1 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:04,407 Andrew Quolpa: Had you actually read the email, you would know 2 00:00:04,447 --> 00:00:07,230 that the podcast you are about to listen to could contain 3 00:00:07,331 --> 00:00:09,814 explicit language and offensive content. 4 00:00:09,814 --> 00:00:14,474 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, 5 00:00:14,814 --> 00:00:16,480 present or future employers. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,707 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 7 00:00:19,707 --> 00:00:24,722 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write 8 00:00:24,762 --> 00:00:26,548 up my employee for crying too much? 9 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,861 Welcome to our little safe zone . 10 00:00:28,861 --> 00:00:38,426 Welcome to Jaded HR. 11 00:00:46,451 --> 00:00:49,573 Warren: Welcome to JDHR, the Podcast by two HR professionals 12 00:00:49,593 --> 00:00:51,454 who want to help you get through the workday by saying 13 00:00:51,515 --> 00:00:53,456 everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 14 00:00:53,456 --> 00:00:55,917 I'm Warren and I'm Patrick. 15 00:00:55,917 --> 00:01:04,644 Yes, for a few weeks now we've been teasing a super special 16 00:01:04,664 --> 00:01:06,728 episode this episode and just like anything else that you try 17 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:10,748 and plan so hard, you plan all you want and then God laughs in 18 00:01:10,768 --> 00:01:11,129 your face. 19 00:01:11,129 --> 00:01:14,843 So unfortunately, cece's under the weather and has actually 20 00:01:14,903 --> 00:01:18,429 lost her voice, so that does not make for good podcasting. 21 00:01:18,429 --> 00:01:23,763 The goal was to have all four of us me, patrick, feathers and 22 00:01:23,781 --> 00:01:29,153 CeCe all together and just rehash the last five years of 23 00:01:29,253 --> 00:01:30,093 jaded HR. 24 00:01:30,093 --> 00:01:32,623 And that has you know. 25 00:01:32,623 --> 00:01:35,111 Like I said, make a plan and God laughs in your face. 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,025 Patrick: And now you're just disappointed. 27 00:01:37,025 --> 00:01:38,986 You're stuck with just a little old me. 28 00:01:38,986 --> 00:01:39,828 Oh no, no. 29 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:43,385 Warren: I'm looking forward to this because, you know, go back 30 00:01:43,406 --> 00:01:46,933 to the OG of the first days. 31 00:01:46,933 --> 00:01:51,069 Yeah, I remember bringing up the idea of wanting to do a 32 00:01:51,108 --> 00:01:51,629 podcast. 33 00:01:53,102 --> 00:01:55,647 Patrick: I remember we had lunch at Mission, barbecue and hashed 34 00:01:55,647 --> 00:01:56,370 out some ideas. 35 00:01:56,549 --> 00:01:59,126 Warren: Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun. 36 00:01:59,126 --> 00:02:00,763 And you know we got. 37 00:02:00,763 --> 00:02:03,990 You know COVID hadn't quite when we planned it all out, 38 00:02:04,051 --> 00:02:05,033 covid hadn't happened. 39 00:02:05,033 --> 00:02:07,753 And you know that's when everybody and their brother 40 00:02:07,772 --> 00:02:09,139 started launching podcasts. 41 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:10,782 It was during COVID. 42 00:02:10,782 --> 00:02:16,155 But we went in and we planned, and we planned and we planned 43 00:02:16,254 --> 00:02:19,162 and we recorded a bunch of episodes beforehand and we 44 00:02:19,181 --> 00:02:21,149 figured out what we're going to do and how we're going to do it. 45 00:02:22,663 --> 00:02:24,670 Patrick: And then Phil didn't catch that, covid wait. 46 00:02:25,401 --> 00:02:28,028 Warren: No, we didn't catch the COVID weight, but it was a lot 47 00:02:28,049 --> 00:02:28,210 of fun. 48 00:02:28,210 --> 00:02:31,848 And listening to some of those COVID episodes and earlier 49 00:02:31,888 --> 00:02:34,133 episodes it's really interesting . 50 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:36,504 You know you use the term in one of them, it. 51 00:02:36,504 --> 00:02:40,986 You know some of our ideas age like milk and it's very, very 52 00:02:41,046 --> 00:02:41,348 true. 53 00:02:41,348 --> 00:02:46,629 And thinking of some things, I remember one of our first maybe 54 00:02:46,691 --> 00:02:48,174 10 episodes or something like that. 55 00:02:48,174 --> 00:02:52,705 That's when the Crown Act got passed and I was so like why the 56 00:02:52,705 --> 00:02:54,150 fuck do you need a Crown Act? 57 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:57,969 Nobody discriminates on hair or , in my case, lack of it or 58 00:02:58,009 --> 00:02:58,512 anything like that. 59 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,199 And it wasn't a few months later. 60 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:05,248 And then you have a court case and I'm like how stupid can 61 00:03:05,288 --> 00:03:05,889 people be? 62 00:03:05,889 --> 00:03:10,681 And you know, I just maybe I don't know, maybe I'm just 63 00:03:10,763 --> 00:03:16,032 living in a too ideal of a world being a jaded podcast like what 64 00:03:16,032 --> 00:03:16,032 . 65 00:03:16,032 --> 00:03:17,181 We don't need a crown act. 66 00:03:17,181 --> 00:03:23,010 That's stupid and proved me wrong has. 67 00:03:23,031 --> 00:03:25,555 Patrick: The whole premise of the podcast is that even how did 68 00:03:25,555 --> 00:03:25,995 that age? 69 00:03:25,995 --> 00:03:27,667 Do you feel after five years? 70 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:29,282 The premise. 71 00:03:29,623 --> 00:03:33,385 Warren: You know I don't think I've been as jaded the last two 72 00:03:33,445 --> 00:03:35,766 or three, especially the last year. 73 00:03:35,766 --> 00:03:38,725 You know CC and I come and everyone's all this isn't going 74 00:03:38,746 --> 00:03:41,927 to be that jaded of an episode or anything like that. 75 00:03:41,927 --> 00:03:43,224 But stay tuned, fans. 76 00:03:43,224 --> 00:03:47,551 I've got a real jaded episode coming up soon and yes, I still 77 00:03:47,572 --> 00:03:51,270 have not launched the Office rewatch episode yet. 78 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:54,590 Yeah, I'll get to that, it's coming soon. 79 00:03:56,201 --> 00:03:58,734 We've been promising, you know we just started if you haven't 80 00:03:58,753 --> 00:04:02,930 listened, patrick, we've started going through the Office 81 00:04:03,151 --> 00:04:06,748 podcast or the Office episode by episode and breaking it down on 82 00:04:06,748 --> 00:04:09,807 hr standpoint and funny points and things like that. 83 00:04:09,807 --> 00:04:10,790 And the. 84 00:04:10,790 --> 00:04:14,663 The one we we recorded and we had some technical difficulties 85 00:04:14,703 --> 00:04:17,911 and that's what's taken so long was diversity day, which is one 86 00:04:17,930 --> 00:04:20,704 of the best episodes. 87 00:04:20,704 --> 00:04:23,908 But we, you know we talked about it. 88 00:04:23,908 --> 00:04:28,100 You, they, nbc no, no major network's going to touch half 89 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,521 the shit. 90 00:04:28,521 --> 00:04:28,923 They did. 91 00:04:28,923 --> 00:04:33,016 You know 20, you know 20 years ago when those episodes came out 92 00:04:33,016 --> 00:04:36,408 and but now you know some of the. 93 00:04:36,408 --> 00:04:38,516 You know the diversity day is a perfect example. 