U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Welcome to "U.S. Phenomenon" with Mario Magaña, a riveting podcast that dives deep into the unexplained and the extraordinary. Join Mario, the host as he explores the most intriguing paranormal events, alien encounters, and mysterious sightings across the United States. With his unique blend of real-life experience and passion for the unexplained, Mario brings you thrilling stories and expert insights in every episode. Whether it's alien abductions, ghostly apparitions, or cryptozoological creatures, Mario's engaging storytelling will captivate and keep you on the edge of your seat. Tune in to "U.S. Phenomenon" and embark on a journey into the unknown that will have you questioning everything you thought you knew.
U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Encounters: Robert's 50-Year Journey with the Greys Aliens
Seasoned hypnotherapist Krystie and Robert, a man claiming decades of alien abduction experiences, bring their fascinating story to US Phenomenon. Robert's journey began at age five, with encounters involving an alien named Fred, and spans 50 years of mysterious interactions. Through Krystie's application of the quantum healing hypnosis technique, they explore the profound implications of these experiences, challenging the skepticism often associated with stories of extraterrestrial contact and introducing listeners to the extraordinary concept of Robert being deemed a hybrid by the Greys.
Listeners are invited into the extraordinary world of Robert and his family's experiences with the alien species known as the Greys. Hypnotherapy reveals Robert's hybrid status, a result of manipulated DNA, and the Greys' ambitious goal of eradicating negative human traits like arrogance and violence. The chapter touches on the personal stories of Robert's daughter, affirming the widespread nature of these encounters, and provides a platform for listeners to reconsider their assumptions about extraterrestrial interactions and their potential impact on humanity's future.
Through telepathic communication and regression sessions, Krystie and Robert uncover revelations about Fred's home planet and Robert's past life experiences, painting a vivid picture of intergalactic communication. The episode concludes by emphasizing the importance of sharing alien abduction stories without fear of judgment, and advocates for mental health awareness, particularly for those hesitant to seek help. As Robert and Christy hint at a mysterious future meeting at the Eiffel Tower, listeners are encouraged to keep an open mind and remain vigilant for unexpected sightings and encounters.
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Speaker 2:From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the 1962 World's Fair. This is US Phenomenon. I am your host, mario Magana, where we explore the extraordinary and the unexplained. Today we delve into the intriguing world of alien abductions, a topic often relegated to the realms of science fiction. However, according to Christie, a seasoned hypnotherapist and author, these encounters are very much a reality. As her client Robert goes hypnotic state of Theia, they recount vivid interactions of the extraterrestrial beings. With her upcoming book, 31 Conversations with an Alien, christy brings us an astonishing tale from her sessions, including detailed accounts from an alien name, fred. It is my pleasure to welcome back to us phenomenon christy and robert guys. Welcome back to us, phenomenon. How are you guys? We're good, thank you thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty good, pretty good tonight.
Speaker 2:It's good to be back you know it's crazy because you know it's. You know the halloween season and I know we've had conversations. If people haven't heard, um, it was. It was brought to my attention. I haven't done a show lately and I was talking with someone. They're like you got to do. We got to cover the basics and definitely this is one of those topics that doesn't always get covered, but it also brings a lot of controversy to the table. Uh, christy, you know, when you start to talk to people, there's a lot of skeptics out here about uh abductions, a very science fiction ask in regards to what, what robert's gone through, and a lot of people would say no way, jose, is this even possible? How did the two of you guys first come to contact with each other? For those of our uh listener people who may be listening tonight, how did this all start?
Speaker 3:well, I'm gonna have the therapist and, and Robert was looking for hypnotherapy. So he called actually the headquarters for quantum healing hypnosis technique in Arkansas and we live in the southwest. But he called that number and it turned out that he got references from them and that's how we got together.
Speaker 4:He called me and said yes, yeah, I actually called Christy. She was the second on the list and the first guy didn't answer, and the rest is history.
Speaker 2:It's good that those who may be entrepreneurs or business owners pick up the phone, right? You always tell everyone hey, always pick up the phone, phone. You never know when something's gonna gonna be out there. Christy, when you started having this interaction with robert, were you skeptical at all? Were you like how did like? Were you like what in the?
Speaker 3:you know I wasn't, um, I was not skeptical, because I go into each session with every client open-minded and open-hearted, you know, without judgment. So I was excited at the prospect of actually meeting someone who had been abducted. The Dolores Cannon method I mentioned it before, the quantum healing hypnosis technique, it is well. I had read probably I don't know 10 books by Dolores Cannon and she was the hypnotherapist very, very well known, actually in other parts of the world as well, for writing these books about alien abduction, and not so much abduction but her clients will bring forward through telepathic messaging, spirits from the past and also aliens.
Speaker 3:But Robert was unique, robert, actually his situation is completely unique. So I had read these books and I thought, wow, this is happening to me, now I get to hear about alien abduction, and so I was excited and along the way it kind of turned my world upside down. So I kept thinking, okay, now what If this is true? What does that mean about life, what does that mean about every aspect of life If, in fact, robert was abducted over and over and over, sometimes three times a week for over 50 years? Mario?
Speaker 2:50 years seems to be a long time to be getting abducted. Now I know we're joking here, but you don't have a punch card where you got like VIP status or anything like that.
Speaker 2:No, you know, it's crazy to think that anyone because I've not, you know, I've never had, even in, I've never seen anything outside of my own little world, let alone look up in the sky. And I know, I know these encounters we'll get into a little bit, but from from, for myself and probably most a majority of the people who haven't had any of these types of experiences, I'm gonna say they're like 100 like this has got to be faker than fake, right? It's super science fiction, as most people would think. Now, when you're, when you talk about 50 years of adoptions, robert, do you remember your first encounter? Like how young you were.
Speaker 4:I was five years old. I was in my room with my brother. We slept in the same room and I remember waking up and our room didn't have a window. It had a sliding door. So I looked over to the sliding door because I heard something. And yeah, it was. We named him fred, but it was a gray. It was a very tall gray. I try to wake up my brother, but he wouldn't. He wouldn't wake up.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that I remember that through hypnosis and remember that hypnosis and, but through christy or or or through a different type, through Christy it was the first time I've ever seen a hypnosis therapist.
Speaker 2:See what's interesting, christy, that you were able to go all the way back to childhood to get all this information.
