Exploring the Enigma of Sasquatch: Conferences, Culture, and Conservation

Sasquatch enthusiasts, rejoice! Join us as we bring back the revered Tom Sewid, diving into his insightful contributions to Sasquatch research and the fascinating world of "Bigfoot Girl." Our latest episode serves as your exclusive pass to the rich tapestry of Sasquatch culture and lore, with a spotlight on the second annual US Phenomenon Sasquatch Conference and the third annual Forks Sasquatch Days. We delve into the heart of indigenous narratives that intertwine with the enigma of these elusive creatures, bolstered by insights from Dr. Robert Alley and Amy Boo, providing perspectives from two distinct worlds – those of indigenous communities and law enforcement.

The discussion takes a turn towards conservation as Tom Sewid shares his compelling work on Sasquatch protection laws. He sheds light on the grassroots movement to establish respectful guidelines for Sasquatch encounters, mirroring wildlife tours in British Columbia. We navigate the mysterious terrain of sightings and the cultural footprint they leave behind, with Tom unveiling an interactive map that pinpoints Sasquatch activity on the Olympic Peninsula. The conversation ventures into the untamed wilderness near Greenwater, where a trip unveils a series of intriguing signs that may connect native markers to Sasquatch legend, challenging us to consider the cultural implications of our interpretations.

Our journey through this episode culminates with a candid reflection on the diverse experiences and Native American integration at Sasquatch conferences nationwide. I share anecdotes from my own investigations, teasing the advanced technology that's edging us closer to the truth about Sasquatch existence. As we wrap up, I extend a heartfelt thank you to our community of listeners, whose passion for the unknown propels our continued exploration. Until we gather again, let the spirit of curiosity guide you through the cosmic enigma that connects us all.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to US Phenomenon, where possibilities are endless. Put down those same old headlines. It's time to expand your mind and question what if? From paranormal activity to UFOs, bigfoot sightings and unsolved mysteries, this is US Phenomenon?

Speaker 2: 0:22

It all began on a drive home from swing shift the radio, my only companion, the voice of the legendary art belt, filled the car. A beacon in the darkness, speaking worlds beyond our own, and stories untold that in secrets that kept just out of sight. That voice, those tales, ignited a spark within me, a drive to seek the truth and explore. Explore the phenomenon that lies just beyond the edge of reason. From whispers, from paranormal to echoes of the unknown. My quest began. So join me, fellow night travelers, as we continue this journey, delve into the enigmas of the night and uncovering the mysteries that await us. This is US Phenomenon, where the search for the answers never end and the adventure is just beginning. We have a big announcement. We have been working very diligently and very hard to bring you our second annual US Phenomenon Sasquatch Conference. Go to my website, onairmariocom, and click on the link to sign up. All right, because tickets will sell out fast.

Speaker 2: 1:38

Tonight we have a special guest who hasn't been here in quite some time, someone who has blessed us and has been a part of this franchise for almost since the beginning, and what's interesting about tom seawood is how it came to be someone who just believed in the podcast at a very baby stage of the of this infancy of the show. But what was interesting is like, when I go back during the pandemic, because that's when this show started was having him uh, how I came across tom. Um, so what's interesting about tom was tom was in a documentary that I was watching about bigfoot I think it was called Bigfoot, I don't know if it was on Netflix or where this all came to be. And I was watching these podcasters and I was like how is this possible? These podcasters are out searching for Sasquatch and I'm like they're terrible. This is garbage entertainment at its finest. But here I am watching.

Speaker 2: 2:47

In about 45 minutes into this thing, the young whippersnapper of Tom Seawood, who joins us from Sasquatch Island, jumps on this magnificent which I think at this point I'm like, oh, this is it. I'm like why the hell do they have him, these podcasters on? And I shouldn't say that. But if it wasn't for you, tom, who joins us here on the US Phenomenon show, welcome to the show, tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island. You were in a documentary that I was watching called Bigfoot Girl yes, that one. And what's interesting to me was she was kind of attractive and I think that's what kind of had me hook line and sinkered in and then it was like I was like, wait, I have a podcast, how do I get my stuff on on the internet like that, or in netflix or wherever I watched it at. And, tom, when you came on, and you guys, I believe you're in vancouver island, uh, doing some research, and, um, man, it was just interesting to watch how you just came in and just stole the show by far.

Speaker 2: 3:59

Your pieces are so entertaining. This is why I love having you on every time is the components of what you bring to the table are so valuable, and I think that every time you come on, I always learn something new. And that's the beauty about this, and I know we've had you talk. We always have these conversations off air about doing the next sasquatch conference. We're getting people asking about when are we going to do another one, but what's cool is there's actually one coming up at the end of the month. Uh for uh I want to say memorial day. You guys are doing the third annual forks sasquatch, uh, legendscom conference, right, is that? Who's presenting this?

Speaker 3: 4:40

it's a 2024 forks sasquatch days put on by the town of Forks and SasquatchLegendcom. I'm actually here in the back room storage area and work area. I took a job with them about five weeks ago because they needed someone to help and I said, hey, I'll go. I'll go live in Forks because I get to go investigate Sasquatch when I'm not working.

Speaker 3: 5:03

So I'm here and I'll be emceeing the conference. It'll be held on the Memorial day-long weekend, may 24th to the 26th. It'll be taking place we're going to close one of the side streets down beside the venue called the Forks Hall, right across the street from SasquatchLegendcom, and you know I'll be emceeing my wife Peggy. She'll be performing our traditional Chonokwa Sasquatch regalia of our Kwakwaka'wakw Nation. As I talk, we also have Squatch America, that's Scott and Hannah Violet. Dr Robert Alley everyone knows him Raincoast Sasquatch Brushes with Bigfoot two of his books and he's been on numerous conferences and TV shows. We have Rich Girmou, who used to live in Forks and he was a police officer and he has some incidents with Sasquatch and he enlightens us with his beliefs and perspectives from the spiritual side. And we have Amy Boo, co-founder of Project Zoo Book and one of the Olympic project members. She'll be speaking along with Cindy Goodbreak.

Speaker 3: 6:19

I requested Cindy to come to this conference this year because she's a North American Indian from eastern Washington and she brings a lot of information and counter stories from eastern Washington from the North American Indian perspective. You got to remember those Indian reserves out there are vast and most investigators can't get in there because they're out of bounds only for tribe members. So she's going to be sharing that with us and, of course, shane Corson from the Olympic Project. He'll be speaking as well, so it's a good lineup. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to have a lot of vendors. Hopefully we'll have no rain Not that it ever does rain in Forks. Look at this Indian.

