1 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:04,407 Andrew Quilpa: Had you actually read the email, you would know 2 00:00:04,447 --> 00:00:07,230 that the podcast you are about to listen to could contain 3 00:00:07,331 --> 00:00:09,814 explicit language and offensive content. 4 00:00:09,814 --> 00:00:14,474 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, 5 00:00:14,814 --> 00:00:16,480 present or future employers. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,707 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 7 00:00:19,707 --> 00:00:24,722 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write 8 00:00:24,762 --> 00:00:26,548 up my employee for crying too much? 9 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,841 Welcome to our little safe zone . 10 00:00:28,841 --> 00:00:37,965 Welcome to Jaded HR. 11 00:00:45,868 --> 00:00:49,131 Warren: Welcome to Jaded HR, the podcast by two HR professionals 12 00:00:49,131 --> 00:00:51,171 who want to help you get through the workday by saying 13 00:00:51,231 --> 00:00:53,192 everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 14 00:00:53,192 --> 00:00:54,012 I'm Warren. 15 00:00:54,673 --> 00:00:58,174 Cee Cee: I'm Cece All right back again. 16 00:00:58,956 --> 00:01:02,997 Warren: Yeah, so we were talking about your Snowmageddon and my 17 00:01:03,078 --> 00:01:04,237 lack of it last episode. 18 00:01:04,237 --> 00:01:08,671 Now my area is actually getting it. 19 00:01:08,671 --> 00:01:09,373 I was telling you before we started. 20 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:12,495 You know it's actually snowing here in the coast of North 21 00:01:12,515 --> 00:01:15,216 Carolina because you've got the warm water of the Atlantic Ocean 22 00:01:15,216 --> 00:01:19,649 and where I live, the sound the Curry Tuck sound is like 200 23 00:01:19,689 --> 00:01:19,909 yards. 24 00:01:19,909 --> 00:01:24,692 That way it's warm water so it like shields us from snow most 25 00:01:24,712 --> 00:01:27,621 of the time, but it's like I'm looking out the window right now 26 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:28,944 I can see it in the light. 27 00:01:28,944 --> 00:01:30,728 It's really coming down. 28 00:01:30,728 --> 00:01:35,006 We're depending on which app you use or weather station you 29 00:01:35,027 --> 00:01:37,513 look at, you know it's somewhere between six and nine inches 30 00:01:37,579 --> 00:01:38,240 we're supposed to get. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,888 It was just like mind-blowing because we go years without 32 00:01:43,308 --> 00:01:46,274 anything and now we're actually gonna get some. 33 00:01:46,513 --> 00:01:49,308 Cee Cee: My brother-in-law in norlean sent me a picture his 34 00:01:49,347 --> 00:01:52,399 son in the front yard and it looks like it's probably six 35 00:01:52,459 --> 00:01:57,010 inches there and oh my gosh, yeah, this, the snowstorm is 36 00:01:57,052 --> 00:02:00,822 crazy he was trying to contact one of our vendors today, just 37 00:02:00,861 --> 00:02:04,114 to connect with them, and I got an automatic reply back and he 38 00:02:04,194 --> 00:02:07,387 said, or it said, something along the lines of I'm not in 39 00:02:07,406 --> 00:02:11,020 the office today, I'm enjoying our first snow in New Orleans 40 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:14,747 for like since for 17 years or something and I was like, good 41 00:02:14,766 --> 00:02:16,850 for you, enjoy exactly. 42 00:02:17,752 --> 00:02:22,706 Warren: yeah, I don't think my nephew down there has ever seen 43 00:02:22,766 --> 00:02:23,027 snow. 44 00:02:23,027 --> 00:02:26,653 This might be his first time ever seeing snow, at least down 45 00:02:26,674 --> 00:02:26,834 there. 46 00:02:26,834 --> 00:02:30,467 Maybe he's traveled somewhere, but but I was telling you this 47 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:33,362 is the snow I personally like, because most of the time in the 48 00:02:33,402 --> 00:02:36,936 south the snow we get is that wet, mushy, slushy stuff. 49 00:02:36,936 --> 00:02:40,247 Yeah, I can tell you when it would snow when my was little, 50 00:02:40,527 --> 00:02:43,001 my brother we'd come, we'd have a snowball fight and we'd be 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,621 coming home all bloody as you pack a snowball and you're just 52 00:02:45,662 --> 00:02:48,349 throwing a chunk of ice at each other by the time you do that 53 00:02:49,722 --> 00:02:52,707 and yeah, there were some—we looked like we'd been through a 54 00:02:52,747 --> 00:02:55,854 real war after a couple of rounds of snowball fights out 55 00:02:55,894 --> 00:02:56,054 there. 56 00:02:56,054 --> 00:02:58,388 But yeah, but this is the light powdery stuff. 57 00:02:58,780 --> 00:03:02,587 You know my grandmother who, by the way, on last Wednesday, the 58 00:03:02,647 --> 00:03:05,813 15th she turned 106 years old. 59 00:03:05,813 --> 00:03:10,471 She's doing okay, especially for being 106. 60 00:03:10,471 --> 00:03:12,866 Yeah, I called her. 61 00:03:12,866 --> 00:03:15,961 She didn't have a clue who I was, I don't think, but she was 62 00:03:16,062 --> 00:03:19,542 very sweet and very polite and I think she liked the attention 63 00:03:19,581 --> 00:03:22,406 of getting a phone call and things like that. 64 00:03:22,907 --> 00:03:30,256 But I'm named for her husband, my grandfather, and I am always 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,122 worried that. 66 00:03:31,122 --> 00:03:35,331 You know my grandfather's been dead for quite a while and will 67 00:03:35,352 --> 00:03:36,520 she think I'm him? 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,201 I just don't want. 69 00:03:37,201 --> 00:03:38,204 Oh, it's Warren. 70 00:03:38,204 --> 00:03:39,586 No, not that Warren. 71 00:03:39,586 --> 00:03:44,961 I'm always worried, since she's been sort of declining. 72 00:03:44,961 --> 00:03:47,866 But she was very happy, very polite. 73 00:03:47,866 --> 00:03:48,306 She didn't have a. 74 00:03:48,306 --> 00:03:49,747 Oh, I was worried, since she's been sort of declining. 75 00:03:49,769 --> 00:03:50,449 Andrew Quilpa: But she was very happy, very polite. 76 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:51,189 She didn't have a clue who I was. 77 00:03:51,210 --> 00:03:53,774 Warren: Aw, yeah, yeah, but anyways, she lived in Montana up 78 00:03:53,774 --> 00:03:58,056 until very recently and this light powdery snow that sort of 79 00:03:58,816 --> 00:04:02,298 it's dry and powdery that reminds me of Montana snow and 80 00:04:02,358 --> 00:04:04,377 not, you know, north Carolina snow. 81 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:06,579 So, anyways, having a lot of fun with that. 82 00:04:06,579 --> 00:04:10,088 So, yeah, we're snowmageddon, round two down here. 83 00:04:10,670 --> 00:04:13,246 We'll see, actually, as I'm speaking, how you get that 84 00:04:13,265 --> 00:04:16,043 little Microsoft alert in the corner four inches of snow 85 00:04:16,103 --> 00:04:21,422 expected in the next four hours, six inches of snow tonight, and 86 00:04:21,422 --> 00:04:24,471 it's two additional inches of snow before whatever. 87 00:04:24,471 --> 00:04:27,521 So, anyways, it popped off too quick before I could read it. 88 00:04:27,521 --> 00:04:28,204 But yeah, we're gonna. 89 00:04:28,204 --> 00:04:30,228 It's gonna be interesting. 90 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:30,850 We'll see what. 91 00:04:30,911 --> 00:04:33,464 Cee Cee: What we have here our snow is still on the ground, 92 00:04:33,646 --> 00:04:37,961 like it hasn't gotten above freezing, which is very not 93 00:04:38,041 --> 00:04:38,742 normal for us. 94 00:04:38,742 --> 00:04:43,269 So, like it's it's been, I feel like I live in South Park, the 95 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:44,531 snow is just still there. 96 00:04:44,531 --> 00:04:46,235 Always there, always there. 97 00:04:46,235 --> 00:04:51,047 But we're going to go down to negative three tonight, so heat 98 00:04:51,086 --> 00:04:51,487 is on. 99 00:04:51,487 --> 00:04:53,968 I am bundled in an oversized hoodie. 100 00:04:53,968 --> 00:04:58,944 I'm like this is my vibe, just yeah. 101 00:05:00,168 --> 00:05:00,589 Warren: Ready for it. 102 00:05:00,589 --> 00:05:05,129 So I'm now only coming into this room over at the garage to 103 00:05:05,211 --> 00:05:05,572 record. 104 00:05:05,572 --> 00:05:07,245 Now I'm doing everything else. 105 00:05:07,245 --> 00:05:08,867 I take my laptop downstairs. 106 00:05:08,867 --> 00:05:13,490 I even got a little lap desk thing, which is actually quite 107 00:05:13,612 --> 00:05:18,166 awesome, and I have a portable second screen monitor that, if I 108 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:21,091 wanted to put on there, I could put on so I could do things 109 00:05:21,132 --> 00:05:21,653 from my desk. 110 00:05:21,653 --> 00:05:24,646 Oh yeah, so I'm only coming up here to record, where I can be 111 00:05:24,685 --> 00:05:27,091 in peace and quiet and things like that. 112 00:05:27,091 --> 00:05:32,166 So yeah, but I didn't have the heat on and so it's still 113 00:05:32,208 --> 00:05:32,588 working. 