WEBVTT 00:00:02.303 --> 00:00:10.095 Had you actually read the email, you would know that the podcast you are about to listen to could contain explicit language and offensive content. 00:00:10.095 --> 00:00:16.699 These HR experts' views are not representative of their past, present or future employers. 00:00:16.699 --> 00:00:19.987 If you have ever heard my manager is unfair to me. 00:00:19.987 --> 00:00:26.829 I need you to reset my HR portal password, or Can I write up my employee for crying too much? 00:00:26.829 --> 00:00:29.086 Welcome to our little safe zone. 00:00:29.086 --> 00:00:31.466 Welcome to Jaded HR. 00:00:44.859 --> 00:00:52.750 Welcome to Jaded HR, the podcast by three HR professionals who want to help you get through the workday by saying everything you're thinking, but say it out loud. 00:00:52.750 --> 00:00:53.771 I'm Warren. 00:00:54.673 --> 00:00:57.335 I'm Cece, I'm Bill, all righty. 00:00:58.503 --> 00:01:00.287 We have a special guest. 00:01:00.287 --> 00:01:01.491 It's Bill. 00:01:01.491 --> 00:01:19.686 You hear us talk about every episode as our Patreon supporter, and a couple of weeks ago, bill shot me a message about a really cool story and I had to reach out to him to invite him to be on board, and he was able to join us. 00:01:19.686 --> 00:01:30.347 So thank you very much for joining us, bill, and I'll go ahead and use this time, too, to give a shout out to our other Patreon supporters Hallie, the original Jaded HR, rockstar and Mike. 00:01:30.870 --> 00:01:38.493 So yeah, so first for everybody, we love feedback from listeners. 00:01:38.493 --> 00:01:42.807 We don't get a boatload of it, we don't get much at all, but it seems like it comes in waves. 00:01:42.807 --> 00:01:44.111 If you will, and hopefully this will start a new wave of feedback from listeners. 00:01:44.111 --> 00:01:45.046 Boatload of it, we don't get much at all, but it seems like it comes in waves. 00:01:45.046 --> 00:01:54.227 If you will, and hopefully this will start a new wave of feedback from listeners, if you have a crazy story, an antic or something like that that you want to tell, let us know. 00:01:54.227 --> 00:01:56.540 Some people wanted to be on the show. 00:01:56.540 --> 00:01:59.840 Other people have not wanted to be on the show when I reach out to them to tell their story. 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.947 But yeah, let us know, we will have you on board. 00:02:02.947 --> 00:02:05.914 So, bill, thank you very much for joining us. 00:02:05.914 --> 00:02:13.173 I mean this is great and personally, thank you for supporting the show for this time on Patreon, because it helps. 00:02:14.580 --> 00:02:16.228 Well, it's been a great listen. 00:02:16.228 --> 00:02:17.001 You know you guys. 00:02:17.001 --> 00:02:21.192 When I found you guys, I was looking for somebody to give me some advice on how to be an HR manager. 00:02:21.192 --> 00:02:26.602 I've only been doing it for a couple of years, but you guys hit a different need. 00:02:26.602 --> 00:02:29.750 I needed to hear about people who had the same problems that I did. 00:02:30.771 --> 00:02:36.628 Exactly and I don't think anything we really say is too unique to any of us. 00:02:36.628 --> 00:02:43.828 Like we said, the poop rite of passage If you haven't dealt with poop, you're not in HR yet. 00:02:43.828 --> 00:02:45.670 Be poop, there will be poop. 00:02:46.611 --> 00:02:47.974 There will be, there always is. 00:02:48.822 --> 00:02:49.545 And it thinks like that. 00:02:49.545 --> 00:02:49.941 It's just. 00:02:49.941 --> 00:02:51.707 There's a billion other shows out there. 00:02:51.707 --> 00:02:54.562 If you want to learn, actually learn something, there's a. 00:02:54.562 --> 00:02:55.506 There's a hundred. 00:02:55.506 --> 00:02:58.848 I've listened to many of them, or not many of them, quite a few of them. 00:02:58.848 --> 00:03:06.109 Of the ones that give actual advice, my favorite, I'll go ahead and say, is Good Morning HR with Mike Coffey, who was on with us in December. 00:03:06.109 --> 00:03:08.831 That's my favorite one to actually learn from. 00:03:08.831 --> 00:03:15.257 But you have Kyle Road and Rebel HR and other great ones that you can actually learn something on HR Besties. 00:03:15.257 --> 00:03:16.341 You can learn from them as well. 00:03:16.341 --> 00:03:24.951 Yeah, you can learn from them, so they're a little more akin to us, but yeah, so, bill, tell us why you're here. 00:03:26.593 --> 00:03:37.804 So, so a couple of weeks ago you guys were going I don't even remember what the topics was, it was like two or three sessions ago but and I was like you know what I just got to share this story because it's still fresh in my mind. 00:03:37.804 --> 00:03:44.649 It's a, it's a this year story and of course, there's been some updates to this story since I shared it with you. 00:03:44.649 --> 00:03:48.246 But I'll go ahead and start at the beginning. 00:03:48.246 --> 00:03:49.590 We have a division of the company. 00:03:49.590 --> 00:04:04.349 It's about 300 and something people spread across four different locations, but the majority of them are here in the area where I'm located with the headquarters, and there's about 180 people in this building. 00:04:04.939 --> 00:04:08.283 It's a new building, so there's there's problems with the building. 00:04:08.283 --> 00:04:22.507 We've moved in recently and one of my favorite people in the building comes to me and goes hey, I need to talk to you about some stuff, and she just starts telling me about all these rumors that are going around the building. 