WEBVTT 00:00:50.616 --> 00:00:51.576 Thank you. 00:00:51.576 --> 00:00:55.378 Oh, waiting for cloud to start recording. 00:00:55.378 --> 00:01:00.240 Interesting, are we recording? 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:00.740 It didn't go so far. 00:01:00.740 --> 00:01:07.620 Five, four, three, two, two one it says it's recording okay, yeah, all righty. 00:01:07.861 --> 00:01:15.284 Welcome to Jaded HR to podcast by two HR professionals who want to help you get through work day by saying everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 00:01:15.284 --> 00:01:20.661 I'm Warren, I'm Cece, so we didn't have an episode. 00:01:20.661 --> 00:01:40.322 Two weeks ago somebody decided that they needed to spend five days in the hospital and that somebody was me, so we did not get the opportunity to record, but I have some really fun hospital stories I want to share before we get into the meat and potatoes of our HR podcast. 00:01:40.322 --> 00:01:42.587 I mentioned in the last episode. 00:01:42.587 --> 00:01:46.194 We did that I ruined my wife's Mother's Day by being sick. 00:01:46.194 --> 00:01:48.007 Well, we got to the root cause of it. 00:01:48.007 --> 00:01:49.245 I had gallstones. 00:01:49.245 --> 00:01:56.233 And not only did I have gallstones, I had one that slipped out of the gallbladder and was blocking a duct in my liver. 00:01:56.233 --> 00:02:08.746 So I've been feeling like crap all day the Thursday before Memorial Day weekend, and by four or five o'clock in the afternoon, as I'm getting ready to leave for work, I'm feeling just shit warmed over. 00:02:09.247 --> 00:02:10.188 My stomach was hurting. 00:02:10.229 --> 00:02:13.245 My back was hurting, I was just, I was a wreck. 00:02:13.245 --> 00:02:16.820 I texted my primary care doctor and I said hey, you know, we've been talking. 00:02:16.820 --> 00:02:24.453 I've been going to her for a couple of weeks and she was diagnosing me with GERD but wanted to do a CT scan, which I couldn't get until May 30th. 00:02:24.453 --> 00:02:32.449 But this I don't know what the date was of, the Thursday before Memorial Day, but it was before the 30th, and I was like I just texted her, I'm going to the hospital. 00:02:32.449 --> 00:02:35.222 I said I can't do this anymore and anyway. 00:02:35.222 --> 00:02:40.326 So I go to the hospital and the first person sees me, the PA. 00:02:40.326 --> 00:02:41.709 You know she's doing the test. 00:02:41.709 --> 00:02:42.830 She's thinking GERD too. 00:02:42.830 --> 00:02:44.270 So press down on your stump. 00:02:44.270 --> 00:02:52.445 Because she said, I have the symptoms of a gallbladder, but when you press down on the liver it's supposed to hurt, and I had no additional pain, nothing. 00:02:52.445 --> 00:02:57.207 So she's like I don't know and she goes this doesn't seem like GERD, but it's probably the closest thing. 00:02:57.650 --> 00:03:00.100 Anyways, I got my CT scan there in the hospital and there it was. 00:03:00.100 --> 00:03:04.611 I had an angry gallbladder and one of the stones was out, and so they admitted me. 00:03:04.611 --> 00:03:11.137 I got my gallbladder removed on the Friday, the next day, Friday late afternoon, as I had to squeeze me in. 00:03:11.137 --> 00:03:15.371 And then, but that stone that was blocking the bile duct. 00:03:15.371 --> 00:03:21.747 Oh, my liver is a wonderful thing type thing that doesn't have anything to do with my drinking. 00:03:21.747 --> 00:03:24.735 I asked multiple times and it's not. 00:03:24.735 --> 00:03:26.903 I don't have cirrhosis of the liver or anything, but it was. 00:03:26.903 --> 00:03:36.014 The stone ended up fully blocking this duct, and so I started getting very jaundiced and my wife was calling me Homer Simpson. 00:03:36.054 --> 00:03:39.443 She said you're looking orange like Homer Simpson and things like that. 00:03:39.443 --> 00:03:40.325 So well, the suck ass thing about all this. 00:03:40.325 --> 00:03:41.207 I needed the gallbladder came out. 00:03:41.207 --> 00:03:41.889 You know, quick and dirty. 00:03:41.889 --> 00:03:43.592 But the general surgeon so well, the suck ass thing about all this. 00:03:43.592 --> 00:03:47.002 I needed the gallbladder came out, you know quick and dirty. 00:03:47.544 --> 00:03:51.111 But the general surgeon says okay, you have the stone, it's here. 00:03:51.111 --> 00:03:54.366 He goes I've done the surgery before, I'll do it. 00:03:54.366 --> 00:03:56.070 He's a general surgeon at the hospital. 00:03:56.070 --> 00:03:57.501 He says I'll do it again. 00:03:57.501 --> 00:04:03.449 And he says, however, if it was me, I would want the GI doctor doing it and not a general surgeon. 00:04:03.449 --> 00:04:17.591 He says but I'm here all weekend and we're going to monitor your blood work and if your liver enzymes get too high, I'll go in and get it done, because we couldn't get a GI doctor until after the holiday weekend, so until Tuesday. 00:04:17.591 --> 00:04:19.447 So they're monitoring my liver. 00:04:19.447 --> 00:04:31.690 Apparently, the gallstone can shift it, which it did, and I got my enzymes back and I turned back to a human being color versus a Simpson color, and things started getting better for me once it shifted again. 