94 00:04:38,516 --> 00:04:42,468 Harassment is another perfect example, I mean, of things that 95 00:04:43,209 --> 00:04:46,218 they couldn't make it through the sensors for network 96 00:04:46,298 --> 00:04:47,904 television any longer. 97 00:04:47,904 --> 00:04:52,165 But yeah, that episode it's coming, just like Christmas it's 98 00:04:52,165 --> 00:04:55,786 coming, I will sit down and devote some time to actually 99 00:04:55,927 --> 00:04:58,843 edit, because we got disconnected, I think twice, if 100 00:04:58,903 --> 00:05:01,779 not three times, and the audio didn't sync up right. 101 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:05,670 It's going to take me parsing and cutting and snipping and 102 00:05:05,689 --> 00:05:06,833 sliding it back together. 103 00:05:07,459 --> 00:05:12,288 Patrick: I don't miss those days of learning your intricate so I 104 00:05:12,288 --> 00:05:16,422 knew what signal something to look for in each of the With AI. 105 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:19,069 Warren: Now I edit almost all of them out with a click of a 106 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:19,290 button. 107 00:05:19,290 --> 00:05:21,427 It's just all the elements. 108 00:05:21,427 --> 00:05:24,860 But here's something I have resolved for future podcasts. 109 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:28,004 I have it written down on sticky right here at the end of 110 00:05:28,024 --> 00:05:32,819 my monitor talk slower, because sometimes when I'm getting into 111 00:05:32,939 --> 00:05:35,266 something, I start getting really excited and that's when 112 00:05:35,286 --> 00:05:40,603 all the ums and the categorical talking happens and I need to 113 00:05:40,624 --> 00:05:44,930 just slow down, think about what I'm saying and talk like a real 114 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,095 adult human being rather than a six-year-old who is on a sugar 115 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:48,334 high. 116 00:05:48,334 --> 00:05:51,387 Because even listening back to some of the episodes, I was like 117 00:05:51,387 --> 00:05:53,853 wow, I'm just out there. 118 00:05:54,942 --> 00:05:55,545 Patrick: We all do that. 119 00:05:55,545 --> 00:06:01,184 I talk incredibly fast most of the time I've mentioned before. 120 00:06:01,305 --> 00:06:02,168 Warren: I fast cast. 121 00:06:02,168 --> 00:06:04,728 My minimum speed is around 1.8. 122 00:06:04,728 --> 00:06:12,814 I'm in college and I'm taking classes online and I can speed 123 00:06:12,834 --> 00:06:13,175 the video. 124 00:06:13,175 --> 00:06:17,011 Now you only get 1 or you get like 0.5. 125 00:06:17,011 --> 00:06:19,869 They're in half marker so I can't do 2. 126 00:06:19,869 --> 00:06:23,302 But I could do 1.5 for most of my classes and if I need to back 127 00:06:23,302 --> 00:06:27,064 it up, I back it up and relisten, but I can't listen to 128 00:06:27,105 --> 00:06:27,706 anything at one. 129 00:06:27,706 --> 00:06:28,588 X, I, I, I. 130 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:36,271 It just drives me insane and I think nobody talks that slow as 131 00:06:36,310 --> 00:06:37,132 I'm listening to. 132 00:06:37,132 --> 00:06:43,002 If I, if I do have to turn it off, turn off the speed, like I 133 00:06:43,041 --> 00:06:44,824 don't know, there's some podcasts out there bad, I have 134 00:06:44,843 --> 00:06:46,745 to turn it off and turn off the speed, like I don't know, but 135 00:06:46,766 --> 00:06:48,408 there's some podcasts out there bad audio, and that I do listen 136 00:06:48,427 --> 00:06:49,028 to and things like that. 137 00:06:49,028 --> 00:06:50,730 So yeah, I've never fast. 138 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:51,692 Patrick: I've never fast. 139 00:06:51,692 --> 00:06:52,411 What do you call it? 140 00:06:52,473 --> 00:06:53,273 Warren: Speed, fast cast. 141 00:06:53,894 --> 00:06:55,776 Patrick: Never fast cast today Podcast. 142 00:06:56,196 --> 00:06:57,158 Warren: Well, or anything. 143 00:06:57,158 --> 00:07:00,480 One of the one of the one of the podcasts you got me into 144 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:02,723 which I'm not listening to anymore is my brother, my 145 00:07:02,783 --> 00:07:03,184 brother, me. 146 00:07:03,184 --> 00:07:06,548 Now, I could not do them any more than like 1.5, is they? 147 00:07:06,987 --> 00:07:09,511 Patrick: they talk really quick they talk very fast, especially 148 00:07:09,550 --> 00:07:09,711 when. 149 00:07:09,711 --> 00:07:12,173 That's why, if me and my brother did a podcast, it would 150 00:07:12,194 --> 00:07:16,045 be probably unlistenable because we talk so fast to each other 151 00:07:16,425 --> 00:07:17,389 and sound very much alike. 152 00:07:17,389 --> 00:07:19,999 So yeah, you do sound alike yes , you're very bad. 153 00:07:20,098 --> 00:07:22,764 Warren: Yeah, man, so it's been. 154 00:07:22,764 --> 00:07:26,310 We're just talking a while off air that it's been almost a year 155 00:07:26,310 --> 00:07:28,014 since you were on last. 156 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:31,045 You came on for a fourth anniversary and then you also 157 00:07:31,387 --> 00:07:34,752 pinch hit a couple of times for Cece when she was on maternity 158 00:07:34,814 --> 00:07:39,050 leave Our very generous non-paid maternity leave at Jaden. 159 00:07:39,190 --> 00:07:39,432 Andrew Quolpa: HR. 160 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:42,807 Warren: What anything fun going on in your world that you want 161 00:07:42,826 --> 00:07:43,168 to share. 162 00:07:43,208 --> 00:07:46,882 Patrick: For the last almost year, it's funny, my role has 163 00:07:47,182 --> 00:07:50,572 been slowly evolving away from HR more and more. 164 00:07:50,572 --> 00:07:53,608 I'm so much more on the IT side of things, so I'm just trying 165 00:07:53,629 --> 00:07:54,029 to figure out. 166 00:07:54,029 --> 00:07:56,447 I mean, it's like man, am I even able, qualified, to do an 167 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:57,711 HR podcast at this point? 168 00:07:57,711 --> 00:08:04,247 Well, I was going to say I do think I am, because I'm still in 169 00:08:04,247 --> 00:08:05,031 the HR department. 170 00:08:05,031 --> 00:08:09,603 I'm still in the HR department, I'm still, like, very involved 171 00:08:09,622 --> 00:08:09,682 in. 172 00:08:09,682 --> 00:08:10,904 Well, let's see what your, what was your? 173 00:08:11,165 --> 00:08:12,005 Warren: Oh, I was just going to. 174 00:08:12,005 --> 00:08:15,550 You know, my company just stole one of your company's employees 175 00:08:15,550 --> 00:08:17,853 and I met him for a little while. 176 00:08:17,853 --> 00:08:19,896 He started Monday, it's only Tuesday today. 177 00:08:19,896 --> 00:08:22,641 Talk to him a little bit again today. 178 00:08:22,641 --> 00:08:24,927 I think so far I've got really high expectations, really high 179 00:08:24,947 --> 00:08:28,701 hopes for him and he had a nice thing to say about you, but he 180 00:08:28,742 --> 00:08:31,129 did say you're a ghost and they aren't allowed to touch. 181 00:08:31,129 --> 00:08:33,808 They aren't allowed to touch the computer that's on your desk 182 00:08:33,808 --> 00:08:33,808 . 