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The Charlie Kirk Assassination: America at a Crossroads
The tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk has created a watershed moment in American politics, pushing the country to confront the dangerous rise in political division and extremism.
• Michael Parker joins Mario to discuss the assassination of Charlie Kirk and its implications
• The show opens with a firm stance against violence on any part of the political spectrum
• The unprecedented spread of assassination footage across social media platforms raises concerns
• Both hosts express skepticism about certain aspects of the official narrative and timeline
• Discussion of the alarming public reactions, including individuals celebrating Kirk's death
• Examination of how this event will impact conservative movements and political engagement
• Analysis of various conspiracy theories emerging around the assassination
• Reflection on media responsibility and the amplification of extreme rhetoric
• Call for Americans to unite across political differences and dial back inflammatory language
• Hope that this tragedy might ultimately lead to greater national unity and raised consciousness
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Speaker 2:From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the 1962 World's Fair the Space you know. Good Fair, the space you know. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon. Wherever you are on God's green earth, I'm your host, Mario Magana.
Speaker 2:Tonight, on US Phenomenon, we're joined by Michael Parker, a longtime culture communicator, commentary, broadcaster, a truth seeker. A truth seeker, a grunge enthusiast, who has been the forefront of some of the most important conversations in alternative media. Michael Parker has spent years exploring the intersection of culture, politics and the truth. His voice has resonated with audiences looking for a deeper meaning behind the headlines and he has been a contributor to us phenomenon for such a long time. I thank our our good friend, karis astrology for hooking us up together. Uh, he is also. He's here tonight to talk about the tragic loss of charlie kurt and uh and share some perspective. And what does this mean for the movement moving forward? It is my pleasure to welcome back to US Phenomenon Michael Parker. You can find him on X as well, at Michael Parker Media LA. Tell me I did not mess that up this time.
Speaker 3:Michael Parker, la. How's it going, mario? Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 2:You know it's great. First and foremost, you're going to hear it here first. This show does not condone any violence on any spectrum of. Wherever you are on a political stance, I really don't give a care. Wherever you may lean, not my business. You want to believe in, do you? Do you?
Speaker 2:You're not going to hear me condoning any type of violence on any front here at US Phenomenon, on behalf of myself and everybody who has been a part of the show. We're just not here to condone any type of violence. Everyone has a platform to share what they want and to believe, and that's what makes us Americans right. I mean, that gives us the opportunity to use that right, that right that we've been given as us citizens the freedom of speech. You can hear me right I can't hear you, yes, um.
Speaker 2:So, michael, uh, before we get things going, uh, a couple things. Uh, on a lighter side of side of what's been going on. I'll tell you this. You heard it here first on US Phenomenon I know you're from LA it's going to be a Mariners-Dodgers West Coast World Series. You heard it here first Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. That's my prediction.
Speaker 2:Also, I got my rally stash on. The Mariners have not lost a game since they have produced these extravagant mustaches. So if you're from the Pacific Northwest and you're listening and you want to watch the show, you can. You can see the rally stash that I have on or you can take a look at that on one of my social platforms, on Air Mario at On Air Mario on on social. But I also, uh, last friday I threw out the first pitch at the mariners game for hispanic heritage night. Yeah, bro, that's fantastic. Oh, so much fun. It was really cool to be able. It is very, it's just all inspiring. Uh, it just like you walk out there and they're like okay, here's what you got to do. You practice. You know, I went home. I threw the ball with my old man.
Speaker 2:You know we had that opportunity and everyone's like are you in your own head, are you nervous? And I'm like no, I'm not nervous, because baseball, like yoga, yogi Berra said, is 90% mental and the other other 10% is physical. So I just kept telling myself that. And then where they're like okay, here's the, the instructions. I walk out there and I kid you not, michael, it is a whole nother world. You walk out to the mound, you get on this 10 inch mound. You walk up to the where the pitcher has the white striped right there, you put your foot on the thing and you're like oh, this is wild.
Speaker 2:Friends, families, colleagues, co-workers, um, former colleagues all came out to support. Um, there may be there, there may have been a chant, us phenomenon, but that could have been in my own head too, I'm not sure, um, but it was quite an honor to throw out the first pitch. My arm, I was like. I got it to the plate, but I was just a bit outside. So if that would have been a left-handed batter, I probably would have got him.
Speaker 3:Well, congratulations to you. That is a pretty major thing, and you must have handled the stress pretty well because, yeah, going out there in front of all those people and pitching, throwing out the first ball, that that's, that's impressive.
Speaker 2:So good on you, brother well, you know, it's just it. I I mean it was, it was fun, definitely fun uh, to be able to have my family, my sister, my dad uh. My dad, who was a hispanic uh uh, newspaper writer, back in the day, ran into a couple former um colleagues that were on the field, so that was kind of cool for him to have. That you know full circle moment from being a child, being with my dad on the field and then bringing him down with my daughter and my, you know, my sister, my stepmom, so that was quite an honor to have to be down there phenomenal for northwest phenomenon yeah, for, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:Hey, uh, michael, what the hell has been going on? I know it. This country we just celebrated the 24th anniversary of 9-11 uh, what seems to have taken a back seat to the tragic loss of uh, of someone who has been a forefront in a conservative movement that has really changed the political spectrum in regards to drumming up the younger population. The younger youth have really taken to this gentleman by the name of Charlie Curt, who was tragically gunned down by an assassin, kurt, who was tragically gunned down by an assassin.
Speaker 2:I think tonight, as we talk about what has transpired, what has happened, there is so much information that has been pushed across social media platforms. I'll be honest with you, man what, what? I know you just recently did a show on on what was going to be talked. I think what you talked about was the assassination of jfk, and, and, and. You were going a different direction, but share some of your thoughts that you were able to. I mean, because it was so fresh when you guys had recorded that show what was going on with you and your guest at that time so I was speaking with.