00:04:31.690 --> 00:04:46.822 But anyways, I had to spend five days, six nights, in the hospital, or six days, five nights in the hospital, I should say, and having absolutely nothing to do, and the TV didn't work in the room I was in. 00:04:47.663 --> 00:04:48.144 Even better. 00:04:48.285 --> 00:04:55.362 Yeah, it was just God awful in so many ways, but I got, like I said, got some fun, interesting stories. 00:04:55.362 --> 00:04:56.867 So I was telling you all fair. 00:04:56.867 --> 00:05:07.887 My first surgery on that Friday was scheduled for like 3.30 and the doctor and all his assistant come in and they're talking okay, you're scheduled for 3.30. 00:05:07.887 --> 00:05:17.891 We're going to come, you're going to be taken down to the operating room staging gangway area, whatever they call it, an hour beforehand and all this I'm like, okay, fine, All's good. 00:05:17.891 --> 00:05:22.319 Well, at 12.30, I'm taking classes online. 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:31.884 At 12.30, I started a timed online quiz and it's I've only had half hour to do the quiz. 00:05:31.884 --> 00:05:33.788 Now, normally it only take 15, 20 minutes. 00:05:33.788 --> 00:05:49.146 It's not a big deal or anything, and but literally within seconds of me hitting start on the quiz, here comes everybody and their mother to okay, we're getting ready to take you down to pre op and I'm like whoa, I'm at 3.30. 00:05:49.146 --> 00:05:50.490 Give me 20 minutes. 00:05:50.490 --> 00:05:51.211 I just started quiz. 00:05:51.211 --> 00:05:54.531 She said, no, we're not giving you 20 minutes or anything like that. 00:05:55.194 --> 00:05:57.201 And so, oh, here's the first funny thing that happened. 00:05:57.201 --> 00:06:08.113 So there's all sorts of medical professionals in there and a medical transport person, the person who's responsible for wheeling you from your cart from place to place. 00:06:08.113 --> 00:06:12.127 So I'm in there and they say well, she goes, can you get up and use the restroom? 00:06:12.127 --> 00:06:13.230 And I said, yeah, I can do that. 00:06:13.230 --> 00:06:15.706 She goes okay, empty your bladder and all that. 00:06:15.706 --> 00:06:23.831 So I go use the restroom, I sit back down and she goes okay, now we need to do a scan of your bladder and make sure it's empty so we still don't have to give you a catheter. 00:06:24.932 --> 00:06:32.209 Okay, I signed the consent form allowing students to be in there and this one student and she was she was very sweet, very funny. 00:06:32.209 --> 00:06:35.261 She goes Ooh, she's like horse shack from welcome back. 00:06:35.261 --> 00:06:36.423 Ooh, I want to do the bladder scan. 00:06:36.423 --> 00:06:37.386 I want to do the bladder scan. 00:06:37.386 --> 00:06:48.600 And the head nurse goes okay, okay, here it is. 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:59.572 Bam, the sheets come off my bed, bam, my, my gown is up to my neck and there I am, like with air, like I've I'd never, in the entire time I was there, I had that many people in my room in all my, all my glory, and she's scanning my bladder and she's having a good old time. 00:06:59.572 --> 00:07:00.622 And she goes I got it. 00:07:00.622 --> 00:07:06.865 I got it and I was okay, just didn't have any care for my modesty or anything like that. 00:07:07.065 --> 00:07:07.187 No. 00:07:07.821 --> 00:07:15.329 So I mean, it was just whip down the bed sheet and whip up my gown and I'm like, okay, whatever. 00:07:15.329 --> 00:07:21.105 It was funny in hindsight, but I was a little irritated at the time and things like that. 00:07:21.105 --> 00:07:23.447 So anyways, like I said, I'd started the exam. 00:07:23.447 --> 00:07:30.762 I didn't have luckily I didn't have to get a catheter. 00:07:30.762 --> 00:07:32.728 So I told them I'm sitting there as they're wheeling me down from my room to the pre-op area. 00:07:32.728 --> 00:07:34.853 I'm sitting there taking a quiz as they're wheeling me around. 00:07:34.853 --> 00:07:38.901 I'm using my phone as a mobile hotspot and I got it done. 00:07:38.901 --> 00:07:43.004 I got an 80, the lowest grade I've received all you know grad school time. 00:07:43.004 --> 00:07:44.165 But I'm like I'll take it. 00:07:44.165 --> 00:07:45.086 I'll take the 80. 00:07:45.086 --> 00:07:48.728 I was under much duress at that point. 00:07:48.728 --> 00:07:50.769 So that was the day. 00:07:51.310 --> 00:07:52.130 So dedicated. 00:07:52.471 --> 00:07:52.990 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:52.990 --> 00:08:02.297 And then I got out of surgery by the time I came to and got less, I think, because after surgery they were keeping me on morphine like every three hours. 00:08:02.317 --> 00:08:03.658 They're like oh, you need more morphine. 00:08:04.459 --> 00:08:13.086 I wasn't asking they're, they're just giving you're like oh sure I had another assignment due that was due before midnight and I got that done, got an okay grade on that as well. 00:08:13.086 --> 00:08:17.661 I submitted it like 11 55 pm, so did all that. 00:08:17.661 --> 00:08:24.713 But the next that was friday, saturday in the hospital nothing, nothing to do, I waiting. 