U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Welcome to "U.S. Phenomenon" with Mario Magaña, a riveting podcast that dives deep into the unexplained and the extraordinary. Join Mario, the host as he explores the most intriguing paranormal events, alien encounters, and mysterious sightings across the United States. With his unique blend of real-life experience and passion for the unexplained, Mario brings you thrilling stories and expert insights in every episode. Whether it's alien abductions, ghostly apparitions, or cryptozoological creatures, Mario's engaging storytelling will captivate and keep you on the edge of your seat. Tune in to "U.S. Phenomenon" and embark on a journey into the unknown that will have you questioning everything you thought you knew.
U.S. Phenomenon with Mario Magaña
Beyond Headlines: Conspiracy, Conflict, and Control
Mario Magana and guest Michael Parker dive into conspiracy theories and global tensions, examining what lies beneath mainstream headlines.
• Comparing the legal cases of P. Diddy and Jeffrey Epstein, with Diddy likely facing serious consequences while Epstein's wider network remains protected
• Analysis of why Diddy might be the "fall guy" while more powerful figures connected to Epstein escaped justice completely
• Discussion about the mysterious circumstances of Epstein's death and the disappointing statements from Kash Patel and Dan Bongino
• Examination of the recent US strike on Iranian nuclear facilities and whether it achieved its intended results
• Analysis of how modern warfare has evolved beyond traditional conflicts into cyber attacks, economic warfare, and the fentanyl crisis
• Conversation about how World War III might already be happening through non-conventional means
• Questions about the future of Ghislaine Maxwell's case and whether the public will ever get full disclosure
• Reflections on the changing nature of media consumption and how social media has replaced traditional news sources
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Speaker 2:From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the 1962 world's fair, the space needle. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you are on god's green earth, if you believe in that sort of thing. Uh, I am your host, mario magana. This is us phenomenon. Tonight we're gonna go to where us phenomenon likes to go in the conspiracy realms. And tonight, no stranger to this show, he has his own show you can find on Michael Parker Media. You can find it on YouTube or on any one of your favorite podcasting platforms. It is my pleasure to welcome back a longtime contributor to US Phenomenon, michael Parker. Welcome back to the show, sir. Thank you for having me, mario Howdy, it's always fun. Now for those who may not know you, you have your own show that you talk about and typically you guys are doing more of the. You kind of do more of the. Why am I spacing on the terminology of your show?
Speaker 3:Well, I do a lot of different things and I've worked for different companies doing different types of shows. So I've done everything from kind of Art Bell type paranormal stuff. I've also done conspiracy stuff. I've done straight current events it depends on the show. But what I like to do and what I currently do is a little bit of all of it and um, and I think that's what a lot of the people that we admire these days kind of do. So, you know, I I I'm dropping a show tomorrow that has to do with, um, the possibility of there being invertebrate animals in the atmosphere. So it goes sometimes from super crazy, weird stuff to pop culture. But you know what, anything that just kind of blows my mind and makes me want to talk about it is open to discussion.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that and you've not been a, you've been a longtime contributor to the show. It's interesting because some of the things that I'd like to talk about tonight I think it's a plethora of stuff. You know, the Diddy trial is getting close to being coming close to the end here and I kind of want to talk to you about your thoughts on the Diddy trial versus the Epstein stuff.
Speaker 2:When we look at this situation, I mean this trial, this is really hammered through right. They've really gone through, they've buckled down. I mean, they have their ducks in a row with this case. Do you believe that this is different from the Epstein case, where maybe there were some mistakes made in that case, versus this one where they're like that one's still kind of pending, hasn't gone anywhere, feelings on this whole trial versus are we looking at just that? You know that they were able to fine tune and say you know what, let's, let's go after this, cause it's, these are this could be kind of similar, um in in. You know, the two cases themselves could be very much, very similar in a lot of uh, in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3:Yes, so I a couple of thoughts on that. So many people from the get-go kind of pointed out the fact that this Diddy was the Hollywood Epstein and that may be a little bit of hyperbole but there are certainly similarities and they both were running these parties which seemed to be blackmail kind of parties where a lot of illicit drugs and sex were happening. Now the difference is Diddy, he's going down.
Speaker 3:I mean, diddy is going down and he's a Hollywood guy where Epstein was almost a transnational intelligence asset in my opinion and I think there's a lot of people that wouldn't disagree with that, in my opinion, and I think there's a lot of people that wouldn't agree, wouldn't disagree with that. So there's things that are going to be done to Diddy that were not being done to Epstein. And look, just recently, a couple you know what was just a couple of weeks ago, kash Patel and Dan Bocino come out and say that you know they've seen files that we are all not privy to, and you know that we are all not privy to, and you know Epstein did in fact, kill himself. Look, I don't believe that. I absolutely do not believe that, and I'm disappointed that they had to say that. You know what, maybe they're right and I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you think about it, michael. Let's go back to that piece where you and I talked about this in a previous show.
Speaker 2:We're like man oh did we okay, oh, I mean this was years ago, but it's wild to say that that that's the case, that that was a few years ago maybe, oh, maybe three or four. Yeah, but, michael, you had said we have both had talked about this, like no way, how do all of a sudden cameras go out, like obviously this, this prison or this jail is no longer around, it's, it's been shut down. But how convenient was it that there was no there, there was no cameras, no, no surveillance available during his incident of, you know, of exterminating himself?
Speaker 3:Precisely so, and when I I misunderstood you, I thought you meant that we had discussed the Kash Patel, but you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, not that piece no.
