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Hello, everybody.

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Hello, everybody. And welcome to the show The Big show. The most important incredibly, it can't was important and critically acclaimed podcast that is recorded in our car. And yes, we are in the car today. We're in the red studio, the little Red Street. We're heading north, north in tow. Iowa I away. Welcome to the show. There's something that's been a big change. There's been a There's a huge

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change today. There's disturbance in the force.

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There is AJ's driving Spice is driving. I am the passenger today, unlike normal, she doesn't like to drive that much, and I like to drive, so we usually split it up that way. But today we're not. We have Ah, we have a change because I have a broken paw. My pot is broken,

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his ankle is on holiday

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ankles on holiday, and I cannot drive except in case of extreme emergency, because you can't really run a gas pedal with the cast. You can, but it doesn't work very well when I would've broke the ankle and this is not with the topic of podcast is about, by the way I'm just sharing would've broke the ankle. I did drive myself to the hospital, and I did actually drive myself home, but I don't recommend it. That trip home was not good. It was not good. So anyway, long story short, she's driving. Not that it matters a bit to you, because she could talk and drive just as well she can. Talking. Ride, I hope. I guess we'll

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find out our way. By the way, I didn't recommend he drove himself home from the hospital, either. But that's how these things goes into.

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No, I was I was a bullheaded crowd about it being honest with you. And I could say that because I'm part crowd. She's all crowd,

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all the crowd.

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She's she's crowd as you can be. I'm partially crowd a little bit. Not much. Mostly crunch, to be honest, but don't hold that against me. My family came over way, way, way long before modern France, like early for traders and trappers, type over. So anyway, long story short, welcome to the show. We're going to talk today about the article that Spice just wrote this morning and is today's Thanksgiving Day of 2018. Since we're going to go ahead and publish the podcast the same day we record it, which is something we do not always do. We're going thio. I'll let you know when this is recorded and it's Thanksgiving. It's about food. It's about family. But this is not what this podcast is about. We're not about food or family, really.

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Thanksgiving is about thanks giving yes,

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Thanksgiving's about Thanksgiving. But Thanksgiving more and more has become just the launch point for Black Friday. Yeah, and Spice and I are not big black Friday fans. We're not at all big Black Friday fans because we even though we have an astronomical amount of stuff, it seems sometimes we're not really that into stuff. Well, we have a lot, and it's all my fault. She's not denying it. She's laughing. There's a difference between a laughter and a denial. It's not entirely all my fault, but it's 98% of all.

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Let's say I am not a shopper.

spk_1:   3:32
No, in fact, to do the detriment of my sanity. Sometimes she's not a shopper. Yeah, I know that, but you work in the town with all the grocery stores. Okay, anyway, long story, short pressing, right? Look. Not that there's any angst, but she works in the time of all the good grocery stores, and we have one little Freddie expensive bagger. She's shopping anyway, moving right along stuff. I haven't read the article, so you're gonna have to

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I have to hit it in salty and eyes. Black Friday tradition to be is far away from commercial shopping as possible.

spk_1:   4:18
You know, we've had some really amazingly faraway experiences on our Black Friday

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have both in distance and in mind set. We've been a very long way away from shopping on Black Fridays.

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Part of the deal is this I have. She has a job where she has certain weeks that she's available, Um, during the year where everything shuts down so we know when she's available. My job is pretty easy. I could pretty much choose to get away most any time I want to, but I don't like taking vacations alone, so we're pretty much tied to her schedule. And one of the times we always have both of us. Since we don't we always My job gives Black Friday off is we could take a long weekend, and we've done some absolutely insane road trips on these long weekends. We're in Missouri now. We don't do insane road trips north all that often in the winter because

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don't saying

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go north in the winter. You were a little north of winter, but not, you know. But between this weekend and the fourth of July, whatever. We can roll that into a three or four day. We can't we really? We have at, um, in Thanksgiving, we have go on to, uh, remember, we're in North Missouri. We're not. It's a casual drive for us to go to Iowa. So we're North Missouri. It's not that long of a drive for us to go to Illinois. Were closer to Illinois than we are close to Kansas. But even Kansas isn't really that long of a drive. But you were a little close toe annoying. So but Iowa is by far the closest state where we let were right up right up there on the you could smell Iowa from where the places

spk_0:   6:32
smells like corn

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corn. Um, anyway, long story short, we've been known to We went to Shiloh one year the Shiloh battlefield. I think we've actually done that more than once.

spk_0:   6:49
Yes. Mallory remind you what you're grateful of.

