U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Welcome to "U.S. Phenomenon" with Mario Magaña, a riveting podcast that dives deep into the unexplained and the extraordinary. Join Mario, the host as he explores the most intriguing paranormal events, alien encounters, and mysterious sightings across the United States. With his unique blend of real-life experience and passion for the unexplained, Mario brings you thrilling stories and expert insights in every episode. Whether it's alien abductions, ghostly apparitions, or cryptozoological creatures, Mario's engaging storytelling will captivate and keep you on the edge of your seat. Tune in to "U.S. Phenomenon" and embark on a journey into the unknown that will have you questioning everything you thought you knew.
U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Prediction Show 2025 with Mark Jacobson
Recent episodes of US Phenomenon honor the legacy of Art Bell while exploring predictions for 2025. The discussions center around the impacts of technology, conspiracy phenomena, and the societal implications of climate change and corporate control.
• Paying homage to Art Bell’s legacy in paranormal radio
• Analyzing the rise of drone sightings and historical parallels
• Reflecting on technological advancements and societal anxieties
• Engaging listener predictions for the next year
• Exploring climate change and corporate influence on policy
• Fostering optimism through collective narratives and inquiry
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Speaker 2:From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the 1962 World's Fair, the Space Needle. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon. Whatever the case may be, I am your host, mario Magana. This is US Phenomenon. Welcome Tonight.
Speaker 2:Today, whatever the case may be for you, we pay homage to the godfather of paranormal radio, art Bell, a pioneer that captivated a show that he called the Prediction Show. For years, art enthralled listeners with taking their calls around the globe and letting them share their unique forecast for the upcoming year into the future. We begin a very our own version of the legendary show, featuring the insights of forecasts from mark jacobson and myself. Tonight we aim to continue the tradition of exploring the unknown, uncovering what lies ahead. So get ready for an evening filled with intriguing prediction mysteries, insight and, of course, a touch of the extraordinary. Let's dive into the future and see what awaits us.
Speaker 2:We are honored to welcome back Mark Jacobson, an acclaimed author, a pale horse writer. The Rise of Conspiracy, the Fall of Trust in America, american Gangster. Mark's insightful writing delves into the intricate world of conspiracy theories and the fascinating life of William Cooper. His work provides compelling look of social and political context of America's paranoia. Mark, it's always a pleasure to have you come to hang out with us on the show? Uh, welcome back to us. Phenomenon, it is mark jacobson. Welcome back to the show, my friend well, I'm happy to be here, mario you know, I can't, I can't believe we've gone around the globe.
Speaker 2:Another now, we've gone around the globe. Is it flat? What are we? We're not flat earthers.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. I mean, you know, I like Kyrie Irving as a basketball player, but I wouldn't hire a guy who believed the world was flat to be my point guard. I mean, I just don't. You know, there's a lot of evidence that the world is round. But you know, you never know.
Speaker 2:You never know, I mean until we go up to.
Speaker 3:They might have been photoshopping those pictures before they even invented photoshopping. I mean, come on.
Speaker 2:You never know. Isn't it interesting right now, with the headlines that have been going by? You know, christmas has already hit us I got to ask you, you, you know this huge thing that's been going on with the drones and whatnot. And, uh, president-elect, uh trump, uh doing press conferences and whatnot. Isn't it interesting to me that you're president-elect now? Are we talking that? Are we talking maybe these drones? Is the news cycle that slow? Because I've looked everywhere to see. I mean, I've definitely seen some very interesting headlines and like the doom and gloom, but it's got to be slow, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean like, for instance well, you know there is some continuity in these drone sightings. The fact that most of them were seen in northern new jersey first, because if you want to go back to 1938 and the famous broadcast by orson welles, war of the worlds, which a lot of people count as a key moment of um, you know paranoia in the media, because a lot of people it was More of the Worlds, which was most people know, or should know, that it was originally a book by HG Wells about an invasion of Mar. The Martians were going to come there. Now Wells was like he was 22 years old at the time, three years before he directed Citizen Kane. He did this show in the Mercury Theater, you know, basically making a play out of this Welles book.
Speaker 3:Orson Welles and HG Welles Just a coincidence, they're both named the same name. But but, um, you know, and that was that was also took place in northern new jersey and and actually because people weren't used to hearing that kind of stuff on the radio. So it's just, a lot of people just assumed that it was real because, like, they didn't know that you might hear something that was fiction on the radio. So they went out and actually several water towers were shot at by people, by local people and I think it was. They called it grovers falls, new jersey.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure exactly what the town was, but they shot down all the water towers because they resembled the machines that the martians were supposedly attacking the townships of Northern New Jersey. So there has a good precedent for this kind of phenomenology taking place in Northern New Jersey, along with the mafia and the Sopranos and all that other stuff. So, like you know, I don't know why there was suddenly an outbreak of drone sightings in a place where there had been drones all along. There's no real proof to show that there was more then than before. But yeah, I think slow news cycle might be. You might have your finger on there, right?
Speaker 2:And it's interesting because when you talk about the War of the Worlds that broadcast I mean, there was no television back then, so that was your entertainment, you were listening, you were sitting around the radio to listen to these types of shows that were broadcast on the radio. For those who listen to podcast and maybe listening to this show, uh via via you know the podcast or maybe you're listening to us on one of our affiliate radio stations I gotta take two seconds to remind everyone that one of our affiliates went dark. Uh, one of our affiliates, uh, kgrg, uh, formerly known as today's Rock, went dark. Now, this radio station had been on for quite some time and I just recently found out. So if you're someone who is in the need of giving, please send me a text 775-990-5151. I will put you in the powers to be able to make a donation to be able to bring this radio station back.
Speaker 3:It is very sad it went dark, maybe they're being jammed.
Speaker 2:Not jammed. No, this was not. That is not the case. It's a little more political, my understanding, and it's very unfortunate to see a college radio station that has had College radio station.
Speaker 2:uh, that has had college radio station, right, a college radio station that has a very huge history in the pacific northwest. I mean, we're talking like bands like mud honey, uh, nirvana, uh, these are, you know, mxpx. These are bands that were grew up, that grew up in the pacific northwest, that would go to kgrg and they would do benefit shows to raise money for the college radio station, so it's in the sub pop days back in those, yes, in those very.
Speaker 2:You know, and I mean it's so crazy to think that this radio station is still streaming right now and they still have their am signal, but it's. It's not what it used to be that you know it's changed and you know people think that radio is dead. It's not, the medium is not dead, it's how you consume it and how we are able to continue to bring these types of things and for a younger generation coming up. I think a station like that can evolve and change, continue to bring broadcasters up to speed to become podcasters or video bloggers or content creators and give them the correct tools to be able to do such a thing. So that's my piece and I just wanted to make sure I put that out there.
Speaker 2:So, if you're someone out, there who may have a couple extra bucks and you want to give a couple shekels to the people to be over there at? Uh, kgrg, they're looking for a new site. Uh, maybe you're in auburn and you're able to help them out. Uh, let me know, send me a text 775-990-5151 um. So going back to our, our conversations in regards to drones, things of that nature, maybe it was just santa looking for some extra help, man, you know, I mean because you said it was a new a new cycle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, santa taking, yeah his elves. His elves have been algorithmized right, I mean they're ai driven, atomized, is sent out there, because I mean, they, they have actually changed. When this first happened I live in new york, so you know been getting a lot of this drone stuff on the local news, right. In fact, they've been leading with it, right? You know that's been the main story after luigi uh mandione got off the oh boy after that it became the lead story sure like um and um.
Speaker 3:He originally were reporting that the drones were the size of suvs and then that sort of got dropped right. That was like you know, that didn't really fly, so so then they got to be, you know, normal size drones and they're looking for something yeah well, you know what are easy there's.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of air traffic, you know, uh, during christ, during the holiday period, of time does increase, sure and um, you know, people have a hard time telling the difference between an airplane and something which is flying about, like you know. You know, two thousand five thousand feet higher, lower, those drones, and people have a hard time distinguishing these things, the depth, especially at night with the depth perception, things of that nature.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that perception is definitely on the decrease, I think, but uh, for sure you know, hey, man, whatever floats your boat, I mean, you know, if you think the drones are attacking.
