1 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:04,546 Speaker 1: Had you actually read the email, you would know that 2 00:00:04,567 --> 00:00:07,812 the podcast you are about to listen to could contain explicit 3 00:00:07,812 --> 00:00:09,814 language and offensive content. 4 00:00:09,814 --> 00:00:14,474 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, 5 00:00:14,814 --> 00:00:16,480 present or future employers. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,687 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 7 00:00:19,687 --> 00:00:24,722 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write 8 00:00:24,762 --> 00:00:26,548 up my employee for crying too much? 9 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,864 Welcome to our little safe zone . 10 00:00:28,864 --> 00:00:31,170 Welcome to Jaded HR. 11 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,244 Speaker 2: Welcome to Jaded HR, the podcast by two HR 12 00:00:54,265 --> 00:00:55,628 professionals who want to help you get through to workday by 13 00:00:55,649 --> 00:00:58,378 saying everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 14 00:00:58,378 --> 00:01:02,027 I'm Warren, I'm Cece, right, so you're sounding so much better, 15 00:01:02,027 --> 00:01:02,731 yay. 16 00:01:04,322 --> 00:01:06,149 Speaker 3: I feel alive. 17 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:12,144 Look at me, I'm not nasally, I'm not hacking. 18 00:01:12,144 --> 00:01:13,129 This is great. 19 00:01:14,521 --> 00:01:15,623 Speaker 2: No, the last episode. 20 00:01:15,623 --> 00:01:19,031 There was only one call if I couldn't edit out in the last 21 00:01:19,132 --> 00:01:23,810 episode, so, but everything else was just fine overall. 22 00:01:23,829 --> 00:01:28,126 Speaker 3: You're welcome America, Feel my hacks. 23 00:01:29,621 --> 00:01:32,971 Speaker 2: I promised last Thursday the Office Episode 2 24 00:01:33,251 --> 00:01:33,391 thing. 25 00:01:33,391 --> 00:01:38,611 I programmed it to launch on May 24th, 2026. 26 00:01:38,611 --> 00:01:42,742 I don't know, I spat, fingered it and I'm like why and the 27 00:01:42,781 --> 00:01:44,067 thing is it made me notice it. 28 00:01:44,067 --> 00:01:50,405 It, and I'm like why and the thing is it made me notice it. 29 00:01:50,405 --> 00:01:52,230 Uh, april is going to be a very high month for downloads of the 30 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:54,679 podcast and I was like, oh, and then we're going to have and 31 00:01:54,698 --> 00:01:56,543 because we're going to have an extra episode this month, 32 00:01:56,885 --> 00:01:57,828 that'll just take us up. 33 00:01:57,828 --> 00:02:00,623 We might have a record for downloads for the month of april 34 00:02:00,623 --> 00:02:00,623 . 35 00:02:01,084 --> 00:02:03,268 But I look, why, why did it happen? 36 00:02:03,268 --> 00:02:04,549 We any downloads? 37 00:02:04,549 --> 00:02:07,161 And I look and I can see it there, and then I have to 38 00:02:07,201 --> 00:02:09,588 actually click on it to see that and it says zero downloads. 39 00:02:09,588 --> 00:02:10,681 I'm like I don't know. 40 00:02:10,681 --> 00:02:13,165 Yeah, 2026. 41 00:02:13,165 --> 00:02:15,129 So you won't have to wait that long. 42 00:02:15,129 --> 00:02:16,292 I've changed it. 43 00:02:16,292 --> 00:02:19,984 It is going to be a week from this after this episode and it 44 00:02:20,044 --> 00:02:20,784 will be airing. 45 00:02:20,784 --> 00:02:23,228 It's gone, it is set up with the correct date. 46 00:02:23,228 --> 00:02:24,008 Y'all will get that. 47 00:02:24,008 --> 00:02:27,794 And then, two weeks after that, we will have the office 48 00:02:28,114 --> 00:02:33,682 benefits or not, yeah, benefits episode, which is awesome, and I 49 00:02:33,682 --> 00:02:38,596 I think that's another episode that highlights the struggles of 50 00:02:38,596 --> 00:02:42,205 hr, because oh, benefit, hr is easy and I can do benefits and I 51 00:02:42,205 --> 00:02:45,632 could know you don't know what you're doing benefits and things 52 00:02:45,632 --> 00:02:46,032 like that. 53 00:02:48,223 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: As you all know, I've started a new role, so there's 54 00:02:51,241 --> 00:02:52,564 a lot going into that. 55 00:02:52,564 --> 00:02:56,942 Other than learning what you're actually doing, there's also 56 00:02:57,582 --> 00:03:02,271 getting your benefits set up and then rolling over your what is 57 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:02,372 it? 58 00:03:02,372 --> 00:03:03,373 The retirement plans. 59 00:03:03,373 --> 00:03:09,502 And I had just signed the family up for benefits and my, 60 00:03:09,581 --> 00:03:12,389 my husband, had some questions and he's like, oh, for some 61 00:03:12,429 --> 00:03:15,383 reason the dentist says that they're, we don't have that 62 00:03:15,462 --> 00:03:15,924 coverage. 63 00:03:15,924 --> 00:03:19,391 And I'm like, no, and I thought that I I panicked because I 64 00:03:19,451 --> 00:03:21,522 signed up for something wrong, yada, yada. 65 00:03:21,522 --> 00:03:26,913 And the benefits guy is like, no, that doctor's just probably 66 00:03:26,953 --> 00:03:27,593 out of network. 67 00:03:27,593 --> 00:03:33,169 And I'm like, oh, oh, my gosh, I felt like an idiot. 68 00:03:33,169 --> 00:03:36,240 I'm sure the benefits department is like why is this 69 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:37,542 person in our hr team? 70 00:03:37,542 --> 00:03:41,769 Well, you know apparently I don't understand benefits. 71 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:45,935 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, that's not your niche. 72 00:03:45,935 --> 00:03:51,227 I would forgive you if that were my team. 73 00:03:51,326 --> 00:03:54,431 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I felt stupid. 74 00:03:55,554 --> 00:03:57,246 Speaker 2: Yeah, and dental is one of those things. 75 00:03:57,246 --> 00:04:01,605 I personally feel someone who deals with benefits regularly 76 00:04:02,768 --> 00:04:06,715 there's not much difference between any of the dental plans, 77 00:04:06,715 --> 00:04:11,753 really between MetLife or Delta Dental or you just go down the 78 00:04:11,794 --> 00:04:17,024 list of all the top dental providers, they're so 79 00:04:17,124 --> 00:04:18,786 interchangeable. 80 00:04:18,786 --> 00:04:23,891 But the difference is the networks, and I think dentists 81 00:04:24,112 --> 00:04:27,822 move and change networks much more than doctors. 82 00:04:27,822 --> 00:04:32,197 I've had that experience myself where, oh, six months ago you 83 00:04:32,237 --> 00:04:35,826 took my insurance and nobody told me, and now I'm paying out 84 00:04:35,865 --> 00:04:41,362 of pocket for this or I'm paying the amount for out-of-network 85 00:04:41,401 --> 00:04:42,204 service for this. 86 00:04:42,204 --> 00:04:45,149 I'm like, okay, well, new dentist, next time you don't 87 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:47,194 need to schedule me another appointment in six months. 88 00:04:48,603 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: And that's a crappy thing because I have well, I 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,406 don't think I have it anymore. 90 00:04:51,406 --> 00:04:56,887 I used to have dental anxiety and it took a lot for me to 91 00:04:56,947 --> 00:04:57,990 trust a dentist. 92 00:04:57,990 --> 00:05:03,745 And now you find one, and it's just if they change and you're 93 00:05:03,805 --> 00:05:04,889 no longer covered by them. 94 00:05:04,889 --> 00:05:07,442 It's kind of heartbreaking when you get close to them. 95 00:05:07,442 --> 00:05:13,278 I I did get over my anxiety, though now I am obsessed with my 96 00:05:13,278 --> 00:05:18,045 12 years of a no cavity and I am like let's go. 97 00:05:18,045 --> 00:05:23,091 We're going on year 13, 13 years no cavities, let's go. 98 00:05:23,571 --> 00:05:27,216 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way as you when it comes to 99 00:05:27,255 --> 00:05:28,302 dentists and I had. 100 00:05:28,302 --> 00:05:29,865 I went to this one. 101 00:05:29,865 --> 00:05:36,146 Well, backing it way up, don and I went to this dentist and 102 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:40,785 he retired and we were like, okay, he wasn't as convenient 103 00:05:41,105 --> 00:05:43,951 because we'd moved and everything, but we'll travel 104 00:05:44,031 --> 00:05:45,173 because we knew him. 105 00:05:45,173 --> 00:05:46,141 But he retired. 106 00:05:46,141 --> 00:05:50,531 So we went to this mega chain dentist it's not mega chain, but 107 00:05:50,531 --> 00:05:53,483 for this area they've got like 10 offices and things like that 108 00:05:54,105 --> 00:05:57,100 First dentist I had, she was awesome, she was great, loved 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,363 her to death and they transferred her to one of their 110 00:05:59,444 --> 00:06:02,870 other locations that I was not going to travel that far for her 111 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:02,870 . 112 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:10,531 And so then I got this dentist and picture, you know, a 113 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:15,064 five-foot-tall Joe Rogan type person with definite Napoleon 114 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:17,091 complex, short dude thing. 115 00:06:17,091 --> 00:06:20,740 So that's who they scheduled me with and I didn't care and for 116 00:06:20,901 --> 00:06:27,627 a long time I had a very bad tooth and my previous dentist 117 00:06:27,648 --> 00:06:29,872 had told me hey, this tooth is bad. 118 00:06:29,872 --> 00:06:32,367 One day it will abscess. 119 00:06:32,367 --> 00:06:34,908 Will it be to tomorrow, will it be next year, will it be 10 120 00:06:34,949 --> 00:06:35,108 years? 