00:04:22.507 --> 00:04:35.492 And the first rumor was you know, we got somebody in the women's restroom doing lines of Coke and I was like, how do you know it's Coke. 00:04:37.661 --> 00:04:38.644 I mean great question. 00:04:39.206 --> 00:04:41.050 I've got stories about that too from my past. 00:04:41.050 --> 00:04:42.802 But how do you know it's Coke and so. 00:04:42.802 --> 00:04:46.668 And then they're telling me, me, well, they're finding powdery residue and all that kind of stuff. 00:04:46.668 --> 00:04:58.300 So I I was like, well, maybe it's, maybe it's a misunderstanding of what's going on, and we put you know, the red, the red sharps boxes in there, thinking it was somebody who had a problem dropping their needles in the in the trash or something like that. 00:04:58.300 --> 00:04:59.281 Right, so we did that. 00:04:59.281 --> 00:05:00.884 And then she was like there's another rumor. 00:05:00.884 --> 00:05:02.586 I was like, oh no, she goes. 00:05:02.586 --> 00:05:10.785 There is sounds of pleasure coming from the women's restroom several times a week. 00:05:10.785 --> 00:05:13.189 And I'm like, oh my god, what, what? 00:05:13.189 --> 00:05:15.093 What? 00:05:15.093 --> 00:05:22.269 I was like this is just somebody, like maybe someone's having a rough day in the restroom, whatever right. 00:05:22.269 --> 00:05:24.666 And I was like she goes well, are you gonna do anything? 00:05:24.666 --> 00:05:25.896 I was like she goes well, are you going to do anything? 00:05:25.896 --> 00:05:26.480 I was like, absolutely not. 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:33.709 I'm not going to touch that one, right, there's no way in or out of that situation that will keep you out of jail. 00:05:35.814 --> 00:05:44.288 Okay, especially as an HR dude having to deal with that in a women's restroom, you're going to be the creepster automatically, yeah, so now? 00:05:44.288 --> 00:05:44.971 Why are you so concerned? 00:05:44.990 --> 00:05:47.660 women's restroom you're going to be the creepster automatically, just yeah. 00:05:47.660 --> 00:05:48.862 So now, why are you so? 00:05:48.923 --> 00:05:49.403 concerned. 00:05:49.403 --> 00:05:51.350 Well, now there's the setup right. 00:05:51.350 --> 00:05:54.601 So it's now Monday evening. 00:05:54.601 --> 00:06:02.028 It's about six or seven o'clock on a Monday evening in June and I get a call from the senior program manager. 00:06:02.028 --> 00:06:04.966 Hey, we'll call you tomorrow. 00:06:04.966 --> 00:06:23.067 We'll give you some more details, but we had one of our our junior program managers pull in four women that work for him and ask them individually if they were masturbating in the women's restroom shit yes exactly. 00:06:23.067 --> 00:06:26.593 I may have used a few more colorful phrases at that moment but yes. 00:06:30.440 --> 00:06:35.353 So, of course, come in the next day, I've got to go brief my boss and who I work for, the CFO. 00:06:35.353 --> 00:06:40.031 I go brief the CEO and tell them and they're like, oh well, what do we do? 00:06:40.031 --> 00:06:41.887 I was like, well, we're going to fire him. 00:06:41.887 --> 00:06:44.747 That's, that's the first thing we're going to do. 00:06:44.747 --> 00:06:53.427 We do need to do some sort of investigation to make it all clean, but he's going to get fired if even one of those women cooperates. 00:06:53.427 --> 00:06:55.872 That story, yeah, oh my gosh. 00:06:55.872 --> 00:07:04.454 And so I went over to the building and I asked all four of the ladies that got dimed out their program manager and got the whole story. 00:07:04.454 --> 00:07:11.908 And what it turns out is this guy decided he was going to take it upon himself Monday morning to ask the four women. 00:07:11.908 --> 00:07:15.389 Now he has eight people who work for them. 00:07:15.389 --> 00:07:24.485 Seven of them are women and he only asked four of them and they were the four better looking of the women who worked for him. 00:07:25.206 --> 00:07:27.100 Oh my God, it just keeps giving Ugly. 00:07:27.100 --> 00:07:28.346 Women can't do that. 00:07:28.365 --> 00:07:30.404 Nope Ugly women can't do this. 00:07:32.644 --> 00:07:35.646 So I talked to each of the women, I talked to the supervisor. 00:07:35.646 --> 00:07:42.351 It turns out that he did that and then an hour later went into his supervisor's office and was like, hey, I think we should do this. 00:07:42.351 --> 00:07:45.024 And she told him under no circumstances, no. 00:07:45.024 --> 00:07:48.370 So he just clammed up and didn't say nothing. 00:07:48.370 --> 00:07:58.947 And it was about four or five o'clock in the afternoon when one of the women finally went to her to the boss and was like hey, this happened today and that's when it all went downhill. 00:07:59.870 --> 00:08:02.204 So Tuesday, I roll in, I get the investigation going. 00:08:02.204 --> 00:08:04.274 The four women all rogered up. 00:08:04.274 --> 00:08:05.781 Yep, this is exactly what happened. 00:08:05.781 --> 00:08:06.723 They wrote statements. 00:08:06.723 --> 00:08:12.464 I went back to my boss and I said immediately, make him go away, there's no way to salvage this. 00:08:12.464 --> 00:08:17.360 So in the middle of it, this is the week of sexual harassment complaints. 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:26.281 By the way, 15 sexual harassment complaints in four days, hey, different complaints and they're not in the same complaints, right. 00:08:26.281 --> 00:08:30.541 And most of them were just like petty, like oh, look, hr is in the building taking care of this problem. 00:08:30.541 --> 00:08:33.270 Maybe they'll listen to this one and make this other guy go away, right? 