Speaker 2: 7:00

I'm rusting out here, right, uh, tom, I I gotta ask you know it's it's been a while since we've had you on and I know there's so much going on out there in the world of uh conferences and people doing different things and I I guess let's really get back to the basics. What's been going on out there, what? What are you hearing? What's the beat of the drum of the latest intel in regards to the elusive Sasquatch Bigfoot?

Speaker 3: 7:32

Basically I don't listen to podcasts myself. I get interviewed quite a bit. A lot of people ask me about it.

Speaker 3: 7:40

I don't listen to them myself. I do more boots on the ground. When I got here to Forks I put my few days of work in and I had a day off. So the reason I wanted to investigate here is because some young man from Forks came in and he said I understand, you're an investigator, I have a report.

Speaker 3: 7:59

A couple nights ago he goes, I live at the edge of the wood, three-quarter of a mile east of here, at the edge of town, where the forests start, and he said something, banged my trailer two or three times and started to shake it. The pictures were banging against the walls, things were falling off shelves, dishes and pots and pans were making noise. He goes. I didn't know what it was. So I ran to the door and I opened it and I was looking out the door, where the screen door was with glass, and there was a big Sasquatch. It turned and looked at me and grimaced, turned and just bolted, jumped across the creek in the backyard and disappeared into the forest. So right there, I asked him how big was it? And he figured it was around seven and a half feet tall and big shoulders, a standard norm, a big male, more likely a scout or a hunter. So right away I went boots on ground.

Speaker 3: 8:51

You know, after being a hunting guide for over 24 years and living in the bush for over 26 years in northeastern vancouver island, british columbia, I used all my bush skills and I went in there. I was dressed in neutral colors greens and I just went stealth. I was crawling most of the time using trees to hide and peak and brushes brush to crawl through. And my knees I remember my knees getting really wet and sore because I have bad knees from 49 years being a commercial fisherman but I just kept on. And then I was going to the top of the knoll because that's where Sasquatches will sleep during the daytime and they'll have a scout watch and, of course, for any perceived threat. And I was trying not to be seen.

Speaker 3: 9:35

But there was a little grassy area between some hemlock trees, so I crawled across it and I was halfway across it, bang, I heard a tree knock above me and I knew damn well I was bingoed by a scout Sasquatch. I rolled into the bush, I tested the wind and I used the wind to my advantage and, suspecting they were looking at where I'd went across the grass, I actually went downhill and I skirted up behind them downwind and as I was going up the hill, hill that's when all of a sudden I heard bang, bang, bang, bang, snap, big tree break. And I kept. And then I stood up and I ran and that's what I could hear, two big somethings just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. When they ran down the back side of that knoll and of course I never saw them I got up to where they were, you could put my hand down and, uh duff for the forest, under the spruce trees and hemlock, and you could feel the warmth and you can smell it a bit.

Speaker 3: 10:32

And then, off to my right, there was the tree break. So I got to go up there with a saw yet and cut it and bring the tree break. Because where I'm at right now, in the back of SasquatchLegendcom, we have been talking about the possibility of this fall, winter, early spring, me staying here and making this whole room, I guess 4,000 square feet, into a Sasquatch museum with a heavy North American Indian cultural component, something very unique for Sasquatch museums. But you know, know, that's what's been happening with me is, you know, I'm in forks, washington, the olympic peninsula hot spot, and I've been getting reports pretty much every week and boots to the ground.

Speaker 2: 11:16

So anyone wants to come join me, come out here, grab a motel or a campsite and let's go investigate you know it's funny because, uh, the last time I was, well, I wasn't in forks, I was more near, uh, what is it? I would say the heart of the hills, which I was, the campground, the national park there, uh, uh, just on your way up to, uh, hurricane ridge, um, what's interesting? How are you a campground? Yeah, somewhere in the yeah, I forget the name of, I think it was, uh, heart of the hills. I believe it was called as a campground.

Speaker 2: 11:52

Um, so, when I talk, I, I guess I I didn't go all the way to force, but, tom, you, before going to forks, you were in kent doing boots on ground in enumclaw, buckley, mount, rainier, uh area, right, and I mean so you now boots on ground up in what is probably a hot spot, because there is another group that's out there. What is it? The olympic project? Right, I haven't had a lot of olympic project. I haven't spent a lot of time with them, uh, on the show, and they haven't, yeah, I don't think they've ever been on the show, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2: 12:29

Um, what's interesting to me is that is a hot spot over there where you're at, and, uh, it's great to to get these stories from you, and and I mean right away, it's like man, these are great stories, but some of the experts, including yourself, I should just say the encounters that you and I have, the conversations that you and I have had in the past, always have been super consistent, tom, and that's the one thing I love about having you come on the show to give someone like myself, who I've never had any of this experience and I know that you're like dude, you got to come out with me in the bush I, let alone barely have time to do the show and the podcast, let alone go out and do research.

Speaker 2: 13:14

Thank God you and teams like yourself exist, and the last time we we talked and we had this conversation about you know, people getting involved and seeing the money component right, of course, there's a dollar to be made in these conferences, but the government's getting involved to say, hey, you can no longer search for Sasquatch. I know you had been working on some projects about preserving the research component to be able to still do research and say, nope, you can't do this anymore. How has that been coming along?

Speaker 3: 13:53

The government knows one thing in Canada and the US Don't screw around with us Indians. We're more Canadian and more American than they will ever be in a government position if they aren't an Indian. So in other words, they might call it state land in the US and they might call it crown land in Canada, but to us Indians it's our land, always has been and, as the court case is showing, it's ours. So the government knows they can flap their lips all they want, chatter, chatter like a sasquatch about stopping us from going into the forest. But you know we have our constitutions in both canada and the us and we have a lot of freedoms and they better not impede on that, especially for indians. Or an indian who's bringing people out to go? Look for a sasquatch. You know it's just.

Speaker 2: 14:39

There's boundaries they have to realize that they can't cross and I for those who, who I don't know if people do do or do not know that you, you can't. In the state of washington, it's illegal to actually hunt for a sasquatch. In regards to shoot one down and kill him or her, um, I know that that was a dixie ray law back in those days, that that was before my time, but I do know that that law exists and the counties have their you know laws too about in regards to Sasquatch, the Washington State I believe there's what four that have.

