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Speaker 2: Had you actually read
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the podcast you are about to
listen to could contain explicit

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language and offensive content.

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Speaker 1: These HR experts'
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their past, present or future
employers.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jaded HR,
the podcast by two HR

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professionals who want to help
you get through the workday by

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saying everything you're
thinking.

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I'm Warren.

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Speaker 1: I'm Cece.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, before
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Warren and we're going to talk
through this episode about a

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couple of videos.

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It may be easier for you if you
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notes to see these YouTube
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Reddit, but we'll put the links
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follow along with us.

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It may not be as easy to follow
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Thanks y'all.

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All right, so well.

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We were just talking.

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Both of us have so much going
on, so much fun stuff, some

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things I'd love to share on the
air, but it might have to wait

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till a little time.

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What's to say, the difference
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time.

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So maybe give it, let this one
age a little bit before, and

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then maybe I won't be so
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But I think, with our topics
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them, uh well, I'm gonna.

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I have one thing I'm going to
bring, but you triggered me.

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Each and everything you sent me
triggered me at a different

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level or a different way.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is
going to be fun-jaded.

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It was literally that meme.

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From what is that show?

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Community?

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Where like he walks back in the
room with pizza and everything

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is on fire, like that's how I
felt the internet was this week,

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where he walks back in the room
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fire.

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That's how I felt the internet
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I detoxed from some of my
social media and then I came

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back and we have all three of
the stories that came up this

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week that were kind of
work-related and I was like this

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is why we can't have nice
things.

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I turn around, I come back,
everything's on fire.

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Speaker 2: Oh, kind of sort of
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But speaking of what, this is
why we can't have nice things.

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I mean the taylor swift
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We have all these news channel
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it doesn't.

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We have fox, we have cnn, we
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We have all of them out there.

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All of of them were covering
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Speaker 1: Yes, rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was
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I couldn't hear it and I was too
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We keep it on mute with the
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many TVs all competing against
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the caption, but the headline
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Speaker 1: I'm like the
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engagement that man better keep
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touch taylor swift.

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This is someone.

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I was talking to someone today
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american version of a royal
wedding and and I'm like, this

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is this is our royal wedding.

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Speaker 2: No, people at my work
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It ended up in order, like I
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coming back and I go through the
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When I do that, it's the
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And also I do like looking at
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headlines are, and normally this
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and CNBC has that and whatever
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I'm like, well, I was first I
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Like when they're all covering
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all it was the engagement.

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And I was like, oh, I thought
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talking about this is a royal
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American royal wedding and I
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a billionaire, but she should
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Speaker 1: Right so anyways, I
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buy tickets to go see it, just
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Speaker 2: so I would I would go
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experience oh, yeah, yeah, true,
yeah, but that's some cool,

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positive things going on in the
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too many shitty things going on
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Let's see, here I I cut you off
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why we can't have nice things,
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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift song
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the way, that was an excellent
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, Warren Bravo.

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Speaker 2: The old guy can do it
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Every once in a while I can
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But I've been meaning to ask my
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of a Swiftie he'd have a
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Is that a song about another
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Because she makes so many songs
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it sounds sort of like that is a
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I just I don't have the the pop
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so maybe that'll be a patreon
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We can get my son on board to
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before I go too far, I want to
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Like I said, we want to do
those earlier and recognize our

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Patreon supporters, who are
Hallie, the original Jaded HR

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Rockstar, michael and Bill you
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email, so please look at your
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I want to see what we can make
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So, anyways, thank you for your
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Speaker 1: read your messages.

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Speaker 2: If you like.

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The intro says if you'd
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No, no, bill.

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Anyways.

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So that's our thank yous, and
Andrew Culpa is the announcer

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and the music is the underscore
orchestra devil the devil.

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So that's out of the way and we
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But I'm going to start things
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to share with you my screen.

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So once upon a time, as you
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will kind of sort of, in a way,
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our topics today water park.

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I used to work at put this ad
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and it seems like they're
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As summer winds down, you want
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your team.

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Why not a unforgettable day at
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Imagine the excitement and
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way it goes on.

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So, as an hr professional, what
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building exercise at a water
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No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: That's my nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Your nightmare.

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Yeah, as soon as I saw that, I
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park.

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Actually, if another department
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, we're going to do this for our
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drastically against it.

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If not, try and put my foot
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I don't know.

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You're asking for trouble with
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Speaker 1: No, I don't want to
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that I work with.

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I don't want my eyeball.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, bathing
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and more revealing all the time
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suits.

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It does remind me of when I
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We had a season pass holder and
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came every single day and she
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and our policy on swimsuits was
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beaches by the county, it was
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is that was a particularly busy
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me because she had a complaint.

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So I had to go talk to her and
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I'd see in an aquarium and I'm
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was her, one of her things.

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And my, my 15 year old son he's
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I'm like he is not embarrassed,
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I remembering 15 year old
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No, your 15 year old son is not
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this or anything.

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So yeah, we'll just pick up,
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The last thing we said was but
that's a hard, no.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard no for
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Why can't we just do a fun
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Speaker 2: We're actually having
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involved in the morale events
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And since it's the start of
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episode gets released on
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the time, right now it's 730
East Carolina plays North

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Carolina State at Raleigh.

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So turn it on, wear your purple
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We're 14-point underdogs.

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And the Military Bowl against
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14-point underdogs and we won,
so let's see what we got.

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So, anyways, our theme is a
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So we're doing that on Wednesday
that will be tomorrow,

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wednesday and then on Friday,
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Game Day, we're telling
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sports paraphernalia, whether
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So it's going to be, we're
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that.

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So I like that, I'm looking
forward to it.

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So yay, so yeah, but I I think
I was going to say I this can

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sort of kind of tie into the
first story you sent me.

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So why don't you, why don't you
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And we'll put a link in the
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If you haven't seen it, it
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number of views when I watched
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this
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and the resort is owned by
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umbrella company.

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It looks like he has his phone
in his pocket, but he's an

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employee and he's a bartender
who had a late shift and he

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approached the manager and said,
basically, I need to sleep in.

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It's unacceptable that you are
banging on the door at 9 am,

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like at the neighbors.

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So his neighbors, like whoever
lived next to him, were also

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employees and the manager came
banging at their door at 9 am

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specifically because they both
called out sick.

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So the manager, I guess, wanted
to check if they like we really

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don't know from the video,
speculating whether or not like

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well, we can speculate that she
actually wanted them to come to

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work because she did say that
they were like understaffed and

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she needed them.

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And he said that's unacceptable
, that basically you wouldn't do

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that if this was like a regular
job, like you wouldn't drive to

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an employee's house and pull
this crap with them, so why are

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you doing it here?

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Speaker 2: I'll just interrupt
there.

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If you remember I think we even
talked in Germany Tesla was

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doing that to their employees
who who called out sick, they

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were going, managers were going
to the employees houses and if

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you called out sick and checking
in on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a
nightmare.

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So the altercation now I do
want to point out because it

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does, I think it kind of comes
into play a little bit only

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because there's a couple of
things that I think escalated

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the situation further.

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But he's, he has his camera in
his shirt pocket and he's

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talking with his hands and you
can tell by his hands that he is

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, he is a person of color and,
like this does kind of come into

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play a little later.

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So she's like if you need to
talk about this, you need to

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take it up with HR.

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Like the manager, you need to
take it up with HR, that's all.

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And he's like I will.

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So she, I guess.

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Later it cuts to them walking
into what I assume is the HR

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person's office and she runs
like, walks ahead of them and on

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camera like he's filming she
goes, and on camera like he's

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filming she goes, he's out there
yelling at me.

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So first of all, he was not, I
don't know Warren like you

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watched it too.

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Speaker 2: Do you think like he
was yelling at her?

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I, okay, I don't think he was
yelling at her.

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I think he came in hot.

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Speaker 1: He didn't come in hot
.

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He was frustrated.

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Speaker 2: He came in hot and I
think I've got two pages of

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notes written on this.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Because I texted you,
you sent it to me.

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I watched the video.

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I only got five minutes in
before I'm replying to you.

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Oh, I'm triggered at multiple,
multiple levels At this point.

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Yeah, and only five minutes.

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This video, I think it's like
40 minutes long.

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It may not be 40 minutes, but
it's long.

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I got triggered very early on
with it.

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So, yes, I think he came in hot
.

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I wouldn't say he was yelling
at her, but then again, we don't

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know.

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As you said, there was a cut in
there and when they go from it

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looks like the restaurant area,
into the, into Jeff's office,

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and I did not believe Jeff was
HR.

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I don't think anybody there was
.

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I didn't take it that anybody
was HR, but but I could be

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completely, completely wrong on
that, is it?

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It really it looks like this
Robin manager is like the

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restaurant manager and things
like that.

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So yeah, but one of the things
I wanted to point out is my

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number.

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This is the first thing I wrote
down.

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This reinforces the point
Always assume your employees are

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recording you, because they're
serotypically recording you,

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especially in these things.

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And then JJ knew what he was
doing.

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Why would you go in there
recording it if you're going to

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have a subtle conversation with
your manager and we don't know

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what transpired before he
started recording.

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But why are you going to go in
there recording to complain?

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Hey, why did you knock on the
door my neighbor's door so much?

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She did it for five minutes and
left and came back and banged

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on the door again, or something
like that, and things like that.

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Hey, that's not cool.

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He went in there with an agenda
and he was going to stir the

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pot and I think, probably
because he worked there, he knew

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the reaction he was going to
get from Robin if not Robin and

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Jeff, who are the evil doers in
this, the management team that

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are evil doers in there.

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So he knew what he was doing,
he got the reaction he wanted

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and he is extremely, extremely
far from innocent on this at so,

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yeah, he's not innocent, but
I'm Robin, I'm assuming as a

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manager, this Jeff guy, I'm
assuming as a manager.

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They, they took a bad situation
and let's say, hey, here's some

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gasoline, let's let's see if we
can make this, light it on fire

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.

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Yeah, what can we do?

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What could we do to make this
work?

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So fire, yeah, what can we do?

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What could we do to make this
worse?

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So I'll let you continue from
there so then like they walk.

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Speaker 1: So first of all she's
like blatantly lying, like oh

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my god, he's yelling at me,
which I'm like, okay, I think

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let's calm down.

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And then again, like he sits
down and they start talking,

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he's frustrated, frustrated.

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So in his voice he is
frustrated, but he is being

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quiet, like he's not yelling.

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No, he's not like getting in
anyone's faces, he's sitting

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where Jeff told him to sit.

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Speaker 2: And Jeff pulled out a
chair for him.

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Speaker 1: He pulled out a chair
for him, he sat down and

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they're having this conversation
and, like, the whole

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conversation has to do with like
, oh, specifically, robin robin

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has no respect for the employees
.

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The employees are afraid to
speak out because they're eight,

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they're on j1 j1.

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They're j1 employees, so they
feel like if they speak up,

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they're gonna get fired and sent
back, like they're going to

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lose their visa and then just
like all this stuff, and it's

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like we give you feedback but
you don't hear the feedback and

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you don't care because you don't
care about us.

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So that's why, like I hear,
like I heard what you were

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saying before, but this is like
I feel like this is a long time

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brewing.

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So I do think you're right, jj
knew what he was doing by

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bringing the camera in to be
like I need you know.

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I don't know why he did it,
just to make this video, maybe

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who knows.

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But at the same time, like this
has been brewing because they

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also mentioned some players,
like like previously, especially

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like one particular woman who
just recently got fired, izzy

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and it's just like he's just
basically saying you don't care,

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you don't care.

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And then he turns to Jeff and
he said, jeff, like we've been

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giving you feedback, and Jeff
turns around and gas on the damn

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fire, jeff, he just is like
well, you're just a bartender.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: To which anybody, I
want to say, the only people who

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say you're just a bartender or
you're just a server or you're

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just.

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This has never worked in the
hospitality industry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like, and also it
just my jaw hit the floor when

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he was just like you're just a
bartender, like, how

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disrespectful are you?

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Speaker 2: And, like I said,
that's where one of the many

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bombs went off and JJ sort of
lost it at that point.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I did skip ahead
a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You're right, yes,
but I did want to go back myself

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to back to Robin giving where
they're in the restaurant bar

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area, and he's talking to her
First.

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She gives way too much
information, you don't?