Speaker 3:First of all, I thank you for listening to it and thank you for, uh, telling people about it, and it's on michael parker media, if you wish to listen to it. My guest was william ramsey of. William ramsey investigates, and he and I go back quite a ways. Anyway, we had decided we were going to do this show like a few weeks ago, but the 11th was the day that we could both do it. I was already a bit wary of doing it on that day. We had no idea when we did it that the day before such a tragic event was going to happen. And basically what we were talking about, because William had done a lot of research on MKUltra, which is a mind control program that went from 1953 to 1973 and probably went on after that, but just not under that name, and we were talking about the film the Manchurian Candidate, which came out in 1962. For those who have not seen the film, it's a very good film, it's a very important film. It's also extremely chilling and depressing, to be totally honest, and what the film is about is some soldiers that come back from the korean war and they were attacked and then abducted and mind controlled, and one of those persons that comes back is then an unwitting assassin of a political candidate at a democratic national convention nomination. So that's what the film is about, and what's impressive about that film is the level of sophistication in the description of the nk ultra program and what william is talking about.
Speaker 3:Because I think that you had mentioned to me you were kind of saying why are people being, why are people wondering if the official story about this current story is true? And that's kind of what we were talking about in that show. I said I was like, regardless of what comes out, there's going to be a portion of the population that is going to be skeptical of what the official story is. And you know what I get it, man, because within our history you know most famously JFK. But you look at MLK, you look at RFK, you look at these assassinations, you look at the Butler, pennsylvania assassination attempt on President Trump, and there's just so many unanswered questions that people will always wonder what is really the truth. And now, because of social media and because of all these additional camera views and information that we can get very quickly, these types of tragic events almost become a Rorschach test of you seeing it what you may be predisposed to seeing. And unfortunately, and look, I consider myself a person who's really kind of in the center. I have traditional values, I'm a capitalist, admittedly Sure, admittedly sure. I can sympathize with both sides on different you know I, I, but I'm, I consider myself, a center to right kind of guy, but I can still sympathize with the left on certain things.
Speaker 3:However, in the aftermath of this, the outpouring of people expressing glee over the murder of this man was just really appalling. Immediately after it happened, people said and I reiterated this on the show and I still believe it I mean this is a watershed moment, this is the Rubicon. It has now been passed another level of consciousness regarding, certainly, political violence and this division between left and right. Now some people immediately were calling saying oh, you know this is, this could lead to a civil war. Did the people who were behind this are they trying to incite a civil war? All of that I get. And immediately after it happened, people were were saying oh, it's international interference, it's the government, it's the left-wing activists. There was all kinds of ideas about who it might be. Now, as I speak to you today, this is Sunday morning, on the 14th. So what I will say today is based upon the knowledge I have at this moment, not what we will know in the next day or two or three, right um but.
Speaker 2:But I do understand why people had all these questions and we'll probably still continue to have questions, I think, even with the amount of coverage that you know, having having to have a conversation with my daughter about this, because you know, social media does a very social media does what social media does best, and this is what has got me and you strikes in the past in regards to putting information.
Speaker 2:That may be what, however, that plays out, not what social media does like if, if they are trying to push an agenda, that's what they do best. What's interesting to me this is that, for on your for you page and I maybe I should backtrack this, but it became more available the coverage or the, the snippet of the said incident would of this tragic, you know, accident or this assassination, call it what it was on a young man. It blows my mind that it was available or that it is something that has been talked about in the media. That is an unwritten rule. That media, traditional broadcast media, doesn't play the clip. Play the clip. That is a it's not a law, but it is a unwritten rule within traditional media. Now, the fact that this video had gone viral or that it had made the rounds six ways from sunday, six ways from sunday, blows my mind, and that I had not seen the video, and then I saw the video and I'm like you cannot unsee that.
Speaker 2:No, for, for those that have children out there, let me put this warning out to you if you have an iphone, or if you have a device of some smartphone, make sure you turn off their sharing device. In regards to AirDrop, if you're an iPhone, an Android user, make sure you disable these devices for your kids, because that will limit those kids from getting said videos, such as inappropriate videos, stupid videos, you know, stupid pictures, things of that nature. Now, moving forward into what has happened, we're talking about a young man in his 30s who was shot, assassinated. I never thought I would ever be doing a show about something of this magnitude ever in my life. You think, oh, you know, these types of things don't happen. We've, we've, we've come, we've moved in a direction that has taught us like, holy heck, that is, you know, terrible. You're talking about the assassination of jfk, that film on a 35 millimeter camera, not the same of what we're seeing today on today's smartphones and what you had said earlier from six different angles that you can watch this, uh, this, this. You know the shooter, like everyone, was recording that that day. You know.
Speaker 2:I think at this point it is. It is tragic. We need to as americans come together. We haven't been more divided in this country than we have since night. I mean, we are more divided than we are together or united since 9-11. The 24-year anniversary had just passed by. I don't think. I think that day, on september 12th, there had been more people uniting on the steps of the capitol than you saw. You know going on on, you know, september 12th. There's a lot of things going on on the 25th, on september 12th 2025.
Speaker 3:Uh do you mean september 11th?
Speaker 2:yes, well, from september 11th, you know, then the 12th or whenever, when everyone gathered on the steps, whatever the day was, they all gathered around, you know. Then, the 12th, or whenever, when everyone gathered on the steps, whatever the day was, they all gathered around, you know. You know saying kumbaya, you know joined hands, things of that nature. Um, look we. What we know as of today is that we have someone who passed away, who was a very outspoken, uh, individual, charlie kirk, who was Point USA and had a huge movement going forward. That movement was very large. They do have the alleged shooter in custody as of today, as you said, his name was Tyler.
Speaker 2:Robinson, but he's not cooperating, according to the last reports that I have read. And what I really want to talk about is look, this is a conspiracy show, but how much has already spun and been woven out there to these different conspiracy theories. Michael, it is crazy to me how fast, like the gun situation, the, the airplane, these different things that have already spun out there, um, him having, you know, uh, charlie kurt, having conversations, alleged conversations with his, his pastor, who has ties to se, uh, mark Driscoll, I mean there's so much. I mean I think I sent you that video there's so much out there right now.