Speaker 3:Okay, so here's the deal. You're exactly right, and we did talk about this, because how many things have to go wrong for his suicide to go right, right, yeah, I mean, and you know, they are completely not even talking about the ligature marks that were found on his neck by forensic scientists. All that aside, many of us believe that Epstein was killed, and he was most likely killed because of the connections that he had of people who never wanted to be found out for the things that they had done. Now, with Diddy, we've got a different set of circumstances. We've got stuff mostly dealing with celebrities. Only, I'm sure that there were politicians at some of these parties, but not to the level that we're talking about being involved with the Epstein situation, that we're talking about being involved with the Epstein situation. So, diddy, in some ways and I do think he's guilty of most of the things that he's being charged of I have not followed the trial, probably as closely as you have, even though I live here in Los Angeles, because it was an open secret that this kind of stuff was going on for a long time, just like with Harvey Weinstein and many other things After a while, you're just like yeah, I, I know that's happening and anybody who's halfway paying attention knows this is happening.
Speaker 3:So diddy, in my prediction, goes down hard, and part of that is to make some of us feel like or kind of take our mind off the fact that epstein didn't go down hard. Epstein got out the easy way. He either committed suicide, someone killed him or they took him away and he's in witness protection somewhere, but regardless he didn't end up doing a long time in jail. So one of those things happened with Epstein. Diddy, I think, goes down hard.
Speaker 2:It'll be interesting to see who else, if anyone else, they go after within Diddy's circle after all of this a large underground type situation, yes, and very much, very much, very tied into the same type of things that are alleged in Diddy's case. It's this. It to me it feels like for someone like you and I, who have been covering and chatting about this, and even at the beginning, when you talk about uss phenomenon talking about hey, why aren't it, why isn't anyone talking about bill gates back then you and I were talking about this. We had said what about bill? No one's talking about.
Speaker 2:you know, mr, mr northwest guy, mr microsoft and I'm not like talking crap about this individual, but you're talking about someone who was tied to him as well, and I think yes, he and I mean.
Speaker 3:It's pretty much a matter of record. I think that that's part of why his wife says that she divorced him was the relationship. Now, personally, I think there's probably a lot more than that, but she was saying that part of the reason she divorced Bill was his relationship with Epstein.
Speaker 2:And with, as you were just saying just a few minutes ago, about who else may be tied to Diddy, is it like… Lots of people, I mean? Yeah, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 3:Big stars, big big stars, yeah, I mean, think about it. Big stars, big, big stars. But but, mario, the only thing about that is, even though a lot of these big stars who, if you read any gossip columns, ladies and gentlemen, you can find out who I'm talking about but the question is, will any of them go down? And the reason I say that is because right now, the main boogeyman, the main bad guy, is being portrayed as Diddy. All the rest of the people that went along with this, do they matter in the court of public opinion? Do they matter to the lawmakers and law enforcers who want to make a case or make a story with this Diddy thing? I don't know if they will, because some of these people I mean clearly, diddy was not the only person involved with this who was up to no good.
Speaker 3:I mean and unfortunately I have a picture with Diddy- Well, hey, man, a lot of people do, and you know what, mario? I'm glad you brought that up because a lot of people make a big stink about okay. Well, here's Trump pictured with Epstein. Maybe here's Mario with P Diddy.
Speaker 3:But that actually doesn't mean anything, because famous people get their pictures made with a lot of people and you and I, one day, who knows, we might get invited to some party and we might intend it, we might attend it because we believe that it's good for our career, or you know, we're, we're there just to shake some hands and get the hell out, and in the meantime, somebody takes a picture with us of someone who then goes and commits a crime. Does that mean that we had any relationship? You know, and I know that I'm saying the obvious, but, um, that's just something, because a lot of people take the really lazy way out on that. Oh well, so and so was pictured with so and so, and that means there's a connection?
Speaker 2:no, it doesn't it's interesting because when we go back to the epstein files case I shouldn't say files, but that case itself there I don't know that this country is ready to like there there might be some really high-powered individuals other than the ones that we may have kind of known about, um, but again it doesn't mean that they were partaking in like you said, or maybe they were. We just don't know.
Speaker 3:You know, and we may never know either too there were very, very powerful people involved in all this, and I would point to the work of whitney webb. I mean, she's for years been doing some of the best work out there on this case and I'm nowhere in comparison to the work that she's done. I I think that we are. I think there's a lot of things that the American public and the global public could actually handle that's being held back from us. I mean, we're all adults. I mean just go on social media. If you want to find something really horrible, it's there. And even if you don't want to find it, you'll come across it. So you know, most of us have seen or heard just about everything at this point I mean, there's so much out there, like you said yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think that you know a lot of times they use that as an excuse, thinking that we can't handle it, when in fact we could um, real quick.
Speaker 2:It looks like I'm getting a couple text messages in here. Let me uh scroll to those real quick. There's a bunch of them, a bunch of old stuff in here. But I'm looking at a couple text messages of um people sending text messages in. Uh, this one comes from yelm, says hey, mario, listening in from Yale.
Speaker 2:Big thanks to Michael Parker for tackling the tough topics tonight. Honestly, I didn't think most folks are ready for what could be out there if the Epstein case actually moves forward. We're talking about names, networks, the truth that could shake the foundations of the political and culture and even personal, of the political and culture and even personal. So people, she said, or they say some people won't be able to handle that level of reality. But it's overdue. Keep the pressure on. We're out here listening, we got your back. Oh, that's nice. Thanks for hanging out and yelling and listening. You know it's interesting because I think for you and I, I think, being outsiders of that case itself, it would be kind of nice to not turn this into a jfk conspiracy in regards to like what if, what if, what, if, what, if you know it already, is though I mean sure yeah but?
Speaker 2:but we're not that, we're not. We're not talking about 50-plus years of history where they could go through these files. They could have a trial and they can say, hey, look, this is what it is Agreed. And they can still pin it to Ghislaine and say, look, you were one of the masterminds behind this case.
Speaker 3:Okay and say, look, you were one of the masterminds behind this case. Okay, so I think there's a lot going on here and the Epstein thing has been a big disappointment for a lot of people, because a lot of people thought that Trump would come in and sort this out and it doesn't seem like that is happening and it doesn't seem like Kash Patel and Bongino are doing that. But maybe there's things that we don't know. I kind of doubt that. But the main thing that I would say is that I don't want to put this under the rug or anything, but we also have a lot of other things, and I know that there's a lot of people that Epstein was like a really big thing to them to get figured out and I am not trying to gloss over any atrocities that happened. But there's also a whole other set of things that we have on our plate right now.