Speaker 2:And now I can see why you would have so many of these different conversations, with these encounters that you have, you know, leading up to what you guys are going to put together and to be able to attribute a name to this alien. Fred, I know that was what you came up with in your recollections. What's interesting to me, when you think and you go back, do you recall those prior to hypnotherapy or did you have an idea? Did you? Was it like you knew something was wrong, or I don't want to say wrong, but you knew something was up, versus like it wasn't in your subconscious memory, where you're like oh yeah, I remember going as a kid to the playground and playing on the. You know the purple swings, you know? Do you? Is that how you remember it? Or do you? Is it from your interactions with Christie that this memory has been brought to your subconscious mind? Right, because how does that work, christy, when you're able to pluck that out of?
Speaker 4:I know I'm asking like some really crazy questions no, no, not at all no, I read because I, without hypnosis I remember fred coming to my room and I remember staring at him and I remember him putting his arm out, which was probably like four feet long it seemed really long because I was a child and then that's all. I remember him talking to me in my mother's restroom because I got scared and went ahead in the restroom and then when I came out he put his arm out and that's all I remember Through hypnosis. Then I remember in greater detail what that first abduction was.
Speaker 3:So, mario, you have to understand that. Robert was wide awake when he was five years old and the gray came to his bedroom Unbelievable. He woke up and he saw, saw this, and he was so frightened and he tried to wake his older brother up. But when the extraterrestrials appear in your home and are taking you in a retrieval or abduction they like to call it retrieval they put everybody else asleep in the house immobilized.
Speaker 2:Oh really, I had no idea. Yeah, they immobilize them.
Speaker 4:I? I told my mother what had happened and she went, you know, and said, because I was a, I was a kid that was always getting in trouble. So, coming from a hispanic family, sure, they said that I, you know it was the devil that came and got me, trying to put the fear of god you know, that I should behave better, I mean it sounds pretty legit for being hispanic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, that's pretty pretty legit thing to for hispanic family to say oh, it was the devil because you're very, very very religious, very catholic, okay, exactly so for all these years I knew, I knew something was going on and that wasn't the devil, that I saw and did it similarly look like what we're looking at here.
Speaker 2:On the image here of what supposedly a gray looks like, I mean clearly these are interpretations of drawings of what one would look like.
Speaker 3:That's what he looks like.
Speaker 4:He has the big eyes, he's got the big eyes, he's got, he's got the big eyes, but, um, like then there's no, the mouth is just a slit, uh-huh, and there's no nose. There's a, there's two slits for for the nostrils. So it's very similar to this.
Speaker 2:It looks really similar it being five years old to think like this. Is your encounter to be abducted by an alien, uh, your family being like no, you saw the devil and I I can imagine how much holy water and how much church you probably went through to uh, wash, uh, you know, to rid of any spiritual demons or any spiritual things. Uh, uh, you know that the catholic church, may you know, find not uh, like an exorcist or something of that nature. Christy, when, when you're, when you're having these, when you're when you have your first session with robert and and you put him in this hypno, you put him in a state where you're able to have a conversation with with robert. Is it robert that you're having the conversation with when he's hypnotized?
Speaker 3:I thought it was going to be robert's higher self okay when he came to me with the idea that he he thought he'd been abducted and he or either had been abducted or he was crazy. So which was it?
Speaker 3:so that's what we were intending to find out during that first session. So I said well, what I'll do is I'll put you under and I'll ask your higher self these questions that you know, it's just standard procedure. And very soon, I would say, by the second question, I knew that it wasn't Robert answering me as Robert, it was not Robert's higher self answering me, because the formulation of the answer was different than it would have been for either one of those you know, either Robert or his higher self. And we figured out oh my gosh, you know, this is an extraterrestrial who is speaking through Robert. It's a. We call him he, though there's no gender. He, it's a we call him he, there's no gender. Um, because so robert was telling me he was speaking as if he was the extraterrestrial. So everything coming out of robert's mouth was actually being spoken by the extraterrestrial.
Speaker 3:So I found myself in conversation with an alien, in conversation with an alien. So then I write this first chapter. It's kind of disjointed because I hadn't done it before and I wasn't quite sure who I was talking to and it seemed like it would go back and forth. It would be the alien, and then was this still the alien, or was this Robert's higher self? It wasn't clear, but as we had more sessions it became very clear. I would ask we called him Fred. Fred, are you with us today?
Speaker 3:And Fred would say yes and we'd go from there and ask whatever questions that Robert had. But I wanted to tell you, Mario, you were asking about how Robert remembers anything. So because you were awake that first time, you remember everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then, as soon as the alien Fred put his arm out, then he took him and actually he must have just made you asleep at that moment and took him to the ship through the light, this beam of light that comes down from the ship.
Speaker 2:He took him there and went up, but Robert doesn't remember that except under hypnosis it's interesting to think that, um, maybe this is when we, when you, when you bring this up, my my thoughts are that the uh, the extra extraterrestrial is a trying to extraterrestrial, is a trying to make sure that maybe robert doesn't scream. Um, maybe they gave him, you know, some type of uh tranquilizer to some assedative I don't even know that would allow him to be in a state where he wasn't able to either maybe he was a sleeping state, I don't know so that they were able to bring him up to the craft. I guess that's what I, man.
Speaker 3:I got so many questions and so we don't really know, right, I mean, maybe maybe he just he shot something out of the end of his fingers to make robert go to sleep. We don't know right, sure, sure but but he was, he doesn't remember anything else, until we specifically chose for him to go under hypnosis and remember. And then he remembers in great detail what happened to him when he was taken onto the ship and laid on the bed, which was cold.
Speaker 2:It was was a table, a cold table, and that's when they began to do research on him when you talk about these abductions over a span of 50 years, are we talking that in in this span of 50 years? Um, that you are abducted that many times? You had an encounter fit in like. How many encounters do you think you've had in 50 years?
Speaker 3:he didn't know he was being taken until he was 57 years old and came for hypnosis sure and then he began to see we. He saw fred. I never saw fred. Sure, make himself visible to me.
Speaker 4:He doesn't come down from the ship, he's red's on the ship when all this is happening right I don't know where the ship is, because we can't look outside, because we're doing hypnosis right, my daughters have also been, because I never told my daughter what they look like, because I don't want to scare them right, of course and both of them had said that and I've never told them. It's a blue light that comes down and my youngest told me exactly what had happened. She said that she had woken up and she saw that blue light with the gray feet and it was moving within the house.