183 00:08:34,460 --> 00:08:36,634 Patrick: Yeah, I went in for the first time into the office I'm 184 00:08:36,654 --> 00:08:39,942 still very fortunate that remote has not been taken from me and 185 00:08:39,961 --> 00:08:42,847 to get a new computer for here and all that fun stuff but we 186 00:08:42,868 --> 00:08:43,428 were talking about. 187 00:08:43,428 --> 00:08:46,745 I know you guys have touched like AI a few times, but that 188 00:08:46,764 --> 00:08:47,567 was something you know. 189 00:08:47,567 --> 00:08:50,182 We didn't really have a whole lot of topics today besides just 190 00:08:50,182 --> 00:08:51,889 kind of shooting around a little bit. 191 00:08:51,889 --> 00:08:56,302 But we're starting to do some things where it's like man I'm, 192 00:08:56,322 --> 00:08:58,389 you know my role in HR is disappearing. 193 00:08:58,389 --> 00:09:01,982 And then I'm like you know we're creating these like HR 194 00:09:02,104 --> 00:09:09,293 chatbots, faculty manual and all these different like faqs and 195 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:13,471 things, so that really like yeah , hoping that it it gets rid of 196 00:09:13,491 --> 00:09:14,373 some of these questions. 197 00:09:14,373 --> 00:09:19,211 But you know, as the like it hr side of me is has evolved, it's 198 00:09:19,211 --> 00:09:22,638 like I'm also kind of almost putting myself out of a job here 199 00:09:22,638 --> 00:09:25,673 eventually because I'm really all these things are evolving to 200 00:09:25,673 --> 00:09:28,607 the point where it's doing it's freeing up a lot of my time, 201 00:09:28,648 --> 00:09:30,113 but it I don't want it to free up too much. 202 00:09:38,585 --> 00:09:39,649 Warren: Well, no, I you know, I don't know exactly what you're 203 00:09:39,669 --> 00:09:40,995 doing, but I think AI will continue to evolve and it's 204 00:09:41,015 --> 00:09:41,899 going to continue to need your support. 205 00:09:41,899 --> 00:09:45,008 You know I've quoted any number of times Tim Sackett, who, by 206 00:09:45,048 --> 00:09:48,152 the way, a few episodes ago, maybe three or four, I was 207 00:09:48,211 --> 00:09:52,018 listening to podcasts, that I was listing podcasts that are on 208 00:09:52,018 --> 00:09:53,801 my list that I haven't taken off, that gone away. 209 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:55,532 Well, hr Famous is back. 210 00:09:55,532 --> 00:09:58,500 It ended up in my feed a few weeks ago and I've been 211 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,205 listening to it again. 212 00:09:59,205 --> 00:10:02,111 But anyways, going back to Tim Sackett, I always quote him. 213 00:10:02,111 --> 00:10:03,976 You're not going to lose your job to AI. 214 00:10:03,976 --> 00:10:06,552 You're going to lose your job to someone who knows how to use 215 00:10:06,714 --> 00:10:16,650 AI, knows how to use AI and you and your position is probably in 216 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:18,096 a very key, critical role that you have the IT knowledge and 217 00:10:18,116 --> 00:10:18,498 IT's just. 218 00:10:18,498 --> 00:10:20,283 I mean AI is just going to continue to evolve. 219 00:10:20,283 --> 00:10:23,826 I mean, just think of how far it's come in. 220 00:10:24,767 --> 00:10:26,628 Even the last year, I used and I don't have any examples here I 221 00:10:26,649 --> 00:10:29,850 used and I don't have any examples here I used AI to make 222 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:36,413 some beer labels for my homebrew and the graphics, the images 223 00:10:36,494 --> 00:10:39,056 were good, but all the words were all jacked up. 224 00:10:39,056 --> 00:10:42,557 Yeah, it put in not even characters in there that were 225 00:10:42,576 --> 00:10:44,839 supposed to look like letters and things, Even when I told it 226 00:10:44,859 --> 00:10:48,020 to say specifically write this and it couldn't. 227 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:51,822 Now you can say, oh, I want it to say this and it does. 228 00:10:51,822 --> 00:11:01,149 That's just been in the past few months and it's come so far 229 00:11:01,169 --> 00:11:02,072 and it's only going to continue to evolve. 230 00:11:02,072 --> 00:11:02,573 But I love that idea. 231 00:11:02,573 --> 00:11:05,503 I know we use the same HRS system, so or you have the 232 00:11:05,543 --> 00:11:08,630 higher version of it than we do, but Well, I will say it doesn't 233 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:08,630 . 234 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:11,076 Patrick: It doesn't integrate great, but we're finding ways to 235 00:11:11,076 --> 00:11:12,313 stick it in. 236 00:11:13,341 --> 00:11:15,745 Warren: I really want to do that , especially. 237 00:11:15,745 --> 00:11:19,529 We just launched yesterday, monday, our annual training for 238 00:11:19,610 --> 00:11:23,985 all of our employees, and people don't go into the HRS, they go 239 00:11:24,105 --> 00:11:28,548 in for annual training, they go in for reviews and they go in 240 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:29,793 for Open enrollment. 241 00:11:29,793 --> 00:11:31,750 Oh no, we don't use it for open enrollment. 242 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:32,451 I want to. 243 00:11:32,653 --> 00:11:33,335 What's the third thing? 244 00:11:33,335 --> 00:11:36,751 Anyways, there's a third thing which I can't think of right now 245 00:11:36,751 --> 00:11:40,421 that they go in for once, so, but nobody remembers their 246 00:11:40,461 --> 00:11:40,904 password. 247 00:11:40,904 --> 00:11:44,447 So it's been, and even though there's a link at the bottom, oh 248 00:11:44,447 --> 00:11:45,307 , forgot your password. 249 00:11:45,307 --> 00:11:49,850 And in the email I said if you forget your password, please use 250 00:11:49,850 --> 00:11:52,792 the forgot your password before you hit the fifth try. 251 00:11:52,792 --> 00:11:54,952 So you know, I'm locked out. 252 00:11:54,952 --> 00:11:55,633 I'm locked out. 253 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:59,475 Patrick: One of the best things that we did was go to single 254 00:11:59,495 --> 00:12:04,337 sign-on, so people used to use their Microsoft Azure login for 255 00:12:04,398 --> 00:12:04,597 the. 256 00:12:04,597 --> 00:12:08,159 Hrs and yeah, so it's like the same thing that they use for 257 00:12:08,179 --> 00:12:11,863 their, you know, workstation and Outlook and Teams, they can use 258 00:12:11,863 --> 00:12:12,903 for our HR portal. 259 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:16,370 Warren: And it's beautiful. 260 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:19,267 I wish we'd go in that direction, though I'd still have 261 00:12:19,267 --> 00:12:21,715 people like I'm locked out, I can't get in, yeah. 262 00:12:22,245 --> 00:12:24,499 Patrick: See, we have that now, but now HR doesn't have to deal 263 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:25,585 with it, it can deal with it. 264 00:12:25,585 --> 00:12:28,828 It can deal with it Because it's now an IT problem. 