121 00:06:35,108 --> 00:06:37,622 We don't know, but it'll abscess and you're going to be 122 00:06:37,742 --> 00:06:39,930 in a situation so you need to get it taken care of. 123 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:42,906 But even my dentist said I prefer you to have the natural 124 00:06:42,946 --> 00:06:45,673 tooth in as long as there's no infection and all this. 125 00:06:45,673 --> 00:06:49,749 And so, as we did that and the doctor at that practice I really 126 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:51,452 liked she said the same thing. 127 00:06:51,452 --> 00:06:53,684 She said you know, I'd prefer if you got it pulled sooner than 128 00:06:53,684 --> 00:06:58,293 later, but it is better to have your natural tooth in there. 129 00:06:58,293 --> 00:07:04,713 And this little Joe Rogan guy, he got like severe attitude with 130 00:07:04,713 --> 00:07:04,833 me. 131 00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:06,831 I really wanted to just punch him in the face. 132 00:07:06,831 --> 00:07:10,247 I I forget exactly what he said , but he pissed me off so I left 133 00:07:10,247 --> 00:07:10,247 . 134 00:07:10,247 --> 00:07:12,295 I, you know, I didn't even stay . 135 00:07:12,295 --> 00:07:15,425 You know, after he was done the hygienic, I was gone before the 136 00:07:15,425 --> 00:07:16,528 hygienist came back. 137 00:07:16,528 --> 00:07:19,601 I was like, screw you, um, you know the eric cartman, screw you 138 00:07:19,601 --> 00:07:22,127 guys, I'm god and and I was gone. 139 00:07:22,127 --> 00:07:24,430 So I left, I didn't go back. 140 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:27,440 I went somewhere else and I found this dentist. 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,149 I really like Now, this guy, he was a stoner, extraordinaire 142 00:07:31,511 --> 00:07:34,805 dentist and he was like he reminded me of Tommy Chong so 143 00:07:34,845 --> 00:07:39,701 much and he played in a band at night and all this other stuff, 144 00:07:39,742 --> 00:07:40,764 but he was just so cool. 145 00:07:40,783 --> 00:07:42,028 Yeah, dude, I agree. 146 00:07:42,028 --> 00:07:46,500 And he's like old, he's in his 60s at this time, but he's, yeah 147 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:48,605 , dude, I really agree, I just have this. 148 00:07:48,605 --> 00:07:51,812 You know you're going to want to get it taken care of, but 149 00:07:51,899 --> 00:07:55,187 let's, you don't have to have it pulled immediately, but, like I 150 00:07:55,187 --> 00:07:59,043 said, it he's as an abscess is all just, whether it's weeks, 151 00:07:59,142 --> 00:07:59,803 months away. 152 00:07:59,803 --> 00:08:03,781 Anyways, I had him forever and he was really cool and I had the 153 00:08:03,781 --> 00:08:05,286 most coveted slot. 154 00:08:05,286 --> 00:08:08,644 On Monday nights he had a 6 pm slot and he always would say 155 00:08:08,684 --> 00:08:11,228 dude, if you ever go missing, I'm going to know it's one of my 156 00:08:11,228 --> 00:08:14,353 other patients, because everybody wants the 6 pm slot 157 00:08:14,452 --> 00:08:15,514 and you've got it. 158 00:08:15,514 --> 00:08:17,062 You know he's just. 159 00:08:18,745 --> 00:08:22,892 He was really a cool guy and he was funny and he didn't care 160 00:08:22,952 --> 00:08:23,915 about anything. 161 00:08:23,915 --> 00:08:25,350 He was probably stoned while doing my teeth and stuff, but he 162 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:25,774 was funny and he didn't care about anything. 163 00:08:25,774 --> 00:08:28,214 He was probably stoned while doing my teeth and stuff, but he 164 00:08:28,214 --> 00:08:29,857 was good dentist and I really liked him. 165 00:08:29,857 --> 00:08:33,225 Well, he retired and the person that took over his practice I 166 00:08:33,264 --> 00:08:33,966 didn't know he retired. 167 00:08:33,966 --> 00:08:36,523 I showed up and they didn't take my that's a didn't take my 168 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:39,990 insurance type thing and so I went to this other place and 169 00:08:40,030 --> 00:08:42,783 I've been there, I've been happy , but Dawn loves it. 170 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:45,969 All three of the dentists are like super hotties, she says, 171 00:08:46,129 --> 00:08:48,934 and she's like I need to go get my teeth cleaned again. 172 00:08:48,934 --> 00:08:53,386 I think I have a bad tooth that needs looked at. 173 00:08:53,386 --> 00:08:57,539 It's like they're yeah, everybody there is like Dawn. 174 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,388 Speaker 3: Why are you going to the dentist every other week? 175 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:01,124 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so. 176 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:04,594 Anyways, benefits World, it's so much fun, it's so much fun, 177 00:09:04,634 --> 00:09:05,336 it's so much fun. 178 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:08,785 I think the the benefits episode will be a lot of fun. 179 00:09:08,785 --> 00:09:13,597 Good there, so yeah, oh, and also I was talking about how 180 00:09:13,638 --> 00:09:16,182 well the ratings were last month . 181 00:09:16,182 --> 00:09:21,208 Y'all, I have y'all really liked our last episode with the 182 00:09:21,229 --> 00:09:22,669 something about sherm. 183 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:29,145 Just touched a nerve yeah, like, and I went back episodes like 184 00:09:29,527 --> 00:09:32,296 when we had baked hr on and that it was. 185 00:09:32,296 --> 00:09:34,321 It was supposed to be a shorty sitting on sherm. 186 00:09:34,321 --> 00:09:37,249 We were supposed to just like, do a 15, 20 minute episode. 187 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:40,844 That's all we planned for and it we I think we edited it down 188 00:09:40,923 --> 00:09:43,187 to an hour over an hour, something like that. 189 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:47,102 But that one, when we hit a nerve, when we talk about SHRM, 190 00:09:47,182 --> 00:09:50,655 removing the E from the DEI or whatever I forget the name of 191 00:09:50,676 --> 00:09:52,081 that that episode did well. 192 00:09:52,081 --> 00:09:55,587 So when we talk about SHRM, y'all respond. 193 00:09:55,587 --> 00:10:00,162 So I'm going to have to come up with more dirt or something on 194 00:10:00,241 --> 00:10:03,947 SHRM or something along those lines to keep y'all coming back 195 00:10:04,047 --> 00:10:05,850 and things on SHRM or something along those lines to keep you 196 00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:06,389 all coming back and things. 197 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:09,433 Those episodes I was telling Cece when Kevin was on that 198 00:10:09,494 --> 00:10:13,302 episode actually and it wasn't a jaded episode was the number 199 00:10:13,423 --> 00:10:16,831 one download for that year, the highest most downloads for that 200 00:10:16,871 --> 00:10:21,989 year, and the SHRM episode, at least in the first seven days, 201 00:10:22,250 --> 00:10:23,533 is outperforming that one. 202 00:10:23,533 --> 00:10:25,626 So I'm going to go gloat after. 203 00:10:25,647 --> 00:10:26,874 Speaker 3: this podcast, at least in the first seven days, 204 00:10:27,033 --> 00:10:28,100 is outperforming that one. 205 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,381 Speaker 2: I'm going to go gloat . 206 00:10:29,381 --> 00:10:31,326 After this podcast, we have a competition. 207 00:10:31,326 --> 00:10:33,552 He's welcome to come back and try and regain the throne, I 208 00:10:33,591 --> 00:10:33,792 guess. 209 00:10:36,465 --> 00:10:36,625 Speaker 3: It's on. 210 00:10:36,625 --> 00:10:38,731 I have a SHRM confession to make. 211 00:10:38,731 --> 00:10:50,067 Uh-oh, I didn't know this, but I let my SHRM certification 212 00:10:50,087 --> 00:10:50,610 lapse when I was pregnant. 213 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:55,606 I wasn't in an HR state of mind and I went on about a month ago 214 00:10:55,606 --> 00:10:58,732 and I realized that my certification has lapsed. 215 00:10:58,732 --> 00:11:05,951 Now to recertify, you have to do the credits to say, hey, I'm 216 00:11:06,010 --> 00:11:07,533 still learning, I'm still smart. 217 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:10,647 Well, since I didn't do that, the only way to get recertified 218 00:11:10,767 --> 00:11:12,633 is to take the damn test. 219 00:11:12,633 --> 00:11:17,566 So now there's the jaded part of me that's like fuck that, I'm 220 00:11:17,566 --> 00:11:19,990 not doing that again, whatever. 221 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:23,605 And then there's the over achiever side of me that just 222 00:11:23,746 --> 00:11:25,211 really wants a certification. 223 00:11:25,211 --> 00:11:28,519 It's like the devil and the angel on my shoulder. 224 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:32,471 And now I'm devastated that I lost the letters. 225 00:11:33,299 --> 00:11:34,764 Speaker 2: What does your new job have to? 226 00:11:34,764 --> 00:11:38,355 Is it something they encourage, they want they? 227 00:11:38,355 --> 00:11:39,600 What is their opinion? 228 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:42,004 Speaker 3: I don't know, actually I have to do some 229 00:11:42,065 --> 00:11:42,466 digging. 230 00:11:42,466 --> 00:11:44,186 That's a good question. 231 00:11:44,186 --> 00:11:45,644 Yeah, we'll see. 232 00:11:46,059 --> 00:11:47,245 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will not take that test again. 233 00:11:47,245 --> 00:11:48,389 I'm so ashamed I let it lapse. 234 00:11:49,961 --> 00:11:51,004 Speaker 3: Do you see that behind me? 235 00:11:51,004 --> 00:11:53,465 You see that that's a lie. 236 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,048 Speaker 2: So there's no other option other than you're so far 237 00:11:59,149 --> 00:12:00,711 out that you can't take the exam . 238 00:12:00,711 --> 00:12:01,813 You have to take the exam. 239 00:12:03,682 --> 00:12:05,288 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a year. 240 00:12:06,019 --> 00:12:06,601 Speaker 2: My assistant. 241 00:12:06,601 --> 00:12:09,471 She got her SHRM CP back in February. 