Speaker 2:I mean I mean is this that people are like oh my god, it's telnet you they're looking for, you know missing. Whatever the case may be, I just I don't even want to put that kind of stuff out there, just because for my own. It could be aliens, you know because?
Speaker 3:remember that I don't know you're. You're a little younger than me. You might not remember this famous twilight zone episode where they um the, where the US, these people that you think are aliens from outer space, land in a woman's house and it turns out that the alien, the spaceship, is actually a US spaceship, you know, and they've landed on this planet where people are incredible giants. And they've landed on this planet where people are incredible giants. So it could be that they're little, tiny aliens flying in these drones, right.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think we should consider that. I mean that could be the case. Oh, what happened here? Oh, let me see if I can pull this up here. Oh, maybe I didn't get it right. I was trying to pull up the, uh the, the. They're like nine foot, they were nine feet, aliens or something like that. Uh, 1962, march. Uh, second, 1962 is when that premiered. I was trying to pull that up for us to and twilight zone.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, yeah, it was agnes moorhead and speaking of orson welles, she's actually in a lot of movies, um, but yeah, so I think I may have seen that in a rerun somewhere, but uh, I was. I could never. They play them over and over again, especially around the years I'm.
Speaker 2:I definitely was afraid of the twilight zone um.
Speaker 3:The music got me all it's creepy, yeah, I got had got me going back in the day got scared me for sure.
Speaker 3:I was definitely scared um well, that's the one that picture. There is the one from the most famous twilight zone, where they um, they um, give this. The aliens come down and they give the man, give humans this famous book, and they're trying to translate it, and all these humans are going to the alien planet, you know, and they don't seem to come back. But everybody assumes it's like they're enjoying up there. And then it turns out it's the name of the book is to serve man, and it turns out. And then the last thing you see is this guy screaming it's a cookbook, it's a cookbook which was like the best one.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that is so good. Think about that. Can you imagine people are like the ufos, are the? The drones are dropping off cookbooks. I, I mean tongue in cheek. Little tiny, little tiny cookbooks right you know, it's like everything that's been going on.
Speaker 3:You know just, reality isn't what it used to be. It is.
Speaker 2:It sure is not I mean the competition to stay, to stay relevant in a, in a, in a new cycle, to be able to say wow, I'm definitely. I'll be honest with you, man. It's like even doing the show once a week and I know we're ramping up to do two hours on one of our radio stations. So we will be doing two-hour shows coming up in 2025. We will be expanding to grab more radio stations across the country. That is coming in 2025. Those are predictions. Those are hard predictions. I know one of them will be true.
Speaker 3:Those are not predictions, those are like actual facts.
Speaker 2:Those are coming. Yes, we are working very hard. That is a huge goal for us this year. But it's interesting because, when you talk about the reality, people on social media, I mean, have taken the drone situation, the election situation to all these different avenues and I'm like, how much of this is AI driven? How much of this goes into these other buckets? It's just, it's crazy because you're like you know you do the show and you're like man. I mean I mean I can't even keep up, but you know we try, we try. So, for those that want to be a part of our annual prediction show, you can send us a text. Let us know what your prediction is. Let us know what city you're calling. Uh, sending your text from uh. 775-990-5151, um. Are we ready to get into this? Uh okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I have a few predictions. Sure, I have some. All right, you know what do you want to start?
Speaker 2:I, you know, let's start with technology, technology. What do you think about this whole advancement of technology the AI future, the quantum computer, the you know, I don't want to say cutting, yes, it is cutting and other cutting-edge technologies, maybe like the visual glasses, things like that. Do you think that's?
Speaker 3:Well, I think it's like people have to get off the idea that all this technological advancement is definitely gonna lead to a nasty future. I mean, um, like ai, you know, like, for instance, I, I do this uh reading series here in new york at a bar called the kgb bar. It's just, you know, it's named that, but it's a famous bar.
Speaker 3:We've been doing this, we've been doing this reading series for 33 years and I wanted to do a session we do different topics, you know, because we have these readers mostly journalists to come and I wanted to do one on the future, right for next month, because there'll be a new month, and everybody that wanted to participate all had these like really brutal, you know, dystopic ideas about what was going to happen. Nobody in the world seems to believe that tomorrow is going to be better than today or today is better than yesterday. Everybody's living in the past and you know, I felt that I wasn't really willing to accept that, because you know there is another way to look at this kind of stuff. You know the world's going to keep on going, no matter what, and you know why not be a little more optimistic about it. I mean, not every single technological advance or d you know, devolve opposite of the advance is necessarily going to be a bad thing.
Speaker 3:Um, you know so I mean it's so true when you say that, because you get away from that, and when you talk about it's true you know when you talk about what you were doing there.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know, to have that, to do something like that. It's funny because when you, I went to go back to listen to some of the old prediction shows from art bell and it was I mean, you'll be interesting to see what some of our uh texters say but a lot of doom and gloom in those days. You know, oh, you know the 2009. You know the uh, the they were calling. Basically, you know a from a former. One of the clintons is part of the devil clan and you know the.
Speaker 2:You know that kind of, that kind of thing I mean so you, you had these predictions in 2009 from art bell that were coming through, that were just it was all doom and gloom. There was nothing that was like, as you said.
Speaker 3:That would be like, yes, it's like, I don't know, maybe having a look at, take a look at the advancement of uh pardon the expression human intellectual history. Um, I know that that's a nasty word, but, um, the thing is that, uh, because we're not supposed to think too much with our brains these days somehow makes you suspect. So like, um, the ideas are, like you know, when they were inventing things like the airplane and uh sure you know all that, which is very similar.
Speaker 3:Actually, the the period of time around world war one, the beginning of the 20th century, is not that unlike now. Right, um, you had these new machines that came online more or less. Um, cars, planes, stuff like that. That really changed everyday life. Radio, you know right, eventually, television, all these things. Now you've got the computer, which really has re completely, is completely reshuffled human existence. So and I think that there's never really been I mean, your business life has totally changed. Your daily life has totally changed. Your relations with other people have been totally changed, just by the mere fact that you have to go through this machine that we're talking through right now. So now you, you got to look at the applications of that and whether or not this is just a fact. This is not, this is the way it is, you know. So what are we supposed to? What are we supposed to make of that? So people that are just basically doom and gloomers will always look at the downside of it. It doesn't mean that they're when they talk about going off the grid. Those people that go off the grid, they never stop using the computer. I mean, how are you supposed to live in this day and age or talk to people unless you use technology. So there's no.
Speaker 3:And since I mean, there's a narrative about technology that really kind of begins with that 2001, when the computer is Until then, science was considered to be your friend, right, right, you know science was going to make things better.
Speaker 3:You know human progress was going to make things better. And then, at a certain point, when the human brain became sort of like the enemy of humanity, it's like the devil's workshop, what's in your head, with the thoughts you might have and this kind of stuff. And it's a really complicated topic which doesn't really fit into this format necessarily, but most people read it as a pernicious thing and it makes people go back to the church and believe in stuff that they used to believe in. You know, I'm not I'm not saying good or bad, I'm not making a value judgment on this kind of stuff, but, um, you know, right now we're looking at a dystopic situation because almost everything seems to be out of our control. We don't have control of things and there's also the possibility that, since the human brain is stop me if I'm going too far- going too crazy.
Speaker 2:The crazier, the better, right?
Speaker 3:Well, the brain is a plastic protein kind of thing. Is a plastic protein kind of thing? It, it, it enables you to filter, you know, it enables you to think. It's what makes human beings human beings, or else they would be something else without that gigantic thing between our ears. So, um, you, the, the brain, is endlessly adaptable. So if you're getting all your information and all that sort of stuff that we're talking about through those machines, you know, I yeah, I'm not a brain scientist, but I'm interested in this kind of stuff how is, how is that reconfiguring your actual physiological makeup, sure of how you think, and all that kind of stuff like that? But it's not just propaganda. I mean, I'm thinking that the actual machine, the machine between your brain, you know, the gray matter machine, is actually being re… Because it's going to…. If you believe in evolution, that seems… I mean, not everybody does you know, but… Right, if you do.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 3:I happen to believe in evolution, so I'm thinking that things Well, how do?
