WEBVTT 00:00:02.023 --> 00:00:09.814 Had you actually read the email, you would know that the podcast you are about to listen to could contain explicit language and offensive content. 00:00:09.814 --> 00:00:16.480 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, present or future employers. 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:19.707 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 00:00:19.707 --> 00:00:26.548 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write up my employee for crying too much? 00:00:26.548 --> 00:00:28.900 Welcome to our little safe zone. 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:31.862 Welcome to Jaded HR. 00:00:48.652 --> 00:00:55.997 Welcome to Jaded HR, the podcast by two HR professionals who want to help you get through your workday by saying everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 00:00:57.741 --> 00:00:59.125 My name's Warren. 00:00:59.125 --> 00:00:59.567 I'm Cece. 00:01:00.899 --> 00:01:01.100 All right. 00:01:01.100 --> 00:01:06.763 So we took a week off and 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00:01:55.891 --> 00:01:58.548 But if you have something else, I'll try and find it there too. 00:01:58.548 --> 00:02:00.334 So I know good pods. 00:02:00.334 --> 00:02:02.200 We have a couple of pod friends. 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.906 There's a review on there and things but. 00:02:04.906 --> 00:02:07.873 But of course the world revolves around Apple. 00:02:09.122 --> 00:02:09.824 Yes, it does. 00:02:11.040 --> 00:02:12.326 So I was on vacation. 00:02:12.539 --> 00:02:14.146 I'm playing my Apple watch on the screen. 00:02:16.241 --> 00:02:19.651 Yeah, I've only had one Apple product in my life. 00:02:19.651 --> 00:02:26.330 But yeah, we took the week off as I was on vacation and I went to Costa Rica and had just an incredible time. 00:02:26.330 --> 00:02:29.586 Everything was so great, Everything was nearly perfect. 00:02:29.586 --> 00:02:36.768 I got a couple of stories, I think, out of it from people watching, essentially, and I really couldn't ask for anything better. 00:02:36.768 --> 00:02:44.781 It all went perfectly the activities, the weather, the excursions, the people we met, everything it was just. 00:02:44.781 --> 00:02:46.929 It was all perfect. 00:02:46.929 --> 00:02:52.091 I would have liked to see more wildlife, but you can't really pick and choose when animals appear. 00:02:52.091 --> 00:03:01.266 We did get to see everybody wants to see a sloth when you go to Costa Rica and we got to see more than our share of sloths and for me, I like snakes. 00:03:01.266 --> 00:03:12.247 So I got to see the most venomous snake in Costa Rica and I forget its name, but I guess it's a relative of a rattlesnake, and we saw it from the safety of our van. 00:03:12.247 --> 00:03:14.481 How? 00:03:14.502 --> 00:03:14.965 venomous. 00:03:14.965 --> 00:03:15.728 Are we talking? 00:03:16.330 --> 00:03:16.532 Huh. 00:03:17.381 --> 00:03:18.725 How venomous are we talking? 00:03:18.826 --> 00:03:19.408 I don't know. 00:03:19.408 --> 00:03:28.306 But the other venomous snake we saw was called eyelash viper and if you check those out online they're really cool looking and they're not that big. 00:03:28.306 --> 00:03:29.806 They're like a foot or two long. 00:03:29.806 --> 00:03:34.632 But we were getting this close to it and it didn't care. 00:03:34.632 --> 00:03:38.758 It really just it was chill, it didn't care, got some good pictures of that. 00:03:38.758 --> 00:03:44.925 I only got to do the red-eyed green tree frog I forget what its name is the green tree frog-eyed green tree frog. 00:03:44.944 --> 00:03:53.705 I forget what its name is, the green tree frog, I think, but I wanted to see other frogs, like the poison dart frog, the blue jean frog, and I made a list of all these animals I I was hoping to see. 00:03:53.705 --> 00:03:54.848 We saw monkeys. 00:03:54.848 --> 00:03:59.284 We saw howler monkeys and the white face monkeys and and crocodiles. 00:03:59.284 --> 00:04:01.409 We saw crocodiles and things like that. 00:04:01.409 --> 00:04:03.580 So it was, the wildlife was really good. 00:04:03.580 --> 00:04:04.723 I didn't see a toucan. 00:04:04.723 --> 00:04:05.985 I wanted to to see a toucan. 00:04:05.985 --> 00:04:09.592 We saw all sorts of other birds, but nothing really. 00:04:09.592 --> 00:04:17.812 You know, no Froot Loops or anything like that. 00:04:17.812 --> 00:04:20.017 That's awesome, though, like. 00:04:20.057 --> 00:04:22.603 I'm so jealous hearing about this experience. 00:04:22.663 --> 00:04:22.884 It was. 00:04:22.884 --> 00:04:23.726 It was great. 00:04:23.726 --> 00:04:25.711 I can't wait to go on our next vacation. 00:04:25.711 --> 00:04:29.588 My wife and I are already starting to think about where we're going next year. 00:04:29.588 --> 00:04:30.630 So cool. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:38.107 And for those of you who are like me, speak very, very little Spanish, it is so American friendly. 00:04:38.107 --> 00:04:46.990 I had one person I interacted with who spoke the amount of English that I speak Spanish, and we were able to get my Uber driver one day. 00:04:46.990 --> 00:04:52.091 He didn't speak much English, I didn't speak much Spanish, but we got through and I got. 00:04:52.091 --> 00:04:55.906 We actually were able to converse at a very minimal level, but it was. 00:04:55.906 --> 00:04:56.589 It worked. 