Speaker 3:I don't know if anything will ever be sorted out on the Epstein situation. I think that's part of the reason Diddy's going to go down so hard is so that we're all kind of placated into this thought that, oh see, justice is being served for this kind of thing. But there's a lot that we need to work on right now, even besides Epstein Sure, and I think that most people realize there's a lot of horrible people in government, there's a lot of horrible people in Hollywood, there's a lot of people in uh, even in churches. So I think that most realistic people know that a lot of people are faulty and each one of us is, you know, let he or faulty, meaning you know, we, we all have our issues right. So I don't think that, um, I don't think that anybody's going to be surprised if it does ever come come out that so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so all did these sorted things. I think that that's already baked into the story.
Speaker 2:I mean, I just want to know, because you know I want to, I want to a lot of people do.
Speaker 2:And I think that even coming back, we were like see, we told you guys, you know, I want that. I want that we have another text message coming in from Edgewood, washington. Hey, Mario, longtime listener from Edgewood. I want to thank you for having Michael Parker on the show again. His insight is very sharp, unfiltered and exactly what we need to hear in the media these days. As for Epstein's case, it deserves a real closure. Too many names, too many unanswered questions. Keep up the great work. Thank you both. Yeah, that's nice. Thanks for texting in. If you want to send your text messages, you can always send them in at 775-990-5151.
Speaker 2:Um. One last thing about this, before we move forward with the um where we go next, michael? Um, you know, I think that you and I have really covered this from from, from the beginning, all the way till to now, to present time. Um, I don't think anything's really changed for us in regards to where we nothing like. I'm not blown away by any of the news that's been put out there, but also I haven't.
Speaker 2:There hasn't been any fresh information, and I think you just said a few minutes ago that this baby right now, this, this golden goose, is what we'll call this, the, the diddy, the, the baby oil of, and I'm making all these terms because that's all that they ever, you know, talk about. In that case, the horrific things that happened in Diddy's, that has been alleged in Diddy's trial, is crazy. There are people that have been following this case and the transcripts and things of that nature Not something that I have the time or efforts or willing to do, because I don't need to know what someone's you know degenerate, you know habits are um, I just need someone to protect those that are out there to come to a conclusion, say, yes, this is not a good person, these things happened, okay, boom, he's done.
Speaker 3:You know I listen, I ain't judging. I mean I know that there are some people who get really fascinated by these trials. I mean hollywood, you know, every once in a while we've got to have a big trial, whether it be oj, whether it be johnny dip amber heard whether it be diddy, and even though you and I are not super obsessed with these trials, a lot of people are, and in a way, it's another form of escapism because they can listen to this and think well, you know what? I was feeling pretty bad about myself, but when I look at these guys, I'm not so bad and it is interesting, and so in some ways it's like the ultimate reality show, right for sure.
Speaker 2:And so I I understand the entertainment, and that's a weird thing to say, I know, I mean I understand I understand the entertainment aspect of these high-profile trials I mean it goes all the way back to the oj trial. I mean that was like for sure, you know. I mean they wall-to-wall coverage and like they broke into the world series to give the verdict which I you know, I was living in la when that was happening.
Speaker 3:I mean it was, it was huge. I like I, I, the, I, the day that he went on the, uh, that, the, the, the truck chase with the, you know, in the suv, with his buddy Al Kiling or whoever it was, I remember that day like it was a huge day in American history. I remember where I was at, I remember watching it with my buddies. We were all kind of laughing but yeah, it has a fascination for people that we can't really explain.
Speaker 2:And it's interesting when you go back and you look at the trial of that case very much you're talking about the 90s, you're talking about Reginald Denny, you're talking about the whole riots in LA and it felt like….
Speaker 3:And the first famous Kardashian.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, robert Kardashian was part of oj's legal team and and like, if you watch some of those documentaries, you see him with the briefcase, oj's uh bag and things of that nature. Yeah, uh, it's just it. I mean it is very much a must, it was a must watch situation me was be very, very young, um, not having an idea.
Speaker 2:But looking at the information, I mean I wasn't dumb, I sure was like, well, I, I mean it's his blood, I mean you know. But again, when you look at the evidence and dna and things of that nature, were things miss mishandled? Probably that's another, another show for another day. But, um, I think for us, for me, and like you were saying, the distractions out there and there's so much going on right now in the world, speculation, world war three possible, uh, and we'll get into that here in just a little bit to have that distraction. People are looking for that and I, and, and we got to remember this, and I know that if you've never read the book Behold the Pale Horse, this book would be very adamant, very. It's crazy. This book is so old but it is so much relevant in today's day.
Speaker 2:People may not know who william cooper is, but I tell you right now I'm sure he is rolling in his grave right now, in regards to the misinformation and how people are being led as sheep and not being lions. And I say this because, michael parker, I'm telling you there is sometimes when I'm like going through and scrolling through social media and I see the most outlandish, hideous misinformation that is out there. That is wild to me. I can't, I can't pin. I can pinpoint one off the top of my head where they're telling people that you're not going to be able to get back into the country. You have old, senior citizens like my dad, who are out there believing in the deep state and I'm like how do you even know about the deep? Well, I believe in the deep state for a 72 year old, old hippie. All of a sudden now knowing about the deep state, I'm like wait, how do you know about the deep state, dad? Which is just interesting to me.