Speaker 2:you.
Speaker 3:You know, any kind of organism is always going to adapt to its surroundings.
Speaker 2:Sure, I mean, think about it, Like how much people are getting, you know, like getting their endorphins filled from looking at, you know, social media and scrolling and things of that nature. And filled from looking at, you know, social media and scrolling and things of that nature, and really it's, it's it, just it really has changed it's a head, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, it really is. Comes from. Yeah, it's crazy. Um, we are getting some text, let's just, let's go ahead. Oh, are you really so? Look at it that way and then you can sort of say, like, well, okay, I I mean, are we, are we the things that are coming out of our head and out of our mouths? I mean, is that actual human reality or is that computer reality? I mean and it's like it falls very nicely into the idea of the enemy within kind of thing Sure that that invasions of by division of the body, snatchers. Remember that old movie, yeah, yes, which has been used a million? I mean Trump was talking about the enemy within in the past.
Speaker 3:I don't know who he means. But that idea that paranoid, that you're not in control of your fate, that is really dominating the current thing and that's going to be a major talking point in any kind of like vision of the future, which is kind of what we're talking about. If you want to do predictions, I mean I can make a prediction like, okay, um, donald trump and elon musk are now by by a year and a half from now, are going to have this total public blow up, you know, and and it's going to be, uh, people are going to line up with the musk idea that that kind of corporate technic kind of crap thing.
Speaker 3:Or they're going to go with trump. Who's going to be? Yeah, regardless of. You know this kind of a demigod at least he's identifiable as a human being, right, you know? Right, I wouldn't say necessarily the same thing for Elon Musk, you know, and I think the Republican Party is going to split on these levels.
Speaker 2:As we continue to talk about predictions for 2025, it's interesting to me when you talk about that. There will be a lot. I believe that you'll see a hard line in the sand and we'll see how this is going to play out. But as we continue to talk about technology, I got to tell you, man I mean as as a parent, you know, of a 16 year old it is, it is it is. It is very rough.
Speaker 2:It is very rough, it is. It's very challenging to to let them have these types of things but to uh to limit the restriction and and there are applications within the phone to uh restrict, you know, access to be able to download anything on on their phones, to to be able to say you can only have an allotment of time on on your phone, or to be able to send text or things of that nature.
Speaker 3:so I don't know if that's going to work. I mean you're still, you're still getting is if you're a parent, you grew up in a certain kind of world. Now your children are growing up in a different world and you don't understand it the way, the way you would wish you did. Right, they have a different kind of mentality, right? I mean there's really not any way that you can. You can put your foot down as much as you want, you know Right, but it didn't.
Speaker 2:But it didn't, you're right, it's the point right it the evolution of what how you grew up versus how I grew up, versus how she grew up. What? What I will say is listening to her, have a her and I have a conversation about you. You're, I go. What do you mean? She goes you didn't grow up with you know a pandemic.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, I, I, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, well, I'm going through it with you right now. She's like, yeah, but you didn't like miss school and have to do it virtually and and things of that nature.
Speaker 3:So it's interesting like that's a legitimate complaint.
Speaker 2:Sure you know, a legitimate feeling yeah, and I was like, damn, you're right because what they lived through right and I and I was like you're damn right, I, I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't relate to you, as you were just saying. I cannot relate to her, but I can tell her. You know I can't say the same thing about 9-11. She didn't. You know she's a. You know she's supposed to 9-11 baby, obviously because she was born in 2008. But you know it's still to for me to say, well, damn, that was like that was my, that the 9-11 situation goes back to those who remember pearl harbor bombing. You know like you look at these, you know, I, I mean, I'm just comparing my generation.
Speaker 3:We grew up with the idea that the world was going to blow up, so you had to put because because they, they had a, the russians had atom bombs and and they were doing the best they could to convince you that your days were numbered.
Speaker 2:I love those videos.
Speaker 3:Nevertheless, we're still here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do love those videos where you would go underneath your desk, hold on, bend over.
Speaker 3:I mean, I really did that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:You'd hide under your desk, like that was going to help you if if they dropped it out of bob right.
Speaker 2:The only thing they're looking for is we're gonna live, we're gonna.
Speaker 3:We'd be all right as long as they're gonna find. They're gonna find you holding your.
Speaker 2:They're gonna find a bot. They're gonna find nothing but vapor dust, maybe your name tag that says tell you that right, right, they just said arc too depressing. They're like I think right. They're like it just says arc on it on the name tag. They're like oh, that was uh, mark jacobson. Okay, so we identified.
Speaker 3:They used to have these things called shelter drills. They used to go in the basement of the school and then you and you didn't speak because, like you know, somehow they were listening. But this was like I'm talking about this is 1956 or something like that. So I mean they don't have that anymore. They still have it if they have more bombs than they ever did ever. So somehow people have realized going in the basement of a school is really not going to help you, so we don't even talk about it.
Speaker 2:Just kiss your ass, goodbye, right? Just kiss your ass, goodbye.
Speaker 3:But you know, that's why I feel optimistic about these kinds of things. I mean, the worst, the human, human, human brain has an unbelievable capacity to think of the worst case scenario. You know, I mean, how many times have you been thinking like? You know it's a little unsure. It could be anything like what the test is going to be at school, or am I going to find a parking space, or you know whatever. And you always think of the worst case scenario. And then you're like amazingly surprised what it turns out to be easier than you thought Right.
Speaker 3:So you know, but, um, you know, not always, but it happens quite frequently.
Speaker 2:So I'm I'm always looking for the happy ending uh legitimate happy ending, not a phony happy ending Right, happy, right, uh, text coming in 775-990-5151. Let's go to this text. It says um hi, us phenomenon. This is jerry from ocean shores listening on kosw. One of our uh, our, our local affiliates down in ocean shores. We thank you for listening on kosw and we look forward to two hours of us phenomenon coming to kosw and we look forward to two hours of us phenomenon coming to kosw. So we look forward to that here in the near future. Um, my, his, his future prediction on the technology piece is the ai will become an integral part of our daily lives and we'll see more ai driven solutions in health care, education and even in our homes, with advancements when in the smart devices, the pace of ai, that's already happening. Right, I mean right for sure, so pretty.
Speaker 3:That's a pretty safe prediction yeah, yeah, pretty sure, jerry.
Speaker 2:We thank you for sending in your prediction. It's awesome that you uh sent that in and you know people taking part. Uh, we also have another text uh that I have here. That's from a listener in duval that says I believe ai development needs to slow down. The rapid pace of ai is advancing, posing significant risks, including ethical concerns and potential job displacements and privacy issues well, that's definitely true I mean, uh, thank you, um, best wishes.
Speaker 2:From a listener in duval. Um, yes, I guess you don't have to send us your, your full information. If you want to stay anonymous, please do so. We just want you to be a part of the show and, uh, we thank you to uh um, our listener in duval, who's listening on, I believe, kapy, or maybe he's listening on the flagship station KPI Did not say, but it's interesting to me. When we talk about these advancement things of that nature, I'm going to say, you know, especially when we talk about technology, mark, are we thinking that, uh, we? Are we thinking that tiktok, are we the days of tiktok? Uh, gonna be the band you think that's gonna go through, or do you think, uh, I?
Speaker 3:actually, I actually don't believe it's gonna go through, because you got, you can't throw away all those likes and all those listeners, I mean all that stuff. What are they planning on doing? I mean, where is that going to go? I mean it just gets banned right unless unless they've got some other, some other platform to to put it on. I mean, I don't really. I think it's all saber rattling myself, yeah I don't, I don't buy it.
Speaker 2:I mean because I believe it was my understanding, uh, back in the the first, uh the first time Trump was in it during his administration, I think he had talked about possibly banning it. And now I believe that the administration is looking at ways to continue to evolve and make this thing a thing you know, to continue from having it banned under the soon-to-be previous administration having it bent under the, the soon-to-be previous administration.