00:08:24.713 --> 00:08:25.735 You know my? 00:08:25.735 --> 00:08:30.505 They're taking my blood twice a day and they're coming in every two hours to get all my vitals. 00:08:30.505 --> 00:08:31.428 I'm like you know what? 00:08:31.428 --> 00:08:33.546 I've got this wonderful little smartwatch. 00:08:33.546 --> 00:08:37.827 It takes my blood pressure, it takes my heart rate, it takes my temperature, all the things you're getting. 00:08:37.827 --> 00:08:41.811 Why don't you just connect to my watch for me and don't have to come and bother me? 00:08:41.811 --> 00:08:46.260 But I was checking. 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:49.470 My watch was pretty damn close to the results they were getting with their equipment. 00:08:49.470 --> 00:08:52.948 It wasn't perfect, but it was probably close enough for anything else. 00:08:52.948 --> 00:08:54.908 But yeah, they did that. 00:08:54.908 --> 00:08:58.770 So Saturday, sunday, monday, in the hospital. 00:08:58.841 --> 00:09:05.349 Oh, while I was in the hospital I was on a clear liquid diet, so let me back up. 00:09:05.349 --> 00:09:08.724 Thursday morning I ate my normal breakfast, everything's hunky-dory. 00:09:08.724 --> 00:09:11.171 Midday I wasn't feeling well, so I didn't eat my lunch. 00:09:11.171 --> 00:09:12.062 I didn't eat a lunch. 00:09:12.062 --> 00:09:17.861 And then, thursday evening, they finally decided they're going to schedule me for surgery. 00:09:17.861 --> 00:09:28.024 They didn't know what time, so I wasn't allowed to eat or drink anything Thursday night and all day Friday till three o'clock and I really didn't care because my stomach was not feeling that well. 00:09:28.405 --> 00:09:46.495 But Friday late evening I got my first meal, consisting of chicken broth and yellow jello, and at the hospital they give you like a little receipt how many calories your meal is, and so that meal was like 110 calories. 00:09:46.495 --> 00:09:50.186 So since Thursday I've basically consumed 110 calories. 00:09:50.186 --> 00:10:02.924 The next three days my breakfast is a breakfast, the next three days vegetable broth, lunch chicken broth and dinner beef broth, all with yellow jello, but at dinner I did get an Italian ice. 00:10:02.924 --> 00:10:17.166 So I I was consuming like less than 600 calories a day for those six days in the hospital and and then, of course, tuesday for the second surgery, I couldn't eat anything again all day. 00:10:17.166 --> 00:10:20.275 I lost eight pounds in the hospital. 00:10:20.275 --> 00:10:23.904 I would not recommend it as a as a weight loss clinic, but I did. 00:10:23.904 --> 00:10:27.913 I have kept it off since then, but I lost eight pounds in the hospital. 00:10:28.299 --> 00:10:31.389 That's like the Dr Now diet from my 600-pound life. 00:10:31.910 --> 00:10:32.030 Oh. 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.206 That is extreme. 00:10:34.466 --> 00:10:35.931 Okay, we're up here. 00:10:35.931 --> 00:10:40.749 My wife is obsessed with all those weight loss, those shows. 00:10:40.788 --> 00:10:41.791 It's brain rot. 00:10:41.791 --> 00:10:42.793 It's brain rot. 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:44.913 The 600-pound life which I can watch. 00:10:44.913 --> 00:10:45.437 I think it's fine. 00:10:45.437 --> 00:10:50.240 I love Dr Now the way he says you're lying, you gained 15 pounds. 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:51.365 You weren't following my diet. 00:10:51.365 --> 00:10:51.847 Yes, I am. 00:10:51.847 --> 00:10:52.542 Yes, I am Okay. 00:10:52.542 --> 00:10:53.888 I love Dr Now. 00:10:53.888 --> 00:10:59.166 He just calls them out Her other favorite show, which she's actually downstairs watching it right now. 00:10:59.166 --> 00:11:04.168 Every Tuesday we record she watches the Thousand Pound Sisters. 00:11:05.208 --> 00:11:07.513 Okay, I see I haven't watched that. 00:11:08.134 --> 00:11:14.346 Oh gosh, it is human trash on parade to the extreme. 00:11:14.346 --> 00:11:16.171 Yeah, I can't stand that show. 00:11:16.171 --> 00:11:20.936 And when she's watching it and I'm in the room, she calls me a TV talker. 00:11:20.936 --> 00:11:22.537 I'm just like what the fuck? 00:11:22.537 --> 00:11:29.446 These people cannot literally be that stupid and yet they prove me wrong week in, week out. 00:11:29.446 --> 00:11:31.028 It's like how stupid can we be? 00:11:31.028 --> 00:11:33.094 And I don't have these. 00:11:33.094 --> 00:11:38.491 It's yeah, it's, it's brain rot and their brains have rotted if they had one to begin with. 00:11:38.491 --> 00:11:38.832 It is. 00:11:38.832 --> 00:11:44.791 And she watches all the all the weight loss shows or or whatever you want to call them. 00:11:44.791 --> 00:11:48.706 She's watching them all and the thousand pound roomies she just started watching. 00:11:48.706 --> 00:11:50.751 I'm like, oh my, there's a lot. 00:11:50.751 --> 00:11:54.427 There's so many of those things, but anyways, let's see. 00:11:54.447 --> 00:11:56.592 So Tuesday I had my second surgery. 