114 00:05:33,221 --> 00:05:38,882 I'm getting up here, so it'll kick in at some point, but, 115 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:43,793 unlike previous recent episodes, I actually did homework. 116 00:05:43,793 --> 00:05:52,380 Yay, I typed up notes and I am prepared for podcasting today. 117 00:05:52,380 --> 00:05:58,192 So let's see if that makes any difference at all or not. 118 00:05:58,192 --> 00:05:59,615 So anyway. 119 00:05:59,615 --> 00:06:05,610 So I did a webinar this week and my wife actually did the 120 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:06,711 same webinar. 121 00:06:06,711 --> 00:06:10,350 It was from a company that's known for their HRS and payroll 122 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:10,810 systems. 123 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:14,511 They have a three letter name, but I won't mention who they are 124 00:06:14,511 --> 00:06:14,511 . 125 00:06:14,511 --> 00:06:19,014 Anyways, I was doing the webinar and the opening keynote 126 00:06:19,074 --> 00:06:19,495 speaker. 127 00:06:19,495 --> 00:06:25,209 The opening keynote speaker was I've said it a number of times 128 00:06:25,269 --> 00:06:27,673 before before I have a disdain for keynotes. 129 00:06:29,043 --> 00:06:30,627 I I see many of them. 130 00:06:30,627 --> 00:06:33,134 And this one was the same as it's. 131 00:06:33,134 --> 00:06:36,060 It's your stereotypical hallmark or lifetime movie. 132 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:40,730 You, you, you take a tragedy, you put a setting in whatever 133 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:44,309 setting it's in, and then what they did to overcome it, 134 00:06:44,329 --> 00:06:46,221 including writing a book don't forget writing the book. 135 00:06:46,221 --> 00:06:50,531 And then how they, how they overcame that, that problem. 136 00:06:50,531 --> 00:06:54,646 And this person, she had a horrible tragedy go on in her 137 00:06:54,706 --> 00:07:01,362 life, but it was, it was formulaic, keynote speaker and 138 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:05,451 after like 15 minutes, and in that 15 minutes, 10 mentions of 139 00:07:05,471 --> 00:07:06,682 her book, I muted it. 140 00:07:06,682 --> 00:07:10,355 I was like done, I'll just mute it, I'll work on the side. 141 00:07:10,795 --> 00:07:14,264 My wife, my wife listened to it and you know we compared notes 142 00:07:14,404 --> 00:07:16,428 afterwards and she really liked it. 143 00:07:16,428 --> 00:07:21,225 And she liked the lady's story and it really related. 144 00:07:21,225 --> 00:07:23,209 Well, she liked the story. 145 00:07:23,209 --> 00:07:25,194 It was a sad, tragic story and things. 146 00:07:25,194 --> 00:07:28,389 But I said, well, you liked the story, but what did you get out 147 00:07:28,389 --> 00:07:28,529 of it? 148 00:07:28,529 --> 00:07:32,266 Was there substance, any level of substance that you're going 149 00:07:32,286 --> 00:07:36,923 to get out and say you know that you're better for and you know 150 00:07:36,983 --> 00:07:38,449 we're listening to that for an hour? 151 00:07:38,449 --> 00:07:41,584 And she said, well, no, but it was a really nice, compelling 152 00:07:41,625 --> 00:07:41,805 story. 153 00:07:41,805 --> 00:07:43,810 I'm like, yeah, but I don't. 154 00:07:43,810 --> 00:07:46,023 You know, I can watch TV. 155 00:07:46,023 --> 00:07:50,827 If I want a nice story, I don't wanna be in a seminar to hear 156 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:52,230 that same story. 157 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:58,326 And you know, okay, here's another thing going off my notes 158 00:07:58,326 --> 00:07:58,505 here. 159 00:07:58,505 --> 00:08:02,281 So all these keynote speakers and their books that they're 160 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:07,173 hawking on there Once upon a time somebody got my wife into. 161 00:08:07,173 --> 00:08:08,958 My wife likes self-help books. 162 00:08:08,958 --> 00:08:10,428 I despise them. 163 00:08:10,668 --> 00:08:11,612 Cee Cee: I love them too. 164 00:08:12,334 --> 00:08:13,237 Warren: You like them too, okay. 165 00:08:13,425 --> 00:08:15,774 Cee Cee: Well, professional development like books. 166 00:08:15,774 --> 00:08:17,391 I love professional development books. 167 00:08:18,745 --> 00:08:21,612 Warren: Well, our former next door neighbor and my wife were 168 00:08:21,634 --> 00:08:23,627 talking about these self-help books and everything and he 169 00:08:23,728 --> 00:08:27,692 recommended one to her and then he ended up just bringing it by 170 00:08:27,733 --> 00:08:28,495 and giving it to her. 171 00:08:28,495 --> 00:08:32,001 Recommended one to her and then he ended up just bringing it by 172 00:08:32,001 --> 00:08:32,585 and giving it to her. 173 00:08:32,585 --> 00:08:37,309 And I've noticed this on the only well, not the only, but a 174 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:38,596 few of the keynote speakers when I've actually seen their books 175 00:08:38,615 --> 00:08:38,797 in person. 176 00:08:38,797 --> 00:08:40,684 They're self-published and that's a huge red flag to me. 177 00:08:40,684 --> 00:08:44,414 If it's self-published, I could write a, I could self-publish a 178 00:08:44,414 --> 00:08:47,871 book tomorrow, just transcribe all the episodes and make a. 179 00:08:47,871 --> 00:08:52,972 Well, this was a physical book but it was like my wife could 180 00:08:52,993 --> 00:08:55,787 not get past the first chapter of it because the grammar there 181 00:08:55,807 --> 00:08:58,674 was no editing, it was like grammar error, central and 182 00:08:58,695 --> 00:08:59,115 things like that. 183 00:08:59,115 --> 00:09:02,573 And I see that for a lot of these you know self-help and 184 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:06,345 keynote speaker types because the the market is so flooded 185 00:09:06,485 --> 00:09:08,572 with that and I think that's probably one of the only. 186 00:09:08,572 --> 00:09:10,048 Now you do make more money. 187 00:09:10,048 --> 00:09:13,596 I understand on the self-publishing, but anyways, 188 00:09:14,404 --> 00:09:18,153 but like I said, I couldn't do it, I just muted her. 189 00:09:18,153 --> 00:09:20,653 It's like you have to be on for a long time to get your credit, 190 00:09:20,653 --> 00:09:23,934 not that I really need it, but I just went on and moved it. 191 00:09:24,546 --> 00:09:27,956 But it did remind me of a story from a friend of mine. 192 00:09:27,956 --> 00:09:32,366 But it did remind me of a story from mine. 193 00:09:32,366 --> 00:09:33,389 He is the practice administrator of a sizable one 194 00:09:33,408 --> 00:09:36,174 at large, not nationwide or anything but a medical office, 195 00:09:36,956 --> 00:09:40,168 and he was telling me you know when and what got me thinking 196 00:09:40,187 --> 00:09:44,397 this is, you know, style of or substance is he? 197 00:09:44,397 --> 00:09:47,269 He tells me the story you know about all these medical reps who 198 00:09:47,269 --> 00:09:50,837 come in and he said A, they're all always female. 199 00:09:50,837 --> 00:09:55,628 B, they're all always like tens and they're dressed to like 200 00:09:55,768 --> 00:09:59,998 inexpensive outfits that are, you know, a little bit 201 00:10:00,018 --> 00:10:00,639 provocative. 202 00:10:02,047 --> 00:10:06,542 Now, my friend is not going to be persuaded by those female 203 00:10:06,581 --> 00:10:08,350 provocative outfits, but he said they're like trained monkeys, 204 00:10:08,370 --> 00:10:09,436 their only purpose is to be persuaded by those female 205 00:10:09,456 --> 00:10:09,837 provocative outfits. 206 00:10:09,837 --> 00:10:10,985 But he sits there and says they're like trained monkeys, 207 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:14,190 their only purpose is to be eye candy and they can only do the 208 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:16,196 talking points of what they were spoon fed. 209 00:10:16,196 --> 00:10:19,909 And he says he asked them, they're all like every single 210 00:10:19,990 --> 00:10:22,616 one was like a former college cheerleader and things like that 211 00:10:22,616 --> 00:10:22,616 . 212 00:10:22,616 --> 00:10:26,052 This is like what you go into when you, after you're finished 213 00:10:26,091 --> 00:10:29,947 with cheerleading and things like that, what you go into when 214 00:10:29,947 --> 00:10:32,534 you, after you're finished with cheerleading and and things 215 00:10:32,615 --> 00:10:32,956 like that. 216 00:10:32,956 --> 00:10:34,821 But, and you know, some of the doctors he says are very smitten 217 00:10:34,821 --> 00:10:35,663 by some of these sales reps. 218 00:10:35,763 --> 00:10:37,606 But he just says it's now. 219 00:10:37,606 --> 00:10:40,914 He says he loves some of the styles these ladies are wearing 220 00:10:40,975 --> 00:10:42,317 and their stuff. 221 00:10:42,317 --> 00:10:47,548 But it's just, it's just, it's just funny, the the style over 222 00:10:47,609 --> 00:10:50,591 substance type stuff. 