00:04:56.589 --> 00:05:06.860 So, if you're like me, costa Rica is a very native English speaker friendly area to go to, and even not in, as we were on a resort and we went to a tourist town. 00:05:06.860 --> 00:05:08.023 But also we went to. 00:05:08.023 --> 00:05:23.182 My wife and I went to a town called philadelphia, which spelled with f, not a ph, and it is not a touristy town, and still people there spoke beautiful english and things like that, and everybody was so nice it was. 00:05:23.182 --> 00:05:28.050 It was a great experience I love that so how about you? 00:05:28.170 --> 00:05:30.774 what did, what did you have for the last week? 00:05:32.103 --> 00:05:33.225 nothing crazy. 00:05:33.225 --> 00:05:40.884 I mean, I was kind of in the I was trying to get this project over the finish line, which I think I did. 00:05:40.884 --> 00:05:42.968 It's tomorrow, so I think I did. 00:05:42.968 --> 00:05:54.463 Anyway, I'm doing an internal podcast, so for, like one of our learning initiatives, we're doing a podcast, so did that, and the first episode airs tomorrow. 00:05:54.463 --> 00:05:57.569 So the past, like week, has just been very work focused. 00:05:57.569 --> 00:06:06.153 And then we had a friend fly in though from Florida and he came like stayed with us and we like went to the pool and it was just fun. 00:06:06.153 --> 00:06:09.127 I want the baby, you know low key. 00:06:09.908 --> 00:06:11.973 Nice, I really want a low key. 00:06:11.973 --> 00:06:14.600 I've just been so busy this whole summer. 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:22.642 Every weekend I've had something going on and up and through, like the third week of August, the third weekend of August. 00:06:22.642 --> 00:06:24.127 It's hard to believe it's almost August. 00:06:24.127 --> 00:06:26.853 I will launch this on Thursday. 00:06:26.853 --> 00:06:30.603 Most of you probably listened to it on Thursday or Friday and that's August 1st. 00:06:30.603 --> 00:06:35.360 Crazy, the year is poof going by? 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:44.752 I'm really not happy about it Next thing, you know, we'll be talking about how instead of how hot it is, how cold it is and the snow and that sort of stuff again. 00:06:44.752 --> 00:07:07.605 So I'm sort of stressing about the holidays like, oh my god I did see a countdown to to christmas already on one of the social media sites, but I had to go to home depot the other day and they've got their halloween stuff already all out at Home Depot and HomeGoods has it out too. 00:07:07.605 --> 00:07:09.706 I'm like, really I don't like that. 00:07:09.706 --> 00:07:11.689 It's July and you're doing Halloween. 00:07:12.509 --> 00:07:17.074 Yeah, we went to the liquor store the other day and they had pumpkin beer out already. 00:07:17.074 --> 00:07:19.935 I'm like it's July, yeah. 00:07:21.779 --> 00:07:22.880 Slow down. 00:07:22.880 --> 00:07:25.403 Yeah, that's one thing. 00:07:25.403 --> 00:07:34.451 I drink local beers in Costa Rica, the Imperial one as the big name brand. 00:07:34.451 --> 00:07:35.732 It's pretty good. 00:07:35.732 --> 00:07:43.480 I couldn't distinguish it from that and say I don't even know what type it was supposed to be, if it was a lager or not, I think it was. 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:52.281 Then they had a brand named pilsner which was like five, five, no, five percent alcohol and it was that was actually my favorite beer. 00:07:52.300 --> 00:07:57.117 Then on one of my the tour guides, we were talking about drinks and stuff like that. 00:07:57.117 --> 00:08:18.103 So we're on the excursion and you have a driver and there's only like 10 people in the van, a driver, the tour guide and we're talking about drinks, and he just pulls over, has us go to this convenience store in the middle of nowhere seemingly, and he's talking about different drinks and I went in. 00:08:18.103 --> 00:08:21.110 I got a Cuba Libre, which is a canned rum and Coke. 00:08:21.110 --> 00:08:24.026 It wasn't that good. 00:08:24.026 --> 00:08:31.269 It wasn't Coke, it was a cola, it was like it was your generic cola versus a coke and I don't know I didn't care for it. 00:08:31.269 --> 00:08:37.289 It was only eight percent, so it it left more of a bite than most eight percent drinks. 00:08:37.289 --> 00:08:43.086 I think would leave a bite, but it was good and, like someone else got this cucumber or sprit which they just loved. 00:08:43.106 --> 00:08:47.254 They said they're going to take a 12-pack back to America with them. 00:08:47.254 --> 00:09:12.024 So yeah, that was a little fun little side adventure that we did so well, the one thing that, because we didn't record, we missed out on being sort of on top of the story was the Coldplay Kiss Cam, and I saw the article like I forget the day after it happened and I sent you the link immediately and said we've got to talk about this. 00:09:12.024 --> 00:09:17.493 But then I had no idea it was going to blow up the way it did. 00:09:17.493 --> 00:09:29.533 And I will tell you also in Costa Rica, like my Spanish is very, very poor, I'm like a pre-kindergarten vocabulary level or something like that. 00:09:30.682 --> 00:09:44.610 But I'm sitting there waiting in line for the restaurant and someone beside me is on one of the social media networks and they're seeing the thing about the Kiss Cam and they're talking about it in Spanish and things like that. 00:09:44.610 --> 00:09:53.052 I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like got worldwide appeal on that's awesome this cam and it, yeah. 00:09:53.052 --> 00:09:56.325 So what I? 00:09:56.325 --> 00:10:05.312 I don't want to cut, I halfway, don't want to cover it too much because it's it's been, it's been covered, it's been covered, it's been covered, it's been covered, it's been covered. 