00:11:56.592 --> 00:11:58.163 That went really well. 00:11:58.163 --> 00:11:59.044 It's so funny. 00:11:59.044 --> 00:12:07.299 They put me under that Twilight anesthetic and the anesthesiologist is in there and she's in there. 00:12:07.299 --> 00:12:08.605 Okay, we're gonna give you some. 00:12:08.605 --> 00:12:10.234 Really, she's, this is what she said. 00:12:10.234 --> 00:12:14.346 We're gonna give you some really good shit, man, and you're gonna have great dreams. 00:12:14.407 --> 00:12:15.629 Through this whole process. 00:12:15.629 --> 00:12:26.692 You just sit back and enjoy it and relax and enjoy the ride and I'm like I was like I've been under twilight anesthesia before, like, and she goes no, this is the good stuff, this is pro fall, pro fall or whatever. 00:12:26.692 --> 00:12:27.863 She goes, this is good. 00:12:27.863 --> 00:12:30.662 I'm like, okay, she's like. 00:12:30.662 --> 00:12:32.288 It's like she's my drug dealer. 00:12:32.288 --> 00:12:35.326 And and then all of a sudden she goes. 00:12:35.326 --> 00:12:41.145 I'm going to start in three, two, one, and then all of a sudden my arm just started burning, like I said, wow, this hurts. 00:12:41.145 --> 00:12:42.727 She goes, that's how you know it's good. 00:12:42.727 --> 00:12:47.033 And she goes in 30 seconds you're going to be in la-la land and you won't care. 00:12:47.033 --> 00:12:49.255 Nice, it was good. 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.729 During the procedure, I had wild dreams. 00:12:52.729 --> 00:12:54.562 I was okay. 00:12:54.562 --> 00:12:58.711 My wife, you know the anesthesiologist came up. 00:12:58.711 --> 00:12:59.273 How were your dreams? 00:12:59.273 --> 00:13:00.924 She's like into this. 00:13:00.924 --> 00:13:08.426 I wonder if she put a little LSD or something in my mix there, because she was into this, very passionate about her work. 00:13:08.426 --> 00:13:10.206 How was your and how are your dreams? 00:13:10.206 --> 00:13:11.283 I said, yeah, I was. 00:13:11.283 --> 00:13:17.389 I was like in a Harry Potter movie and I was riding the broomstick ramp. 00:13:17.389 --> 00:13:21.109 I wasn't playing Quidditch and I was just flying around Hogwarts on my broom. 00:13:21.109 --> 00:13:22.496 And she said that's so cool. 00:13:22.496 --> 00:13:23.501 And she goes. 00:13:23.501 --> 00:13:27.615 I told you to have good dreams and I'm like, yeah, she was into it. 00:13:27.615 --> 00:13:28.938 And my wife, who hates? 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:29.080 online. 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:36.846 Honestly, you want your anesthesiologist to be into it because they're basically, they have your life in their hands. 00:13:36.846 --> 00:13:38.432 You want them to be real into it. 00:13:39.179 --> 00:13:39.581 She was. 00:13:39.581 --> 00:13:40.642 She was hilarious. 00:13:40.642 --> 00:13:43.706 But my wife is making fun of me for having a Harry Potter dream. 00:13:43.706 --> 00:13:44.989 I'm like I don't choose what. 00:13:44.989 --> 00:13:51.183 I'm dreaming that I'm riding around a broomstick around Hogwarts and my wife says oh my God, you're such a nerd. 00:13:51.183 --> 00:13:54.251 I'm like, yeah, you've known that for 30 some odd years now. 00:13:54.251 --> 00:13:58.811 So, anyways, that's my story and that's why we didn't record two weeks ago. 00:13:58.811 --> 00:14:08.803 But hopefully we will be back on schedule and finally have the benefits episode of the office in a couple of weeks for you three weeks, yeah yeah, so. 00:14:09.546 --> 00:14:12.150 So how was your past month been since? 00:14:12.351 --> 00:14:16.360 oh my gosh I don't know it's been busy. 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:29.309 My mom was radioactive for a while so she had like some nuclear treatment and then she had to stay downstairs in our basement we have a nice basement, it's not like she was living in a basement. 00:14:29.330 --> 00:14:30.115 Lock her in a basement. 00:14:32.081 --> 00:14:36.630 But she was like down there and she lived down there for a week until she could be amongst other humans. 00:14:36.630 --> 00:14:37.874 So there's that. 00:14:37.874 --> 00:14:39.605 Other than that, I traveled for work. 00:14:39.605 --> 00:14:50.261 So my new company went to California, went there for a week, met my team in person and it was a fun time. 00:14:50.261 --> 00:14:53.246 I really feel good about this team I'm on. 00:14:53.246 --> 00:14:54.970 I'm super excited, Cool. 00:14:54.970 --> 00:14:57.495 Very warm, very welcoming. 00:14:57.495 --> 00:14:58.121 It was great. 00:14:58.905 --> 00:14:59.870 That's half the battle. 00:14:59.870 --> 00:15:05.186 When you meet the team and you get involved and you say this is a cool team, a group, I want to be involved with that. 00:15:05.186 --> 00:15:07.750 That's like half the battle right there. 00:15:07.750 --> 00:15:08.631 So yeah. 00:15:08.631 --> 00:15:09.953 Cool, cool. 00:15:09.953 --> 00:15:17.408 So we've done 15 minutes and haven't even discussed the HR, so let's dive into some HR. 00:15:17.408 --> 00:15:19.293 Oh my gosh, so great. 00:15:19.293 --> 00:15:23.145 And this comes to us from Jamie, from HR best besties. 