Speaker 3:Well, look so Charlie Kirk, listen. I and I admit like I'm fully, very well aware of Charlie work uh, charlie Kirk's work I was not like a daily follower or listener. However, I will say every time that I heard him speak you know, you and I are in the business of speaking and conveying thoughts His messaging was very strong. His verbal skills were amazing. His grasp, his memory, his knowledge was always on display. Very quick man. I mean, I was super impressed by the way he would deal with things and basically, you know, I mean, look at the sign that he would have behind him. Prove me wrong. So this is a man who was out there, who believed in the power of peaceful debate, and that takes a lot of guts to go into the lion's den and sit there and speak with people who are going to be openly hostile to you. Not lose your cool. Be aware of the situation and be cool, be calm. So what the end result of that is is that it really resonated with people and a lot of what he said resonated with people, and so I was very impressed with him on that level and he really moved the needle for the conservative side of the aisle. He woke up a lot of young people to conservative thoughts and he helped get Trump elected for sure. As a matter of fact, cnn was doing a piece on that today that I just saw it. I don't remember the reporter's name, but he was talking about the statistics of young American males who had decided to vote republican. Long story short, look dude, was massively effective, and whether you like that or not, the fact remains. He was.
Speaker 3:And now, after this, I don't even like using this word, but social media seems to believe that we can only say this, which is unaliving when in fact he was assassinated. Now his message is like Obi-Wan Kenobi it is far bigger than it was even before. So we are in a new place and I don't know what's going to come out this week, but a lot's going to come out. Certainly. The big focus, as of probably midday to afternoon of yesterday, is now the focus on the roommate, a guy named Lance Twiggs who was apparently transitioning, and the roommate of Robinson. So now let me go off. Let me say one other thing. He needs to be focused on heavily. I was not particularly impressed with the remarks of Kash Patel on the morning of the apprehension, when he was speaking with the governor of Utah because, look, I had positive feelings for Kash Patel and I was hopeful and so far I'm not super impressed. Here's the deal.
Speaker 2:I think you're not the only one who is no of the conservative mindset that says that Kash Patel doesn't. Hasn't, you know, proven his worth. But yeah, well.
Speaker 3:I think, look, it's not a time to take a victory lap. The reason this Tyler Robinson is behind bars at this moment is because they put the videos out there and the father supposedly turned him in. It's not as far as I could see, and maybe I'll be wrong, and maybe this week we're going to learn a lot of things that I can't speak to right now, but that's the reason the kid is behind bars, and when I did that show on the 11th at that point I said that I thought this looked like a professional hit.
Speaker 2:I mean from what I? I would say the same thing, same thing. You're like damn, that must have been a professional who did that.
Speaker 3:Some people who know a lot more about marksmanship than I do, are saying, no, that's not true. This wasn't that difficult of a shot if you had a decently calibrated scope on your gun. I can't really speak to that. Maybe they're right, but he only fired one shot. Now the guy in Butler, pennsylvania, that kid, thomas Crooks, who we still don't know very much about and this is another reason that people will question this story and any other similar story God forbid that happens in the future because we have been conditioned to be skeptical, and not without reason. But in this caseler robinson fired one shot, as far as I know. I mean, if there were any other shots, I didn't hear them and the shot that this kid took was fatal, so I don't know there's.
Speaker 3:The whole thing is is really upsetting to me even now. Sure, and what I'm really burnt about is the response by these people on the left lawmakers, coaches, first responders, medical people that were gleeful. They were so insanely gleeful that they thought it would be a good idea to take out their phone and speak to it and say these things. I mean like that is beyond me. So this whole thing, it's almost like it just gets worse by the day, but it is my hope that something positive will come out of this. And if there is a civil war which results from this which actually I don't think, that's what's going to happen, because I think that civil war is already lost.
Speaker 3:I think that what is going to happen is a raised awareness and those who were not particularly political before, especially on the more traditional value side, are now going to be very political. And we have pushed past the point of just being tolerant of extreme political ideology, saying this group of people is better than all these other people, or political violence. You know, that's the other thing. That's bugging the heck out of me is now a lot of the people on the left are trying to say well, we never advocated violence. Well, that's absolutely untrue. I mean, there's plenty of data, there's plenty of videos on. We were burning up freaking teslas, for, god's say, are you know scratching teslas and burning down cities and doing things like that? They're going to try to walk that back, but you know what that horse is out of the barn man. Everybody saw it. So now we are on a completely different playing field on that note.
Speaker 2:Um, I think, when we talk about this, I was like there's no way that there's any liberal that could pull that shot off and I I say that because, no, I know what you're saying. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I, I was like, I was like. But whoever, however this played out, we know that the alleged shooter is in custody. Yeah, look, here's the thing that really kind of struck my, uh, my curiosity, something I told my daughter the other day don't speak, listen. Yes, then formulate here. Here's what's interesting to me, taking in the information that we have up to said point you know where some of the alleged shooter dismantled this gun and then which I still don't understand.
Speaker 2:I don't either.
Speaker 2:I'm quite baffled by this piece yes these are things that make me go, hmm, like cnc music factory, let me just throw that out there. Things that make you go, hmm, and and I'm like no disrespect to, I mean, this kid, tyler Robinson doesn't look like someone who, I would say, has the aptitude to take said gun apart and put it back together and then throw it in the woods, which, if that's where they said they found the alleged. They said he discarded the gun right, the rifle or what, which blows my mind. Okay, why would you then assemble this thing again to then just throw it away? You know, to discard it.
Speaker 3:That's a great question and, look, I'm going to state to the audience at this time Sure, I am satisfied with the, I'm satisfied with him being involved, and this is just like Lee Harvey Oswald all over again, and this kid absolutely was radicalized in some way by someone that were seemingly in the social circle, whether in real life or on social media, to determine who all may have been involved with this.