242 00:12:09,471 --> 00:12:11,486 I'm really proud of her for doing that. 243 00:12:11,486 --> 00:12:15,389 But we would do the SHRM study, the quiz questions and things 244 00:12:15,431 --> 00:12:19,971 like that and I would say just for fun hey, let's check out 245 00:12:19,991 --> 00:12:23,845 what the SHRM SCP questions, quiz questions are and things 246 00:12:23,865 --> 00:12:25,280 like that, what the Serm SCP questions, quiz questions are 247 00:12:25,301 --> 00:12:25,701 and things like that. 248 00:12:25,701 --> 00:12:30,125 I thought the SCP questions were easier than the CP 249 00:12:30,186 --> 00:12:30,687 questions. 250 00:12:30,687 --> 00:12:34,570 When we were doing that, I was like I'm like I'm batting less 251 00:12:34,590 --> 00:12:37,472 than 500 and you know, doing the quizzes together. 252 00:12:37,472 --> 00:12:42,879 I studied with her and I had fun doing that honestly and I 253 00:12:42,899 --> 00:12:43,240 was learning too. 254 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,731 But when it came down to quiz, I was, I was, I was at less than 255 00:12:47,731 --> 00:12:51,267 500 and getting them right and the questions right. 256 00:12:51,267 --> 00:12:55,601 And then we let's, let's try the scp ones for this unit and 257 00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:56,904 we were getting. 258 00:12:56,904 --> 00:12:59,951 She was getting them right too and it's not like it's something 259 00:12:59,951 --> 00:13:02,485 because I have so much experience or anything like that 260 00:13:02,485 --> 00:13:02,485 . 261 00:13:02,485 --> 00:13:05,932 I was was like is the SCP easier than the CP? 262 00:13:05,932 --> 00:13:07,580 I don't know. 263 00:13:07,780 --> 00:13:13,388 Speaker 3: So no, I didn't take the CP, I took the SHRM. 264 00:13:13,388 --> 00:13:14,410 What is it? 265 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:15,945 I'm sorry, the HCR the. 266 00:13:15,965 --> 00:13:16,426 Speaker 1: SPHR yeah. 267 00:13:18,561 --> 00:13:22,605 Speaker 3: So I took the PHR, not the SPHR, and I remember I 268 00:13:22,784 --> 00:13:24,490 failed that exam once. 269 00:13:24,490 --> 00:13:31,302 I cried in the bathroom. 270 00:13:31,302 --> 00:13:32,823 I took it again, I passed it and it was a lot of 271 00:13:32,844 --> 00:13:38,974 regurgitation of terms, of definitions, of like kind of 272 00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:40,741 things that you know but you don't know. 273 00:13:40,741 --> 00:13:45,110 Know Like contextuallyually you don't have everything memorized 274 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:46,494 verbatim or stuff like that. 275 00:13:46,494 --> 00:13:54,047 But then when I took that SCP, it seemed that it was more more 276 00:13:54,147 --> 00:13:56,264 rational thinking, more logical thinking. 277 00:13:56,264 --> 00:14:00,195 Here's a scenario how would you deal in this scenario? 278 00:14:00,195 --> 00:14:02,061 And it's like, well, that's fucking easy. 279 00:14:02,061 --> 00:14:02,802 Like not easy. 280 00:14:02,802 --> 00:14:06,346 I shouldn't say it's easy, but it's easier, as someone who's 281 00:14:06,365 --> 00:14:11,893 been working in the HR field, to be like okay, my experience 282 00:14:11,952 --> 00:14:14,535 tells me that you know da-da-da-da. 283 00:14:14,535 --> 00:14:30,464 And I felt that that's what made the SCP easier was that it 284 00:14:30,484 --> 00:14:31,145 was more scenario-based as it was. 285 00:14:31,166 --> 00:14:32,208 Speaker 2: Tell me exactly what the the something, something act 286 00:14:32,208 --> 00:14:34,054 of 1971 did and I don't, fucking, I don't know, like you 287 00:14:34,075 --> 00:14:35,198 know, I can google, that you know, if I ever need to know, I 288 00:14:35,219 --> 00:14:39,365 will google that have you met chat gpt knows everything. 289 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:43,510 Yeah, I hear yeah, I well, my, I took. 290 00:14:43,510 --> 00:14:46,556 Well, I got the PHR in 2003. 291 00:14:46,556 --> 00:14:50,649 And then, rather than recertifying, I got my SPHR in 292 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:51,633 2006. 293 00:14:51,633 --> 00:14:53,706 And I kept that going. 294 00:14:53,706 --> 00:14:57,629 And then, after the, I call it the divorce between HRCI and 295 00:14:57,649 --> 00:14:57,970 SHRM. 296 00:14:57,970 --> 00:15:01,288 Yeah, because it got ugly there for a little while. 297 00:15:01,288 --> 00:15:05,125 But SHRM did the smartest thing in the world hey, watch this 10 298 00:15:05,125 --> 00:15:09,447 minute powerpoint and we'll convert your sphr to a sherm scp 299 00:15:09,447 --> 00:15:09,447 . 300 00:15:09,447 --> 00:15:11,712 So I'm like I'm on it, I did it . 301 00:15:11,753 --> 00:15:15,888 Well, my, my employer at that time didn't appreciate, or 302 00:15:15,927 --> 00:15:19,143 didn't you know they weren't supporting and getting credits. 303 00:15:19,143 --> 00:15:22,250 There weren't, as there there are hardly any free credits, it 304 00:15:22,289 --> 00:15:23,253 seemed like out there. 305 00:15:23,253 --> 00:15:26,381 So I was on my own and so after a while I let it lapse. 306 00:15:26,381 --> 00:15:29,668 And then, when I got my current job, my boss told me out next, 307 00:15:30,029 --> 00:15:34,144 next cycle, I want you to take your, get your certification 308 00:15:34,164 --> 00:15:34,365 again. 309 00:15:34,365 --> 00:15:38,072 I'm like, okay, so I did and I got it the the sherm scp. 310 00:15:38,072 --> 00:15:42,106 But yeah, it was, it was really interesting. 311 00:15:42,106 --> 00:15:45,552 And but to think that and I think I never thought of it then 312 00:15:45,552 --> 00:15:50,368 , but until you said it, yeah, I think that in my mind the CP 313 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:53,153 was harder because it's just regurgitation of some. 314 00:15:53,153 --> 00:15:57,149 What is the Mavis-Bacon Act or whatever? 315 00:15:57,149 --> 00:15:59,674 I can't even do it. 316 00:15:59,674 --> 00:16:01,440 What is this and what is that? 317 00:16:01,601 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: Mavis-Bacon taught me typing. 318 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,684 Speaker 2: That's it, that's the typing. 319 00:16:04,684 --> 00:16:09,285 But see, you don't even know, but when you can apply what 320 00:16:09,365 --> 00:16:10,288 knowledge you do have. 321 00:16:10,288 --> 00:16:12,173 It seemed easier. 322 00:16:12,173 --> 00:16:16,347 So maybe if you have even a mild amount of experience, that 323 00:16:16,388 --> 00:16:18,292 the SCP might be easier. 324 00:16:18,292 --> 00:16:19,573 But who knows? 325 00:16:20,020 --> 00:16:23,447 Speaker 3: I will say I was in, so my previous company. 326 00:16:23,447 --> 00:16:28,945 They were very much into the certifications, so this is a few 327 00:16:28,945 --> 00:16:29,407 years ago. 328 00:16:29,407 --> 00:16:32,606 They had paid not only for me to get my certification but they 329 00:16:32,606 --> 00:16:36,461 had also paid for me to attend these prep courses and this is 330 00:16:36,542 --> 00:16:39,350 graduate level once a week, three hours a week. 331 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:41,749 They took it seriously and it was very helpful. 332 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:45,741 And I'm laughing because I'm in the class and we're reviewing 333 00:16:46,023 --> 00:16:50,115 court cases that have happened and there was one for quid pro 334 00:16:50,155 --> 00:16:55,347 quo sexual harassment and it was it happened in my hometown of 335 00:16:55,368 --> 00:16:58,860 boca raton, florida, so it was like it was the person's last 336 00:16:58,899 --> 00:17:03,068 name, like flanderson versus boca raton, and I like excuse me 337 00:17:03,068 --> 00:17:06,923 , this is hometown Florida pride , right here, of course, there's 338 00:17:06,923 --> 00:17:11,652 a famous court case involving sexual harassment. 339 00:17:11,652 --> 00:17:14,544 That is Florida proud. 340 00:17:14,544 --> 00:17:16,950 But it just made me laugh because it was just such a 341 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:18,212 random place. 342 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,404 Speaker 2: Yeah, going back eons and eons in the 90s. 343 00:17:23,404 --> 00:17:27,568 I remember specifically being in college in an HR class and us 344 00:17:27,568 --> 00:17:33,075 discussing that you could not have same-sex sexual harassment 345 00:17:33,174 --> 00:17:36,842 because that wasn't considered a thing and you couldn't have 346 00:17:37,363 --> 00:17:40,769 subordinate on supervisor harassment because the manager 347 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:41,592 should be the manager. 348 00:17:41,592 --> 00:17:47,864 Imagine that and knock that one out, deal with the problem. 349 00:17:47,864 --> 00:17:51,886 And I just remember very specifically, I think the same 350 00:17:51,946 --> 00:17:54,568 sex harassment something's telling me it was an American 351 00:17:54,628 --> 00:18:01,634 Airlines case, but back then that does evolve and change. 352 00:18:01,634 --> 00:18:05,217 I mean we're talking 30 plus years but HR does evolve and 353 00:18:05,557 --> 00:18:08,105 change and nothing's changed more than it has the last 354 00:18:08,707 --> 00:18:10,952 hundred and some odd days in HR, it seems. 355 00:18:10,952 --> 00:18:14,470 But I won't go too deep into that. 356 00:18:17,721 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: Oh, it's ever-changing landscapes apes. 357 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:31,461 Speaker 2: Well, my topic for today was I wanted to do a 358 00:18:31,481 --> 00:18:32,945 continuation on my experience at the virginia sherm conference, 359 00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:35,171 because y'all seem to like us talking and shitting on sherm 360 00:18:35,411 --> 00:18:36,320 and and things like that. 361 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,776 Well, this time I'm going to be talking about the conference, 362 00:18:39,816 --> 00:18:42,442 but I'm going to be talking about the attendees, and maybe 363 00:18:42,461 --> 00:18:44,325 there's some of you out here that I'm going to be talking 364 00:18:44,345 --> 00:18:50,573 about and, yeah, some of you attendees are really got the. 365 00:18:50,573 --> 00:18:55,605 It seems like people have lost all etiquette and decorum and 366 00:18:55,865 --> 00:18:56,446 things like that. 367 00:18:56,446 --> 00:19:00,840 So I want to think of this as about being a good conference 368 00:19:00,901 --> 00:19:01,502 attendee. 