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Hey, I need to talk to whoever
was in the other room.

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I forget their names.

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I didn't write it down and put
it in my notes or anything like

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that.

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So now telling them oh, they
called out sick, both the

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roommates calling out sick, okay
, whatever.

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But she was right when she said
this is not between me and you.

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He really wanted to.

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He was pushing the button, this
is.

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And then he was going into this
is harassment.

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This is harassment.

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And someone not if it was
another student banging on the

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door at 9am, you wouldn't be
saying it's harassment.

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You know another J1, I do have
from tying this into the last

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part of I work with J-1s.

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Now, the year after I left, the
J-1 laws changed a lot from my

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understanding and I don't work
with them anymore.

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So I don't know all of it, but
it did change a lot.

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But she also tells she told him
you're going to have to talk to

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HR and rather than saying okay,
I will, and carrying his butt

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to HR, he follows her as she's
sort of running away.

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Now it looked to me like she was
quick-stepping it.

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She was not casually strolling
into Jeff's office when she goes

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to say that he's yelling at me.

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So that was one thing that she
was absolutely in the wrong for.

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But just say hey, you're going
to have a good talk.

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You know, I'm sorry.

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And she apologized.

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And how sincere was it.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, a 2.

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You know she was.

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You know, if I could give it
zero stars, I would.

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If I could give it zero stars
would, yeah, she, she apologized

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, but I can a little, a little
bit.

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So the manager went to the
house and he, she woke everybody

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up.

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No, she just woke jj up.

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But she's all anti-manager on
it.

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And did she have the right to
do that?

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Yeah, she has a right.

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Was it the right thing to do?

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May does it, may no mean.

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But she goes on to say how J-1s
have to stay there.

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Like I said, the year after I
left the water park, the laws

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changed with J-1s you would have
J-1s you would hire from.

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It didn't matter the country or
work ethic, they hired, they

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came, they did their onboarding
paperwork and you never saw them

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again.

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Poof gone.

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They just wanted a trip to the
United States.

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You never saw them again, poof
gone.

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They just wanted a trip to the
United States.

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And a lot of areas that depend
on tourism really depend on

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these J-1 students a lot.

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I mean, when I was there, the
water park could not have

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operated without them because
when the summer started in May,

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high school kids were still in
high school, so we needed the

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J-1s because we didn't have any
high school kids.

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Then, as much as I've
complained about the high school

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kids were still in high school,
so we needed the j1s because we

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didn't have any high school
kids.

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Then, as much as I've
complained about the high school

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kids.

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And then there these people are
usually 18 to like 25 ish, and

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then at the end of the season
the high schoolers and some of

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the american college kids have
already gone back to school.

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So we needed them again.

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And you, one thing I learned you
you vary up the countries you

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bring students in from because
they have different start times.

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So you have the country a they
can be there when you're opening

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in may and but they're going to
leave in the middle to the late

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so they can get back to school.

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In country b.

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They start later so you can
have them at the ends of your

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season.

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So there's a little strategy
behind it stuff.

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But anyways, she says they have
to stay there.

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Technically, yes, but they
don't.

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It's not absolute, and this is
one thing that drove me nuts

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about the, about the.

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The host I'm gonna call her ray
spader you have two white

469
00:22:51,692 --> 00:22:53,806
people and she's using the term.

470
00:22:53,806 --> 00:22:56,000
They're cornering him in on
jeff's office.

471
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,862
They never corn.

472
00:22:56,862 --> 00:23:01,691
Jeff pulled out my chair and he
sat down just because I will

473
00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:05,704
say running, I think robin
running and acting all afraid

474
00:23:05,744 --> 00:23:06,467
and lying on him.

475
00:23:06,866 --> 00:23:10,622
Maybe that has some racial to it
, but she's like oh, a brown

476
00:23:10,642 --> 00:23:11,123
person's, I, I.

477
00:23:11,123 --> 00:23:12,426
There's so much real racism,
xenophobia, anti brown person's.

478
00:23:12,426 --> 00:23:17,038
There's so much real racism,
xenophobia, anti-semitism.

479
00:23:17,038 --> 00:23:18,886
There's so much real stuff out
there.

480
00:23:18,886 --> 00:23:21,787
Let's not go finding it where
it might not actually be,

481
00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:23,371
especially if she's just.

482
00:23:23,371 --> 00:23:26,969
I'm not trying to defend Robin
in any way, shape or form.

483
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, because
Robin's horrible at a job.

484
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,006
Speaker 2: That's a trigger for
me doing, calling something

485
00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:34,252
racist just because maybe a
white person and a person of

486
00:23:34,272 --> 00:23:35,260
color have a disagreement?

487
00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:36,523
It's not.

488
00:23:36,523 --> 00:23:39,171
Am I a racist because I don't
agree with everything johnny c

489
00:23:39,211 --> 00:23:40,480
taylor does at sherm?

490
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,609
No, I can disagree with johnny
c taylor because he says weird

491
00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:48,305
things and does weird things dei
let's talk about but anyways,

492
00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:49,688
you can.

493
00:23:50,289 --> 00:23:55,147
It doesn't have to be so that
the race fading is is a as a

494
00:23:55,188 --> 00:23:55,709
trigger.

495
00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:57,673
I I don't like it.

496
00:23:57,673 --> 00:23:59,344
So anyways, I'll stop it and
I'll.

497
00:23:59,344 --> 00:24:02,839
I went on much longer than I
want to like I said this

498
00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:07,209
triggered me at so many levels
with that, so I will say like I

499
00:24:07,509 --> 00:24:08,813
agree with her.

500
00:24:09,012 --> 00:24:11,465
Speaker 1: I think there are
microaggressions happening there

501
00:24:11,465 --> 00:24:11,465
.

502
00:24:11,465 --> 00:24:16,480
I think was out like he's not
numbered, but he's one person of

503
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,405
color in a room with two white
people.

504
00:24:19,405 --> 00:24:21,349
She's already screaming.

505
00:24:21,349 --> 00:24:24,506
He's not screaming but she's
claiming oh my god, he's yelling

506
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,694
at me protect oh, she said it
very excitedly.

507
00:24:27,377 --> 00:24:28,442
Speaker 2: She said it very
excitedly.

508
00:24:28,461 --> 00:24:30,651
Speaker 1: He's yelling at me,
or whatever she was, she was

509
00:24:30,711 --> 00:24:33,461
excited like but like, but she
wasn't screaming, but she was

510
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,482
like he's yelling at me.

511
00:24:34,482 --> 00:24:37,788
And then in the office there
was the other piece that I don't

512
00:24:37,788 --> 00:24:42,494
know if you remember, but he
was talking, he was frustrated,

513
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,205
his volume was not loud I don't
really think that anyone else in

514
00:24:49,205 --> 00:24:52,032
other offices would be able to
clearly hear what he's saying.

515
00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:58,320
But the guy Jim, jeff or
whatever tells him to stop

516
00:24:58,361 --> 00:25:02,809
yelling and then he's like I'm
not yelling and he goes.

517
00:25:02,809 --> 00:25:08,488
Well, you need to lower your
energy energy and that is.

518
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,914
that's a microaggression in and
of itself.

519
00:25:10,914 --> 00:25:13,740
You should not like telling a
person of color when you're the

520
00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:16,144
only one, like when when there's
only other white people in the

521
00:25:16,183 --> 00:25:21,930
room that they're yelling, that
they're attacking, that they're

522
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:26,255
being aggressive when they're
not, is in itself, a little bit

523
00:25:26,295 --> 00:25:27,777
of a racist act.

524
00:25:27,777 --> 00:25:30,670
So now, yeah, I understand what
you're saying.

525
00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:34,082
There's a lot of other serious
things happening, but these are

526
00:25:34,102 --> 00:25:36,948
the reasons why DEI trainings
and shit happen.

527
00:25:36,948 --> 00:25:42,301
Like, like this is why because
now, as we're going to see, this

528
00:25:42,301 --> 00:25:47,231
is escalating the situation,
because what I'm feeling is that

529
00:25:47,231 --> 00:25:51,403
JJ is hearing these things and
he even I don't know if it was

530
00:25:51,442 --> 00:25:54,644
in the same video or a different
video, but at the end he does

531
00:25:54,704 --> 00:25:58,724
do an update and he makes fun of
that line Like the I'm going to

532
00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:00,330
lower my energy.

533
00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:03,088
Speaker 2: I was thinking well
played.

534
00:26:03,088 --> 00:26:04,808
I was saying well played JJ.

535
00:26:04,808 --> 00:26:06,618
When he did that in his update.

536
00:26:06,618 --> 00:26:09,789
I was like that was really good
.

537
00:26:09,789 --> 00:26:12,147
Like I said, there will be a
link to the show in the show

538
00:26:12,188 --> 00:26:12,588
notes for this.

539
00:26:12,588 --> 00:26:16,740
So please, so you get what
we're talking about, maybe I'll

540
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,825
go in the front at the beginning
and I'll edit and I'll say

541
00:26:19,605 --> 00:26:23,292
please stop listening to the
podcast for five minutes or 40

542
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:24,315
minutes or however long it is.

543
00:26:24,315 --> 00:26:27,645
Watch this video and then come
back so you have the pre-work.

544
00:26:28,401 --> 00:26:29,685
Speaker 1: This is pre-work for
the discussion.

545
00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:32,486
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had a ton of
views.

546
00:26:33,048 --> 00:26:33,328
Speaker 1: I do.

547
00:26:33,328 --> 00:26:37,844
I do believe there is like some
racist undertones there,

548
00:26:37,884 --> 00:26:39,450
whether they knew it or not, and
like that's, I think, the whole

549
00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:41,277
point of like these.

550
00:26:41,277 --> 00:26:43,685
These are like specific
trainings that we have to do,

551
00:26:43,746 --> 00:26:46,597
that, that certain cultures and
and they're gonna have

552
00:26:46,657 --> 00:26:47,780
sensitivity to it.

553
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:55,012
So maybe you shouldn't, jeff,
put gas on the fire and be like

554
00:26:55,913 --> 00:26:56,515
like I don't know.

555
00:26:56,515 --> 00:27:00,161
And then the fact that he
called him just a bartender, and

556
00:27:00,161 --> 00:27:04,306
then I think everything there's
definitely whether it's racial,

557
00:27:04,306 --> 00:27:07,902
whether it's just the fact that
he's a bartender, whether they

558
00:27:07,942 --> 00:27:10,490
think that he's disposable
because he's just a bartender,

559
00:27:10,921 --> 00:27:14,969
like there's a lot of things
here that are just not good.

560
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:18,223
Speaker 2: And I, yeah, and I, I
got a lot of your points and I.

561
00:27:18,223 --> 00:27:22,061
The microaggressions, yes, I'll
say they're there as well.

562
00:27:22,061 --> 00:27:27,751
But yeah, jeff, he, he threw a
couple of gallons of gas in

563
00:27:27,791 --> 00:27:28,373
separate times.

564
00:27:28,373 --> 00:27:30,963
So the first thing was you're
just a bartender.

565
00:27:30,963 --> 00:27:36,803
Then that's when JJ starts
reacting, that's it, and and

566
00:27:36,843 --> 00:27:39,048
then he starts getting.

567
00:27:39,048 --> 00:27:42,444
He gets louder, he gets much
more vocal and he's.

568
00:27:42,444 --> 00:27:46,406
He said I don't remember who
drops the F bomb first.

569
00:27:46,406 --> 00:27:47,390
I kind of think it was JJ.

570
00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:48,483
I don't know, don't put me on
that.

571
00:27:49,621 --> 00:27:52,229
And then Jeff goes, get the fuck
out of my office.

572
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,007
Speaker 1: Get out of my office
and pack your bags.

573
00:27:55,749 --> 00:28:00,349
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he and he,
and at that point, regardless,

574
00:28:00,871 --> 00:28:01,972
you got to get out of the office
.

575
00:28:01,972 --> 00:28:04,748
And yeah, but they, but Jeff
doesn't.

576
00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:08,009
Jeff continues the conversation
for some time after that.

577
00:28:08,009 --> 00:28:10,406
If you're, if you told him to
get the fuck out of my office

578
00:28:10,487 --> 00:28:13,922
and you continue the
conversation, you're inviting

579
00:28:14,042 --> 00:28:15,465
anything that follows after 're?