Speaker 2:Because if let's just say for talking purposes, because we're in the conspiracy rabbit hole. If we look at a couple of these theories you know there were there had been, uh, alleged claims that that charlie was concerned for his own life and it had been wearing, uh, you know, protective gear.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, and I think that was reasonable because look any anybody that's going to do what he did and unfortunately this is going to scare a lot of people to not want to do that. There's going to be some people who are going to take up the gauntlet and they will become more steadfast, but I think a lot of people will be like you know what? I just don't have the guts to do what Charlie did. I think it would be absolutely reasonable for a person who was going to do that to wear a lot of body armor.
Speaker 2:And the other thing that we need to remind ourselves as Christians and things of that nature. The Bible says not to put anyone on a pedestal. We should only be worshiping one person and we should not have false idols, and that, you know, that is key and I we need to remind ourselves that. And in regards to I'm not going to go too down the biblical channels, but, you know, because people are now starting to call him a martyr, things of that nature, look, it's unfortunate that this gentleman who had, you know, who was gunned down, was a, first and foremost, he was a Christian man. Number two, he was a godly man, he was a husband, he was a father to two children, very young, very little.
Speaker 2:So, in regards to what you were saying earlier, in regards to how disgusting it was that people from you know one side of the fence had been, you know, showing and expressing themselves, and I just don't want to even like, give anyone any like, as you can tell, I'm very much not going down that road to say what they were doing.
Speaker 2:I think it's just disgusting. Uh, these, these, he's human, just like you and I, unless we're, you know, unless we are, aliens by some. You know, form of uh, of um, and we were put here on this planet by aliens. But to go back to you know, to this situation here, um, it's, it's, it just blows my mind to think that this happened, just you know, you know, you know, happened in modern time, in modern time. But what's, what is interesting to me also about this is the different conspiracies that have already made it out there. And I want to, I want to get your thoughts on this. His thought, had he had been making, had, had he had shared concerns, alleged concerns about, you know, assad, israel, that whole situation, I mean that whole conspiracy is out there right now.
Speaker 3:Yep, the, the plane, the uh the, the private plane that took off, which from yeah, from from phoenix uh, from from provost, I think yeah, then they flew to phoenix and they flew back, I think, in there and the transponder was off.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah and and look, ladies and gentlemen, private jets do that. Uh, you know, you don't see taylor swift um with her tail number out there. That's a private jet. You don't see Kim Kardashian West out there doing the same thing. These are, these are high individuals that turn off their transponders because they are allowed to as a private jet to get their clients out to the said location safely, so that you know if there's some creepo or whoever, that they have that right and and we'll talk. We can continue talking about that as well. It's just interesting to me how many of these different conspiracies have come out you're talking about now. The shot angle is out there. They think that that that may have been, uh, been, you know, miss mislabeled as a wrong area. You have hand signals of the people.
Speaker 3:And now, there and now there's a guy that's pushing around a video saying there was a person in the blue. I've seen the photo, but let me get back to the other point, because what I'm trying to say is that, especially in the hours in which we're still searching, now there's the 33 hour conspiracy. If you know, we he was taken in in 33 hours. Look, when something this monumentally disturbing happens and it's a person that is so beloved by so many people are going to try to figure things out, sure, sure. And as I said in my show, citizen journalism and look. So my wife had on Bill Maher the other night and he was saying oh you know, the internet gets everything wrong.
Speaker 3:Really, Bill. Actually, I think the internet gets a lot right as much as it gets things wrong, and a lot of times it's way ahead of what mainstream media is going to do. As you mentioned, mainstream media, tastefully, is not going to air that particular clip, sure. However, what frustrates me about mainstream media is they don't move fast enough and they're afraid to say things that the rest of us have already figured out and may have already moved on, and they never addressed it in the first place.
Speaker 2:So, but it goes back to, I think, the thing that we have to remember about the mainstream media. In regards to they, I think they are still trying to get to this. Well, not all of them, but most still are looking for the three credible sources in regards to tying that piece together before they, you know, send out said message, but sometimes they don't get that. You know what I mean, okay.
Speaker 3:So here's the problem. So just this morning, I don't even remember which news channel my wife had on, but you know the person goes and we're still trying to figure out a motive. Really, I think we know what the motive was and, regardless of this kid acted alone or did not, or was involved, involved in a larger thing, it's clearly a political ideology that was behind it. I mean that that's beyond debate. So just admit it. Yeah, but that, but they are loathe to do that because I mean, dude, the media here in los angeles, it's almost worthless, it is.
Speaker 3:I mean, I have to sit here every day and watch them backpedal on all of these various subjects. You know we're going to attack ice agents and you know we're going to now guard certain things. I'm like, look, look, there's just, there's just laws and you're either going to abide by them or you're not. And then the media its job, if it's acting in good faith, is to stay with what the law is and not try to push a particular bias. And I mean, so the media has a lot to answer for. As I said in my show, I believe that the media repeats certain themes and tropes over and over and over again until people become like Manchurian candidates. They're just hypnotized because they've heard things so many times that they feel like they're alleviated from having to dig any deeper and that justifies the anger that they now feel. So that enables them to act out.
Speaker 2:So the mainstream media to me, I I'm very frustrated with it, and it is why people will pursue conspiracy theories and for me, someone who would say has been a part of the mainstream media for such a long time, I'm very careful on what I'm consuming from said mainstream media. No, I I very much, am not watching any local, local media. So I am not watching local media anymore.
Speaker 3:Number two I watch if my wife turns it on every morning and we watch it and, and here in la it's mostly entertainment news, which kind of bugs me a lot. I mean that, um, it's, you know, that's easy, it's like that's not news no, but it's entertainment, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's easier. It's easier to produce when you have, you know, 20 something year olds and I shouldn't be a jerk like that but when you have younger, up-and-coming people in the business who are getting their break working in news as I'm putting air quotes out michael, you, you're very savvy and smart man who has, you know, identified as it as entertainment, which is probably what it is a grudge enthusiast, as you said in the intro yeah, sorry I mean you are seeking the truth.
Speaker 2:right, you know we are seeking the truth, but let me throw this out at you, and this hasn't been talked about let's put on our critical thinking skills. Let's do it. Let's do it, michael. What if this was a playbook out of the chaos book of someone who did this many years ago? His letter starts with an H. Out of the book that he wrote, there was you create chaos and you create this. What if this was some type of inside job in regards to divide the country, to create chaos, in regards to something of that? I mean, did that ever run through your mind when this?
