WEBVTT 00:00:02.023 --> 00:00:09.814 Had you actually read the email, you would know that the podcast you are about to listen to could contain explicit language and offensive content. 00:00:09.814 --> 00:00:16.480 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, present or future employers. 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:19.707 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 00:00:19.707 --> 00:00:26.548 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write up my employee for crying too much? 00:00:26.548 --> 00:00:28.841 Welcome to our little safe zone. 00:00:28.841 --> 00:00:37.965 Welcome to Jaded HR. 00:00:45.868 --> 00:00:53.192 Welcome to Jaded HR, the podcast by two HR professionals who want to help you get through the workday by saying everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 00:00:53.192 --> 00:00:54.012 I'm Warren. 00:00:54.673 --> 00:00:58.174 I'm Cece All right back again. 00:00:58.956 --> 00:01:04.237 Yeah, so we were talking about your Snowmageddon and my lack of it last episode. 00:01:04.237 --> 00:01:08.671 Now my area is actually getting it. 00:01:08.671 --> 00:01:09.373 I was telling you before we started. 00:01:09.373 --> 00:01:19.909 You know it's actually snowing here in the coast of North Carolina because you've got the warm water of the Atlantic Ocean and where I live, the sound the Curry Tuck sound is like 200 yards. 00:01:19.909 --> 00:01:28.944 That way it's warm water so it like shields us from snow most of the time, but it's like I'm looking out the window right now I can see it in the light. 00:01:28.944 --> 00:01:30.728 It's really coming down. 00:01:30.728 --> 00:01:38.240 We're depending on which app you use or weather station you look at, you know it's somewhere between six and nine inches we're supposed to get. 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:46.274 It was just like mind-blowing because we go years without anything and now we're actually gonna get some. 00:01:46.513 --> 00:02:16.850 My brother-in-law in norlean sent me a picture his son in the front yard and it looks like it's probably six inches there and oh my gosh, yeah, this, the snowstorm is crazy he was trying to contact one of our vendors today, just to connect with them, and I got an automatic reply back and he said, or it said, something along the lines of I'm not in the office today, I'm enjoying our first snow in New Orleans for like since for 17 years or something and I was like, good for you, enjoy exactly. 00:02:17.752 --> 00:02:23.027 yeah, I don't think my nephew down there has ever seen snow. 00:02:23.027 --> 00:02:26.834 This might be his first time ever seeing snow, at least down there. 00:02:26.834 --> 00:02:36.936 Maybe he's traveled somewhere, but but I was telling you this is the snow I personally like, because most of the time in the south the snow we get is that wet, mushy, slushy stuff. 00:02:36.936 --> 00:02:56.054 Yeah, I can tell you when it would snow when my was little, my brother we'd come, we'd have a snowball fight and we'd be coming home all bloody as you pack a snowball and you're just throwing a chunk of ice at each other by the time you do that and yeah, there were some—we looked like we'd been through a real war after a couple of rounds of snowball fights out there. 00:02:56.054 --> 00:02:58.388 But yeah, but this is the light powdery stuff. 00:02:58.780 --> 00:03:05.813 You know my grandmother who, by the way, on last Wednesday, the 15th she turned 106 years old. 00:03:05.813 --> 00:03:10.471 She's doing okay, especially for being 106. 00:03:10.471 --> 00:03:12.866 Yeah, I called her. 00:03:12.866 --> 00:03:22.406 She didn't have a clue who I was, I don't think, but she was very sweet and very polite and I think she liked the attention of getting a phone call and things like that. 00:03:22.907 --> 00:03:31.122 But I'm named for her husband, my grandfather, and I am always worried that. 00:03:31.122 --> 00:03:36.520 You know my grandfather's been dead for quite a while and will she think I'm him? 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:37.201 I just don't want. 00:03:37.201 --> 00:03:38.204 Oh, it's Warren. 00:03:38.204 --> 00:03:39.586 No, not that Warren. 00:03:39.586 --> 00:03:44.961 I'm always worried, since she's been sort of declining. 00:03:44.961 --> 00:03:47.866 But she was very happy, very polite. 00:03:47.866 --> 00:03:48.306 She didn't have a. 00:03:48.306 --> 00:03:49.747 Oh, I was worried, since she's been sort of declining. 00:03:49.769 --> 00:03:50.449 But she was very happy, very polite. 00:03:50.449 --> 00:03:51.189 She didn't have a clue who I was. 00:03:51.210 --> 00:04:04.377 Aw, yeah, yeah, but anyways, she lived in Montana up until very recently and this light powdery snow that sort of it's dry and powdery that reminds me of Montana snow and not, you know, north Carolina snow. 00:04:04.377 --> 00:04:06.579 So, anyways, having a lot of fun with that. 00:04:06.579 --> 00:04:10.088 So, yeah, we're snowmageddon, round two down here. 00:04:10.670 --> 00:04:24.471 We'll see, actually, as I'm speaking, how you get that little Microsoft alert in the corner four inches of snow expected in the next four hours, six inches of snow tonight, and it's two additional inches of snow before whatever. 00:04:24.471 --> 00:04:27.521 So, anyways, it popped off too quick before I could read it. 00:04:27.521 --> 00:04:28.204 But yeah, we're gonna. 00:04:28.204 --> 00:04:30.228 It's gonna be interesting. 00:04:30.228 --> 00:04:30.850 We'll see what. 00:04:30.911 --> 00:04:38.742 What we have here our snow is still on the ground, like it hasn't gotten above freezing, which is very not normal for us. 00:04:38.742 --> 00:04:44.531 So, like it's it's been, I feel like I live in South Park, the snow is just still there. 00:04:44.531 --> 00:04:46.235 Always there, always there. 00:04:46.235 --> 00:04:51.487 But we're going to go down to negative three tonight, so heat is on. 00:04:51.487 --> 00:04:53.968 I am bundled in an oversized hoodie. 00:04:53.968 --> 00:04:58.944 I'm like this is my vibe, just yeah. 00:05:00.168 --> 00:05:00.589 Ready for it. 00:05:00.589 --> 00:05:05.572 So I'm now only coming into this room over at the garage to record. 00:05:05.572 --> 00:05:07.245 Now I'm doing everything else. 00:05:07.245 --> 00:05:08.867 I take my laptop downstairs. 00:05:08.867 --> 00:05:21.653 I even got a little lap desk thing, which is actually quite awesome, and I have a portable second screen monitor that, if I wanted to put on there, I could put on so I could do things from my desk. 00:05:21.653 --> 00:05:27.091 Oh yeah, so I'm only coming up here to record, where I can be in peace and quiet and things like that. 00:05:27.091 --> 00:05:32.588 So yeah, but I didn't have the heat on and so it's still working. 