265 00:12:29,551 --> 00:12:30,072 Warren: Oh man. 266 00:12:30,072 --> 00:12:33,639 So yeah, I really would love something like that. 267 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:38,575 And in terms of HR technology, I really I'm excited, you know, 268 00:12:38,735 --> 00:12:42,726 once again, not being so jaded we were talking off there, We'll 269 00:12:42,726 --> 00:12:45,850 get to that later but I'm really excited where HR 270 00:12:45,889 --> 00:12:49,176 technology is going and what's going to come around the corner, 271 00:12:49,176 --> 00:12:50,359 what's going to happen next. 272 00:12:50,359 --> 00:12:55,855 And I think AI is going to play a critical role, and I know all 273 00:12:55,855 --> 00:12:59,188 all the haters out there think oh, ai is screening out resumes 274 00:12:59,308 --> 00:13:02,376 and discriminating against me and all this other stuff, I'm 275 00:13:02,417 --> 00:13:05,413 like no it's it, it really isn't you. 276 00:13:05,553 --> 00:13:09,004 You have a sucky resume, but yeah you have a sucky resume, 277 00:13:09,024 --> 00:13:10,528 you're applying for the wrong jobs. 278 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:13,336 You're, you're, you're not qualified for the ones. 279 00:13:13,336 --> 00:13:16,265 You these people you see on reddit I've submitted over a 280 00:13:16,306 --> 00:13:20,460 thousand applications and okay, yeah, you submitted a thousand 281 00:13:20,539 --> 00:13:21,162 applications. 282 00:13:21,162 --> 00:13:22,868 I'm I'm very sure of it. 283 00:13:22,868 --> 00:13:25,275 So you know, or what are you applying to? 284 00:13:25,275 --> 00:13:25,697 That you're? 285 00:13:25,697 --> 00:13:26,500 Are you? 286 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,905 You know, are you coming out mcdonald's and you want to be a 287 00:13:28,947 --> 00:13:30,048 brain surgeon or something? 288 00:13:30,048 --> 00:13:33,993 It's not going to happen like that. 289 00:13:33,993 --> 00:13:38,719 So social media is the devil and I've done a very good job of 290 00:13:38,719 --> 00:13:52,684 staying away from it lately thing. 291 00:13:52,705 --> 00:13:53,726 Patrick: It's also from a, from a potentially taking job away. 292 00:13:53,726 --> 00:13:55,289 I mean, ai is also now like guiding through step-by-step 293 00:13:55,629 --> 00:14:00,197 processes, so like there are our expense tool we use, which I'm 294 00:14:00,258 --> 00:14:04,594 also now like the administrator for our expensive travel system 295 00:14:04,714 --> 00:14:08,062 because, reasons I still don't know. 296 00:14:08,062 --> 00:14:11,152 But I mean, yeah, there's like a whole new ai thing that will. 297 00:14:11,152 --> 00:14:15,451 Oh, I see you've entered in two receipts for this expense 298 00:14:15,552 --> 00:14:15,852 report. 299 00:14:15,852 --> 00:14:18,707 You only need one and, by the way, you're over by your per 300 00:14:18,748 --> 00:14:19,429 diem by two. 301 00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:22,643 You know like, looks at all these different roles and sees 302 00:14:22,682 --> 00:14:25,308 what the employee is doing and, like, guides them through. 303 00:14:25,308 --> 00:14:29,577 Yeah it's, uh, it's, it's pretty, it's a cool front to be 304 00:14:29,658 --> 00:14:31,889 on right now and I've always loved the. 305 00:14:31,889 --> 00:14:35,375 I've always liked the aspect of HR when I was in the office 306 00:14:35,436 --> 00:14:36,759 because you get a lot of stories . 307 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:39,991 That part of it is fun, but I hated the actual HR work of it. 308 00:14:39,991 --> 00:14:44,429 I don't like the dealing with people, but I love these 309 00:14:44,490 --> 00:14:48,274 implementations and integrating the different systems that a 310 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:49,995 company has and making them work . 311 00:14:49,995 --> 00:14:54,321 That part is very appealing and continues to be a fun challenge 312 00:14:54,321 --> 00:14:54,321 . 313 00:14:54,321 --> 00:14:59,745 But still, being remote, the HR part of it is not as enjoyable 314 00:14:59,764 --> 00:15:04,937 because I'm not in the office to hear all of the fun stories and 315 00:15:04,937 --> 00:15:06,895 things like that, and that definitely is probably one of 316 00:15:06,937 --> 00:15:10,133 the biggest downsides of the remote life. 317 00:15:10,133 --> 00:15:13,889 I see a bunch of Teams messages come by and like, oh, what was 318 00:15:13,909 --> 00:15:14,311 that about? 319 00:15:14,311 --> 00:15:16,566 I'll like ask our director, like, hey, what did I miss? 320 00:15:16,566 --> 00:15:19,091 And it's not as fun to get filled in after the fact. 321 00:15:19,331 --> 00:15:24,828 Warren: So now, I never thought that I would like working in a a 322 00:15:24,828 --> 00:15:27,013 cubicle environment like we did . 323 00:15:27,013 --> 00:15:32,246 I I'd never worked in that type of environment, even my first, 324 00:15:32,528 --> 00:15:35,336 I don't know five years at the company we worked at together. 325 00:15:35,336 --> 00:15:39,976 I had my own office or I was sequestered away someplace else 326 00:15:40,466 --> 00:15:43,770 and then we got cubes and I really thought I was going to 327 00:15:43,791 --> 00:15:47,644 hate it, but I didn't, and part of it's the team we had but 328 00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:53,784 listening in and messing with each other and just I don't know 329 00:15:53,784 --> 00:15:54,135 it was. 330 00:15:54,135 --> 00:15:59,212 It was so much fun in hearing what is what you're dealing with 331 00:15:59,212 --> 00:16:01,278 , what I'm dealing with, what other people are dealing with 332 00:16:01,359 --> 00:16:04,760 and, and you know, commiserating with them or getting a laugh 333 00:16:04,861 --> 00:16:07,461 out of it, or something like that the claps after you know 334 00:16:07,481 --> 00:16:09,715 you're on the phone for an hour and 30 minutes with one employee 335 00:16:09,715 --> 00:16:11,442 and you finally hang up, you know. 336 00:16:13,438 --> 00:16:16,916 Yeah, exactly those. 337 00:16:16,916 --> 00:16:18,125 Those are the fun things that are hanging a superman from 338 00:16:18,147 --> 00:16:21,039 somebody above somebody's desk and then the VP of HR walks in 339 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,244 while we're doing that. 340 00:16:22,244 --> 00:16:26,481 It was like, oh hi, she didn't bat an eye like just another day 341 00:16:26,481 --> 00:16:27,885 in our HR department. 342 00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:28,957 Patrick: I do still have. 343 00:16:28,957 --> 00:16:29,981 I still have a Superman. 344 00:16:29,981 --> 00:16:32,081 I still have the grass squirrels. 345 00:16:32,081 --> 00:16:34,255 Okay, I think those were yours. 346 00:16:34,255 --> 00:16:36,238 I don't remember what the story was with the squirrels, but I 347 00:16:36,258 --> 00:16:39,802 still have a lot of these things , the squirrels were mine. 348 00:16:40,022 --> 00:16:44,066 Warren: Desiree got them for me because I was a squirrel and ADD 349 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:49,591 to the extreme, and I left them behind as a memento Keepsake. 350 00:16:49,591 --> 00:16:55,097 And now, of our team, you're the only one left. 351 00:16:55,118 --> 00:16:58,044 Patrick: I start to look at my overall HR career, not just at 352 00:16:58,065 --> 00:16:59,849 my current company but at previous companies. 353 00:16:59,849 --> 00:17:03,403 I'm like man, I tend to hang around and I see a lot of HR 354 00:17:03,423 --> 00:17:07,699 teams turn over around me and I kind of start to look inward. 355 00:17:07,699 --> 00:17:09,144 Am I the problem? 356 00:17:09,726 --> 00:17:09,826 Warren: No. 357 00:17:10,474 --> 00:17:11,496 Patrick: Which I know is not the case. 358 00:17:11,936 --> 00:17:12,596 Warren: It is funny. 