Speaker 3: 15:19

I don't know if it's a bylaw or what, but I know they have you know regulations that they don't condone any hunting of the Sasquatch, which you know me, of course, is 100% staunch advocate of no kill, no disrespect and no harm, no trapping. You know, that's one of the things I've been doing. Since I spoke with you last. I wrote in the fall-winter chance encounter and investigating of Sasquatch guidelines. It's just a template of recommendations so that the government doesn't come and shove it down our throats.

Speaker 3: 15:51

We did it with the grizzly bear tours and the whale watching up in British Columbia.

Speaker 3: 15:55

We knew the government was going to come with some bureaucrat in some office who's never been out in the water or in the bush and been on a grizzly bear expedition tour or hunted them or whale watched.

Speaker 3: 16:08

So we came up with recommendations that we gave to the government and they used that to bring in, you know, strengthen some laws and to put regulation out pertaining to yeah, you can do grizzly bear tours, you can do whale watching, seal and sea lion, eagle, bird watching, but here's the regulations you have to adhere to that were recommended by the first nations, the indians and by industry that were participating doing whale and bear watching. And that's what I'm saying that we, as a community of enthusiasts that want to investigate sasquatch and commercial operators that are doing tours and making art and selling things and having conferences, we need to sit down, look at my recommendations for guidelines, add to it, amend things, and then we give that to the governments and go. Here's our recommendations, you know, and that's, you know, simple as tomseawood at gmailcom and I'll send you the draft that I've come up with. And that's as simple as tomseawood at gmailcom and I'll send you the draft that I've come up with and it's pretty in-depth.

Speaker 2: 17:10

Our guest tonight, tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island, who is hanging out at his new second home, from home, I guess, at sasquatchthelegendscom. Tom, in all these times that we've, you know, had conversations talked about you know, you know, having sasquatch be so rich. Do you find that washington state, out of all your travels, do you find that washington or vancouver has the most concentrated amount of sasquatches? For, for this area, for turtle island, as you call it, right is it? Is that right did?

Speaker 3: 17:47

I call. I called indians call north america turtle island. I call it sasquatch island because everyone indian tribes and everyone else has stories from the states, province and territories where they live about the large hair covered by beetle creatures known as Sasquatch Bigfoot. Momo Grassman Skunk Ape. The list goes on.

Speaker 2: 18:08

And why is? I don't want to interrupt you, but go ahead. Finish your thought there.

Speaker 3: 18:14

But in answer to your question, I think British Columbia and all my investigating and living I think British Columbia when you get away from the urbanized areas you're probably going to have a better chance of an encounter up there, washington State they seem to be from my investigating that they seem to be more withdrawn away from the urban centers.

Speaker 3: 18:36

There is the few urban Sasquatches like in Edomclaw, buckley, up by the White River, muckleshoot, indian Reserve, east side of Renton, washington, here on the Olympic Peninsula. But if you get towards Port Angeles and then down towards the highway that leads to Puyallup in Seattle area there's all the houses and urbanization and there's very few encounters that you hear reported from that area. But here up on the central, to the tip of the Olympic Peninsula, there's reports all over and we just actually produced with my team the Olympic Peninsula interactive map which will be going live on Sasquatch Island here in the next week or so and it'll be icons with Sasquatch silhouettes for sightings that you click with your mouse or your pad and all of a sudden it'll pop up a little bubble with the date, what happened, what they saw awesome.

Speaker 2: 19:39

That's great, tom. I'm gonna have to link that on their website so it'll drive traffic for anyone who's looking for a Sasquatch, who may be on our page looking for something. And this is something I've continued to tell everyone. It's a community thing, and my 2024 goal was to continue to local promote other things that other local community members may be doing, such as yourself. Other things that other local community members may be doing, such as yourself, tom, who now have a will have an active interactive where you can look at this kind of thing, and this is great, because then I it links straight to your website and then the boom, here it, here it is. Here's what I want to ask well, if you're going all right.

Speaker 3: 20:19

If you go to sasquatchislandcom, my website, right at the bottom of the home page are the five banners with links to the five conferences that I'm participating at and performing speaking at over the next five months, and then at the bottom of the home page is my vancouver island interactive map of sightings encounters that I've recorded and remembered through the years and wrote down, and then there's the Canadian Sasquatch map and then that's where the Olympic Peninsula map will be going.

Speaker 2: 20:52

And when we talk about these and I want to get into the component of the different types of Sasquatches that have been reported and I think, tom, that you know, and I think, tom, that you know, as you talked about the bipedal there are components where people will talk about sasquatch and they go in a different direction, in a dimension where it talks about look, okay, this is where it always gets very strange, because everyone has their own opinion about the elusive bigfoot sasquatch. For me, this is the one opinion I always give. I'm a believer that I want my Sasquatch to be indigenous to the planet. You know, I believe that's my theory. Okay, I don't tell anyone. Whatever, this is me. That's my own opinion. I typically don't give a lot of opinions on this show, but's mine.

Speaker 2: 21:46

Now, I know there are other people that we've had on the show and there are other individuals who out there believe that bigfoot may be some type of trans-dimensional creature. Right, and would. When you run across people that I and I know you're very respectful about how you come across this, does that? Do you have an open mind to those stories? Do you listen to those stories or how much of it? I mean, I should be very careful, because someone who comes to you, who may not be in the community right, who, like myself, who don't go to conferences or we don't put on conferences well, that's not true, but you know what I mean like a general bystander who may have come across, seen bigfoot sasquatch but then watched them leave in regards to like disappearing through the bro, through the bush, through the woods, and all of a sudden they're gone, but to them they thought they went through this time warp or whatever that portal might have been. Have you heard stories like that? That are not people, that are I witness.

Speaker 3: 22:58

Yeah, I'm a critterist, I'm bigfootfoot, without the BS.

Speaker 3: 23:03

You know, I used to belong to Monster X Radio and that was our logo and, having six close encounters with Sasquatch within six to ten feet and well over 30 encounters where I could smell them, hear them, know they're around me, I never experienced anything like cloaking mind speaking, turning into orbs, flying in UFOs and, you know, jumping through portals, so.