00:05:33.221 --> 00:05:43.793 I'm getting up here, so it'll kick in at some point, but, unlike previous recent episodes, I actually did homework. 00:05:43.793 --> 00:05:52.380 Yay, I typed up notes and I am prepared for podcasting today. 00:05:52.380 --> 00:05:58.192 So let's see if that makes any difference at all or not. 00:05:58.192 --> 00:05:59.615 So anyway. 00:05:59.615 --> 00:06:06.711 So I did a webinar this week and my wife actually did the same webinar. 00:06:06.711 --> 00:06:10.810 It was from a company that's known for their HRS and payroll systems. 00:06:10.810 --> 00:06:14.511 They have a three letter name, but I won't mention who they are. 00:06:14.511 --> 00:06:19.495 Anyways, I was doing the webinar and the opening keynote speaker. 00:06:19.495 --> 00:06:27.673 The opening keynote speaker was I've said it a number of times before before I have a disdain for keynotes. 00:06:29.043 --> 00:06:30.627 I I see many of them. 00:06:30.627 --> 00:06:33.134 And this one was the same as it's. 00:06:33.134 --> 00:06:36.060 It's your stereotypical hallmark or lifetime movie. 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:46.221 You, you, you take a tragedy, you put a setting in whatever setting it's in, and then what they did to overcome it, including writing a book don't forget writing the book. 00:06:46.221 --> 00:06:50.531 And then how they, how they overcame that, that problem. 00:06:50.531 --> 00:07:06.682 And this person, she had a horrible tragedy go on in her life, but it was, it was formulaic, keynote speaker and after like 15 minutes, and in that 15 minutes, 10 mentions of her book, I muted it. 00:07:06.682 --> 00:07:10.355 I was like done, I'll just mute it, I'll work on the side. 00:07:10.795 --> 00:07:16.428 My wife, my wife listened to it and you know we compared notes afterwards and she really liked it. 00:07:16.428 --> 00:07:21.225 And she liked the lady's story and it really related. 00:07:21.225 --> 00:07:23.209 Well, she liked the story. 00:07:23.209 --> 00:07:25.194 It was a sad, tragic story and things. 00:07:25.194 --> 00:07:28.529 But I said, well, you liked the story, but what did you get out of it? 00:07:28.529 --> 00:07:38.449 Was there substance, any level of substance that you're going to get out and say you know that you're better for and you know we're listening to that for an hour? 00:07:38.449 --> 00:07:41.805 And she said, well, no, but it was a really nice, compelling story. 00:07:41.805 --> 00:07:43.810 I'm like, yeah, but I don't. 00:07:43.810 --> 00:07:46.023 You know, I can watch TV. 00:07:46.023 --> 00:07:52.230 If I want a nice story, I don't wanna be in a seminar to hear that same story. 00:07:52.230 --> 00:07:58.505 And you know, okay, here's another thing going off my notes here. 00:07:58.505 --> 00:08:07.173 So all these keynote speakers and their books that they're hawking on there Once upon a time somebody got my wife into. 00:08:07.173 --> 00:08:08.958 My wife likes self-help books. 00:08:08.958 --> 00:08:10.428 I despise them. 00:08:10.668 --> 00:08:11.612 I love them too. 00:08:12.334 --> 00:08:13.237 You like them too, okay. 00:08:13.425 --> 00:08:15.774 Well, professional development like books. 00:08:15.774 --> 00:08:17.391 I love professional development books. 00:08:18.745 --> 00:08:28.495 Well, our former next door neighbor and my wife were talking about these self-help books and everything and he recommended one to her and then he ended up just bringing it by and giving it to her. 00:08:28.495 --> 00:08:32.585 Recommended one to her and then he ended up just bringing it by and giving it to her. 00:08:32.585 --> 00:08:38.797 And I've noticed this on the only well, not the only, but a few of the keynote speakers when I've actually seen their books in person. 00:08:38.797 --> 00:08:40.684 They're self-published and that's a huge red flag to me. 00:08:40.684 --> 00:08:47.871 If it's self-published, I could write a, I could self-publish a book tomorrow, just transcribe all the episodes and make a. 00:08:47.871 --> 00:08:59.115 Well, this was a physical book but it was like my wife could not get past the first chapter of it because the grammar there was no editing, it was like grammar error, central and things like that. 00:08:59.115 --> 00:09:08.572 And I see that for a lot of these you know self-help and keynote speaker types because the the market is so flooded with that and I think that's probably one of the only. 00:09:08.572 --> 00:09:10.048 Now you do make more money. 00:09:10.048 --> 00:09:18.153 I understand on the self-publishing, but anyways, but like I said, I couldn't do it, I just muted her. 00:09:18.153 --> 00:09:23.934 It's like you have to be on for a long time to get your credit, not that I really need it, but I just went on and moved it. 00:09:24.546 --> 00:09:27.956 But it did remind me of a story from a friend of mine. 00:09:27.956 --> 00:09:32.366 But it did remind me of a story from mine. 00:09:32.366 --> 00:09:44.397 He is the practice administrator of a sizable one at large, not nationwide or anything but a medical office, and he was telling me you know when and what got me thinking this is, you know, style of or substance is he? 00:09:44.397 --> 00:09:50.837 He tells me the story you know about all these medical reps who come in and he said A, they're all always female. 00:09:50.837 --> 00:10:00.639 B, they're all always like tens and they're dressed to like inexpensive outfits that are, you know, a little bit provocative. 00:10:02.047 --> 00:10:09.837 Now, my friend is not going to be persuaded by those female provocative outfits, but he said they're like trained monkeys, their only purpose is to be persuaded by those female provocative outfits. 00:10:09.837 --> 00:10:16.196 But he sits there and says they're like trained monkeys, their only purpose is to be eye candy and they can only do the talking points of what they were spoon fed. 00:10:16.196 --> 00:10:22.616 And he says he asked them, they're all like every single one was like a former college cheerleader and things like that. 00:10:22.616 --> 00:10:32.956 This is like what you go into when you, after you're finished with cheerleading and things like that, what you go into when you, after you're finished with cheerleading and and things like that. 00:10:32.956 --> 00:10:35.663 But, and you know, some of the doctors he says are very smitten by some of these sales reps. 00:10:35.763 --> 00:10:37.606 But he just says it's now. 00:10:37.606 --> 00:10:42.317 He says he loves some of the styles these ladies are wearing and their stuff. 00:10:42.317 --> 00:10:50.591 But it's just, it's just, it's just funny, the the style over substance type stuff. 