Speaker 3:So it's not just Robert who was taken. His mother was taken, His father was taken. They had to be taken because Robert is a hybrid His father's sperm, his mother's egg and the DNA from when Robert was a gray.
Speaker 2:Oh, so that okay.
Speaker 3:This is the real story, Mario. It is hard to believe it's like it's weirder than science fiction would probably make up. But he was a gray for 300 years three different times 800 years cycles 800 years cycles. Yes, anyway, there are so many details. That's why I was just so grateful that I thought to record every session, because of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean for you to get this type of information. What is in these conversations so is it's almost like they're using fred the alien, as he he's been his show, you guys has given name to him. Um, I wouldn't say chosen name, but given name. Uh, so fred the alien. So, if you know, for those tuning in, uh, we our guest tonight as robert and christy hanging out with us this evening and uh, robert has been abducted in a span of 50 years multiple times and he's had multiple encounters with greys of the alien species. Now, when we talk about this in a hybrid, for those who are listening, you'll have to go back and listen to the podcast, and for those who are skeptic or like, yeah, you stay tuned in because this is some really good stuff here. So Fred the gray alien is using Robert during hypblowing conversation that you've had with Fred the alien, that you've recorded that you would be able to share with our guest or just with me, that maybe I don't even remember.
Speaker 3:I think that everybody listening you yourself, mario, and anybody listening would like to know what the aliens said to us about their efforts at changing the DNA of humans slowly, very, very slowly over time, in order to get rid of three characteristics that all humans have Arrogance.
Speaker 4:Warmongering.
Speaker 3:Yeah, arrogance, and oh, now I have the headache and. I can't remember. And violent, the violent nature that we have. And the third thing, what the heck was it?
Speaker 4:I don't remember well, I'll remember.
Speaker 3:it'll come to me now that I made a big deal out of it. So I, when I was questioning fred all the time, I kept pushing to get an answer from him as to exactly what was the purpose of testing Robert all these years. What were they trying to figure out? What were they doing? Were all these tests something that were going to benefit them the Greys Sure or was it going to benefit them the greys Sure or was it going to benefit humanity? And basically, fred was very clear when he said humanity no.
Speaker 2:Saving the planet? Yes, so they don't really care about the human race? Then is what you're saying? You said they're going to save us from ourselves.
Speaker 2:I mean it sounds like. I mean there's a lot of destruction going on right now, a lot of wars, a lot of biblical wars that are going on. For those that are savvy into that, we typically stay away from that. We typically stay away from that. But we're working on a show to possibly explain these, to have a theologian come on the show to talk about what biblically is going on in some of these parts of the country. It would be interesting to see if they have said technology probably more advanced than what we have here.
Speaker 3:Oh, much, much, much beyond us, way, way beyond us.
Speaker 2:Do you ever feel like when you're having these conversations with Fred Christy? Do you ever get worried that Fred's coming for you next?
Speaker 3:One of my girlfriends said christy, I don't think he should be doing this. What if they decide to to come after you? You know what would you do? And I? I never feared that they have no use for me. There is a particular reason that they're working with with robert.
Speaker 2:He was a gray as you were saying earlier.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was this story. There's this story that is pivotal, um, about robert being a gray and being injured, damaged. His gray body was damaged beyond the point of um being able to continue to live. There was no reclaiming the part of his body that was shot away. As a gray, he was working in retrieving humans at that time with his partner, who is Fred, renamed Fred and so Robert, as the gray at that time had a choice he could either let his essence die and be over they don't believe in souls, by the way. That's pretty amazing or the scientists who do the research. We named them the scientists. They're a different look from the gray, they're the smarter ones, the smaller ones.
Speaker 3:Smarter and smaller. Yes, they gave him the choice. Look from the gray they're the smarter, the smaller ones smart, smarter and smaller.
Speaker 3:Yes, they gave him the choice, um, as the gray that he could, he could either just let himself, you know, be no more, or he could basically volunteer to come to earth as a human. And so it was decided and Fred must have said 50 times if he said it once Robert agreed to come to earth, he agreed to be experimented on whatever pain he's feeling he can take it. He agreed to this. I see him being in tremendous pain many times, especially when he's under and he's and he's back on the table. We're doing we're doing these interviews. We're doing an interview like in in-house here, and Robert goes into the the memory of being on the table, and it's hard for you to get through that because you relive it.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:And there's so much pain and distress, so this is not anything to mess with. I really feel like there are a lot of people who are being abducted and worked on, but Robert's situation is different because he's not what probably everybody else is. They're humans who are taken to the table and experimented on. He was a gray agreed to this, and so he has no control over the situation. He can't say I'm done now, I've had enough pain, so no more.
Speaker 2:No more research, no more abducting me it's a lifetime he has no, no control over that and speaking of lifetime, have you asked the question what happens to Robert when Robert's no longer here in his human state?
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, yeah, yes, you can tell them what Fred says.
Speaker 4:They call it energy that I'm going to go back with them and I'll be reincarnated once again.
Speaker 3:That's the latest news, frankly, is that he will come back in a very different form. He will be a human and he will have advanced knowledge and he will have advanced knowledge. Advanced knowledge, and it will be. He hasn't. Fred hasn't designated the year, but I feel like I'm telling a big secret now but he has designated that I will also be returning and the two of us will actually meet again in 2058.
Speaker 4:September 16th, 2058.
Speaker 3:He did give a specific date and a place.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It'll be in Paris.
Speaker 4:Southeast corner, northeast corner of the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 3:Yeah, We'll meet again at the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 4:It just sounds so weird, you know.
Speaker 3:It sounds bizarre, I don't know how exactly.
Speaker 2:No, I mean it's you know I'm hearing other noises in the room so I'm like what the hell is going on over there. But it's interesting that when you talk about these things the reincarnation piece you come back to this planet. Right, you're referring to coming back here to Earth. You will be reincarnated and coming back to this plane here with a physical plane of humans and whatnot not as a gray as what you refer To keep the plane straight here. Both of you will be reincarnated as humans and you'll be back on this planet. You will meet September what? 2053? Is that what you said? 2058. September 16th, 2058.