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Yeah, we've got to Perry, though in Kentucky we've gone thio Mammoth Kay And that's in Kentucky. We've gone thio

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middle of nowhere. Nebraska.

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Yeah, every respond in Nebraska, which is the middle of nowhere, really is if you want someplace fun to go where you're pretty much all by yourself. I ke I got I got for you can go But it's in Nebraska and we've been to just as far away as we can get. We've gone diving in Florida, which was insane. That was insane. Trip drive to Florida, Get into dives. Absolutely nuts. But it was fun, But it was months. I think we actually had an extra day that year. Way had an extra day. For some reason there was I don't know what itwas but you had an extra day. So we drove all the way to the pain handle Flora from Missouri. Now you can't fly there with scuba tanks and scuba gear. You just can't do it. You just It's way too expensive and we don't rent our cave here. That's just not happening. We would possibly rent tanks, but that's it. You know, the rest of the stuff we take with us, and we are dive lights for cave dives. You can't get him on an airplane because the batteries are too big. The lithium batteries are way too big to put on an airplane. They won't let John with that type of battery. So anyway, long story short. That's Ah

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so first to get back to where we're trying to go

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there. Why we're doing this.

spk_0:   8:56
Yeah, it's not about the stuff. It's it's easy. Obviously, Preppers needs him stuff, but it's easy to focus on that too far, especially because there is nearly an unlimited supply of sellers willing to help you concentrate on that aspect of it. And it's a cheap not monetarily, cheap but cheap and effort cheap in time, quick way to feel like you've accomplished something for prepping, if you by something you think you might need. So it's basically a quick, easy win, and I think people focus on that and sometimes overlooked the other aspects of it. So in the spirit of it's not all about the stuff on Black Friday, this is a what else is it about post, and part of it is What do you do with the stuff. First, you gotta have it organized so you can find what you need and get to it when you need to get to it. And I start with that because, frankly, this is salty and eyes. Achilles heel.

spk_1:   10:13
Oh, yeah, Absolutely. This is only we need to do much better and we've gotten better. We have gotten better, but not nearly good enough.

spk_0:   10:22
Yeah, you have to be able to find the stuff when it's necessary. So especially, you need to think about that. The stuff you would need in without much warning and especially stuff you might need in the middle of the night, one of dark. And if there's no power, you can't see stuff. Make sure you've got stuff organized, so the stuff that is important to find in short order, you can get two. In short order,

spk_1:   10:51
keep your wallets in the same place. Keep the car keys in the same place. Keep the you know, because you may not be willing to drive away if your house catches on fire, but you can sit in your car, not freeze to death. Well, the fire department comes.

spk_0:   11:03
We have a firebox where we keep important documents and spare copies of our keys. And we set that somewhere. What would be very easy to grab? And in fact, we've been awakened in the middle of the night by the town fire. Our tornado siren?

spk_1:   11:20
Yep. That's first thing we do is put up the firebox robber wallets. Grab the firebox, rubber shoes. Anything else you could pretty much do what you want. You want to do shoes? You really d'oh shoots her a big deal.

spk_0:   11:31
Yeah. In fact, in tornado weather, we put a nice, sturdy shoes by the firebox. So we were lying in the dark

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in tornado when it's, like a serious chance of of, ah, call out. We're like the fire department with you. You know how they used to wake up and jump into there, um, jump into there pants and boots and go. What kind of like that?

spk_0:   11:57
Well, my dad was a volunteer fireman and he kept his boots like that

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and near

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the front door, they're too heavy to walk around in for casual, But they were sitting by the front door, so if he's on his way out, he just takes three seconds to step into his boots.

spk_1:   12:14
Are we ready? For our aside, I haven't aside. Okay, Which reminds me to mention something. Fire alarms. We had an incident last night where something that was put in the oven really smoked bad. There was, Ah, Miss happened and it started smoking and I mean, smoked up the place like bad. The smoke was rolling through. I was sitting in the living room and the smoke was rolling through the doorway and the kitchen was filled with smoke. And it was no big deal as far as the actual any trouble. Just something in the oven was smoking. That shouldn't have been you. Just long story short. It was a a issue that was with the actual food item, not the oven or not. Anything else but the deal. Waas. Our doorway from the living room to the kitchen is you know, it drops down a couple feet from we have high ceilings. So it drops down a couple feet and the top 23 feet of the ceiling in the kitchen were filled with smoke. The smoke was pouring through the doorway, yet our smoke detector did not go off,