Speaker 2:And before let me just finish this on this piece people who are in that older demographic, people believing that social media is the new news presence, please remember, not every piece of news is accurate. Be sure to do your research, do your homework. That's all I ask of you, and I know that most of the people who are watching or listening on our radio stations across the pacific northwest are educated enough to understand that. But I tell you I I I had to do a double take and ask my dad. I was like wait, should you be hosting my show? Because how do you know the? This is, this is a, a gen. You know, someone who came to the united states has no idea, but he's now being educated. Somehow he's learning about like I. I didn't think that he would be at that level of like knowledge of how, how he's getting fed about learning about the deep state, because I know it's not something that he's searching for well, okay, I got a couple thoughts there.
Speaker 3:So, the deep state listen, if he's an, if he's an ex-hippie, you know, if he was from back in the hippie days, I mean I think they were aware of the deep state. Then they, we just didn't call it the deep state. I mean, who killed jfk and, uh, you know who wanted us to have a vietnam war? I mean, who were the guys behind Watergate? And so these types of things kind of always existed and the left used to be very much against the establishment right, and I would argue that these days, the left, at least, especially for the last eight years, was the establishment, including the media. Which brings me to your second point, which is about social media.
Speaker 3:Yes, there is a lot of misinformation out there, but at this point in time and I read a lot of it and I've been doing this a long time and I, when I see misinformation, unless I'm just completely blown away with how extreme it is, I usually just roll past it. Sure, and what I would say is, these days, with things like X, they have supplanted mainstream media, and the reason that happened is because people no longer believe mainstream media. This thing that's happening right now with this low confidence report about the bombing in Iran. I mean, look, I don't know what the truth is, but basically someone leaked a report of low confidence to the public, basically saying that you know that attack did not go as well as the president and Heg Suther saying it does and Hegseth are saying goes.
Speaker 3:My point is that a lot of people no longer believe that the mainstream media really has any weight or validity left to it. They believe it's just your propaganda of choice. Okay, are you a CNN person? Are you a Fox person? Are you an MSNBC person? And they feel like they could go to social media, like X especially, or one of the others, but I think mostly X, and they will find their political influencer of choice and they prefer to hear that information from them than from the mainstream media.
Speaker 2:For one, I would never call MSNBC, cnn or Fox News or Fox News. I find those are to me, being an old school radio guy TV person, those are entertainment TV to me. Maybe back in the day they were more towards covering stories, but they still I would agree with you, they are very much opinion driven versus, say, like ABC, cbs, hey by the way bc nice.
Speaker 3:However, I think the same thing applies there, if not even more.
Speaker 2:It's almost state-run media at this point yeah, it's crazy because when you say that, when you say state-run media, that would mean that the administration would be running the media, then right.
Speaker 3:Except that the media is largely controlled by the left and so, essentially under Obama and Biden, yeah, it was pretty much okay. Here's your story. Stamp it, you know, and it's out Now. Listen, I'm biased, but I got to call it the way I see it and I think most people see it. The way that I see it Depends on your political inclinations. But getting back to your first point, what the way that I see it? It depends on your political inclinations. But getting back to your first point, what I'm trying to say is who buys a newspaper anymore? Not me. Who buys magazines anymore? Old people, who really watches NBC, abc, nightly news? Mostly people of the older generation. Cnn only exists because it plays in every airport. I mean, nobody actually watches it. So people get their news off of their phone, Sure, and they're watching their favorite influencers to get the news.
Speaker 2:It's interesting when you talked about that piece in regards to possibly these as we continue to talk about, as we continue to talk about, I think we transition now into the conflict that the United States has entered in, or I would say, had prepared a military strike against certain nuclear sites, and not against the country in Iran, not against the country, but to these nuclear sites. And there were reports that I did see that said they didn't they hit the targets, but the targets. If there was nuclear substance there, there, there would have been a there, there would have been a huge fallout when there. I mean that, that I mean I don't I'm not a nuclear scientist, but you would think that there would be some type of backlash. Or did they move? You know, like I guess this is the part of conspiracy you got to ask hey, we're going to bomb you if you don't do your stuff. And then Iran's like oh, they're going to bomb us, let's move. You know, let's move all the nuke stuff, all the you know we need to move all of our supplies somewhere else. Yeah, all the you know, let's, we need to move all of our our supplies somewhere else. Yeah, they bombed them, but they didn't get that piece, they, they were able to hit the target.
Speaker 2:It's then like then what was said was oh, iran's like, oh, we're gonna get the, we're gonna get the military bases. We're like, oh crap, let's move all the planes. And then they moved the planes. You're right, the speculation is going to be out there both sides of the fence. But at the end of the day, regardless of what side of the fence you're on, we're still all United States. Well, most of us are from this country and we're all one country together. It shouldn't be divided, you know, think about that. Yeah, I mean you and I both.
Speaker 3:I agree with you me say okay. So there's a couple of things going on here. So when you texted me, I was actually at a concert that night. I I thought that trump would do something. I did not think that he was going to do it this weekend. So that caught me by surprise. And, and you know, I was talking to friends in the Middle East in the days afterwards and on the morning that the Iranians Iran hit the site in Qatar, which basically was almost like an arranged retaliatory attack so that they could save face. And this is where all this gets really weird. Now I have seen a satellite photo supposedly a photo, whichever that main site was where there were what looked like trucks on the road outside the thing. So you ask yourself okay, well, if they were moving stuff, how much stuff could they move and how fast could they move it? But at the end of the day, does that actually even matter? I mean, because I have not a lot of doubt that the damage done to those sites was pretty severe.
Speaker 2:If they were able to move any of the nuclear material they still have to enrich it.
Speaker 3:They have to do the final enrichment somewhere else. And what I'm trying to say is that, you know, I'm not a war guy, but I'm also not a pacifist, and sometimes you have to do things that you don't want to do. So I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have done the strike. I didn't really think that was going to happen right then, but it did. But now this whole argument about this leaked document did the strike do what the administration is saying it did, or not?