580
00:28:15,465 --> 00:28:16,809
It's just you're inviting it.

581
00:28:16,809 --> 00:28:20,599
So he was not managing the
situation well at all.

582
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:26,330
But the only defense I'll say
for j or jeff is he, robin

583
00:28:26,411 --> 00:28:31,767
wasn't completely blindsided in
this, jeff was, and I don't know

584
00:28:31,767 --> 00:28:31,767
.

585
00:28:31,767 --> 00:28:34,211
But yeah, if you're going to
say get the fuck out of my

586
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:36,883
office, fine, say get the fuck
out of my office, I don't if

587
00:28:37,463 --> 00:28:38,286
sometimes you need to.

588
00:28:38,286 --> 00:28:43,063
But once you say that they're
dead to you, you don't continue

589
00:28:43,103 --> 00:28:43,845
the conversation.

590
00:28:43,845 --> 00:28:47,833
And if you need them to leave,
you can say I need you to leave

591
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,948
or I'm going to call security,
but don't play there.

592
00:28:50,948 --> 00:28:53,461
If that's the stand you're
going to take, you take that

593
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,863
stand he by saying get the fuck
out of my office.

594
00:28:54,863 --> 00:28:55,805
That's the standard we're going
to take.

595
00:28:55,805 --> 00:28:57,287
You take that stand he, he by
saying get the fuck out of my

596
00:28:57,326 --> 00:29:00,872
office, that's your Hill, you're
about to die on, and by

597
00:29:00,912 --> 00:29:02,694
continuing it you're.

598
00:29:02,694 --> 00:29:05,313
You're not doing yourself any
favor.

599
00:29:05,313 --> 00:29:08,026
I don't think that, so I'll let
you continue.

600
00:29:08,026 --> 00:29:09,806
You're doing a better job than
I can with this.

601
00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:18,923
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then they go
out of the office.

602
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:20,588
Now they're having a very loud
discussion in like the.

603
00:29:20,588 --> 00:29:21,511
I don't know where the copy
machine is.

604
00:29:21,531 --> 00:29:22,796
Where there's other offices
around and the way I don't know

605
00:29:22,816 --> 00:29:27,288
if you noticed, but the weird
part was is like at this point I

606
00:29:27,288 --> 00:29:29,373
think jj's like, well, I'm
getting fired.

607
00:29:29,373 --> 00:29:32,067
So this is my moment, this is
my.

608
00:29:32,067 --> 00:29:33,050
What is that movie?

609
00:29:33,050 --> 00:29:35,680
Shit, you're gonna have to edit
that what.

610
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,594
It was like the stoner movie
and he's like fuck you, fuck you

611
00:29:41,594 --> 00:29:46,645
, fuck you, you're cool, fuck
you anyway oh gosh, yeah, I

612
00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:48,951
forget which one that is yeah, I
know what you're saying.

613
00:29:48,971 --> 00:29:53,511
I remembered it so anyway, you
could edit that out, but this is

614
00:29:53,511 --> 00:29:56,901
his moment to just basically
light everything on fire and say

615
00:29:56,901 --> 00:30:00,288
like screw you, screw you,
you're cool.

616
00:30:00,288 --> 00:30:03,074
And he basically just let it
loose about how.

617
00:30:03,074 --> 00:30:08,132
Oh, and I did forget to mention
that jj is a us citizen, so at

618
00:30:08,192 --> 00:30:12,583
this point, right, wrong or
indifferent, he's using this as

619
00:30:12,624 --> 00:30:16,741
an opportunity to what he
believes is to stand up for the

620
00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:17,502
jay ones.

621
00:30:17,502 --> 00:30:22,471
And they're like working, like
just kind of their working

622
00:30:22,511 --> 00:30:25,684
conditions and and her
leadership style and how she's

623
00:30:25,744 --> 00:30:26,847
rude and disrespectful.

624
00:30:26,847 --> 00:30:28,853
So that goes on for a little
bit.

625
00:30:29,339 --> 00:30:32,064
And then I thought this was
really weird and kind of cringy

626
00:30:32,084 --> 00:30:33,384
because we were talking about it
before.

627
00:30:33,384 --> 00:30:37,911
Like again, it's two white
people standing across from one

628
00:30:37,931 --> 00:30:42,621
person of color and he like
turns to her and like kind of

629
00:30:42,681 --> 00:30:46,250
pats her on the shoulder like
they're there, and he says you

630
00:30:46,289 --> 00:30:48,844
shouldn't be talking to, you
shouldn't be hearing this, you

631
00:30:48,903 --> 00:30:50,548
shouldn't be talking to her like
this.

632
00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:53,722
And I was like that's just
weird.

633
00:30:53,722 --> 00:30:57,162
Like you should have excused
her from the get-go, like you

634
00:30:57,201 --> 00:30:59,347
should have just kicked her out
of the office.

635
00:30:59,347 --> 00:31:02,221
Like now you're gonna make a
show like they're there.

636
00:31:02,221 --> 00:31:03,845
They're there, my sweet little
lamb.

637
00:31:03,845 --> 00:31:08,401
Like you should not hear this
and you know, and before then.

638
00:31:08,741 --> 00:31:12,508
Speaker 2: So robin leaves the
well jj's, he's decided the

639
00:31:12,548 --> 00:31:14,932
bridge is going down and he's
like you're.

640
00:31:14,932 --> 00:31:17,623
He's telling Robin, you're a
piece of shit, you know, he's

641
00:31:17,702 --> 00:31:22,769
going way off on her and I guess
she gets up on her own and

642
00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:30,480
leaves the office and then she
hasn't said a word with this and

643
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:39,584
I don't remember how she came
back and I don't remember how

644
00:31:39,604 --> 00:31:39,984
she came back.

645
00:31:39,984 --> 00:31:41,210
But then Jeff and her leave
together, together.

646
00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:42,454
It was like something along the
lines and I could be way off

647
00:31:42,474 --> 00:31:45,002
that, oh, if you're not gonna
leave, we'll take they both,

648
00:31:45,063 --> 00:31:48,210
jeff and Robin leave into that
little common area with a copier

649
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:52,585
and a water cooler and things,
and it's still going on and yeah

650
00:31:52,585 --> 00:31:57,554
, he's, he's, he's anyways, he's
just going on.

651
00:31:57,554 --> 00:32:00,730
But I gave back to some
critiques on Robin and Jeff.

652
00:32:00,730 --> 00:32:03,967
I'm going to give my critiques
now on a little bit more.

653
00:32:03,967 --> 00:32:05,109
On JJ.

654
00:32:05,109 --> 00:32:06,192
I talked about it.

655
00:32:06,192 --> 00:32:08,964
It's not harassment, you just
didn't like they're knocking on

656
00:32:08,984 --> 00:32:12,348
the door and he says you can't
go knocking on people's doors.

657
00:32:12,348 --> 00:32:13,441
That's not how you can.

658
00:32:13,861 --> 00:32:16,201
And in a lot of these facilities
and, like I said, one of the

659
00:32:16,221 --> 00:32:20,544
laws I knew did change with J-1s
, where in the Outer Banks of

660
00:32:20,584 --> 00:32:24,645
North Carolina the residents
host families and they charge

661
00:32:24,665 --> 00:32:25,705
these kids rent.

662
00:32:25,705 --> 00:32:29,627
I say kids, the students rent
for living in the house.

663
00:32:29,627 --> 00:32:35,230
That changed where the company
that was sponsoring their visa

664
00:32:35,270 --> 00:32:37,471
had to provide housing for them.

665
00:32:37,471 --> 00:32:41,554
They could charge rent for the
housing if they wanted to Some

666
00:32:41,594 --> 00:32:44,935
did, some didn't but they
couldn't put them up in a host

667
00:32:44,976 --> 00:32:45,695
family any longer.

668
00:32:45,695 --> 00:32:46,435
That was another thing.

669
00:32:46,435 --> 00:32:50,938
But a lot of places before had
these dormitories for the J-1

670
00:32:50,958 --> 00:32:53,807
students, a lot of the big
resorts and things like that.

671
00:32:53,807 --> 00:32:55,902
So it's probably on the
property there that they're

672
00:32:55,942 --> 00:32:58,669
living, I'm imagining, or if not
, right across the street for it

673
00:32:58,669 --> 00:32:59,920
, so you can do it.

674
00:33:00,382 --> 00:33:02,226
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like I
don't know what the laws are,

675
00:33:02,346 --> 00:33:05,621
Like that's not my like, I don't
know what you can and can't do.

676
00:33:05,621 --> 00:33:09,185
I'm going to assume there's
probably something and some kind

677
00:33:09,185 --> 00:33:13,250
of a housing agreement that
says like there's stuff there

678
00:33:13,332 --> 00:33:15,374
that they can, maybe not.

679
00:33:15,374 --> 00:33:15,734
I don't know.

680
00:33:15,734 --> 00:33:18,484
I'm going to assume there's a
housing agreement that has to be

681
00:33:18,484 --> 00:33:20,369
signed yeah, they're, they're
at least.

682
00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:22,323
Speaker 2: Let's just say from
my experience there should be

683
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:22,623
one.

684
00:33:22,623 --> 00:33:25,809
That's a whole nother story.

685
00:33:25,809 --> 00:33:29,462
But then the one thing jj
complained about the managers

686
00:33:29,522 --> 00:33:32,188
are telling people to get up,
get out, out, get moving.

687
00:33:32,188 --> 00:33:36,080
I wrote this down, clock in,
clock out, and I put that's

688
00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:38,366
called managing, that's called
managing.

689
00:33:38,366 --> 00:33:40,332
That is true, that is true.

690
00:33:41,381 --> 00:33:45,209
One of the things that and it
wasn't unique to J1s, actually

691
00:33:45,249 --> 00:33:49,386
the one that started this that
our old timekeeping system that

692
00:33:49,406 --> 00:33:49,909
they use.

693
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:53,402
After seven minutes you were
paying 15 minute increments.

694
00:33:53,402 --> 00:33:54,772
So after seven minutes you got
another 15 minute increments.

695
00:33:54,772 --> 00:33:56,182
So after seven minutes you got
another 15.

696
00:33:56,182 --> 00:33:59,875
So people were clocking in
eight minutes early, so they

697
00:33:59,896 --> 00:34:00,799
would get 15 minutes.

698
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:06,271
And they hung out in the room
where the time clocks were until

699
00:34:06,271 --> 00:34:09,159
seven after to clock.

700
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,541
They weren't doing any work.

701
00:34:10,541 --> 00:34:12,726
They're waiting for the clock
to say seven after, so they can

702
00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:14,972
clock out and get that extra 15
minutes.

703
00:34:14,972 --> 00:34:20,188
And we actually started being
in the room where you clock in

704
00:34:20,228 --> 00:34:20,789
and clock out.

705
00:34:20,789 --> 00:34:25,242
You're done, you're clocking
out now Because imagine 200

706
00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:29,630
people not 200 at shift, but 100
plus people at shift each

707
00:34:29,710 --> 00:34:32,954
taking, getting another 15
minutes of under time just by

708
00:34:33,034 --> 00:34:33,536
sitting there.

709
00:34:34,483 --> 00:34:36,202
No, you're not doing that,
you're not just sitting there

710
00:34:36,222 --> 00:34:37,005
waiting for the clock.

711
00:34:37,005 --> 00:34:39,963
So I don't know exactly what
context is, but I, from my

712
00:34:40,023 --> 00:34:43,275
experience, I can see that
happening get out, get moving,

713
00:34:43,355 --> 00:34:44,579
clock in, clock out, whatever.

714
00:34:44,579 --> 00:34:47,166
I can see that yeah, I'm gonna.

715
00:34:47,226 --> 00:34:49,391
Speaker 1: I'm reading between
the lines with what he's saying.

716
00:34:49,471 --> 00:34:53,869
Speaker 2: I don't, I'm like
it's probably worse than that I

717
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:55,092
think it's probably worse than
that.

718
00:34:55,211 --> 00:34:58,690
Speaker 1: I think, again, this
is just my interpretation of a

719
00:34:58,789 --> 00:35:00,496
story, like of a recording.