359 00:17:13,397 --> 00:17:15,559 Patrick: I've seen a lot of HR teams come and go at the last 360 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,741 two places I've been at, so it's kind of funny. 361 00:17:17,962 --> 00:17:20,724 Warren: Yeah, unfortunately, most of us all left at the same 362 00:17:20,785 --> 00:17:20,986 time. 363 00:17:20,986 --> 00:17:22,007 We left you all. 364 00:17:22,007 --> 00:17:23,607 All of us left you at the same time. 365 00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:31,477 When I left, I was the second to go in our team and then I 366 00:17:32,582 --> 00:17:33,645 think everybody else came afterwards. 367 00:17:33,645 --> 00:17:38,656 So, yeah, no, but that was absolutely a lot of fun. 368 00:17:38,676 --> 00:17:39,839 And now I'm entering tomorrow. 369 00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:42,526 I've got a conference to go to for that's hr specifically to 370 00:17:42,546 --> 00:17:45,259 the industry I work in, the engineering and maritime 371 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:49,493 industry I work in, and then two weeks from now is the virginia 372 00:17:49,534 --> 00:17:51,719 state sherm conference and I'm going to. 373 00:17:51,719 --> 00:17:56,048 I'm going to be really coming back with some ammo during and 374 00:17:56,248 --> 00:17:56,709 after that. 375 00:17:56,709 --> 00:18:00,665 We'll be recording before it ends, but I'm just commuting 376 00:18:00,726 --> 00:18:00,946 there. 377 00:18:00,946 --> 00:18:04,415 I'm not going to spend the night or anything like that, but 378 00:18:04,415 --> 00:18:06,761 when it sounds like they're charging for parking, I may as 379 00:18:06,801 --> 00:18:09,248 well get a hotel room and spend the night. 380 00:18:09,248 --> 00:18:10,779 But I'll deal with that. 381 00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:12,144 I'll deal with that. 382 00:18:12,144 --> 00:18:16,807 But, yeah, a lot of fun things going on, but I do, I really am 383 00:18:17,371 --> 00:18:17,773 into AI. 384 00:18:17,773 --> 00:18:23,125 I'm hoping that you know the HRS system, that you know they 385 00:18:23,164 --> 00:18:28,259 did this whole long spiel not January of 25, but January of 24 386 00:18:28,259 --> 00:18:31,685 , about they're all in on AI. 387 00:18:31,685 --> 00:18:36,061 They're all in, and a year and four months later now we don't 388 00:18:36,103 --> 00:18:36,584 have anything. 389 00:18:37,696 --> 00:18:38,942 Patrick: Not been a whole lot on that front. 390 00:18:38,942 --> 00:18:42,200 They're also sunsetting a lot of their older things that we 391 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:44,982 still use, that we're having to oh really. 392 00:18:45,798 --> 00:18:47,477 Warren: Yeah, my version does not have that. 393 00:18:47,477 --> 00:18:51,003 But, like you said, you've got the Supreme Edition, we've got 394 00:18:51,521 --> 00:18:56,865 the Beginner's Edition of it, but I do enjoy it a little bit 395 00:18:57,046 --> 00:18:57,288 there. 396 00:18:57,288 --> 00:19:01,304 So the past five years what I don't know how often you've 397 00:19:01,384 --> 00:19:01,685 listened. 398 00:19:01,685 --> 00:19:02,650 You don't have to sell. 399 00:19:02,650 --> 00:19:04,584 You don't have to butter me up and say, oh, I listen to every 400 00:19:04,604 --> 00:19:07,017 episode because I know you don't , but I download all of you 401 00:19:07,097 --> 00:19:07,640 every episode. 402 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,865 Oh, you download them all. 403 00:19:08,884 --> 00:19:12,117 See, apple we were talking a little while earlier up until of 404 00:19:12,117 --> 00:19:17,957 february or april 2023, that would count as a download and if 405 00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:20,462 you actually played it for more than six seconds, I'd get a 406 00:19:20,923 --> 00:19:21,886 play stat out of it. 407 00:19:21,886 --> 00:19:25,676 But Apple realized they were double counting and you know, 408 00:19:25,718 --> 00:19:28,651 all these shows that were supposedly having millions and 409 00:19:28,691 --> 00:19:32,917 millions of downloads only had millions, and likewise we went 410 00:19:32,958 --> 00:19:38,467 from thousands of downloads to a thousand downloads or so, like 411 00:19:38,586 --> 00:19:40,490 that, after they fixed that. 412 00:19:40,490 --> 00:19:43,664 But, yeah, a lot of fun things. 413 00:19:43,664 --> 00:19:50,282 Going back to year one and two with us, was there any episode 414 00:19:50,303 --> 00:19:55,089 that stood out to you as one of your favorite episodes to do? 415 00:19:58,154 --> 00:19:59,599 Patrick: it out to you as one of your your favorite episodes to 416 00:19:59,619 --> 00:19:59,740 to do. 417 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:01,224 I always liked the, the one where we went off tangent on 418 00:20:01,244 --> 00:20:03,050 harry potter, because that was just a very spur of the moment 419 00:20:03,873 --> 00:20:04,736 off tangent one. 420 00:20:04,736 --> 00:20:10,612 I enjoyed the we tried to do like a get our hr team on a zoom 421 00:20:10,612 --> 00:20:14,445 call to do an episode and that was like a disaster but it was 422 00:20:14,486 --> 00:20:14,827 fun. 423 00:20:15,088 --> 00:20:18,058 Warren: Yeah, we had a virtual happy hour, that was. 424 00:20:18,058 --> 00:20:19,182 Yeah, that was cool. 425 00:20:19,201 --> 00:20:19,623 Patrick: I was trying to. 426 00:20:19,623 --> 00:20:20,605 I was trying to go back. 427 00:20:20,605 --> 00:20:22,819 One thing I've been proud of is I was really proud. 428 00:20:22,819 --> 00:20:25,406 I was always really proud of like the titles of episodes. 429 00:20:25,406 --> 00:20:27,182 But I think you've actually done a pretty good job of like 430 00:20:27,846 --> 00:20:30,155 for the most part, every now and then getting in some more 431 00:20:30,215 --> 00:20:34,605 creative titles and keeping it yeah I think you've done a good 432 00:20:34,625 --> 00:20:37,115 job of keeping the title game going, which I really appreciate 433 00:20:37,115 --> 00:20:41,484 yeah, so we didn't ever discuss this before the. 434 00:20:41,765 --> 00:20:43,955 Warren: Well, patrick was originally with us. 435 00:20:43,955 --> 00:20:48,691 He did all the editing that's why he was so very familiar with 436 00:20:48,691 --> 00:20:53,260 my pattern in the sound wave and he also did the the title 437 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,663 creation and things like that. 438 00:20:54,663 --> 00:20:59,557 Now, before ChatGPT and all that stuff, well, our host 439 00:20:59,798 --> 00:21:03,224 Buzzsprout, they offer, and I pay a little bit extra to use 440 00:21:03,244 --> 00:21:06,130 their AI services, but it does a lot. 441 00:21:06,130 --> 00:21:10,376 You know, a little plug for our host Buzzsprout when I upload 442 00:21:10,417 --> 00:21:15,637 an episode it will give me suggestions for titles and I'll 443 00:21:15,659 --> 00:21:17,055 talk about that a little bit more next week. 444 00:21:17,055 --> 00:21:18,838 That's on my, my rant for next week. 445 00:21:18,838 --> 00:21:23,769 But also, like two or three episodes ago, the title was 446 00:21:23,875 --> 00:21:27,429 weaponizing incompetence and I you know that's something cc 447 00:21:27,469 --> 00:21:30,978 said in the middle of the episode and I I wrote it down to 448 00:21:30,978 --> 00:21:33,863 say that's like that's, the title is a good one. 449 00:21:34,123 --> 00:21:34,743 And things like that. 450 00:21:34,743 --> 00:21:39,049 But I've also used AI for it'll generate. 