00:08:33.270 --> 00:08:34.923 And that's where a lot of them ended up. 00:08:34.923 --> 00:08:40.201 So the next one was I was in the building and one of the program managers pulls me inside. 00:08:40.201 --> 00:08:48.754 Hey, one of our admins just came to me and said that her program manager that she works for was asking her recommendations about lingerie. 00:08:48.754 --> 00:08:53.024 I'm like no, no, no, no. 00:08:57.562 --> 00:08:59.528 So, I went and talked to her. 00:08:59.528 --> 00:09:01.500 She gave me her statement and it was he. 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:09.495 They had formed a friendship and he thought it was a different kind of friendship and that he could ask some advice about lingerie that he needed for his wife. 00:09:09.495 --> 00:09:12.549 And I told him yeah, that you're dumb. 00:09:12.549 --> 00:09:17.451 Guy's been doing being a program manager for like 20 plus years. 00:09:17.631 --> 00:09:22.024 You're dumb oh my gosh oh. 00:09:22.765 --> 00:09:31.826 So then of course, the girl who made the complaint didn't like how we handled that situation, because we fired the one guy, but we didn't fire this guy, and then she rage quit. 00:09:31.826 --> 00:09:39.807 She sent an email out to everybody in the building Basically saying how she was unhappy, and I mean, everybody in the building got this email. 00:09:39.807 --> 00:09:41.206 It was printed on email. 00:09:41.206 --> 00:09:44.863 It was probably three pages long about how bad the management was. 00:09:44.863 --> 00:09:48.304 That's unfortunate. 00:09:48.304 --> 00:09:52.328 A week after that, of course, the story just keeps building on itself, right? 00:09:52.328 --> 00:09:57.253 Because we still have to figure out the whole masturbation and coke lines in the bathroom problem, right? 00:09:57.753 --> 00:09:59.073 We didn't even figure that out. 00:09:59.333 --> 00:10:01.235 We haven't yet, but that's coming. 00:10:01.235 --> 00:10:02.937 Oh wait, there's more. 00:10:02.937 --> 00:10:08.669 I have a lady check out that works in that building and she's like telling me. 00:10:08.669 --> 00:10:14.831 I was like and the last question I ask anytime I'm doing an exit interview is there anything you would like to tell me that you didn't feel comfortable telling anybody else? 00:10:14.831 --> 00:10:19.360 Your name won't get used if I have to take action because you're no longer here, so it's not a big deal. 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:20.361 And she did. 00:10:20.461 --> 00:10:37.009 She dad had dumped on me and one of the things that she gave me the name of the person doing coke lines on the in the bathroom and how she had been caught like, walked in on doing the coke lines and I was like, oh okay, so I go down there. 00:10:37.009 --> 00:10:38.332 And I was told went to the director. 00:10:38.332 --> 00:10:39.986 I was like, hey, this is what I'm going to do. 00:10:39.986 --> 00:10:44.547 I'm going to pull her in with a witness, another a female witness, preferably her boss, who, strangely enough, is the boss in the whole story. 00:10:44.547 --> 00:10:47.419 And I'm going to pull her in with a witness, another female witness, preferably her boss, who, strangely enough, is the boss in the whole story. 00:10:47.419 --> 00:10:53.251 And I'm going to ask her if she's ever done coke lines on the bathroom floor or a bathroom counter. 00:10:53.251 --> 00:10:57.931 And if she says yes, we'll have her go do a drug screening, see. 00:10:57.971 --> 00:11:17.623 If it's positive, we'll use our EAP, get her into a drug treatment program and, depending on if she passes the drug treatment program, we'll allow her to come in to work for us without any adverse action and they're like okay, if she says no, I'm still going to send her to do a drug screening, but at that point she's suspended until I get the results back. 00:11:17.623 --> 00:11:23.187 And this is on a friday, so I'd get the results back on monday and if she's positive, we terminate her immediately. 00:11:23.187 --> 00:11:25.615 If she's positive, we terminate her immediately. 00:11:25.615 --> 00:11:27.982 If she's not positive, we go on like nothing happened. 00:11:27.982 --> 00:11:30.450 And she can be mad at me Not a big deal, right? 00:11:30.450 --> 00:11:31.861 I'm the guy they pay to get mad at. 00:11:31.861 --> 00:11:36.129 So I had her, she said, of course. 00:11:36.129 --> 00:11:37.832 She said, no, I don't do drugs. 00:11:37.832 --> 00:11:40.384 I don't do drugs in the bathroom, not at all. 00:11:40.604 --> 00:11:53.212 No, I do them in my office and so I'm like okay, well, in accordance with our drug policy, I am authorized to send you for a command or a company directed your analysis and you will go. 00:11:53.212 --> 00:11:54.605 And you will go to this location. 00:11:54.605 --> 00:12:07.927 Your supervisor is going to escort you, right, because I learned that lesson 30 years ago and we'll get the results on monday and you're just going to go home after you do the drug screening and I'll call you in on monday or tuesday when we get the results on Monday, and you're just going to go home after you do the drug screening and I'll call you in on Monday or Tuesday when we get the results back. 00:12:07.927 --> 00:12:10.381 She's like okay, and she goes well. 00:12:10.403 --> 00:12:11.466 Can I ask some questions now? 00:12:11.466 --> 00:12:13.548 I was like sure, no problem, right? 00:12:13.548 --> 00:12:15.287 I want to make sure it's all clear and transparent. 00:12:15.287 --> 00:12:16.261 She goes well. 00:12:16.261 --> 00:12:18.687 Who told you they saw me doing drugs in the bathroom? 