720
00:35:00,496 --> 00:35:04,204
We don't have any more context,
but there there just seems to

721
00:35:04,264 --> 00:35:10,653
be this feeling of they're not
like respect, like the people

722
00:35:10,715 --> 00:35:14,132
who work there are not seen or
respected really, and they, they

723
00:35:14,132 --> 00:35:17,103
feel that that's what I'm
getting, and I think that it's

724
00:35:17,143 --> 00:35:20,121
especially from Robin, who
probably is just like the clock

725
00:35:20,202 --> 00:35:25,009
in, clock out queen, but I don't
know if she's like like I say I

726
00:35:25,009 --> 00:35:27,603
don't get, I don't, I'm not
getting a warm and fuzzy feeling

727
00:35:27,603 --> 00:35:28,826
from the two of these.

728
00:35:29,708 --> 00:35:31,050
Speaker 2: No, definitely I'm
not.

729
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:38,061
Speaker 1: And I, oh, go ahead,
oh, no, go you.

730
00:35:38,061 --> 00:35:39,563
No, I was just saying like I
don't get the warm and fuzzy

731
00:35:39,623 --> 00:35:39,864
feeling.

732
00:35:39,864 --> 00:35:43,492
I can definitely understand
that they're like there probably

733
00:35:43,492 --> 00:35:48,306
is some kind of a cultural
difference and I'm not.

734
00:35:48,306 --> 00:35:53,172
I'm gonna say that robin
probably doesn't have like the

735
00:35:53,233 --> 00:35:58,641
emotional EQ to pick up on that
and I'm also going to say like

736
00:35:58,701 --> 00:36:01,963
I'm saying everyone's at fault,
I'm saying the whole lot of them

737
00:36:01,963 --> 00:36:06,344
are all at fault, but everybody
everyone, everyone at the

738
00:36:06,385 --> 00:36:06,646
beginning.

739
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,068
Speaker 2: Everybody triggered
me within five minutes of

740
00:36:09,108 --> 00:36:09,630
watching this.

741
00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:11,324
What I was going to say, though
?

742
00:36:11,324 --> 00:36:14,179
If obviously he's just a
bartender.

743
00:36:14,179 --> 00:36:16,989
So this is in a restaurant bar
type situation.

744
00:36:16,989 --> 00:36:22,128
From my experience I worked my
way through college in the back

745
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:25,764
of the house in restaurants she
seemed like she might have been

746
00:36:25,804 --> 00:36:27,710
a pretty good, nice manager.

747
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:32,289
The hospitality and restaurant
industry is not necessarily

748
00:36:32,349 --> 00:36:35,621
known for having the greatest
managers, and restaurant

749
00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:36,923
industry is not necessarily
known for having the greatest

750
00:36:36,943 --> 00:36:37,103
managers.

751
00:36:37,103 --> 00:36:38,666
At least in my experience of
working my way through high

752
00:36:38,686 --> 00:36:42,704
school and college and in
restaurants getting yelled and

753
00:36:42,744 --> 00:36:42,985
screamed.

754
00:36:42,985 --> 00:36:46,315
You think having someone like
Gordon Ramsay call you a donkey

755
00:36:46,454 --> 00:36:49,791
or whatever he's calling people,
that would have been a dream.

756
00:36:49,791 --> 00:36:54,913
At some of the places I worked,
I saw dishes being thrown.

757
00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:56,777
I would people getting berated.

758
00:36:56,777 --> 00:37:01,271
I saw, yeah, restaurants I
don't think are ever going to be

759
00:37:01,271 --> 00:37:07,186
a whatever you call it a uh,
demonstration of best practices,

760
00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:08,088
of management.

761
00:37:08,088 --> 00:37:09,052
You won't.

762
00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:11,378
I don't think there's gonna be
too many of those out there.

763
00:37:11,378 --> 00:37:15,077
I'm sure there's exceptions to
the rule, but yeah, see that's

764
00:37:15,117 --> 00:37:15,378
funny.

765
00:37:15,438 --> 00:37:17,865
Speaker 1: My experience of
working in a restaurant was like

766
00:37:17,865 --> 00:37:20,815
I had I always had awesome
managers, because the managers

767
00:37:20,835 --> 00:37:24,670
were just as dysfunctional as us
, like that's always been.

768
00:37:24,670 --> 00:37:28,822
But I will say, like I do
remember I I had to like put a

769
00:37:28,862 --> 00:37:31,612
bunch of appetizer plates on my
table before I left for the day.

770
00:37:31,612 --> 00:37:33,838
That was like one of the things
you had to do before your lunch

771
00:37:33,838 --> 00:37:36,534
shift was over and you had to
stack them up at the table for

772
00:37:36,554 --> 00:37:39,481
the the next shift and I had a
big stack of them and they all

773
00:37:39,541 --> 00:37:43,813
slipped and about like 20 some
Like plates Like just dropped

774
00:37:43,873 --> 00:37:47,344
out of the floor, like just
broke, and my manager walked

775
00:37:47,385 --> 00:37:51,500
back there and he reamed me out
for it.

776
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:52,262
He's like what?

777
00:37:52,262 --> 00:37:54,077
Like literally he was throwing
F-bombs.

778
00:37:54,077 --> 00:37:55,597
Like what the fuck are you
doing?

779
00:37:55,597 --> 00:37:57,559
Like what the fuck is wrong
with you?

780
00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:58,719
Do you know how much my head is
?

781
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:02,603
Speaker 2: uh, and I was just
like shot like the back of house

782
00:38:02,603 --> 00:38:05,905
people applaud or do something
because oh yeah people applaud

783
00:38:05,925 --> 00:38:09,487
when the dishes are broken, like
oppa, and then back at the

784
00:38:09,527 --> 00:38:11,777
house we would applaud and we so
.

785
00:38:11,777 --> 00:38:14,768
Not only would the the front of
the house person who dropped

786
00:38:14,849 --> 00:38:18,295
whatever and broke it get yelled
out by the manager, but the

787
00:38:18,356 --> 00:38:19,599
back of the house people got it
too.

788
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,884
Is we're sitting there
applauding and doing things like

789
00:38:21,884 --> 00:38:22,110
that?

790
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:26,159
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was yeah
, but but then later in the

791
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,594
shift I went to go like check
out and I was so timid because I

792
00:38:29,594 --> 00:38:32,003
was so afraid, because I had
never had anyone.

793
00:38:32,003 --> 00:38:34,632
I literally had never anyone
outside of my parents at this

794
00:38:34,693 --> 00:38:37,458
point in my life like scream
actually to this day, like I

795
00:38:37,478 --> 00:38:40,003
don't think anyone's really
screamed at me, but like your,

796
00:38:40,324 --> 00:38:43,391
your manager's screaming at you
and he was just like counting my

797
00:38:43,391 --> 00:38:48,081
money and he like just kind of
made a stupid joke and then we

798
00:38:48,161 --> 00:38:51,434
laughed and then it was like
over and it's very much a

799
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:54,802
feeling of like when you're in
the trenches, when it's busy,

800
00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:58,519
when shit's hitting the fan, you
may like scream and yell at

801
00:38:58,559 --> 00:38:58,981
each other.

802
00:38:58,981 --> 00:39:01,817
It's like a hockey fight, but
at the end of the day, like

803
00:39:02,077 --> 00:39:05,251
you're a team and you go and
have a drink and it's all fine

804
00:39:05,773 --> 00:39:10,061
and that's super toxic in
hindsight but it was fun, it's

805
00:39:10,101 --> 00:39:10,302
fine.

806
00:39:10,722 --> 00:39:11,831
Speaker 2: I'm a better person
for it.

807
00:39:11,831 --> 00:39:17,103
Yeah, I was just thinking about
my restaurant days and thinking

808
00:39:17,103 --> 00:39:19,990
maybe I would have liked having
a Robin Because, like I said,

809
00:39:20,773 --> 00:39:23,518
yeah, not going to be a case
study of good management in too

810
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:24,179
many restaurants.

811
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:25,001
Speaker 1: No, she's not.

812
00:39:25,001 --> 00:39:25,943
She's not great.

813
00:39:25,943 --> 00:39:32,052
I think there's just like a lot
of layers to this and of course

814
00:39:32,052 --> 00:39:34,440
, like I said before, we're only
seeing one side.

815
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,246
But if I was a betting person,
I don't think that what he's

816
00:39:39,346 --> 00:39:41,371
saying about Robin is false.

817
00:39:42,273 --> 00:39:44,398
Speaker 2: No, I would put money
.

818
00:39:44,398 --> 00:39:44,980
That it's true.

819
00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:46,181
She went banged on the door.

820
00:39:46,181 --> 00:39:50,557
Hey, both you and your partner
or your roommate are sick today.

821
00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:52,001
Yeah right, Get your asses in
here.

822
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:57,577
Speaker 1: And, by the way, as
someone who enjoys a cruise I'm

823
00:39:57,597 --> 00:40:00,141
saying this specifically because
I think it's the carnival is

824
00:40:00,161 --> 00:40:01,784
the mother company of this
resort.

825
00:40:01,784 --> 00:40:09,719
Don't send your employees out
sick, because I, as a patron who

826
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,824
, if I'm going on a cruise to be
very blunt who is paid like a

827
00:40:12,864 --> 00:40:16,032
couple thousand dollars on a
cruise, I don't want to come

828
00:40:16,052 --> 00:40:18,436
back with some weird neurovirus
shit.

829
00:40:18,436 --> 00:40:25,077
If you're sick and you're in
the service industry, stay away

830
00:40:25,197 --> 00:40:28,902
and keep people away from
customers, because that's my

831
00:40:29,023 --> 00:40:30,090
biggest pet peeve.

832
00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:34,257
If someone is snotting and sick
, I don't want them touching my

833
00:40:34,356 --> 00:40:36,961
beverages, I don't want them
touching my food.

834
00:40:36,961 --> 00:40:39,284
I want you to go feel better.

835
00:40:39,284 --> 00:40:40,512
Just go feel better.

836
00:40:41,516 --> 00:40:44,083
Speaker 2: So this is sort of
tying in.

837
00:40:44,083 --> 00:40:46,070
We were talking about
organizational development and

838
00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:48,458
organizational behavior
beforehand.

839
00:40:48,458 --> 00:40:53,253
This would be a case study of
organizational behavior on crack

840
00:40:53,253 --> 00:40:53,253
.

841
00:40:53,253 --> 00:40:58,164
But the last thing before we
move on the only job I ever

842
00:40:58,224 --> 00:40:58,945
walked out on.

843
00:40:58,945 --> 00:41:00,307
I worked at Lone Star
Restaurant.

844
00:41:00,307 --> 00:41:03,413
I actually worked there for
like five years and if you work

845
00:41:03,432 --> 00:41:05,331
in the back of the house, you
got these stars and after you

846
00:41:05,351 --> 00:41:08,137
got like nine stars or whatever,
you got a green cap which puts

847
00:41:08,157 --> 00:41:10,842
you sort of on the pseudo
management track.

848
00:41:10,842 --> 00:41:12,898
So I got my green cap there.

849
00:41:12,898 --> 00:41:15,871
It means you can operate every
station, you're clean, you're

850
00:41:15,911 --> 00:41:17,211
fast, you'reous, whatever.

851
00:41:17,211 --> 00:41:20,193
The criteria is to get each of
those little stars.

852
00:41:20,193 --> 00:41:21,815
And I got my green cap.

853
00:41:21,815 --> 00:41:25,536
And then the general manager
who, up to that point, liked me,

854
00:41:25,536 --> 00:41:29,259
she brings me in and, okay,
being a green pack, it puts you

855
00:41:29,278 --> 00:41:30,719
on the track for management.

856
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,840
You can maybe be, and she's
putting all this.

857
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:36,742
I'm like, well, I'm about to
graduate from college and I said

858
00:41:36,742 --> 00:41:39,463
restaurants are working my way
through college, I'm not really

859
00:41:39,603 --> 00:41:44,706
going to be pursuing a career in
the restaurant industry and

860
00:41:44,766 --> 00:41:46,967
from then everything changed.

861
00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:56,833
But this is the only job I
walked out on, and not to return

862
00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:57,355
or walked out on period.

863
00:41:57,355 --> 00:42:01,610
But so the day before, a few
days earlier, the manager the

864
00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:05,358
kitchen manager asked me to pick
up a shift and, being a college

865
00:42:05,358 --> 00:42:06,101
kid, I wanted money.

866
00:42:06,101 --> 00:42:09,896
So, yes, I picked up a shift
and it might've been for the

867
00:42:09,956 --> 00:42:10,356
next day.