Speaker 4:Okay, wow. Northeast corner, the Eiffel Tower in Paris, france.
Speaker 2:So the planet's still going to be here, so we're not all going to die. Well, I mean, people are going to die, could die, natural, whatever however their, whenever their life expectancy may be, but in this case, this is great news. Maybe the so this is good, so that you know, maybe the planet will continue to evolve. Obviously, and we, you know, I, I always ask, but it's it's just an interesting conversation, right when you, when you start talking about reincarnation, you having these conversations under hypnotherapy. My biggest question there's so much going through my mind right now, robert, I mean, you're talking about your kids, who have had some of these experiences. You have had this lifetime experience of this. Are there support groups out there, christy, of other individuals who may have been abducted by aliens? Where Fred has been able to like, yeah's, you know, we some common ground with anybody else?
Speaker 3:there are support groups. Uh, I've looked it up on the internet and there are some support groups, but, like I said, it's a different situation for each individual and I don't think we're going to find anybody who was gray, you know, who was an, and then had this bad thing happen to them, where their body was blown away, blown apart, sure, and then they came here in order to be experimented on. Yeah, and the thing is that Robert spent all these years wondering if he was crazy because such weird things were happening to him. You know, I think we probably told you the first time we saw you that he's had multiple surgeries and that continues. So we asked about that.
Speaker 3:Why is it that the scientists are causing his body to have different maladies, you know, for bad things to happen to his human body, so that then they can measure the reaction to these different things. And and and you know it's a little vague because Fred is not in on the experimentation he he has two duties. He has the duty to protect the ship and whatever partner he's with, and to retrieve humans. Fred's one job now is to keep his eye on Robert. Robert, they know where Robert is all the time. They don't let him out of their sight. Robert is a commodity and if you believe that this is really getting out there.
Speaker 4:He's a property to them.
Speaker 3:It's like, if so, there are other alien species, the reptilians in particular, who are very interested in getting hold of Robert, and that wouldn't be good. So the greys protect him and they're not going, no matter what happens to him. He had a heart attack. The doctor didn't think he was going to survive. Nobody thought he was going to live through that heart attack I coded on the way to the hospital.
Speaker 4:Oh wow, it happened. My. It happened on a wednesday. Monday, I was at the gym doing cardio. I spent three days in icu. Wow that's remarkable.
Speaker 3:He comes back like that. It's superhuman. There are so many instances that we could mention of him having superhuman recoveries, and Fred is very clear they're not going to let him die until it's time, whatever that might mean. The scientists will decide when they're going to take him back and he will then, like he said, be reincarnated as a very different person, and there's been a whole bunch of downloads of amazing information that's going to be helpful to the human race that Robert will have when he comes back.
Speaker 2:Do you believe in your conversations with Fred the alien that I mean when you talk about them protecting him? I mean when you talk about them protecting him, but it almost sounds like that Fred has a job that Robert hasn't completed yet and it may not be on this life cycle, possibly in regards to meeting again in your guys' new conversations with with fred. But how is it that in today's life, what is, what is robert's purpose right now has? Has that been determined from fred?
Speaker 4:determine from.
Speaker 3:Fred. Well, the scientists are constantly, like we said, they're constantly researching his stress levels, his reactions to stress.
Speaker 4:Pain.
Speaker 3:And pain. I've used the word many times torture. I think they torture him when they put him on the table.
Speaker 4:He was very adamant that it wasn't torturing nor were they hurting me.
Speaker 3:Fred said I would never harm Robert, but this is, this is definitely physical torture that he's going through. This is not a romantic. Oh, they're taking me to the ship again, right? Not that at all, I don't know. Does that answer your question?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that didn't Fred also say that his three life cycles of 800 years each were coming to an end? But it's going to be extended because you're his project and as long as Robert is still coming to Earth and then being researched, fred will be his. What would you even call it? He'll be your. It's like a partnering. He'll be your protector.
Speaker 2:Kind of like a secret agent or something like that, like a bodyguard.
Speaker 4:Almost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, an invisible one the neighbor we may have mentioned this before. His neighbor sees the ship above Robert's house.
Speaker 4:The light.
Speaker 3:The light.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And makes reference to it and says don't tell anybody, Robert, They'll think you're crazy.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like in your guys' conversations that you guys had and gone through this stuff and I know you guys are putting a YouTube channel together and working on some other, the book and whatnot in all these conversations that you guys had and these some of it, I have to believe that has to feel so science fiction to you guys, mm-hmm. But in these encounters let me just remind everybody we're having a conversation about, roberty has been able to get some valuable information that will help, that has helped robert put the puzzle pieces back together and what has been going on over over his lifetime. In these conversations for people who are listening tonight, can you guys describe to to us what it's like? What's inside the ship? Do you have any of that recollection? Can you share any of that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, robert, saw that very, very clearly a couple of several times.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Go ahead yeah.
Speaker 3:It's really interesting.
Speaker 4:They put you on a table and there's a bar that goes over you. Now I can't move when I'm on that table. The only thing that I can move is my eyes. So I can see them, the five scientists usually I see two of them that were experimenting on me, but they put a bar over you and that bar emits a light and it can dissect what they're looking at. They can go through the skin, they can go a little further into the muscle see that and they can also go into the bone. So I've seen that, which is really advanced.
Speaker 3:Because tell them also there's a screen that you're looking at.
Speaker 4:I can see the screen mounted on the wall and there's two other scientists that are looking at that screen.
Speaker 3:And the results are there.
Speaker 4:That screen is integrated into the ship. It's not like we hang one of the flat screen TVs on our wall. Sure, this is integrated into the ship itself, wow, and they can access different parts on that screen, which will allow that bar to move over me without even touching it.
Speaker 2:I mean the description, as you heard me say.
Speaker 2:I mean it is like very visual.
Speaker 2:So for those who are listening to the, to the podcast or what, and not really watching the show but listening to the show, you're getting some great information here from, uh, from two individuals who have gone through hours of hypnotherapy to to rant, to get some very knowledgeable information that has been sitting in robert's, you know, somewhere in robert's head in a downloaded folder somewhere, and and the fact that, christy, you were able to get some of this information.