00:10:07.261 --> 00:10:19.392 I just want to say like I feel bad for the families and this was very entertaining. 00:10:19.392 --> 00:10:21.446 Both things can be true. 00:10:22.369 --> 00:10:22.629 Yes. 00:10:23.620 --> 00:10:26.861 But I was just so. 00:10:26.861 --> 00:10:34.952 It took me a couple days Because I'm like ha ha, like the CEO and the CHRO are like messing around. 00:10:34.952 --> 00:10:41.009 And now they got busted in the most ridiculous way and oh, Chris Martin even called it out. 00:10:41.220 --> 00:10:42.485 I thought that was hilarious. 00:10:44.081 --> 00:10:45.089 Like all these things. 00:10:45.089 --> 00:10:48.924 It took me a solid couple days and I'm embarrassed to admit this. 00:10:48.924 --> 00:10:54.083 It was like all of a sudden I like popped out of bed in a cold sweat or something and I was. 00:10:54.083 --> 00:10:59.573 I just said, oh my god, the power dynamic it's, it's her boss. 00:10:59.573 --> 00:11:03.765 And then from there on out, I was like that makes it even more layered. 00:11:04.587 --> 00:11:06.711 If they just gave each other a little peck? 00:11:06.711 --> 00:11:09.274 No, the world would never know. 00:11:09.274 --> 00:11:12.027 Their spouses would never know. 00:11:12.027 --> 00:11:14.442 No, whatever happened. 00:11:14.442 --> 00:11:17.250 I don't know where the concert was Was it in Vegas? 00:11:17.250 --> 00:11:21.238 Whatever happened at the Coldplay concert would have stayed at the Coldplay concert. 00:11:21.238 --> 00:11:23.729 Right, it was their reaction. 00:11:23.729 --> 00:11:28.505 It's not like they're putting it on cnn at that point. 00:11:28.505 --> 00:11:43.966 It probably made its way onto cnn at some point and actually I read that the man, what is his name, andy byron, is now contemplating suing coldplay over to kiss cam and he might actually have some legal ground. 00:11:44.067 --> 00:11:46.201 I'm like dude, you got busted. 00:11:46.201 --> 00:11:50.528 It's not cold place fault so reddit went deep. 00:11:50.649 --> 00:12:09.746 Apparently I don't know if he has a case, I think he's just talking big, but apparently, like in fine print, there's an agreement that by attending the concert, like you're forgo, like you're giving them the permissions to like, record and use commercially and yada, yada. 00:12:09.746 --> 00:12:13.861 So yeah, I don't think there's not, there's not a lawsuit there at all. 00:12:14.022 --> 00:12:28.006 Like, dude, you got caught, you got caught, just take the l and slink away and the thing is he's not gonna be able to get another job and, honestly, neither is she and I. 00:12:28.006 --> 00:12:37.110 I saw something on social media and it might have been from something like a tmz or something like that, but she was spotted the other day not wearing her wedding ring. 00:12:37.110 --> 00:12:42.427 So, yeah, so yeah yeah, it's, that's just. 00:12:43.128 --> 00:12:44.249 But was their reaction? 00:12:44.249 --> 00:12:55.865 But the power dynamic you mentioned of the two people in a company that should know better is the, the director of HR, the chief people officer and the CEO. 00:12:55.865 --> 00:12:58.650 You, you have to, you have to. 00:12:58.650 --> 00:13:06.591 You know, of all the people, those are the two that should not be having this issue with. 00:13:06.591 --> 00:13:15.653 So, yeah, that was interesting and they're getting roasted every which way on every social media site, everything like that. 00:13:15.653 --> 00:13:18.144 But I got this from? 00:13:18.144 --> 00:13:21.873 Was it Yahoo News? 00:13:21.873 --> 00:13:22.541 I didn't get the. 00:13:22.541 --> 00:13:23.883 I didn't take the. 00:13:23.883 --> 00:13:30.754 Usually I like to give credit to it, but it says Cabot, his HR chief, joined the company only months ago. 00:13:30.754 --> 00:13:32.643 So this is a. 00:13:32.643 --> 00:13:36.152 You know, somebody moved very quickly in this. 00:13:37.100 --> 00:13:38.486 Or it's been happening before. 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:42.341 Or maybe he brought her in, Maybe they had a prior thing going on. 00:13:42.341 --> 00:13:52.306 Maybe they had a prior thing going on, but her LinkedIn profile she describes herself as someone who, quote wins the trust of employees of all levels, from the CEO to managers and assistants. 00:13:52.985 --> 00:13:54.105 Winning trust, all right. 00:13:54.966 --> 00:14:10.312 And you know, like I said, I do feel for the families, but all the ridicule that happens here is only going to get their spouses more money in the divorce. 00:14:10.312 --> 00:14:13.955 You know the humiliation factor and whatever. 00:14:13.955 --> 00:14:17.275 Yeah, it's going to be interesting. 00:14:17.275 --> 00:14:18.456 Now I saw something. 00:14:18.456 --> 00:14:23.519 Now Gwyneth Paltrow is now a spokesperson for the company, or something like that. 00:14:23.599 --> 00:14:26.240 I'm like so they hired her, I think they hired her. 