868
00:42:10,356 --> 00:42:16,213
And then that next day I I got
hit with something and I was I

869
00:42:16,233 --> 00:42:20,481
was legitimately sick and I
called and I called out with

870
00:42:20,521 --> 00:42:24,478
plenty of time and this illness
hit me.

871
00:42:24,478 --> 00:42:27,757
I was at the mall buying new
shoes to go to work in, because

872
00:42:27,818 --> 00:42:29,322
mine, you know, if you're
working in the back house,

873
00:42:29,409 --> 00:42:32,771
grease really breaks down the
rubber soles of a shoe, so

874
00:42:32,811 --> 00:42:34,358
you're going through shoes
regularly.

875
00:42:34,358 --> 00:42:38,519
So I was at the mall getting
some new shoes and I got hit

876
00:42:38,579 --> 00:42:39,601
with something awful.

877
00:42:39,601 --> 00:42:42,577
Anyways, I called out with no
cell phones in the early

878
00:42:42,657 --> 00:42:45,813
nineties, or that might've been
even the late early nineties,

879
00:42:45,873 --> 00:42:46,614
yeah, early nineties.

880
00:42:47,076 --> 00:42:51,954
I called out from work and when
I got back and then I went in

881
00:42:52,014 --> 00:42:54,380
the next day for my next shift,
it was one of those things that

882
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:58,900
comes, it hits you like a ton of
bricks and then the next day

883
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,117
you're fine, went in and that
manager is reaming me and says

884
00:43:02,137 --> 00:43:04,161
you just, you accepted this day
off.

885
00:43:04,161 --> 00:43:06,838
I said you accepted the shift
and dah, dah, dah dah.

886
00:43:06,838 --> 00:43:09,137
This is the general manager,
not the kitchen manager.

887
00:43:09,137 --> 00:43:11,969
The kitchen manager was being
silent through all this and I

888
00:43:11,989 --> 00:43:12,291
was like.

889
00:43:12,291 --> 00:43:14,634
I was like, yeah, I don't know
what hit me, it just hit me hard

890
00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:14,634
.

891
00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:15,456
I know what hit me, it just hit
me hard.

892
00:43:15,476 --> 00:43:17,398
I said I couldn't come to work,
I wasn't going to be able to.

893
00:43:17,398 --> 00:43:18,800
And she just out of me.

894
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,983
I said I said really.

895
00:43:19,983 --> 00:43:21,184
I said this is the first time
I've.

896
00:43:21,184 --> 00:43:28,112
I said I've never been late,
I've never missed a shift.

897
00:43:28,112 --> 00:43:28,693
I've been here for years.

898
00:43:28,693 --> 00:43:30,315
And this is what you're going
to say to me.

899
00:43:30,315 --> 00:43:31,896
Oh no, you just have such a bad
attitude.

900
00:43:31,896 --> 00:43:33,018
I'm like okay, bye.

901
00:43:33,018 --> 00:43:35,300
And I just, I just, that was,
if Lone Star had not been mean

902
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,021
to me, they'd still be in
business today.

903
00:43:40,525 --> 00:43:41,007
Speaker 1: Take that.

904
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:47,952
Speaker 2: So I think we
basically he gets fired and then

905
00:43:47,952 --> 00:43:51,398
JJ asks oh, are you going to
take me back to Anchorage or am

906
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,222
I going to have to do that on my
own?

907
00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:54,304
Speaker 1: That was funny.

908
00:43:55,110 --> 00:43:56,757
Speaker 2: I thought that was
pretty funny.

909
00:43:56,757 --> 00:44:02,157
Other comments I had on the
host she's, she both says these

910
00:44:02,179 --> 00:44:04,175
things are laws and then she
goes but I don't, I don't know,

911
00:44:04,215 --> 00:44:04,516
I don't know.

912
00:44:04,516 --> 00:44:06,478
I'm not a lawyer or anything
like that, I'm not a lawyer.

913
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:10,440
Like legally, after three days
you can ask for a doctor's note.

914
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,137
You can ask for a doctor's note
on day one.

915
00:44:12,137 --> 00:44:12,590
It's there's no.

916
00:44:12,590 --> 00:44:13,630
At least in any state I've
worked in not needed.

917
00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:16,432
At least in any state I've
worked in, not needed.

918
00:44:16,432 --> 00:44:18,894
But basically they can't fight
back because they'll get

919
00:44:18,954 --> 00:44:19,614
deported.

920
00:44:19,614 --> 00:44:24,358
She said no, these people I
hated when we brought in so many

921
00:44:24,358 --> 00:44:25,239
J-1s.

922
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,641
They would come in we would
sponsor a thing, their J-1, and

923
00:44:29,682 --> 00:44:33,324
then they would leave us and go
work at Walmart and they're free

924
00:44:33,324 --> 00:44:33,905
to do that.

925
00:44:33,905 --> 00:44:36,347
They're not indentured servants
or anything like that.

926
00:44:42,730 --> 00:44:44,014
Speaker 1: And she goes on
talking about it's late.

927
00:44:44,034 --> 00:44:45,338
Speaker 2: I didn't I I honestly
don't know how anything about

928
00:44:45,358 --> 00:44:47,043
j1's work, so that was that was
interesting to me.

929
00:44:47,043 --> 00:44:47,925
This is lawsuit territory.

930
00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:48,748
I'd like to have her explain
that.

931
00:44:48,748 --> 00:44:51,554
And it's anyways that there
were some things I wrote on the

932
00:44:51,594 --> 00:44:51,896
host.

933
00:44:51,896 --> 00:44:55,610
But the comments, the host goes
through some of these comments

934
00:44:56,693 --> 00:44:58,436
and that that's you know.

935
00:44:58,436 --> 00:45:03,172
Just like I don't read comments
on YouTube videos, I don't read

936
00:45:03,172 --> 00:45:04,958
comments on TikTok.

937
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,514
Speaker 1: That's where the fun
is, warren, I know.

938
00:45:07,675 --> 00:45:09,900
Speaker 2: I know I'll be
sitting there, my wife will be

939
00:45:09,942 --> 00:45:10,081
playing.

940
00:45:10,081 --> 00:45:12,898
It sounds like the same TikTok
thing a million times.

941
00:45:12,898 --> 00:45:14,938
Oh, I'm just reading the
comments as it's going through

942
00:45:15,490 --> 00:45:19,672
and I'm like, oh, you know, here
I am, I'm swoop, swoop, next,

943
00:45:19,891 --> 00:45:20,534
next, next.

944
00:45:20,534 --> 00:45:23,079
I don't, unless it's something
I'm really interested in now,

945
00:45:23,521 --> 00:45:25,253
but one of the comments you have
a case.

946
00:45:25,253 --> 00:45:27,483
Really, what case does she have
?

947
00:45:27,483 --> 00:45:30,192
And then someone put wrongful
termination, discrimination,

948
00:45:30,211 --> 00:45:31,574
well, wrongful termination.

949
00:45:31,675 --> 00:45:35,123
Once you start, regardless of
what jeff did, once you start

950
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:36,012
saying f?

951
00:45:36,012 --> 00:45:40,322
You and calling her a piece of
shit and doing this, you're not

952
00:45:40,369 --> 00:45:41,371
going to have much of a case.

953
00:45:41,371 --> 00:45:45,963
And then this is one of the
commenters put I am HR and this

954
00:45:46,023 --> 00:45:46,670
is illegal.

955
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:47,632
Get a lawyer.

956
00:45:47,632 --> 00:45:49,315
So you're going to get paid,
paid, paid.

957
00:45:49,315 --> 00:45:51,400
And I'm like, oh gosh.

958
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,402
Speaker 1: Everyone's a lawyer.

959
00:45:52,402 --> 00:45:56,932
Yeah, I think I would like like
I said, I don't have all the

960
00:45:57,012 --> 00:45:58,773
answers I wish I knew if there
was.

961
00:45:58,773 --> 00:46:01,456
Like I'm curious to know if
there is some kind of like a

962
00:46:01,496 --> 00:46:04,579
housing agreement for employees
that would either dictate like

963
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,682
what the managers can and can't
do, like it wouldn't you know if

964
00:46:09,682 --> 00:46:12,164
it's between these hours and
these hours, these are your

965
00:46:12,264 --> 00:46:14,507
hours Like is there anything
outlined like that?

966
00:46:14,507 --> 00:46:22,273
Outlined like that?

967
00:46:22,273 --> 00:46:23,474
I always think that's kind of
interesting.

968
00:46:23,474 --> 00:46:25,858
I've never worked somewhere
where I also had to live.

969
00:46:25,878 --> 00:46:27,081
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't
really know how that works

970
00:46:27,101 --> 00:46:27,242
either.

971
00:46:27,282 --> 00:46:28,523
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a
messy mess.

972
00:46:29,731 --> 00:46:32,996
Speaker 2: We sent people to
pick students up because they

973
00:46:33,036 --> 00:46:37,233
would have a shuttle van to pick
them up and sometimes the

974
00:46:37,273 --> 00:46:41,193
shuttle would be two hours
between rounds and so if they

975
00:46:41,233 --> 00:46:44,001
miss the shuttle or something,
sometimes a manager will get in

976
00:46:44,021 --> 00:46:47,597
their car and go pick them up at
their, their host family or

977
00:46:47,978 --> 00:46:52,355
actually the water park rented a
lot of like six unit, six three

978
00:46:52,355 --> 00:46:55,902
bedroom units where we put two
per unit, two per bedroom in

979
00:46:55,943 --> 00:46:58,496
there and things like we'd go
pick them up.

980
00:46:58,496 --> 00:46:59,760
I would never do it.

981
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,175
I was like no, I'm not doing
that, but they would go pick

982
00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:04,820
them up and things like that.

983
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:07,197
And so it happens.

984
00:47:07,197 --> 00:47:08,795
But I wanted to also talk.

985
00:47:08,795 --> 00:47:10,514
We talked a little bit about
the update.

986
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

987
00:47:13,469 --> 00:47:16,117
Speaker 2: According to JJ, Jeff
was let go.

988
00:47:17,018 --> 00:47:18,862
Speaker 1: Yeah, deservingly so
no crap.

989
00:47:19,971 --> 00:47:24,059
Speaker 2: Even if JJ, like I
said, I think there was a lot of

990
00:47:24,059 --> 00:47:28,438
baiting going on on JJ's part
he went in guns, loaded, camera

991
00:47:28,478 --> 00:47:33,900
rolling, he knew the reaction he
was going to get from Robin, if

992
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:35,123
not Robin and Jeff.

993
00:47:35,123 --> 00:47:39,119
He knew what they've already
set their MOs of, how they

994
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:40,202
operate and how they manage.

995
00:47:40,202 --> 00:47:42,518
So it was just easy pickings.

996
00:47:42,518 --> 00:47:43,331
And then.

997
00:47:43,331 --> 00:47:47,079
But he's now, he's working at
the same place as he is, and

998
00:47:47,141 --> 00:47:47,802
things like that.

999
00:47:47,802 --> 00:47:51,239
But apparently he said Jeff and
Robin have received death

1000
00:47:51,278 --> 00:47:51,579
threats.

1001
00:47:52,391 --> 00:47:53,797
Speaker 1: So please stop
sending those out.

1002
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:56,512
Speaker 2: I bet you there might
be a cease and desist order

1003
00:47:56,653 --> 00:47:57,313
involved in.

1004
00:47:57,313 --> 00:48:01,539
That is what that sounds like,
that he might have received a

1005
00:48:01,579 --> 00:48:05,724
cease and desist on that to tell
people to not.

1006
00:48:05,804 --> 00:48:07,590
Speaker 1: Don't touch the poop
we talk about the.

1007
00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:15,041
Internet, and then we move on
the final thing the host said.

1008
00:48:15,643 --> 00:48:18,967
Speaker 2: which one of the
final things she said that I

1009
00:48:19,748 --> 00:48:23,576
absolutely positively couldn't
disagree with more.

1010
00:48:23,576 --> 00:48:27,483
She says it would be such a
benefit to have an employee like

1011
00:48:27,483 --> 00:48:29,333
JJ who will speak up for
employees.

1012
00:48:29,333 --> 00:48:30,817
Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah,
dah, dah.

1013
00:48:30,817 --> 00:48:33,101
And I was like hell.