00:12:18.687 --> 00:12:22.634 I was like what she goes, yeah. 00:12:22.634 --> 00:12:23.294 Who told you that? 00:12:23.294 --> 00:12:28.488 I was like I'm not going to tell you that and in the back of my head I'm like that automatically means that you know you did it. 00:12:28.940 --> 00:12:35.668 Yeah, I was just going to say we didn't say that anyone locked in on you, and so now I'm thinking she did it. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:37.826 I got my law degree from Law Order. 00:12:37.885 --> 00:12:38.749 I know how this works. 00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:44.644 So I'm expecting now her drug screening to come back positive for something. 00:12:44.644 --> 00:12:47.306 Her supervisor and her get over there. 00:12:47.306 --> 00:12:47.846 I get a call. 00:12:47.846 --> 00:12:57.154 I'm in the middle of shoving Mission BBQ in my face because it's lunchtime and I answer the phone and the supervisor's like she doesn't want to do the drug screening. 00:12:57.154 --> 00:12:59.417 I was like, okay, well, here's her choice. 00:12:59.417 --> 00:13:09.500 She can do the drug screening and run the risk that she's going to get terminated with a positive, or she can be terminated now for refusal to do the drug screening in accordance with our policy. 00:13:09.500 --> 00:13:11.184 And so the lady quit. 00:13:11.184 --> 00:13:20.547 That day turns out she was both our coke line user on the bathroom counter and our women's restroom masturbator. 00:13:20.547 --> 00:13:22.249 Oh, she was both. 00:13:22.249 --> 00:13:23.551 She was both. 00:13:23.551 --> 00:13:24.211 She was both. 00:13:24.211 --> 00:13:25.333 What a twist. 00:13:25.333 --> 00:13:30.048 So she was going in the restroom getting high, getting high and then rubbing one out yeah. 00:13:32.023 --> 00:13:32.504 Oh my. 00:13:32.544 --> 00:13:32.947 God. 00:13:34.562 --> 00:13:35.326 And cocaine. 00:13:35.326 --> 00:13:38.523 It's almost like it's a passe drug now. 00:13:38.523 --> 00:13:41.806 You know, in the 90s and 80s, I was like is it the? 00:13:41.865 --> 00:13:42.226 80s again. 00:13:44.403 --> 00:13:49.210 Yeah, robin Williams' line cocaine is God's message to you that you have too much money. 00:13:49.210 --> 00:13:56.629 But if it weren't, for cocaine, saturday Night Live would never have been a thing, that's true. 00:13:56.730 --> 00:13:59.528 Right, some of my favorite comics would have never been comics. 00:13:59.528 --> 00:14:00.431 Yeah, exactly. 00:14:01.542 --> 00:14:02.538 That's so funny. 00:14:02.538 --> 00:14:02.900 That is insane. 00:14:02.900 --> 00:14:03.961 I didn't expect the twist at the end. 00:14:03.961 --> 00:14:06.967 So she, that is insane, I didn't expect the twist at the end. 00:14:07.729 --> 00:14:10.453 Yeah, one fell swoop, we got two rumors killed. 00:14:10.860 --> 00:14:16.567 So, and I have to ask was she one of the four good looking women or one of the three non? 00:14:16.587 --> 00:14:17.529 good looking women, um. 00:14:17.529 --> 00:14:23.268 Of the four women, she was probably the better of the four. 00:14:23.268 --> 00:14:29.972 However, you could tell like I have some background. 00:14:29.972 --> 00:14:31.767 I did 25 years in the United States Navy. 00:14:31.767 --> 00:14:42.909 One of the things that I did was deal with people and their criminal mishaps while active duty and you can tell when someone's using drugs, like I didn't have to ask her the questions to know she was going to lie to me. 00:14:42.909 --> 00:14:45.174 There were the signs, right. 00:14:45.174 --> 00:14:47.427 Yeah, the sunken, sallow face. 00:14:47.427 --> 00:14:48.945 She'd lost weight. 00:14:48.945 --> 00:14:52.864 She was like stupid stick skinny because you know Coke does that to you. 00:14:52.864 --> 00:14:54.926 Yeah, oh gosh. 00:14:55.186 --> 00:14:58.389 Oh my gosh, it was Wow. 00:14:58.389 --> 00:15:06.677 See, I think you get some sort of award because you had like a mix of like 10 things all in one scenario. 00:15:06.677 --> 00:15:18.243 You know, bathroom, you don't have to go as far as poop but bathroom stuff, masturbation, drugs, lingerie harassment. 00:15:18.263 --> 00:15:22.586 I mean, wow, that would be like one really great episode of an HR sitcom. 00:15:22.966 --> 00:15:23.847 Yeah, it would. 00:15:23.847 --> 00:15:26.450 It would be like you couldn't, you could. 00:15:26.450 --> 00:15:28.552 How do you do episode two? 00:15:28.552 --> 00:15:31.293 What do we do next? 00:15:31.313 --> 00:15:36.304 Yeah, you can't run that as the pilot episode, that's for sure. 00:15:36.325 --> 00:15:37.729 Yeah, that's oh wow. 00:15:37.729 --> 00:15:56.350 And see, I honestly fully believe and I think every listener will fully believe every word of what you're saying, because we've been there, we've done that Maybe not exactly, but we could see that happening Whereas someone who doesn't do HR is like what are you talking about? 00:15:56.350 --> 00:15:58.067 You're full of shit, you know, or something like that. 00:15:58.779 --> 00:16:02.707 Well, it's like my COO hates to see me Monday morning. 00:16:02.707 --> 00:16:11.284 I try not to go to his office first thing Monday morning, because when I walk in there first thing Monday morning it's stuff like this as we leave, he goes. 00:16:11.284 --> 00:16:12.628 You just can't make this up, can you? 00:16:13.250 --> 00:16:18.647 No, you can't, you really really can't. 00:16:18.667 --> 00:16:22.441 Oh, man you do deserve an award that was awesome. 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:30.047 Hopefully since then, your work is getting, you know, less exciting for a little while. 