Speaker 3:I kind of wish that the administration was not going so hard on this, because the harder they go on it makes you think well, maybe it didn't go that well, you know, but I don't know one way or the other, I have no way to know. However, what I do know is when you send that many planes and you send that many bunker busting bombs and the idea had been germinating they'd been working on this plan for 15 years it was just now they finally, and apparently the bomb that we created to do this was created with that exact destination intended. So I think that we did do a lot of damage. Can Iran still go on and continue their nuclear program? I don't really know, but what I do know it will take a while and it will take a lot of money. And I don't know if the people of Iran are up to doing that all over again, because that is a country of 90 million people and you know, man, I'm surprised they're not fed up with it.
Speaker 2:And if you know, man, I'm surprised they're not fed up with it. It's interesting because when that strike hit and I texted you, I was like the first thing that came to my mind was what are the retaliatorial? You know what is going to be the retaliation of this? And, let's be honest, if we went for nuke sites where they were going to, you know, wouldn't that give them the same, the same? I thought maybe retaliatorial point to say, okay, we're going to hit military bases. Maybe it's West Coast stuff, maybe it's they can't.
Speaker 3:Because I don't think they have any ballistic missiles at all, and I think that's part of the issue. So and in the run up to this I didn't mean to cut you off, but this is I think they're very limited in what they can do because they've already gone through a lot of their weapons and the Israelis did a pretty deep job on Iran, so they're very limited in what they can respond with.
Speaker 2:Is it interesting that in recent days in social media, that that bb, you know benjamin net now, yeah, who has all these clips of him talking about, you know iran and how, like this, this, this was like almost a 30-year build-up to get to where I felt to me like.
Speaker 3:I feel like the united states got punked into doing something well, a lot of people feel that way, you know, mario, so and and I'm not saying that bb's a bad person, I'm just saying like, why are we doing his heavy lifting?
Speaker 2:like I, I don't want to say this. I don't want to be hit. I don't want the United States to be his bitch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:You know like a lot of people feel the same way you do.
Speaker 2:I have mixed emotions about this as well, and you know I didn't want us necessarily involved, um, but now it's out of you and I's hands and it's been done, um so I mean, we're still here to talk about it, so you're right, unless someone else decides to get involved and do the heavy lifting and give them, you know, some type of power, because obviously they clearly don't have the muscle to, you know, to get a missile all the way over here. They would have to get it from Russia or China.
Speaker 3:And that hasn't happened. I mean, mean, that is actually a very important point. So the allies, supposedly allies of iran did not step up for them, and I think that it's because you got to weigh out your you know what's my risk reward kind of thing here. I mean, do I, do I really want to go to bat for iran in this type of a situation? I mean, russia's got its hands full right now, china has got its own set of issues and I don't think that I don't think they they want to get involved in this. It's, you know, it's it's not a high enough priority for them. If it was, they would have got involved in it already and they didn't.
Speaker 2:It's interesting that you say that and it seems to be that everything has quieted down some levels, but I think even then, trump getting upset and I don't even know if this is true got upset at the peace treaty that was made and then they continued to fight each other I think he was honestly pretty irked about that, yeah because he had said he's like you know, and that's it's.
Speaker 2:It's good to see I I'm happy that the president was pissed. I was was like, okay, cool, it's not like he's being a punk and being punk.
Speaker 3:I felt the same way.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I'm like, okay, good, he's got a spine. I'm not saying that he doesn't as a president, but it was good to see. Like, look, at this point in time, we all got to back him. However, that is, he's making these calls. He's doing what he thinks is in the best interest of the country, and if that's what is in the best interest of the country, we will find out in history. We will find out later, when the book has been written, we will know. But, like you said, it was nice to see him be pissed and vocalize it and to say hey, say hey, look, I'm not happy about what's going on. I, you know, I told these two and for him he's probably like these two kids he's, you know they're like stepbrother, you know they're like two kids fighting in the in the store and they're like well, he's like you're both in a timeout well, I honestly believe and this is why I've supported Trump through three elections my number one cause is I'm an anti-war guy.
Speaker 3:That does not mean that I'm a pacifist and you just roll over. But I am not into foreign entanglements unless you got a really damn good reason, and I think that's the way Trump's. I think that's where Trump's coming from and that was the primary reason I well, that was one of the primary reasons that I supported him. So I don't think that he wants to be a war president. I don't think he digs this. I think he wants to help everybody make money, which is the way that I feel, and I think that that's what my friends in the Middle East they think of Trump. They think that trump's the kind of guy he's actually trying to make deals. So this was not something I think that he wanted to do. I don't think that he wants to continue um doing any kind of military action if he doesn't have to.
Speaker 2:he would rather make deals and history will tell us in the future what, what, what will happen and, um, man, it will be nice when this, when we can all sleep peacefully because, I'll be honest with you, after all that stuff, I was like, I was like man, this, this to me felt very. This took me back to the 1980s, like the cold. It was ominous, it was ominous it was very much and I was like, oh, heavy, very heavy maybe reflect.
Speaker 2:I was like I haven't had these feelings since, like the 80s, you know, like are we gonna die? Type situation. And and the only reason why I say that? Because at that point in time, as this news was very fresh and now I'm, I'm I'm not on my laurels about what's going to happen, but in regards to, okay, we got bases out here, we got, you got would be island. You have the naval, would you know would be island. You have bremerton. You know they have the naval base in bremerton, banger. Then you got, uh, lewis mccord um down the, you know Air Force and Army down in Tacoma.
Speaker 2:So those are some hot sites that can, you know, just be taken out. And you know you're going to take out some population. You know you're going to do some damage. There would be some tremendous loss of life. And then if they decided that it wasn't enough, I mean they'd go after Boeing, you know, and Boeing's right here in Tukwila, you would do some damage. You would destroy the, the runway, the plants that are still here, I mean, and they're in that area, they're still doing, you know, a lot of defense, a lot of space and defense developmental stuff there in Tukwila. So, and that's just you know someone who has the insight, who worked in that building, you know, has that kind of knowledge. But now that we fast forward to where we're at today not so much because you're like, okay, they don't even have enough you know muscle to. You know to do much of anything. Maybe they can throw some bombs. You know locally to other US, you know installations. But that was my biggest fear during that time.