Speaker 3:Of course, of course. I mean that was one of the first things that I thought was a possibility. And I'm not saying listen, I'm not saying that didn't happen. I don't know enough yet. And that's why we need to look very deeply into the roommate, all the people that they were talking to on Discord, because there's a lot of really sketchy stuff, and it seemed like a lot of people seemed to know that something was going to happen on that day to charlie kirk. Um, so I don't know who's ultimately behind it, but certainly I think creating chaos and traumatizing people was part of the intent. But but, as I repeated earlier, if this was to start some kind of civil war, I think that's already lost. I think they've lost in the long run.
Speaker 3:I don't know that that was in the play cards for this but I definitely felt A lot of people think that Harvey Levin of TMZ, who has had to back up what he said about his show, came on and said that he thinks it's a civil war. I'm not saying that I believe that, but I'm saying that a lot of people besides me have said that and said that from the get-go. And here again, I understand why people think that is part of the reason behind it.
Speaker 2:Here's my view on this, and you don't get this. Shame on you, tmz, for saying that. You have the opportunity. You have an opportunity as media to be respectful of the situation and to not start. Your job is to report, but they are entertainment, so you're going to get a lot of that and I need to remind myself to bring myself, because I do not want to be upset about how I'm going to say these things, but shame on them for not taking the opportunity to disengage in regards to that, in regards to a situation where the mainstream media, the alternative media, the social medias of the world have an opportunity to unite this country.
Speaker 2:This is a this is an opportunity to unite this country in regards from from the top down. This is an opportunity from top down, whoever in regards to the President of the United States, all the way down, we all have an opportunity and if we are missing that opportunity because there was this tragic event in time has happened, we're not getting that. He's not coming back by any means. And for those that are, you know, huge charlie kurt fans, who have been a part of the movement, you're, you're going to continue to see this movement grow on on on so many different levels. You're going to see christians unite on levels that have never been seen before.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, and when I brought up Harvey Levin I'm not trying to pile on about that, he's just the first person that I thought of who has said that on a camera that I've seen, although that idea was already being expressed on the internet by a lot of people. And this still gets back to the very first thing that we started the show with was like why would people think certain things? Well, it's kind of we've been conditioned to think this is a possibility, and I reposted a long piece today on my ex, which is Michael Parker, la, and it was this guy. I think he's just, you know, he's just a regular dude, a businessman, but he wrote this long piece about people that were not necessarily political, just regular people going about their business, that's you and me, we're not political.
Speaker 3:Well, look, I am admittedly political and I consider myself a dissenter, but I lean right. But at times I also can commiserate with things. But my point is is that the people who are not even at the level that guys like us would be bro, they're awake now and they blame a certain political ideology for that. So the left is going to have to really man up, belly up to the the bar, dial the rhetoric down.
Speaker 3:These people that have been fired, I really don't have a great deal of sympathy for them, because they expressed arrogance and a lack of humanity that is beyond me and that does not help. So if everybody's going to have a moment to raise their consciousness and elevate their speech, those people certainly didn't do it. Maybe they will change their minds going forward, but this is more radicalizing than the assassination attempt on President Trump. This was a guy who I think should be seen as a civil rights leader. This was a guy who I think should be seen as a civil rights leader, and this has resonated on a level that this is a global awareness thing. I'm not saying that I agree with everything Charlie Kirk said.
Speaker 2:There were certain things that I disagreed with him on, but what I can acknowledge and I think anyone fair-minded would is this is a man who was a good dude and he spoke his mind and he spoke it cogently, calmly, and he didn't seem to be fearful and that resonated with a lot of people, especially young people, and that is the thing that they took him away from all of us for when you say that let's go back to the um, when the movement kind of started, um, I think that you know, I think something that we talked about many I don't even want to say many years ago, but I think that you and I tiptoed about political correctness in regards to things swaying, and I think your scene of movement, even from my daughter, who has, I wanted to say, common sense, yeah, and I feel like her generation, who wasn't raised by millennials, is very much. I mean, she's a product of the Gen Xers, right, she's a product of the gen xers, right, she's a product of some gen xers and we grew up in in some interesting times where things were said back in the day, we were kind of crude, obnoxious, sometimes borderline abusive to individuals. As we grew up, we apologized for it, um, but I think, even for the younger generation, she's like enough is enough, like be who you want to be, do you? But I'm not, you're not going to affect my world and I'm not going to affect your world, don Don't? You know, stay in your lane, I'm staying in mine.
Speaker 2:If you disrespect me, I'm going to say, hey, excuse me, but hey, enough is enough, and I think that's something that you're going to start seeing is kind of a we're starting to see now is them pulling back to say, hey, look, people make mistakes in life. Okay, do you? I'm staying in my lane, you stay in your lane and let's move on? Kumbaya, and I think that's what needs to happen. Is we need to get back to not being I don't want to be like disrespectful, but let's be respectful of each other. You know, like, regardless of what you know, what someone does with themselves or what you know, whatever, whatever your political stance is, I don't care. I I don't care for me. At the end of the day, I'm not judging you because the bible told me not to judge you. You know, I'm gonna let our maker make that judgment call, that's not not my place to make that call.
Speaker 2:Plus, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not savvy enough to be making those types of judgment calls.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, I barely can put two sentences together to do this radio and video podcast, let alone judge someone for whatever they're there, who they are and, by the way, there's there's tons of great people, but there also is, on both sides of the aisle, there's some crazies out there.
Speaker 2:There are people that I don't feel comfortable to be around. On both sides of the fence I'm in the middle, I'm sticking to my lane doing my own thing and, however that plays out, when I'm done living on this plane and surface, I hope I did my job. I hope I was, you know, a god willing, you know a god abiding man, and that you know that when I'm I'm walking up to the pearly white gates, that I'm able to walk through there without being saying hey, by the way, you're to go over here and take a timeout, you know, and go sit in purgatory or whatever the case may be. I just don't have that type of rhetoric of hate on anybody. I just think there's no place in this country for it, and I know that this country's better when we're united and not divided.