Speaker 3: 23:29

But I did have something happen to me where I was harvesting shellfish just before dark and the tide was low and it was just starting to rise, and I was towing my speedboat behind me and you know, six inches, eight inches of water, with hip boots on, bending down, picking up cockles, a favorite food of sasquatch and all I remember is looking up to my right and there was the long all I can remember is the longest legged black bear I'd ever seen in my life and that was probably around eight o'clock at night. The next thing, you know, I woke up four hours later tied to a kelp patch three and a half miles away in my speedboat, and to this day I don't know what happened in that three and a half, four and a half hour period and to me what it is is what I call a mental band-aid. When someone has had a very traumatic experience be it, you know, abused, raped, shipwrecked, sinking you know we don't see everyone every day and start squawking off about what happened to us. We sort of close it.

Speaker 3: 24:33

Sure there's some negative things PTSD, and the list goes on. But after you had a traumatic event, it's like your mind kicks in and protects you with that mental band-aid. And that's what I think happens with a lot of the people that see cloaking, portal jumping, ufo flying, turning into an orb, and who had a mind speaking experience, right. Well, I think, when I get to the mind speakers, I kind of think, you know, I think those people are, they've felt like an inferior human quite a bit in their life when they're trying to be grandiose and bigger and I just don't buy it. You know, it's like I say, I've had a lot of experiences.

Speaker 3: 25:13

I lived in Bush for months at a time. Sometimes I didn't have a fire for a couple of weeks. Why bother having a fire? I ran out of cigarettes two weeks ago. No use having a fire. I ran out of cigarettes two weeks ago, no use having a fire, thinking, geez, I wish I could have a smoke, because I smell smoke and I didn't want to smell like smoke because carrying my 22 or my and my 12 gauge, because I always had, you know, shotgun and rifle, but you know, sometimes it was a 338 or 30, 30, if you know, I don't have a lot of guns, but I didn't want to smell like smoke because the animals will smell me before I see them or hear them. And you know I'd have a lot of guns, but I didn't want to smell like smoke because the animals will smell me before I see them or hear them.

Speaker 3: 25:48

And you know you're trying to eat. You know you I'd go out in two weeks I'd be out of coffee, cigarettes and you know that was it. You're just eating like a Sasquatch, reaching out, grabbing, bending over, rolling, lifting, digging. And you know you want to be able to see that grouse or that deer and you don't want them to smell smoke. But so at night, when you're sleeping, and you bush, you go to sleep before it's dark. What do you want to be awake for? At dark, noises and the smells are going to scare you.

Speaker 3: 26:18

You know it's dark time and you go to sleep and you wake up in the middle of the night and you look at smelling away and all of a sudden you smell that body odor like a street person times 30, that human stench that just wants to make you gag and you get a whiff of that. You know darn well what it is. The Sasquatch is casing you out, checking you out, and it's downwind from you, smelling you. That's why you can barely smell them and you know so.

Speaker 3: 26:52

Not having fires, you know it takes a while to get used to, because fire security always has been, since we first started clicking rocks together or getting fire from a lightning strike. But anyway, out there in a bush, it's a whole different mentality that you have to have in order to survive, and that's how I think. When I go out looking for Sasquatch, I think like them. I've lived like them for months out there, so you know. It's why, when I listen to people coming up with these things, what we call woo-woo, all these supernatural, stupendous things that apparently happen, I think they just got so scared when they got close to the Sasquatch, their mental band-aid kicked in and they came up with a UFO flying, portal, jumping. And when it comes to cloaking, sasquatch has forgotten more than we will ever know about being camouflaged and blending in and breaking silhouette and blending in with the background, and so that's how I look at it.

Speaker 2: 27:53

Tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island. I was looking up some stuff here. Here's the website here. If you ever get a chance to take a look, go to the website. Go to Tom's website here. We have so much going on. It's got your conferences here, the boat stuff. Here's what I wanted to ask you.

Speaker 2: 28:14

So when I was doing this drive, I was actually trying to pull up a map so that you could take a look at this. But I was driving off 410 and we went to go to some hike which was supposed to be. It was off of 410. Before you get to Greenwater, is that right, greenwater, over there Greenwater, and you turn green water. So you turn off the highway. Off of 410, you go over the cross. There's like a helicopter pad there and there's some dirt roads. I was trying to pull it up on the map while you know multitasking, because you know lazy producer didn't do his work and um.

Speaker 2: 28:53

So we drove up this highway, up 410, took the road and now we're on the back cut, we're on the back roads, now we're on the forest service roads and so we're looking for the trailhead to go up. So we start driving. We hit the first pitch where the gate is open. So we go and we can. You know we're driving, we have the, the german shepherd, with us. He's, you know, I, I brought him. I was like, no, let's bring him. And so we're going up and in the first we got to the second one and everything was cool as we continued driving up the road. What was different was when we got to like this area where, after we drove through, there were sticks, tom, there was like I don't remember they were, they weren't big branches, but they were large enough, but they were like six I don't remember how many, but there was enough that we had to take the four-wheel drive vehicle and drive over them. And I was like, oh, that's odd that they would be right in the middle of the road. So then I'm kind of looking around and I'm seeing piles of rocks as well, but organized and stacked accordingly to look like a little pyramid. And I'm like, well, jesus Christ, I'm like we're way the hell up here. And I'm like, well, I don't know who's up here, but somebody is up here. Then we run into the next pile of wood and they were larger logs and I was like, okay, someone doesn't want us going up here any further, we're going to turn around. We're going to go back down the mountain. The dog was barking at this point. We turned the vehicle around, we drive back down.

Speaker 2: 30:27

I don't know I never got out of the vehicle. I wasn't packing heat, obviously for other purposes. Why I didn't bring it, that's beyond my stupidity. But looking back that time frame, off of 410, I went back to look to see if there were any stories and I believe someone said that there was some encounters up in the green water area. I don't know if it was near the um, the restaurant where, uh, they have their kind of thing going on with the sasquatch bigfoot. I, I just don't recall, but I, I, I to me, didn't? I felt like somebody else was up there it's number one.

Speaker 3: 31:14

You said you're on the road. You're driving, came across wood.

Speaker 2: 31:18

Well, I'm not word across the road than a bigger pile not right, right there tells me it's human on on a, not on the highway, that, not the highway but itself, but the, the, the forest service road. Yeah, the fight the other yeah.

Speaker 3: 31:31

So right there, that tells me it's human, probably got a marijuana patch out there or something. They don't want people going there. So you know most of the people like you know, they know whoever's going to go with a four-wheel drive and drive over their stick piles means business. They probably got a nine millimeter and a rifle and a shotgun in their cab of their truck. So they don't want to really blockade them and anger them, but they're trying to keep the cityites guys going up there with two-wheel drive, low-ride vehicles. You know things that you know I've, because I know I've done the same thing.