Speaker 3:Right. Right, and I think a lot of people felt the same way. My daughter is in San Diego and of course, there's, you know, installations down there, so she was concerned. The deal is now, you know, there's this possibility of sleeper cells. I can't say that they don't exist. However, you know, everybody knows what's up right now, so hopefully everyone is on as high alert as you're going to have, right, I mean, I'm hoping that all installations, all industries, are on their best behavior and, you know, doing their highest level of security, and I actually think they are, because this is a real thing. And, that said, I definitely feel better this week than I did last week, and I don't know what ends up happening, but I am hopeful that this chapter is closed, at least for a while, and I hope that we can move forward and have a safe 4th of July.
Speaker 2:When we talk about this and I think I was going to joke about this is it the end of the world as we know it? As most of us who grew up in the cold war era, maybe there are a lot of people that grew up in a post 9 11 era. If this continues, it's not going to look like a cold war era. Missiles, things of that nature we're going to talk about. We're talking like cyber attacks, uh infrastructures being attacked in regards to electrical, you know, things that would pause a lot of things in the united states that could cripple the country. We're not talking about bombs. We're talking about if they can hack into certain things and make things change. That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3:I think that's right. I think that's right. I think that you know, is this world war three? Was this have we been in world war three in the fall of 2021? I believe I was doing, I was on someone's show and I said at that point I thought that we were already in a form of world war three, but it's not the type of world war that people think about. I think that in the 21st century, governments are much more sophisticated.
Speaker 3:So the idea that you would have a widespread nuclear war, that's not really good for anyone. Sure, and as crass as this might sound like, look okay. So what if you annihilate some country with nuclear weapons? Well then, nobody can do anything with it because it's radioactive, not to mention all of the other people who start firing. So you can't really do that realistically. You don't want to soil the country so much that it's unusable.
Speaker 3:What you could have is a lot of battles in third world countries, um skirmishes, proxy wars, and I know that people have stated that. But I think to your point what a lot of World War III war would actually look like. Would be like fentanyl, would be like COVID, would be like cyber hacking. It would be economic espionage. It would be, I think, of the old song Murder by Numbers by the police and in the song Sting talks about. You know, you don't really want to shoot anybody or do anything because it causes an awful lot of mess. What you want to do is use more finesse, which is, I think World War III on a big level would be orchestrated with more finesse. It just doesn't look like a war movie from the past. It would, because now especially, look, war is not green, right? I mean, it's like you want, you want to get bit out of shape about the environment. Well, war would would do that.
Speaker 2:So I think, uh, world war three is going to look a lot different and, and the other thing too, I think a lot of people don't, and hopefully we never have to see anything of the nature of anyone using any type of muscle or strength of a nuclear weapon. Um, because, let's be honest, if you're, unless we're ready to not exist on a planet, I mean that's essentially what would happen. You, you start and it's just it's going to be the fallout of one would, like you said, will continue to roll downhill. Um, and and I and I think that I think you're right, I mean, I think you're spot on in regards to you're going to start seeing different ways to continue to change the narrative in regards to how a war may look and feel on paper, or how it looks, you know, if it's a commerce situation. If it's, you know, a COVID situation, if it's a fentanyl situation. I mean, we've been dealing with this fentanyl situation for a while and it is it's killed.
Speaker 3:I don't even know how many people. I've heard statistics that point at the fact that fentanyl and, ladies and gentlemen, if I'm wrong, someone correct me, but I think I've heard a few people say that fentanyl has killed more Americans than our wars combined. You know, that may be be overstatement but it's killed a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I mean since, uh, since 2023 alone, the response of of 72 000 deaths since 2023 alone yeah, since 2023. I mean the. It's crazy because think about this, michael.
Speaker 2:I mean I've never been a huge drug person, but those who may have partaked in, you know, acid back in those days in my, you know, the late 90s um, that's not something that they were worried about, you know no um no, this is a major concern and it's it's so devastating when you look at different cities and where this is playing out, at, um, I mean, I, I mean one could say that this is, uh, a way of population control too. You know too, um, for those who are of a lower class, who don't have money to get services, to go to a hospital to get clean, or they get put in a cycle of Forgive me, for those who may have had a drug issue or addiction in the past Right, it is tough to break these habits without assistance.
Speaker 3:Well, and the deal with fentanyl is that you may not even be a drug person. Sure, you might take one thing one time and that's it. And so the fentanyl thing is a very sophisticated weapon to use against a country, because it's not just the amount of people that it kills, but there's also the trade itself, which then creates money and creates a black market. So it's actually a really sophisticated kind of weapon, and I only point to that as one of different types of things that you could do. Now, of course, I could be wrong about all this. Back to the nuclear weapons thing in Iran. Would Iran be crazy enough to use a nuclear weapon if they had it? Maybe I don't know if they would or not, because it's kind of mutually assured destruction. So you would have to be really hell-bent or intoxicated by your religion to want to do something like that. But um, I think there's other ways to go about war these days, and they're more, they're more sophisticated well, I mean, when we talk about this, it does.
Speaker 2:It does put chills on my back and make the head stand up on on the back of my neck and, uh, by, by any means necessary. I just want to make sure that if, if, when we look at these things and people are out here talking about these things not everyone's good to agree like and and that and that's we. We always know that, but but I think we all know that that is just someone of their stature should not have a nuclear weapon. Now, how it's played out to today's day, the United States did what they thought was necessary and we will now see, we will now judge how that looks moving forward, and you know what this could be. This could be the, this could be them saying you know what, we're not going to mess with the united states anymore, we're good, we're done, we're going to listen, um, you know, and that you know that they're, you know what I wonder, you know what?
