nobody works at except for the one person who knows it. Um, the other side of the coin is there are a lot of really cheap houses of people out here. If you're just willing toe by it. Of course, we have a whole series of, uh, of things on how to find a very affordable I don't know if I published that. Yeah, we've recorded it and we read. We did. Did we? Okay.

spk_1:   14:57
I know We recorded it. I was agreeing.

spk_0:   14:59
I'm not sure I have actually bought. We'll look into that. We do. We work ahead of time. So you may be hearing this at Christmas. Who knows who recorded it last Christmas spirit. We've got a couple last winter. We never ran. We're saving. That's right. We did record that last Christmas. Didn't weigh. Those were driving through Alabama anyway. Just a thought Some. Are you good gonna wrap it.

spk_1:   15:26
Good. I live with the food. Is

spk_0:   15:28
I live where the food is too. So what? You're gonna push the button and we'll see you next time?