00:10:51.192 --> 00:11:01.881 Our friend is a pharmaceutical rep and he's the only guy and he always makes jokes that he's aging out because he's turning 50. 00:11:08.898 --> 00:11:10.724 So he's like oh man, I'm aging out of this industry. 00:11:10.724 --> 00:11:11.947 That's what it seems like, according to my friend. 00:11:11.947 --> 00:11:17.678 I don't, I don't know anybody who's done pharmaceutical sales and things like that, but yeah, style over substance. 00:11:17.678 --> 00:11:23.854 So, anyways, well, this is our second episode of 2025. 00:11:23.854 --> 00:11:38.114 Yes, the last week I've been reading all sorts of articles on hr trends in 2025 and they're almost all cookie cutter articles. 00:11:38.114 --> 00:11:47.539 Oh man, sherms article, whether it's I I can't think where else I've read these articles on but you know, I'm I'm honestly reading these articles because I, I want to get something. 00:11:47.539 --> 00:11:47.736 I'm an hr nerd. 00:11:47.736 --> 00:11:49.447 I, yeah, I want'm honestly reading these articles because I want to get something. 00:11:49.447 --> 00:11:50.057 I'm an HR nerd. 00:11:50.057 --> 00:11:52.299 I want to stay on top of things. 00:11:52.299 --> 00:11:54.042 I want to see, oh, what's coming down the pipeline. 00:11:54.042 --> 00:12:03.707 But almost all of them were cookie cutter to the same AI returning to work, dei and B and mental health. 00:12:03.707 --> 00:12:06.293 And then you throw in groundbreaking. 00:12:07.135 --> 00:12:08.888 Yeah, there was nothing groundbreaking. 00:12:08.888 --> 00:12:15.315 I'm like, really, you know you, you know top trends to be on the lookout for 2025 and it's yeah, ai. 00:12:15.315 --> 00:12:17.038 You know I. 00:12:17.038 --> 00:12:25.015 I had a conversation with somebody not that long ago about ai and you know everybody some we've talked a number of times people think we'll lose their job to it, and you're not. 00:12:25.015 --> 00:12:35.926 But in this labor shortage economy, we need to automate all the jobs we can and be using AI to the fullest extent so we can not have to worry about hiring being. 00:12:35.926 --> 00:12:39.916 You know, I could hire 10 people tomorrow if I could find the right 10 people. 00:12:40.317 --> 00:12:40.537 Right. 00:12:41.446 --> 00:12:44.013 And I think there's so many companies out there that are the same way. 00:12:44.013 --> 00:12:50.668 If you could find those right 10 people or more now I'm a small company we could hire them if you could find them. 00:12:50.668 --> 00:12:57.087 So if you free people up with some AI, maybe we can make better use of the resources we have. 00:12:57.087 --> 00:13:00.996 So you know, once again, not afraid of AI Returning to work. 00:13:03.086 --> 00:13:04.688 we've been talking about it for a year now. 00:13:05.149 --> 00:13:11.932 It's you know, and there's more headlines out there as this big name company is making everybody return to work and this one isn't. 00:13:11.932 --> 00:13:14.131 But what was the article I read recently? 00:13:14.131 --> 00:13:21.793 Oh gosh, spotify is not making their people return to work and, you know, is it going to be a thing. 00:13:21.793 --> 00:13:29.815 You know, last time we discussed the pros of coming to the office and the social interaction, especially as you're a younger professional. 00:13:29.815 --> 00:13:32.734 But yeah, that was something. 00:13:37.091 --> 00:13:47.197 Honestly, I just let the applicants let you know when it's time, because when you start to have people who are seeking it, then the pendulum will swing the other direction. 00:13:47.476 --> 00:13:48.538 Absolutely. 00:13:50.345 --> 00:13:51.287 Yeah, and then you'll adapt. 00:13:51.287 --> 00:13:55.357 You know, like you can't like mandate it right now, though I think that's stupid. 00:13:56.806 --> 00:14:12.176 You know I, you know we never had a true where we were allowed to work certain positions of course, not every position or engineer, but you can't bring a Navy vessel to your home to work on and things but you know, certain positions you were allowed to work up to two days a week. 00:14:12.176 --> 00:14:14.568 I stopped that voluntarily, but anyways. 00:14:14.568 --> 00:14:23.095 But reading these articles about HR trends and one of them was from SHRM it made me think why are the writing? 00:14:23.095 --> 00:14:28.609 There's nothing groundbreaking that someone who hasn't been in HR more than six months can't get out of. 00:14:28.609 --> 00:14:29.309 Out of this. 00:14:29.309 --> 00:14:33.254 This article and these articles and I. 00:14:33.254 --> 00:14:35.979 We need a replacement for sean. 00:14:36.580 --> 00:14:40.812 And yeah, you know, I told you this is a topic I'm going to discuss in a. 00:14:40.812 --> 00:14:42.898 I want to dig deeper into at some point. 00:14:42.898 --> 00:14:46.090 But but what's out there that can replace hrs? 00:14:46.090 --> 00:14:47.692 You know my wife, she does payroll. 00:14:47.692 --> 00:14:52.639 They've got like three or four professional organizations for payroll people. 00:14:52.639 --> 00:15:06.099 I mean payrollorg formerly the APA is the big one, but there's several others out there and I think a lot of other professions have multiple professional organizations out there for their people. 00:15:06.099 --> 00:15:11.898 But HR, we really don't have an alternative to SHRM. 00:15:11.898 --> 00:15:17.653 Oh, speaking of which I think I mentioned earlier, I'm going to the Virginia State SHRM. 00:15:17.653 --> 00:15:20.193 I think it's in April or something like that Nice. 00:15:21.006 --> 00:15:26.587 The opening keynote speaker is JCT, so I'll try to get a selfie with him or something. 00:15:29.655 --> 00:15:30.097 Oh boy. 00:15:30.490 --> 00:15:39.378 Actually squirrel brain moment here this state SHRM council meeting or chapter state annual meeting. 00:15:39.378 --> 00:15:54.960 They've limited to only 600 attendees and I've been to every time in Virginia and I live in North Carolina but I work in Virginia right across the border but they rotate among five-ish cities. 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:02.115 You know Hampton Roads area, richmond area, washington DC area, roanoke area and somewhere else I forget where else, but they rotate among these. 00:16:02.115 --> 00:16:13.717 So it comes back to the Hampton Roads, virginia Beach area every five years or so and I've been to most of the ones in this area and there's well over. 00:16:13.717 --> 00:16:21.042 I don't think I've been to one that has less than 600 people and I'm thinking why would you limit it to 600 people? 00:16:22.513 --> 00:16:25.159 I'm curious to see how that goes. 