Speaker 3:I wonder mario. Sure, I wonder if common is even alive at this point. I think today some kind of message came out that I don't even know if it's really him. Sure, I mean, for several days in a row, almost a week, we don't know where the guy is. I mean, the Israelis killed a huge amount of his cabinet for lack of a better word. They killed all those nuclear scientists. I mean, I don't know if the guy's alive or not. He's, I believe he's like 86 and I believe he has cancer. So he's very frail. And how do you lead a country If you're not visible in a time of great stress to your country? You can't you. That doesn't. That doesn't. That doesn't cast a big um, it doesn't make you look strong, it makes you look like you're either dead already or you're a coward. So they've got. You know, iran as a country has got a lot to figure out and you know, I don't know if the guy's even alive.
Speaker 2:And will this look like? Let's say, they remove him from office or he's no longer in office. Does this thing take a turn like Iraq? And you know it just goes. You know up, sideways and down, you know like where.
Speaker 3:Well, that's a nice little point because a lot of you know that question came up and Trump and Hegg said that. A few other people said look, we do not want regime change, which I think surprises a lot of people. They're like well, what do you mean? I thought the whole idea was these guys are evil. The problem is, as we saw with Libya and Iraq, what happens is when you do that, it creates so much chaos that then local warlords move in. I mean everything just dissolves into anarchy. So you don't want that. So you know the common name guy might be bad, but you don't want the entire power structure to just dissolve. So we don't need to be part of that. If the Iranian people do that, that's another thing. But we do not need and that's something I feel strongly about we do not need to partake in that.
Speaker 2:And I think that we've learned as a country.
Speaker 2:I hope, so I hope so you would think so from back then. And look, no disrespect to the president, the former president W, in regards to going after Saddam. I mean, history looks back and we definitely made the wrong decision. We made a wrong move and that's okay. It's not okay. I shouldn't say that it's okay. The agenda should we call it the? What do they call it? What was the term used way back in the day? Why can't I think of it? The industrial complex? To me, it felt very-.
Speaker 3:The military industrial complex.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, look, that's a whole show in itself For sure. I guess part of the reason that a lot of us voted for Trump is that we felt like he wouldn't want to do that, and I still hope that that's the case, and I still hope that the people in his cabinet, you know, feel that way, because what we don't want is a bunch of neocon warmongers, all trigger, happy, ready to go, you know, rip up the joint. We don't need that.
Speaker 2:So hopefully that'll be the case. I mean, we'll find out. I think that I believe that what what happened was it was just a little bit of muscle to just to say, hey look, and I was really surprised. I was like wow, I can't believe this is actually going down and and again, I don't believe that they would do it unless they thought they had to do it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I think you're right and to agree or disagree. Now, I'm not someone who was like, okay, we need to do this. I was like, okay, To me it felt like who had the bigger you know what I mean Like who's going to call each other's bluff and um, but it seems to me that everything moving for as of right now I mean things could change, but it seems to me that everything is is back to where it needs to be and hopefully we're not like doing a show in a bunker somewhere someday it hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 3:So, fingers crossed. And I will say this just one last thing, because I told you that I, I was talking to my wife in the days leading up to all this. We were both listening and and I looked at her, I was like, man, I think trump's gonna do something. She's like I, I do too. Yeah, that being said, I didn't think he was gonna do it this weekend, because he came out with that thing oh, you know, they're getting, they've got two weeks or whatever to kind of like you know, yeah, get a dial under the tape.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then, next thing, you know, on saturday, um, we do this. So I don't know what precipitated that. Part of me thinks that maybe when we saw all the trucks trying to carry the stuff out of there, um, through the satellite imagery, they're like all right, we're going to do this, or, who knows, maybe this was the plan all along. I don't know. But that die is cast, it has been done, and now I hope that, um, the ceasefire can hold, yeah, and that we can start moving towards fixing the situation it's interesting because there is so much video that is being put out there and you don't know if it's front post, pre you know whatever.
Speaker 2:Um, the biggest thing too, when, when you saw some of the, some of the videos that I saw on network tv about the president, them kind of like poking the bear, like well are you gonna do it or not? You know what I mean. He's like why would I tell you what I'm going to do? Look, mario.
Speaker 3:That's one reason I like having a businessman as president, because a politician who's never really worked in a job will will say anything at any time to grandstand, but trump's like yo. If, if this country was my business and I was the ceo, I'm not telling you what I'm about to do, because I'm about to do a deal, or I'm about to make an acquisition or whatever. It's none of your damn business and I don't want to mess up my deal by telling you.
Speaker 2:So that's one thing I like about trump it was interesting that I felt like they kind of poked the bear and he kind of was joking around and things of that nature. Um, as we get close to wrapping things up here from the pacific northwest, and the west coast in la for michael parker. Again, thank you so much for coming to hang out with us thank you I.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for us to do another show that may give us some more insight. Do we think? Do you, do you think they're going to go after Ghislaine Maxwell? You think they're just going to leave her in the prison? Or do you think they're just going to say you know what? We're just going to let this. She's just going to rot in jail and we're not going to really move forward with the case.
Speaker 3:That's complicated. I nearly lost audio for just a second. One of my wires is shorting out, I don't know. Unfortunately, because she's attached to the Epstein case and there's so much riding on that with so many people, I think that I don't think she gets out. I don't think I think that many of the powers that be would like for this to just fade into our memory and us all be distracted by other things that are happening. But I could be wrong. I mean, a lot of what I've said about the Epstein case to you today was not on a super deep level, because it's been a while since I've looked into it and I haven't really kept up with what's going on with Ghislaine. But what I can say, even from my point of view now, is she's still an accessory to an incredibly dark and deep and twisted, entangled situation that has transnational implications.
Speaker 2:It's wild on how how much he had clout and power over individuals, over wealthy individuals, which blows my mind. Even the guy who owned um, the guy who was the uh of Express and Victoria's Secret Les Wexner, I believe, was his name Blows my mind.