Speaker 3:I I just I just really don't think that most american presidential administrations, and certainly the one that would be headed by donald trump, is going to do anything that's going to cut off, uh, financial expansionism. It just you know, anything that's making money is not going to be banned. That's just me. You can look for more stuff, like you know I. I look for more stuff like legalizing gambling, legalizing, you know, the, the, the cannabis thing, all that stuff there's gonna be more of that you don't think that?
Speaker 2:do you think it's not going?
Speaker 3:to Bambi. That's not gonna be any banning. Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be utilizing some previous vices, things that were illegal, to benefit um sex workers as legal wealth.
Speaker 2:That ain't going. That ain't going to go through the sex work. The ladies of the night are sex workers, or that thing won't, no it depends on.
Speaker 3:It, depends on, won't. No, it depends on. It depends on, you know, it depends on where, I mean in europe, is you can look at what's happening. I mean the people that I mean. If you're making money out of it in holland and you know, whatever most european countries, I mean they might. You might, because that that's pretty much a state issue. Right, that's one thing that's interesting about it, because you, you know, somebody might try it.
Speaker 2:I mean it's true in.
Speaker 3:Nevada, it's legal.
Speaker 2:Right In certain parts of Nevada like Carson City, pahrump.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, you know no wonder why I lived out in Pahrump. If it's financially viable, Right, you know why not?
Speaker 2:Also, I think that that you know, I think the local government can also, you know, look at this as some you know side revenue to be able to, you know, monitor and make it side revenue and also it cuts down a lot of bent up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, aggression, yeah, sure it might end up in, right, I just, but then you know we go back to this.
Speaker 2:You know this, this, this, this new administration coming in, I I buy to be not something that we will see. I think this will be because of maybe being more of a conservative movement that we're seeing right now. I don't think that maybe that will be a thing. Maybe the cannabis, but I just don't see that that piece moves forward. Yeah, but who knows Anything's?
Speaker 3:possible. I mean the cannabis thing. I mean I'm a big supporter of cannabis, but I don't really necessarily feel 100% in favor of the legalization, the way it's been legalized, I mean the way they've rolled it out. You know, yeah, you know just, and here in New York the thing has been delayed for a long, long time because they're fighting about who's going to get the tax money, you know, and it's led to all kinds of irregularities.
Speaker 2:It's interesting because when you talk about you know how, you know banks. You know local cannabis is here in the state of Washington. There's only like one bank, I think it's a credit union, I don't remember which one, I was told because I was opening up a, a business account for, for, uh, for the production company bigfoot productions, which this uh, not not that I've made a dime off of any of this, but um work harder yeah, gotta work harder.
Speaker 2:Yes, uh, but there's a, there's a few banks, there's only a couple of banks that are around that will take your you know your weed-infested money and securely save it.
Speaker 3:So it's still pretty much a cash business out there. Yeah, yeah. I mean you can't pay with a credit card.
Speaker 2:Nope, you cannot. You can go to the they have like.
Speaker 3:I think here you can pay with a credit card actually, but I'm gonna I don't I mean.
Speaker 2:My mind is cool guy.
Speaker 3:I got my, I got my guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, so um, but right, um, and you know I it's funny because I've heard stories of um people who will go on 420 and they have a guy and then they'll go to the cannabis store buy it and then take their, their, their cannabis stuff that they got, and then their stuff and they got from their, their their guy, and then intermix it to make their own. You know, because sometimes you know what the concentration is you're going to get from the, from, you know, from the cannabis store, versus what you're going to get from your, your local mom and pop dude or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3:So well, I mean, the thing is that the cannabis kind of stuff is like from people I know that know, actually know something about that right the um the main. The main goal for commercial cannabis is to pump up that thc number right towards 30, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's better. Better weed right you know, just because the cannabis, just because the thc number is higher, that you know there are a lot of other things that go into that, that make you yeah, people want to smoke marijuana so you won't catch me.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I'm not that guy I. I mean, I remember smoking back in the day and, um, not, it's not for me. I, I'm the guy that's from the thing I mean.
Speaker 3:Another thing about that is like just what you just said. I mean marijuana isn't marijuana. You know, they said that alcohol consumption has been down of late.
Speaker 2:You know especially among younger people.
Speaker 3:I'm 85, I don't see how that could possibly be.
Speaker 2:I'm 85 days without drinking.
Speaker 3:Millions of bars that are all crowded. But I mean, the fact of the matter is, I think, not that many people really want to smoke pot. Yeah, it's not going to be that kind of across the board kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Well, and Because it's not a social thing.
Speaker 3:Sure, you don't feel like you want to go to a bar. You hang out with other people, you drink, you, you do stuff. You know blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:But um, that's, cannabis is more solitary kind of thing right and I I've heard that people have gone to the cannabis versus the drinking piece. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm 85 days without drinking, not because I had an issue, but just because I I wanted to feel better and then, I was a social drinker. I don't, you know, I'm not, I'll eventually go.
Speaker 3:I'll eventually go back I just, I basically don't drink, but you know if, if, if, yeah, if something comes up.
Speaker 2:You know I was telling my buddies like, hey, are you still gonna do the tequila tasting thing with us? Hell, yeah, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do that. You know, it doesn't mean I've just I'm just changing how that's going to look for me. So I thought this was a fun thing to do. That, you know, it doesn't mean I've just I'm just changing how that's going to look for me. So I thought this was a fun thing to do for sober October, which was way long ago 85, you know and it just kind of stuck and I was like, let's just see how and you're happy.
Speaker 3:you're happy not to be drinking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I was never a big drinker, but it was just like, oh, let me to see how long I could do this now without you know. Yeah, the social aspects of going out and being with friends, you can get through, if you can get.
Speaker 3:If you can get through the christmas season without drinking you probably are you're probably a good way along the way wow, because I mean you know.
Speaker 3:But just to get back to the um, the prediction, one of one of the things I feel about the technological um stuff that is coming down the pike. Yeah, like, for instance, I was in um, I went, I went on a vacation to panama. Right, yeah, I want to see the panama connect. Now. It was a couple months ago, so there's no way to get on the internet in panama except if you use the vpn darling, oh yeah, sure so that's it.
Speaker 3:so, in other words, you have a situation where one person, if he doesn't, if he's pissed off about something, can flip a switch and you're not on the internet anymore. So I think that that is, since it seems like nasa is more or less being like before. Nasa was the government agency, right, and big companies like McDonnell Douglas and stuff like that. They worked for NASA, yeah. Now I think NASA is being folded into the Musk company, yeah, spacex, and that's a big change. That will be a big change, because you're talking about the privatization of space, right, which may be. I mean, I really don't even but really is it.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's still it's still, it's, it's a, it's a feeling you know sure it's, and it's, let's be honest it's still subsidized by the federal government. He's still getting money for yeah, you know so private my ass, but I mean, well, it's true. Yeah, you're right, it is private, but it's not like.
Speaker 2:It's not like nasa is the. It's not the. The person that at the you know like, as we all remember it as growing up watching, you know them. Bring in these video cards to watch.
Speaker 3:They're not going to be any john glenn figures coming out of the elon musk era. You know, I mean these kind of people that everybody knew who they were right and that kind of stuff. You know, I mean those two, those two poor people that are stuck up there in that spacecraft because boeing can't get their stuff together. Nobody knows their names yeah they barely know they're up there right, I mean, you know it was, it's um, that's gonna, that's a potential major sea change yeah, and then that that that the idea of the internet and and space exploration will be in the hands of a few people same with electrical cars as well too.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're, you know they. Yeah, I mean a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3:I mean you know there's going to be. I don't know how these monopoly cases are going to go against big tech people like Google or Zuckerberg or any kind of people like that. They're inevitable that they're going to happen, but they're not going to happen during the Trump administration because that's not what he does. So you know. You know I'm not knocking Donald Trump. There's still. That's his model. You know he doesn't want to do that. So, um, but there's going to be a lot of people that are going to feel that way.