00:16:30.267 --> 00:16:33.109 For about 30 days and then it came back with a vengeance. 00:16:33.109 --> 00:16:35.591 Oh boy, yeah, some of those players. 00:16:35.591 --> 00:16:39.714 The lady that rage quit in the middle of all that. 00:16:39.714 --> 00:16:42.096 She wrote an EOC complaint. 00:16:42.096 --> 00:16:44.037 So we've got that going for us. 00:16:44.057 --> 00:16:44.798 That's unfortunate. 00:16:48.082 --> 00:16:48.624 Fun stuff. 00:16:48.624 --> 00:17:02.625 Well, you know, that is very lightning of a story, but let's see if we can keep things going from there. 00:17:02.625 --> 00:17:08.473 So, cece, we didn't get to all of our stories last episode and we recorded I was saying off the air, we recorded for an hour and 40 minutes. 00:17:08.473 --> 00:17:11.041 I think we got the episode down. 00:17:11.041 --> 00:17:14.270 I got it down to like an hour and 15 minutes or something like that, hour 10, hour 15. 00:17:14.270 --> 00:17:16.708 So we missed one of the stories. 00:17:16.708 --> 00:17:21.251 So what employee behaving badly do you have? 00:17:21.251 --> 00:17:22.034 Oh my gosh. 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.368 Okay, so this was like a few weeks ago. 00:17:24.368 --> 00:17:29.181 Do you have, oh my gosh. 00:17:29.181 --> 00:17:30.144 Okay, so this was like a few weeks ago. 00:17:30.144 --> 00:17:38.321 There was a individual who, just you know, loves to have a social media presence and loves to do a day in my life video blogs as she's working. 00:17:38.321 --> 00:18:03.594 So this was an individual who is a store manager inside of a Mac cosmetics that was inside of the LAX airport and she did a lot of these a day in my life vlogs through her entire career as a Mac cosmetics representative, and I guess she got called in at a no in the middle of her. 00:18:03.881 --> 00:18:19.724 By the way, it was in the middle of her day in my life, which I thought was so what a great day it was such a great day because she did get fired like in the middle of her day in my life, and all of her mac mascara was like running down her face as she was carrying her box out, like it was very dramatic. 00:18:19.724 --> 00:18:27.121 But apparently what she was doing was she was videotaping everything like, everything Like. 00:18:27.121 --> 00:18:33.039 She was videotaping and recording and capturing her pulling up to the employee parking lot. 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.487 She dangled her badge in front of the camera before she scanned it. 00:18:37.487 --> 00:18:42.474 In giving everyone a clear view of, like what that security was. 00:18:42.474 --> 00:18:54.799 That security was, she showed herself going in to like their back office, getting the money out of the safe, putting the money in the canister, showing people what that canister looked like. 00:18:54.799 --> 00:19:03.184 So if you were walking to the LAX like airport and you saw like this very particular briefcase, you knew there was cash in there. 00:19:03.184 --> 00:19:08.244 But she was timestamping everything so people could follow her. 00:19:08.305 --> 00:19:19.405 Basically, and the best part was and this is my favorite she actually recorded herself like logging into the POS, which, if you could slow it down, you can see her employee code. 00:19:19.405 --> 00:19:20.269 You could see everything. 00:19:20.269 --> 00:19:43.553 So, anyway, oh, and she also recorded herself taking a nap in the back, which was but I just wanted to, you know, just kind of throw that out there and being and saying like you don't need to record everything, like we should know less of each other, I don't need to know like you going to work in the morning, let's just all take a step back and put the phones down. 00:19:43.903 --> 00:19:55.595 Yeah I don't know about you guys, but there's things in my 20s that I'm glad there's no photographic evidence of honestly exactly yes, exactly there is definitely. 00:19:55.755 --> 00:19:59.845 Oh, I was talking about this with someone, actually there was that. 00:19:59.845 --> 00:20:00.887 It's so funny you brought it up. 00:20:00.887 --> 00:20:18.568 It was one of those like generational things, like gen c doesn't know what it's like, but honestly, like we I think they said millennials are the last generation to know life before social media and like we had the freedom to act like fools and not have everyone record us. 00:20:18.568 --> 00:20:22.971 Like we had like that luxury. 00:20:22.971 --> 00:20:25.988 So anyway, put your phones away when you're at work. 00:20:25.988 --> 00:20:26.950 Just put them away. 00:20:27.171 --> 00:20:39.474 Yeah, like put them away Apparently at my work there's someone whose desk is not far from mine, who I've never known, is doing social media videos and everything. 00:20:39.474 --> 00:20:45.200 And another employee said oh, I saw you walking behind this person's desk while they were doing a social media thing. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:46.021 I'm like what are you? 00:20:46.021 --> 00:20:51.353 I'm like, really, they're recording social media stuff, did I mean? 00:20:52.623 --> 00:21:04.645 anyways, that's I would say I would say about every six months I have that conversation with my team like hey, you guys understand that back here is not a place to record, or you want to have private phone calls go outside. 00:21:04.645 --> 00:21:10.828 But but this is HR, lots of things happen in here and it doesn't need to leave HR. 00:21:11.410 --> 00:21:11.710 Yeah. 00:21:12.111 --> 00:21:29.775 One person I've worked with very briefly for two times, but she had this rule that I've carried with me ever since the four walls rule, and within these four HR walls we can say and do all sorts of abhorrent shit that vent ourselves the HR safe space. 