Speaker 3:Well, he made a Epstein. When I was producing a show Hidden Truth Show for another host, we did a deep dive on this as it was happening, and Epstein would ingratiate himself into the lives of the rich and famous because he wanted to be rich and famous and so he would, you know, kind of a fix it. He was like a parasite. He would have fixed himself to these people. And I'm not saying that Les Wexner is a good person or a bad person, I'm just saying that his modus operandi was like find a person with a lot of money, make yourself invaluable to them, try to get a hold of their money, move on to the next host.
Speaker 2:By any means necessary. I mean, they alleged that they had relations together.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and I don't doubt that at all, because that's how ruthless this guy was. I mean, listen, I believe that he was a narcissistic sociopath. I mean, I doubt that he had any true empathy for anyone. So which is what you need if you're going to do these kinds of activities and be this ruthless?
Speaker 2:well, that was a nice little bonus piece for us here. On us phenomenon no, seriously, because sometimes we don't get to go, you know, do extra stuff like that. But yeah, no, it's seriously. When you go back to look at that whole thing, I I believe that we're going to watch this fade into into the history books, where it's not going to get talked about. It's going to be the new jfk conspiracy, like that. This will. We will be always searching for the answers. I think that the jfk thing will go away. This will be modern day. This will be the modern day jfk. Uh, you know, it's one of it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's one of them, and I and I agree with you there's too many threads to pull, it's just too big, and I don't't want to give up and turn tail. But at the same time, we've got things like this situation that's on our plate right now with this unrest in the Middle East. We've got.
Speaker 3:Ukraine. We've got lots of issues to deal with, but that's what these guys get paid to do. So, kash Patel, dan Bagino, come on, man, show up, sort it out, be straight with the American people, please for sure, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:And you know what, I think we can handle it yeah and you know what look.
Speaker 2:We know that we, we know that presidential, we know that people of higher power I shouldn't say I shouldn't pick on anybody but we know that there have been cases and there have been stuff that has come out in past years where high-ranking officials have done the dirty stuff. Oh for sure, I mean the Kennedys, the alleged clans. I don't want to die so I don't want to find me on some beach somewhere down at Alki. I don't want to someplace. You never know. But again, alleged, alleged on all that stuff. But look like I was telling someone I don't care what you do on your off time, it's not my business. You know, if you're doing it in the White House, man, get a different place. Yeah, agreed, I don't care what you do on your own time, do you? That's you. I just you know you're in a public place, you're at work. It's kind of tacky.
Speaker 3:Have some taste.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Have some honor, yeah, have some respect for the position and have some respect for the people that elected you to be in that position just anybody just, yeah, just just be discreet okay, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:I mean, well, it don't hurt anybody. Yeah, don't hurt anybody. And, by the way, uh, just so we all, just for the record, if, if you were listening earlier, yes, I do have a picture with puff daddy, uh, but he was. He came to the radio station event. This is the if you were listening earlier, yes, I do have a picture with Puff Daddy, but he came to the radio station event. This is the back story. If you're listening and you made it this far, but he came to the radio station event. I got my picture taken with him. I haven't taken it down, it's still up, because I didn't do anything. He didn't put no baby oil on me and he didn't beat out of me, so I'm good on that piece me and he didn't beat out of me, so I'm good on that piece.
Speaker 3:So, um, I I have another friend as well, who, who has a picture with with diddy and, like I said before, man, you were doing your job, he was doing his job, did he was doing his job. Sometimes the photo is just a photo. So, um, yeah, I keep your, I keep your picture, man. No, no shame with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well.
Speaker 3:It is what it is, man.
Speaker 2:It is what it is From the Pacific Northwest. As we wrap things up here, I'd like to thank our guest, michael Parker, for coming to hang out with us this evening. You can find him on his social platforms, at Michael Parker Media on YouTube as well right, your shows there are available for people to watch.
Speaker 3:Michael Parker Media and on social media available for people to watch. Michael parker media and on social media. I'm, uh, michael parker, la mario. Thank you for inviting me on. I always have a good time and I just like to thank your audience for listening and I'd like to wish everybody a happy fourth of july week coming up.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, right, I I always forget that that's like right around the corner. I'm, uh, I'm going to a barbecue, so I'm excited about that. I'm going to hang out and be social. Sometimes I don't. I don't like to be out in the public and be social. I'm telling you, michael, it's just one of those.
Speaker 3:We're kind of curmudgeon-y uh, old dudes, but uh, but you got to go. Hey, man, you got to go rip it up. And uh, it's the fourth of july, let's go out there and celebrate, hey before we go one back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, can you believe that? Uh, uh, joey chestnut'snut's going to do Nathan's hot dog eating contest again. He's back in it.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know what I got. To be honest, I don't know who Joey Chestnut is. Okay, so Is he one of those guys that?
Speaker 2:is a competition eater. Yeah, he's a huge competition eater. I only watch on the 4th of July to see how many hot dogs these guys can eat. It is disgusting, but you're, I mean so him. So the big thing was joey and kobayashi were going head to head, and so I think I've heard of that guy, yeah yeah, so kobayashi had the title and then eventually joey beat him and then he has continued with the record.
Speaker 2:He stepped down for a year, somehow got disqualified, I don't know. Somehow something came up and then he was promoting vegan hot dogs lord knows why he was doing that and then all of a sudden, miraculously, he's back. So I will be watching the nathan hot dog eating contest to see if he's put down 70-something. Hot dogs Like 72 is the record or some nonsense like that.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine training for that, and can you imagine the next day?
Speaker 2:Oh my, I just yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as we wrap things up from the Pacific Northwest. Thank you, Michael Parker. Thank you to all our affiliates, kosw, kapy and KVI, our flagship station For my entire team, soon to be retiring. Or, yeah, he's retiring Mark Christopher. Yeah, he's retiring Mark Christopher. Myself, sophia Magana, or Sophia and myself, mario Magana, I got so flustered about him leaving. Be sure to look up at the stars, because you never know what you might see. Good night, good night.