Speaker 3:So that that's something that's up in the air, but I think as a prediction you're going to see far more privatization, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean, as we continue to go through our top five predictions. I know one I sent you the other day too was climate change and the environment.
Speaker 2:I mean we saw here in the Pacific Northwest. I know there was a huge they called it the cyclone Bomb which was this yeah God, I mean, I kid you not, it was the most interesting. I didn't lose power, I didn't skip a beat during the, but I live in a building that is brand new within the you know. So everything was built underground. So all of my I mean you, yeah, you got to take out a substation before I'm going dark, right? So most of these people that lived in the foothills and the cascades all were losing power and were out for days. You know, possibly You're going to.
Speaker 3:You're going to see a lot of, I mean, what you should see, but the insurance company has taken the lead here, right, they're not going to insure you if they think you're in a situation which they're going to have to spend money. That's against their ethic and they're never going to do that. So the federal flood insurance kind of stuff, people that are insisting that they want to live by the beach, no matter what, and it doesn't make a difference if the sea is rising or not, you know they're still going to get flooded every so often, and if they can't get flood insurance, that's going to be that. So I think what happens is, you know, there is a real separation between the people that can afford it, right, people that can't afford it, and the people that can't afford it, and most people can't afford it. So you know, that kind of climate change thing which they can fight about, the fossil fuel stuff and all that's all politics, right, but at a certain point it really affects the social system.
Speaker 3:I mean, where you can't build your house in a certain kind of place. I mean that's the American ethic that you're supposed to build your house wherever you want to build it, that you can afford to and get your little two-acre thing or quarter of an acre thing, and then, if you get like these no-go zones which are going to be determined by banks and insurance companies, not necessarily by the government, because it's poor politics to um, legislate that kind of stuff, you know people don't like it. So um, it's been proven by the last election. People don't want to be told what to do sure, and I'm I think.
Speaker 3:I think that's fine, you know, but but there was a big downside to this kind of stuff, because you'd have to be out of your mind to think that the climate is not changing, you know, I mean, unless they're making up all these hurricanes and tornadoes and stuff like that which I don't think they are Right.
Speaker 2:it's interesting because I know I've done a show way. I mean, we're talking way long ago, back in the 2020s, and I had a guy come on the show to talk about.
Speaker 3:Back in the Stone Age.
Speaker 2:Yeah, talk about geoengineering these storms. And it was interesting because then, as the evolution has gone on, there was a segment but I can't tell you if it was real or not. It was the meteorologist from ABC, ginger Z or whatever her name is was talking about geoengineering of storms and I was like wait, is this real? I mean, I really should go back to look for it. But it was so interesting to hear something that I recorded like obviously it was like at that point was you know, in 2020. But to hear it within the last year and a half, two years, kind of like, threw me for a loop. I was like wait, is this segment a real segment that she's covering, saying kind of the same information that he was, you know, giving us spraying these clouds. I got to go back and find the segment yeah, but what?
Speaker 3:to what end? Right, you know why are they doing that. Who's who's gonna profit from that? Well, I mean, it's just and it's the same thing what is that gonna do for you, even if you're doing it?
Speaker 2:right, I mean it's still tell me.
Speaker 3:Tell me, I've got to know, I've got to know if there's something like that happening and somebody is intentionally doing it, please tell me what they're going to get out of it. Just, you know, that's a proof, right. Well, who was going to? You know, it's the ancient old idea of conspiracy. Who benefits, right, right so?
Speaker 2:who benefits from?
Speaker 3:that you know. I don't know.
Speaker 2:So I mean, let's go back and look about somebody named juniors ginger Z. I mean, you're believing what you say I, I didn't say I was believing it. I just was like I think I don't know that I was believing it would just for me, and it's always been this way, as I've heard the information before, I'm hearing it again and I was like, oh, that's interesting, I'd have to go back and listen to it. I I've I'm always a skeptic to that kind of thing, but hear a mainstream to hear a mainstream meteorologist talk about something like that kind of threw me for a loop.
Speaker 2:I was like, wait a second, where are we going with this?
Speaker 3:But to go. You know I'm wearing the situation now. We're like you know. Okay, you're saying that, but prove it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and here oh the you know the stars, they're trying to get us, you know, and you're like who's getting you, who's really trying to?
Speaker 3:get you you know, I mean, why are we humans? Are who has the, who has who has, who has the actual power, or whatever? The machinery is that? Whatever you need to do to make that happen. Please show me that right and what and what these, what these machines consist of. You know because you know I don't know. You know it's just like there's some a lot of the conspiracy stuff. It gets tiresome after a while because it's just contrarian kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Very much. It's not the same. It's not the same as what it once I mean you wouldn't even know about it.
Speaker 3:I like a good conspiracy theory. I mean, I love a good conspiracy theory, but I've said this a million times, it's like anything else there are good conspiracy theories and bad conspiracy theories, and ones that are stupid are bad conspiracy theories. They've got to have at least a little juice in them, you know, to make me feel like well, john Kennedy shot him playing. You know they shot him the crime of the century. Yet nobody knows who did it. That's a good conspiracy theory 100%.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know right, that's a good conspiracy theory 100 I mean, you know, I mean, and that's why it's still going on here, like you know, you haven't, you have nobody, you have nobody right, you have nobody to ask you like, hey, you can't really go back and be like hey, oswald, what happened? And now everybody's dead. So therefore, it'll remain, remain in the in the category of you know, the coldest case out there, you know.
Speaker 2:So what's interesting, I mean, that's the category of you know the coldest case out there, you know. Well, it's interesting. I mean, that's the kind of stuff, or like the DB Cooper one too. How about the DB Cooper conspiracy of?
Speaker 3:Yeah, db Cooper. Db Cooper is an interesting one. So, to go back to this kind of stuff, we were talking about climate, I mean. Then we got up to health.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:I think I mean I don't know. I mean I mean I don't know, I mean you tell me I was really shocked about the reaction to the shooting of that CEO guy. I mean the enormous amount of like, just like, well, you know I'm sorry for his family and all that kind of stuff, but gee man, anybody, that guy, you know he had it coming, that kind of that kind of mentality which is, like you know, I got to say, everybody I know feels that way.
Speaker 3:I will say and I think that's a significant event what I've heard and what I've seen around the pacific.
Speaker 2:There was a sign I don't know if you saw this here locally that someone put up you know one ceo, down many more to come. Someone put that on one of those construction reader signs here in the pacific northwest and I'm like what is going on? Where is the compassion?
Speaker 3:this wasn't like look, where is the compassion on the other side, right.
Speaker 2:Look for me. Look, I'm one of the guys who, you know we all have been screwed over by the health care system Some way, some shape or some form. Look, I'm not someone who's like, oh, they got one. You know like, yeah, that ain't me. I'm not that who's like, oh, they got one, you know, like, yeah, that ain't me. I'm not that kind of person. I like I, that's not how I think, that's not how I'm wired. That was a human being that was killed. Now we're going to find out what exactly. Maybe we're going to find out more about, you know, maybe he was living a secret life.
Speaker 3:We don't know, you know, I mean regardless of what the actual details of that particular case is. The real thing that was surprising and shocking and kind of interesting, like in a big deep way, was the reaction to the idea of, like these people, these are the people with the real power. They have power life and death. You know, sure, I mean as opposed to like you know well, Joe Biden, people with the real power. They have power of life and death, you know, sure, I mean as opposed to like you know well, joe Biden, he's a terrible guy, but I mean, or like you know, whoever you want to say, I mean, these guys are.
Speaker 2:There is one thing I've wondered the red tape and the whole you know, making sure your I's and dot's are T's and cross and stuff like that, right?
Speaker 3:Well, also, I mean, the thing is like, you know, whatever happened I mean, when you talk about social movements, whatever happened to the Earth Firsters and those kind of like, and even Occupy Wall Street guys, there was energy in that, you know. From the other, you know, it's not necessarily political left, these are people that are angry about something right, right, left, right. These are people that are angry about something, right, you know, and that, that, that anger thing was sort of, you know, you gotta, anger is something that's like a gas, you know, right, it's got to come out somewhere, you know. So, um, and uh, I think that this thing, one of the part of the, uh, I mean, it's kind of shocking. But to read the new york times comment section and see a thousand comments, um, you know more or less saying, uh, well, it's terrible about that guy, but, gee, whiz the hell, you know why.