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:25.981 But they're still selling. 00:16:25.981 --> 00:16:27.636 I was just checking the other day. 00:16:27.636 --> 00:16:31.019 They're still selling packages or whatever. 00:16:31.019 --> 00:16:35.539 You can still go if you want to want, so they're not sold out. 00:16:35.539 --> 00:16:37.573 But if you're going to be, at the virginia thing charm. 00:16:38.417 --> 00:16:43.153 Look, look for me, I'll be, I'll be there and I'll be handing out some jaded hr cards. 00:16:43.153 --> 00:16:44.015 Love it. 00:16:44.015 --> 00:16:45.438 Let's see if I could do that. 00:16:45.438 --> 00:16:49.474 So anyways, that is, that's something else going. 00:16:49.474 --> 00:17:00.482 But oh, I was going also squirrel brain, like I said, the deib I've seen so many articles about and I once again haven't read 99 of them because most of it's clickbait. 00:17:00.482 --> 00:17:15.114 But yeah, you know, this company's getting rid of our deib program and that company's getting rid of it and I'm like, okay, let's, let's look at it, because a few years ago, when you know, you know, deib just you know, was everybody's hot topic. 00:17:15.114 --> 00:17:21.751 You know, after, after the George Floyd and the other social injustice things that were going on, deib hit its. 00:17:22.071 --> 00:17:26.698 You know so many consultants putting out so many shitty DEIB programs. 00:17:26.698 --> 00:17:31.703 You know their cookie cutter and I see that you know this company's axing their DIV. 00:17:31.703 --> 00:17:33.165 Are they really axing it? 00:17:33.165 --> 00:17:41.240 Are they getting rid of something that they bought on a whim because they need to do something very topical, to be what is the right word? 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:52.161 Be cool, I guess, be trendy, because this is what everybody's focusing on right now and do something, and they got stuck into some shitty program. 00:17:52.161 --> 00:17:55.500 I've actually seen some really bad. 00:17:55.500 --> 00:18:05.978 Yeah, they're done by these keynote speakers that have something cool to offer and to sell to you, but I don't buy it. 00:18:05.978 --> 00:18:07.574 Once again, I'm not reading all those articles. 00:18:07.835 --> 00:18:08.236 Yeah. 00:18:08.557 --> 00:18:10.061 They're kickbait, Kill it bait. 00:18:11.430 --> 00:18:12.010 I like the ones. 00:18:12.010 --> 00:18:12.270 What was it? 00:18:12.270 --> 00:18:14.334 I think it was Costco who was like no, what was it? 00:18:14.334 --> 00:18:20.141 I think it was Costco who was like no, we're keeping it, we're keeping DEIB. 00:18:20.141 --> 00:18:22.284 And I think their reasoning. 00:18:22.284 --> 00:18:36.083 Well, according to the article, allegedly it was one of those things that came up in board meetings and they're like no, this is important to our people, we're keeping it, we're keeping DEI and we are keeping 150 hot dogs, like that's it. 00:18:36.083 --> 00:18:39.699 And I was like that's nice, I like that. 00:18:39.699 --> 00:18:40.622 That's a fun article. 00:18:41.832 --> 00:18:55.163 Yeah, yeah, and there's nothing wrong with ditching a program that isn't working, or not ditching it, but replacing it and saying, okay, we just tried this vendor and it's not working. 00:18:55.163 --> 00:18:58.398 Or maybe it's working, fine, but you can do better. 00:18:58.398 --> 00:18:59.342 I found something better. 00:18:59.342 --> 00:19:03.500 There's always something shinier somewhere else. 00:19:03.500 --> 00:19:06.337 And so I read all these articles. 00:19:06.337 --> 00:19:13.325 I'm thinking, yeah, are they really getting rid of it or are they just readjusting, know, retargeting? 00:19:13.325 --> 00:19:16.354 I can't see all these companies I, I ladder. 00:19:16.494 --> 00:19:19.686 I hope it's not companies just getting rid of it, because they don't. 00:19:19.686 --> 00:19:23.458 I mean, I'm sure there are, I'm sure there are companies out there, yeah like. 00:19:23.458 --> 00:19:34.105 I'm sure there are companies who are like we're not doing that anymore by, yeah, like, but I hope it I hope it would be the latter that there's just more of a refocus, yeah. 00:19:35.211 --> 00:19:36.877 I don't know. 00:19:36.877 --> 00:19:43.125 You know SHRM drops the E or what do they drop? 00:19:43.125 --> 00:19:43.267 Equity? 00:19:43.267 --> 00:19:43.630 I can't remember. 00:19:43.630 --> 00:19:46.577 Yeah, didn't SHRM drop the equity. 00:19:46.577 --> 00:19:53.122 Or I forget what letter they drop, but out of their DEIB or what they're teaching or what they're doing. 00:19:53.122 --> 00:19:58.219 But you know, maybe they're buying into that garbage. 00:19:59.881 --> 00:20:01.664 Yeah, I don't know. 00:20:01.664 --> 00:20:09.853 Well, I don't know, Because Johnny C Taylor man, like he's just a future politician, Like that's just so. 00:20:09.853 --> 00:20:11.117 I don't trust anything. 00:20:11.117 --> 00:20:12.432 You know what I'm saying. 00:20:12.432 --> 00:20:15.336 Like I don't Any decision that comes like that out of Sherm. 00:20:15.336 --> 00:20:25.522 Now I'm like just so jaded about Sherm, you know, I'm like I don't know, he's just trying to run for office somewhere, Like that's just his, that's his end game. 00:20:26.910 --> 00:20:38.056 And that's exactly why I think we need an alternative to Sherm, and I actually did go down a little bit of a rabbit hole and I couldn't find anything. 00:20:38.076 --> 00:20:49.576 There are other HR organizations, tiny, unknown, you know things that you know I'm not going to give my money to or anything like that, but yeah, there is an anything out there. 00:20:49.576 --> 00:20:53.723 So hey, if you've got an idea for an alternative to SHRM, let us know. 00:20:53.723 --> 00:20:56.278 Well, I'm going to save it for the episode. 00:20:56.278 --> 00:20:59.778 I do have one organization that's out there that might be able to. 00:20:59.778 --> 00:21:02.343 That seems to be making a little bit of a headway towards that. 00:21:02.470 --> 00:21:05.413 I don't know if it's their goal or not, but anyways. 00:21:05.413 --> 00:21:10.063 So two social media stories. 00:21:10.063 --> 00:21:18.008 Well, first one is social media the TikTok ban TikTok ban that lasted a whopping seven hours. 00:21:18.509 --> 00:21:20.375 I'm like I'm not cool enough to be on TikTok. 00:21:21.459 --> 00:21:22.141 See, I'm not. 00:21:22.141 --> 00:21:26.978 My wife lives on TikTok and I'll go ahead and say it. 00:21:26.978 --> 00:21:29.997 Most of the people she watch are like human debris on parade. 00:21:31.059 --> 00:21:31.440 Oh yeah. 00:21:31.800 --> 00:21:38.134 They're just You're only doing TikTok because you're unemployable otherwise. 