00:15:23.145 --> 00:15:31.785 She posted this to instagram about the the more drama sherm is having about their annual conference. 00:15:31.846 --> 00:15:50.139 So let's rewind a year ago, to 2024, when jason sudeikis was supposed to be the keynote speaker ah, yes and he backed out at the 11th hour so he could watch Caitlin Clark play a game and things like that. 00:15:50.139 --> 00:16:01.445 So they got Al Roker to fill in at the last minute, which I thought was funny, interesting, but they got Al Roker to fill in and he is a funny person. 00:16:01.485 --> 00:16:04.369 Your future is so bright You're going to need stage. 00:16:05.389 --> 00:16:09.014 Well, let's now fast forward to 2025. 00:16:09.014 --> 00:16:20.450 Back in May, they announced that the keynote speaker was going to be Bradley Cooper and, yeah, it seems pretty good. 00:16:20.450 --> 00:16:22.553 Well, all of a sudden, he had a scheduling conflict. 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:24.964 Oh man. 00:16:25.264 --> 00:16:27.932 And on top of that, who's replacing him? 00:16:27.932 --> 00:16:31.039 Jason Sudeikis is coming back. 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:33.589 Oh, it's full circle, it's full circle. 00:16:33.589 --> 00:16:37.211 And then the announcement sure made was yep, we're trying this again. 00:16:37.231 --> 00:16:38.998 That is too funny. 00:16:39.298 --> 00:16:41.869 Yeah, I'm like, why would you want? 00:16:41.869 --> 00:16:56.282 Unless they got like bargain basement pricing for him, why would you want him back after just oh yeah, yeah, your conference I committed to I'd rather go see a basketball game when I'm a multimillionaire. 00:16:56.282 --> 00:17:02.230 I can fly to whatever city Caitlin Clark is in at any given time and watch as many basketball games as I want. 00:17:02.471 --> 00:17:13.050 Well, remember, I had a theory that it was his silent protest of all the stuff that Sherm was announcing with equity, diversity and inclusion. 00:17:13.050 --> 00:17:18.229 I thought because I need everything to have a plot. 00:17:18.229 --> 00:17:26.551 I thought maybe he got a whisper of it and backed out to go watch Caitlin play a WNBA player. 00:17:26.551 --> 00:17:29.501 That's my conspiracy theory. 00:17:30.726 --> 00:17:36.963 And it makes sense because Sherm at that time was just stepping in it left, right, up and down, supposedly. 00:17:36.963 --> 00:17:47.727 Like I said, when I saw JCT speaking at the Virginia Sherm conference, he was very direct and open and talking about it and he said my people tell me not to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it anyway. 00:17:47.727 --> 00:17:51.963 I don't know, but anyways it was the plan. 00:17:51.963 --> 00:17:57.311 And removing the equity yeah, the equity. 00:17:57.311 --> 00:17:59.715 I can't remember what they removed now. 00:17:59.715 --> 00:18:02.203 They removed one of the letters. 00:18:02.203 --> 00:18:03.308 Maybe I should have done some more homework. 00:18:03.328 --> 00:18:03.971 They removed one of the letters. 00:18:03.971 --> 00:18:05.519 Maybe I should have done some more homework, they should. 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:11.980 They removed one of the letters I think it was equity from dei and therefore caused a shit show. 00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:18.243 But jct says they were ahead of the curve and they saw the writing on the wall, given some court things and stuff like that. 00:18:18.243 --> 00:18:25.926 So if you want to give them a bit of it up, maybe they were ahead of the curve, maybe they weren't, maybe they were just shaking things up and things fell in the right places. 00:18:25.926 --> 00:18:28.912 I do not know yeah anyways. 00:18:29.011 --> 00:18:35.721 Yeah, sherm and if you have, if you aren't already listened to hr besties is they're going to be covering the sherm trials in colorado. 00:18:35.721 --> 00:18:40.441 All three of them are going to be there and in the courtroom listening to the the trials. 00:18:40.441 --> 00:18:43.387 So that's going to be pretty interesting to follow. 00:18:43.387 --> 00:18:46.722 More drama, drama, drama around SHRM. 00:18:46.722 --> 00:18:51.771 So, yeah, let's see what's the under over, I wonder, to Vegas. 00:18:51.771 --> 00:18:53.480 It's in Vegas again, isn't it? 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:57.788 No it's in Vegas or San Diego, where is it? 00:18:58.869 --> 00:18:59.612 Oh, it's San Diego. 00:18:59.612 --> 00:19:01.255 I think it's 50-50. 00:19:01.255 --> 00:19:08.260 Everything is either in Vegas or or san diego or new orleans yeah, so they're gonna be in san diego. 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:12.569 So what's the, what's the under over for jason sudeikis showing up is? 00:19:12.569 --> 00:19:22.663 He'll show up this time yeah, I, I think you can't not show up after ditching us the last time it was or ditching, sure, not that ditching us is. 00:19:22.663 --> 00:19:23.285 I'm not going. 00:19:23.285 --> 00:19:24.910 I'm going to hit the register now. 00:19:24.910 --> 00:19:27.688 How much is this, this shit show, to attend? 