Speaker 3:It's about time somebody did something about that, even though I don't agree with the act. So that is a kind of like underground bubbling thing that is. You know, it'd be interesting to see how that works out. Where is that kind of feeling, that, really, which is across the board?
Speaker 2:it isn't just the kick me down movement. It's like we've been down for these people have been down for such a long time. So I don't want to say suppressed, but um, uh the word might be. I don't want to say controlled either. Um it, maybe it is controlled under. Uh, you know they're like, well, we finally got one. But this is something that may may have changed over the evolution of time in the last 30 years. I I mean they're probably more less. I mean less people going to church. There are less people. You know the evolution of like. I mean how many people are getting shot out here and they're like. You know these mass shootings and things of that nature where you're like it, the compassion. I wasn't. I never played with guns. I I mean not that we were rich enough to go to a gun thing or anything of that nature, but my dad was like no, you don't play with us very much to get a gun right, a nice paretta right.
Speaker 2:But but still it was like my. You know, my, my dad said that you're not going to play with guns because guns as a kid is not. You're not allowed to play with guns. Guns are not okay to be played with as a child. Now, if you want to go to the gun range as an adult and as an you know, then we can go, but in the meantime I wasn't allowed to have that. That was just my upbringing. Do what I say. You know, it's the same thing as everyone used to say back in the 80s and 90s that video games were making these kids, you know, do these crazy things. In regards to these shooting games and like the grand theft autos of the world and things of that, first, you know the double oh sevens, that first person type shooting, there was no consequence to it. You know, you died, you came back. So is that numbing people?
Speaker 3:But look, flip Mario. Consider the difference between this particular incident and most of these incidents. That people go crazy about gun stuff right? I mean most most of the people who do these things. That wind go crazy about gun stuff right, I mean most most of the people who do these things that wind up committing suicide or like they want to get suicided by cop or whatever it is that their long-term goal is because they're not thinking very clearly. I mean, nobody who goes into a school without shooting people is thinking that clearly, right?
Speaker 3:right so um, you know, but there's a lot of rage involved. So here the difference between that those kind of just standing out by the uh, looking out the window and shooting people, random people and this guy, the reason why people and I'm not condoning his act or any of that kind of stuff, but, um, the difference between this and that is here's a guy, his back is hurting him, his back is hurting him.
Speaker 3:I know, I know he's rich, right, but his back is hurting him, and if anybody who's ever had any back pain can tell you when your back is hurting, it's very hard to think clearly. So, um, and now he can't. He used to be a very handsome guy, he was the valedictorian of the school, right, you know. And now he's. He used to be a very handsome guy, he was a valedictorian of the school, right, you know. And now he's going, he's descending, and he's descending kind of into madness, you know, in the way that Unabomber kind of descending into madness.
Speaker 3:Yet instead of going on a bus and just shooting random people, he actually figures out the one guy who he feels is responsible for his pain and he has the wherewithal to get rid of the guy. So you know, that's a different situation than a guy, a disgruntled worker, goes into the post office and starts shooting people. So the gun issue, which always seems to be the thing that nobody can get past, I think is somewhat mitigated by this particular act. And I think that there's been a lot of rage in this society about government stuff, but very little rage about corporate control. Here's somebody who actually is doing this. So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of that kind of stuff. I wouldn't be surprised. Corporate control sure, here's somebody who actually is doing this. So, um, yeah, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of that kind of stuff. I wouldn't be surprised I.
Speaker 3:I would say that I don't know if that's a prediction. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's definitely. Uh, it's definitely eye-awaking to see something of this magnitude. Uh, it will be interesting to see how things come out, uh, to hear more about the the situations there are a lot of. There are a lot of different avenues that this story has gone down in the world of conspiracies, which are very interesting the tunnel look at the legs it has.
Speaker 3:It has an enormous amount of legs it's wild.
Speaker 2:On how many different avenues the secret tunnels. Who is he tied to? Now they're talking about possibly Luigi being set up. I mean, it's just like, as you said, the veins of these conspiracies. It's like a fungus, it just is rapidly spreading right.
Speaker 3:But it affects people's and the reason I think what gives these things like life, you know, in other words, like it goes on past, like QAnon or something like that, something that really takes off, you know, yeah, it's because people actually care about the issues that are involved, you know. So it's not just being stage managed by somebody. People actually touch by these issues.
Speaker 2:Sure, I mean mean this could go all the way back to you know uh, william cooper, I mean I mean think about like obviously different times right, cooper is a legitimate person.
Speaker 3:Man. Yeah, he had. He had legitimate bitches about the society, right I mean he sure did and people, and people could uh identify with him, you know he was relate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people could relate to him and and. But what's interesting to me is, like I, the piece that I love the most about and I always bring this up because it's so much too interesting to me is, like, what is this caucasian white male in his 50s have? How does he relate to, like the hip-hop community? You know, like you said this so many times, and it's so interesting to me because is it being the suppression of of a, of a society, you know, of a race?
Speaker 3:um, well it. It kind of like, you know that, that idea that the book, that his book, behold the pale horse, became so popular, and that was the first thing that really got me interested in the topic. Right, right, I said, oh, this book is the most popular book in the prison system. Right, I mean the number one. There are two books that every prisoner would read. That one and mostly black people read that actually, because for some reason they identify with it. And then there's the other one, that robert green book, the 48 laws of power. Now, those two books were the most read books in prison, or at least for a period of time. I don't know what they read now, but, um, you know it's uh. So why is that?
Speaker 3:He got a? He got a pretty paranoid white man who lives on top of a hill in the middle of nowhere, right, and he got a bunch of black. You know neo-rappers, you know people before, you know, because the book was written in 1991. And it comes out in 1991, which is like the end of the Cold War. There's a lot of, you know, they said that we got rid of the commies, everything is going to be fine, you know, but actually things weren't fine, you know I mean so, maybe something else. That was like making people miserable, you know, um, these things, I mean it, the contextual thing of it, and then also the paranoia expressed in that book. And I don't mean paranoia necessarily as a terribly terrible thing, because, um, sometimes paranoia is completely worth warrant, you know.
Speaker 3:So who could be more paranoid than a black guy who's in prison, you know, who feels like he doesn't belong there? He's only there because he's black, right, sure, you know, I think William Cooper spoke to those people. And then the fact that he had that stuff like the Hegelian dialectic you know if you know what I'm talking about, yeah, stuff like the hegelian dialectic. You know if you know what I'm talking about, yeah, and that that really attracted a lot of the kind of thinking rappers, those kind of people as five percenter dudes who really were the main rap groups in the early 1990s, like everybody from tupac to, uh, you know, prodigy and all those, all those big early rappers know that had that kind of like housing project following and stuff like that. These people were very, you know, tuned into that same stuff. And you know it's one of the weirdest, it's one of the strangest kind of leaps across the racial barrier, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got a text coming in from tim, from bremerton. Should we, let's, let's, let's see what tim's got here for a prediction? My prediction for 2025 is we'll see, uh see, a trend in more people getting divorced compared to the number of kids being born. Society changes interesting. He believes that there's going to be okay. Well, I mean, I don't know tim are you getting? Divorced. Is that what you're predicting?
Speaker 3:You're getting divorced. I'm getting divorced. Yeah, tim Tim, that was what my reaction was. Right, tim Tim?
Speaker 2:what are you projecting here? Are you projecting that you are getting divorced Tim from Bremerton? He must be listening to us on our flagship station.
Speaker 3:KVI. I mean, you know, Tim, marriage is a difficult thing, Tim.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. Go back and listen to our previous podcast. We got up there with a marriage of 57 years, a couple that has fought through the tumultuous of relationships. It's interesting to me because when I go back and I listen to a lot of these different predictions and we talk about this, you know, you know people out here saying, oh, there was going to be this, this whole huge thing. Uh, a movement where you know the conspiracy in regards to the election again, and I'm like we're not, we're talking about not a conservative, we're talking about um, as we get close to wrapping up things here, uh, a movement from a liberal side. I'm like there's no way in chance in hell that you guys are going to go and do anything of a sort. You know, you know it's just interesting to see to keep the, the, the channels open that you know watching the. You know the twitter, the x of the world. You know the social media platforms, just kind of looking the tiktoks of the world. Tiktok is way crazy out there.