00:21:38.134 --> 00:21:44.851 But she showed me this video of this lady and she's literally lost her shit. 00:21:44.851 --> 00:21:52.954 She's like in a frantic state of psychosis about the tiktok ban about to happen and you know she's gonna lose. 00:21:52.954 --> 00:21:53.497 I looked at her. 00:21:53.497 --> 00:22:01.681 She has like okay, she has like 150,000 followers, more than we have, listeners and you know whatever 100. 00:22:01.681 --> 00:22:03.035 But at 150,000. 00:22:03.109 --> 00:22:03.854 We can change that. 00:22:03.894 --> 00:22:08.597 listeners you can follow us, just follow us on all social media. 00:22:12.271 --> 00:22:20.196 You're not making buku dollars, that this should is probably a full-time job if you're you're, you've only got 150 000 followers. 00:22:20.196 --> 00:22:22.642 You know that that's a great huge number. 00:22:22.642 --> 00:22:31.251 But yeah, you're, you know and you know, and judging by everything else she was doing, she's, like that, unemployable otherwise. 00:22:31.251 --> 00:22:35.112 But now tiktok's back and I think they they put a. 00:22:35.112 --> 00:22:39.541 The new administration, leaving things apolitical, has put a 75 day. 00:22:39.541 --> 00:22:41.913 They're going to revisit it in 75 days. 00:22:41.913 --> 00:22:44.200 What to what to do with tiktok. 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:50.454 But yeah, people were literally losing their minds over losing tikt. 00:22:51.436 --> 00:23:03.442 Wow, we really, as a society as a whole, we really just are a little too connected to our social media In a bad way Obsessed. 00:23:03.442 --> 00:23:09.997 Also, half of these people I see on TikTok, I go down weird rabbit holes. 00:23:09.997 --> 00:23:11.674 Now, this is my hobby. 00:23:11.674 --> 00:23:19.578 I'm on the YouTube train and I just, wherever YouTube takes me, I go, which is now like my algorithm on there. 00:23:19.578 --> 00:23:21.877 It brings me to like what is it? 00:23:21.877 --> 00:23:37.797 Like commenters or something, and they just like talk about different things in social media and a lot of it is like toxic social media influencers and I'm like how are these people making more money than we are? 00:23:37.797 --> 00:23:41.038 Just how, like? 00:23:41.038 --> 00:23:48.345 I don't know, there's a kid that just like crashed his Maserati or some crap and then he had to like I don't know, and I'm just sitting there. 00:23:48.345 --> 00:23:51.987 I'm like this is stupid, like everyone, why? 00:23:51.987 --> 00:23:58.355 Anyway, no, I feel like I need a detox off of social media for a while, but that's where I'm. 00:23:58.355 --> 00:23:59.096 I don't know. 00:23:59.096 --> 00:24:01.471 It's so hard because now it's part of your everyday life. 00:24:01.570 --> 00:24:03.776 It's hard it is, it's hard. 00:24:03.776 --> 00:24:05.038 I'm, I'm doing much better. 00:24:05.038 --> 00:24:14.180 I'm I'm spending less time on Facebook, I'm using Instagram a little bit more and because I'm, it's, it's like I'm getting I'm getting a different same meta company. 00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:29.259 I know, but I'm getting a different same meta company, I know, but I'm getting a different algorithm of posts of people I don't follow and it's, it doesn't feel as toxic, it doesn't feel, as you know, I don't get the political garbage I you know, that's all over Facebook and things like that. 00:24:29.691 --> 00:24:45.098 But in speaking of YouTube, there's two hobbies I have that I follow a lot of YouTubers on and I'm getting to the point where I don't want to follow them as much anymore because they're hocking something. 00:24:45.098 --> 00:24:52.240 And you know, the two things are homebrewing and off-road driving and you know everybody's. 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.538 And you follow my affiliate link in the bottom and I'm like, okay, great, but tell me what you really. 00:24:57.538 --> 00:25:03.473 If you're trying to tell me something, tell me about what you really think, even though they say, oh, this is a I'm not paid for to my opinion and I can. 00:25:03.473 --> 00:25:05.980 They gave me this free and I can say what I want about it. 00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:06.691 Like, no, they didn't. 00:25:06.691 --> 00:25:09.817 You know, you want to keep the gravy train going. 00:25:09.817 --> 00:25:21.323 So, yeah, I'm gonna get to say, you know, this sucks and things like that, when, like every second or third video is just blatantly hawking something when I want to see, you know, I want to see these off-road trails that I want to go on. 00:25:21.323 --> 00:25:30.155 You know, I'm planning another trip to Utah to see my daughter and I'm going to be taking my truck and I'm trying to figure out where I want to go off-roading while I'm in Utah, except for Moab. 00:25:30.155 --> 00:25:30.836 I will not do. 00:25:31.238 --> 00:25:32.559 Moab is you know? 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:38.719 Yeah, it's, it's very special people in Moab in the off-road community. 00:25:38.719 --> 00:25:44.336 So anyways, everybody wants to go there, been there, done that and not going back. 00:25:44.336 --> 00:25:55.096 But home brewers are a lot less, because I guess there's a lot less, you know, money maybe in it, but or maybe it's just the mix of people I'm watching but I'm not getting as much. 00:25:55.096 --> 00:25:57.818 They recommend this product, they recommend that product. 00:25:57.818 --> 00:26:00.018 I buy this or I don't buy that. 00:26:00.018 --> 00:26:07.240 On the other side of my monitor here is my brewing station and I've not brewed anything in a very long time. 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:19.936 The word influencer has such a negative connotation to me when someone describes themselves as an influencer. 00:26:19.936 --> 00:26:22.403 I just why? 00:26:22.549 --> 00:26:24.075 Well, don't you think highly of yourself? 00:26:25.378 --> 00:26:28.056 Yeah, I have the right opinion, you know. 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:30.162 I'm special. 00:26:31.412 --> 00:26:34.661 I know more than you about this and things like that. 00:26:34.661 --> 00:26:36.957 Go back to keeping up speakers again. 00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:38.441 Seriously. 00:26:39.512 --> 00:26:40.917 These people are in the HR world. 00:26:40.917 --> 00:26:50.664 I don't follow anybody on YouTube anymore on HR related because that just I think I still think I have baked. 00:26:50.664 --> 00:26:54.836 Hr Ladies, you haven't put a video out in forever, oh yeah. 00:26:54.836 --> 00:26:56.401 You haven't put a video out in forever. 