Speaker 3:Agreed, and I would say that, say that and listen. This is not an idea that's unique to me, but you will see society move from left to right, right to left, and these things become cyclical. And what I think you just saw is when one side has been pushed so far, they're like all all right, you know what? The gloves are off, the tolerance is off. We're done here, okay. And so now I would expect to see a bit of certainly look a lot of people.
Speaker 3:When these certain political ideologies and things woke ism came up, they're like man, I want to stay out of that conversation because I don't want somebody to cancel me for having said this or being misunderstood about that or whatever, because they were demanding. They were demanding that you step in line and believe the way that we do, and the, the media, the media amplified that. The media is largely left and corporations got behind that. And then they did ad campaigns that cost them tons of money, like the Bud Light thing. And then you see them and target and people like this are like well, wait a minute.
Speaker 3:Maybe I missed the boat here, maybe I misjudged this, but there was a great deal of political pressure upon them to do that. And now we've reached this place where the other side's like okay, you know what? We've had, enough, that's it. And the assassination of this good man was that point. So now we are in a new place and the good that can come out of this there's a lot of good that can ultimately come out of this, and that would start with the dialing down of just the extreme ideology and the anger that it is enabled by the worst aspects of that side of the aisle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that if both sides tone it back a little bit, you might start seeing Agreed. I struggle with the piece that this individual was able to pull this off. I'm blown away. I was like, regardless on what side of the aisle, I was like this guy cannot, how I, I, I'm, I'm still blown away that this individual, like this dude, looks like a p, like he doesn't even look, like he had the, the capability to pull this off, which will.
Speaker 3:You're right, and let me throw this, this in the mix as well, because you know, even though this happened on the 10th, just a few days ago- yeah there's still things that make no sense, like this old man, this george zinn character that you know, says oh, I did it and he's immediately cleared.
Speaker 3:Yet he was a person that was on the scene at 9 11 as well. I mean, wait a minute, you're talking. Basically, this is a, this is a provocateur. Then you've got the other guy that they apprehended for a minute. I mean like there's a lot of strangeness about this. I am I'm pretty comfortable with the apprehension, sure of this, tyler robinson. I just don't know all that went into making him do what he did. But even if that is shown, we've still got all this other strangeness. And listen.
Speaker 3:I admit, I'm profiling too. Right off the bat I was like this kid fires one shot and gets away with it.
Speaker 2:Like holy cow. I said that I was like bull sharts. Yep, we weren.
Speaker 3:Sharts Yep, we weren't the only ones. A lot of people thought the same.
Speaker 2:I ain't buying what they're selling. I'll tell you that much. I ain't buying that. And and and I was like, oh so he's leaving. He's Lee Harvey Oswald right now. I said in my, from what I was put, I was want me to buy that this dude was able to to jump off a roof, take this gun apart, then put it back together, this alleged gun these are all alleged stories and then dispose of the you know the, the firearm.
Speaker 3:I'm like no way that dude that michael, michael savage, who I rarely, if ever, listened to. Basically he's saying everything you're saying. And he said, almost immediately after the, the fbi, um sure, with cash patel and the governor. He's like, well, wait a minute, you know he's saying everything you're saying. And he said it almost immediately after the FBI, with Kash Patel and the governor. He's like, well, wait a minute, he's trying to understand this. The disassembling of the gun, the reassembling, there are things that really make no sense.
Speaker 2:What about the piece? That may not make sense to you. Hold that thought real quick. But what about when the president of the United States made the announcement of Charlie Kerr's passing? He was the one that made that announcement. On X or social or whatever his platform, he made that announcement right. And then on Fox and Friends, the president of the United States then said hey, we apprehended the shooter. I was like, wait a second, I need to go back and watch the video again of that piece.
Speaker 3:Well, remember they apprehended two people initially, both who turned out to not be the shooter. I think that's what you're referencing right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm talking about having Tyler Robinson under custody and that's when the president made that announcement on fox and friends.
Speaker 3:The next day is my, okay, I I can't really speak to that because I'm not sure. I'm not sure about it sure.
Speaker 2:the only the only reason why I brought this up was what drew red flags for me was why is the president of the united states making these announcements? And I was like that should be coming from the FBI or those traditionally were coming from the Bureau or from local authorities, not from the president of the United States. So I found it to be alarming because that has never been done that I know of in modern day history. I don't remember Clinton, bushes, reagan. I don't remember any of those guys making any types of announcements of those statures, of maybe Clinton. I got to go back and look but under it it just was weird. It was, I shouldn't say weird. I thought it was very strange that the president was making those announcements.
Speaker 3:Well, look, trump is not the typical president and he talks a lot, so I don't know if I would argue that was inappropriate. I've got to go look back at the time code on when that happened, but I will say that I'm still disappointed and I want to be wrong. I want there to be logic that shows why things happened in the way that they did, and because I just feel like if the fbi had not put out that video and I applaud them for doing that I didn't really like the victory lap, as if we got him. Well, he was brought to you. And here again, this is me seeing what I'm seeing this week, and by the time this thing comes out on your radio show later in the week, there's going to be, there is going to be a huge amount of information, so I'm only speaking with what I know now.
Speaker 3:But as I was watching that, I was kind of cringing. I was like man, you guys, uh, you didn't really get him, he was brought to you, but I do applaud them for for putting the video out there, because if the video had not been out there but at, on the other hand, it's like that is the most logical thing that you could have done. You don't have to show the clip of Charlie Kirk, but every bit of visual footage that you had that alluded to this potential shooter. Yes, you should have gotten that out to the public, in my opinion, which they did. In my opinion, which they did, and it led to supposedly the father recognizing his son, asking son, were you involved?
Speaker 2:kid supposedly confesses, and you know the rest of the story sure, um, I wish I, I, of all the people that I wish, was still alive. I wish, I wish that the guy who wrote Behold the Pale Horse was still around, because if he was, he would I 100% believe that he would be probably doing the same thing as what Savage was saying the other day.