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:27.705 I'm like, so they, they hired her, I think they hired her. 00:14:27.705 --> 00:14:29.379 I'm afraid to say anything. 00:14:29.379 --> 00:14:31.710 Is anything real or is it all AI anymore? 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:35.705 But I did see the video and it was it's her. 00:14:35.705 --> 00:14:47.245 And she just starts explaining like oh, we're so glad that you're interested in this company and just has spikes and she kind of talks very tongue in cheek and cute about it. 00:14:47.245 --> 00:14:52.527 But it's just funny that it's her with the Chris Martin connection. 00:14:53.635 --> 00:14:55.403 Oh, does she have a Chris Martin connection? 00:14:56.655 --> 00:14:57.419 They used to be married. 00:14:57.615 --> 00:14:58.085 Oh, okay, see, I never. 00:14:58.085 --> 00:14:58.594 I'm not good at any of that stuff, so that's funny. 00:14:58.594 --> 00:14:59.149 Oh, and does she have a chris martin connection? 00:14:59.149 --> 00:14:59.355 They used to be married. 00:14:59.355 --> 00:14:59.561 Oh, okay, see, I never. 00:14:59.561 --> 00:15:10.889 I'm not good at any of that stuff, so that's funny yeah yeah, and with paltrow she's a whole another type of special of her own in her you know what I'm saying? 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:16.143 I think it's, I think it's layered, because they were married and I think ch Martin cheated on her. 00:15:16.464 --> 00:15:17.004 Oh really. 00:15:26.595 --> 00:15:28.256 So I think, that is like the real punchline in that PR thing. 00:15:28.256 --> 00:15:36.230 I've seen all the memes that are actually quite funny that you know Coldplay hasn't made a single in 20 years and they made two in one night. 00:15:36.230 --> 00:15:41.422 Oh my gosh, yeah hasn't made a single in 20 years and they made two in one night and things like that it was. 00:15:41.422 --> 00:15:43.187 Some of the memes were just either brutal or hilarious. 00:15:43.187 --> 00:16:01.645 And also when I was in costa rica, our tour guide, his facebook page, he took someone, made it the, the man holding a sloth, and then it said underneath reminder don't get uh, don't get caught touching the animals is apparently you can get fined or things like that. 00:16:01.645 --> 00:16:15.222 Before, but I it just seemed that people putting that everywhere on everything and then you know, mimicking the, the faces, putting in other people's faces, and they're like dwight and angela. 00:16:15.222 --> 00:16:16.946 I saw one that was Dwight and Angela. 00:16:17.067 --> 00:16:17.486 So good. 00:16:17.847 --> 00:16:18.509 And things like that. 00:16:18.509 --> 00:16:26.485 So it's yeah, this is going to live on for a little while until the next big thing sort of takes it off the front. 00:16:26.615 --> 00:16:28.802 Honestly, it's kind of starting to cool down. 00:16:28.802 --> 00:16:35.186 I'm just nosy about what's happening next, but I think they're all slithering into the abyss. 00:16:35.774 --> 00:16:40.017 And it's going to give the hr haters out there just another piece of ammunition. 00:16:40.017 --> 00:16:45.289 Yeah, they're going to dislike on hr4, so yeah it's. 00:16:45.730 --> 00:16:50.938 I mean, that is, let's be honest she was very, very much biased to the corporate side. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:59.268 She was definitely there for the company took one for the tea, oh my gosh. 00:17:00.168 --> 00:17:01.951 So uh, just messy, messy. 00:17:01.951 --> 00:17:03.616 Just don't be messy about it. 00:17:03.616 --> 00:17:11.117 You're not happy in your marriages, you just get a divorce and go your separate ways and then you do whatever you want. 00:17:11.117 --> 00:17:24.307 It's very weird, the whole behind people's backs very messy, and I'm like that's why I don't really feel bad that they got caught yeah, yeah, like all they had to do was give each other a little peck on the kiss camp. 00:17:24.776 --> 00:17:27.942 Nobody would have ever known, it would have just disappeared. 00:17:27.942 --> 00:17:37.994 But to act that way, and then chris martin call them out and say something like uh, they're either camera shy or having an affair, or something like that, that just made it even better, apparently. 00:17:37.994 --> 00:17:44.327 And so, yeah, hr is going to take the lumps on this one for a little while at least. 00:17:44.327 --> 00:17:47.518 So, yeah, fun, fun, fun. 00:17:47.518 --> 00:18:10.729 But let's see here, okay, before I get to my other topic, this, the week before I went on vacation was a very unique week at work because we had more drop-in, unannounced solicitors at my office than I can remember. 00:18:10.729 --> 00:18:16.807 Actually, we have conference rooms in office, but they don't hold more than like a dozen people. 00:18:16.807 --> 00:18:25.167 So if we do something big, we just do it in the lobby, and we just happen to be doing my recruiter's five-year anniversary award plaque money. 00:18:25.167 --> 00:18:37.669 So we did that and we're all in there and the president of the company is there and a copy machine salesperson comes to the door and it's a secure building, so they have to be buzzed in. 00:18:37.669 --> 00:18:46.201 And the person closest to the door, and it's a secure building, so they have to be buzzed in. 00:18:46.201 --> 00:18:47.384 And the person closest door was, of course, our president. 