Speaker 2:It is on levels that are like beyond my capacity because it's it's a free-for-all out there and when you start doesn't mean you're gonna, it's not gonna get banned oh no, no no, I'm not saying that's gonna get banned, I'm just saying that the avenues of which, how people are consuming that type of media, how much of that they're believing is true, how much of them not being, you know able to.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it's like oh wow, that looked real, that wasn't ai driven, it was some guy made up this full story about the drones looking for some, you know, blah, blah, blah. However that plays out, and however these different short-term stories are being presented, on whatever platform it may be, and there are people such as yourself or myself I haven't had any issues lately, but who get a strike, I feel like it is my obligation, my duty as someone, as a steward of this podcast, this show, this radio broadcast, to continue to meet the requirements of, of, you know, having a dialogue, to be able to have an open conversation, to be able to say, well, we don't know, you know, to be able to be like well, is it possible? Sure, anything's possible, but at the end of the day, that's.
Speaker 2:That's what makes for conversation yeah, for sure, uh, speculation, yeah, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3:One thing I think which isn't going to be interesting is, like you know, the way it's being played now is that trump was like a massive winner. Like you know, he only really basically squeaked through, you know, yeah, um, on the popular vote. So, and now, due to the way the system is worked out, the the winner-take-all system, which I don't think is really that good an idea, you know there's going to be a lot of frustration among the people that don't like him and they're going to come up. They're not going to just sit there. You know they might come up with there's going to be some pushback here, and that's the kind of thing like you want to think about. If you look for something that might be a predictive thing, like how the pushback is, the, you know, somewhat unusual situation that we have now. I mean, there's going to be pushback and how is that pushback going to appear?
Speaker 3:you know, it's not going to be just is it going to be an image being?
Speaker 3:being all upset about misgendering people. It's not going to be like that anymore because, first of all, nobody cares. Number two you know it's not going to get you anything, sure. So this identity politics thing okay, we realize that, you know it's important to a lot of people, but it doesn't win elections and there's going to be some. There's a lot of people that are thinking about trying to figure out what to do about this and they're going to come up with some ideas, and some of them are going to be good ideas and some of them are going to be potentially corrosive ideas. And I think it's worth thinking about because there's energy in the room and there's going to always be energy.
Speaker 2:You want to see how that energy is going to manifest itself our guests and I mark jacobson, as we get close to wrapping things up from the pacific northwest and uh across the coast, uh all the way in, uh the east coast. Um, we got a another text from where the east coast Coast West.
Speaker 3:Coast over here dog East Coast yeah.
Speaker 2:Prediction from. We got another one from Jason, from Yelm. He's predicting that we're going to see an increase in volcanic activity around Mount Adams in Washington. Ooh, that's interesting. There was some.
Speaker 3:That's an interesting one. I like to see that. Is he a geologist?
Speaker 2:he didn't say he did not say that. He didn't say what a? Uh, a jason from y'all, please let us know, stay safe. He says clearly um, if you're now, mount adams is Now. Mount Adams is kind of nestled as a smaller version, it's like near.
Speaker 3:Mount. Is it near Mount St Helena?
Speaker 2:It's like the three of them, it's like Adams, rainier and then Helens. So Adams is more towards Yakima and the Cascade Range, and then Mount Rainier is more towards uh, like towards us, towards the city, like more of the population, and then and then helen's hanford.
Speaker 3:When hanford blows up, it's going to be quite a thing I mean oh come on no, please do not.
Speaker 2:You know that is, that is a terrible, I mean having been there right, it's kind of creepy place I mean interesting prediction, uh, jason, uh, thank you for your, uh, your prediction.
Speaker 2:Thank you for hanging and listening to us. And yelm, uh, I'm not sure how much I feel about the uh, mount adams. I know that there was recently, um, in the last couple months, there had been more activity within the last couple weeks during that time period than the volcano would actually then what was actually has? That would happen in a normal year cycle, like the mountain would have like maybe one or two a year, but that it had quadrupled its seismic activity at that point in time. I haven't done any research so I don't know exactly what's going on with the activity of Mount Adams, but maybe there is a geologist that's listening or a volcanologist that would like to come on. Volcanologist, yeah, come, let us know. We'd love to hear from you if you're listening out there. Vancouver, vancouver, this is it. We'd love to hear from you if you're listening out there. Vancouver, vancouver, this is it. You know that was the Mount St Helens call from Johnson, from Coldwater 2.
Speaker 2:The footage of that is just incredible, I mean, and now the generated stuff that has changed, how they were able to take the footage and change it. If you go back and look on YouTube, it's scary. I will say that it is no joke. Every time to this day when you go to Mount St Helens and I don't know if the bridge is fixed yet, but it is eerie. It has been so long. But all the trees that have grown back, they don't look real. The trees look too uniform. It very much looks like you're like from the visual eye, it looks like lego land because the the, the trees, they don't look interesting it is.
Speaker 3:I like to go see that it is very interesting.
Speaker 2:And then when you go to Helen's at where Johnson was at, now Johnson Ridge at Coldwater too, is where they built this observatory. But where he actually was blown away was just a little bit, you know, on the mountain, but in a different area of where his viewpoint was, at Coldwater too, which is now called johnson ridge.
Speaker 3:Um well, you got a lot of weird stuff out there. I mean, mountaineer is the beginning of the flying saucer thing, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, come on, yes, you know, we got the, we got the ufos with uh and that's why I always call the pacific northwest the home of uh the most paranormal activity. I mean let's, let's be on the kenneth arnold uh prediction.
Speaker 3:You know, seeing the you ever been to Forks?
Speaker 2:I've been to Forks once or twice, but I'm you know.
Speaker 3:Forks seems like a pretty strange place it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know Twilight and that whole situation, yes, but the Olympic Mountains, they have a whole team out there. The Olympic project that is looking for bigfoot sasquatch, they have a. They have a museum in port angeles that that exists out there and we you know um port angeles is nice man and, um, we have a good, a good, a good, you know, partner to the show.
Speaker 2:Uh, tom seawood always comes on to talk about, you know, the sightings and the adventures and he's like mario, you got to get out here, you got to, you got to put, you got to put. Pound of the pavement, you got to start. You know, I don't, I don't have that time of resource. I got to do the show so I rely on guys like tom and you know, tobe, tobe johnson so, mario, just just not.
Speaker 3:I mean to interrupt, but I mean what? What are your predictions? What do you got?
Speaker 2:you know, I have three my top three predictions for 2025. Um, you know, I do love this mount saint, mount adams situation. That's kind of fun one to kind of watch and see what's going to happen with that oh, man, give me, give me, give me some of my own predictions. Look, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. The first part of the year, I think people are still going to be upset about the election. We're going to see a lot of people still really pissed. You're going to see.
Speaker 3:Any specifics.
Speaker 2:Just people like I feel like there is a portion of the population that feels like they're being suppressed and I think they're going to see an evolution and change in this administration that I believe we're going to see something good come out of this administration for everyone.
Speaker 3:Actually I agree with you about that.
Speaker 2:I think we're going to.
Speaker 3:It's not going to be. It's not going to be the doom and gloom. I don't think it's going to be the same four years all these poor liberal guys right, really kind of like you know, assume that it's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 2:But I think, you know, it's kind of like a put up or shut up moment for the people that are in power and and and I think it's time for if if the democratic party is going to believe a certain way, if they're going to continue to move and exist as a party, they need to figure out themselves. Look at their identity.
Speaker 3:I've got a prediction for you. I predict that the Democratic Party could disappear.