223 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:55,556 Cee Cee: Our friend is a pharmaceutical rep and he's the 224 00:10:55,956 --> 00:11:00,299 only guy and he always makes jokes that he's aging out 225 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:01,881 because he's turning 50. 226 00:11:08,898 --> 00:11:10,724 Warren: So he's like oh man, I'm aging out of this industry. 227 00:11:10,724 --> 00:11:11,947 That's what it seems like, according to my friend. 228 00:11:11,947 --> 00:11:13,971 I don't, I don't know anybody who's done pharmaceutical sales 229 00:11:14,051 --> 00:11:17,678 and things like that, but yeah, style over substance. 230 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:23,854 So, anyways, well, this is our second episode of 2025. 231 00:11:23,854 --> 00:11:28,399 Yes, the last week I've been reading all sorts of articles on 232 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:35,571 hr trends in 2025 and they're almost all cookie cutter 233 00:11:37,734 --> 00:11:38,114 articles. 234 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:42,547 Oh man, sherms article, whether it's I I can't think where else 235 00:11:42,547 --> 00:11:45,639 I've read these articles on but you know, I'm I'm honestly 236 00:11:46,121 --> 00:11:47,539 reading these articles because I , I want to get something. 237 00:11:47,539 --> 00:11:47,736 I'm an hr nerd. 238 00:11:47,736 --> 00:11:48,929 I, yeah, I want'm honestly reading these articles because I 239 00:11:48,929 --> 00:11:49,447 want to get something. 240 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:50,057 I'm an HR nerd. 241 00:11:50,057 --> 00:11:52,299 I want to stay on top of things . 242 00:11:52,299 --> 00:11:54,042 I want to see, oh, what's coming down the pipeline. 243 00:11:54,042 --> 00:11:59,254 But almost all of them were cookie cutter to the same AI 244 00:11:59,934 --> 00:12:03,707 returning to work, dei and B and mental health. 245 00:12:03,707 --> 00:12:06,293 And then you throw in groundbreaking. 246 00:12:07,135 --> 00:12:08,888 Yeah, there was nothing groundbreaking. 247 00:12:08,888 --> 00:12:11,928 I'm like, really, you know you, you know top trends to be on 248 00:12:11,948 --> 00:12:15,315 the lookout for 2025 and it's yeah, ai. 249 00:12:15,315 --> 00:12:17,038 You know I. 250 00:12:17,038 --> 00:12:19,490 I had a conversation with somebody not that long ago about 251 00:12:19,490 --> 00:12:23,227 ai and you know everybody some we've talked a number of times 252 00:12:23,288 --> 00:12:25,015 people think we'll lose their job to it, and you're not. 253 00:12:25,015 --> 00:12:29,166 But in this labor shortage economy, we need to automate all 254 00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:33,274 the jobs we can and be using AI to the fullest extent so we can 255 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:35,926 not have to worry about hiring being. 256 00:12:35,926 --> 00:12:39,053 You know, I could hire 10 people tomorrow if I could find 257 00:12:39,073 --> 00:12:39,916 the right 10 people. 258 00:12:40,317 --> 00:12:40,537 Cee Cee: Right. 259 00:12:41,446 --> 00:12:43,471 Warren: And I think there's so many companies out there that 260 00:12:43,491 --> 00:12:44,013 are the same way. 261 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:47,331 If you could find those right 10 people or more now I'm a 262 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:50,668 small company we could hire them if you could find them. 263 00:12:50,668 --> 00:12:55,017 So if you free people up with some AI, maybe we can make 264 00:12:55,076 --> 00:12:57,087 better use of the resources we have. 265 00:12:57,087 --> 00:13:00,996 So you know, once again, not afraid of AI Returning to work. 266 00:13:03,086 --> 00:13:04,688 Andrew Quilpa: we've been talking about it for a year now. 267 00:13:05,149 --> 00:13:08,357 Warren: It's you know, and there's more headlines out there 268 00:13:08,357 --> 00:13:11,230 as this big name company is making everybody return to work 269 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:11,932 and this one isn't. 270 00:13:11,932 --> 00:13:14,131 But what was the article I read recently? 271 00:13:14,131 --> 00:13:18,815 Oh gosh, spotify is not making their people return to work and, 272 00:13:18,815 --> 00:13:21,793 you know, is it going to be a thing. 273 00:13:21,793 --> 00:13:25,731 You know, last time we discussed the pros of coming to 274 00:13:25,751 --> 00:13:27,567 the office and the social interaction, especially as 275 00:13:27,586 --> 00:13:29,815 you're a younger professional. 276 00:13:29,815 --> 00:13:32,734 But yeah, that was something. 277 00:13:37,091 --> 00:13:40,758 Cee Cee: Honestly, I just let the applicants let you know when 278 00:13:40,758 --> 00:13:43,207 it's time, because when you start to have people who are 279 00:13:43,308 --> 00:13:47,197 seeking it, then the pendulum will swing the other direction. 280 00:13:47,476 --> 00:13:48,538 Warren: Absolutely. 281 00:13:50,345 --> 00:13:51,287 Cee Cee: Yeah, and then you'll adapt. 282 00:13:51,287 --> 00:13:54,455 You know, like you can't like mandate it right now, though I 283 00:13:54,495 --> 00:13:55,357 think that's stupid. 284 00:13:56,806 --> 00:14:00,813 Warren: You know I, you know we never had a true where we were 285 00:14:00,854 --> 00:14:03,566 allowed to work certain positions of course, not every 286 00:14:03,606 --> 00:14:07,115 position or engineer, but you can't bring a Navy vessel to 287 00:14:07,135 --> 00:14:10,491 your home to work on and things but you know, certain positions 288 00:14:10,511 --> 00:14:12,176 you were allowed to work up to two days a week. 289 00:14:12,176 --> 00:14:14,568 I stopped that voluntarily, but anyways. 290 00:14:14,568 --> 00:14:16,975 But reading these articles about HR trends and one of them 291 00:14:17,035 --> 00:14:23,095 was from SHRM it made me think why are the writing? 292 00:14:23,095 --> 00:14:25,885 There's nothing groundbreaking that someone who hasn't been in 293 00:14:26,046 --> 00:14:28,609 HR more than six months can't get out of. 294 00:14:28,609 --> 00:14:29,309 Out of this. 295 00:14:29,309 --> 00:14:33,254 This article and these articles and I. 296 00:14:33,254 --> 00:14:35,979 We need a replacement for sean. 297 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:39,931 And yeah, you know, I told you this is a topic I'm going to 298 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:40,812 discuss in a. 299 00:14:40,812 --> 00:14:42,898 I want to dig deeper into at some point. 300 00:14:42,898 --> 00:14:46,090 But but what's out there that can replace hrs? 301 00:14:46,090 --> 00:14:47,692 You know my wife, she does payroll. 302 00:14:47,692 --> 00:14:51,938 They've got like three or four professional organizations for 303 00:14:51,979 --> 00:14:52,639 payroll people. 304 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:56,946 I mean payrollorg formerly the APA is the big one, but there's 305 00:14:57,427 --> 00:15:01,309 several others out there and I think a lot of other professions 306 00:15:01,309 --> 00:15:05,658 have multiple professional organizations out there for 307 00:15:05,677 --> 00:15:06,099 their people. 308 00:15:06,099 --> 00:15:11,898 But HR, we really don't have an alternative to SHRM. 309 00:15:11,898 --> 00:15:16,408 Oh, speaking of which I think I mentioned earlier, I'm going to 310 00:15:16,408 --> 00:15:17,653 the Virginia State SHRM. 311 00:15:17,653 --> 00:15:20,193 I think it's in April or something like that Nice. 312 00:15:21,006 --> 00:15:25,486 The opening keynote speaker is JCT, so I'll try to get a selfie 313 00:15:25,486 --> 00:15:26,587 with him or something. 314 00:15:29,655 --> 00:15:30,097 Cee Cee: Oh boy. 315 00:15:30,490 --> 00:15:34,971 Warren: Actually squirrel brain moment here this state SHRM 316 00:15:35,032 --> 00:15:39,378 council meeting or chapter state annual meeting. 317 00:15:39,378 --> 00:15:47,032 They've limited to only 600 attendees and I've been to every 318 00:15:47,032 --> 00:15:50,034 time in Virginia and I live in North Carolina but I work in 319 00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:54,279 Virginia right across the border but they rotate among five-ish 320 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:54,960 cities. 321 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,344 You know Hampton Roads area, richmond area, washington DC 322 00:15:58,384 --> 00:16:01,211 area, roanoke area and somewhere else I forget where else, but 323 00:16:01,230 --> 00:16:02,115 they rotate among these. 324 00:16:02,115 --> 00:16:04,556 So it comes back to the Hampton Roads, virginia Beach area 325 00:16:04,957 --> 00:16:10,259 every five years or so and I've been to most of the ones in this 326 00:16:10,259 --> 00:16:13,717 area and there's well over. 327 00:16:13,717 --> 00:16:15,956 I don't think I've been to one that has less than 600 people 328 00:16:15,995 --> 00:16:21,042 and I'm thinking why would you limit it to 600 people? 329 00:16:22,513 --> 00:16:25,159 I'm curious to see how that goes . 330 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:25,981 But they're still selling. 331 00:16:25,981 --> 00:16:27,636 I was just checking the other day. 332 00:16:27,636 --> 00:16:31,019 They're still selling packages or whatever. 