Speaker 3:Well, a lot of people are going to and here again, man, it gets back. People have earned the right to intellectually be curious and to be skeptical and I think to deny that would be being really willingly naive.
Speaker 2:William Cooper. Sorry I had spaced my head, but William Cooper wrote Behold the Pale Horse. And I think food for thought is. He always said don't be a sheep, be a lion, and I know a lot of during a certain movement.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of lions have been made in the last three days but I think that we have to remind ourselves to when we're consuming said media, if it's social, if it's traditional. However, take the information in, formulate a coherent thought and make sure that you're you're getting the right information. Um, I'm not saying what you're getting is right or wrong. I'm just saying that, um, just use your critical thinking skills and make sure that you're you know, you're, you're tabulating, formulating, uh, you know, a good, a good, a good thought out there in regards to what's being put out there, and be like am I really buying this? In regards to what's been going on now at this, here's what I will say. I think the other piece too, that, um, right after the assassination of charlie kirk, uh, I know that the, the government was taking a vote to not um and uh, to not publicly release the epstein files. I think that conspiracy is also out there as well.
Speaker 3:Um, and, of course, and a lot of people. That is okay. Let me speak to that for just a second. You and I have talked a lot about the epstein thing.
Speaker 2:Listen, we're all appalled by that and I am not happy.
Speaker 3:I am not happy with the way that it's been handled by this administration. However, I can think about multiple things at the same time, so every time I see somebody talk about a particular subject and then somebody says but the Epstein files? I'm like bro, we're on your side, we agree, but we can also think about multiple things at the same time that need to be fixed. So, yes, that is a problem. I absolutely agree and I'm not happy with the way it's been handled, but it's not the only single thing that I want to see fixed. There are many things that I want to be sick fixed sure, and, and, of course, that being uh.
Speaker 2:That being said, I know that. Uh, you know there were. There were talks about charlie and I'm sure there are videos of him, you know, saying that these files need to come out but, sure so is.
Speaker 2:This administration has also said that as well, that during the campaign that they know, hey, we want these files to be released, things of that nature. It's just, it's just interesting that now that they're not going to release those files, hey, if there are, if there are victims out there that are now going to start coming forward, go ahead, do it. You know, do, do your. I just I hope that it's just the alleged gunman who has been apprehended.
Speaker 3:Me too.
Speaker 2:And we're not going to go down some rabbit hole, and I hope that they do their damnedest to not let another situation happen in regards to him being securely locked down.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean mean. That's a good question because, like, how does this even happen at this point? Okay, where charlie kirk did his speech as an outsider, I'm just looking at, well, that's man. He's surrounded by buildings that a shooter could get on top of. It just seems to me like, it just seems common sense. Let's get some drones up, let's look at every single building. I don't know how this even happened. And if this kid was acting alone, why was it he busted man, why was he not? You know, it's the same thing with with butler, pennsylvania people saw a guy on top of the building. So at this point, anytime there's going to be a public speaker in a large setting like this, every elevated area that a human being could get on top of with ease that's just common sense. Man, get up there, look around and see if there is a threat that needs to be dealt with.
Speaker 2:With it's very interesting when you, when you talk about this, that these, these buildings, these purchase things of that nature, um, you're you're talking about an individual with private security versus, you know, secret service, uh, detail in regards to the president of the united states, and that's a whole nother, a whole nother circus and animal that you know to talk about. In regards to and we, I've had this discussion with you he should have never had, even because he was the former president of the United States.
Speaker 3:his detail should have been top notch, period, right, absolutely, and then what that's and that's a whole other story for a different show, because there was a lot of problems with what happened on that day and it gets back to our initial point. This is why people are skeptical because of the things that they've seen in the past, that we are going to need incontrovertible evidence that this kid acted alone and was not part of a larger conspiracy, and it will have to be blatantly obvious, otherwise some people are not going to believe it and some people are going to question it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I still question that young man that was on the top in Pennsylvania. I was like that dude.
Speaker 3:Without a doubt, we don't know anything about the kid.
Speaker 2:I mean. To me it's like we got two of these young, whatever they are, these two individuals.
Speaker 3:They look Unhappy young men, disenfranchised, disenchanted, god knows what led up to their decision-making process.
Speaker 2:And here we are. I'm like, okay, you know, after seeing the video, the tragic video which I did not need to see, I was like, oh for sure. I was like I am not trained, but I was like, damn, whoever shot him was a trained killer. The initial video. After seeing the initial video, yeah, I think most of us thought that. I think a lot of us and I pray for his family, his kids.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's just horrific, you know, and I've heard people even my daughter was saying the other day she's like people are disgusting out here. People are disgusting. And in regards to having you know saying the things that you know we've talked about earlier, in regards to you know praising such you know saying the things that you know we've talked about earlier, in regards to you know praising such, you know, disgusting thoughts, it's just we have to take a step back, regardless on what your political view is. Just stop, you know. Just take a moment, be respectful.
Speaker 3:If I was the PR company that was hired by the left side of the aisle, like, please help us now become more popular and what? What do you want us to do? I'd be like, man, your messaging, you've got to completely change it, because now it looks just to be really angry political ideology and you can't talk like this. And my wife always says, well, but how about Trump, the way he talks? I'm not apologizing for the way that Trump talks and I wish that he spoke differently, but that's Trump and it's not an entire party speaking like that. And on the left you've got a lot of people that speak really crazy and angry a lot of the time and then the media amplifies those messages, which makes them even more brazen.
Speaker 3:So if I was a PR company that was hired by the DNC or by the left side of the aisle, I'd be like we're gonna have to do a lot of work here and the first thing we're gonna need to do is dial down our rhetoric, reach across the aisle and don't even think about putting videos out there that are gleeful in the assassination of a young father husband here's another prediction I'll give you.