00:26:56.401 --> 00:26:57.970 Get another one out, but we haven't. 00:26:57.970 --> 00:27:04.823 You know I unsubscribe from everything because they were garbage and a lot of. 00:27:04.823 --> 00:27:09.558 You know touchy feely, do your best and oh, this is. 00:27:09.558 --> 00:27:13.096 You know what you have to do, not your your advice. 00:27:13.096 --> 00:27:16.031 Advice, it doesn't resonate with so was. 00:27:16.071 --> 00:27:21.840 Was the keynote speaker for this three letter company. 00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:24.871 Was it someone well known or was it just like? 00:27:25.372 --> 00:27:27.155 okay, okay, I'd never heard she. 00:27:27.155 --> 00:27:29.779 You know it, never. 00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:34.497 And that's one thing you know, every I've been going to this for online. 00:27:34.497 --> 00:27:38.609 They do it once or twice a year and the first thing I do is I look at the list of presenters. 00:27:38.609 --> 00:27:42.337 There's only one name I recognize and I was like, eh, I can take it or leave it. 00:27:42.337 --> 00:27:46.719 And then I a list of presenters and then I say, okay, I could take it or leave it. 00:27:46.789 --> 00:27:50.932 But you know, people I really like and enjoy have been presenters. 00:27:50.932 --> 00:27:53.713 Kate Bischoff has been one of their presenters before. 00:27:53.713 --> 00:27:57.234 John Hyman has David Miklas, I think. 00:27:57.234 --> 00:28:00.136 A lot of people that I do enjoy following. 00:28:00.136 --> 00:28:13.683 And you know, if I see Kate Bischoff or John Hyman as a presenter in a seminar, I'm probably going to attend their session, their little breakout session, because I know what I'm getting, yeah, and I'm going to enjoy it. 00:28:13.683 --> 00:28:18.126 And they don't pander to their audiences but this whole thing. 00:28:18.126 --> 00:28:25.310 Anyways, but squirrel brain all day today it's the snow, it's the snow, it's the snow. 00:28:25.310 --> 00:28:37.673 Where I was going, did you see the instance of the Philadelphia Eagles fan and the Green Bay Packer fan their interaction no, so I read it. 00:28:37.753 --> 00:28:42.326 I didn't see the interaction, though, like I got the gist of it, but I didn't hear. 00:28:42.346 --> 00:28:56.326 Video myself, okay but there's been so much written about it and okay, philadelphia is well known for having some of the rowdiest, toughest, meanest fans around. 00:28:56.346 --> 00:28:59.858 Yeah, don't they have a jail in the stadium for that. 00:29:00.832 --> 00:29:05.930 I understand they're old, Maybe I don't know if the new one does, but the old stadium did indeed have. 00:29:05.930 --> 00:29:11.542 I saw something online that it did have a jail in the old stadium. 00:29:11.542 --> 00:29:14.839 I don't know if the new stadium has that or not. 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.657 I would guess it would because it's a bigger stadium. 00:29:16.657 --> 00:29:18.457 They're going to have more problems with it. 00:29:18.457 --> 00:29:35.942 But on video this guy is caught dropping the C word onto this Green Bay Packer female fan, See and classy, and on top of it he works for a DEI firm. 00:29:35.942 --> 00:29:37.304 That was his job. 00:29:38.230 --> 00:29:39.714 Get out of here. 00:29:40.455 --> 00:29:40.757 No. 00:29:41.338 --> 00:29:42.141 The irony. 00:29:42.161 --> 00:29:44.748 He worked for. 00:29:46.791 --> 00:29:47.997 He got one job, dude. 00:29:50.430 --> 00:29:53.118 And yeah, and you're in. 00:29:53.118 --> 00:29:57.971 Well, get this. 00:29:57.971 --> 00:29:59.675 And I think this came from john hyman or eric marr, I don't remember. 00:29:59.675 --> 00:30:01.260 I want to give credit, but I don't remember who exactly said it. 00:30:01.260 --> 00:30:07.535 The man issued an apology and in his apology it was taken out context. 00:30:07.535 --> 00:30:12.900 How do you take calling someone a cunt out of context? 00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:20.346 I don't think there's a way to put that in context in any way. 00:30:20.346 --> 00:30:34.300 And also, in his quote-unquote apology, he says that he was provoked and, like you know, you're this big dude, macho dude, you're going to let this lady provoke you into this. 00:30:34.300 --> 00:30:39.141 I just yeah, there were so many things wrong. 00:30:39.141 --> 00:30:42.038 Actually, see, if I can, that's hilarious. 00:30:42.038 --> 00:30:44.499 But yeah, I wish I could give credit to. 00:30:44.499 --> 00:30:52.161 It's one of the daily newsletters I subscribe to and it was either John Hyman or Eric Meyer. 00:30:52.161 --> 00:30:59.720 So I'm sorry, whoever, whoever it is, but not giving proper credit, but yeah it why? 00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:07.897 why do people uh like and I'm okay, I'm honestly with this like I know some people are very upset with like, oh, you shouldn't get people fired. 00:31:07.897 --> 00:31:13.779 But I know, because if that's how you behave outside, then that's how you behave inside the office. 00:31:13.779 --> 00:31:15.048 And you know what? 00:31:15.048 --> 00:31:17.137 I'm okay with a little public humiliation. 00:31:17.137 --> 00:31:20.096 If you're going to behave like an idiot, you get to. 00:31:20.477 --> 00:31:30.894 You got to be yeah, to be publicly scorned yeah, and now that you know, his chances of getting another job are like. 00:31:30.894 --> 00:31:51.201 I forget his name, but it's out there and all they have to do is google his name and you can say what he did and what he's famous for now and he's gonna he's gonna have some back office there's anything wrong, but he's not to be forward-facing anywhere for the next many years when he's going to have Klein in our church, hell or the? 00:31:51.201 --> 00:31:53.586 Dude who at the football game? 00:31:53.586 --> 00:31:54.949 Yeah, yeah, no. 00:31:56.192 --> 00:31:57.094 He'll be fine. 00:31:57.094 --> 00:31:59.808 He'll find something, just not in DEI, he'll be fine. 00:32:01.901 --> 00:32:03.227 What's the opposite of DEI? 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:04.521 Oh, my God. 00:32:04.682 --> 00:32:19.689 Yeah, I just thought that was crazy, that he, you know, but it's social media and you know, going back, I have freedom of speech, you have freedom of speech, but you don't have also, you don't have freedom of consequences for your speech. 00:32:19.689 --> 00:32:26.111 So if you're out there and you're saying this, and it's not against the government, so you can't even claim that. 00:32:26.111 --> 00:32:31.200 I'm glad that important border dropped him like a bad habit. 