00:18:47.384 --> 00:18:48.268 You know he's like trying to be all cool. 00:18:48.268 --> 00:18:48.829 Oh, all this for me, you know. 00:18:48.829 --> 00:18:50.414 And he said, well, I'm with whatever copier company, nope, we're not interested. 00:18:50.414 --> 00:18:51.436 Thank you, goodbye. 00:18:51.436 --> 00:18:52.357 And it was. 00:18:52.357 --> 00:18:53.440 It was great. 00:18:53.859 --> 00:18:57.506 That's really the second time it happened. 00:18:57.506 --> 00:19:15.461 Our receptionist was out of the office and I just happened to be getting ready to start a meeting and I'm going to the conference room and somebody's at the door so I go into the door to answer it, and it just happened to be a payroll company doing door to door. 00:19:15.461 --> 00:19:16.143 I was like nope. 00:19:16.143 --> 00:19:18.516 I said first I said, well, he asked to speak. 00:19:18.516 --> 00:19:27.063 I was here, I wanted to speak to Warren and I said, well, I just happened to be Warren and I could see the name of the payroll company on his shirt. 00:19:27.063 --> 00:19:29.976 I said, look, I'm getting ready to go in a meeting. 00:19:29.976 --> 00:19:34.424 I have zero interest in changing any payroll companies. 00:19:34.424 --> 00:19:39.016 And I said it's just not period going to happen. 00:19:39.016 --> 00:19:39.939 And I I said, but I've really got to go. 00:19:39.939 --> 00:19:47.855 And he handed me a card and gave me a lottery ticket, which I haven't scratched off yet, to see if I get anything out of it, but I just the drop in unannounced solicitors. 00:19:47.855 --> 00:19:51.864 I just that's such poor taste, I, I feel aggressive. 00:19:51.963 --> 00:19:52.786 I don't like it. 00:19:52.786 --> 00:19:58.575 I don't like it when people come unannounced at my home oh yeah, text before you come over, but yeah, you're at work like it when people come unannounced at my home oh yeah, text before you come over. 00:19:58.575 --> 00:20:01.700 But even at work it's just so. 00:20:01.700 --> 00:20:09.065 You're going about your business, you're running into meetings, you're trying to, and someone just shows up and it's just rude. 00:20:09.575 --> 00:20:16.827 I understand they're trying to do their job and that's what they do and things like that, but that just I have not seen. 00:20:16.827 --> 00:20:34.115 You know, aflac used to be the worst when it came to door-to-door sales business for at least HR-related stuff, and then some of the temp agencies followed behind Aflac and but I hadn't seen any in forever and I do our office manager. 00:20:34.115 --> 00:20:35.580 She sits at the front desk. 00:20:35.580 --> 00:20:39.202 I think she does a good job of shooting them down, so I don't even know. 00:20:39.202 --> 00:20:50.164 A lot of them come by, but she says it's been busier lately again Anyhow, and as you know, I deeply despise solicitors. 00:20:51.256 --> 00:20:53.429 Oh, as your LinkedIn profile says, yes. 00:20:54.835 --> 00:20:58.098 Yes, yes, so my my top. 00:20:58.098 --> 00:21:07.951 Another topic I had for today was some of my people watching experiences while I was in Costa Rica. 00:21:08.815 --> 00:21:11.357 That is my all time favorite hobby. 00:21:12.919 --> 00:21:15.500 My wife and I lived in the DC area. 00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:17.143 This was before children time. 00:21:17.143 --> 00:21:27.612 We would actually take our bikes, put them on the metro drive into the downtown mall area of DC just to ride our bikes around and people watch. 00:21:27.612 --> 00:21:29.441 This was pre-9-11. 00:21:29.441 --> 00:21:31.603 You could ride your bike pretty much anywhere. 00:21:31.603 --> 00:21:46.528 At that time there always seemed to be protests at the International Monetary Fund building so we'd always make sure that was on our route and things like that and just the people watching was very much top notch in the DC downtown DC area. 00:21:47.214 --> 00:21:54.727 But now you know, living in the sticks there's not as much, but going on vacation, there's always something going on for people watching. 00:21:54.727 --> 00:21:59.969 But this vacation offered me some really eye-openers. 00:21:59.969 --> 00:22:01.479 I'm gonna try some of them. 00:22:01.479 --> 00:22:04.656 I'm not gonna be able to relate to hr, I just think they're funny as hell and I want to share the story. 00:22:04.656 --> 00:22:05.799 A couple of them. 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:17.684 I want to relate to hr in some way, but here's the the most disturbing people watching uh, my wife and I experience and I can't relate it to HR, so this is just a funny story. 00:22:18.605 --> 00:22:21.910 So all the beaches in Costa Rica are public. 00:22:21.910 --> 00:22:23.010 There's no private beaches. 00:22:23.010 --> 00:22:37.618 Your resort doesn't have its own private beach or anything like that, but the beach that my resort is on only has two entrances the resort entrance and a public entrance which is 50 yards north of the resort entrance and a public entrance which is 50 yards north of the resort entrance. 00:22:37.618 --> 00:22:43.365 So my wife and I, you go down and we got our place on the beach and it's a wide-open beach. 00:22:43.365 --> 00:22:44.405 There's not that many people. 00:22:44.405 --> 00:22:56.943 We went like 100 yards away from the resort entrance, the main entrance, to get away from people, just be able to sit there and enjoy ourselves and have some drinks and watch the ocean and things like that. 00:22:56.943 --> 00:23:00.913 Go swimming, enjoy ourselves and have some drinks and watch the ocean and things like that. 00:23:00.913 --> 00:23:01.255 Go swimming. 