369 00:19:02,565 --> 00:19:06,073 Speaker 3: I feel like this needs intro music and a theme 370 00:19:06,113 --> 00:19:06,333 song. 371 00:19:09,701 --> 00:19:12,586 Speaker 2: Be a good attendee, like an instructional video from 372 00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:13,188 the 90s. 373 00:19:13,188 --> 00:19:17,201 Well, and I actually wrote down notes. 374 00:19:17,201 --> 00:19:20,433 I've been doing more notes lately than I've been doing in a 375 00:19:20,433 --> 00:19:24,025 long time, but my number one bullet is shut the fuck up. 376 00:19:24,025 --> 00:19:29,586 So that's my number one bullet for being a good attendee, and 377 00:19:29,707 --> 00:19:30,588 I've got some bullets. 378 00:19:31,672 --> 00:19:32,273 Speaker 3: Shut your mouth. 379 00:19:33,296 --> 00:19:35,121 Speaker 2: Don't ask stupid questions. 380 00:19:35,121 --> 00:19:40,694 If your question pertains only to you, don't ask it in front of 381 00:19:40,694 --> 00:19:41,277 everybody. 382 00:19:41,277 --> 00:19:45,339 Take it offline and if you have a question you know, keep it at 383 00:19:45,339 --> 00:19:47,787 the 10 000 foot level big picture so everybody can learn 384 00:19:47,826 --> 00:19:47,926 from. 385 00:19:47,926 --> 00:19:52,766 Well, I have jane doe and she does this and I and get really 386 00:19:52,865 --> 00:19:54,429 in the weeds with their situation. 387 00:19:54,429 --> 00:19:55,230 I don't. 388 00:19:55,230 --> 00:19:56,413 Nobody else wants to hear that. 389 00:19:56,413 --> 00:19:59,005 Oh, here's another thing. 390 00:19:59,005 --> 00:20:04,435 No, don't interrupt and make asinine comments that add no 391 00:20:04,516 --> 00:20:06,319 value to anybody else in the room. 392 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:09,587 Going along the same line, there was this one lady in one 393 00:20:09,607 --> 00:20:13,483 of the breakout sessions I was in and she would just no 394 00:20:13,544 --> 00:20:14,365 question involved. 395 00:20:14,365 --> 00:20:17,181 Say, well, my company does da-da-da-da-da, like she's 396 00:20:17,221 --> 00:20:19,366 looking for some sort of affirmation. 397 00:20:19,366 --> 00:20:21,451 Oh yes, good girl, pat you on the head. 398 00:20:21,451 --> 00:20:26,608 Your company is doing excellent , no question, it's just a 399 00:20:26,648 --> 00:20:27,691 comment, my company does this. 400 00:20:27,691 --> 00:20:28,573 Good for you. 401 00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:36,102 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to hear that SHRM does not give gold 402 00:20:36,122 --> 00:20:36,221 stars. 403 00:20:36,221 --> 00:20:38,509 Everything at SHRM costs money. 404 00:20:38,509 --> 00:20:41,368 They're not going to give you a gold star for doing your job. 405 00:20:41,579 --> 00:20:44,046 Speaker 2: But they give you the badge bling that says like I 406 00:20:44,067 --> 00:20:48,185 got the HR dude badge bling and I did not get that. 407 00:20:48,185 --> 00:20:49,068 I love HR. 408 00:20:49,068 --> 00:20:52,107 And the lady, the lady, when I'm up there getting the HR dude 409 00:20:52,107 --> 00:20:54,962 and the Sherm SCP little ribbons that you put on your 410 00:20:55,262 --> 00:20:57,747 your name tag and things like that, she goes you want that. 411 00:20:57,747 --> 00:20:58,327 I love HR. 412 00:20:58,327 --> 00:20:58,868 I said oh no. 413 00:20:58,868 --> 00:20:59,971 I said oh no. 414 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:09,377 Speaker 3: Can I just tell you I'm a sucker for that kind of 415 00:21:09,458 --> 00:21:10,781 nonsense like the bling. 416 00:21:10,781 --> 00:21:17,544 I went to SHRM and I went crazy over those stupid ribbons. 417 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:23,262 I was first time attendee, shrm , scp talent. 418 00:21:23,262 --> 00:21:26,398 Well, I think I had like seven ribbons on there just like 419 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:26,839 layered. 420 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:31,458 Don't threaten me with a good time for Medals of Valor over 421 00:21:31,479 --> 00:21:31,659 there. 422 00:21:31,659 --> 00:21:32,259 I'm down. 423 00:21:32,259 --> 00:21:35,055 Yeah, hr Valor. 424 00:21:37,276 --> 00:21:37,857 Speaker 2: It was funny. 425 00:21:37,857 --> 00:21:39,234 Those were funny ways. 426 00:21:39,234 --> 00:21:41,017 Like I said, I didn't have an awful time. 427 00:21:41,017 --> 00:21:43,057 It could have been better, but I didn't have an awful time. 428 00:21:43,057 --> 00:21:48,382 But under STFU, bullet number three, nobody wants to hear your 429 00:21:48,382 --> 00:21:51,837 uh-huhs, that's right, and all your loud comments to yourself 430 00:21:51,878 --> 00:21:55,236 throughout the I had someone behind me was just doing that 431 00:21:55,336 --> 00:22:00,353 the entire breakout session and I'm like okay, this is getting 432 00:22:00,792 --> 00:22:05,522 too, too bad and not a showing of the rocky horror picture show 433 00:22:05,522 --> 00:22:08,116 you do not have to interact do we have a first? 434 00:22:08,156 --> 00:22:11,529 anybody here, it's their first time do they even show the rocky 435 00:22:11,529 --> 00:22:12,191 horror. 436 00:22:12,191 --> 00:22:14,676 The place what used to show here doesn't anymore. 437 00:22:14,938 --> 00:22:17,650 Speaker 3: I do it's been a while since I've been to one 438 00:22:18,692 --> 00:22:22,577 yeah, the gen, the gen zers are not going to know. 439 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,664 Speaker 2: All that is the rocky horror picture show. 440 00:22:26,664 --> 00:22:27,290 It's it's. 441 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:32,102 It's a suck-ass movie, but it's the experience, it's an 442 00:22:32,142 --> 00:22:32,782 experience. 443 00:22:32,782 --> 00:22:35,051 It's an experience. 444 00:22:35,051 --> 00:22:37,038 It's not suck-ass, but it's not a great movie. 445 00:22:37,038 --> 00:22:39,096 It's great in my heart. 446 00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:43,090 And you can't watch it because if you watch it on TV, I know 447 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:44,316 I'm going down another rabbit hole. 448 00:22:44,316 --> 00:22:47,755 You just don't get the same thing out of it as being there 449 00:22:47,976 --> 00:22:50,770 in the theater and things like that. 450 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:56,682 So anyways, agreed, bullet four under STFU, take your sidebars 451 00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:57,462 outside. 452 00:22:57,763 --> 00:23:00,897 Let me tell you I had it was a breakout session. 453 00:23:00,897 --> 00:23:04,397 It was in the main rooms and there was maybe 60 people in the 454 00:23:04,397 --> 00:23:07,992 room and the room held hundreds of people and the people the 455 00:23:08,192 --> 00:23:12,688 lady behind me is just like talking and talking, talking to 456 00:23:12,728 --> 00:23:16,155 person beside her and and I actually had interest in the 457 00:23:16,175 --> 00:23:17,960 topic and wanted to listen. 458 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,732 So I said I turned around and said excuse me, like two or 459 00:23:20,752 --> 00:23:24,040 three times and then I just got up and I moved like five seats 460 00:23:24,301 --> 00:23:27,938 over to get away from directly behind them and they kept going. 461 00:23:27,938 --> 00:23:31,053 I couldn't hear the speaker and I just finally I said it in a 462 00:23:31,874 --> 00:23:34,298 not loud, not soft voice say excuse me. 463 00:23:34,298 --> 00:23:36,522 I moved because I couldn't hear because of you. 464 00:23:36,522 --> 00:23:39,618 Can you please, can you please be quiet so we could hear? 465 00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:43,570 And but yeah, I that I found that just extremely rude. 466 00:23:44,712 --> 00:23:50,762 And then my final stfu bullet was if you ask, can you get a 467 00:23:50,823 --> 00:23:54,809 copy of the slides, just get up, go, you know, play in traffic 468 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:55,270 somewhere. 469 00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:59,259 I, that is one of my can we get a copy of the slides? 470 00:23:59,259 --> 00:24:03,053 And they've even told you, hey, this most of the presenters 471 00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:05,660 slides are going to be available through the app, the, the 472 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:09,311 seminar app or whatever it was a conference app and things like 473 00:24:09,332 --> 00:24:09,653 like that. 474 00:24:09,653 --> 00:24:10,894 Can we get a copy of the slides ? 475 00:24:10,894 --> 00:24:13,395 That just kills me. 476 00:24:13,395 --> 00:24:16,939 That was bullet point number one. 477 00:24:20,142 --> 00:24:24,464 Bullet point number two oh, I had a little bit of time. 478 00:24:24,464 --> 00:24:26,507 It didn't take me that long, but I had a little time on my 479 00:24:26,547 --> 00:24:26,686 hand. 480 00:24:26,686 --> 00:24:28,593 I was motivated. 481 00:24:28,593 --> 00:24:30,638 Technology is my next bullet. 482 00:24:30,638 --> 00:24:36,113 Oh, yeah, a silence. 483 00:24:36,113 --> 00:24:36,554 Your phone people. 484 00:24:36,554 --> 00:24:39,220 You know you, you might be the most important person in your 485 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:42,977 entire company I'm sure you are because you're an hr pro and 486 00:24:43,017 --> 00:24:43,238 things. 487 00:24:43,238 --> 00:24:45,585 But you know, put it on quiet. 488 00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:47,431 Everybody has a phone, a smart watch. 