333 00:16:31,019 --> 00:16:35,539 You can still go if you want to want, so they're not sold out. 334 00:16:35,539 --> 00:16:37,573 But if you're going to be, at the virginia thing charm. 335 00:16:38,417 --> 00:16:41,551 Look, look for me, I'll be, I'll be there and I'll be handing 336 00:16:41,571 --> 00:16:43,153 out some jaded hr cards. 337 00:16:43,153 --> 00:16:44,015 Love it. 338 00:16:44,015 --> 00:16:45,438 Let's see if I could do that. 339 00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:49,474 So anyways, that is, that's something else going. 340 00:16:49,474 --> 00:16:52,220 But oh, I was going also squirrel brain, like I said, the 341 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:56,916 deib I've seen so many articles about and I once again haven't 342 00:16:56,975 --> 00:17:00,482 read 99 of them because most of it's clickbait. 343 00:17:00,482 --> 00:17:03,296 But yeah, you know, this company's getting rid of our 344 00:17:03,336 --> 00:17:06,631 deib program and that company's getting rid of it and I'm like, 345 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:10,778 okay, let's, let's look at it, because a few years ago, when 346 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,633 you know, you know, deib just you know, was everybody's hot 347 00:17:14,673 --> 00:17:15,114 topic. 348 00:17:15,114 --> 00:17:17,097 You know, after, after the George Floyd and the other 349 00:17:17,198 --> 00:17:21,751 social injustice things that were going on, deib hit its. 350 00:17:22,071 --> 00:17:25,997 You know so many consultants putting out so many shitty DEIB 351 00:17:26,076 --> 00:17:26,698 programs. 352 00:17:26,698 --> 00:17:29,801 You know their cookie cutter and I see that you know this 353 00:17:29,862 --> 00:17:31,703 company's axing their DIV. 354 00:17:31,703 --> 00:17:33,165 Are they really axing it? 355 00:17:33,165 --> 00:17:36,451 Are they getting rid of something that they bought on a 356 00:17:36,571 --> 00:17:39,416 whim because they need to do something very topical, to be 357 00:17:40,219 --> 00:17:41,240 what is the right word? 358 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,374 Be cool, I guess, be trendy, because this is what everybody's 359 00:17:45,374 --> 00:17:49,613 focusing on right now and do something, and they got stuck 360 00:17:49,953 --> 00:17:52,161 into some shitty program. 361 00:17:52,161 --> 00:17:55,500 I've actually seen some really bad. 362 00:17:55,500 --> 00:18:00,458 Yeah, they're done by these keynote speakers that have 363 00:18:00,538 --> 00:18:05,978 something cool to offer and to sell to you, but I don't buy it. 364 00:18:05,978 --> 00:18:07,574 Once again, I'm not reading all those articles. 365 00:18:07,835 --> 00:18:08,236 Cee Cee: Yeah. 366 00:18:08,557 --> 00:18:10,061 Warren: They're kickbait, Kill it bait. 367 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:12,010 Cee Cee: I like the ones. 368 00:18:12,010 --> 00:18:12,270 What was it? 369 00:18:12,270 --> 00:18:14,334 I think it was Costco who was like no, what was it? 370 00:18:14,334 --> 00:18:17,917 I think it was Costco who was like no, we're keeping it, we're 371 00:18:17,917 --> 00:18:20,141 keeping DEIB. 372 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:22,284 And I think their reasoning. 373 00:18:22,284 --> 00:18:25,769 Well, according to the article, allegedly it was one of those 374 00:18:25,809 --> 00:18:28,336 things that came up in board meetings and they're like no, 375 00:18:28,356 --> 00:18:30,872 this is important to our people, we're keeping it, we're keeping 376 00:18:30,872 --> 00:18:36,083 DEI and we are keeping 150 hot dogs, like that's it. 377 00:18:36,083 --> 00:18:39,699 And I was like that's nice, I like that. 378 00:18:39,699 --> 00:18:40,622 That's a fun article. 379 00:18:41,832 --> 00:18:46,518 Warren: Yeah, yeah, and there's nothing wrong with ditching a 380 00:18:46,577 --> 00:18:50,713 program that isn't working, or not ditching it, but replacing 381 00:18:50,794 --> 00:18:54,942 it and saying, okay, we just tried this vendor and it's not 382 00:18:54,962 --> 00:18:55,163 working. 383 00:18:55,163 --> 00:18:58,398 Or maybe it's working, fine, but you can do better. 384 00:18:58,398 --> 00:18:59,342 I found something better. 385 00:18:59,342 --> 00:19:03,500 There's always something shinier somewhere else. 386 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:06,337 And so I read all these articles. 387 00:19:06,337 --> 00:19:09,135 I'm thinking, yeah, are they really getting rid of it or are 388 00:19:09,155 --> 00:19:13,325 they just readjusting, know, retargeting? 389 00:19:13,325 --> 00:19:16,354 I can't see all these companies I, I ladder. 390 00:19:16,494 --> 00:19:18,923 Cee Cee: I hope it's not companies just getting rid of it 391 00:19:18,923 --> 00:19:19,686 , because they don't. 392 00:19:19,686 --> 00:19:22,214 I mean, I'm sure there are, I'm sure there are companies out 393 00:19:22,234 --> 00:19:23,458 there, yeah like. 394 00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:25,310 I'm sure there are companies who are like we're not doing 395 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:29,096 that anymore by, yeah, like, but I hope it I hope it would be 396 00:19:29,136 --> 00:19:34,105 the latter that there's just more of a refocus, yeah. 397 00:19:35,211 --> 00:19:36,877 Warren: I don't know. 398 00:19:36,877 --> 00:19:43,125 You know SHRM drops the E or what do they drop? 399 00:19:43,125 --> 00:19:43,267 Equity? 400 00:19:43,267 --> 00:19:43,630 I can't remember. 401 00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:46,577 Yeah, didn't SHRM drop the equity. 402 00:19:46,577 --> 00:19:50,817 Or I forget what letter they drop, but out of their DEIB or 403 00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:53,122 what they're teaching or what they're doing. 404 00:19:53,122 --> 00:19:58,219 But you know, maybe they're buying into that garbage. 405 00:19:59,881 --> 00:20:01,664 Cee Cee: Yeah, I don't know. 406 00:20:01,664 --> 00:20:05,757 Well, I don't know, Because Johnny C Taylor man, like he's 407 00:20:05,777 --> 00:20:09,853 just a future politician, Like that's just so. 408 00:20:09,853 --> 00:20:11,117 I don't trust anything. 409 00:20:11,117 --> 00:20:12,432 You know what I'm saying. 410 00:20:12,432 --> 00:20:15,336 Like I don't Any decision that comes like that out of Sherm. 411 00:20:15,336 --> 00:20:20,284 Now I'm like just so jaded about Sherm, you know, I'm like 412 00:20:20,304 --> 00:20:24,415 I don't know, he's just trying to run for office somewhere, 413 00:20:24,435 --> 00:20:25,522 Like that's just his, that's his end game. 414 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:31,079 Warren: And that's exactly why I think we need an alternative to 415 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:36,794 Sherm, and I actually did go down a little bit of a rabbit 416 00:20:36,814 --> 00:20:38,056 hole and I couldn't find anything. 417 00:20:38,076 --> 00:20:42,392 There are other HR organizations , tiny, unknown, you know things 418 00:20:42,392 --> 00:20:45,140 that you know I'm not going to give my money to or anything 419 00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:49,576 like that, but yeah, there is an anything out there. 420 00:20:49,576 --> 00:20:53,403 So hey, if you've got an idea for an alternative to SHRM, let 421 00:20:53,443 --> 00:20:53,723 us know. 422 00:20:53,723 --> 00:20:56,278 Well, I'm going to save it for the episode. 423 00:20:56,278 --> 00:20:59,396 I do have one organization that's out there that might be 424 00:20:59,436 --> 00:20:59,778 able to. 425 00:20:59,778 --> 00:21:02,202 That seems to be making a little bit of a headway towards 426 00:21:02,222 --> 00:21:02,343 that. 427 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:05,413 I don't know if it's their goal or not, but anyways. 428 00:21:05,413 --> 00:21:10,063 So two social media stories. 429 00:21:10,063 --> 00:21:17,050 Well, first one is social media the TikTok ban TikTok ban that 430 00:21:17,071 --> 00:21:18,008 lasted a whopping seven hours. 431 00:21:18,509 --> 00:21:20,375 Cee Cee: I'm like I'm not cool enough to be on TikTok. 432 00:21:21,459 --> 00:21:22,141 Warren: See, I'm not. 433 00:21:22,141 --> 00:21:26,978 My wife lives on TikTok and I'll go ahead and say it. 434 00:21:26,978 --> 00:21:29,997 Most of the people she watch are like human debris on parade. 435 00:21:31,059 --> 00:21:31,440 Cee Cee: Oh yeah. 436 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,372 Warren: They're just You're only doing TikTok because you're 437 00:21:37,392 --> 00:21:38,134 unemployable otherwise. 438 00:21:38,134 --> 00:21:43,989 But she showed me this video of this lady and she's literally 439 00:21:44,108 --> 00:21:44,851 lost her shit. 440 00:21:44,851 --> 00:21:49,800 She's like in a frantic state of psychosis about the tiktok 441 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,954 ban about to happen and you know she's gonna lose. 442 00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:53,497 I looked at her. 443 00:21:53,497 --> 00:21:59,053 She has like okay, she has like 150,000 followers, more than we 444 00:21:59,053 --> 00:22:01,681 have, listeners and you know whatever 100. 