451 00:21:39,049 --> 00:21:41,343 What it does is it gives you a list of five titles. 452 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:43,742 You can pick them or you can enter your own. 453 00:21:43,742 --> 00:21:44,920 It does the show notes. 454 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,660 It's funny with the show notes. 455 00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:47,804 It'll be interesting to see. 456 00:21:47,804 --> 00:21:50,324 It shouldn't have any problem with your name, but with CC, 457 00:21:51,055 --> 00:21:54,214 sometimes it gets her name right , sometimes it doesn't, and it's 458 00:21:54,214 --> 00:21:56,296 all over the place. 459 00:21:56,296 --> 00:22:00,977 With the AI it does transcripts and creates chapter markers and 460 00:22:00,977 --> 00:22:04,136 does all that other fun stuff that nobody uses. 461 00:22:04,136 --> 00:22:06,017 I don't use chapter markers. 462 00:22:06,017 --> 00:22:09,298 I don't think my podcast player can handle chapter markers or 463 00:22:09,337 --> 00:22:12,699 anything like that, but it does a lot for me. 464 00:22:13,278 --> 00:22:17,898 Editing the software I use to edit is done AI. 465 00:22:17,898 --> 00:22:23,021 I let the cat out of the bag that I between. 466 00:22:23,021 --> 00:22:26,066 I'll take credit for most of them, but between Cece and I, 467 00:22:27,188 --> 00:22:32,575 generally speaking, there's about 400 to 500 ums we edit out 468 00:22:32,575 --> 00:22:35,622 of the podcast and you can tell . 469 00:22:35,622 --> 00:22:40,849 If you go back to like two years ago, the technology it was 470 00:22:40,849 --> 00:22:43,074 very you could tell it was clipped out. 471 00:22:43,074 --> 00:22:43,894 Something was clipped out. 472 00:22:43,894 --> 00:22:49,684 Now you can't tell, and that's something that I find really the 473 00:22:49,684 --> 00:22:50,587 technology is doing. 474 00:22:51,261 --> 00:22:56,221 If we did a video podcast, it can keep me in my ADD eyes, sort 475 00:22:56,221 --> 00:22:56,320 of. 476 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,556 Even if I'm looking away, it can keep my head looking at the 477 00:22:59,576 --> 00:23:02,905 monitor and looking into the camera, even though I'm not 478 00:23:02,945 --> 00:23:03,307 doing that. 479 00:23:03,307 --> 00:23:04,404 But we aren't. 480 00:23:04,404 --> 00:23:04,926 You know. 481 00:23:04,926 --> 00:23:08,464 We keep toying that we're going to do some video podcasts, but 482 00:23:08,644 --> 00:23:09,646 it's a lot of work to do. 483 00:23:09,646 --> 00:23:12,391 Just what the hell we're doing much less having to deal with 484 00:23:12,431 --> 00:23:13,894 video as well. 485 00:23:13,894 --> 00:23:17,122 So, yep, one thing I do want to announce. 486 00:23:17,122 --> 00:23:21,627 I meant to say earlier, patrick your logo that you created five 487 00:23:21,627 --> 00:23:24,672 years ago, or over five years ago now, is going to be 488 00:23:24,711 --> 00:23:25,292 sunsetted. 489 00:23:25,292 --> 00:23:26,253 You use the term. 490 00:23:26,253 --> 00:23:27,275 It's so funny. 491 00:23:27,375 --> 00:23:27,855 Patrick: I just. 492 00:23:27,855 --> 00:23:29,685 I just looked at it on your email. 493 00:23:29,685 --> 00:23:32,387 I was like I cannot believe they're still using that logo 494 00:23:32,428 --> 00:23:36,548 that I created, I think, at work , just using like Microsoft pay. 495 00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:40,761 Yeah, no, literally like I didn't use any program, it was 496 00:23:40,962 --> 00:23:43,105 something free, I just had a computer at work. 497 00:23:43,105 --> 00:23:48,440 So free. 498 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:49,142 Warren: I just had a computer at work. 499 00:23:49,142 --> 00:23:50,306 So yeah, cc created one and it's really cool. 500 00:23:50,306 --> 00:23:51,067 It'll be on this podcast. 501 00:23:51,067 --> 00:23:53,213 It'll be the episode, so y'all take a look at the thing. 502 00:23:53,253 --> 00:23:54,196 I think it's really cool. 503 00:23:54,196 --> 00:23:56,468 She did a good job on that and yeah, there's. 504 00:23:56,468 --> 00:23:57,250 There's just a lot. 505 00:23:57,250 --> 00:24:01,002 I think this year we're going to try and continue with the, 506 00:24:01,463 --> 00:24:02,826 the office rewatches. 507 00:24:02,826 --> 00:24:05,573 Like I said, the only reason the last episode it's been a 508 00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,145 month now that it hasn't been launched is just the technical 509 00:24:09,207 --> 00:24:12,752 difficulties we encountered and the time it's taking to get it 510 00:24:12,813 --> 00:24:13,394 straightened out. 511 00:24:13,394 --> 00:24:15,720 But we'll get it out and we'll start again. 512 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,682 It is the, like I said, the Diversity Day episode, so it's a 513 00:24:21,682 --> 00:24:22,567 great episode. 514 00:24:24,221 --> 00:24:25,728 Patrick: You'll do the safety training one. 515 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:30,003 Warren: That's another good hr related one yes, safety, and I 516 00:24:30,023 --> 00:24:34,132 just love any time toby he gets to do something. 517 00:24:34,132 --> 00:24:34,853 He gets really. 518 00:24:34,853 --> 00:24:36,342 You know I talk about I get excited. 519 00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:38,848 I start talking with when there's a time he actually gets 520 00:24:38,888 --> 00:24:40,060 to do some hr work. 521 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:43,728 He's like getting excited and and things like that and until 522 00:24:43,788 --> 00:24:45,411 at the end he comes very jaded. 523 00:24:45,411 --> 00:24:48,605 One of my favorite lines is when he's talking to Aaron. 524 00:24:48,605 --> 00:24:51,488 He goes HR's a joke, can't do anything. 525 00:24:51,488 --> 00:24:55,118 I forget the exact line, but yeah, hr's a joke and I was like 526 00:24:55,118 --> 00:24:57,067 aw, they ruined Toby. 527 00:24:57,067 --> 00:25:00,984 Then you're like, yeah, it's kind of true. 528 00:25:01,467 --> 00:25:02,229 Yeah, yeah. 529 00:25:02,229 --> 00:25:05,941 I could only imagine what a show like the Office would be 530 00:25:06,301 --> 00:25:11,922 today, with more technology and things like that, ai usage and 531 00:25:12,963 --> 00:25:17,911 the shenanigans that Jim could get into, or even a oh gosh, 532 00:25:18,231 --> 00:25:20,454 michael Carroll's character is just escaping me. 533 00:25:20,454 --> 00:25:23,930 You said Steve Carell's character. 534 00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:26,869 No, michael Carroll, the bald, tall guy. 535 00:25:26,869 --> 00:25:28,825 Very inappropriate. 536 00:25:29,126 --> 00:25:31,346 Patrick: Gosh, I'm just going to name office characters and you 537 00:25:31,386 --> 00:25:32,787 tell me he's not in the office. 538 00:25:33,984 --> 00:25:34,779 Warren: Oh, not in the office. 539 00:25:34,779 --> 00:25:37,125 He's the salesperson that comes in every once in a while. 