Speaker 3: 32:02

And then the rock piles. You know this rock piling thing. There's only two encounters that I've read about and one of them was a cat skinner who had a break and jumped out of his cat, walked up a hill and he saw the sasquatches digging through the scree pile where the avalanche and boulders have gone down for years and they're piling the rocks up. And then he got into the rodent nests and were eating them and he witnessed all this. And dr john late dr john bernard, my good friend, he actually went to that place, wherever it it is, in British Columbia or Washington and actually saw the holes dug into the boulder piles from that side of that mountain and could still see the remnants of the piles the Sasquatches had piled up. And I heard one other case which was from a native Indian up in northern British Columbia. That's comparable Avalanche scree pile going after rodents ground squirrels rocks are still there. I saw the pictures.

Speaker 3: 33:02

I never went there myself, but then for the last 25, 30 years while I was out in my native territories being a native watchman and even going out there hunting, harvesting Sasquatch, investigating. To this day those stupid yahoos from the concrete cities. They go out and they make these little stupid balancing piles of rocks. Well, we Indians have piles of rocks for a reason and we know what our signs and piles are supposed to look like. So I'm always kicking them down and throwing boulders all over the place, going stupid concreteites. Why the hell don't they just mind their look like? So I'm always kicking them down and throwing boulders all over the place, going stupid concrete heights. How don't they just mind their business with piling rocks out in the bush there's a reason for piled rocks and they don't have a clue what that reason is and it could confuse someone that needs to know that there's food stashed there. They might think see a pile and go hey, there's cash of food and I've been, you know, lost. I dig away and expel all this energy. There is no food because some stupid city I went and piled rocks there. So don't pile rocks and sasquatches. They ain't gonna put sticks on a side road and they ain't gonna put piles of rocks out there looking all cute and hippie, because they don't want you hairless humans to know that they're in that region right there. So they don't do things like that.

Speaker 3: 34:18

The only times they'll leave structures is when they have their teepee structures and lean twos that are menstrual and birthing huts for the sasquatch females, because males can't be around it. It's taboo even for us indian humans for thousands of years and even when I was a grizzly bear hunting guide, whoever I was with at the time girlfriend, because I wasn't married back then they knew that if they were in that time of the month, tom was sleeping on the couch or the other bedroom because I couldn't be around that menstrual blood. Because it's taboo, it's gonna damage me, I'm not gonna be able to get my animals or I might make it dangerous when I'm being a grizzly bear hunting guide. So that's why Sasquatches have teepee structures and lean-to's against rock walls and big trees and then you know there's no, they don't retain water, snow, wind or retain heat and that's all they are is signboards. There's a female Sasquatch in here with female blood, be it birthing or menstrual.

Speaker 3: 35:18

So you know you've got to really look at these and I know a lot of people put a lot of oats into rock piles and X's. I can't believe. I just shake my head when I hear X's and I watch these people. I'm like don't they know? The wind blows, blows a tree down from the southeast, blows a tree down from the southeast, blows another tree down from the northwest. You get an X and you know it's just. You got to use your frontal lobes when you're out in the bush. You can't just look at everything and go, oh, that's a Sasquatch. That Sasquatch did that. No, some hippie or some cityite went and piled the rocks up.

Speaker 2: 35:49

Tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island is hanging out with us this evening, who is getting ready for the third annual Forks Sasquatch Conference, which is going to be May 24th through the 26th. So if you're looking for something to do and you're ready to get out of town, look for something. We're going to try and make it out there. It's going to be a fun event. We're going to try and do some streaming out there as well. Uh, that I'm excited about that.

Speaker 2: 36:17

Um, tom, I know we've talked about this before and and this and this is interesting to me, and I know we talked about sasquatch rogue, going rogue and these different stories back in the day.

Speaker 2: 36:27

For those who may have never heard these stories, I still am a firm believer this is an interesting one to me. Now we know that, uh, that assistant professor from the University of Washington went missing in Mount Rainier and here's why I asked this, tom. It's very interesting to me that a gentleman who went into the Mother Mountain trail, which is a 14 mile, I believe, loop, and the time of year was like late september, early october, I believe he still hasn't to be if he. No one has found him. His family said he had gear. What's interesting to me is that the only thing they found was his water bottle. Where was the rest of his tent backpack, everything else? Now I ask you this because do you think that someone who goes hiking in these I don't want to go down the missing 411 path, but I'm just asking is it possible that when you go out hiking I know it could a Sasquatch take a human and just be like out you go?

Speaker 3: 37:45

Oh yeah, you know I had red kidney beans for lunch today. But my ancestors, the society I belong to, called hamatsa. You know we used to eat beans human beans, you know, and most pacific northwest coastal indigenous tribes used to practice that with different societies, or even up in the arctic, as early as uh recent as uh 1942, during the second world war. You know the canadian government was so involved with the Second World War they forgot about the Inuit, what they used to call Eskimos up in the Arctic, and community faced starvation and they went to cannibalism. You know Andy Mountains plane crash.

Speaker 3: 38:28

So you know, that's why I always say the Sasquatches they like humans, they like beans, like beans, human beings. At times, you know, you think about it. You know survival, survival. You know you wouldn't want to get in a shipwreck or a plane crash with me because I'll be looking at the weakest one of the bunch and thinking how we're gonna smoke them up. You know you gotta live. That's bush instinct and a lot of people have forgotten that. The sasquatch has it.

Speaker 3: 38:54

So when a rogue gets as a head of a sasquatch clan, nature's hold dictates that any pack that has a dominant male female, another dominant male will eventually boot him out, beat up, kill them in some cases, but regardless the head of the Sasquatch clan, wolfpack, lion Pride, and the list goes on when they get ousted. Just like me, when my mother and my children pointed at the door on 2008, march 14th, and said get the beep out of here. I don't want you a part of this life, no more. We're splitting up, I almost snapped. All I wanted to do because I lost everything in a court case eight months prior $640,000 judgment they gave me. All I wanted to do when I came back to Vancouver Island was to go hunt those two humans down, but something stopped me.