445 00:22:01,681 --> 00:22:03,035 But at 150,000. 446 00:22:03,109 --> 00:22:03,854 Cee Cee: We can change that. 447 00:22:03,894 --> 00:22:07,815 Andrew Quilpa: listeners you can follow us, just follow us on 448 00:22:07,875 --> 00:22:08,597 all social media. 449 00:22:12,271 --> 00:22:15,378 Warren: You're not making buku dollars, that this should is 450 00:22:15,419 --> 00:22:18,492 probably a full-time job if you're you're, you've only got 451 00:22:18,512 --> 00:22:20,196 150 000 followers. 452 00:22:20,196 --> 00:22:22,642 You know that that's a great huge number. 453 00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:27,939 But yeah, you're, you know and you know, and judging by 454 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:30,544 everything else she was doing, she's, like that, unemployable 455 00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:31,251 otherwise. 456 00:22:31,251 --> 00:22:35,112 But now tiktok's back and I think they they put a. 457 00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:39,060 The new administration, leaving things apolitical, has put a 75 458 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:39,541 day. 459 00:22:39,541 --> 00:22:41,913 They're going to revisit it in 75 days. 460 00:22:41,913 --> 00:22:44,200 What to what to do with tiktok. 461 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,874 But yeah, people were literally losing their minds over losing 462 00:22:49,933 --> 00:22:50,454 tikt. 463 00:22:51,436 --> 00:22:56,170 Cee Cee: Wow, we really, as a society as a whole, we really 464 00:22:56,412 --> 00:23:02,480 just are a little too connected to our social media In a bad way 465 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,442 Obsessed. 466 00:23:03,442 --> 00:23:09,454 Also, half of these people I see on TikTok, I go down weird 467 00:23:09,494 --> 00:23:09,997 rabbit holes. 468 00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:11,674 Now, this is my hobby. 469 00:23:11,674 --> 00:23:16,217 I'm on the YouTube train and I just, wherever YouTube takes me, 470 00:23:16,217 --> 00:23:19,578 I go, which is now like my algorithm on there. 471 00:23:19,578 --> 00:23:21,877 It brings me to like what is it ? 472 00:23:21,877 --> 00:23:26,643 Like commenters or something, and they just like talk about 473 00:23:26,782 --> 00:23:29,590 different things in social media and a lot of it is like toxic 474 00:23:30,632 --> 00:23:35,855 social media influencers and I'm like how are these people 475 00:23:35,895 --> 00:23:37,797 making more money than we are? 476 00:23:37,797 --> 00:23:41,038 Just how, like? 477 00:23:41,038 --> 00:23:43,922 I don't know, there's a kid that just like crashed his 478 00:23:44,082 --> 00:23:47,763 Maserati or some crap and then he had to like I don't know, and 479 00:23:47,763 --> 00:23:48,345 I'm just sitting there. 480 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:51,987 I'm like this is stupid, like everyone, why? 481 00:23:51,987 --> 00:23:56,951 Anyway, no, I feel like I need a detox off of social media for 482 00:23:56,991 --> 00:23:58,355 a while, but that's where I'm. 483 00:23:58,355 --> 00:23:59,096 I don't know. 484 00:23:59,096 --> 00:24:01,471 It's so hard because now it's part of your everyday life. 485 00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:03,776 Warren: It's hard it is, it's hard. 486 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:05,038 I'm, I'm doing much better. 487 00:24:05,038 --> 00:24:09,634 I'm I'm spending less time on Facebook, I'm using Instagram a 488 00:24:09,734 --> 00:24:12,922 little bit more and because I'm, it's, it's like I'm getting I'm 489 00:24:12,922 --> 00:24:14,180 getting a different same meta company. 490 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:15,461 I know, but I'm getting a different same meta company, I 491 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,085 know, but I'm getting a different algorithm of posts of 492 00:24:18,305 --> 00:24:22,470 people I don't follow and it's, it doesn't feel as toxic, it 493 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:25,781 doesn't feel, as you know, I don't get the political garbage 494 00:24:26,049 --> 00:24:29,259 I you know, that's all over Facebook and things like that. 495 00:24:29,691 --> 00:24:34,911 But in speaking of YouTube, there's two hobbies I have that 496 00:24:35,614 --> 00:24:38,895 I follow a lot of YouTubers on and I'm getting to the point 497 00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:43,895 where I don't want to follow them as much anymore because 498 00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:45,098 they're hocking something. 499 00:24:45,098 --> 00:24:50,334 And you know, the two things are homebrewing and off-road 500 00:24:50,374 --> 00:24:52,240 driving and you know everybody's . 501 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,991 And you follow my affiliate link in the bottom and I'm like, 502 00:24:54,991 --> 00:24:57,538 okay, great, but tell me what you really. 503 00:24:57,538 --> 00:24:59,613 If you're trying to tell me something, tell me about what 504 00:24:59,653 --> 00:25:01,880 you really think, even though they say, oh, this is a I'm not 505 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,473 paid for to my opinion and I can . 506 00:25:03,473 --> 00:25:05,980 They gave me this free and I can say what I want about it. 507 00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:06,691 Like, no, they didn't. 508 00:25:06,691 --> 00:25:09,817 You know, you want to keep the gravy train going. 509 00:25:09,817 --> 00:25:13,584 So, yeah, I'm gonna get to say, you know, this sucks and things 510 00:25:13,584 --> 00:25:16,336 like that, when, like every second or third video is just 511 00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:19,412 blatantly hawking something when I want to see, you know, I want 512 00:25:19,412 --> 00:25:21,323 to see these off-road trails that I want to go on. 513 00:25:21,323 --> 00:25:24,294 You know, I'm planning another trip to Utah to see my daughter 514 00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:27,089 and I'm going to be taking my truck and I'm trying to figure 515 00:25:27,130 --> 00:25:29,375 out where I want to go off-roading while I'm in Utah, 516 00:25:29,494 --> 00:25:30,155 except for Moab. 517 00:25:30,155 --> 00:25:30,836 I will not do. 518 00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:32,559 Moab is you know? 519 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:38,258 Yeah, it's, it's very special people in Moab in the off-road 520 00:25:38,278 --> 00:25:38,719 community. 521 00:25:38,719 --> 00:25:42,492 So anyways, everybody wants to go there, been there, done that 522 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:44,336 and not going back. 523 00:25:44,336 --> 00:25:49,151 But home brewers are a lot less , because I guess there's a lot 524 00:25:49,191 --> 00:25:52,298 less, you know, money maybe in it, but or maybe it's just the 525 00:25:52,339 --> 00:25:55,096 mix of people I'm watching but I'm not getting as much. 526 00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:57,818 They recommend this product, they recommend that product. 527 00:25:57,818 --> 00:26:00,018 I buy this or I don't buy that. 528 00:26:00,018 --> 00:26:04,751 On the other side of my monitor here is my brewing station and 529 00:26:04,872 --> 00:26:07,240 I've not brewed anything in a very long time. 530 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:17,570 The word influencer has such a negative connotation to me when 531 00:26:17,691 --> 00:26:19,936 someone describes themselves as an influencer. 532 00:26:19,936 --> 00:26:22,403 I just why? 533 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:24,075 Cee Cee: Well, don't you think highly of yourself? 534 00:26:25,378 --> 00:26:28,056 Warren: Yeah, I have the right opinion, you know. 535 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,162 Andrew Quilpa: I'm special. 536 00:26:31,412 --> 00:26:34,661 Warren: I know more than you about this and things like that. 537 00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:36,957 Go back to keeping up speakers again. 538 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:38,441 Cee Cee: Seriously. 539 00:26:39,512 --> 00:26:40,917 Warren: These people are in the HR world. 540 00:26:40,917 --> 00:26:44,855 I don't follow anybody on YouTube anymore on HR related 541 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:50,664 because that just I think I still think I have baked. 542 00:26:50,664 --> 00:26:54,836 Hr Ladies, you haven't put a video out in forever, oh yeah. 543 00:26:54,836 --> 00:26:56,401 You haven't put a video out in forever. 544 00:26:56,401 --> 00:26:57,970 Get another one out, but we haven't. 545 00:26:57,970 --> 00:27:02,838 You know I unsubscribe from everything because they were 546 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:04,823 garbage and a lot of. 547 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:09,558 You know touchy feely, do your best and oh, this is. 548 00:27:09,558 --> 00:27:13,096 You know what you have to do, not your your advice. 