00:21:30.075 --> 00:21:37.032 Yes, If we want to say that Warren is the dumbest ass employee, what the fuck did Warren do today? 00:21:37.032 --> 00:21:50.826 Oh my gosh, we can say that as loud and with as much tone and attitude with each other as we need just to get it off and be you know, get that out of your system so you don't say it to the employee themselves. 00:21:50.826 --> 00:21:55.946 And I love that rule and it led to a lot of great conversations the four walls rule. 00:21:56.508 --> 00:21:57.509 Laughing. 00:21:57.509 --> 00:22:10.550 One of my really good friends, her husband, just started with an Australian based company and he says like their work culture at this specific company is very different, like people are throwing the c word around and like all it's very lax. 00:22:10.550 --> 00:22:25.171 And he was in a meeting one day and someone said they, they called someone lasagna okay as a nickname and they're like yeah, he doesn't know, that's his nickname and they're like why is it? 00:22:25.299 --> 00:22:40.199 lasagna and someone said because I'm not gonna do an australian accent because I'll kill it but he said his, his head's so fucking baked he can't get shit done oh man I don't know why. 00:22:40.199 --> 00:22:43.483 The four walls just reminded me of that and I thought that was was hilarious. 00:22:43.483 --> 00:22:46.347 His head's so fucking baked he can't get shit done. 00:22:47.670 --> 00:22:48.131 Let's see here. 00:22:48.131 --> 00:22:50.374 So the news. 00:22:50.374 --> 00:23:04.673 I'm going to keep the theme going of people behaving badly and we have two really good examples since our last recording of people behaving badly, and I'm not going to I don't I don't even know if the guy's name was released. 00:23:04.673 --> 00:23:21.444 He was the polish ceo who was at the us open and the polish tennis player and I don't follow tennis at all people, so I'm not going to go with the names, but he was giving out, signing autographs and giving things away and he hands this cap to this kid. 00:23:21.444 --> 00:23:30.756 Looks like he's 10, 12 years old, but this Polish CEO snatches it from the tennis player's hand and then gives it to his girlfriend. 00:23:30.756 --> 00:23:35.811 He's like oh, he's the cat that ate the canary happy, and he's all this and that. 00:23:35.811 --> 00:23:42.384 And the kid's like giving him just, you know, you monster type, look type thing. 00:23:42.384 --> 00:23:43.865 You monster type, look type thing. 00:23:43.865 --> 00:23:51.890 And that CEO later released a statement and saying you know he didn't realize that the hat was intended for the kid. 00:23:52.590 --> 00:23:58.355 Oh no, he knew, he knew, just watching every minute of that he knew every second of what he was doing. 00:23:58.835 --> 00:24:04.861 So you know that's just total bullshit with that and that irritated me. 00:24:04.861 --> 00:24:11.189 But at least he had the gumption to acknowledge the fact, acknowledge what happened, even though he might have been lying. 00:24:11.189 --> 00:24:13.948 Oh, I didn't realize it was intended for the kid. 00:24:13.948 --> 00:24:15.487 Yes, it absolutely was. 00:24:15.487 --> 00:24:17.386 The whole rest of the world realized that. 00:24:17.386 --> 00:24:18.189 Why couldn't you? 00:24:18.189 --> 00:24:29.143 But the more famous one now is your, philadelphia Karen, and I just realized I saw another video about this. 00:24:29.143 --> 00:24:30.707 This was in my the. 00:24:31.208 --> 00:24:37.183 The home game was in miami, so they were philly fans down in miami or florida marlins. 00:24:37.183 --> 00:24:41.151 Now I guess you'd say that you know the, the homeroom ball. 00:24:41.151 --> 00:24:42.173 Nobody catches. 00:24:42.173 --> 00:24:43.303 It's bouncing around florida. 00:24:43.303 --> 00:24:52.384 Dad bends over in front of this lady, picks it up and gives it to his son and everybody's all happy except for that lady who swore it was hers and she's. 00:24:52.384 --> 00:25:03.040 He stole it out of her hand and he's yelling and she's yelling and screaming at him and ultimately the dad just says get the fuck out of here and gives the ball back to the lady. 00:25:03.040 --> 00:25:03.903 It's not worth it. 00:25:03.903 --> 00:25:09.753 But now social media says that she was been identified and been fired from her job. 00:25:09.753 --> 00:25:12.047 If social media is right, she's a? 00:25:12.047 --> 00:25:16.990 Uh works on a school board somewhere up in New Jersey or something like that that's. 00:25:17.151 --> 00:25:22.289 That's what I saw, but then I saw another post the day after that said that it wasn't her. 00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:24.259 Yeah, oh, so yeah, who the day? 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:26.001 after that said that it wasn't her. 00:25:26.001 --> 00:25:26.883 Yeah, oh, so yeah, who knows? 00:25:26.883 --> 00:25:40.616 But wherever she works, hopefully she doesn't work there anymore, because that type of volatility you know the CEO, he was just being a jerk and grabbed a hat there was no volatility, anger, rage, whatever in that. 00:25:40.616 --> 00:25:48.887 This lady lost her shit altogether and first it's sort of par, for course, for a Phillies fan in any sport, yeah worst fans ever. 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.388 Yeah, and actually I know we have listeners in Philadelphia. 