00:19:27.688 --> 00:19:29.593 Let's see here's why. 00:19:29.633 --> 00:19:44.285 To attend in person oh, showing all these people with their swag bags you know what I always appreciate about these conferences that close to the registration page they will have a basically building a business case for your boss to let you go. 00:19:44.285 --> 00:19:45.750 Yes, I'm actually just clicked on that for your boss to let you go. 00:19:45.770 --> 00:19:46.756 Yes, I actually just clicked on that. 00:19:46.756 --> 00:19:50.551 Convince your boss to make a case for attending SHRM 2025. 00:19:50.819 --> 00:19:56.946 And I got to say honestly no notes Perfect, like that's the barrier that people have. 00:19:56.946 --> 00:19:59.910 So help them get over the barrier. 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:02.446 Yeah, it's just so. 00:20:02.446 --> 00:20:03.865 Oh, here's the rates page. 00:20:11.681 --> 00:20:11.981 Ooh can I guess? 00:20:11.981 --> 00:20:12.765 Okay, member pricing, standard prices. 00:20:12.765 --> 00:20:20.949 Okay, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess standard pricing and I'm gonna guess standard pricing is gonna be 1300 oh no, you're. 00:20:21.068 --> 00:20:23.792 You're low, higher, higher, higher higher. 00:20:24.153 --> 00:20:27.846 Higher oh my gosh, is it 17? 00:20:28.780 --> 00:20:29.726 Higher, higher higher. 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:34.028 Oh my gosh, Is it breaking two? 00:20:34.028 --> 00:20:34.971 Is it two grand? 00:20:34.971 --> 00:20:36.806 Higher, higher, higher. 00:20:36.806 --> 00:20:39.660 Get the fuck out of here For a SHRM conference. 00:20:39.660 --> 00:20:41.007 Oh my gosh, 2,500? 00:20:41.007 --> 00:20:41.826 Higher, higher, higher. 00:20:41.834 --> 00:20:45.499 No, oh my gosh 2,500? 00:20:45.499 --> 00:20:45.499 . 00:20:45.499 --> 00:20:46.000 Higher, higher, higher. 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:51.751 No 28.45 is the standard price. 00:20:51.751 --> 00:20:57.746 Now, the early bird special was 22.95, but they're sold out of the early bird. 00:20:58.007 --> 00:21:00.923 Okay so, but if you want to turn that's so cost prohibitive. 00:21:00.923 --> 00:21:01.767 That's crazy. 00:21:02.339 --> 00:21:03.323 Well, virtual. 00:21:03.323 --> 00:21:08.604 You want to take a shot at how much the standard price of a virtual is oh, what is it knocking? 00:21:08.644 --> 00:21:12.230 like $200 off of it exactly $200. 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:17.182 So, okay, you're spinning. 00:21:17.182 --> 00:21:19.164 Let's just be real about it. 00:21:19.164 --> 00:21:36.117 You're spending $3,000 to attend, probably spending so bare minimum 500, unless you're in the San Diego area probably bare minimum 500 for airfare and then hotel for so many nights that's got to be over a thousand. 00:21:36.117 --> 00:21:46.720 So you're you're $4,000 in very quickly and I have a hell of a lot I would rather do with $4,000 than go to Sherm. 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:48.723 Yeah, you know it's funny. 00:21:48.723 --> 00:22:11.013 I was while I was in California and my like the team, we were like talking, and the one of our team members went to PSYOP, which is the society for industrial organizational psychology, and she went to that and that was freaking beneficial when she came back with a whole bunch of stuff about what's going on in the industry, stuff like that. 00:22:11.013 --> 00:22:13.720 And, yeah, like I would love. 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:20.661 I would love to give psyop a try, because I know like I feel like sherm is just a. 00:22:20.661 --> 00:22:24.730 It's just like we've discussed it before. 00:22:24.730 --> 00:22:30.405 We don't need to beat a dead horse about it, but it's just like they don't provide that much insight for what they offer. 00:22:30.405 --> 00:22:41.332 And then I always feel like I'm being sold at and I think with psyop it's more like science, it's more scientific and it's more data driven and stuff like that. 00:22:41.332 --> 00:22:55.500 So I think it's going to be less touchy-feely, less fluffy and more hard-hitting data, hard-hitting science, and I would love to give PSYOP a try. 00:22:57.512 --> 00:22:59.500 And I forgot I did see this as well. 00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:04.102 Other keynote speakers are going to be Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsley from the office. 00:23:04.509 --> 00:23:07.519 Oh my God, I would love to go just for that actually. 00:23:19.971 --> 00:23:21.012 I take everything back. 00:23:21.012 --> 00:23:22.954 Sure, I'm going to throw out some free tickets. 00:23:22.954 --> 00:23:24.837 I would love to go meet them. 00:23:24.837 --> 00:23:26.720 Thank you, you're the best. 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:36.862 You're the best of the day of the seminar, and last year I started to go down the rabbit hole and try and classify them as touchy, feely or substantive. 