Speaker 2:I know that there was a lot of talk about the movement that liberals or Democrats were going to be able to win some seats back. I don't think that's going to happen and I'll tell you right now. I'll just be blunt. I'll be blunt If they don't grow some balls in regards to, like, figuring out and how to approach, uh, a movement in regards to, uh, you know, being able to have a conversation, uh, to be able to have put a coherent sentence together in regards to being respectful. You ain't, you're gonna see another, you're gonna see another shellacking come November. I'm just, I'm just going to say that because they become so passive with their in regards to being so passive and and be like you know and what we've been talking about this entire time, and that is not going to win you elections.
Speaker 3:If you were going out with a girl who was just always angry and nitpicking about everything and acting irrationally at home. You dump her and it's like, and yeah, if you're, if you have a friend that is just constantly acting this irate, you've got to cut them loose for your own mental health, sure. And I don't know what's going to happen in November. I see logical arguments on both sides. Typically, the party that is out of power in the executive branch puts up seats. But after what just happened, Not a chance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's looking less likely and um, so I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Of course, we don't know what's gonna happen, but that's what's, what's the great, what's I?
Speaker 2:hear you, I and, and that's a valid argument to make um, as we get close to wrapping things up here from the pacific northwest um. Again, I'm not condoning any type of violence. I think this is me saying that, hey, regardless on what side of the fence you lie on, take a deep breath. Hug somebody, for God's sakes. You know we need to be more united than divided as a country. I'm just concerned. I still have my. I'm still processing this information. I know that they have the alleged shooter. I'm going to continue to hold out. Michael, you may be back on because if things change, I'd love to come back on.
Speaker 2:We will continue to beat down the drum. Love to come back on we'll um, we will continue to beat down the drum and you know I I hope this doesn't go down the same rabbit hole as an epstein. I want there to be swift action. I want there to be swift resolve. I want there to be, I want everything to be methodically done well from this administration, from the fbi, from the top down. Get all the information, get all the facts. Let's make sure we got all the I's and T's crossed and dotted so that when the evidence is presented to the American public, that you have it all. I don't want this to be an Epstein situation. I don't want this to be a Lee Harvey Oswald situation. I want this to be dialed in to the T and that way you and I won't be doing a show saying, holy hell, can you believe what just happened? You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Can you hear me? I think my camera just froze.
Speaker 2:Your camera froze, but you're still there. I can hear you. Cool, all right.
Speaker 3:Brother, I am with you 100% and my hope and my prayers are that this has a positive outcome and I actually think it's going to, because it's raised the level of discourse in which certain types of language that's just not cool anymore Do not do it. And you know what? There's a lot of people that should have been fired for saying things a long time ago. So my hope is out of this tragedy comes a new awareness and a raising of our consciousness on all sides, because we could all do better, Absolutely, and I choose to go into this with an optimistic attitude that we're going to become better out of this. That's the only way that I can.
Speaker 2:That's the only way I choose to look at it, his wife, the widow of Charlie Kirk, his children, who are now going to grow up without a father. I hope that I've seen that there are people that are donating to the Kirk family and I know that they are going to be okay. There's a community that is behind them. We all should be rallying behind them, and I know that what I'm saying is probably going to piss a ton of people off, but have some some, some decency. You know, just stop and think for a moment like, okay, you didn't, you didn't agree with him, Neither did, neither did Bill Maher, but he at least he was compassionate about you know what? What some of the stuff you're saying is kind of stupid and not right.
Speaker 2:You know, we need to take a, we need to take a step back and we, we all need to dial back the rhetoric if that's the case and just start being american and start uniting each other. You don't have to have the same political view. Look at how many people go to these football games on a sunday or saturday that are not, or even baseball Heck, I saw people wearing Make America Great Again hats at the Mariner game. You know, I mean, sports unites us on so many fronts. So I hope that we can. This tragedy will take a spin to bring this country united again, so I hope that that's the case.
Speaker 3:Amen.
Speaker 2:On that note, I want to thank you, Michael Parker, you and your frozen image.
Speaker 3:Yep, I don't know how that happened. I just looked at it. I'm like I am no longer moving, but I assure you I'm still alive, because you can hear me speaking.
Speaker 2:This is AI taking effect. Huh, this is the AI version of you now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to start just using an AI avatar.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Please, I kid.
Speaker 3:I'm not down with that at all.
Speaker 2:Are you down with avatar? Yeah, you know me. People are like what are you singing OPP for? Hey, let me leave you with a positive thought.
Speaker 3:Sure, please do. Some cool things did happen this week. So the UAP hearing and I did not expect much, but it did happen on, I believe, tuesday. I watched it. There was some good stuff, so that happened. I'm very happy that they're continuing to have these hearings and I understand how people are skeptical that anything will come of it, but I'm glad that happened. And the other thing is a week ago tonight I saw Oasis at the Rose Bowl and they were awesome and it was a super jovial event. I think there was like 90,000 people there and, man, there's goodness left in the world by people and so focus on that. Enjoy your family, enjoy putting some goodness out there today is gonna be the day that's awesome.
Speaker 2:That's. That's awesome man again. Uh, thank you, michael parker media. Thank you, michael parker, for coming out. You can find him on his social platform, on x, at mich Parker, la. Um, thank you again for coming to hang out with us. It's always fun to hang out with you. Um, we're going to have to. Uh, we definitely need to have a reunion. I'd love to have you and and our good old buddy, uh from the East coast, make a West coast appearance here and uh have a conversation. Um, maybe we'll do a prediction show where we all get together and predict what's coming for 2026. I think he definitely misses you.
Speaker 2:I know in the past shows he's like we've got to get Michael Parker back on.
Speaker 3:That's very kind.
Speaker 2:I know that he would love to chat with you and I would love to get his take on what's going on right now. We need to give him a call On that note from the Pacific Northwest. I'd like to thank our guest, michael Parker, for coming to hang out with us. You can find us on our social media platforms. If you're not a follower of the radio show, you can go to your favorite podcasting platform and search US Phenomenon. You can go to my website, onairmariocom to subscribe to the podcast and become a premium subscriber to the show to get exclusive content like this from our premium platform For Michael Parker, for Sofia Magana, mark Christopher and myself. Mario Magana, be sure to look up at the sky, because you never know what you might see. Good night.