549 00:27:13,096 --> 00:27:16,031 Advice, it doesn't resonate with so was. 550 00:27:16,071 --> 00:27:21,840 Cee Cee: Was the keynote speaker for this three letter company. 551 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,871 Was it someone well known or was it just like? 552 00:27:25,372 --> 00:27:27,155 Warren: okay, okay, I'd never heard she. 553 00:27:27,155 --> 00:27:29,779 You know it, never. 554 00:27:29,779 --> 00:27:33,515 And that's one thing you know, every I've been going to this 555 00:27:33,575 --> 00:27:34,497 for online. 556 00:27:34,497 --> 00:27:37,601 They do it once or twice a year and the first thing I do is I 557 00:27:37,641 --> 00:27:38,609 look at the list of presenters. 558 00:27:38,609 --> 00:27:41,093 There's only one name I recognize and I was like, eh, I 559 00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:42,337 can take it or leave it. 560 00:27:42,337 --> 00:27:46,176 And then I a list of presenters and then I say, okay, I could 561 00:27:46,196 --> 00:27:46,719 take it or leave it. 562 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:50,531 But you know, people I really like and enjoy have been 563 00:27:50,571 --> 00:27:50,932 presenters. 564 00:27:50,932 --> 00:27:53,713 Kate Bischoff has been one of their presenters before. 565 00:27:53,713 --> 00:27:57,234 John Hyman has David Miklas, I think. 566 00:27:57,234 --> 00:28:00,136 A lot of people that I do enjoy following. 567 00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:05,460 And you know, if I see Kate Bischoff or John Hyman as a 568 00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,980 presenter in a seminar, I'm probably going to attend their 569 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,643 session, their little breakout session, because I know what I'm 570 00:28:10,643 --> 00:28:13,683 getting, yeah, and I'm going to enjoy it. 571 00:28:13,683 --> 00:28:18,126 And they don't pander to their audiences but this whole thing. 572 00:28:18,126 --> 00:28:23,730 Anyways, but squirrel brain all day today it's the snow, it's 573 00:28:23,769 --> 00:28:25,310 the snow, it's the snow. 574 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:30,902 Where I was going, did you see the instance of the Philadelphia 575 00:28:30,902 --> 00:28:35,989 Eagles fan and the Green Bay Packer fan their interaction no, 576 00:28:35,989 --> 00:28:37,673 so I read it. 577 00:28:37,753 --> 00:28:39,679 Cee Cee: I didn't see the interaction, though, like I got 578 00:28:39,719 --> 00:28:42,326 the gist of it, but I didn't hear. 579 00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:47,075 Warren: Video myself, okay but there's been so much written 580 00:28:47,115 --> 00:28:52,280 about it and okay, philadelphia is well known for having some of 581 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,326 the rowdiest, toughest, meanest fans around. 582 00:28:56,346 --> 00:28:59,858 Cee Cee: Yeah, don't they have a jail in the stadium for that. 583 00:29:00,832 --> 00:29:03,457 Warren: I understand they're old , Maybe I don't know if the new 584 00:29:03,538 --> 00:29:05,930 one does, but the old stadium did indeed have. 585 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:10,902 I saw something online that it did have a jail in the old 586 00:29:11,241 --> 00:29:11,542 stadium. 587 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,839 I don't know if the new stadium has that or not. 588 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,657 I would guess it would because it's a bigger stadium. 589 00:29:16,657 --> 00:29:18,457 They're going to have more problems with it. 590 00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:25,020 But on video this guy is caught dropping the C word onto this 591 00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:32,895 Green Bay Packer female fan, See and classy, and on top of it he 592 00:29:32,895 --> 00:29:35,942 works for a DEI firm. 593 00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:37,304 That was his job. 594 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:39,714 Cee Cee: Get out of here. 595 00:29:40,455 --> 00:29:40,757 Warren: No. 596 00:29:41,338 --> 00:29:42,141 Cee Cee: The irony. 597 00:29:42,161 --> 00:29:44,748 Warren: He worked for. 598 00:29:46,791 --> 00:29:47,997 Cee Cee: He got one job, dude. 599 00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:53,118 Warren: And yeah, and you're in. 600 00:29:53,118 --> 00:29:57,971 Well, get this. 601 00:29:57,971 --> 00:29:59,394 And I think this came from john hyman or eric marr, I don't 602 00:29:59,414 --> 00:29:59,675 remember. 603 00:29:59,675 --> 00:30:01,201 I want to give credit, but I don't remember who exactly said 604 00:30:01,221 --> 00:30:01,260 it. 605 00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:06,953 The man issued an apology and in his apology it was taken out 606 00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:07,535 context. 607 00:30:07,535 --> 00:30:12,900 How do you take calling someone a cunt out of context? 608 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:20,346 I don't think there's a way to put that in context in any way. 609 00:30:20,346 --> 00:30:25,721 And also, in his quote-unquote apology, he says that he was 610 00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:30,240 provoked and, like you know, you're this big dude, macho dude 611 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,300 , you're going to let this lady provoke you into this. 612 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:39,141 I just yeah, there were so many things wrong. 613 00:30:39,141 --> 00:30:42,038 Actually, see, if I can, that's hilarious. 614 00:30:42,038 --> 00:30:44,499 But yeah, I wish I could give credit to. 615 00:30:44,499 --> 00:30:48,730 It's one of the daily newsletters I subscribe to and 616 00:30:48,951 --> 00:30:52,161 it was either John Hyman or Eric Meyer. 617 00:30:52,161 --> 00:30:55,069 So I'm sorry, whoever, whoever it is, but not giving proper 618 00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:59,720 credit, but yeah it why? 619 00:30:59,779 --> 00:31:03,468 Cee Cee: why do people uh like and I'm okay, I'm honestly with 620 00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:06,734 this like I know some people are very upset with like, oh, you 621 00:31:06,755 --> 00:31:07,897 shouldn't get people fired. 622 00:31:07,897 --> 00:31:12,015 But I know, because if that's how you behave outside, then 623 00:31:12,035 --> 00:31:13,779 that's how you behave inside the office. 624 00:31:13,779 --> 00:31:15,048 And you know what? 625 00:31:15,048 --> 00:31:17,137 I'm okay with a little public humiliation. 626 00:31:17,137 --> 00:31:20,096 If you're going to behave like an idiot, you get to. 627 00:31:20,477 --> 00:31:24,884 Warren: You got to be yeah, to be publicly scorned yeah, and 628 00:31:25,145 --> 00:31:30,894 now that you know, his chances of getting another job are like. 629 00:31:30,894 --> 00:31:33,184 I forget his name, but it's out there and all they have to do 630 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:37,124 is google his name and you can say what he did and what he's 631 00:31:37,163 --> 00:31:43,259 famous for now and he's gonna he's gonna have some back office 632 00:31:43,259 --> 00:31:46,287 there's anything wrong, but he's not to be forward-facing 633 00:31:46,487 --> 00:31:50,132 anywhere for the next many years when he's going to have Klein 634 00:31:50,152 --> 00:31:51,201 in our church, hell or the? 635 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:53,586 Dude who at the football game? 636 00:31:53,586 --> 00:31:54,949 Yeah, yeah, no. 637 00:31:56,192 --> 00:31:57,094 Cee Cee: He'll be fine. 638 00:31:57,094 --> 00:31:59,808 He'll find something, just not in DEI, he'll be fine. 639 00:32:01,901 --> 00:32:03,227 Warren: What's the opposite of DEI? 640 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,521 Cee Cee: Oh, my God. 641 00:32:04,682 --> 00:32:09,273 Warren: Yeah, I just thought that was crazy, that he, you 642 00:32:09,294 --> 00:32:13,851 know, but it's social media and you know, going back, I have 643 00:32:13,891 --> 00:32:16,326 freedom of speech, you have freedom of speech, but you don't 644 00:32:16,326 --> 00:32:19,468 have also, you don't have freedom of consequences for your 645 00:32:19,468 --> 00:32:19,689 speech. 646 00:32:19,689 --> 00:32:23,943 So if you're out there and you're saying this, and it's not 647 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:26,111 against the government, so you can't even claim that. 648 00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:31,200 I'm glad that important border dropped him like a bad habit. 649 00:32:33,171 --> 00:32:37,991 Cee Cee: There was one recently another story where this woman 650 00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:41,063 was just doing a TikTok and she was just like blah, blah, blah, 651 00:32:41,083 --> 00:32:41,590 like I don't know. 652 00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:46,567 She was mixing, making some food and talking like through a 653 00:32:46,586 --> 00:32:49,346 tutorial and she dropped the N-word a few times. 