1014
00:48:33,101 --> 00:48:39,282
No, I would never hire JJ,
because we know he's going to be

1015
00:48:39,282 --> 00:48:42,114
there, he's going to stir up
shit, he's going to be recording

1016
00:48:42,114 --> 00:48:45,336
it, like no just a little bit
of a shit stir.

1017
00:48:45,978 --> 00:48:50,717
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that in
a person, though no, not as an

1018
00:48:50,777 --> 00:48:51,141
employee.

1019
00:48:51,141 --> 00:48:53,054
Not as an employee.

1020
00:48:53,454 --> 00:48:54,579
Speaker 2: As an employee, like
it as HR.

1021
00:48:54,909 --> 00:48:56,155
Speaker 1: I like a shit stir,
yeah, yeah, but yeah, a friend,

1022
00:48:56,356 --> 00:48:57,663
I like a shitster.

1023
00:48:57,684 --> 00:49:03,481
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
I couldn't disagree more.

1024
00:49:03,481 --> 00:49:04,875
Someone's going to hire him.

1025
00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:06,737
Is there going to like an
employee who will speak up?

1026
00:49:06,737 --> 00:49:10,056
No, there's a difference
between speaking up and stirring

1027
00:49:10,056 --> 00:49:10,418
the pot.

1028
00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:11,041
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1029
00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:13,976
Speaker 2: You know, like I said
, he's probably had a very

1030
00:49:14,036 --> 00:49:16,963
similar interaction with Robin,
if not Jeff.

1031
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:19,753
Speaker 1: That's why he wanted
to record it.

1032
00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:21,356
Speaker 2: That's what I'm
thinking Maybe not about banging

1033
00:49:21,356 --> 00:49:25,695
on the door, but some other
thing happened that he felt was

1034
00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:28,199
not right and was mishandled.

1035
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:31,311
And okay, here's the other
thing about my experience with

1036
00:49:31,351 --> 00:49:32,773
J1s.

1037
00:49:32,773 --> 00:49:38,059
I don't think that one year I
worked at the water park.

1038
00:49:38,059 --> 00:49:39,960
I heard the word unfair.

1039
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,224
More than that.

1040
00:49:43,224 --> 00:49:45,306
In the rest of my entire,
everything was unfair,

1041
00:49:45,871 --> 00:49:46,592
everything was unfair.

1042
00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:48,155
This is unfair, this is unfair.

1043
00:49:48,155 --> 00:49:52,442
I'm like you know, your
definition of unfair is not meet

1044
00:49:52,442 --> 00:49:59,851
my definition of unfair, of
unfair, and I'm not being an

1045
00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:01,096
a-hole by saying that just like,
oh, there's needs to be.

1046
00:50:01,115 --> 00:50:03,242
One person got on the radios and
I'm a manager, my radio is on

1047
00:50:03,282 --> 00:50:06,110
so I can hear what's going on,
and this is unfair, this is

1048
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:09,202
illegal and dangerous for me to
be, for only two people to be up

1049
00:50:09,202 --> 00:50:13,235
here, and like one person can
do it, why are you putting it on

1050
00:50:13,235 --> 00:50:16,443
the radio that this is illegal
and dangerous for him to be up

1051
00:50:16,489 --> 00:50:19,030
there by himself doing operating
this ride?

1052
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:20,653
No one person could do.

1053
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:22,759
I have done it and things like
that.

1054
00:50:22,759 --> 00:50:26,331
You know, I, it's just the, the
letterful, the.

1055
00:50:26,552 --> 00:50:32,119
Speaker 1: The definition of
unfair was, so everything was

1056
00:50:32,139 --> 00:50:36,572
unfair I think that I'm just
laughing because I was thinking

1057
00:50:36,612 --> 00:50:38,996
about what you were saying about
the hosts as well, about saying

1058
00:50:38,996 --> 00:50:40,440
things are illegal, things are
illegal.

1059
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,300
I don't know.

1060
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:45,340
I'm like I don't know if that's
a, that's a j1 thing or just a

1061
00:50:45,681 --> 00:50:47,467
people who think they know the
law thing.

1062
00:50:47,467 --> 00:50:51,697
Like, yeah, there is, there is
that piece of like like I'll

1063
00:50:51,717 --> 00:50:55,532
just go back to the, the
comments right, like these key

1064
00:50:55,652 --> 00:50:59,240
legal keyboard warriors who are
like I work in hr and I know

1065
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,054
everything in hr and you're
gonna get a payday and it's like

1066
00:51:02,054 --> 00:51:07,650
probably not, or like this is a
, this is illegal.

1067
00:51:08,251 --> 00:51:10,818
Unfortunately, a lot of things
aren't illegal, like things that

1068
00:51:10,818 --> 00:51:12,402
feel like they should be
illegal aren't.

1069
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:15,704
So, you know, oh, whatever, oh,
I think that's just because

1070
00:51:15,764 --> 00:51:20,090
I've worked with individuals who
are just, you know, they're

1071
00:51:20,231 --> 00:51:23,278
they're american citizens, but
they're also like, they know the

1072
00:51:23,278 --> 00:51:26,277
law on everything and they're
the ones who do exactly what aj

1073
00:51:26,478 --> 00:51:29,090
or jj does, and they're the ones
that are their brothers,

1074
00:51:29,269 --> 00:51:30,894
cousins, sisters.

1075
00:51:30,934 --> 00:51:34,847
Speaker 2: Brother is a lawyer
somewhere and they said or works

1076
00:51:34,847 --> 00:51:35,228
in hr.

1077
00:51:35,268 --> 00:51:38,565
Speaker 1: And they said this is
just like I could just tell you

1078
00:51:38,565 --> 00:51:42,702
like how many times my weird,
our old, our old neighbor that's

1079
00:51:42,702 --> 00:51:42,702
?

1080
00:51:42,702 --> 00:51:43,967
That's a story for another show
.

1081
00:51:43,967 --> 00:51:48,099
But how many times this woman
got fired from her jobs, like

1082
00:51:48,481 --> 00:51:52,833
terminated for performance,
right for performance, and she

1083
00:51:52,873 --> 00:51:53,313
knows it.

1084
00:51:53,313 --> 00:51:56,061
But it's never her fault, it's
always their fault and them

1085
00:51:56,101 --> 00:51:57,791
terminating her is going to be
illegal.

1086
00:51:57,791 --> 00:51:59,938
And we've been sitting there
like staring at her and being

1087
00:51:59,958 --> 00:52:02,697
like there's nothing.

1088
00:52:02,697 --> 00:52:04,295
You don't have a case like move
on.

1089
00:52:04,295 --> 00:52:06,934
And she'd be like so litigious,
like I'm going to get a lawyer,

1090
00:52:06,934 --> 00:52:10,775
and I'm like why don't you just
get a new job Like move on.

1091
00:52:12,018 --> 00:52:14,318
Speaker 2: Exactly that I.

1092
00:52:14,318 --> 00:52:14,878
I subscribe.

1093
00:52:14,878 --> 00:52:16,885
I have several news aggregators
.

1094
00:52:16,885 --> 00:52:21,278
I'm a news junkie for things I
like, but when the headline

1095
00:52:21,429 --> 00:52:25,001
starts like I'm an HR
professional and this, or I'm a

1096
00:52:25,152 --> 00:52:29,097
lawyer and this, that's like the
worst quick clickbait ever

1097
00:52:29,246 --> 00:52:32,394
because it's going to be
something completely stupid.

1098
00:52:32,394 --> 00:52:33,753
Something completely.

1099
00:52:33,753 --> 00:52:36,193
Those headlines just drive me
stupid.

1100
00:52:36,193 --> 00:52:38,195
Something completely, those
headlines just drive me.

1101
00:52:38,195 --> 00:52:42,554
I'm a recruiter and this is the
number one way to get a job.

1102
00:52:42,554 --> 00:52:43,137
No, it's not.

1103
00:52:44,592 --> 00:52:45,876
Speaker 1: HR hates this one
trick.

1104
00:52:47,291 --> 00:52:48,717
Speaker 2: Here's the trick
that'll get you a job.

1105
00:52:48,717 --> 00:52:52,280
Here's how to beat the AI in
the recruiting system.

1106
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,692
We're going long, but I'm going
to keep going long, because,

1107
00:52:57,713 --> 00:52:58,867
well, we're going long, but I'm
going to keep going long.

1108
00:52:58,867 --> 00:52:58,969
Okay.

1109
00:53:02,393 --> 00:53:02,655
Speaker 1: Because.

1110
00:53:02,655 --> 00:53:06,440
So this is a grocery chain
called Meijer, spelled

1111
00:53:06,701 --> 00:53:08,864
M-E-I-J-E-R.

1112
00:53:08,864 --> 00:53:14,336
I know, because we have one on
the planet Exactly, and when I

1113
00:53:14,376 --> 00:53:15,518
moved here I was like Meijer.

1114
00:53:15,518 --> 00:53:16,581
I'm like no, it's Meijer.

1115
00:53:16,581 --> 00:53:20,112
So anyway, meijer is a grocery
chain.

1116
00:53:20,112 --> 00:53:22,760
It is based out of Michigan and
it's kind of popular within the

1117
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:23,380
Midwest.

1118
00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:29,657
So they have a location,
unfortunately, here in Ohio, but

1119
00:53:29,657 --> 00:53:31,400
it's near Cleveland, so that
tracks.

1120
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,117
Just kidding, we love all of
you but not kidding.

1121
00:53:36,137 --> 00:53:43,393
So so this is like kind of near
Cleveland, and a 19-year-old

1122
00:53:43,773 --> 00:53:46,936
special needs employee named
James was arrested for eating

1123
00:53:46,998 --> 00:53:54,085
approximately $110 worth of food
over the span of three months.

1124
00:53:54,085 --> 00:53:59,101
So the food was mostly fruit
cups and chicken from the deli

1125
00:53:59,121 --> 00:54:00,242
counter where he worked.

1126
00:54:00,242 --> 00:54:05,965
I heard from another source
that allegedly this was food

1127
00:54:06,146 --> 00:54:08,411
that was toward the end of the
shift that was going to be

1128
00:54:08,452 --> 00:54:11,960
disposed of because they
couldn't sell it, so he would

1129
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:14,851
take food that was going to be
disposed of anyway.

1130
00:54:14,851 --> 00:54:16,753
That's what I heard elsewhere.

1131
00:54:16,753 --> 00:54:21,159
I don't know if that's true or
not, so anyway, this was added

1132
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:22,942
up to about a dollar a day.

1133
00:54:22,942 --> 00:54:29,795
So instead of addressing the
issue when it happened like you

1134
00:54:29,896 --> 00:54:35,166
see it as a manager, and you say
stop, don't steal, let's talk

1135
00:54:35,206 --> 00:54:39,175
about this Instead of addressing
it, the management monitored

1136
00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:45,512
and documented every time James
took some food for months, and

1137
00:54:45,532 --> 00:54:48,000
then they involved the police.

1138
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,536
So a video shows the store
manager explaining the alleged

1139
00:54:52,675 --> 00:54:59,144
theft to James while he was
being handcuffed, which is

1140
00:54:59,364 --> 00:55:00,306
fucking atrocious.

1141
00:55:00,306 --> 00:55:03,579
Yeah, I have no words for this
situation.

1142
00:55:04,932 --> 00:55:07,501
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit it
square on the head.

1143
00:55:07,501 --> 00:55:09,958
Poor management, this poor kid.

1144
00:55:09,958 --> 00:55:13,619
The manager said hey, buddy,
let me talk to you about this.

1145
00:55:13,619 --> 00:55:18,596
This is not what we do here, et
cetera, but switching gears or

1146
00:55:18,956 --> 00:55:21,295
bouncing back around with my, my
squirrely brain.

1147
00:55:21,295 --> 00:55:22,137
That was another.

1148
00:55:22,137 --> 00:55:24,190
That was one of the perks of
working in the restaurant

1149
00:55:24,231 --> 00:55:24,572
industry.

1150
00:55:24,572 --> 00:55:29,460
The food yeah, you bring food
home, leftover food home, or

1151
00:55:30,083 --> 00:55:32,414
when I worked it, I worked at a
pizza place for a while.