Speaker 2:But what's even more interesting to me and more intriguing is the conversation that you're able to have with Fred. That, to me, has to be the most nerve-wracking experience to have, because you're not talking to Robert, you're talking to Fred. That has to be the first time that happened. That interaction, christy, that had to be on levels that you were like, wow, this is real, this is. I mean, you're the professional here, I know where I would be, but you have to share your first impressions and thoughts of that interaction with Fred, first impressions and thoughts of that interaction with Fred, because I've been doing hypnosis for people for 20 years and I had read these books by Dolores Cannon.
Speaker 3:I guess I could say I was prepared for whatever came, and so I know it probably sounds bizarre, but I was calm, I just was fascinated and I was curious and I wasn't afraid for a minute. To me there's just nothing to be afraid of. I mean, if Fred had appeared as a gray in my living room here where we held the sessions, I probably would have freaked out, and I actually did ask Fred two times if it was possible for him to manifest here in the house so that I could see him. Yeah, I don't know why I did that. I guess I just, you know, the thought occurred to me that I will probably never see Fred, and Robert has seen Fred many times. So I thought, well, maybe he could all of a sudden just appear and then disappear you know he doesn't have to stay.
Speaker 3:Right. But Fred said very clearly no, I can't leave the ship.
Speaker 3:And then we found out something really remarkable, and that is that Fred, of course, is speaking, communicating telepathically with Robert from the ship where he lives, the spaceship where he lives and the scientists are not aware that he's having this communication with Robert and then, through Robert, with me. The scientists don't know it. So if he decided to leave the ship which he never does unless the scientists tell him to because they're in charge if he left they would know something was up and and then probably would come to a halt. I mean, we didn't really get that far, but you can extrapolate, yeah.
Speaker 4:So he said no, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be there so you're kind of wondering how can he, how does he communicate through me? So Christy asked them one time. They said because we were partners for 1600 years. I guess, so at least yeah yeah, we speak telepathically and that's the way they speak to each other telepathically, so we have this connection already okay, so that's how this is all and Fred does not do this with any other being.
Speaker 3:This is that's why I know this is a very specific.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you guys are partners, right, you guys were talking about how you were. You know you work together and things of that nature, so you uh, clearly a close bond. Um, now, when you were talking about leaving the ship and and then a couple things came to my mind. One are there consequences for him having these conversations outside of what maybe the scientist aliens would Now? Would he be punished for having these conversations? I guess that's just a question.
Speaker 3:I mean, I guess that's just a question. It was inferred that Fred knew that the scientists were not going to find out. Okay, and that's as far as we got. I didn't really ask him if he'd be punished and banished or you know murdered or whatever.
Speaker 2:What about my thoughts of thinking about this? Where? Where do they come from? I mean? I mean, if this is earth where, where do do have? Has that conversation ever come up where you're like where are you guys from?
Speaker 4:yes, he, what was it mentioned? It's 400 light years away. We go through. There's a portal we go through and it's in between Orion's Belt. It's from the center star and the left and you travel through that. But we have an outpost. We have a. That's what I mean. They have an outpost planet, but our main planet is even further, but we go back to the outpost. We would go back to the outpost planet.
Speaker 3:So the impression was that the home planet, which is never named. They don't give each other names and there's no name for the planet. Sure, so if we were looking for that, it was not forthcoming because it doesn't, they don't have a need for names. But he was specific about the fact that the home planet is. It has to you get there by going through this portal, as Robert said. I thought it was the middle star.
Speaker 4:Yeah, from the middle star to the left, you go in between that, in between there okay, yeah, I don't remember everything.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm so glad we've recorded everything and it'll be in the book. And then they have the outpost planet, because the home planet is too far away it's not practical to go back there. But they do take time on occasion to go to the outpost and Robert has been there. I took him as a past life regression to when he was a gray.
Speaker 2:He could see himself on the ship he described um being at this outpost when you guys were talking earlier, I was thinking about this uh, robert, your, your daughters, who have had these abductions, now are they? Are they going on fred's ship? Are they going somewhere else? Is someone else abducting someone else? Is abducting them Interesting?
Speaker 3:Well, but there are two ships, they're sister ships.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And Fred and Robert operated out of the one ship. And now Fred only you know, he has a new partner, so he and his partner operate out of the one ship and the other ship has the retrievers who take his daughters. So we asked fred what was happening to the daughters, as they're being taken, these two women, beautiful women they're, they're in their 20s, um, and they're being taken, we don't know how regularly. And fred said I don't know what's happening to them because I don't take them, they're taken to the other ship and do your daughters know now that you've been abducted?
Speaker 2:do they know, or have you had those? Okay?
Speaker 4:yeah, they, they do, they don't, they don't talk about it, they get scared. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I have a daughter too.
Speaker 2:I don't, I would it they get scared. Yeah Well, yeah, I mean I have a daughter too. I mean I know I wouldn't tell her. She'd probably also think I'm crazy too.
Speaker 3:But uh, but it's interesting. They don't think you're crazy and they love their dad.
Speaker 2:I didn't say they didn't love his dad, but their dad, no, no but.
Speaker 3:I'm saying they have a lot of respect for you is because I came out and said what was happening.
Speaker 4:Sure, it's because they said that they don't tell nobody because they're going to think that they're off the, they're off the rocker, they're sure right, I know, I know that in tongue-in-cheek we we giggle here, but really, truly a remarkable story for you to come forward.
Speaker 2:Share these stories, because one it is over the top sensational it is of what no one knows of. We don't know what you've gone through, robert. Right, we haven't had these experiment experiences, robert. This is your truth, this is your story that you and christy have been able to put together to under hypnotherapy to get the this valuable information, but to share it on such a large platform, either in YouTube videos or on the radio show, here and podcast and things of you know, different TV shows that you guys may do in the future and in the past it's. It's so unbelievably out there for us because none of us have ever had these. Most of us have not had these opportunities to be adopted. Right, we haven't had that. So when people are sitting here listening this story, they're like, wow, these guys are wild. But you know what? There is somebody else out there who may have had the same or may have had an encounter, and that's to me the most important thing is to give the platform to allow you guys to come on the show to share these stories.
Speaker 3:We appreciate it.
Speaker 2:And what's interesting to me and we still have some time here, but what's interesting to me about this whole, all of this? It's very personal, it's very intimate. I mean, there's so many, so much rich, valuable stuff that you guys are sharing and just taking these little pieces of nuggets and being like man. You've gone through a lifetime of hell and back, you know, between your heart attack, between, uh, your surgeries, you being abducted, being in pain all the time. You would think your homie, fred, would hook you up with some type of, some type of relief. So that.