540 00:25:37,125 --> 00:25:38,088 Oh, yeah, yeah. 541 00:25:38,249 --> 00:25:40,335 Patrick: Oh God, yeah, I don't know his, but anyways, he's 542 00:25:40,375 --> 00:25:44,348 highly, he's got the well-hung license plate, license plate. 543 00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:46,232 Warren: Yes, yeah, I can tell you all about him. 544 00:25:46,232 --> 00:25:47,586 I can't tell you his name. 545 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,843 Patrick: I did not know that actor's name. 546 00:25:48,843 --> 00:25:50,608 Oh, okay, he's everywhere. 547 00:25:50,608 --> 00:25:51,731 I think it's Michael Carroll. 548 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:54,307 Warren: Anyways, I'll edit all this out. 549 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,564 Patrick: Nah, leave it in. 550 00:25:56,564 --> 00:25:57,907 That's fun, that's fun. 551 00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:58,671 Warren: Let's see. 552 00:25:58,671 --> 00:26:03,290 But for the next year of Jaded HR, yeah, I think that that's 553 00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:04,815 one of the directions we're going to go. 554 00:26:04,815 --> 00:26:08,645 I think with the office episodes I do want to get more 555 00:26:08,705 --> 00:26:09,448 guests again. 556 00:26:09,448 --> 00:26:14,060 It's just, it's challenging to do and get people lined up. 557 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:16,626 I mean today's a perfect example we're going to try and 558 00:26:16,646 --> 00:26:17,750 have four. 559 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:21,103 Non, I mean you're a guest, but you're not a guest. 560 00:26:21,103 --> 00:26:23,625 You know, trying to get four people lined up and trying to do 561 00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:28,092 that, you know, to do the must-listen to HR episodes and 562 00:26:28,132 --> 00:26:30,736 my schedule just became crazy then. 563 00:26:30,736 --> 00:26:34,147 Getting guests is hard, especially when we only record 564 00:26:34,188 --> 00:26:36,868 at night and so many oh, I can record at 8 am. 565 00:26:36,868 --> 00:26:39,204 I'm like I'm not even fucking awake at 8 am. 566 00:26:39,204 --> 00:26:42,353 Much less able to record from my office. 567 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:48,429 You know a funny story my assistant I don't talk about the 568 00:26:48,429 --> 00:26:52,208 podcast at work, my, my assistant found out through Lisa 569 00:26:52,208 --> 00:26:53,089 who we used to work out. 570 00:26:53,089 --> 00:26:56,685 We ran into her at a conference and that's how she found out 571 00:26:56,726 --> 00:27:01,260 about the podcast and I'm like I hope she doesn't think badly of 572 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:03,023 me after listening to a few episodes. 573 00:27:03,023 --> 00:27:07,993 But also on St Patrick's Day, one of our other employees was 574 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,909 we had a cookout on St Patrick's Day and I think it was done by 575 00:27:11,989 --> 00:27:14,782 her department and she comes. 576 00:27:14,782 --> 00:27:16,066 Oh, I was listening to your last episode. 577 00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:19,821 I'm like whoa Ruh-roh, ruh-roh, but I've never said anything. 578 00:27:19,821 --> 00:27:21,545 I do love my job, and I'm not just saying that because people 579 00:27:21,585 --> 00:27:22,968 at my work listen now, but I love my job. 580 00:27:22,968 --> 00:27:25,172 I'm not and I'm not just saying that because people at my work 581 00:27:25,231 --> 00:27:27,096 listen now but I love my job. 582 00:27:27,096 --> 00:27:30,345 I'm very happy there and I don't have a lot of drama to 583 00:27:30,404 --> 00:27:31,910 deal with overall. 584 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:34,125 Patrick: So which doesn't give you a whole lot of ammo for the 585 00:27:34,145 --> 00:27:34,366 podcast. 586 00:27:34,386 --> 00:27:34,768 Warren: It doesn't. 587 00:27:34,768 --> 00:27:36,586 It doesn't give me as much ammo . 588 00:27:36,625 --> 00:27:37,249 Patrick: You got to tell things. 589 00:27:37,249 --> 00:27:38,305 Look, you guys like the show. 590 00:27:38,305 --> 00:27:39,861 You got to shake things up a little bit. 591 00:27:39,861 --> 00:27:42,143 I need ratings. 592 00:27:43,644 --> 00:27:45,305 Warren: Well, speaking of ratings, I need ratings and I 593 00:27:45,365 --> 00:27:46,165 need reviews. 594 00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:49,048 We haven't had a review in quite a while. 595 00:27:49,048 --> 00:27:52,250 So if you leave a review good, bad, indifferent I'll read it on 596 00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:53,111 air. 597 00:27:53,111 --> 00:27:54,652 Go on on your podcast player. 598 00:27:54,652 --> 00:27:55,393 I know mine. 599 00:27:55,393 --> 00:27:56,733 I use Pocket Cast. 600 00:27:56,733 --> 00:27:58,575 You can now rate on a scale. 601 00:27:58,575 --> 00:27:59,275 It's just stars. 602 00:27:59,275 --> 00:28:01,717 You can't put comments in there , but that helps people find us. 603 00:28:01,717 --> 00:28:04,724 Reviews, support us. 604 00:28:04,724 --> 00:28:07,998 There's all sorts of links to support us on, either through 605 00:28:08,038 --> 00:28:11,946 our podcast host, buzzsprout, or buy me a beer or patreon 606 00:28:11,967 --> 00:28:15,320 there's all sorts of ways and that really helps keep things 607 00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:19,951 going and takes a load off, you know, by renting the or getting 608 00:28:19,971 --> 00:28:22,462 a software license for a year and things like that. 609 00:28:22,462 --> 00:28:23,786 It's not, it's. 610 00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:24,386 You know. 611 00:28:24,386 --> 00:28:27,252 I'm still in the hole After five years. 612 00:28:27,252 --> 00:28:30,500 I don't even want to think how much in the hole I'm in. 613 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,772 For hosting and microphones, I'm about to buy a new 614 00:28:33,814 --> 00:28:36,165 microphone, as you saw earlier today we're having. 615 00:28:36,165 --> 00:28:40,381 As we're trying to get on, I might get a try and get a new 616 00:28:40,421 --> 00:28:41,321 microphone, I don't know. 617 00:28:41,403 --> 00:28:44,166 Patrick: But Mine's going on five years strong. 618 00:28:45,548 --> 00:28:46,089 Warren: No, you weren't. 619 00:28:46,089 --> 00:28:48,452 You weren't using that, or are you still using on your desk? 620 00:28:48,452 --> 00:28:49,734 I can't see that yeah. 621 00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:50,615 Patrick: It's the same. 622 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:52,359 That's the same one, okay. 623 00:28:52,381 --> 00:28:55,805 Warren: I still have that as a backup in my in my little closet 624 00:28:55,805 --> 00:29:00,921 that if I, if it breaks down the $25, we got $25 microphones 625 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,864 but now I've upgraded to the Samsung SM7U, which is the same 626 00:29:05,884 --> 00:29:09,747 microphone Michael Jackson used to record the Thriller album Wow 627 00:29:09,747 --> 00:29:12,929 , but it's famous with the podcasters now. 628 00:29:12,929 --> 00:29:17,872 But yeah, I might end up divorced if my wife found out 629 00:29:17,912 --> 00:29:21,834 exactly how much money I spend between hosting and editing 630 00:29:21,874 --> 00:29:24,836 software and all this other trivial stuff for it. 631 00:29:25,537 --> 00:29:27,238 Patrick: You don't do it for the money, it's for the passion. 