00:25:52.388 --> 00:25:53.290 You know they're going to hate me. 00:25:53.290 --> 00:25:58.432 Philadelphia is one of the physically dirtiest cities I think I've ever been in. 00:25:58.432 --> 00:26:00.507 Maybe St Louis has got it topped. 00:26:00.507 --> 00:26:02.160 St Louis might have it topped. 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:13.986 Sorry, listeners in St Louis, but a few years ago I went with my son and we're going around all the touristy areas in Philadelphia and there is filth. 00:26:13.986 --> 00:26:15.108 We're in like near the Liberty Bell area. 00:26:15.108 --> 00:26:22.646 There is filth everywhere, needles in public places and like unhinged crazies. 00:26:22.646 --> 00:26:27.806 Out there there was one unhinged person who was just going nuts and me and my son walked into the. 00:26:27.806 --> 00:26:28.810 There was a bank nearby. 00:26:28.810 --> 00:26:30.318 Hey, let's go into this bank. 00:26:30.318 --> 00:26:38.669 We have no business being here, but I don't think a crazy is going to come in here and we just sort of watched him walk by and we left just because it was just. 00:26:38.669 --> 00:26:45.690 Philadelphia is and I have many, actual many friends who live around Philadelphia. 00:26:45.690 --> 00:26:50.986 It's just a filthy, dirty, disgusting little city, not little city, but it's. 00:26:51.319 --> 00:27:00.133 I was just going to say you guys need to get your sports fans in order Because, I don't know, I heard they also have a jail in their stadiums because they just get so rowdy. 00:27:00.133 --> 00:27:02.224 Just get your people in order, yeah. 00:27:02.265 --> 00:27:04.029 Sorry. 00:27:04.550 --> 00:27:09.471 Sorry, that woman, just being a Phillies fan, was the icing on the cake it was. 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:18.607 You know, though, the team came through, though, and really they resolved the issue, and I think, probably one of the best ways it turns out, it was the kid's birthday. 00:27:19.131 --> 00:27:20.859 Oh my gosh, that day I didn't love it. 00:27:20.940 --> 00:27:27.086 And so they brought him like a swag bag, yeah, that day. 00:27:27.086 --> 00:27:30.212 And so they brought him like a swag bag, yeah, and then the the team that that was the stadium brought him a swag bag with a whole bunch of stuff in it. 00:27:30.212 --> 00:27:36.740 And then the team the phillies actually brought him down after the game and got got him to get a signed bat from the guy that hit the home run. 00:27:36.760 --> 00:27:43.760 Yeah, so and you know, kudos to both the marlins and the phillies organizations for doing that. 00:27:43.760 --> 00:27:57.440 Yeah, because, and the thing is, it's not one of those things that we're finding out those players knew what was happening right then and there, and one of the screenshots I showed, they're doing pitch one and it's a home run and they show all the commotion. 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:06.878 They do pitch two and they're going back to the commotion after the thing and they're going back and forth and I'm like geez, lady, you are completely unhinged. 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:09.150 It's just the audacity. 00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:12.548 It's the audacity, like that's my ball. 00:28:12.548 --> 00:28:13.851 You gotta be fast. 00:28:14.622 --> 00:28:14.721 And. 00:28:14.741 --> 00:28:15.404 I will say this. 00:28:15.404 --> 00:28:42.737 So, mr CEC, uh, like we go to a few concerts and we've been to a concert before where, like he caught the pick of a guitarist who like threw it, and my and and mr cc loves to play guitars, so but he caught the guitar and there was a kid behind him who wanted the guitar pick and he just sucked it up and gave it to the kid and like it's not that big of a deal, like I get I'm so sorry, if you are a sports fan, it could be that big of a deal. 00:28:42.737 --> 00:28:46.364 I get it, people you know, but I don't know. 00:28:46.364 --> 00:28:52.181 So now we have a thing where whenever we go to see a show, he brings some fake pics with them. 00:28:52.181 --> 00:28:54.425 So if he catches, the real pic he will 00:28:54.486 --> 00:28:58.520 give the fake pic to the child oh, that's what you need to start doing. 00:28:58.520 --> 00:29:02.034 You start to you start bringing fake balls you know now I've attended. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.140 you know I was a baseball umpire for 15 years but I've attended a number. 00:29:03.140 --> 00:29:04.008 To start doing you start bringing fake balls. 00:29:04.008 --> 00:29:04.478 You know, now I've attended. 00:29:04.478 --> 00:29:08.071 You know I was a baseball umpire for 15 years but I've attended a number of games. 00:29:08.071 --> 00:29:17.221 I've never been even near a foul ball or a home run ball in the stands, never, not close to it Once. 00:29:17.221 --> 00:29:19.787 So I was like, and yeah so. 00:29:19.787 --> 00:29:23.722 And then these people who seem to always be in the right place at the right time. 00:29:24.464 --> 00:29:25.027 Always yeah. 00:29:26.915 --> 00:29:32.295 So, okay, I've got a couple of stories here. 00:29:32.295 --> 00:29:40.665 One of them I was speaking to my best friend from junior high and for those of you who are younger than me, that's middle school. 00:29:40.665 --> 00:29:55.981 Anyways, he is for the past few years he's been a director at a state agency and he got notification for the first time since he's been director that they get to not only hire but it's adding a headcount. 00:29:55.981 --> 00:30:07.082 It's one person, a whopping one person they're adding to the headcount and you know he's been searching and searching and he's just getting so pissed off through these interviews. 