489 00:24:47,431 --> 00:24:51,980 I nowadays, I don't ever have the volume on my phone on 490 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,353 because I'll get a buzz on my watch and I look at it. 491 00:24:54,353 --> 00:24:58,911 Okay, I'll accept, decline whatever, get rid of it, but you 492 00:24:58,911 --> 00:25:01,156 don't need a loud ringer. 493 00:25:01,156 --> 00:25:03,522 And if it does for you, oh, go ahead. 494 00:25:04,491 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's funny that you say that, because 495 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,294 there was a time when I was a teenager where we used to pay 496 00:25:09,413 --> 00:25:13,813 like $2 for a ringtone so that we could be like the person to 497 00:25:13,853 --> 00:25:18,080 have Blink-182 playing in a polyphonic melody. 498 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,484 And now I don't remember. 499 00:25:20,484 --> 00:25:22,374 I don't even know what ringtone I have on. 500 00:25:22,374 --> 00:25:23,757 It's never been on. 501 00:25:23,757 --> 00:25:27,413 I have never had my phone on. 502 00:25:27,413 --> 00:25:31,240 It's always been vibrating on my watch, or just vibration. 503 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,262 I don't want to hear it. 504 00:25:32,262 --> 00:25:34,336 I don't want to hear it in my personal life. 505 00:25:34,336 --> 00:25:36,060 I certainly don't want to hear yours. 506 00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:39,517 Speaker 2: And the only time I will say that I turn the ringer 507 00:25:39,596 --> 00:25:43,773 on on my phone is like when my wife is traveling or flying or 508 00:25:43,795 --> 00:25:44,035 something. 509 00:25:44,035 --> 00:25:47,907 I want to make sure that I don't miss any phone calls or 510 00:25:48,108 --> 00:25:49,172 anything like that. 511 00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:52,361 I will turn it on then, but it usually goes right back off 512 00:25:52,621 --> 00:25:53,001 anyways. 513 00:25:53,001 --> 00:25:57,340 But if your phone does ring, for Christ's sake don't answer 514 00:25:57,381 --> 00:25:57,441 it. 515 00:25:57,441 --> 00:26:01,260 Or if you do answer it, say hold on and get out of the room 516 00:26:01,329 --> 00:26:03,719 and don't have your conversation in the room. 517 00:26:03,719 --> 00:26:07,017 I just common sense people. 518 00:26:07,017 --> 00:26:09,063 Bullet point three under technology. 519 00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:11,717 And I will admit this is probably a shortcoming of mine, 520 00:26:11,757 --> 00:26:15,894 just because I'm an old curmudgeon-y guy and maybe 521 00:26:16,654 --> 00:26:19,762 because when I went to college people didn't take computers. 522 00:26:19,762 --> 00:26:23,560 Nobody had a laptop in the early 90s that I knew, at least 523 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:24,592 In my fraternity. 524 00:26:24,592 --> 00:26:28,481 I was the only person with a desktop computer in my 525 00:26:28,501 --> 00:26:29,002 fraternity. 526 00:26:29,002 --> 00:26:31,396 So yeah, there weren't a lot of computers. 527 00:26:31,396 --> 00:26:32,359 You went to the computer lab. 528 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:45,057 But anyways, the clicking on the 7 am breakout, the 7.30 am 529 00:26:45,097 --> 00:26:47,005 breakout session, and I live over an hour and a half away and 530 00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:47,586 I'm not a morning person. 531 00:26:47,586 --> 00:26:50,474 I got up there, I got in, I got there on time, ready to go, and 532 00:26:50,474 --> 00:26:51,356 this person is. 533 00:26:51,356 --> 00:26:54,354 It sounded like she had a freaking typewriter. 534 00:26:54,354 --> 00:26:56,684 I was just waiting for that ding and then the return noise 535 00:26:57,207 --> 00:26:57,890 as it returns. 536 00:26:57,890 --> 00:27:03,278 It was so loud and it was I don't know I. 537 00:27:03,278 --> 00:27:04,760 I was like do you? 538 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,493 I wanted to turn around just to see did she have a typewriter? 539 00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:13,083 I've never heard a keyboard that loud on a computer in my 540 00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:13,390 life. 541 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:17,438 Speaker 3: It was so yeah that that I was that person, I'm that 542 00:27:17,438 --> 00:27:23,034 person I don't think you could have a keyboard that loud I have 543 00:27:23,034 --> 00:27:26,882 nails and my nails clickety-clack on a keyboard and 544 00:27:26,882 --> 00:27:28,223 that is I. 545 00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:34,398 I was in a conference once and someone I think they I don't 546 00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:38,869 know if there's a sensory reaction to pen clicking, like 547 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:39,111 people. 548 00:27:39,111 --> 00:27:40,477 I know that drives people crazy . 549 00:27:40,477 --> 00:27:43,378 This person thought I was clicking my pen. 550 00:27:43,378 --> 00:27:45,678 No, I was clickety clacking on my keyboard. 551 00:27:45,678 --> 00:27:50,357 And the guy like interrupted the whole session and was just 552 00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:54,484 like can someone stop clicking their pen? 553 00:27:54,484 --> 00:27:57,839 And I was like, and this is like 70 people in a room? 554 00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,737 And I was just I think that was me. 555 00:27:59,737 --> 00:28:06,075 So anyway, I'm so paranoid of typing in public now no, I can't 556 00:28:06,075 --> 00:28:07,820 imagine that being just fingernails. 557 00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:09,711 Speaker 2: That was like it felt . 558 00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:14,558 It sounded like mechanical pushed down hard key strokes 559 00:28:14,638 --> 00:28:17,102 that you would have to do with that. 560 00:28:17,102 --> 00:28:19,644 It was really, really bad. 561 00:28:19,644 --> 00:28:24,953 My fourth bullet under technology, taking pictures of 562 00:28:25,173 --> 00:28:26,737 every goddamn slide. 563 00:28:27,618 --> 00:28:30,763 Oh yeah, this makes it all better. 564 00:28:30,763 --> 00:28:35,093 First, the session that the lady that was sitting directly 565 00:28:35,113 --> 00:28:36,375 in front of me was doing this one a. 566 00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:37,858 It was on ai and hr. 567 00:28:37,858 --> 00:28:42,753 So I'm like, you're not even ready for windows 3.1, much less 568 00:28:42,753 --> 00:28:44,336 ai and hr. 569 00:28:44,336 --> 00:28:46,180 But she had. 570 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:50,692 I've never seen an ipad it was an ipad brand this big. 571 00:28:50,692 --> 00:28:54,792 I mean my computer, my laptop monitor is 15 inches, I think it 572 00:28:54,792 --> 00:29:00,107 was bigger than that and she stood up and took a picture of 573 00:29:00,189 --> 00:29:00,450 each slide. 574 00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:04,415 Not only that, but each time an animation came and a new thing 575 00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:09,684 came on new line, she'd stand up again and then triple down on 576 00:29:09,744 --> 00:29:10,005 that. 577 00:29:10,005 --> 00:29:15,423 She had the little shutter sound on her ginormous iPad. 578 00:29:15,423 --> 00:29:20,459 So every time she hit the button to take a picture or 579 00:29:20,579 --> 00:29:24,957 whatever the sound is that, it does it, and I was just I was 580 00:29:25,298 --> 00:29:25,819 losing it. 581 00:29:25,819 --> 00:29:30,961 But, like I said, the monitor on my laptop in front of me is 582 00:29:31,020 --> 00:29:31,643 15 inches. 583 00:29:31,643 --> 00:29:35,778 It was an iPad and it was bigger than that. 584 00:29:35,778 --> 00:29:39,105 I've never seen anything that big. 585 00:29:39,105 --> 00:29:40,089 It was crazy. 586 00:29:40,289 --> 00:29:43,718 Speaker 3: But the shutter sound on and all this, I'm like yeah 587 00:29:43,758 --> 00:29:50,299 it was bad and also the slides will be given to you. 588 00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes. 589 00:29:51,130 --> 00:29:53,538 Speaker 3: You don't have to take a picture of the slides. 590 00:29:53,878 --> 00:29:56,056 Speaker 2: Yeah, and standing up to do it too. 591 00:29:56,056 --> 00:30:00,279 Not only did she stand up, she held her ginormous iPad up above 592 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:05,174 her head as she's doing it, and I think my grandmother, who's 593 00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:08,760 still alive at 106 years old, could do better than she could 594 00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:10,304 at dealing with this stuff. 595 00:30:10,304 --> 00:30:10,384 Aw. 596 00:30:10,403 --> 00:30:10,865 Speaker 3: Grandma. 597 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:16,212 Speaker 2: Anybody is years old could do better than she could 598 00:30:16,232 --> 00:30:17,174 at dealing with this grandma. 599 00:30:17,174 --> 00:30:18,136 Anybody is. 600 00:30:18,136 --> 00:30:18,959 Bullet number three be spatially aware. 601 00:30:18,959 --> 00:30:23,106 This is a something that's left human beings for eons. 602 00:30:23,106 --> 00:30:27,071 You know we've lost the ability to be spatially aware. 603 00:30:27,071 --> 00:30:31,655 Whether you're in the grocery store or at a conference, like 604 00:30:31,675 --> 00:30:36,099 there's to the main room where the big speakers were was a 605 00:30:36,118 --> 00:30:40,682 corridor and of course one wall of the corridor has sponsors and 606 00:30:40,682 --> 00:30:42,044 tables and things like that. 607 00:30:42,044 --> 00:30:45,646 So your corridor space is cut in a third right then. 608 00:30:45,646 --> 00:30:50,153 And then you just have people just all of a sudden decide 609 00:30:50,173 --> 00:30:51,556 they're going to stop in the middle of this busy corridor and 610 00:30:51,556 --> 00:30:54,101 have their little conversation and block the progress for 611 00:30:54,221 --> 00:30:57,355 everybody else when, hey, I've got to be in the other building 612 00:30:57,414 --> 00:31:00,021 in five minutes for my session I want to do. 613 00:31:00,021 --> 00:31:04,160 Just get against the wall, take it out of the corridor area, do 614 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,739 something, but don't have your ketchup in the middle of the 615 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,280 corridor. 