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which was sitting on the ledge at the

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top of the way. Let's go in the top drawer. That's where I keep it. Because I wanted high because the smoke goes up and we were We had, you know, a post apocalyptic. Okay, it was a little bit of smoke, but that turned the fans on, blew it. You know, we have kitchen fans. Blew the smoke right out. No big deal. Wasn't even unpleasant. Odor, blueberry pie gone bad, the apple pie or some kind of pie gone bad. And it went off the rails. But as we always do in every situation that comes up like this, we do a postmortem on it. What were the problems? Did we have any problems? Okay, well, the problem with that pie won't happen again. I'm 100% convinced that will never happen again. It's no big deal, but the problem with the smoke detector is a whole different issue. My first thought was, Well, why don't let's dump placement? Why don't we take that smoke detector and put it on the other side of the doorway where the smoke in the kitchen, which is the most likely place to get smoke? It is much more likely to trigger it. And you still be able to hear it because it's an open doorway. As Vice pipes up and says, Guess what? We have heating stuff in this room.

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The heating and air conditioning unit

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way have had an air conditioner go absolutely bonkers on us before and nearly catch on fire happened last year. Uh, so we don't want to pull the smoke detector out of that room and I'm like, Okay, these things cost 10 bucks. Let's just get another smoke detector and put it up on the other side.

spk_0:   15:37
Also, I'm going to make something smoking a safe way when we're not going to have to sit in a house with smoke for hours afterward and make sure that smoke detector actually works.

spk_1:   15:46
Yes, we're gonna have to do what we want to test the smoke detector that was pretty smoking. And I'm surprised. I think they're not going up. So, um, part of our we are gonna do a little shopping at some point in time, and part of our shopping is going to be smoke detectors.

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It's not gonna be tomorrow,

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but it's not going to be tomorrow. Well,

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so that we have a handicap parking tag.

spk_1:   16:09
Whoa! And I'm a just get him off the hammers on because, frankly, we live in a small town and Amazon is our local store. It's not like we're stealing business from a local store tow shop on Amazon. On most things, maybe a fired it. We might go toe local farmers branch store,

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but falls neatly in the category of organizing your stuff. So where where it needs to be that but yes,

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it was you think it was right where it should be, But it turns out it wasn't so, you know, and I'm not opposed to a smoke detector in every single room. I don't think that's overkill, but I do tell you make sure you keep track of where every one of them or you may go into the Assane asylum. When the one that you lose track of and can't find anywhere starts beeping of the battery is dead or dying. Trust your friend Salty on this one. We spent months trying to find that thing. We'd be signal having me here. It was far away, so we couldn't really tell. But it was very non specific chirp.

spk_0:   17:28
I pitched so hard to localize.

spk_1:   17:29
We tour that house apart looking for it. Turns out it was on the back porch, got knocked over and put on something and knocked over and was fell behind. We pull the the screen door off in the fall or we did. It was hiding

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my foot storm door on

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Was hiding behind a screen.

spk_0:   17:52
Yeah, it is. First chirped in the middle of the night that somebody was half asleep, put it on the back porch so we wouldn't have to listen to it all night and forgot. That's where we put it.

spk_1:   18:04
Like we say. Organizational issues, Air challenge for us. Way used to have. And I'll be honest. I thought this was ridiculous. We used to have ammunition from one into the house to another. No, they re safely put away. And Baikal, But they were up for one into the house. The other. I really can't even give you an answer. Why they were that way.

spk_0:   18:25
No, I can. Because you buy ammunition when you saw Good seo Are stress buying sometimes.

spk_1:   18:34
Yeah, I stress by. I have improved on that.

spk_0:   18:38
Yes, but that was a problem for a while. And that's one of the reason we got so much stuff

spk_1:   18:42
and my answer was buy ammunition. Whenever I didn't like what was going on in the world, I would buy ammunition because I I had this thing and we have actually have another. We have another story we should link that. Uh, this would be a good link in with your story. I want to add that one to get back the story I did on

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your ammunition problem. My

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ammunition. Well, here's the thing. This is a perfect tie in. It's another story I did recently is when I broke my foot. So I thought this was this was the trip. I walked out the front store, wasn't paying a bit of attention, hit the top step. It had ice on it on October 14th in Missouri and had ice, which is ridiculous. Okay, is ridiculously early. But it did, and down I went. I went down the full flight of stairs. I hit the concrete. I was skimmed from stem to stern from the concrete and the stairs, um, and a broken ankle. And I tweaked my name, which the need since I haven't used it, got better. But, um, And there it Wasit was laying there and I was laying there on the ground in the cold. Hadn't put my coat on. And I was just running out of the car to go to work. And I was safely, I would say, within 25 feet of 10,000 rounds of nine millimeter ammunition.