00:32:33.171 --> 00:32:41.590 There was one recently another story where this woman was just doing a TikTok and she was just like blah, blah, blah, like I don't know. 00:32:41.590 --> 00:32:49.346 She was mixing, making some food and talking like through a tutorial and she dropped the N-word a few times. 00:32:49.346 --> 00:32:59.932 Oh, and she's a white woman and she just like dropped the N-word a couple times and I think people were just like, excuse me, like what? 00:32:59.932 --> 00:33:16.229 And the company that she worked for is owned by a black woman and she got fired real fast, like real fast well, I thought you were going to go this one. 00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:17.770 This came out just the other day. 00:33:17.770 --> 00:33:32.851 A flight attendant for alaska airlines was fired for filming a dance in her Airways uniform her Alaska Airways uniform and her response was what's wrong with a little twerk before work? 00:33:32.851 --> 00:33:41.633 I pulled up the article right now A poet, you can do all the twerking before work you want to do. 00:33:41.633 --> 00:33:44.612 Maybe not do it in your uniform. 00:33:44.612 --> 00:33:47.486 Yeah, and here's the first comment on this article. 00:33:47.486 --> 00:33:51.548 I found You're in uniform, and then they said A you're in uniform. 00:33:51.548 --> 00:33:53.086 B a GoFundMe. 00:33:53.086 --> 00:33:56.249 Seriously, and apparently I haven't read this version of the article. 00:33:56.249 --> 00:34:03.134 Oh yeah, she started a GoFundMe where, as of January 19th, she's raised $2,600. 00:34:03.134 --> 00:34:09.806 And her response was what's wrong with a little work, a twerk before work? 00:34:09.806 --> 00:34:12.576 She continued the caption people act like they never did that before. 00:34:12.576 --> 00:34:21.454 And then the hashtags fyp, flight attendant life discrimination is real discrimination okay, but okay, I have quite. 00:34:21.514 --> 00:34:30.782 I have follow-up questions because I've seen other airlines and other people post their quirky videos. 00:34:30.782 --> 00:34:35.454 They'll go viral and there's no like, whatever. 00:34:35.454 --> 00:34:42.293 So my question is what was the nature of the dancing and was like provocative, was it like? 00:34:42.293 --> 00:34:43.135 I don't know. 00:34:43.135 --> 00:34:54.313 I have quite I need to understand why Alaskan Airlines decided to fire this employee when it seems like other employees of other airlines can do things in their uniform that are fun and quirky. 00:34:55.394 --> 00:34:59.068 Okay, I just tried to click the link to the video which I have not seen before. 00:34:59.670 --> 00:35:00.271 I know Now. 00:35:00.291 --> 00:35:04.108 I'm warning this post may not be comfortable for some audiences. 00:35:04.349 --> 00:35:05.311 You must log in. 00:35:06.621 --> 00:35:10.492 So apparently maybe it's a little inappropriate. 00:35:10.492 --> 00:35:18.007 I don't have a TikTok account available on my computer to check it out, but Google twerk before work. 00:35:18.007 --> 00:35:23.610 I'm sure you can find it and see what the nature of that video is. 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:24.793 So boy. 00:35:25.681 --> 00:35:27.028 I'm like now I got a. 00:35:27.028 --> 00:35:27.873 This is live. 00:35:27.873 --> 00:35:30.844 This is this right, here is live, live research. 00:35:30.844 --> 00:35:33.891 I don't know. 00:35:33.891 --> 00:35:38.061 I see that's working, I see the beauty shaking. 00:35:38.061 --> 00:35:42.931 I don't think it's a fireable offense, I'm just gonna say it. 00:35:42.931 --> 00:35:44.661 I don't know if I would have fired her. 00:35:44.681 --> 00:35:47.009 Yeah so I I don't know well, whatever, I'm just going to say it. 00:35:47.009 --> 00:35:48.351 I don't know if I would have fired her. 00:35:48.351 --> 00:35:48.813 Yeah, so I don't know. 00:35:48.813 --> 00:35:50.858 Well, whatever, I'm not going to. 00:35:50.858 --> 00:36:04.894 Okay, this is, as I haven't seen the video once again On November 17th, the then flight attendant posted a TikTok, a video to TikTok, in which she danced and, in her own words, twerked in the aisles of an empty airplane. 00:36:04.894 --> 00:36:16.597 Her own words twerked in the aisles of an empty airplane and she used I'll quoting her here please, people, ghetto, bit till I die, don't let the uniform fool you is what you're saying. 00:36:16.617 --> 00:36:22.467 So yeah, the caption yeah, so maybe the verbiage, but anyways yeah I don't know. 00:36:22.568 --> 00:36:25.293 This is why I don't do real HR. 00:36:25.293 --> 00:36:27.295 This is why I'm in talent management. 00:36:30.686 --> 00:36:32.711 Oh no, Talent management is real HR, but anyways. 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:33.882 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:33.882 --> 00:36:38.012 No, I'm just, I don't do employee relations or anything like that. 00:36:39.481 --> 00:36:43.050 You know, I just also got to think have fun, do what you want to do on. 00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:52.315 I mean, I'm sure Alaska airlines probably got dozens of uh only plans people on their in their roster but they're not doing their stuff in their. 00:36:52.315 --> 00:36:54.963 This is their uniform, things like that. 00:36:55.583 --> 00:37:06.768 Yeah, you never know what people are even hey, even hooters has very strong rules about their uniform oh gosh, too many jokes. 00:37:06.768 --> 00:37:26.965 Get me canceled quickly no, like, apparently it's a real thing, like if you work at hooters, you are not allowed to wear your uniform outside of work and if you are photographed wearing your uniform outside of work, you will be terminated yeah, okay, well, I, I I can see the logic behind that. 00:37:27.045 --> 00:37:32.208 If you're you know you could be representing the company in your social media inappropriate. 00:37:32.208 --> 00:37:41.356 I mean, you know Hooters used to be so provocative and now it's tame, you know. 00:37:42.675 --> 00:37:43.117 Yeah. 00:37:44.077 --> 00:37:44.277 Yeah. 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.447 I'm a sucker for some good wings. 00:37:46.447 --> 00:37:55.340 I'm sorry'm sorry like I'm not being a very good feminist, but I really like wings have you ever done a birthday party there into a birthday party? 00:37:56.282 --> 00:38:02.913 no some things they do I know, I know hot dogs and I was just watching. 00:38:02.913 --> 00:38:10.152 I wasn't part of this birthday party, but I was just there eating some wings, watching football and watching someone else do this thing. 00:38:10.172 --> 00:38:12.179 So anyways, I got to be honest. 