Speaker 3: 39:53

A sign stopped me in Campbell River and I chose to bounce Instead of going to a deeper, darker level, but I know what it's like for a Sasquatch If all of a sudden you lose your children, access to be near them, you lose the access to mating with your mate. You're no longer the dominant male and when it comes to the clan, you the clan eating the elk or a deer or whatever Sasquatch is eating. Do you think the dominant male Sasquatch now is going to allow the past dominant male to be anywhere near them eating? No, so same with me. I don't have my wife's ex-two husbands visiting us or coming to the house, nor would I ever man get out of here. You know, come around, sniffing around. She's my lady now. That's the way sasquatch is at, the way real men should act. So with sasquatches, when they lose their leadership and their access to their children and their clan and their mate, it's like some people go postal, something snaps and that sasquatch gets meaner and bigger, and now he's.

Speaker 3: 40:58

I've been close to a rogue and I know him. I did. I knew that I couldn't go mushroom picking or hunting or shellfish digging on these two islands because he liked to throw things at me and he got more and more aggressive the third time I was near him. So I didn't push boundaries. I'm not gonna mushroom pick or hunt or dig shellfish in those two islands. They're his. He's a rogue, he's always been a loner and reports of him go back 20 years and he's done some pretty mean things to humans. But you know, if you push his boundaries and he starts throwing things at you or shaking foliage or tree knocking or tree breaking or pounding his chest or charging at you and stopping, but you can't see him. Or even if you do see him, you'd be a dumb human and keep going. You're going to be a steaming coiler on that forest floor the next day because he's going to chaw down on a good chunk of your flesh.

Speaker 3: 41:52

That's bush code and you know these people go missing. It's unquestionable. Sasquatches are taking some of the people that are going missing out there and not finding stuff. Well, to me, sasquatches are just a superb, perfect human. They don't have tools, weapons, so they don't have warfare, but they do have cannibalism, us hairless humans. They probably eat their own as well, because you know bush is bush and you're going to be hungry. In bush you're going to eat whatever you can eat, and Sasquatches are following that code of nature and the ones that snap, they're the ones that get bigger, more aggressive, and those are the ones. When you study the missing people thing which I don't, but I mean I've heard a few stories from up in northern british columbia where they suspect some of their missing indigenous people are from sasquatches and you know they have hard evidence on that, but they don't talk about it and things like that. They just make sure that people go in the bush two or more and carry firearms tom, when we talk about sasquatch rogues, and what is that?

Speaker 2: 43:01

what do we typically think a live lifespan of a sasquatch might be? I mean, if we had to guess, are we talking like 75, 80 years? Are we talking shorter than that?

Speaker 3: 43:11

Well, most hairless humans think they're superior to a Sasquatch, so they come up with you know, oh, they probably lived like we used to live before medication. You know 45, maybe 55 years on average. When you're an investigator like me and you've been an Indian for 59 years, you dig in deeper and you talk to those Indian shaman from different tribes, like I did in Nebraska and Northwest Territories, alberta, british Columbia, washington State, and the list goes on. And then you find out, like the Omaha's taught me, they call their Sasquatch sitonga, keeper of the medicine and the medicine. People I spoke to there told me that they put plants out from root to leaf, the bud, whatever different seasons, they put the same plants out and the Sasquatches have an offering of food put out as well. And at nighttime they come to their yards and they'll pick off the bark or the roots or the buds or the flowers or leaves that are good in that time of the year, that season, for medicine, and they push the rest off the table or remove it from what they pick off, take their food off.

Speaker 3: 44:20

Shamans from Native tribes when you investigate and actually read a book nowadays because there's those great things called books that were written in the 1800s and 1900s. And when you read about the Indian people at an anthropological level, a path of anthropological gaining of knowledge from the Indian people, from the books that were written about us different tribes, you'll find that our shaman apprentices would disappear for months, years at a time. And when they returned to the tribe they had all that knowledge up there about the medicinal plants and remedies and poultices and seasons of harvest. Well, what those shaman apprentices were doing was learning to trade by living and interacting with the Sasquatches. And that's why people need to listen to me. If you want to be a Sasquatch investigator, the area you're going to investigate, consult protocol with the local Indian tribe. You're going to investigate, consult protocol with the local Indian tribe. Find out, say to hello, I mean no harm, hello, I come in peace. Hello, I don't know who you are. Goodbye, you know, I'm not a threat. Learn that, even if it's pigeon Indian, you're going to say Right, but you'll find that those Sasquatches know because they were interacting with that Indian tribe. Shaman, some tribes are even still doing it. In this modern day, most people go oh, no, in this day of cell phones, there's no way. Yeah, there's Indians.

Speaker 3: 45:44

There's a reason why a lot of Indian reserves are out of bounds for Sasquatch investigators. And you know more and more now the industry is exploding like a supernova of Sasquatch the industry and Sasquatchology, the study and enthusiasts and conferences. The Indians now are starting to step up going. Okay, we're going to have to come with some tribal laws pertaining to Sasquatch. You know like you can't come into our Indian reservation and if you are going to come in our traditional territories, consult with us. And you know, to come in our traditional territories, consult with us. And you know that's what us Indians call protocol and permissions. And you know something that everyone should do if they want to investigate Sasquatch. You know get along with your fellow humans.

Speaker 2: 46:26

For sure. Do you feel like the industry has changed since 2020 in regards to? Do you feel like it's stagnant's still the same? Uh, conferences that you've seen? If you were to say, if you were to tell the average like someone like myself who's never attended a conference what would be the ultimate conference someone should attend? Should they start out at a small one? Should they go to? Uh, maybe they, maybe they're, maybe every. I swear to you, tom, everyone has a little bit of curiosity about the sasquatch. Where were we sending these?

Speaker 3: 47:05

oh, absolutely like medellin falls. You know we're catering to, you know it's there's. Uh, we found for the last three years that the local Indian tribes, they have a few people participating but not many, and that's why we have only two North American Indians in the lineup. But whereas you know, and non-Indians aren't really interested in listening to Indians out here in, you know this area, that's what we found. And then you got Kelso Longview, where I was talking to a gentleman here where he attended it this year and he had this company Where's my Fry Bread, was invited down there by the people and he said oh my God, they don't like Indians down there in Kelso Longview. Tom, I'm like I can't believe you went there. He goes. Oh man, they didn't see me and see that I was selling bannock and I was Indian. They go, walk way around my booth, he goes. I had a prime location but I didn't make bunker all for money, because none of those non-Indians wanted my bannock and my bannock tacos. So every area is different, whereas Medellin Falls, I was helping them develop the lineup last year and I racked and stacked it with Indians.