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Didn't help a bit. Didn't

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help a bit because I had all this humongous amount of prepping material stored that wasn't that wanted the emergency problem. Exactly. So all the ammunition in the world wasn't going to help me. The fact I just broke my ankle. Now, had this been a stuff hits the fan type moment, what would have helped me, I would have had to crawl up the stairs. They crawl in the house, but right inside the door, we have our big emergency kit and we have Sam spoils and we have bandages, straps to wrap up the splints that would have helped if we were in a stuff hits the fan where I could not get medical help. This injury would have mostly not entirely, but mostly healed on its own because it was not dislocated displaced. I still would have had a little bit limited. It would have been a stable, but I could have lived with it.

spk_0:   21:34
Would've been wearing those big, heavy, high top boots more often.

spk_1:   21:37
Yeah, because it wouldn't been a stable. And I trust my ankle and there would have been a piece of bone in there. They're just not necessarily been good. Having said that, the stuff hadn't hit the fans. I was able to get medical help, but as a perfect example of yes, my point isn't that, you know, I felt I broke my leg. My point was, I had all these wonderful mounds and piles of ammunition that I bought when I was stressed by, But they're only good for a certain A couple of things, and I weigh over, extended our prepping money into ammunition and guns. Now, to be fair, I have offloaded a lot of those guns we had way too many guys were. We've cut way back on the number of guns. I've probably sold more guns than most people I've ever owned in their lives just to get down on the number of guns. That's part of this, too,

spk_0:   22:51
so balance that's

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not only stuff but the right stuff.

spk_0:   22:55
Yeah, and the same split brings up another nice point. Know how to use this stuff.

spk_1:   23:01
Know how to use this stuff? I Well, I would have real difficulty splitting my own leg because I gotta be honest. This kind of hurt. There's a lot of pain and, you know, you're dealing with pain. It's your foot. It's the body. I would have had real trouble with it. But if the stuff hits the fan Spice would have been around and Spice condone it. She knows how.

spk_0:   23:23
I could be the 1st 1 of those injuries. I have Sam splinted. Yeah,

spk_1:   23:27
I could do it to her, but I don't think it could have done it myself. My hands were shaking her. I busted my leg. It was not a pain free experience.

spk_0:   23:40
You'd have been able to do it once you got over the adrenaline shock of it and realized that's what needed to be done. You could have gotten it done, but I'm glad you didn't have to. So

spk_1:   23:52
turns out I have a good friend who is a A sports coach. Long time coach. Yeah, he's dealt with injuries. Yeah, Weekly your football baseball guys knows his injuries. So I called him and he came over and took one look at it and said Hospital so the way I went. So what else? Your article saying

spk_0:   24:22
once you know how to use your stuff and get regular practice with it, If it's something that skill is critical on, Ah, find good ways to store your stuff so it stays good long term and you can manage the parts of it that need management. So stuff that could go on a long term storage figure out what conditions it needs. So it'll actually still be good when you get there. That's a big one, because we've found that it's It's kind of like when you garden, you read what plants want. Plant infertile, well watered soil in full sun. Yeah, that's like almost every plant in existence. When you want to store stuff, it's like, uh, somewhere try and cool, but not too cold and low humidity. Yeah, there's only so much of that kind of storage space in most houses, especially old houses like ours or the basement is by no means dry, and the attic is by no means cool. so consider your storage and arrange your storage options to keep stuff in good shape and to be able to easily get to and manage the stuff that needs management because otherwise it won't get done. We put one big barrel of water in the back room, which, you know it's great to have that much potable water supply. Easy, easy to get to if we need it. But that barrel needs to be swapped out, thrown on the garden and a fresh barrel put in there, and I haven't gotten it done because it's just so darned inconvenient. There's convenient enough to load up. But to get that water out onto the garden is quite the project.

spk_1:   26:10
It will be easier to least clean the barrel out. Um, now that we have the pump, Yeah, we have the pump, the transfer pump that we used for

spk_0:   26:25
Watergate, the planet's

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plays that will make it much easier. You gotta admit it's the suction and all that kind of stuff. Worst case, I mean, it's 50 gallons of water recon put it right in the draining out it goes. We have a drain in that round. So, you know. Yeah, but that water is five years old.