Speaker 3:So there's none of that. No, no, fred says, he can take it, he can take it.
Speaker 4:You know you had mentioned something and right now it's about. You know, because people think that you're crazy and they don't believe in it the abduction. So there's a lot of people that don't even believe in UAPs. You know that unidentified aerial phenomenon. And Fred had said something within these lines of they're not going to believe him, they're going to think he's crazy. And then Fred said they don't believe in extraterrestrials or UFOs and stuff like that. So then he said but yet a large portion of the world believes in a man that wears a red suit, that comes once a year and at night and is powered by reindeers. Hey, kids, if you're listening, be sure I don't want to ruin everybody's thing here.
Speaker 2:robert, come on, man you. What if there's some little kid out here watching or listening and you just may have destroyed their whole? They'll be like, oh my gosh, we should do spoiler alert Well worse than that, mario, he said.
Speaker 3:At the same time he was talking about Santa Claus. He said well, and why do humans believe in a being, a God, who they have never seen, who has all these powers, a powerful God? And they don't believe in me, they don't believe in extraterrestrials, but they believe in this other other being spiritual and honestly, it was funny. It was funny when he was talking about the man in the red suit. That was the one time during all the whole year that he made me laugh that it's interesting.
Speaker 2:You say that because you know you talk about the suit. Then you talk about, clearly, you. You talk about a, a guy who may have been on this planet, for you know who came to, you know who. There's a book out. You know it's what some people say it's the best, the number one selling book of all time. I I I don't know that to be true, but obviously there are so many stories of people saying that maybe aliens were God. There have been those types of stories that you do hear out there and that the scripture is actually a manual to keep all of us from going from us being heathens and destroying the planet.
Speaker 3:Um, destructive, arrogant, destructive and violent. Those were the three things that the scientists are trying to shift out of the human DNA so that we don't destroy the planet. That is it in a nutshell. That is why Robert was sent back and why they're researching.
Speaker 2:You know, I was trying to look while we're having a conversation here about abductions, you're not finding at least I'm not finding right now like how many, like how many reports are you know, I'm not finding any of that information. It's interesting that I'm not finding alien abduction reports, because they must be not. No one's reporting these things.
Speaker 3:Well, they don't know it's happening. Robert couldn't report it until he went under hypnosis. He was brave enough and what?
Speaker 4:maybe desperate enough, if you want to say that you know there's a few like Travis Walton from Arizona. He had that movie Fire in the Sky. Yeah, was it, barney?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Barney and Betty.
Speaker 4:And Betty.
Speaker 3:Whitney Streber. I'm reading, I'm listening to his audio book Communion about his experiences and it's fascinating.
Speaker 2:Wait, is Whitley Stre streber? That's right is whitley yeah, is he still alive?
Speaker 3:I don't know if he is, but he made an audiobook and he's the narrator yeah and it's fascinating because he went through the same process. He said that when he came out and began to reveal all this to the public, his wife was alienated from her friends and his son was bullied at school and he just kept going with it. Because it's his truth, it really happened to him.
Speaker 3:And that's how I feel. I mean, I've made my living as a musician my whole life and a teacher, a music teacher and and all of a sudden I'm talking about aliens really existing and so, but, frankly, maybe it's because of my age. I mean, I'm in my 70s and what have I got to prove and what have I got to lose? This, this is the reality of what happened when I put Robert Nanez under hypnosis. This, this actually happened here in my living room. Several of my friends have come to just watch, and his brother, his brother, his nephew, his cousin, and then my friends and they watch. They see that Robert goes under like that. He's so deep he doesn't move a muscle. It is absolutely fascinating. They can't not believe that this is happening. They hear his voice change. They see his voice change. They see his affect change. They see him being immobile on the sofa. This is a man who doesn't sit still for long.
Speaker 4:As you can notice, I'm constantly moving. Sure, I'm on the sofa. The only things that move are my lips and my chest going up and down from breathing, but I never move my arms, my head, nothing, nothing moves.
Speaker 3:Okay, you asked what was one of the most interesting, so I'll tell you this part about him. It makes me so curious that I can't see Fred, and so one of the times that I asked him if he would somehow reveal himself Robert, who was always still as we said all of a sudden his head swiveled and his eyes were closed, but his mouth opened wide and he swiveled and his mouth was open and it was this like a violent move and he was looking straight at me and I wanted to get out of my chair. I started to leap out of my chair because it was so violent, and so not Robert. And it strikes me, it struck me at the time he had inhabited Robert right then, and made him, made his head swivel.
Speaker 3:I mean it was so fast it's almost like it's. It's impossible physically to move that fast. Boom, and he was with his mouth wide open and he stayed that way for a while. Um, that was all recorded too and it's in the book yeah, when's the book gonna be out? Um. You know, I finally found um, thanks to a friend who researched it for me. I found this text voice-to-text program.
Speaker 4:Sure.
Speaker 3:And so I've got ten of them transcribed, ten conversations, and now it's going quickly. I was trying to do it, you know, without that and that was taking forever and I kind of felt frustrated about it so now, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Hopefully and in 2025 we'll actually get it published. I wouldn't mind if people want to hear it, you know, want to read it. But they're going to hear a lot on our YouTube channel. But as far as the book being published, you know, I'm going to say by, let's say, june of 2025, we should have it out. But this is blow by blow. This is all the things that were said during the sessions. This is all the things that were said during the sessions and there's a lot of information in there, like conversations between Robert and me after the session was over, when he was recovering, especially when he went very, very deep and it was hard for him to even sit up.
Speaker 3:It would take a while for him to come back, because he goes very deep.
Speaker 4:You're drained, your energy is drained.
Speaker 2:How long are these sessions typically that you guys run?
Speaker 3:An hour An hour. Some of them went longer an hour and 20 minutes. Some of them went longer an hour and 20 minutes. But hypnotherapists are advised not to leave their clients under in an altered state called theta by the way, it's called theta More than about an hour Because it changes a person. I suppose it could be dangerous if you stayed in that altered state too long, and there are so many other things that have occurred you know we could talk all night.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, I mean, we could talk all night. You know, the thing that is so intriguing to me with Robert, and it's how, how you have gone through this whole your whole life to go through these but to live your normal life right as who you are, and to not be able to share this information with anybody, to know you're crazy, yeah, for sure. And the biggest thing for you, when you now are going through these abductions, are you like, when was the last one? Have you guys? When was his last abduction? Was it recent of the last couple years?