00:23:37.182 --> 00:23:38.530 And I didn't get that far. 00:23:39.211 --> 00:23:43.200 Yeah, there's just too many to look at them all. 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:47.353 But yeah, I, just this person, owner of this, feels right. 00:23:47.353 --> 00:23:52.564 That seems like that could be a sexual harassment case waiting to happen with it. 00:23:52.564 --> 00:23:56.580 Oh, this person, professional speaker at her name, speaks in there. 00:23:56.580 --> 00:24:00.097 I just love some of these people that. 00:24:00.097 --> 00:24:05.375 Anyways, it'll be interesting If they put one in my backyard, even at $3,000,. 00:24:05.375 --> 00:24:07.759 I don't think I'd go at $3,000. 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:23.862 I, I don't think I may and I don't think I'd go at $3,000, even if it was in you know my town and I didn't have to commute or get a hotel or anything like that, I was like, nah, just don't, you could get like you know what for that much money you can get like three nights at a really decent resort. 00:24:33.009 --> 00:24:34.232 Oh I, I tell you what my wife and I, next month, are going to. 00:24:34.232 --> 00:24:34.834 We're going to Costa Rica. 00:24:34.834 --> 00:24:35.375 We're going for eight days. 00:24:35.375 --> 00:24:43.575 We're staying in an all-inclusive resort, airfare hotel and everything, our excursions. 00:24:43.575 --> 00:24:52.375 We haven't even hit $5,000 yet and that's two of us going for eight days out of country and we're doing something we want to do. 00:24:52.375 --> 00:24:54.220 So there you go. 00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:56.259 Our budget is not. 00:24:56.259 --> 00:24:57.010 Actually. 00:24:57.010 --> 00:24:58.878 Our budget was $5,000. 00:24:59.731 --> 00:25:03.017 We're below that, including our excursions and things like that. 00:25:04.513 --> 00:25:16.614 So new conference idea I'm going to call it free range conferencing and you get a couple really good audio books and a couple really good podcasts and you just go to a resort for a week. 00:25:16.614 --> 00:25:16.974 Yes, yes. 00:25:16.974 --> 00:25:21.678 I'm not listening to anything in HR. 00:25:21.678 --> 00:25:23.634 Welcome to our little sex zone. 00:25:24.309 --> 00:25:27.038 Well, that's the business case to get your company to pay for it. 00:25:27.038 --> 00:25:28.834 So you have to do some work. 00:25:29.536 --> 00:25:35.836 Yeah, oh, gosh, rearrange conferencing, that could catch on. 00:25:37.272 --> 00:25:39.598 I'm going to trademark that one quick, I know right. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:40.842 Oh boy. 00:25:40.842 --> 00:25:41.771 So anyways, that's. 00:25:41.771 --> 00:25:42.413 Yeah, that's. 00:25:42.413 --> 00:25:52.535 I do recognize some of the names of presenters here the Sherm but yeah, I just couldn't do that. 00:25:52.535 --> 00:26:02.575 But I bet you, of these 300 sessions that they're having or whatever I could, probably hopefully I'd be able to fill up my schedule with just substantive things. 00:26:02.575 --> 00:26:04.914 I would hope I would hope so. 00:26:04.914 --> 00:26:09.659 Anyways, if you attend, have fun, give us some feedback what you're doing, when is it? 00:26:09.659 --> 00:26:13.335 It's usually like I don't even know. 00:26:13.335 --> 00:26:17.318 So you had something to cover before we moved to another. 00:26:17.318 --> 00:26:18.321 Yeah, yeah. 00:26:20.290 --> 00:26:31.683 So there's an article that was released today by work life, which is just an online magazine, because paper magazines are dead, anyway. 00:26:31.683 --> 00:26:40.612 So basically they're talking about Gen Zs and how Gen Z employees are opting out of those middle management positions. 00:26:40.612 --> 00:26:48.861 So your managers, your senior managers and they're doing it out of work-life balance but having like a values-driven life. 00:26:48.861 --> 00:26:52.140 So a lot of them are just rejecting those leadership roles. 00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:58.509 So the article then went on to basically talk about how this comes to fruition. 00:26:58.509 --> 00:27:09.281 And you have a lot of people who just want to be in that specialist zone and just really focus their career on becoming more of a subject matter expert. 00:27:09.281 --> 00:27:24.859 How the organization should basically plan for that to happen, because you'll have kind of a small, like a subset I don't want to say small, but you know you have like a subset of individuals who may not even be interested in leadership roles. 00:27:26.525 --> 00:27:27.607 Yeah, I've heard that. 00:27:27.607 --> 00:27:31.935 I've heard it more about work-life balance and not wanting responsibilities and things like that. 00:27:31.935 --> 00:27:39.980 But I think what's concerning about that is, right now, the boomers they're almost all retired out of the workplace. 00:27:39.980 --> 00:27:49.481 We have a few, but not many, left in our workplace, but they're retiring and it's good for them. 00:27:49.962 --> 00:27:51.852 And then you've got the Xers, the me's, out there. 00:27:51.852 --> 00:28:00.317 I'm looking very desperately forward to, and remember, generation X is the smallest of all these generations, we're just the smallest. 