spk_0:   26:42
Yeah, it's timeto

spk_1:   26:43
time to dump It probably could be clean now.

spk_0:   26:45
Well, well protected, but still, it's time.

spk_1:   26:49
Yeah, with with our possible waters thing, like those big barrels. I gotta be honest. We're not gonna drink out of those barrels. We're gonna drink out of the

spk_0:   26:57
gotta Burkey

spk_1:   26:58
party. We're gonna dump the water into the Burkey, and then we'll drink it out of the perky. We're gonna treat it first, because why not?

spk_0:   27:07
Yeah, it'll probably improve the taste of nothing else There's. But when we swapped out the other one, it wasn't scary or anything. It was just less appealing. So another aspects who have done much better like before. We got a lot of canned good reserve, salty. Got what's called a can salad ater, which is a big shelf with a easy load in the top. They roll around to the bottom, so it's easy to pull the old stuff to use and load the replacements from the top. So the freshest stuff is easiest. Grab. That was a great idea. And we have been using that for years, and it's significantly reduced the average age of our canned goods because it's so easy to treat them the way they ought to be treated.

spk_1:   27:59
Right. One mistake I made. I want what I thought was good food to having an emergency and canned food. But it'll stuff we never eat can potatoes for we never even can potato. So, yeah, Wade got through most of it. Do we have any of those things that

spk_0:   28:20
we have? One can left, I think. But we mostly cleared amount.

spk_1:   28:24
Yeah, and they're not coming back. You know,

spk_0:   28:26
we made a mission of eating through my bought a bunch of canned soups, and then I started making all my own soups in the instant pot. And soups are a great thing to make with the dehydrated foods. And I started dehydrating a lot more of my stuff after we bought canned goods. So I'm eating those through those intentionally, and I'm not gonna replace him. We'll replace them with something else that I don't easily make it home. Like more canned fish perhaps. Yeah, well, maybe some of those low Melinda fake meat products. Yeah,

spk_1:   28:56
maybe learn. Very good. Those aren't very good.

spk_0:   29:01
I like him. All right. He doesn't like him. as well.

spk_1:   29:05
I don't like them as well. In case you're wondering, there, Loma Linda is a brand of vegetarian meat substitutes. And they got good shelf life.

spk_0:   29:17
Yeah, they come can and they have good shelf life. So what I'm thinking is stuff to eat with a lot of the other dehydrated foods we've got

spk_1:   29:27
right? Whereas you might want to go ahead and use like but if your meat eaters you might wanna put something like canned hamburger in their stuff like that, people who use that like it don't have much experience with myself that we never had any

spk_0:   29:42
cans. Chicken is

spk_1:   29:43
pretty good food. If you have a

spk_0:   29:46
minute. Well, I wouldn't say any kind because, technically, spam as a canned meat G, a potted meats, part of lunch meats are scary bad food, actually.

spk_1:   29:57
And frankly, they don't roll either. Is the camp solid or things are great, but they only work for things that roll things that have fairly even side. So, you know, you can get a peanut butter jar of rolling them.

spk_0:   30:11
Boy, we rolled a lot of peanut butter

spk_1:   30:14
way go through a lot of peanut butter, you know, but frankly, it keeps the peanut butter fresh and rolling the peanut butter. We use the natural kind without all the front in it. You know, are we like to two ingredients in our peanut butter, peanuts and salt. That's it. I don't want to see anything else. It is peanuts. And salt is the two ingredients. I don't want it. Anyway, um, the separation, the oil separates. And, you know, the rolling thing actually helps make it a little easier disturbed once you've had a peanut butter jar in there for two years. Theoretically, I don't think we've ever had one last two years. What have a peanut butter jar in for two years? It gets pretty pretty fun this term. Why don't you fund in a good way?

spk_0:   31:02
We limit the number of amount of space in the can solid ater wi donate to the peanut butter because it has a shorter home shelf life.

spk_1:   31:12
Yeah, a couple of years is really about as much as you're gonna go because it is it. Peanut butter is one that will go bad. Maybe singles. High fat, high oil. We'll go bad. So there's that in a huge, huge fan of food rotation. So what else we got in your article? Cover it.

spk_0:   31:37
I think that was about it.

spk_1:   31:40
Okay, so we'll call this one good, and we'll catch it next time.