616 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,147 Be spatially aware in the middle of the quarter, be 617 00:31:10,167 --> 00:31:10,489 spatially aware. 618 00:31:10,489 --> 00:31:15,515 I'm like, ah, and then my final bullet is have some fucking 619 00:31:15,575 --> 00:31:16,357 self-respect. 620 00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:19,349 I absolutely. 621 00:31:19,349 --> 00:31:20,713 You're so salty. 622 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:26,641 I have some fucking self-respect. 623 00:31:26,641 --> 00:31:28,336 These people don't. 624 00:31:28,336 --> 00:31:32,396 How many of those stupid shopping bag totes with whatever 625 00:31:32,396 --> 00:31:35,863 stupid vendor that you're never going to use or hear from again 626 00:31:35,863 --> 00:31:35,863 . 627 00:31:35,863 --> 00:31:36,483 Do you need? 628 00:31:36,483 --> 00:31:39,954 These people are lining up and the same thing pisses me off at 629 00:31:39,994 --> 00:31:43,451 Costco or Sam's Club or anything like that People lining up for 630 00:31:43,471 --> 00:31:47,698 your little two-ounce sample of flavored water or a granola bar, 631 00:31:47,698 --> 00:31:51,063 that you're getting like one thirty-second of a granola bar 632 00:31:51,124 --> 00:31:53,852 and you're lining up for that crap and that. 633 00:31:53,852 --> 00:31:58,300 But they're lining up to get this, this shopping bags and 634 00:31:58,682 --> 00:31:59,222 things like that. 635 00:31:59,530 --> 00:32:01,738 I walked around the exhibitor halls and things like. 636 00:32:01,738 --> 00:32:02,621 I just looked around. 637 00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:03,730 I didn't. 638 00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:07,397 The only piece of swag I actually got was UKG was one of 639 00:32:07,417 --> 00:32:10,583 the premier sponsors, was like putting it in your hand as you 640 00:32:10,623 --> 00:32:14,219 walked by and it was in my goodwill pile. 641 00:32:14,219 --> 00:32:16,528 I had never even made it inside the house, it was in the 642 00:32:16,567 --> 00:32:19,034 goodwill pile in the garage by the time I got home. 643 00:32:19,474 --> 00:32:24,023 But but they some of these people I kid you not were going 644 00:32:25,252 --> 00:32:28,740 like losing their shit over these shopping bags and had one 645 00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,866 of those shopping bags with like six other shopping bags more 646 00:32:30,779 --> 00:32:31,259 than six shopping bags inside, had one of those shopping bags 647 00:32:31,173 --> 00:32:33,319 with like six other shopping bags, more than six shopping 648 00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:34,222 bags inside of it. 649 00:32:34,222 --> 00:32:37,380 That's what they were, the swag items they wanted to pick up. 650 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:41,169 And you know the only thing that I don't have any dogs 651 00:32:41,229 --> 00:32:41,410 anymore. 652 00:32:41,410 --> 00:32:46,313 Mine are all across the little rainbow bridge but there was 653 00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:48,440 some, like had a little tennis ball. 654 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,855 I was like, oh, if my dog was still around I'd get that, I'd 655 00:32:50,894 --> 00:32:53,259 go by and pick that up and things like that. 656 00:32:53,259 --> 00:32:57,711 But people, you're hoarding, this is hoarding. 657 00:32:57,711 --> 00:33:00,316 You're the people I do not want bringing something in for 658 00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:05,080 potluck lunch because you've got the cat hair and you've got the 659 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,202 other stuff. 660 00:33:06,202 --> 00:33:08,365 You're the reason I will not eat at a potluck. 661 00:33:09,871 --> 00:33:12,917 Speaker 3: I do a potluck, I will say popular opinion. 662 00:33:12,917 --> 00:33:15,372 I very much dislike swag. 663 00:33:15,372 --> 00:33:19,621 I am not a swag person For a lot of the reasons that you just 664 00:33:19,621 --> 00:33:24,474 said, because I A I'm too lazy to bring it home Like there's 665 00:33:24,575 --> 00:33:24,976 nothing. 666 00:33:24,976 --> 00:33:29,471 There's assuming that I go to these things and I'm traveling 667 00:33:29,511 --> 00:33:33,381 and I'm on a plane and, like you know, there's the logistics of 668 00:33:33,461 --> 00:33:34,262 all this crap. 669 00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:36,036 I won't bring it home. 670 00:33:36,036 --> 00:33:39,136 The only way I'll lose my crap over something, if it's 671 00:33:39,196 --> 00:33:44,470 something like that is of any kind of useful value to me oh, 672 00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:48,541 give me like an upgraded power bank, or I'll do that. 673 00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:50,055 Or maybe, if you have a Stanley Cup that you have branded with 674 00:33:50,075 --> 00:33:50,576 your logo, I'll do that. 675 00:33:50,576 --> 00:33:52,523 Or maybe, if you have a Stanley cup that you have branded with 676 00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:54,271 your logo, I'll do that. 677 00:33:54,271 --> 00:34:00,843 But I'm not gonna stand in line for a pop socket of a brand 678 00:34:01,262 --> 00:34:02,125 that I don't use. 679 00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:03,451 That's just for me. 680 00:34:03,451 --> 00:34:05,076 I don't, I don't care. 681 00:34:05,656 --> 00:34:09,994 And I remember I went to a Sherm event once and I met up with 682 00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:12,050 you know, you meet someone there and you start to kind of chat 683 00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:16,601 and walk around with them and she was a swag person, she was a 684 00:34:16,601 --> 00:34:19,030 swag girly and I don't. 685 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:25,063 I don't need this crappy 89 cent water branded water bottle. 686 00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:25,923 I don't need it. 687 00:34:25,923 --> 00:34:28,594 So anyway, I don't. 688 00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:31,782 I'm not a swag person, again, unless it's something cool. 689 00:34:31,782 --> 00:34:37,217 How about a nice for my company , right, put a nice company logo 690 00:34:37,217 --> 00:34:37,778 and hoodie. 691 00:34:37,778 --> 00:34:41,601 I'm all about that Because, again, some days you're lazy and 692 00:34:41,601 --> 00:34:44,492 you work from home and you just want to throw on a hoodie and 693 00:34:44,532 --> 00:34:48,481 it's company branded and you're in dress code and it's so easy 694 00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:49,043 and wonderful. 695 00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:50,594 I'll do that all day. 696 00:34:50,594 --> 00:34:54,394 Coffee mug, sure, but no, I don't want it. 697 00:34:54,394 --> 00:34:58,563 For a company that I don't even use, unless I work there. 698 00:34:58,563 --> 00:34:59,110 I don't want it. 699 00:34:59,753 --> 00:35:02,659 Speaker 2: When we moved now I don't drink coffee, my wife does 700 00:35:02,659 --> 00:35:08,201 , and when we moved we've got rid of literally hundreds of 701 00:35:08,282 --> 00:35:08,983 coffee mugs. 702 00:35:08,983 --> 00:35:11,561 Things we picked up over the years former employers well, 703 00:35:11,465 --> 00:35:11,909 former employers of mine, she's been things we picked up over 704 00:35:11,813 --> 00:35:13,673 the years, former employers, former employers of mine as 705 00:35:13,713 --> 00:35:17,052 she's only she's been the same place 17 plus years but former 706 00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:20,701 employers of mine and just things you pick up and you get 707 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,635 somewhere where you're like no, no, no, no, and like you're one 708 00:35:23,695 --> 00:35:27,722 person and she saved like six coffee cups and mugs and that's 709 00:35:27,869 --> 00:35:32,360 it, and now she's basically only using her Stanley-style cups 710 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:34,103 for her coffees now. 711 00:35:34,103 --> 00:35:38,679 So those four, six, whatever we saved, are just gathering dust 712 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,021 somewhere in a cabinet somewhere . 713 00:35:41,463 --> 00:35:47,221 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't tell you how many mugs and cups that 714 00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:48,684 we've purged over the years. 715 00:35:48,909 --> 00:35:52,509 Speaker 2: It's like no, and Goodwill doesn't even want that 716 00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:56,115 shit anymore yeah, I don't need an adp mug. 717 00:35:56,637 --> 00:35:59,181 Speaker 3: I don't even use adp as an hris. 718 00:35:59,181 --> 00:36:00,684 Why would I want this? 719 00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:03,998 Speaker 2: yeah, exactly, and I, yeah, just. 720 00:36:03,998 --> 00:36:07,590 But I will say, on the swag end , when I did college recruiting, 721 00:36:07,590 --> 00:36:11,481 we I think our swag budget was a little bit higher. 722 00:36:11,481 --> 00:36:14,619 We got some cool toys and neat things. 723 00:36:14,619 --> 00:36:17,137 Let's see, when did I quit doing? 724 00:36:17,137 --> 00:36:17,980 Stop doing that. 725 00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:21,489 I think I did that in 2005 is when I stopped. 