00:30:07.082 --> 00:30:10.992 And you know he's his current team. 00:30:10.992 --> 00:30:14.080 He has got a lot of people with a one to three years of experience. 00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:31.358 He's got like two people in that five to 10 years of experience and then everybody else is like him who've been doing it for 25 plus years, and so he wants someone with like five to 10 years of experience, that middle ground, to sort of even out his team a little bit. 00:30:32.300 --> 00:30:36.048 But he's doing all these interviews and he's finding these people. 00:30:36.048 --> 00:30:50.157 He's being sent these resumes with people with five to 10 years of experience, but they have one year here, two years there and he asked them questions that if someone's been working in their field for five to 10 years should know, and they don't have a clue. 00:30:50.157 --> 00:30:54.115 He says they've got one year of experience, five times and things like that. 00:30:54.115 --> 00:30:58.875 And then the term he used, which I thought was just brilliant, I'm going to steal it from him. 00:30:58.875 --> 00:31:00.839 He says they're job tourists. 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.643 They come in and they you know, oh, portland, oregon, so cool place to go. 00:31:06.643 --> 00:31:08.776 I'm going to go there and get a job and do this for a little while. 00:31:08.776 --> 00:31:12.807 And then, oh, let's go to Santa Fe, new Mexico, and that's a cool place to go. 00:31:12.807 --> 00:31:20.565 And you know, they just they jump around not focusing on they're getting jobs, they're employed, but they're not focusing on their career. 00:31:21.445 --> 00:31:27.721 And the thing is he can hire either one of two positions and he's running the problem with both. 00:31:27.721 --> 00:31:31.796 He hasn't decided which way he's going to go, so he's advertising both One. 00:31:31.796 --> 00:31:38.075 The main thing he really wants is someone to work out in the field and do field work, and that's his first priority. 00:31:38.075 --> 00:31:40.858 But if he can't find that, he's willing to settle Not settle. 00:31:40.858 --> 00:31:45.744 But he's also looking at a data scientist to do the work. 00:31:46.165 --> 00:31:56.337 Their field people come in and do their own data work and he says I could have more people out in the field more often. 00:31:56.337 --> 00:32:03.270 If I have a data scientist doing the backend stuff but he can't find either that they have know they they're have real experience. 00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:10.382 He's almost at the point where he's going to go to a college and just hire an entry level either way and develop them himself and he says it sucks that he's. 00:32:10.382 --> 00:32:24.387 Half his team is one to three years of experience and he wanted you know some more people because he wants to be out in the field and he says with all these one to three year people he's training and doing things like that in the field but he's not doing the work himself. 00:32:24.387 --> 00:32:26.303 So it's just really interesting. 00:32:26.303 --> 00:32:29.765 But I love the term job tourist with that. 00:32:31.939 --> 00:32:34.727 I guess you can afford to do that if you don't have to worry about finances. 00:32:35.295 --> 00:32:36.380 Yeah, bingo. 00:32:36.380 --> 00:32:38.541 I think that's the thing. 00:32:39.537 --> 00:32:40.361 There's a good story. 00:32:40.361 --> 00:32:42.077 You guys of course know Adam Sandler. 00:32:42.077 --> 00:32:42.538 That's the thing. 00:32:42.538 --> 00:32:43.000 There's a good story. 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:43.800 You guys of course know Adam Sandler. 00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:52.403 There in the 90s, apparently, he chose his jobs, the movies that he was going to do, based on where they were being filmed, so that he could take his family on vacations. 00:32:52.403 --> 00:32:53.246 That's funny. 00:32:54.617 --> 00:32:56.203 Hey, if you could do it. 00:32:56.203 --> 00:33:00.481 That's why he's doing 50 First States in Hawaii and things like that. 00:33:00.994 --> 00:33:03.203 What was the one that they went to Africa blended? 00:33:03.203 --> 00:33:10.403 Was that the one where it was like Drew Barrymore and they were like a blended family and they like both go like that would have been a really cool family vacation, yeah. 00:33:12.816 --> 00:33:18.220 Adam Sandler, drew Barrymore, in that that 51st States and those that year, they did a bunch of Never Been Kissed. 00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:20.454 Was that, yeah, never Been Kissed? 00:33:20.454 --> 00:33:22.175 And a bunch of other cool ones. 00:33:22.957 --> 00:33:26.979 Honestly, this is not HR related, but I watched Happy Gilmore 2. 00:33:26.979 --> 00:33:33.662 Oh yes, a couple weeks ago I was delightfully surprised at how much I enjoyed it. 00:33:33.662 --> 00:33:45.928 I was a big Happy Gilmore fan the original but I just thought the sequel was just so well done it was, and all of his daughters and his wife were in it and I was like he's such a good family. 00:33:45.948 --> 00:33:53.192 I mean I like I saw him do stand up like he did like a stand up show, a live show here and he's like half singing, half stand up. 00:33:53.192 --> 00:33:55.313 He just seems like such a good guy. 00:33:55.313 --> 00:34:00.866 Yeah, like I really hope he, I really hope he's not like the next Dave Grohl who just let us all down. 00:34:02.835 --> 00:34:04.442