00:23:07.134 --> 00:23:15.077 Well, a couple comes and so we're a hundred yards from the main entrance, we're probably 50 yards from the next closest group of people, and then there's hundreds and hundreds of miles, like in North Carolina. 00:23:15.077 --> 00:23:15.961 The beach goes on forever. 00:23:15.961 --> 00:23:21.940 There's rocks and cliffs and things, but it goes on for several hundred yards beyond us where there's absolutely nobody. 00:23:21.940 --> 00:24:03.616 But this couple comes and, I kid you not, they're like 20 feet in front of us and it's a male and female and they are she's like directing the guy to take these pics and she's like I mean they no nudity, but she was making some very sultry type positions and facial expressions and she took, like, the bikini top off and was covering herself and doing these little positions and she's directing the guy who's taking the pictures oh, get higher, get lower. 00:24:03.616 --> 00:24:05.798 She was not wearing a thong. 00:24:06.741 --> 00:24:11.798 But she pulled her whole bikini bottom straight up her ass to make herself have a thong. 00:24:11.798 --> 00:24:17.103 And she's like getting on her all fours once again, bathing suit, bikini undone and covering with one hand. 00:24:17.103 --> 00:24:20.559 And she's telling get behind me, get this angle, get that. 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:28.945 And she's going to town and my wife and i're like looking at our which she could have gone another 100 yards this way, we would have never seen them. 00:24:28.945 --> 00:24:41.796 But and they had to know we're there, we're 20 feet from them and she's just going on and on directing him and and so on, so forth, and it was just, it was awkward for us. 00:24:41.796 --> 00:24:56.621 Like we're on our towels sitting here on the beach, are we going to get up and leave, or it was just, it was just incredibly uncomfortable, it was it was just like over, just jaw dropped there and I feel 00:24:56.641 --> 00:25:00.894 like for minutes I feel like this is a real life situation. 00:25:00.894 --> 00:25:18.406 Um, I don't know if you've ever been on the reddit instagram versus real life or instagram versus reality or something and it's like I wonder what her final instagram or tiktoks were like the fully edited one, versus what you were seeing, the chaotic behind the scenes that was to get there. 00:25:19.315 --> 00:25:32.384 And I will say and I'm not trying to be mean I think the man might have had some developmental disabilities, judging by some of his mannerisms and behaviors and things like this. 00:25:32.384 --> 00:25:37.964 And anyways, my wife and I we didn't know what type of relationship they had. 00:25:37.964 --> 00:25:39.721 She was obviously older than him. 00:25:39.721 --> 00:25:47.308 We didn't know if it was one of those whatever you call it spring winter relationships or you know where there's a big age difference or anything like that. 00:25:47.308 --> 00:25:59.107 So well, the next night they're sitting near us at dinner on the resort and we paid for. 00:25:59.107 --> 00:26:02.692 They had three levels of I don't know what you. 00:26:02.692 --> 00:26:05.259 They have standard, deluxe and VIP. 00:26:05.259 --> 00:26:11.280 We got the deluxe, so we got preferred seating in the restaurants and things like that, which was actually great. 00:26:11.280 --> 00:26:20.258 But we got to sit outside on the patio and for dinner at this restaurant but they were like on the other side of the wall and window from us. 00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:28.836 So the first thing that happens as they sit down, the lady gets extremely rude with the waiter. 00:26:28.836 --> 00:26:31.443 And she had the same waiter we had and he was fabulous. 00:26:31.443 --> 00:26:32.145 He was awesome. 00:26:32.145 --> 00:26:37.936 I had no complaints with any of the service I received anywhere the whole time, but he was absolutely fabulous. 00:26:37.936 --> 00:26:40.406 But she just says and when he comes to take her order. 00:26:40.406 --> 00:26:44.721 Well, I didn't bring my glasses, so you're just going to have to read the whole menu to me. 00:26:45.502 --> 00:26:52.424 And my wife and I sort of looked at each other and like, yeah, you can do something rather than this. 00:26:52.424 --> 00:26:54.288 And he played. 00:26:54.288 --> 00:27:02.483 He was very, and because it's all inclusive, you don't there's no tips or anything like that, and in Costa Rica tips are built into your bill. 00:27:02.483 --> 00:27:11.809 Anyways, when we went off the resort to go to dinner, I actually wanted to give the waiter a better tip than the inclusive one, but it didn't even give me the option. 00:27:11.809 --> 00:27:25.375 There was no option to give him and I didn't have any cash, either Costa Rican or US, on me at the time, so I did kind of feel bad, but anyways, I was like that man deserves a bigger tip from her In some way. 00:27:25.375 --> 00:27:28.705 She was just so rude and what have you? 00:27:28.705 --> 00:27:39.401 Well, later in the meal we discovered their relationship was mother-son and she, oh yeah, and she, oh yeah, and she. 00:27:39.623 --> 00:27:41.616 Oh, he was taking the pictures of his mom. 00:27:41.636 --> 00:27:43.141 He was taking the pictures of his mom. 00:27:43.942 --> 00:27:44.344 Oh no. 00:27:45.116 --> 00:27:46.065 Well, there's the twist, yeah. 00:27:46.991 --> 00:27:47.957 It took me a second. 