Speaker 3:you know, two, three years ago yeah, just a couple weeks ago they're. They're still taking robert on a regular basis, but there have been some I want to call them hiatus hiatuses, I guess it's a plural where first of all it wasn't very pleasant but Fred left on the ship. The ship had to go back to the outpost and Fred left for I think it was three months. He told Robert he was going to be gone. He told me that he would be gone for three months but that some other being would be watching Robert. Some other being would be watching Robert and that being was not as friendly. That being was rough with Robert whenever they came to retrieve him and we would say when's Fred coming back? Because this is not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you learn anything about why Fred was away for three months or that time period? Did you learn anything of why that was going on?
Speaker 4:It was a sister ship and I guess they were conducting an experiment. They were taking over and doing the experiments.
Speaker 3:So that the ship that Fred was on wasn't it just going back? Because occasionally they have to go back and they have to refresh the ship, Whatever it is they do. It's not really spelled out by Fred, but that's necessary. And then also do you want to tell them about the other beings that were giving you information?
Speaker 4:There's a second group that we found out, that take, and they kind of they're different. Now, these ones are way more advanced than the grays and these ones are educating me.
Speaker 2:So they're telling you what's going on in these experiments. No, they're giving you information.
Speaker 3:They're giving him highly technical information. For him, it goes into his DNA. It's not like it goes into his memory banks, but it goes into the DNA and these are the. This is the knowledge that he's going to bring back with him some of it when he returns and is in a different human form. So that has happened and you call them the tree people?
Speaker 4:yes, because they.
Speaker 2:They basically look like a walking stick or a tree mario, I'm looking at you and I'm thinking well, I'm thinking like a walking, I'm thinking tree people and the first thing I think of is sasquatch would be the first thing I thought of and I was looking down at my guy down here in the little picture down here you can see the little sasquatchy guy yeah but uh, I wasn't expecting to hear it's uh sticks.
Speaker 2:I was thinking more of that guy over here that when I think a of tree person, but that's me thinking of my Bigfoot, being indigenous to the planet where some people think that they cloak and they're actually aliens. But I digress so interesting that you would say that tree people, what does that stick?
Speaker 3:That's what you think of. Yeah, right, that's what came because the way they look.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, you know these from what I've learned. They gave the grays knowledge, advanced knowledge, so these ones are far older than the grays.
Speaker 2:Have you drawn any of these out? Will these be in the book too?
Speaker 3:the pictures, I haven't because they're not my experience and I'm not having conversations with the green people just with Fred, but you know, we'll probably report that as well at some point along the way. Who knows?
Speaker 2:It's just so interesting.
Speaker 4:Technology. Everything is just way more advanced than what the Grays have.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously they want to get rid of the violence through the human DNA. Are they going to be able to do that, I mean, but we're talking. This is going to take generations, right?
Speaker 3:This is going to. I wanted to tell you this. This is really really interesting. Fred has said that in the future, and not that far from now, we we will realize that there has been this interference with DNA because humans are going to look very different. Do you remember a timeline for that?
Speaker 4:he said that my grandkids will look a little different he said yeah, his, his grandchildren, if his daughters?
Speaker 3:well, whether or not they have children, they yeah, although I mean that's not far away, right, because your daughters are in their 20s right? Yes, I mean yeah, so I mean I'm not two generations oh, two generations, okay, slightly different, but I would say he probably gave the impression it's gonna be noticeably, noticeably different and when you say noticeably different, are you referring to what we look like now, that we won't look like this? Right, but he didn't give any details and wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's a while. I shouldn't say crazy, you should say wild, because we all look at each other, we all. It's normal, right? This is what't say crazy. You should say wild, because we all look at each other, we all, it's normal, right. This is what. This is what it looks like, and there's two generations from now we could look vastly different. I mean, I don't know what we all look like.
Speaker 3:I mean well, mario, when you think about it, though, there's been a lot of new newness in terms of brain capacity. Different people learn so differently. Now there's autism, which we didn't hear about back in the 50s, when, you know, 1950s, that didn't even really exist, and so I believe that this has been an ongoing process, and it's not just the greys. Fred tells us that other alien species are doing experiments and shifting things, and you know somebody's stopping the bombs from detonating and us killing. You know ruining our planet. Somebody's up there watching. You know the bombs from detonating and, uh, that's killing. You know ruining our planet, planet. Somebody's up there watching.
Speaker 2:You know and this is the the the government admits- I mean there's so many more more reports of uaps, uh, that are being reported and during the pandemic that I mean it just was through the roof.
Speaker 2:Either people are doing too much weed or they're really spending more time looking up at the sky and actually seeing and having more of these scenes, these sightings of you know extra, you know terrestrial phenomenons, maybe having an encounter, but really seeing a uap or, as what we all used to know it, as ufo, now called uaps, um, these extra, these encounters that people are having, and even with the government, you know tracking and showing these different footages from you know, from out, from what. Whatever has been posted and has been shared it, it don't it leads me to believe that they're making an appearance or making themselves more visible to humans, to say you're not the only one here. Now, if you want to believe it or not, that is what it is I mean for those who have had an encounter, who have seen a UAP, you want to call us, text me 775-990-5151. We can hook you up with Christy. We can get you dialed in in that. We'd love to hear from you. Share your story that would be great.
Speaker 3:That would be good, and also anybody who who believes that they've been abducted and and wants to go under hypnosis. They should just contact me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they can email you right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, uh, emails posted. We'll have it posted in the podcast as well. Um, you can uh find the information on the podcast as well. Um, you can find the information on the podcast. If you don't listen to the podcast, please go subscribe, like, download and give us a follow, please. Uh, on your favorite podcasting platform, iheart spotify. It's on apple, it's in google play, whatever. I mean. You just search us phenomenon with mario magana, you'll find. Find it.