1152
00:55:32,414 --> 00:55:36,123
You got to bring one, make one
pizza and bring it home every

1153
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:40,014
night, and then the orders that
weren't picked up or anything

1154
00:55:40,054 --> 00:55:40,536
else like that.

1155
00:55:40,536 --> 00:55:44,170
If you wanted to take it, you
could take it and nobody cared.

1156
00:55:44,170 --> 00:55:46,619
That was that was the way it
went.

1157
00:55:46,619 --> 00:55:50,610
And in working the kitchen we
had Scooby snacks working.

1158
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:55,541
I mentioned Lone Star, the, the
part of the beef tenderloin

1159
00:55:55,581 --> 00:55:56,402
that you can't really use.

1160
00:55:56,402 --> 00:55:57,914
It's not usable for anything.

1161
00:55:57,914 --> 00:56:00,782
Those were Scooby snacks for
the kitchen workers.

1162
00:56:03,416 --> 00:56:06,416
And you do things like that and
I don't know.

1163
00:56:06,416 --> 00:56:08,590
There was just that's one of
the perks.

1164
00:56:08,590 --> 00:56:11,599
And if it's being thrown away
anyway or it's not going to be

1165
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,398
used, maybe talk to the kid and
say, hey, at the end of the

1166
00:56:16,418 --> 00:56:17,442
shift you can have some.

1167
00:56:17,442 --> 00:56:19,576
They could have turn this
around.

1168
00:56:19,576 --> 00:56:21,657
That could have been a
motivation for this kid.

1169
00:56:21,657 --> 00:56:23,896
Hey, you knock it out of the
park.

1170
00:56:23,896 --> 00:56:26,797
Today you can have a couple of
chicken strips or a fruit cup or

1171
00:56:26,797 --> 00:56:29,576
whatever it was, If that's what
motivates him.

1172
00:56:29,576 --> 00:56:35,798
Yeah, I mean, I can't fathom
calling the police over one

1173
00:56:35,818 --> 00:56:39,204
hundred $110 of stuff over
months of time.

1174
00:56:39,204 --> 00:56:43,398
I don't know how I didn't look
and see how recent this was

1175
00:56:43,478 --> 00:56:44,242
really recent.

1176
00:56:44,369 --> 00:56:46,036
Speaker 1: This was last week or
like a week ago.

1177
00:56:46,056 --> 00:56:46,478
Speaker 2: Last week.

1178
00:56:46,478 --> 00:56:51,710
I wonder if Mayer has put a
statement out about it.

1179
00:56:51,789 --> 00:56:52,875
Speaker 1: I really haven't.

1180
00:56:52,875 --> 00:57:00,579
So another content creator who
is a C, a CMO with a company.

1181
00:57:00,579 --> 00:57:05,228
She was talking about how this
there she's calling it the Bud

1182
00:57:05,268 --> 00:57:06,916
Light response of silence.

1183
00:57:06,916 --> 00:57:09,284
So I'm not exactly sure what
she's referencing there.

1184
00:57:09,284 --> 00:57:12,139
It's something probably Bud
Light did and they should have

1185
00:57:12,161 --> 00:57:12,963
spoke when they didn't.

1186
00:57:12,963 --> 00:57:17,538
But at this point, like Meyer
should have come out, they

1187
00:57:17,597 --> 00:57:20,105
should have been making
statements and how she explained

1188
00:57:20,105 --> 00:57:21,018
how she would have done.

1189
00:57:21,018 --> 00:57:24,117
It was basically basically,
let's put a statement out, let's

1190
00:57:24,117 --> 00:57:27,067
separate ourselves far away
from that decision as possible.

1191
00:57:27,067 --> 00:57:30,661
Let's say that that's not our
policy and that we don't agree

1192
00:57:30,701 --> 00:57:31,061
with it.

1193
00:57:31,061 --> 00:57:33,068
Let's get rid of that manager.

1194
00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:37,603
Let's do like, let's see what we
could do in the community bring

1195
00:57:37,603 --> 00:57:40,576
the kid back, like she kind of
had, like this whole plan, and

1196
00:57:40,635 --> 00:57:41,798
they have been silent.

1197
00:57:41,798 --> 00:57:45,802
However, they did say in their
silence so I guess they're not

1198
00:57:45,864 --> 00:57:49,643
being too, too silent, but they
basically did say that this was

1199
00:57:49,802 --> 00:57:51,126
thoughtful and deliberate.

1200
00:57:51,126 --> 00:57:53,262
I'm not I'm going to say that
didn't come from a corporate

1201
00:57:53,302 --> 00:57:56,181
office, though I'm going to say
that came probably from the

1202
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,456
store, because I don't think
anyone from the corporate office

1203
00:57:59,456 --> 00:58:02,420
would say that this was a
thoughtful and deliberate action

1204
00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:02,420
.

1205
00:58:03,302 --> 00:58:04,583
Speaker 2: Of a special needs
person.

1206
00:58:05,143 --> 00:58:05,764
Speaker 1: Of a special needs.

1207
00:58:05,764 --> 00:58:08,809
Anyone from the corporate
office would say that this was a

1208
00:58:08,809 --> 00:58:11,211
thoughtful and deliberate
action Of a special needs person

1209
00:58:11,211 --> 00:58:11,952
, of a special needs person.

1210
00:58:11,952 --> 00:58:15,135
And someone else explained I
know Kroger's does this, meyers

1211
00:58:15,155 --> 00:58:15,235
does.

1212
00:58:15,235 --> 00:58:15,878
I know a lot of grocery chains.

1213
00:58:15,878 --> 00:58:16,940
They do partner with
organizations to help with

1214
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,831
disabled individuals, employ
them, get jobs, and so Meyers

1215
00:58:19,891 --> 00:58:21,920
has this relationship with one
or two organizations, or however

1216
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,623
many, to help them staff.

1217
00:58:22,623 --> 00:58:23,728
And so Meijer has this
relationship with like one or

1218
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:26,237
two organizations, or however
many, to help them staff.

1219
00:58:26,958 --> 00:58:29,945
And the fact that they did this.

1220
00:58:29,945 --> 00:58:33,277
And the other thing that makes
me think is I'm jumping around

1221
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,027
what if this is a food
insecurity issue as well?

1222
00:58:36,027 --> 00:58:41,943
So now you have someone who is
like a vulnerable individual in

1223
00:58:41,983 --> 00:58:45,588
our community and, instead of
having a conversation with them,

1224
00:58:45,588 --> 00:58:48,264
letting them know that what
they're doing is against policy,

1225
00:58:48,264 --> 00:58:51,340
but hey, like, why, like, why
are you doing this?

1226
00:58:51,340 --> 00:58:53,302
That was a missed opportunity.

1227
00:58:53,302 --> 00:58:57,505
And the fact that you were like
I'm just thinking that they're

1228
00:58:57,545 --> 00:59:00,742
watching the cameras and they're
purposely ticking off a dollar

1229
00:59:00,802 --> 00:59:02,976
a day, meaning this was going on
.

1230
00:59:02,976 --> 00:59:04,838
Well, they did say for like
three months.

1231
00:59:04,838 --> 00:59:10,003
This was going on for like 110
days, let's say Like they were

1232
00:59:10,043 --> 00:59:12,164
just watching, waiting for this.

1233
00:59:12,164 --> 00:59:13,867
It's disgusting.

1234
00:59:14,206 --> 00:59:16,648
Speaker 2: And how much
management time was taken

1235
00:59:16,730 --> 00:59:18,710
watching this kid spend.

1236
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:32,143
It cost them a hell of a lot
more than $110 of time and it's

1237
00:59:32,222 --> 00:59:34,329
going to cost them a hell of a
lot more than $110 in lost

1238
00:59:34,349 --> 00:59:34,528
customers.

1239
00:59:34,528 --> 00:59:36,594
If I were in an area that had a
mire, I would think twice.

1240
00:59:36,594 --> 00:59:39,320
I'm very big about some
corporate.

1241
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,523
I don't want to say what is the
right word.

1242
00:59:41,523 --> 00:59:43,927
Boycotts some corporate.

1243
00:59:43,927 --> 00:59:46,411
I don't want to say what is the
right word Boycotts.

1244
00:59:46,411 --> 00:59:51,597
I'm not huge on them, but when
I have an opinion, there are

1245
00:59:51,617 --> 00:59:52,500
actors I will not see their
movies.

1246
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:53,282
They might be blockbuster gang.

1247
00:59:53,282 --> 00:59:55,088
I think this is a deployable
human being.

1248
00:59:55,088 --> 00:59:56,030
I'm not going to support them.

1249
00:59:56,030 --> 00:59:58,862
I'm not going to see their
movie.

1250
00:59:58,862 --> 01:00:00,907
Tom Cruise who I said Tom.

1251
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:05,416
Cruise that they're, they're who
.

1252
01:00:05,416 --> 01:00:05,858
It's a tom cruise.

1253
01:00:05,858 --> 01:00:06,300
Bing, bing, bing, bing.

1254
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:06,722
You same answer.

1255
01:00:06,722 --> 01:00:07,324
I've not seen maverick.

1256
01:00:07,324 --> 01:00:08,750
I've, I don't know, the last,
the last top, the last tom

1257
01:00:08,769 --> 01:00:10,677
cruise movie I might have seen,
might have been like wait, is

1258
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:11,824
that someone you're really like?

1259
01:00:11,905 --> 01:00:12,206
Speaker 1: no, I'm not.

1260
01:00:12,206 --> 01:00:15,197
Yeah, I will not see a tom
cruise because I'm the same way

1261
01:00:15,878 --> 01:00:18,440
I won't watch a netflix movie
with if it's on netflix.

1262
01:00:19,041 --> 01:00:19,923
Speaker 2: I haven't seen
maverick.

1263
01:00:19,923 --> 01:00:24,469
I think the last thing I saw
with him might have been like

1264
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:27,059
one of the very early Mission
Impossible movies.

1265
01:00:27,059 --> 01:00:31,655
And and then I I was looking
for, I read a book and then I

1266
01:00:31,775 --> 01:00:33,239
looked for the movie and it was
Tom Cruise.

1267
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:37,378
I was like ah, like okay, then
I'm not gonna watch this that's

1268
01:00:37,438 --> 01:00:37,639
funny.

1269
01:00:37,659 --> 01:00:38,302
Speaker 1: That was a
coincidence.

1270
01:00:38,302 --> 01:00:41,217
I was just cracking a joke, but
that's funny no that, but

1271
01:00:41,237 --> 01:00:41,418
there's.

1272
01:00:41,498 --> 01:00:43,824
Speaker 2: There's stores that I
won't support because of

1273
01:00:44,226 --> 01:00:47,664
various things their stances or
lack of stance, maybe on certain

1274
01:00:47,664 --> 01:00:50,601
things, because I have choices.

1275
01:00:50,601 --> 01:00:52,956
I could go Now honestly.

1276
01:00:52,956 --> 01:00:57,266
99% of our money goes to Amazon
, whether you like Bezos as a

1277
01:00:57,606 --> 01:01:00,420
character in Among Himself, but
it comes to my door.

1278
01:01:01,235 --> 01:01:04,065
Speaker 1: It comes to my door
almost every other day.

1279
01:01:05,275 --> 01:01:08,023
Speaker 2: The only thing is
where I live so far are deep in

1280
01:01:08,043 --> 01:01:08,445
the sticks.

1281
01:01:08,445 --> 01:01:09,681
We don't get two-day delivery.

1282
01:01:09,681 --> 01:01:11,742
We're lucky if we get five-day
delivery.

1283
01:01:11,742 --> 01:01:14,284
We actually were expecting a
big delivery today and nothing

1284
01:01:14,324 --> 01:01:14,605
came.

1285
01:01:14,605 --> 01:01:16,943
I meant to go look on Amazon
and see where it is.

1286
01:01:19,681 --> 01:01:20,181
Speaker 1: But anyways.

1287
01:01:20,483 --> 01:01:21,905
Speaker 2: Meyer screwed this
one.

1288
01:01:22,567 --> 01:01:23,088
Speaker 1: So, bad.

1289
01:01:24,096 --> 01:01:25,157
Speaker 2: The video you sent me
.

1290
01:01:25,157 --> 01:01:30,699
It was from a cop camp, the
police camp, and you're seeing

1291
01:01:30,739 --> 01:01:34,420
it from the police's point and I
got the feeling that policeman

1292
01:01:34,501 --> 01:01:40,641
did not want to be there doing
it, but I think he was doing it.