00:38:12.179 --> 00:38:24.951 For a while I was very intrigued with the whole Hooters employment stuff because they do so many practices, because I know a few women who have worked in Hooters their past life. 00:38:24.951 --> 00:38:31.068 But they do weigh-ins, they do this, they do that and I'm like, how do they get away with that? 00:38:31.068 --> 00:38:38.891 And interesting fact, and I'm not sure if it's still true today, but apparently at one point they hired entertainer. 00:38:38.891 --> 00:38:51.440 Like they're classified as entertainers, not servers, so that's how they can get away with like doing weigh-ins and like making sure you're not like it's so. 00:38:51.440 --> 00:39:00.523 Oh, like it's a, it was a, I've heard it's a very toxic environment I, I can only imagine you know anyways. 00:39:02.065 --> 00:39:08.074 But yeah, yes, social media is the devil and people who I enjoy social media to a certain degree. 00:39:08.074 --> 00:39:09.326 I'm trying to wean myself. 00:39:09.326 --> 00:39:11.347 Like I said earlier, I'm doing much better. 00:39:11.347 --> 00:39:23.211 I'm spending so much less time on Facebook, I'm spending a wee bit more time on Instagram, but a wee bit more than what I was is not much, and I'm trying to slowly wean myself off of it. 00:39:23.211 --> 00:39:31.574 So I think that will, unless you have anything else you want to cover today. 00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:37.791 No, honestly, I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I don't think I did so. 00:39:37.791 --> 00:39:41.163 Last week we everyone in the family got COVID. 00:39:41.163 --> 00:39:49.295 So it started with my mom, who then, like, gave it to my dad and their child care. 00:39:49.295 --> 00:39:59.034 So then we went one week without child care and then, right when they were starting to feel better, I got the COVID and Kevin got it. 00:39:59.034 --> 00:40:03.971 And then, luckily, the baby did not get it. 00:40:03.971 --> 00:40:10.731 Baby, and if she was, she was asymptomatic, but nope, she was asymptomatic but nope, she was just nope. 00:40:10.731 --> 00:40:11.612 Knock on wood. 00:40:11.612 --> 00:40:24.996 I don't know how we got out, I don't know how we survived without her getting sick, but yeah, so I am just kind of in a space of I'm feeling better and I'm trying to catch up on work that I missed and I survived. 00:40:24.996 --> 00:40:26.978 That's where I'm trying to catch up on work that I missed and I survived. 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.202 That's where I'm at Knock on wood. 00:40:31.202 --> 00:40:34.925 I haven't had COVID since I don't know in a few. 00:40:34.925 --> 00:40:40.108 I had it one time and it was moderately mild case of it, but I do. 00:40:40.108 --> 00:40:43.170 I'm still getting my COVID shot. 00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:47.413 You know, I just told my doctor when I went at the end of December. 00:40:47.413 --> 00:40:52.436 I said look, if you recommend it I'll do it, Otherwise I don't care one way or the other. 00:40:52.436 --> 00:40:53.657 And she recommended it, so I got it. 00:40:53.657 --> 00:40:54.277 And what happens? 00:40:54.277 --> 00:40:56.063 Every time I get COVID shot? 00:40:56.063 --> 00:40:57.867 I burn a fever for like two days. 00:40:58.208 --> 00:41:02.003 Oh yeah, I feel like crap and I still haven't fully recovered from it. 00:41:02.003 --> 00:41:15.248 I still get you know, a little is I just feel like crap for a couple of days and then like I just had some lingering congestion and stuff, but yeah so oh no, I got it and I got knocked on my ass. 00:41:16.922 --> 00:41:20.612 Oh every, every single symptom you could have gotten. 00:41:20.612 --> 00:41:26.382 I gotten especially everything down to, like the nose and this taste, and oh my God it was. 00:41:26.382 --> 00:41:31.083 It was 48 hours of just death and then I rebounded pretty fast. 00:41:31.264 --> 00:41:33.969 But yeah, okay, but we got it. 00:41:33.969 --> 00:41:39.987 Oh Sorry, sorry to hear that. 00:41:39.987 --> 00:41:43.751 Well, you should be good for a couple years before you get it again, right? 00:41:44.641 --> 00:41:45.907 I get it every year, Warren. 00:41:45.907 --> 00:41:51.708 Oh, really, I have get it every year warren oh really, I have gotten it every year since 2022. 00:41:51.708 --> 00:41:54.434 Like, okay, yeah, this is every. 00:41:54.434 --> 00:41:57.860 At every time I get all of the symptoms, it's just me. 00:41:57.860 --> 00:42:02.407 I'm like I don't know what it is about me oh. 00:42:02.407 --> 00:42:07.456 Covid loves me, I must be a really good host. 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.733 Like, oh, yeah, I feel for you. 00:42:13.733 --> 00:42:20.467 Like I said the first time, the only time I had it it was a couple days not feeling so, like I said, it was rather mild. 00:42:20.467 --> 00:42:22.804 I know people have just been horrible with it. 00:42:22.804 --> 00:42:32.369 I was like really like a scale a sore throat, like on the like, a strep throat, sore throat, head congestion and headaches. 00:42:32.369 --> 00:42:38.626 I didn't have any nausea, um, and I didn't lose my taste at all, but yeah, I was. 00:42:38.626 --> 00:42:42.202 That's why I had this like a strep throat, sore throat, oh, and then you're coughing. 00:42:42.202 --> 00:42:58.050 All the time I was coughing so much my abs were sore for like two weeks like been doing hundreds of sit-ups a day and looking at me, you know I haven't done a hundred sit-ups in my life combined, but my abs felt like it from all the coughing. 00:42:58.050 --> 00:42:58.893 Oh gosh. 00:42:59.172 --> 00:43:00.722 Wonderful If that was a side effect. 00:43:00.722 --> 00:43:07.034 Like, yeah, you're going to cough your brains out, but by the end of this you're going to have like a six pack and you're going to look so good. 00:43:08.740 --> 00:43:10.367 I felt like I should have all that. 00:43:10.367 --> 00:43:12.601 Yeah, yeah, that was. 00:43:12.601 --> 00:43:14.668 That was so well. 00:43:14.668 --> 00:43:18.570 We'll lay in this wonderful fun plane on some COVID. 00:43:18.570 --> 00:43:26.431 And I want to thank our Patreon supporters Hallie, the original Jaded HR rock star, bill and Michael. 00:43:26.431 --> 00:43:27.755 Check us out on Patreon. 00:43:27.755 --> 00:43:30.327 You can find all the links in the show notes. 00:43:30.327 --> 00:43:39.688 Let's see here the voice artist at the beginning is Andrew Kolpa and the intro and outro music is Devil to Devil, the song by the Underschool Orchestra. 00:43:39.688 --> 00:43:53.480 I think I'd get it right by now, after saying it for almost five years and with all that fun stuff said as always, I'm Warren, I'm Cece and we're here helping you survive HR. 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.240 One what-the-fuck moment at a time. 00:43:55.240 --> 00:44:07.605 Thank you.