Speaker 3: 48:19

And you know what? Stephen Major held his conference the same weekend in Spokane, not an hour and a half south of us and he stacked it with non-Indians. He had what? 182 people show up at his conference. We had over 6,500 to 7,500 Saturday and even more on Sunday where the first time ever I've been to a Sasquatch conference on Sunday morning talking to all of the vendors because I helped coordinate that one Sure, and they were just like I'm sold out, dude, he goes, I'm waiting for my wife to show up with a few wind chimes or this and that.

Speaker 3: 48:56

The other thing. And we had to drive last night to go get potatoes from a 24-hour store in spokane because we ran out of potatoes for what we sell and that was so fulfilling to hear that the vendors are running out of stuff after first day and we had over 6500500 to 7,500 and what I saw was it was because I asked people when they came to my booth why are you here? Because of you, you got all this Indian stuff, all these. There's t-shirts and books and different things, and there's other Indians here and they're speaking. And they brought in Jesus Payan who was on Breaking Bad season one and two playing Gonzo the bad Hispanic guy, but he's actually got Mayan and North American Indian blood in him and he was there because he's a member, he runs Breaking Bad and he couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3: 49:47

First Sasquatch conference he ever attended. And he goes, tom. They were so welcoming and they wanted to know about me. I said yeah. I said uh, but you got to watch what conferences you go to, though somewhere you know they don't really care for the native indian part or participation. So you got to really watch, I think.

Speaker 2: 50:08

I think, when we talk about conferences and interactivity, uh, it's key to me, like when there are so many out here, I I try to protect and preserve what I promote, how I promote it. Um, so, if you get a chance and you're looking for something to do, uh, on on. You know, labor day weekend a memorial day, excuse me you can go see the 2024 Sasquatch Forks Sasquatch Days, may 24th through the 26th, right there at the Rainforest Arts Center, 35 North Forks Avenue in Forks, washington. You can go to sasquatchlegendscom. We'll have a link posted if you're looking to get tickets. Tom, I got to ask you. You always go out, you're always in the bush. You're always learning something new In all of your discoveries, in all the research you've done over your career. Do you feel that you're closer now, or do you feel that you're closer now or do you feel like you're further away from catching said Sasquatch?

Speaker 3: 51:23

I've bagged and tagged him on a trail camera, sure Flur, for 60 minutes and 40 seconds. Partner in my team that I sent cell phone because he lives in Indian Reserve in Omaha and he didn't have any money so we sent him home when he visited. We flew him out to Seattle to go investigating and show him the Pacific Northwest and sent him home with his smart as smartphone floor for his cell phone for night and a week later he phoned me. He goes, tom, I'm sorry it took me so long to get a video of a sasquatch sitanga. But here you go. I uploaded it to the cloud. I looked for the cloud. I'm like what are you apologizing for? I said I figured a month to six months before you got anything and it took you not even a week. So yeah, I've bagged and tagged the furry bugger and I will do it again.

Speaker 3: 52:18

I got a p1000 nikon camera with a built-in zoom lens and goes about that long and man, you can see craters on the moon with that thing. And uh, trail cameras, parabolic listening devices, flir that attaches into my cell phone, fl. Flir Monoscope, scout 2. So I got all the bells and whistles and you know I'm trying to get that good video. Good, I'm trying to get an interaction going. So you know, as far as you know, am I closer now? I think I am, because I got all the fancy electronics now, sure.

Speaker 3: 52:49

And I'll be able to record it, Whereas back in the day I didn't have a camera. I didn't have a camera, I didn't have a cell phone. I'd be like, hey look, there's a Sasquatch down the beach and we all look at it, smoke our cigarettes Just let it be.

Speaker 2: 53:03

You notice, that he's going back in the bush. That's funny when you say that I. Is there anything that you think is going to be A part of the Sasquatch conference that you guys are doing in forks? Um well, sasquatch, the, the, you know, sasquatch days. Is there something that if someone who's going to go out there that, uh, are there going to be? Because I've not been, and when people show up from time to time do, do you guys go out to do other things other than just hang out and do the Sasquatch Days, the event itself? Is there anything on the itinerary that is going to be over the top this year?

Speaker 3: 53:52

Well, number one, we're going to have Shaneane corson from the olympic project here and he might bring a couple other team members. You know who knows, maybe david ellis team member, might show, maybe, uh, derrick randall's amy boo she's part of it. She's going to be speaking as well. So to me that's huge because in washington state, your greatest sasquatch investigating team out there is Olympic project. I have learned so much from their investigating, you know, clicker rocks, where to look where their sleeping areas are, and, uh, you know, it's just. They just educate me every time. I hear them speak at different conferences and I've probably seen them half a dozen times at conferences since 2014. And I learned something new every time. And, as far as you know, coming to Forks, you know, just seeing this place, sasquatchlegendcom you know this is bucket list if you're interested in Sasquatch I painted the murals outside. Seven days me and Peggy were under tarps because five days it was a monsoon, but we painted it in November. So so that when you come in, you got some visual eye candy pertaining to sasquatch and you'll see the big white bigfoot cast with sasquatchlegendcom above the door, second floor, and I made that my garage in kent last year and delivered it at the beginning of the conference last year and then coming into the store you're going to see things like they got.

Speaker 3: 55:18

It's like a museum. They got all the Sasquatch celebrities you hear about or see on TV. They got little write-ups. They have their t-shirts and art they've created, like Amy Boo has t-shirts and jewelry and books, and you know, it's just. You see, in SasquatchLegendcom you see how dedicated, devoted and, yeah, making money from the whole subject of Sasquatch Guys like Cliff Berrickman, mark Marcel, the Olympic Project and the list goes on that you're going to read about on the walls and then beneath is everything else and it's just amazing. I see it every day here. People come in and they're just flabbergasted. They come in and the first thing I do if there's young ladies I'm like Twilight Corner's over there to the right because we have a Twilight table, because of Forks being Twilight Town but then the people coming in, you know they ask me the question, the ones that know about Sasquatch and the shows they watch. They're just, it's like they just walked into. I'm back at it yeah.

Speaker 3: 56:28

Oh, look at all the Sasquatch stuff and you know they're asking questions. They're buying my book. I just published the book Sasquatch Island and the Other Tribe with a bunch of pictures and stories and you know we're big piles of them and they're going out the door steady because you know people get to come here and meet a real. You know I'm not ego or big fathead, but they meet a Sasquatch celebrity, a guy you see on TV, hear on podcasts, videocasts, you know throughout the internet what you know other than Cliff Berkman's store. Where are you going to get that?