632 00:29:29,381 --> 00:29:30,987 Warren: I do it for the passion. 633 00:29:30,987 --> 00:29:33,366 I was trying to think for the gram, but it's not quite the 634 00:29:33,407 --> 00:29:33,788 gram. 635 00:29:33,788 --> 00:29:36,907 Do it for the cast? 636 00:29:36,907 --> 00:29:38,905 Yeah, for the cast. 637 00:29:38,905 --> 00:29:43,981 There we go, but yeah, that's really all I can think of for 638 00:29:44,041 --> 00:29:44,423 right now. 639 00:29:44,423 --> 00:29:48,509 I'm really sorry that Feathers has apparently a volleyball game 640 00:29:48,509 --> 00:29:53,832 tonight and, like I said, cc6, so it's just not the best night. 641 00:29:53,832 --> 00:29:55,542 I wanted to get us all at some point. 642 00:29:55,542 --> 00:29:59,791 I'll get everybody on again and things like that, because it 643 00:29:59,811 --> 00:30:00,534 can be a lot of fun. 644 00:30:00,534 --> 00:30:05,048 I'm hoping to run into some of our former co the SHRM 645 00:30:05,087 --> 00:30:07,030 conference, uh, in a few weeks now. 646 00:30:07,030 --> 00:30:10,005 Uh, a few episodes ago I did mention I'll be there and I'll 647 00:30:10,026 --> 00:30:10,868 be handing out cards. 648 00:30:10,868 --> 00:30:12,547 I did not get the cards made. 649 00:30:12,547 --> 00:30:14,487 I'm not going to get them paid at this point. 650 00:30:14,487 --> 00:30:19,324 I've just, I've been really, really, truly up to my ears and 651 00:30:19,564 --> 00:30:27,261 everything in life work, family, the school a family, the school 652 00:30:27,261 --> 00:30:27,942 , a little bit of everything. 653 00:30:27,962 --> 00:30:29,586 So it's just been, it's been, but still come up to you and ask 654 00:30:29,586 --> 00:30:30,087 for ask for an autograph. 655 00:30:30,107 --> 00:30:31,309 Patrick: Yeah, you know, yeah, I will be doing some 656 00:30:31,351 --> 00:30:36,589 self-promotion, I'm sure, at the , without being obnoxious can 657 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:40,480 you post a lot of conferences, have like tag, like twitter tag, 658 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,603 yeah, like hashtags and stuff. 659 00:30:41,603 --> 00:30:43,548 I don't know what do they do that now or how they would even 660 00:30:43,568 --> 00:30:46,886 do that, but you can like get a sneak, a few things in like oh, 661 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:48,130 we're all HR. 662 00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:50,685 Did you listen to Jane in HR this last episode? 663 00:30:50,685 --> 00:30:51,588 Oh that's so great. 664 00:30:53,401 --> 00:30:57,726 Warren: Like I said, I've already started my annual 665 00:30:57,767 --> 00:30:59,974 conference of show notes. 666 00:30:59,974 --> 00:31:03,250 What I'm going to be talking about and I think it'll be 667 00:31:03,692 --> 00:31:06,444 probably the most jaded episode we've done in a very long time 668 00:31:06,881 --> 00:31:10,209 we were talking off there the first year or two. 669 00:31:10,209 --> 00:31:14,859 We were pretty jaded and then we've become less jaded and 670 00:31:14,921 --> 00:31:17,145 actually a couple of them have been pretty damn informative. 671 00:31:17,145 --> 00:31:19,551 Dare I say, oh no, yeah. 672 00:31:19,551 --> 00:31:22,826 So it's, it's crazy. 673 00:31:22,826 --> 00:31:25,425 Yeah, a lot of good stuff going on. 674 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:28,821 It's, it's crazy. 675 00:31:28,821 --> 00:31:29,503 Yeah, a lot of good stuff going on. 676 00:31:29,525 --> 00:31:30,809 Let's see, before we get too far along with our getting ready to 677 00:31:30,809 --> 00:31:32,316 sign off and all that, do want to thank our patreon supporters 678 00:31:32,356 --> 00:31:36,046 hallie, the original jaded hr rock star, michael and bill they 679 00:31:36,046 --> 00:31:37,630 they support us on patreon as well. 680 00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:38,571 You can too. 681 00:31:38,571 --> 00:31:41,946 And and I'm thinking about maybe doing a episode cc and I 682 00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:43,510 were talking about doing an episode Cece and I were talking 683 00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:47,162 about doing an episode where we invite our Patreon supporters on 684 00:31:47,162 --> 00:31:48,287 as guests. 685 00:31:48,287 --> 00:31:53,307 So, michael, bill, hallie, we're working on that. 686 00:31:53,307 --> 00:31:54,599 It's just a matter of timing. 687 00:31:54,599 --> 00:32:00,326 And making it convenient for us , convenient but able to be done 688 00:32:00,326 --> 00:32:00,326 . 689 00:32:00,326 --> 00:32:02,426 Yeah, convenience is out the window. 690 00:32:05,221 --> 00:32:06,426 Patrick: It's a fun idea, though I like that. 691 00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:09,665 Warren: Anything you have to you want to put out there about 692 00:32:09,806 --> 00:32:11,579 before we we sign off for today. 693 00:32:12,461 --> 00:32:13,121 Patrick: Don't look for you. 694 00:32:13,121 --> 00:32:13,881 Don't look for me. 695 00:32:13,881 --> 00:32:18,763 I'm not out there, I'm hiding, I'm a rogue, I'm in the shadows. 696 00:32:18,763 --> 00:32:20,703 I might be there, but you won't see me. 697 00:32:22,305 --> 00:32:24,425 Warren: Yeah, I, I, I'm going to be there. 698 00:32:24,425 --> 00:32:29,508 I'll be there with my assistant and if you see a middle-aged 699 00:32:29,548 --> 00:32:32,910 bald guy with a gray goatee or white at this point, it's 700 00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:34,490 Hampton Roads, richmond and DC area. 701 00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:38,092 That's the majority of our listeners. 702 00:32:38,092 --> 00:32:55,140 But New Jersey is very strong, ohio is very strong, illinois 703 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,425 very strong, and the funny thing is the Ohio area that's strong 704 00:32:57,506 --> 00:33:00,772 is not where CC lives or anything like that. 705 00:33:00,772 --> 00:33:05,250 I asked her where are these towns in relation to you? 706 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,559 And she's like, oh no, that's way out out out there. 707 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,826 So yeah, so yeah, please, you know, please continue to listen, 708 00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:16,780 because we're going to have that office episode soon, and 709 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,089 then I'm hoping Cece will be out from under the weather in a 710 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:23,224 couple of weeks and we will be back in two weeks with a new 711 00:33:23,265 --> 00:33:26,791 episode, and I think there'll be a lot of fun, as long as our 712 00:33:26,832 --> 00:33:28,094 plans don't go awry. 713 00:33:28,094 --> 00:33:30,488 So that's all I have for today. 714 00:33:30,488 --> 00:33:35,160 So, as always, I'm Warren, I'm Patrick, and we're here helping 715 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,300 you survive HR one what the fuck . 716 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:38,421 Moment at a time. 717 00:33:38,421 --> 00:33:51,023 Thank you.