Speaker 2:Before we get close to wrapping things up here, do you feel that you guys have made these conversations more pop culture now, to make it not a stigma of this grandiose super science fiction? Do you feel like you guys are making yeah, you guys are like cave waivers? I mean, you guys are like creating a path for individuals to share their story because, as I'm sitting here and having this conversation with you of course I'm doing you can't even find how many people have been abducted, if that's even a thing. Right, you see reports on UAPs, but you don't see abductions. You don't see an annual report of oh hey, 25 people were abducted by aliens aliens, you know where you're like.
Speaker 2:Okay, there was 25 reports of ufos or uap sightings within uh, anywhere from seattle, washington to blah blah blah. At this point in time they looked up it was at blah blah, blah blah. So these report, these reports are out there. Someone has to be the information caretaker of abductions. Someone has to be out. I I just, I don't know that I have. I I should have done my research and said, hey, oh yeah, if you have, if you've been abducted, call christy clearly, because you need to talk to her. But we want to hear from you too.
Speaker 3:We want you to share your story absolutely, and and, mario, you know, there it's so fascinating how many books have been written by people who have had these really bizarre experiences. You know, beyond whitley, streber and right um, because I bought a few, you know, go on Amazon and find some books and the people are just normal people but they're talking about their experiences but it doesn't get out to the general public. The media doesn't pick it up because there's too many other things going on.
Speaker 4:I think it's so taboo. We're barely believing in the UAPs, let alone abductions. Abductions were barely believing in the UAPs, let alone abductions.
Speaker 3:Abductions. But I can tell you that, since moving to the town that we both live in, I have met a woman who randomly came to me and she's in her 80s, but she's really with it, know she's, her mind is clear and she has written her story. Um, when she was 14, she, without ever having sex with anybody, she became pregnant and she? Um didn't know what was happening to her, but her mother realized my daughter's not having her period, so she took her to a doctor. She was pregnant for three months and at the end of that three months she was no longer pregnant. She woke up one morning there was blood and she was there. She was in pain and she was no longer pregnant. And this is just one woman. She a perfectly normal person from some western state which grew up in a very modest household. No reason to be making something up like that.
Speaker 2:Sure, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3:And there's more to her story of her actually meeting the being that was created by the extraterrestrials, and so it's hard to believe, but I believe. I just believe it because I don't know why anybody would go to the trouble to, you know, seek somebody else out and tell them the story and write it out, if it hadn't happened.
Speaker 2:And and I think that this has happened to many, many women- as you're telling the story and I'm looking for abductions and clearly there's the most famous ones, as you guys were talking about earlier. The reports are very far and very few. So it is key, and if you're a believer or non-believer, that's, that's up to you to make those decisions. But what, what we really want to do, is make sure that, if you've had some type of encounter, we want to give you a platform to be able to share these, these encounters, with others who can possibly you know, like Chrissy, can help you go through a path where you are able to understand where you've been, how this is going through, and be able to have a session. And I'm not selling anything here, but if you've been abducted and you want to talk about it, come to us, let us know. We're here to not judge anybody.
Speaker 3:It's a safe place, Mario.
Speaker 2:It is a very safe place. Send me a text 775-990-5151. You want to get a hold of Christy? You can send her an email and your email is Christy. That's K-R-Y-S-T-E-A-N-D-R-E-W-S at gmailcom. We'll have it in the podcast. Please go subscribe to the podcast. Rate us, tell us we're a fantastic show. Give us 100%, please, please, please. As we get ready to wrap things up here again, it's always a pleasure to have you guys come on the show to share these stories and make a path for others who may be afraid to share.
Speaker 3:And that was part of Robert's intention A. He wanted to know if he was crazy or if he'd really been abducted. And if he was abducted, he wanted to get word out to other people who are going through the same questioning. It's torturous.
Speaker 4:And you're not crazy? No, that was the thing that plagued me for over 50 years is am I going crazy?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, robert, most people always think that, right, I mean, I still think that to this day and I'm like it is so interesting. Well, I mean, robert, most people always think that, right, I mean, I still think that to this day and I'm like it is so interesting. But to be able to, what I think even for most people don't do, is seek help to get answers to mental health illnesses, things of that nature, which this is what we're saying is, most men don't usually typically get help. They just let it fester and they just kind of macho their way through.
Speaker 2:But but for you to seek out what you've been going through to, to figure out where you're at in your path, robert, it's, it's, it's tremendous that you're able to share these stories with us, with the world, and that you guys have painstakingly gone through what has to be levels of exhaustion, because not only you're going under hypnotherapist right, you're being hypnotized but then do like your body's drained from what your experience, your experiences, um, it takes a lot. So we I appreciate you guys taking the time this evening. It's always a pleasure to have you guys come on. Christy, you got. We can't wait to see the book. We can't wait to have you. Um, when the book comes out, we'll definitely have to have you guys come back on. If something comes up between now and then, please let me know. And vice versa. If we decide to do something where we need you guys to come on, we'd love to have you guys come on. Great, thank you.
Speaker 3:Come back anytime. It's great to be with you, Mario.
Speaker 2:As we wrap things up and get close to. As we wrap things up and get close to wrap. As we wrap things up here in the pacific northwest.
Speaker 4:Um, any last parting words, uh, before we leave uh, if you think something happened, you know, seek out, seek out someone and you'll, you'll find out.
Speaker 3:You're not crazy and, and you don't have to worry, when you go under hypnosis, um with me, I always give the prompt that you won't feel any pain and you can always step aside if you're actually experiencing, you know, some sort of probing or something like that. You can step aside and not feel pain, so you can remain safe and sound and have the knowledge that you seek.
Speaker 2:so you know you're not crazy our guest, uh, robert and christy, a conversation with an alien by the name of fred. Um. Um, I know we didn't talk about fred himself and how we got that show. You guys chose that name. But, uh, we'll leave that for the book because we know we'll know that we'll be in there again. It's always a pleasure to have you guys come on as we wrap things up from the Pacific Northwest. I'd like to thank our guest, christy and Robert, for hanging out with us to have a conversation and to share Robert's truth this evening. If you feel like you've been abducted by aliens and you need help, uh, send us a text. I send us a fax. Uh, text us 775-990-5151. You can fax us, but uh, it'll have to be a pdf and then you better send it to my email. Um, from my entire team, mark christopher, sophia magana and myself, mario mag, be sure to look up at the sky, because you never know what you might see. Good night.