654 00:32:49,346 --> 00:32:54,388 Oh, and she's a white woman and she just like dropped the 655 00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:57,545 N-word a couple times and I think people were just like, 656 00:32:58,125 --> 00:32:59,932 excuse me, like what? 657 00:32:59,932 --> 00:33:06,929 And the company that she worked for is owned by a black woman 658 00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:15,247 and she got fired real fast, like real fast well, I thought 659 00:33:15,267 --> 00:33:16,229 you were going to go this one. 660 00:33:16,269 --> 00:33:17,770 Warren: This came out just the other day. 661 00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:23,787 A flight attendant for alaska airlines was fired for filming a 662 00:33:23,787 --> 00:33:29,260 dance in her Airways uniform her Alaska Airways uniform and 663 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,851 her response was what's wrong with a little twerk before work? 664 00:33:32,851 --> 00:33:39,567 I pulled up the article right now A poet, you can do all the 665 00:33:39,587 --> 00:33:41,633 twerking before work you want to do. 666 00:33:41,633 --> 00:33:44,612 Maybe not do it in your uniform . 667 00:33:44,612 --> 00:33:47,486 Yeah, and here's the first comment on this article. 668 00:33:47,486 --> 00:33:51,125 I found You're in uniform, and then they said A you're in 669 00:33:51,205 --> 00:33:51,548 uniform. 670 00:33:51,548 --> 00:33:53,086 B a GoFundMe. 671 00:33:53,086 --> 00:33:55,846 Seriously, and apparently I haven't read this version of the 672 00:33:55,846 --> 00:33:56,249 article. 673 00:33:56,249 --> 00:34:00,729 Oh yeah, she started a GoFundMe where, as of January 19th, 674 00:34:00,808 --> 00:34:03,134 she's raised $2,600. 675 00:34:03,134 --> 00:34:09,425 And her response was what's wrong with a little work, a 676 00:34:09,445 --> 00:34:09,806 twerk before work? 677 00:34:09,806 --> 00:34:11,853 She continued the caption people act like they never did 678 00:34:11,893 --> 00:34:12,576 that before. 679 00:34:12,576 --> 00:34:16,304 And then the hashtags fyp, flight attendant life 680 00:34:16,985 --> 00:34:20,992 discrimination is real discrimination okay, but okay, I 681 00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:21,454 have quite. 682 00:34:21,514 --> 00:34:23,945 Cee Cee: I have follow-up questions because I've seen 683 00:34:24,487 --> 00:34:30,782 other airlines and other people post their quirky videos. 684 00:34:30,782 --> 00:34:35,454 They'll go viral and there's no like, whatever. 685 00:34:35,454 --> 00:34:40,246 So my question is what was the nature of the dancing and was 686 00:34:40,286 --> 00:34:42,293 like provocative, was it like? 687 00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:43,135 I don't know. 688 00:34:43,135 --> 00:34:46,983 I have quite I need to understand why Alaskan Airlines 689 00:34:47,023 --> 00:34:50,347 decided to fire this employee when it seems like other 690 00:34:50,407 --> 00:34:53,351 employees of other airlines can do things in their uniform that 691 00:34:53,391 --> 00:34:54,313 are fun and quirky. 692 00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:57,525 Warren: Okay, I just tried to click the link to the video 693 00:34:57,565 --> 00:34:59,068 which I have not seen before. 694 00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:00,271 Cee Cee: I know Now. 695 00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:03,465 Warren: I'm warning this post may not be comfortable for some 696 00:35:03,626 --> 00:35:04,108 audiences. 697 00:35:04,349 --> 00:35:05,311 Andrew Quilpa: You must log in. 698 00:35:06,621 --> 00:35:10,492 Warren: So apparently maybe it's a little inappropriate. 699 00:35:10,492 --> 00:35:15,291 I don't have a TikTok account available on my computer to 700 00:35:15,371 --> 00:35:18,007 check it out, but Google twerk before work. 701 00:35:18,007 --> 00:35:22,369 I'm sure you can find it and see what the nature of that 702 00:35:22,909 --> 00:35:23,610 video is. 703 00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:24,793 So boy. 704 00:35:25,681 --> 00:35:27,028 Cee Cee: I'm like now I got a. 705 00:35:27,028 --> 00:35:27,873 This is live. 706 00:35:27,873 --> 00:35:30,844 This is this right, here is live, live research. 707 00:35:30,844 --> 00:35:33,891 I don't know. 708 00:35:33,891 --> 00:35:38,061 I see that's working, I see the beauty shaking. 709 00:35:38,061 --> 00:35:42,931 I don't think it's a fireable offense, I'm just gonna say it. 710 00:35:42,931 --> 00:35:44,661 I don't know if I would have fired her. 711 00:35:44,681 --> 00:35:46,748 Warren: Yeah so I I don't know well, whatever, I'm just going 712 00:35:46,788 --> 00:35:47,009 to say it. 713 00:35:47,009 --> 00:35:48,351 I don't know if I would have fired her. 714 00:35:48,351 --> 00:35:48,813 Yeah, so I don't know. 715 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:50,858 Well, whatever, I'm not going to. 716 00:35:50,858 --> 00:35:55,659 Okay, this is, as I haven't seen the video once again On 717 00:35:55,699 --> 00:35:59,425 November 17th, the then flight attendant posted a TikTok, a 718 00:35:59,465 --> 00:36:02,490 video to TikTok, in which she danced and, in her own words, 719 00:36:02,590 --> 00:36:04,894 twerked in the aisles of an empty airplane. 720 00:36:04,894 --> 00:36:12,827 Her own words twerked in the aisles of an empty airplane and 721 00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:14,873 she used I'll quoting her here please, people, ghetto, bit till 722 00:36:14,873 --> 00:36:16,597 I die, don't let the uniform fool you is what you're saying. 723 00:36:16,617 --> 00:36:20,123 So yeah, the caption yeah, so maybe the verbiage, but anyways 724 00:36:20,144 --> 00:36:22,467 yeah I don't know. 725 00:36:22,568 --> 00:36:25,293 Cee Cee: This is why I don't do real HR. 726 00:36:25,293 --> 00:36:27,295 This is why I'm in talent management. 727 00:36:30,686 --> 00:36:32,711 Warren: Oh no, Talent management is real HR, but anyways. 728 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,882 Cee Cee: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 729 00:36:33,882 --> 00:36:37,530 No, I'm just, I don't do employee relations or anything 730 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:38,012 like that. 731 00:36:39,481 --> 00:36:42,027 Warren: You know, I just also got to think have fun, do what 732 00:36:42,047 --> 00:36:43,050 you want to do on. 733 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:47,355 I mean, I'm sure Alaska airlines probably got dozens of 734 00:36:47,615 --> 00:36:51,150 uh only plans people on their in their roster but they're not 735 00:36:51,311 --> 00:36:52,315 doing their stuff in their. 736 00:36:52,315 --> 00:36:54,963 This is their uniform, things like that. 737 00:36:55,583 --> 00:36:59,170 Cee Cee: Yeah, you never know what people are even hey, even 738 00:36:59,231 --> 00:37:06,148 hooters has very strong rules about their uniform oh gosh, too 739 00:37:06,148 --> 00:37:06,768 many jokes. 740 00:37:06,768 --> 00:37:12,061 Get me canceled quickly no, like, apparently it's a real 741 00:37:12,121 --> 00:37:14,867 thing, like if you work at hooters, you are not allowed to 742 00:37:14,907 --> 00:37:18,266 wear your uniform outside of work and if you are photographed 743 00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:20,980 wearing your uniform outside of work, you will be terminated 744 00:37:23,081 --> 00:37:26,965 yeah, okay, well, I, I I can see the logic behind that. 745 00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:29,887 Warren: If you're you know you could be representing the 746 00:37:29,927 --> 00:37:32,208 company in your social media inappropriate. 747 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:39,293 I mean, you know Hooters used to be so provocative and now 748 00:37:39,373 --> 00:37:41,356 it's tame, you know. 749 00:37:42,675 --> 00:37:43,117 Cee Cee: Yeah. 750 00:37:44,077 --> 00:37:44,277 Warren: Yeah. 751 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,447 Cee Cee: I'm a sucker for some good wings. 752 00:37:46,447 --> 00:37:49,501 I'm sorry'm sorry like I'm not being a very good feminist, but 753 00:37:49,561 --> 00:37:54,155 I really like wings have you ever done a birthday party there 754 00:37:54,155 --> 00:37:55,340 into a birthday party? 755 00:37:56,282 --> 00:38:02,331 Warren: no some things they do I know, I know hot dogs and I was 756 00:38:02,331 --> 00:38:02,913 just watching. 757 00:38:02,913 --> 00:38:05,143 I wasn't part of this birthday party, but I was just there 758 00:38:05,623 --> 00:38:08,690 eating some wings, watching football and watching someone 759 00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:10,152 else do this thing. 760 00:38:10,172 --> 00:38:12,179 Cee Cee: So anyways, I got to be honest. 