726 00:36:21,489 --> 00:36:26,472 So it's been a long time since I've been recruiting, but at the 727 00:36:26,472 --> 00:36:28,920 end of the conference none of the recruiters wanted to pack up 728 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,440 their shit. 729 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,460 They're like giving it to other recruiters and stuff like that, 730 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:38,364 because the recruiters have better stuff. 731 00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:44,121 At least in the 90s or 2005 when I quit doing that, you had 732 00:36:44,501 --> 00:36:47,833 cool stuff and I would get some things to take home to my kids 733 00:36:47,994 --> 00:36:49,717 and things like that. 734 00:36:49,717 --> 00:36:52,422 But after we were closing, hey, before you pack away, can I get 735 00:36:52,422 --> 00:36:53,224 one of those for my kid? 736 00:36:53,224 --> 00:36:54,407 Yeah, yeah, have it. 737 00:36:54,407 --> 00:36:55,628 Can I get a Frisbee? 738 00:36:55,628 --> 00:37:00,050 Yeah, you know we would swag trade on doing that, but none of 739 00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:01,755 the recruiters wanted to pack their crap up. 740 00:37:02,117 --> 00:37:07,414 Speaker 3: So, yeah, Although I will say I have a natural love 741 00:37:07,494 --> 00:37:10,097 and a gift for actually creating good swag. 742 00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:13,960 Nothing gets people more crazy than having like a limited 743 00:37:14,021 --> 00:37:15,262 edition of something. 744 00:37:15,682 --> 00:37:15,822 Speaker 2: Okay. 745 00:37:16,063 --> 00:37:18,846 Speaker 3: And the same goes for company swag. 746 00:37:18,846 --> 00:37:26,813 And I would say, if you do have invite only programs or 747 00:37:26,833 --> 00:37:29,601 anything like that, like leadership programs or something 748 00:37:29,601 --> 00:37:32,050 like that, invest in some really good programs or 749 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:33,132 something like that. 750 00:37:33,132 --> 00:37:34,454 Invest in some really good I don't know, like whatever. 751 00:37:34,454 --> 00:37:37,621 Whatever water bottle or shit is popular at the moment and you 752 00:37:37,621 --> 00:37:41,974 get that branded with the year and only x number were made and 753 00:37:42,034 --> 00:37:43,378 it's only for participants. 754 00:37:43,378 --> 00:37:45,943 People lose their mind for that stuff. 755 00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:51,255 Speaker 2: They want it well, the only other job my wife has 756 00:37:51,315 --> 00:37:54,599 had as an adult well, actually she started before she was an 757 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,523 adult was at, I guess you might even say, people's former 758 00:37:58,585 --> 00:38:00,467 favorite French company, target. 759 00:38:00,467 --> 00:38:03,579 She was there for a very long time. 760 00:38:03,579 --> 00:38:06,458 I think their reputation has sort of taken a nosedive 761 00:38:06,579 --> 00:38:07,041 recently. 762 00:38:07,931 --> 00:38:08,956 Speaker 3: Some stupid decisions . 763 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:11,353 Speaker 2: So she was. 764 00:38:11,353 --> 00:38:14,282 They did these, these things, for they called them hypo 765 00:38:14,409 --> 00:38:14,831 classes. 766 00:38:14,831 --> 00:38:18,998 So you got identified as a high potential person and a swag 767 00:38:19,099 --> 00:38:21,364 they got was really she's still. 768 00:38:21,364 --> 00:38:24,518 She's been at her current company 17 years and she did the 769 00:38:24,518 --> 00:38:26,971 hypo because she ended up moving into management there 770 00:38:27,391 --> 00:38:29,996 somewhere along her her career, but she's. 771 00:38:29,996 --> 00:38:36,253 We still have this attache bag target and it's like hypo I 772 00:38:36,273 --> 00:38:38,818 don't even know the year that's written on it or anything like 773 00:38:38,838 --> 00:38:44,135 that hypo team or a class of whatever, and it was a nice 774 00:38:44,376 --> 00:38:48,744 high-end attache bag thing and like, yeah, we'll put our to 775 00:38:48,764 --> 00:38:52,019 this day for traveling and we need to take our computers with 776 00:38:52,090 --> 00:38:52,170 us. 777 00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:54,554 That's, that's what she uses and and. 778 00:38:54,574 --> 00:38:58,744 But where I was going to go with this is people who were not 779 00:38:58,829 --> 00:39:04,059 high potentials got pissed when they see, you know, here here's 780 00:39:04,099 --> 00:39:08,556 dawn, in her little attache or her hoodie or whatever that says 781 00:39:08,556 --> 00:39:11,905 you know, hypo class of 2010. 782 00:39:11,905 --> 00:39:14,715 I don't have it would have been longer than that, but no, maybe 783 00:39:14,715 --> 00:39:15,076 I don't know. 784 00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:16,121 Yeah, too long or not. 785 00:39:16,121 --> 00:39:19,432 She's been gone since then, but you know, whatever, the hypo 786 00:39:19,472 --> 00:39:20,454 class of whatever is they. 787 00:39:20,454 --> 00:39:22,380 Those people got to go to minnesota. 788 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:26,315 They got to do this extra trainings and development and, 789 00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:28,581 and and the people who were not selected? 790 00:39:28,581 --> 00:39:31,135 Were they probably? 791 00:39:31,135 --> 00:39:33,121 I bet most of them left pretty quickly. 792 00:39:33,121 --> 00:39:36,420 She was telling me about all these people sneering at her. 793 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:39,215 I'm like, do your fucking job and you can be. 794 00:39:39,215 --> 00:39:41,320 It's not that hard to be a hypo . 795 00:39:41,742 --> 00:39:44,134 Speaker 3: Yeah, so one of the things that I don't know if 796 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:47,159 you're familiar with the Levenger brand, but they make 797 00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:48,563 like disc notebooks. 798 00:39:48,742 --> 00:39:52,927 Okay, I'm not familiar with like this notebook either so they're 799 00:39:52,927 --> 00:39:56,722 leather leather front, leather back, and then the only thing 800 00:39:56,744 --> 00:39:58,250 that binds them are these really ? 801 00:39:58,250 --> 00:40:01,481 They're literally discs and they're like loose discs. 802 00:40:01,481 --> 00:40:04,652 But once it's specially paper, specially punched, so once it's 803 00:40:04,692 --> 00:40:06,153 all together it looks really cool. 804 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:10,280 But anyway, I got I call I lovingly call them Flevenger 805 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,672 because it's like the Office Depot version, but it's like the 806 00:40:14,672 --> 00:40:15,918 same kind of disk system. 807 00:40:15,918 --> 00:40:18,951 Anyway, I special ordered those through the website and if you 808 00:40:18,990 --> 00:40:21,277 special order them through the website you can get them 809 00:40:21,398 --> 00:40:21,920 embossed. 810 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,157 So they basically take an embossing thing and emboss the 811 00:40:24,197 --> 00:40:24,438 leather. 812 00:40:24,438 --> 00:40:28,380 So I got the acronym of the program, which was MDP. 813 00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:32,836 I got that embossed and all 20 participants got one of those 814 00:40:32,876 --> 00:40:36,664 like fancy leather notebooks with the MDP embossed in it. 815 00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:40,393 People lost their damn minds and this is one of the similar 816 00:40:40,432 --> 00:40:42,498 programs where people would travel in all over from the 817 00:40:42,539 --> 00:40:48,501 country and yada, yada, and yeah , people lost their minds. 818 00:40:48,501 --> 00:40:52,036 I got calls, I got everything, like can I get one of those? 819 00:40:52,036 --> 00:40:55,673 And I'm like, no, you have to be part of the program to get 820 00:40:55,753 --> 00:40:56,657 one of these binders. 821 00:40:56,657 --> 00:40:59,432 Sorry, you can't sit with us. 822 00:40:59,432 --> 00:41:01,231 Try again next year. 823 00:41:01,231 --> 00:41:02,217 I don't know what to tell you. 824 00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:03,972 Speaker 2: Not a cool kid. 825 00:41:03,972 --> 00:41:14,880 Also, a company I work with got these really nice faux leather 826 00:41:15,282 --> 00:41:16,344 but what do you call them? 827 00:41:16,344 --> 00:41:20,338 Portfolios that you know you can hold a pen, a calculator, 828 00:41:20,418 --> 00:41:22,483 business cards, a notepad and things like that. 829 00:41:22,483 --> 00:41:25,077 They were faux leather but they were embossed with the company 830 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:31,574 logo and all the new hires got one on their first day and they 831 00:41:31,594 --> 00:41:35,333 had it before I started and but we got to the point where people 832 00:41:35,333 --> 00:41:36,235 would keep coming in. 833 00:41:36,235 --> 00:41:41,193 Well, first, one time my the hr supply room got raided and like 834 00:41:41,193 --> 00:41:44,920 dozens of them ended up missing , which you know, along with 835 00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,577 some of the nicer polos that were really supposed to be for 836 00:41:48,597 --> 00:41:49,159 managers. 837 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,610 Speaker 3: but I, I'm like this is why we can't have nice things 838 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:51,931 yeah. 839 00:41:52,351 --> 00:41:54,376 Speaker 2: And that's what ultimately happened. 840 00:41:54,376 --> 00:41:57,391 They wanted to do budget cuts and those damn portfolios. 841 00:41:57,391 --> 00:41:59,896 I fought for them because everybody loved them, and it was 842 00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:00,800 , you know. 843 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,617 Oh, and the next person we hired oh, you started and you 844 00:42:04,657 --> 00:42:06,561 didn't get one of these really cool portfolios. 