00:27:49.211 --> 00:27:51.900 It was a mother-son and we figured it out. 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:55.519 Now the restaurant is a small restaurant. 00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:02.759 It has maybe 12 tables in it, not a huge restaurant, so you can hear everything that's going on in there. 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.077 She yells at this. 00:28:05.077 --> 00:28:07.276 He has to be over 18. 00:28:07.276 --> 00:28:09.458 It was an adults-only resort. 00:28:09.458 --> 00:28:10.932 But he goes. 00:28:10.932 --> 00:28:13.532 Stop being such a dumb ass like your father. 00:28:13.532 --> 00:28:16.221 I'm like oh, yells at him. 00:28:16.221 --> 00:28:18.328 I couldn't hear anything he said or did. 00:28:18.328 --> 00:28:19.775 I don't know what caused that. 00:28:19.775 --> 00:28:32.424 I was like that's where we learned what the relationship was and my wife like oh my god, we kind of thought it was, but judging by the pictures, I thought okay, maybe it's a big age discrepancy. 00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:36.000 It sounds super healthy yeah. 00:28:36.930 --> 00:28:39.378 Well, so that night goes. 00:28:39.378 --> 00:28:55.115 Then a third night we're waiting for our reservation at the resort steakhouse and we're just sitting fully dressed in our street clothes at the pool, people watching and things, and they come. 00:28:55.115 --> 00:28:57.340 As we're sitting there, they come to get in the pool. 00:28:57.340 --> 00:29:02.875 It's like nighttime, it's starting to get dark, and what happens in the pool? 00:29:02.875 --> 00:29:14.058 She's asking him to take more pictures and she's like you know, at dark the pool has lights and she's getting in front of it and she's like make sure you get my boobs. 00:29:14.058 --> 00:29:18.461 And then I was floating and like get my ass too. 00:29:18.461 --> 00:29:21.605 And she's talking to her son in this way. 00:29:21.630 --> 00:29:24.839 I'm like if this is what they're doing out here. 00:29:26.073 --> 00:29:27.498 I don't want to know what's going on in that. 00:29:27.498 --> 00:29:33.010 I wanted to like, like I said, I think the boy was developmentally disabled in some way. 00:29:33.010 --> 00:29:39.042 Just observationally, he didn't seem all the way there and I'm like what? 00:29:39.063 --> 00:29:44.383 the hell's going on dynamic yeah, that was, I was someone. 00:29:44.383 --> 00:29:47.250 Is this something we should be reporting to somebody? 00:29:47.250 --> 00:29:50.576 Because it was weird and it's just that. 00:29:50.576 --> 00:29:56.473 Oh, it was weird and we like, if we saw them, we sort of started heading the other way. 00:29:56.473 --> 00:30:01.935 We didn't have any other dinner reservations at the same time they did, thankfully, and things like that. 00:30:01.935 --> 00:30:03.580 That was, that was real weird. 00:30:04.182 --> 00:30:08.532 Also at the resort, the, the people in the room next to us. 00:30:08.532 --> 00:30:09.634 My wife gets mad at me. 00:30:09.634 --> 00:30:13.884 There's a redeveloping trend in a lot of the stories of my wife getting mad at me. 00:30:13.884 --> 00:30:23.380 But I call people that are my kids' age and younger, little boys, little girls, and obviously they're over 18 if they're at this resort and things. 00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:29.502 But the people and I call them little boy and little girl in the room next to us, they look like they're 15. 00:30:29.502 --> 00:30:31.592 I wouldn't have believed that they were 18. 00:30:31.592 --> 00:30:33.933 Girl in the room next to us they looked like they were 15. 00:30:33.933 --> 00:30:35.515 I wouldn't have believed that they were 18. 00:30:35.515 --> 00:30:37.376 But anyways, they were there and they're very young. 00:30:37.376 --> 00:30:40.578 They were actually in the pool enjoying the pool. 00:30:40.578 --> 00:30:46.825 They're in the pool too and they're walking around together and this guy comes up and he starts to talk to him. 00:30:46.825 --> 00:30:52.873 I don't know, it didn't seem like they knew him before and you could see they're trying to get away. 00:30:52.873 --> 00:30:55.500 They're sort of scooting backwards trying to get away and he's following. 00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:59.675 They did like a whole circle around the pool. 00:30:59.675 --> 00:31:05.193 Then they get out of the pool and said well, we have to go, we'll talk to you later. 00:31:05.193 --> 00:31:07.378 And I was like he seemed like a stalker. 00:31:07.378 --> 00:31:09.722 Part of me wanted to ask him is everything okay? 00:31:09.722 --> 00:31:11.503 Do you need help in any way? 00:31:11.503 --> 00:31:17.232 I didn't, because they seemed to get out of the pool and sort of got out of the area quickly. 00:31:17.232 --> 00:31:19.114 But that is another thing. 00:31:19.114 --> 00:31:20.218 But those are the two stories. 00:31:20.258 --> 00:31:25.996 I can't really relate to HR, but I got two people watching stories. 00:31:25.996 --> 00:31:35.682 I can definitely relate to HR and I did two different excursions while we were in Costa Rica. 00:31:35.682 --> 00:31:48.960 The first excursion, the first day, my wife and I being in our 50s we were the youngest people on this excursion and there were some very interesting other people on this excursion. 