761 00:38:12,179 --> 00:38:15,987 For a while I was very intrigued with the whole Hooters 762 00:38:15,987 --> 00:38:21,721 employment stuff because they do so many practices, because I 763 00:38:21,762 --> 00:38:24,951 know a few women who have worked in Hooters their past life. 764 00:38:24,951 --> 00:38:29,541 But they do weigh-ins, they do this, they do that and I'm like, 765 00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:31,068 how do they get away with that? 766 00:38:31,068 --> 00:38:34,637 And interesting fact, and I'm not sure if it's still true 767 00:38:34,657 --> 00:38:38,891 today, but apparently at one point they hired entertainer. 768 00:38:38,891 --> 00:38:43,661 Like they're classified as entertainers, not servers, so 769 00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:49,431 that's how they can get away with like doing weigh-ins and 770 00:38:49,492 --> 00:38:51,440 like making sure you're not like it's so. 771 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,811 Oh, like it's a, it was a, I've heard it's a very toxic 772 00:38:55,871 --> 00:39:00,523 environment I, I can only imagine you know anyways. 773 00:39:02,065 --> 00:39:05,710 Warren: But yeah, yes, social media is the devil and people 774 00:39:05,771 --> 00:39:08,074 who I enjoy social media to a certain degree. 775 00:39:08,074 --> 00:39:09,326 I'm trying to wean myself. 776 00:39:09,326 --> 00:39:11,347 Like I said earlier, I'm doing much better. 777 00:39:11,347 --> 00:39:14,583 I'm spending so much less time on Facebook, I'm spending a wee 778 00:39:14,643 --> 00:39:17,228 bit more time on Instagram, but a wee bit more than what I was 779 00:39:17,329 --> 00:39:23,211 is not much, and I'm trying to slowly wean myself off of it. 780 00:39:23,211 --> 00:39:30,713 So I think that will, unless you have anything else you want 781 00:39:30,753 --> 00:39:31,574 to cover today. 782 00:39:32,179 --> 00:39:35,987 Cee Cee: No, honestly, I don't know if I mentioned this before, 783 00:39:35,987 --> 00:39:37,791 but I don't think I did so. 784 00:39:37,791 --> 00:39:41,163 Last week we everyone in the family got COVID. 785 00:39:41,163 --> 00:39:47,873 So it started with my mom, who then, like, gave it to my dad 786 00:39:47,952 --> 00:39:49,295 and their child care. 787 00:39:49,295 --> 00:39:53,141 So then we went one week without child care and then, 788 00:39:53,503 --> 00:39:57,791 right when they were starting to feel better, I got the COVID 789 00:39:58,052 --> 00:39:59,034 and Kevin got it. 790 00:39:59,034 --> 00:40:03,971 And then, luckily, the baby did not get it. 791 00:40:03,971 --> 00:40:08,487 Baby, and if she was, she was asymptomatic, but nope, she was 792 00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:10,731 asymptomatic but nope, she was just nope. 793 00:40:10,731 --> 00:40:11,612 Knock on wood. 794 00:40:11,612 --> 00:40:17,503 I don't know how we got out, I don't know how we survived 795 00:40:17,523 --> 00:40:19,467 without her getting sick, but yeah, so I am just kind of in a 796 00:40:19,527 --> 00:40:23,753 space of I'm feeling better and I'm trying to catch up on work 797 00:40:23,813 --> 00:40:24,996 that I missed and I survived. 798 00:40:24,996 --> 00:40:26,559 That's where I'm trying to catch up on work that I missed 799 00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:26,978 and I survived. 800 00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,202 Warren: That's where I'm at Knock on wood. 801 00:40:31,202 --> 00:40:34,925 I haven't had COVID since I don't know in a few. 802 00:40:34,925 --> 00:40:39,086 I had it one time and it was moderately mild case of it, but 803 00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:40,108 I do. 804 00:40:40,108 --> 00:40:43,170 I'm still getting my COVID shot . 805 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:46,793 You know, I just told my doctor when I went at the end of 806 00:40:46,972 --> 00:40:47,413 December. 807 00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:51,335 I said look, if you recommend it I'll do it, Otherwise I don't 808 00:40:51,335 --> 00:40:52,436 care one way or the other. 809 00:40:52,436 --> 00:40:53,657 And she recommended it, so I got it. 810 00:40:53,657 --> 00:40:54,277 And what happens? 811 00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:56,063 Every time I get COVID shot? 812 00:40:56,063 --> 00:40:57,867 I burn a fever for like two days. 813 00:40:58,208 --> 00:41:01,782 Oh yeah, I feel like crap and I still haven't fully recovered 814 00:41:01,822 --> 00:41:02,003 from it. 815 00:41:02,003 --> 00:41:05,509 I still get you know, a little is I just feel like crap for a 816 00:41:05,568 --> 00:41:08,713 couple of days and then like I just had some lingering 817 00:41:08,753 --> 00:41:14,164 congestion and stuff, but yeah so oh no, I got it and I got 818 00:41:14,184 --> 00:41:15,248 knocked on my ass. 819 00:41:16,922 --> 00:41:20,612 Cee Cee: Oh every, every single symptom you could have gotten. 820 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:24,710 I gotten especially everything down to, like the nose and this 821 00:41:24,811 --> 00:41:26,382 taste, and oh my God it was. 822 00:41:26,382 --> 00:41:31,083 It was 48 hours of just death and then I rebounded pretty fast 823 00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:31,083 . 824 00:41:31,264 --> 00:41:33,969 Warren: But yeah, okay, but we got it. 825 00:41:33,969 --> 00:41:39,987 Oh Sorry, sorry to hear that. 826 00:41:39,987 --> 00:41:43,108 Well, you should be good for a couple years before you get it 827 00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:43,751 again, right? 828 00:41:44,641 --> 00:41:45,907 Cee Cee: I get it every year, Warren. 829 00:41:45,907 --> 00:41:47,994 Oh, really, I have get it every year warren oh really, I have 830 00:41:48,036 --> 00:41:51,708 gotten it every year since 2022. 831 00:41:51,708 --> 00:41:54,434 Like, okay, yeah, this is every . 832 00:41:54,434 --> 00:41:57,860 At every time I get all of the symptoms, it's just me. 833 00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:02,407 I'm like I don't know what it is about me oh. 834 00:42:02,407 --> 00:42:07,456 Covid loves me, I must be a really good host. 835 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,733 Warren: Like, oh, yeah, I feel for you. 836 00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:16,827 Like I said the first time, the only time I had it it was a 837 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:20,467 couple days not feeling so, like I said, it was rather mild. 838 00:42:20,467 --> 00:42:22,804 I know people have just been horrible with it. 839 00:42:22,804 --> 00:42:28,773 I was like really like a scale a sore throat, like on the like, 840 00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:32,369 a strep throat, sore throat, head congestion and headaches. 841 00:42:32,369 --> 00:42:36,402 I didn't have any nausea, um, and I didn't lose my taste at 842 00:42:36,521 --> 00:42:38,626 all, but yeah, I was. 843 00:42:38,626 --> 00:42:41,373 That's why I had this like a strep throat, sore throat, oh, 844 00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:42,202 and then you're coughing. 845 00:42:42,202 --> 00:42:46,771 All the time I was coughing so much my abs were sore for like 846 00:42:46,871 --> 00:42:49,789 two weeks like been doing hundreds of sit-ups a day and 847 00:42:50,333 --> 00:42:52,661 looking at me, you know I haven't done a hundred sit-ups 848 00:42:54,525 --> 00:42:57,610 in my life combined, but my abs felt like it from all the 849 00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:58,050 coughing. 850 00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:58,893 Oh gosh. 851 00:42:59,172 --> 00:43:00,722 Cee Cee: Wonderful If that was a side effect. 852 00:43:00,722 --> 00:43:03,327 Like, yeah, you're going to cough your brains out, but by 853 00:43:03,367 --> 00:43:05,831 the end of this you're going to have like a six pack and you're 854 00:43:05,891 --> 00:43:07,034 going to look so good. 855 00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:10,367 Warren: I felt like I should have all that. 856 00:43:10,367 --> 00:43:12,601 Yeah, yeah, that was. 857 00:43:12,601 --> 00:43:14,668 That was so well. 858 00:43:14,668 --> 00:43:18,570 We'll lay in this wonderful fun plane on some COVID. 859 00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:23,967 And I want to thank our Patreon supporters Hallie, the original 860 00:43:23,967 --> 00:43:26,431 Jaded HR rock star, bill and Michael. 861 00:43:26,431 --> 00:43:27,755 Check us out on Patreon. 862 00:43:27,755 --> 00:43:30,327 You can find all the links in the show notes. 863 00:43:30,327 --> 00:43:34,036 Let's see here the voice artist at the beginning is Andrew 864 00:43:34,077 --> 00:43:37,902 Kolpa and the intro and outro music is Devil to Devil, the 865 00:43:37,943 --> 00:43:39,688 song by the Underschool Orchestra. 866 00:43:39,688 --> 00:43:42,864 I think I'd get it right by now , after saying it for almost 867 00:43:42,925 --> 00:43:47,648 five years and with all that fun stuff said as always, I'm 868 00:43:47,688 --> 00:43:53,480 Warren, I'm Cece and we're here helping you survive HR. 869 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,240 One what-the-fuck moment at a time. 870 00:43:55,240 --> 00:44:07,605 Thank you.