1293
01:01:40,641 --> 01:01:42,802
I mean, if they want to press
charges.

1294
01:01:42,802 --> 01:01:52,780
And then I would want to know
how many other things are going

1295
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,324
on, because petty theft in a
retail environment is rampant.

1296
01:01:54,344 --> 01:01:54,784
Speaker 1: I mean you know what?

1297
01:01:54,784 --> 01:01:56,208
That is an excellent question.

1298
01:01:56,208 --> 01:02:00,460
I would like to see if they are
prosecuting anyone else in that

1299
01:02:00,460 --> 01:02:07,391
store, for the same petty theft
like why is it just this person

1300
01:02:07,391 --> 01:02:07,391
?

1301
01:02:07,391 --> 01:02:09,202
That is an excellent question.

1302
01:02:10,054 --> 01:02:12,458
Speaker 2: And also speaking of
another piece, when you work

1303
01:02:12,518 --> 01:02:16,422
with some of those organizations
that promote the employment of

1304
01:02:16,842 --> 01:02:21,827
the disabled, not every time,
many times, they will send a

1305
01:02:21,867 --> 01:02:25,476
coach with that new employee and
that coach will work side by

1306
01:02:25,556 --> 01:02:30,246
side with them at your location
for a period of time to help get

1307
01:02:30,246 --> 01:02:32,199
them trained and get them
acclimated and things.

1308
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:35,534
And then they will also be
there, that organization that is

1309
01:02:35,534 --> 01:02:37,983
sponsored because they want
full employment of these people,

1310
01:02:37,983 --> 01:02:40,231
because one that I've worked
with in the past.

1311
01:02:40,231 --> 01:02:44,965
Their motto is just in my mind
but the motto is something about

1312
01:02:44,965 --> 01:02:48,380
better life through work,
because some of these people

1313
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,096
that are disadvantaged they just
want to work and they don't

1314
01:02:51,135 --> 01:02:54,485
care if it's at a grocery store
or McDonald's or 7-Eleven, they

1315
01:02:54,525 --> 01:02:59,545
want a job, they want that
self-fulfillment of earning

1316
01:02:59,585 --> 01:03:00,146
their own way.

1317
01:03:00,586 --> 01:03:01,268
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

1318
01:03:02,135 --> 01:03:02,702
Speaker 2: And being out in the
world.

1319
01:03:02,702 --> 01:03:03,753
They and being out in the world
.

1320
01:03:03,753 --> 01:03:07,148
They want to be out in the
world and some of them just need

1321
01:03:07,148 --> 01:03:07,914
that opportunity.

1322
01:03:07,914 --> 01:03:11,039
But these organizations if they
did get it through an

1323
01:03:11,059 --> 01:03:14,384
organization, if you have a
problem with them, they have

1324
01:03:14,605 --> 01:03:18,891
actual professional coaches who
know a little.

1325
01:03:18,891 --> 01:03:21,422
I don't know if they're
psychologists or therapists,

1326
01:03:21,483 --> 01:03:24,393
licensed therapists or anything
like that, but will work with

1327
01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:25,114
these people.

1328
01:03:25,114 --> 01:03:28,405
And if you're having a problem,
hey, you know petty theft.

1329
01:03:28,405 --> 01:03:30,802
Hey, being on time, they will
work with you.

1330
01:03:30,802 --> 01:03:34,824
So maybe the manager didn't
even have to pull out the big

1331
01:03:34,864 --> 01:03:35,947
guns and call the cops.

1332
01:03:35,947 --> 01:03:39,456
Hey, if they use, maybe he just
walked in on his own and

1333
01:03:39,496 --> 01:03:40,237
applied or applied online.

1334
01:03:40,237 --> 01:03:41,679
He just walked in on his own
and applied or applied online.

1335
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:42,039
I don't know.

1336
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:44,981
But a lot of those
organizations will provide

1337
01:03:45,201 --> 01:03:50,284
ongoing support for their at
least the one focus group of one

1338
01:03:50,284 --> 01:03:52,786
here, the one I work with once
upon a time.

1339
01:03:52,786 --> 01:03:56,949
Their big thing was we will
provide ongoing support for as

1340
01:03:57,070 --> 01:04:01,213
many years as that person is
with you and our person is with

1341
01:04:01,253 --> 01:04:08,277
you and it's I just feel.

1342
01:04:08,297 --> 01:04:09,422
I feel very badly for the kid.

1343
01:04:09,422 --> 01:04:11,208
I hope there's someone else in
I a.

1344
01:04:11,208 --> 01:04:13,175
First and foremost, I hope the
charges were dropped.

1345
01:04:13,175 --> 01:04:19,045
B I hope that there's another
employer in that area, unlike jj

1346
01:04:19,045 --> 01:04:20,427
, where they're the hosts.

1347
01:04:20,427 --> 01:04:22,500
There's some people lining up
to hire jj.

1348
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:24,806
That's not her words, but
people want an employee like JJ.

1349
01:04:24,806 --> 01:04:28,300
No, they don't, but there's
going to be another employer out

1350
01:04:28,300 --> 01:04:28,440
there.

1351
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,126
You know, we can use someone,
we can work with them, we can do

1352
01:04:31,126 --> 01:04:31,568
something.

1353
01:04:31,568 --> 01:04:34,083
This kid should have another
job.

1354
01:04:34,083 --> 01:04:37,603
So if you're, whatever the town
is outside of Cleveland, try

1355
01:04:37,623 --> 01:04:39,668
and find this kid and hook him
up.

1356
01:04:46,054 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Because you know
seven hills, ohio, seven hills,

1357
01:04:47,780 --> 01:04:47,880
seven.

1358
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,367
Yeah, I hope that, and and this
is just to the group of

1359
01:04:50,427 --> 01:04:53,394
individuals who thought this was
the correct course of action

1360
01:04:53,896 --> 01:04:55,978
this was incredibly heartless.

1361
01:04:55,978 --> 01:05:00,204
I don't think that anything
should have escalated to the

1362
01:05:00,244 --> 01:05:05,115
point of arresting someone for
stealing chicken and fruit cups,

1363
01:05:05,115 --> 01:05:12,668
and I hope you get diarrhea,
like really bad, and I hope that

1364
01:05:12,668 --> 01:05:17,101
it happens in the store and you
can't get to the bathroom fast

1365
01:05:17,141 --> 01:05:20,115
enough, and I hope people are
around to watch you and I hope

1366
01:05:20,135 --> 01:05:23,081
someone records it and I hope
they put it on the internet,

1367
01:05:23,101 --> 01:05:26,027
like put it on Reddit, and that
you're just humiliated for the

1368
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:26,788
rest of your life.

1369
01:05:26,788 --> 01:05:29,038
So I wish diarrhea upon you.

1370
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:31,842
Speaker 2: I love it.

1371
01:05:31,842 --> 01:05:32,784
I love it.

1372
01:05:32,784 --> 01:05:36,949
So, uh, yeah, yeah, this this
is like said.

1373
01:05:36,949 --> 01:05:37,938
This triggered me.

1374
01:05:37,938 --> 01:05:41,266
I've mentioned before my son is
on the autism spectrum.

1375
01:05:41,266 --> 01:05:44,375
I would I've mentioned before
my son is on the autism spectrum

1376
01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:51,559
I would, even though the kid is
over 19 or over 18, as a parent

1377
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:52,039
, I would be on them.

1378
01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:55,025
I would be, I would quit my
full-time job to be on them if I

1379
01:05:55,025 --> 01:05:59,436
could, because this is just so,
so, absolutely ridiculous and

1380
01:05:59,637 --> 01:06:00,701
it's just so.

1381
01:06:00,981 --> 01:06:07,056
Speaker 1: I don't know
ridiculous, and it's just.

1382
01:06:07,056 --> 01:06:07,557
I don't know what I fear.

1383
01:06:07,557 --> 01:06:09,001
What I fear is what it is is
probably like not probably, I

1384
01:06:09,021 --> 01:06:09,541
don't want to say probably.

1385
01:06:09,541 --> 01:06:14,976
What I fear is that this was a
way for them to terminate him

1386
01:06:15,257 --> 01:06:21,405
that was ironclad because he is
a person who is disabled and if

1387
01:06:21,485 --> 01:06:24,550
they felt like he wasn't
performing, they would not be

1388
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:25,797
able to get rid of him.

1389
01:06:25,797 --> 01:06:29,871
So let's build a case that is
ironclad for stealing against

1390
01:06:29,931 --> 01:06:33,780
company policy and we can get
rid of him that way, and if that

1391
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:36,947
is what is happening, I would
be very mad Again.

1392
01:06:37,755 --> 01:06:39,619
Speaker 2: diarrhea upon you.

1393
01:06:39,619 --> 01:06:43,806
I went to a labor and
employment seminar and this has

1394
01:06:43,847 --> 01:06:48,541
been many, many years ago, but
the speaker was an attorney and

1395
01:06:48,862 --> 01:06:51,956
they were advocating if you have
an employee who's committing a

1396
01:06:52,016 --> 01:06:56,010
crime and I'm sure it's not over
$110 of chicken nuggets and

1397
01:06:56,152 --> 01:06:59,601
fruit cups or whatever that's
committing a crime and you want

1398
01:06:59,621 --> 01:07:03,952
to fire them for it, you should
have them prosecuted.

1399
01:07:03,952 --> 01:07:07,960
And their whole thing was
because if you, then you're free

1400
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:08,802
to give a reference.

1401
01:07:08,802 --> 01:07:12,480
Hey, john Doe stole from us and
we pressed charges, or

1402
01:07:12,581 --> 01:07:13,163
something like that.

1403
01:07:13,163 --> 01:07:16,514
Like I said, I'm sure she was
speaking more along the lines of

1404
01:07:16,514 --> 01:07:18,637
embezzlement and more than
chicken nuggets yeah chicken

1405
01:07:18,657 --> 01:07:20,278
tenders here come on, More than
chicken nuggets.

1406
01:07:20,798 --> 01:07:22,260
Speaker 1: Yeah, chicken tenders
here Come on.

1407
01:07:23,161 --> 01:07:24,981
Speaker 2: So, but I just
remembered that.

1408
01:07:24,981 --> 01:07:27,925
So, yeah, Well, we did have a
third story.

1409
01:07:27,925 --> 01:07:30,306
I think we will save that for
you.

1410
01:07:30,306 --> 01:07:32,148
Sent another one over to me.

1411
01:07:32,148 --> 01:07:33,590
I think we'll save that one.

1412
01:07:34,130 --> 01:07:35,010
Speaker 1: It's not as heavy.

1413
01:07:35,010 --> 01:07:36,532
It's just stupid people being
stupid.

1414
01:07:38,614 --> 01:07:39,699
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know nothing
about that one, but that's what

1415
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:42,963
makes our show fun, the stupid
people being stupid, so anyway,

1416
01:07:42,983 --> 01:07:43,144
that one.

1417
01:07:43,144 --> 01:07:45,012
But that's what makes our show
fun, the stupid people being

1418
01:07:45,032 --> 01:07:45,675
stupid, so anyway.

1419
01:07:45,675 --> 01:07:47,257
Thank you for listening to this
whole episode.

1420
01:07:47,257 --> 01:07:47,561
I hope you enjoyed it.

1421
01:07:47,561 --> 01:07:50,130
Please think about supporting
us on Patreon, leaving a review,

1422
01:07:50,130 --> 01:07:53,778
telling your friends all those
fun things, and we will talk to

1423
01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:55,318
you in a couple of weeks.

1424
01:07:55,318 --> 01:07:56,878
So, as always, I'm Warren.

1425
01:07:57,721 --> 01:07:58,423
Speaker 1: I'm Cece.

1426
01:07:59,275 --> 01:08:02,802
Speaker 2: And we're here
helping you survive I almost

1427
01:08:02,822 --> 01:08:05,039
said survive diarrhea, survive.

1428
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:05,300
Hr1.

1429
01:08:07,987 --> 01:08:12,625
Speaker 1: I hope you survive
diarrhea where's the stop button

1430
01:08:12,625 --> 01:08:12,625
?

1431
01:08:39,601 --> 01:08:40,462
Speaker 2: there we go.

1432
01:08:40,462 --> 01:08:41,202
Thank you.