Speaker 2: 57:00

You're not.

Speaker 3: 57:00

You're not Because the other guys that have stores aren't on TV like me and Cliff and are well-known like Cliff and I. So come into SasquatchLegendcom and that's why I'm here. Give the people that are interested in Sasquatch or they're investigators or enthusiasts give them someone to sit down at the picnic table in the store and sit down and chatter chatter like a Sasquatch with me about Sasquatches. That's bucket list man and I love hearing their stories and encounters.

Speaker 2: 57:28

Tom Seawood from Sasquatch Island, a huge, I would say, friend of the show, the third annual 2024 Forks Sasasquatch days. Now people are camping out here. Right, tom, this is a camp thing, right? Is that how that works?

Speaker 3: 57:44

oh, no, no, no, there's hotels and airbnbs motels, so you can go now.

Speaker 2: 57:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're coming, you got and then there's campsites sure so. However, however, they want to do it, and are people eating together at the conference, like at a lunch break, are they? Is there places for people to eat there, or are they breaking off to go out to restaurants in town and then coming back to the conference?

Speaker 3: 58:11

It sounds like we're feeding people because Ken and Lori, the owners of SasquatchLegendcom, gave us sandwiches two days ago to try out that they're going to be serving. They're really good. And then this morning they had breakfast biscuits with ham and cheese and egg for us to try out and they were really really good. I put hot sauce in mine. No, sasquatch hot sauce, lyle Blackburn's hot sauce Nice, famous Sasquatch hot sauce. Lyle Blackburn's hot sauce One of the famous Sasquatch guys and man, it's hot. But yeah, there's restaurants all over and Forks is open arms about the Sasquatch Festival because they want to see people going into all the restaurants and I highly recommend every restaurant. But my favorite burger is from the Shell gas station as you come into town, just a block away from us. Man, that woman, she used to cook in a logging camp. She can make clam strips and burgers, I tell you.

Speaker 2: 59:05

Wow. So now I know the third annual Fork Sasquatch Days 2024 is just around the corner. So if you want to be a part of it, go to. I would tell you to go to sasquatchlegendscom so you can get tickets which are available, or you can go to Tom's website as well at sasquatchislandcom, have all the pertinent information. We'll also have it in the podcast.

Speaker 2: 59:31

Tom, it's always a pleasure to have you come to hang out with us. It's always crazy how fast the time goes on these shows. But can you, can you let me tell you something? We have a huge announcements coming where we might actually be able to have you on the show and then in the next hour that's right, two hours ofomenon and take calls from individuals. We're excited for the launch. So if you're out here listening to one of our radio stations and you're ready for the second hour of US Phenomenon, you've got to get a hold of your local radio station. Send me a text, yeah, send me a text 775-990-5151. Say yes, I'm ready for a second hour. And what station you listen to us at.

Speaker 2: 1:00:18

We're really pushing for KVI, our flagship station, for the second hour. So we're working on that. So if you send an email to the KVI staff. Make sure you send an email letting them know that you love the show, that you're ready for the second hour, tom, when we do that, we're going to have you come back. We're going to do the show live. It's going to be at night-night Well, obviously the show's at night but we're going to do it where I'm actually in the studio. We'll do it live. You'll take live callers, and that's what I mean is we'll take callers, so we'll be in the studio so you can take callers and maybe we can do something fun, that if you're a us phenomenon, us phenom, we're going to hook you up with something, and I will. We'll get it all dialed in on the website, but always a pleasure, tom, to have you come on again. The third annual uh fork sasquatch days is just around the corner. Uh, may 24th through the 26th. Uh, rain or shine, right, tom, this thing is going to happen.

Speaker 3: 1:01:15

Yeah, and don't forget, we've got big canopies coming, so if it's raining not that it ever rains in Forrest Washington, but we'll have big canopies and inside stuff but get your tickets at SasquatchLegendcom and I've done all four lanyards. This year we got a unique white looks like a Bigfoot cast with sasquatch, the legendcom, the festival and all that uh, the lanyards I make, because I know a lot of you that go to conference are collecting your lanyards. So we've been kicking it up and we have the other years ones available here as well. But look forward to seeing you out at the spork sasquatch festival it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2: 1:01:54

I I love the idea. The lanyard thing is a great thing because everyone loves the collectible stuff, right, tom? I mean it's just, it's fantastic. Again, there'll be a wonderful conference. Plus, when you go to sasquatch legends, the storefront, all the paraphernalia and all the bigfoot stuff that you could ever want and purchase at your fingertips at one at one location. Plus, I'll probably be on site.

Speaker 3: 1:02:20

Go ahead. Don't forget, though, sasquatchlegendcom, where I'm sitting right now. When I come to work tomorrow morning, after I get the coffee going, put the flags out and everything, I got to sit here and do what we call dailies. Those are the emails that come in where people have purchased from the website and bring them to the post office that day and ship them out to you. We have a huge online store.

Speaker 2: 1:02:42

Yeah, so go to Sasquatch. If you're interested in anything paraphernalia, sasquatch, go to the website sasquatchlegendscom. Tom. Any parting words or advice for anyone who may be out here looking for the loose of Bigfoot?

Speaker 3: 1:02:58

Be careful out in your investigations and always heed their warnings and always respect Sasquatch. Sasquatch lives matter. Whoop, whoop.

Speaker 2: 1:03:07

Whoop, whoop. I will say this, Tom it's always a pleasure to have you come on to hang out with us. Always fun to have you come on. We'll have to do it again. As I conclude tonight's voyage into the extraordinary, I express my deepest gratitude to you, the listeners of us phenomenon. Your unwavering curiosity and passion for the unknown makes this journey through the cosmos in the corner of our reality possible. To my daughter, the beacon of inspiration and joy of my life, thank you for reminding me every day that the greatest mysteries aren't just out there in this vast universe, but in our loving hearts of our home. As your host, mario, I leave you with this thought Keep your gaze fixed on the stars and your mind open to the endless possibilities. May the questions you've pondered tonight spark conversations, inspire dreams and remind us all that we are a part of the grand mysterious phenomenon. Good night, stay curious and remember the adventure never ends, it only transforms. Until the next time, keep exploring, keep questioning and keep the spirit discovery alive. Good night.