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:56.159 It's only a group of 10 people is the maximum size of these excursions, so it was a small group of people. 00:31:56.159 --> 00:32:06.916 You're in a van going from place to place together, so you're on the van, probably a total of three, maybe as many four hours together as you're going place to place and things like that. 00:32:06.916 --> 00:32:13.257 And the tour guides were awesome and they would sort of you know, do hey, where are you from and what do you do for a living? 00:32:13.257 --> 00:32:13.880 Why are you here? 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.795 What do you want to do in Costa Rica, what brought you to Costa Rica, and things like that. 00:32:16.795 --> 00:32:19.002 So we got to know people. 00:32:19.002 --> 00:32:23.799 We had some very interesting people One guy who claimed he's a lawyer. 00:32:24.201 --> 00:32:32.462 He said he did real estate and criminal defense and I was like that's a weird combination but I wouldn't let him get me out of a parking ticket or close on a dog house for me. 00:32:32.462 --> 00:32:32.932 He was. 00:32:32.932 --> 00:32:35.630 He was a very interesting person. 00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:41.262 And another another gentleman was just one of the excursion we were on. 00:32:41.262 --> 00:33:01.784 The main event of the excursion was a river cruise to see wildlife up and down the river and he was nearly in tears because the boat we were on did not have life vests and he wanted a life vest and he was literally on the verge of tears about not having a life vest and it's the law, it's the law, it's the law. 00:33:01.784 --> 00:33:13.340 And I was waiting for a very interesting lawyer friend to chime in then and I'm like you got to remember you're in Costa Rica, not the United States, and take a ferry across. 00:33:13.340 --> 00:33:15.596 We've got ferries in my area. 00:33:15.596 --> 00:33:19.740 You don't have to put on a vest to go on the ferry and things like that. 00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:23.039 But anyways, he'd been getting on my nerves before that point. 00:33:23.109 --> 00:33:27.029 Wait, was he upset that you weren't being handed life vests? 00:33:27.069 --> 00:33:30.115 No, there were no life vests on the boat, that at least you could see. 00:33:30.115 --> 00:33:37.644 But he wanted to be wearing one and anyways, and I said well, why don't we find you a life vest? 00:33:37.644 --> 00:33:43.553 That way, if the boat goes over, you can be floating crocodile food, while my wife and I safely swim away. 00:33:44.074 --> 00:33:45.798 And my wife punched me in the ribs. 00:33:45.798 --> 00:33:51.017 I probably still have a bruise from that one because I was just sick of him by then. 00:33:51.017 --> 00:33:52.559 So, like, not that. 00:33:52.559 --> 00:34:03.199 Much later the the cruise boat pulls up, we're on the side of the river, five feet from a crocodile that's sunning on the on the bank, and we're all taking pictures and ooh, and things like that. 00:34:03.199 --> 00:34:04.221 And he goes on. 00:34:04.221 --> 00:34:07.701 Oh, I think this is a doll, this isn't alive, it's not moving. 00:34:07.701 --> 00:34:15.297 And the tour guide is like, oh well, they're cold-blooded and they, after they eat, they need to sit on the sun to help them digest. 00:34:15.297 --> 00:34:17.521 Yada, yada, yada and things like that. 00:34:17.521 --> 00:34:23.072 Then, all of a sudden, the crocodile decided he didn't want to be near the boat anymore and he turned around and slid back in the river. 00:34:23.072 --> 00:34:31.436 This man practically shit himself trying to get out of it was just so crazy and so ridiculous. 00:34:31.436 --> 00:34:35.760 And the lawyer person wanting to ask you know, where are the hippopotamus? 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:36.782 Where are the tigers? 00:34:36.782 --> 00:34:39.905 I'm like we're in Costa Rica, there's no hippopotamus. 00:34:41.510 --> 00:34:42.835 Now I know from watching Narcos You're an old man. 00:34:42.996 --> 00:34:56.652 Yeah, from being in Narcos watching Narcos, I know there are hippopotamus in Colombia, thanks to Juan Pablo Sandoval, but I don't think there are any hippos in the river in Costa Rica. 00:34:56.652 --> 00:35:06.206 But my point, to tie this back to HR in some random, strange way the quality of the group you're around really impacts your experience. 00:35:06.206 --> 00:35:09.376 We got everything we wanted out of the tour. 00:35:09.376 --> 00:35:19.193 We saw monkeys, we saw crocodiles, we saw, we saw the jesus christ lizard now, he wasn't running across the water or anything like that, but we saw one I don't know what you're talking about. 00:35:19.233 --> 00:35:23.079 Now I'm like the what and I'm like, oh, the little, yeah, he runs across the water. 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:32.304 We saw him sitting on the shore and the boat driver stopped and was trying to like rev up the engine of the boat to sort of scare him to see if he would run across the water. 00:35:32.304 --> 00:35:33.072 He wasn't doing it. 00:35:33.072 --> 00:35:36.596 He wasn't having any part of it, but we got to see that. 00:35:36.596 --> 00:35:41.543