00:28:00.317 --> 00:28:06.160 So there's not many of us, to begin with, that are in those leadership, to be in those leadership roles. 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.792 And I know some people that are Xers that are starting to retire already. 00:28:10.792 --> 00:28:15.151 I'm severely jealous, but they're in that point in their life where they can do that. 00:28:15.151 --> 00:28:18.017 I'll be working until I'm 67 and a half or whatever it is. 00:28:18.417 --> 00:28:44.957 But yeah, I think that we need people to be able to step up because leadership and that's where maybe some leadership development and training and once again going back to maybe identifying hypos in your organization Maybe you have what it takes to be a good leader, you're very well organized, you're charismatic, you can follow through and things like that Maybe you could be a leader and start developing that talent. 00:28:44.957 --> 00:28:51.602 Because I've heard those things that, oh, I'd rather not be in management so I can have my work-life balance. 00:28:51.602 --> 00:28:56.336 Or maybe they're like I said, they're looking for values-based organizations and things like that. 00:28:56.336 --> 00:28:59.741 It's just scary. 00:28:59.741 --> 00:29:03.015 But I mean, well, everything will over, adapt and overcome. 00:29:03.075 --> 00:29:04.498 But wow yeah. 00:29:04.498 --> 00:29:09.195 So here's what they said that here's some considerations and a couple of them I think are pretty good. 00:29:09.195 --> 00:29:12.082 So it basically says to rethink career progression. 00:29:12.082 --> 00:29:16.683 So don't force everyone who is a top performer into managing others. 00:29:17.346 --> 00:29:18.852 Build dual career paths Awesome. 00:29:18.852 --> 00:29:20.176 I can't agree with that more. 00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:22.977 A hundred and 27%. 00:29:22.977 --> 00:29:28.496 Yeah, so, and that was the one thing that, at a previous organization, we focused on. 00:29:28.496 --> 00:29:46.752 It's okay if you don't want to be a manager, and here's how you can grow your career, and we called it like the SME path, so like, if you want to be like a subject matter expert within the company, then here's ways that you can develop and we encourage that, because you can't have not everyone can be a leader. 00:29:46.752 --> 00:29:47.936 So there's that. 00:29:47.936 --> 00:29:50.491 And then they also said redesign development. 00:29:50.491 --> 00:30:05.074 So this is what I thought was interesting Instead of focusing in on the leader as a position or as a role or as a title, encourage project-based leadership, so not just formal hierarchies. 00:30:05.074 --> 00:30:14.974 So put people in charge of projects and make them that leader of the project, instead of having them have the title. 00:30:16.156 --> 00:30:21.464 Yeah, and it is so I don't know what the right word is. 00:30:21.464 --> 00:30:26.478 Important not to force people into leadership positions. 00:30:26.478 --> 00:30:29.703 We're doing the office thing. 00:30:29.703 --> 00:30:33.380 Michael Scott was a great individual contributor. 00:30:33.380 --> 00:30:35.732 He was so good. 00:30:35.732 --> 00:30:39.021 They promote him to manager where he sucks, he sucks. 00:30:42.435 --> 00:30:51.816 That happens so often that it's almost a joke now that, oh you know, this person is such a great individual contributor we need to make them a manager. 00:30:51.816 --> 00:30:52.999 And they can't do it. 00:30:52.999 --> 00:30:57.442 Well, you might have that mediocre performer, but they have the innate leadership skills. 00:30:57.442 --> 00:31:03.381 And I do think leadership is, you know, like they say in sports you can't teach speed. 00:31:03.381 --> 00:31:11.301 I think you can develop and enhance people's abilities, but if you don't have it to start with, you don't have it. 00:31:11.301 --> 00:31:41.830 And so those people that maybe they have great organizational skills, planning skills, start developing those people that maybe they could be struggling as an individual contributor because they're more big picture and they get, they feel they get weeded down by the minute details of an individual contributor has to do and yeah, businesses and hr have forced that for so long and I think that's probably one of the biggest things that need to change. 00:31:41.911 --> 00:31:46.442 And as much as everybody talks about it, it's still happening rampantly. 00:31:46.442 --> 00:31:50.971 And then again there's people who want to be promoted into leadership roles. 00:31:50.971 --> 00:31:53.096 That can't handle it. 00:31:53.096 --> 00:32:07.037 I worked somewhere we had someone been a long-time employee, great individual contributor, did some little minor leading on things and so they decided they were going to give him a shot as a leader when he had to lead a team. 00:32:07.037 --> 00:32:12.337 Oh my gosh, it was a dumpster fire from the word go and I like the person. 00:32:12.337 --> 00:32:13.555 I felt bad for them. 00:32:13.555 --> 00:32:21.557