Speaker 2:I mean that is a very yeah, I'm with you on that one. I mean, if it was the Republican Party a very uh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I I'm with you on that one, I think. I mean, I feel the republican party, I think, I think that the next, not necessarily the next four years, but the next, say, seven or eight, ten years, maybe next to administration, is going to be a critical point for the two-party system in this country and because I think of the republican party could split, the democratic party could split, and that's happened before.
Speaker 3:You know, it's happened before and it's going to happen again and I think there's no reason to believe that things are going to stay the same my other prediction is is that, um, what's interesting?
Speaker 2:because what makes me think about this is, in this last election there are probably more younger conservatives that didn't, that people don't really think that are out there, and that are out there, moving in a different way now, um, that are, that are like light years ahead of of old school democrats, liberals that have come through the system and think they are. You know we got this by numbers, but they really don't and it really did show in an election where it's it's, it's. It was something that I was like. I was like, okay, this is interesting to me watching what yeah, no, I agree, I agree, I agree with you, and so you it's.
Speaker 2:it's just something.
Speaker 3:You know things are. I think change is it's, it's, it's, it's part of life everybody.
Speaker 2:And so, uh, that would be my first prediction. Uh, my second prediction is um, we're gonna see michael parker back on the radio show. That's my shout out.
Speaker 3:That's right, I hope, I hope that happens that would be nice to have there might be a wish right there sure mike seems to be pissed. I don't know. What are we gonna do come?
Speaker 2:on, mike, we love you.
Speaker 3:We're going to have to, Mike. Come on, man.
Speaker 2:Come on back, man, we miss you.
Speaker 3:We love you bro.
Speaker 2:My other prediction is I think we're going to see this. One goes back to college football. I think Congress is going to have to get involved. This is like the most interesting thing that we've ever seen, with all these bowl games that have transpired, that are about to happen, the championship just days away and kids going through this like free agency and asking for so much money. And I think congress needs to get involved and and set some guidelines so that, uh, that I'm not, I'm not against the kids making money. I, you know it is, it is what it is. These kids, these kids are making money, name, image and likeness.
Speaker 2:But to have two in, to have two time periods where you can jump into the portal to make the most amount of money, one being during the bowl season, which really changes the whole. You don't know if you're going to be able to play in the bowl, okay, well, I trans mario's going to, you know mario's going to notre dame now versus me staying at washington. You know university and we're playing for a championship or vice. Whatever the case may be, I'm gonna go play for another team. So, having that piece, having some more control and putting some guidelines to this free agency for college football to have a better representation for these younger athletes to, if it's a union or however that plays out for them, giving them rules and guidelines to follow, and you're going to see some of that come to fruition within the next year. That's my, that's. That's my outside of.
Speaker 3:That would be along the same line, I believe that Seattle will get their nba franchise.
Speaker 2:oh, my god, I mean let's, let's, yeah, yes, please. Uh, I mean I think about this my daughter is 16, will be 17 and they're still. She's never seen a sonics game ever.
Speaker 3:That's crazy to think that there's been any sonics, and when did they move move?
Speaker 2:right when she was born.
Speaker 3:When she was born 2008, they left well yeah, finally, finally we have, finally we have a good team here in the knicks man I mean, I've been a nick fan since, like I don't know, my whole life, right, you know, I'm 76 years old, so you know and finally they have a team that I can turn the TV on without like assuming the worst.
Speaker 2:Right, right, well, as we wrap things up from the Pacific Northwest, I think in my last prediction, let me give you this I don't think that we're going to see an RFK ban on Uncrustables. I know that people were talking about this that we're going to start seeing a ban on certain food items. I think that, um, this, this new administration is going to do some things, but I don't think they're going to ban things. I think they're going to make it better for for for humans to consume and and maybe that's a good thing for us to not be eating all these damn preservatives.
Speaker 3:And you know, I think yeah, rfk is going to turn out to be, and I think he's pretty much out of his mind sure he's going to turn out to be, and I think he's pretty much out of his mind, but he's going to turn out to be probably the most popular member of this kind of strange cabinet that Trump has come up with. Yeah, Because he's actually. He's the biggest wild card of all those people. He's the least doctrinaire.
Speaker 2:I mean he is, he's whacked For me. He's not my favorite, but you know, if he's talking about banning, you know, food items, I think let's let's take a step back and say he's trying to change, mold something different, and maybe that's what that's what we need, as a country, to say you know what big companies, big businesses, things of that nature, who have been controlling a lot of the narrative. You know why are people in the europeans? They eat pasta all the time. They're not, they're not overweight. You know what? What you?
Speaker 3:know because, yeah well, they have a different, they have a different, they move around a lot more. That's true, they don't have to. They're not totally like wedded to their cars because they don't have cars.
Speaker 2:Sure, you know, there's a lot of reasons for that, and maybe that my prediction is that we're going to see something we're going to see disruptive. We're going to see something from a, a very wildcard, individual change what has been the norm for the last 20 to 30 years in regards to the, to what the food industry looks like and good, bad. That's going to be, that's going to be to what the food industry looks like and good, bad and different.
Speaker 3:That's going to be interesting to see if people go with that, yeah. Because, I think that first of all, you've got these two competing narratives. Everybody wants to lose weight.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 3:So you still want to eat potato chips?
Speaker 2:I mean look.
Speaker 3:I think the fact that he's there is going to engender more talk, and that can't be bad.
Speaker 2:'t be bad no, I mean, it will be interesting to see how this goes. You continue to send your, uh, your predictions. Let us know you can send us a text 775-990-5151. We'll put up a what? Uh? We'll put up a blog post, um, where you can leave your comments and things of that nature, and we'll put those, these ones, up there as well. As we wrap things up from the Pacific Northwest, I'd like to thank our guests Again. Mark, thank you so much for coming to hang out with us.
Speaker 3:It's always a pleasure. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is year four. I remember the first time I had you on the show. You're like what? Is this show called again.
Speaker 3:I swear to you I know, I'm just some guy from brooklyn, no man but what was cool was I.
Speaker 2:It was like the best uh promo piece, um and um. I will say this there is the the. We won't say there are versions of this show that are out there, right, and recently it was. It's very fun to have guests like yourself on who may cross pollinate with the other show, and I had a guest on talk about ufos, uaps, um on the show um, keith thompson. Keith thompson was on uh, uh, from one coast to the next coast and I was like I sent him a text, I sent him an email, said it was nice to one coast to the next coast and I was like I sent him an email. I said it was nice to hear you on the radio the other night. And he sent me a text back and he goes. Oh my God, I was on for four hours. You know he did the entire show.
Speaker 2:And I told him I said I'll remember that next time. So we'll keep him on much longer, but we wished him a happy holidays, make him work a happy holidays.
Speaker 2:Make them work. Make them work. But it was good. It's good to hear that we're staying relevant to what people are looking for and again we look for a prosperous 2025 again, uh, as we wrap things up for the year 2024, uh, I thank you for coming to hang out all of our guests. Uh, thank you for those who were a part of our text, sending in their predictions. We will read your predictions back next year. I promise you that. For all our affiliates, kosw, thank you again for the added bonus show. They are doing a New Year's Eve show. Go to their website at KOSWcom to go check out their link to their New Year's Eve show that is coming up, if you haven't.
Speaker 2:We will be on two hours at Ocean Shores and get ready for a new format on us phenomenon where we will be having two guests per show. Now to, uh, kind of change things up so you'll be able to hear the entire interview with our guests either guest, but they will be in long form content that you can listen to and download. For our affiliate and KAPY, we thank you so much. Our flagship station, kvi, thank you again for everything that you've done for us and all the listeners that have listened to the podcast and downloaded. Thank you for subscribing. So we thank you. We hope you have a great new year. Don't blow your fingers up and don't do anything crazy.
Speaker 2:You know some people like to do fireworks, so it's not legal here in Seattle, up and don't do anything crazy. You know some people like to do fireworks, so it's not legal here in Seattle. So if you do be safe out there from the Pacific Northwest. I'd like to thank all of our guests for my entire team, mark Christopher, sophia Magana and myself. Mario Magana, be sure to look up at the sky, because you never know what you might see. Goodnight to look up at the sky, because you never know what you might see. Good night.