845 00:42:06,561 --> 00:42:09,056 I mean, I have mine somewhere still. 846 00:42:09,056 --> 00:42:14,335 It was a really good, nice product, and it was, you know. 847 00:42:14,335 --> 00:42:15,036 I even tried. 848 00:42:15,036 --> 00:42:18,614 I told him I wanted to keep it and I said I'll go for a lesser 849 00:42:18,675 --> 00:42:20,139 brand, a cheaper product. 850 00:42:20,139 --> 00:42:24,498 You know, I think this was a is it K-Swiss or something Swiss 851 00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:25,681 brand or something. 852 00:42:25,681 --> 00:42:28,574 It was really nice but like, yeah, we could, I could go to a 853 00:42:28,634 --> 00:42:31,641 lesser brand and I can save a few dollars per one. 854 00:42:31,641 --> 00:42:33,472 And no, they didn't want to do that. 855 00:42:33,472 --> 00:42:36,940 So, okay, those went away and I was like I would just hate to 856 00:42:36,981 --> 00:42:37,791 be that next person. 857 00:42:37,791 --> 00:42:41,085 You know, our this, this recruiting class got our last 858 00:42:41,286 --> 00:42:44,833 one and then the next recruiting class sorry, you get. 859 00:42:44,833 --> 00:42:49,561 You get a t-shirt and a little plastic cup and whatever else. 860 00:42:49,661 --> 00:42:50,864 Speaker 3: And a ballpoint pen. 861 00:42:52,949 --> 00:42:53,331 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so. 862 00:42:53,331 --> 00:42:58,012 Swag is good, you can have some good things with it, but the 863 00:42:58,052 --> 00:43:00,820 stuff they're giving away at the Sherpa conferences, there's 864 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:01,463 nothing. 865 00:43:01,463 --> 00:43:04,030 Like I said, one of the companies had a tennis ball If I 866 00:43:04,030 --> 00:43:08,338 still had a dog I would have grabbed it but no dog, no ball. 867 00:43:08,338 --> 00:43:13,119 So yeah, y'all are hoarders, but no dog, no ball. 868 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,858 So yeah, y'all are hoarders. 869 00:43:14,858 --> 00:43:19,481 So that's really all that I had for today. 870 00:43:19,481 --> 00:43:21,221 You have anything else? 871 00:43:22,501 --> 00:43:23,161 Speaker 3: I got nothing. 872 00:43:23,161 --> 00:43:26,483 I came a little unprepared to today's meeting, so I apologize. 873 00:43:26,483 --> 00:43:30,643 I provided some great insight, though oh, I will say you know, 874 00:43:30,684 --> 00:43:31,463 you reminded me. 875 00:43:31,463 --> 00:43:33,224 Yeah, I gave myself credit. 876 00:43:33,224 --> 00:43:36,184 I provided great insight as she passed herself on the back. 877 00:43:36,184 --> 00:43:37,585 You did. 878 00:43:37,585 --> 00:43:43,686 So I will say just your whole topic of being a good conference 879 00:43:43,686 --> 00:43:44,347 attendee. 880 00:43:44,867 --> 00:43:47,728 A few weeks ago, three of our friends went out to a comedy 881 00:43:47,768 --> 00:43:52,931 club, and one of which she's a lovely person, she's just also a 882 00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:56,539 messy person and I guess she had a few drinks before she went 883 00:43:56,539 --> 00:43:59,853 to the comedy club pre-game and while she was which is, yeah, 884 00:44:00,034 --> 00:44:03,963 just a classic pre-game which I I cannot pre-game anymore, that 885 00:44:04,003 --> 00:44:06,574 is that, that's just it would. 886 00:44:06,574 --> 00:44:11,001 It would be bad, but I would actually. 887 00:44:11,001 --> 00:44:13,731 So, anyway, she pre-games, she goes to the comedy club, they 888 00:44:13,751 --> 00:44:19,018 have an opener to warm everyone up and she started heckling the 889 00:44:19,059 --> 00:44:23,659 person and then she was drunkenly heckling them and just 890 00:44:23,659 --> 00:44:24,541 kind of being rude. 891 00:44:24,541 --> 00:44:27,411 Our other two friends were just so embarrassed they're like 892 00:44:27,472 --> 00:44:30,996 we're not with her and finally she was just like this sucks, 893 00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:33,454 I'm out of here and she stumbles out. 894 00:44:33,454 --> 00:44:36,623 She got an uber, she's fine, she's messy, but she's 895 00:44:36,664 --> 00:44:37,186 responsible. 896 00:44:38,027 --> 00:44:41,900 And anyway, the punchline of the story is that, as they were 897 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:44,389 leaving my one of the friends that remained. 898 00:44:44,389 --> 00:44:48,661 She has one of those wearables like the ai wearables, okay, and 899 00:44:48,661 --> 00:44:50,987 she lets it play all day, she lets it record all day. 900 00:44:50,987 --> 00:44:52,956 So she lets it record all day, so it just gives her end of day 901 00:44:53,016 --> 00:44:57,842 notes and it picked up the whole interaction of the friend 902 00:44:57,882 --> 00:45:02,193 heckling the comedian and being very rude by the way rude and it 903 00:45:02,193 --> 00:45:06,539 just gave my friend articles of how to be a good audience 904 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:11,983 attendance and I thought that was fucking hilarious. 905 00:45:11,983 --> 00:45:15,414 She was like, yeah, the ai thing, just heard the whole 906 00:45:15,454 --> 00:45:18,045 conversation hold the, heard the whole interacting at 907 00:45:18,065 --> 00:45:22,375 interaction and then sent her articles on how to behave proper 908 00:45:22,375 --> 00:45:27,284 etiquette at a live show and I was like this is how, this is 909 00:45:27,364 --> 00:45:30,938 how ai will save the future oh, I'm, I'm all in. 910 00:45:30,958 --> 00:45:32,420 Speaker 2: if that's the case, all in. 911 00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:33,222 I love that. 912 00:45:33,222 --> 00:45:37,501 I was hoping for a story, because I don't go to. 913 00:45:37,501 --> 00:45:40,619 I've been to a comedy clubs, I don't know a few times, not that 914 00:45:40,619 --> 00:45:44,378 many, but it seems like every time I go there's a heckler, the 915 00:45:44,378 --> 00:45:45,039 drunk guy. 916 00:45:45,061 --> 00:45:45,742 Speaker 3: So stupid. 917 00:45:46,530 --> 00:45:49,780 Speaker 2: And I love when the comedian just stops and they've 918 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,541 prepared for this. 919 00:45:50,541 --> 00:45:52,396 You know they're ready. 920 00:45:52,396 --> 00:45:54,255 You can't say anything to them. 921 00:45:54,255 --> 00:45:55,500 They haven't heard before. 922 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,597 You know, like going back to when I was umpiring, you know 923 00:45:58,836 --> 00:46:00,822 the saying is you never argue with umpires. 924 00:46:00,822 --> 00:46:02,577 It's like mud wrestling with a pig. 925 00:46:02,577 --> 00:46:06,713 It's fun until you realize the pig enjoys it and the heckler is 926 00:46:06,713 --> 00:46:07,838 ready for anything. 927 00:46:07,838 --> 00:46:11,420 You may think you're the coolest, smartest, wittiest 928 00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:11,701 person. 929 00:46:11,701 --> 00:46:15,376 They've heard it before and they've got a comeback ready for 930 00:46:15,376 --> 00:46:15,556 you. 931 00:46:15,556 --> 00:46:18,503 And I went to this one guy. 932 00:46:18,503 --> 00:46:21,597 I actually ended up feeling a little bit bad for the heckler. 933 00:46:21,597 --> 00:46:24,851 I couldn't remember what he said, but the comedian just 934 00:46:24,931 --> 00:46:29,922 decided, oh, it's on, and just destroyed the guy and then the 935 00:46:29,961 --> 00:46:31,384 guy got taken out. 936 00:46:31,384 --> 00:46:33,815 He didn't say anything more after the heckler started. 937 00:46:33,815 --> 00:46:36,081 But after the heckler was it? 938 00:46:36,081 --> 00:46:40,922 The guys in the yellow shirts had him leaving Bye-bye. 939 00:46:40,922 --> 00:46:45,346 It's like I said before, I love watching that Torrance of 940 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:45,989 Yellowstone. 941 00:46:45,989 --> 00:46:49,679 I'm always rooting for the buffalo or the moose or whatever 942 00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:50,442 animal it is. 943 00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:54,416 I'm like, yeah, just yeah gore them, stomp them, it's a natural 944 00:46:54,416 --> 00:46:56,822 selection yep, exactly so. 945 00:46:57,605 --> 00:47:01,293 Speaking of selection, you can select to become a patreon 946 00:47:01,313 --> 00:47:01,795 supporter. 947 00:47:01,795 --> 00:47:03,659 You just follow the links to the show. 948 00:47:03,659 --> 00:47:06,793 It sounds a great saying show. 949 00:47:06,793 --> 00:47:10,159 Follow the links to the show notes and support us on Patreon, 950 00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:13,724 like Hallie, the original Jaded HR rock star, bill or Mike. 951 00:47:13,724 --> 00:47:16,137 So thank you for your support. 952 00:47:16,137 --> 00:47:18,016 I haven't checked reviews lately. 953 00:47:18,016 --> 00:47:21,275 I meant to do that before the show, so next show I will see if 954 00:47:21,275 --> 00:47:23,936 there's any reviews, but please leave us a review. 955 00:47:23,936 --> 00:47:26,432 We will read it good, bad and different on there. 956 00:47:26,432 --> 00:47:29,295 And 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Speaker 2: It's your fault, charlie Brown, for falling for 970 00:48:01,034 --> 00:48:02,177 it every single time. 971 00:48:02,177 --> 00:48:03,460 You block it Every time. 972 00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:06,112 All righty With all that. 973 00:48:06,112 --> 00:48:10,684 Let's see here the intro is the voice artist is andrew colpa, 974 00:48:10,726 --> 00:48:14,094 who does the intro, and then the music is underscore orchestra 975 00:48:14,155 --> 00:48:19,608 devil, the devil, and now, as always, I'm warren I'm cc and 976 00:48:19,668 --> 00:48:21,010 we're here helping you survive. 977 00:48:21,010 --> 00:48:21,951 Hr one. 978 00:48:21,951 --> 00:48:34,356 What the fuck moment at a time yeah, thank you.