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Sasquatch News From Forks
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We share big news from Forks: a new Sasquatch museum is targeting a June 1 launch with a rare, provenance-backed cast collection, plus fresh field investigations on the Olympic Peninsula. Tom Sewid explains why he rejects “woo,” how real evidence gets made, and what community gatherings will look like.
• Meldrum replica casts, Freeman tracks, and rare butt print on display
• Grand opening plans in Forks with on‑site recording and vendors
• Winter slow season offset by night ops and local reports
• Why AI hoaxes fail and how to spot them
• Clear stance on “critter” evidence over portals and cloaking
• FLIR sighting of a pregnant female and tall male in Nebraska
• Habitat pressure, interbreeding risk, and land‑use context
• Lifespan claims, shaman medicine, and Indigenous perspectives
• Missing persons percentages and predation debate
• St. Helens myth debunked via oral history and evacuation behavior
• Events favoring campfires, small groups, and direct access
Send me a text, 775-990-5151, if you’re interested in the grand opening festivities and want to be part of the list
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SPEAKER_01:From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the 1962 World's Fair, the Space Needle. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be on this uh Godforsaken planet of ours. This is U.S. Phenomenon. I'm your host, Mario Magania. Under the weather, but we will get through it. Um again, uh, tonight, or on this episode of this radio show or podcast, which you can find. You will be able to watch it as well if you go to onairmario.com. And if you are watching us, if you're not on one of our radio stations, you can go back and watch the podcast and watch the video. Tonight, on US Phenomenon, we're diving deep into the legends that refuse to fade. Our guest has been a longtime contributor of this radio show. Uh, Tom Seawood's a researcher, storyteller, and and and a mind behind Sasquatch Island.com and also helping out at SasquatchLed Legends.com. From eyewitness encounters decade to decades of Northwest lure, Tom has spent years uncovering the mysteries that surrounds the mystical mystery of Sasquatch. The unexplained, so buckle up. This is where the myth, the mystery, and the possibilities collide. It is my pleasure to welcome back to the show, Tom Sewood. Welcome back, man.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, how are you doing? Hello to everyone listening.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, you know what's great. Um, so is it breaking news? I mean, we we got some really uh I you know, congratulations on on your behalf. I heard that you have some really amazing news that you want to share with the listeners and people who may be watching or listening.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, I manage SasquatchAlegeend.com here in Forbes, Washington, out on the Olympic Peninsula, Sasquatch Hotspot. And uh friend phoned my wife last week and said, Hey, look at this. Some guys selling uh private collection of Sasquatch casts, all framed with pictures and provenance. And so we got a hold of them that night, committed that we'd uh you know, muscle up the money for what he wanted, and phoned him up and said, Okay, we're on our way to Moscow, Idaho to pick it up. We drove out and uh bought the whole collection except for two that had already sold, but we already have duplicates of them. Yeah, but they're gonna be put in the back of SasquatchLegend.com for the museum opening of June 1st, is what we're going for. And it's gonna be a phenomenal collection of the casts that we purchased, the ones we already have, and then the killer stones I have of Sasquatches I've gathered through the years when I used to live and work in the bush of coastal British Columbia, and my masks and native regalia we use during the Sasquatch conferences that can also be used at our potlatch ceremonies of Junafa, the Sasquatch, and of course the little people, they're gonna be in display cases in the museum, as well as our eight and a half foot sculpture replica of a Sasquatch called Biggie. So it's big news.
SPEAKER_01:That's great news. So you you heard it here first. June, so sometime in June, you guys are gonna open up June 1st, hopefully. Okay, so uh June 1st, mark it on your calendars. I'll tell you what, we don't take the show on the road, but we're gonna take the show on the road. We're gonna come. I even even asked him yet. We're gonna come out and we're gonna do the show out there. So we'll come out, we'll absolutely yeah, we'll come out there, we'll do a whole thing, we'll do the show out there. I don't know, are you guys doing any like will be a grand opening or will you guys do like a conf like a round table like like how we've done before, like a mini conference, or are you gonna tie it into any other type of situation that may be going out there?
SPEAKER_03:Well, seeing as I help develop and host the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, I've got to go big or stay home, so we'll be making it big. I don't know what we'll do. Okay, you know, I'm thinking of uh closing the one block of the highway like we do for parades and other events and forks, and hopefully we'll do that, and then they'll invite food carts and vendors and the whole nine yards and have a big Sasquatch. Grand opening of the museum.
SPEAKER_01:And I I know there's a small radio station out there. I forget the the the call letters of the news station out there. I don't even know if anybody's on it anymore. But um so for those who may be interested and you want to go, please email Tom or send me an email or text us 775-990-5151. So we can get you dialed into this whole on how you can get to be a part of this grand opening uh festivity. So send me a text and I'll relay it to Tom and we'll go from there. So if you're interested, if you're a huge Sasquatch person, Tom has you know it's funny that uh Tom, we haven't had a chance to talk, and I think I sent you a text a while back, and apologies if you're listening on the radio, hearing me sniffle and whatnot. But my sister had a chance, her and her girlfriends were uh in uh came into in the town from the east coast from when she went to college, and they ended up going to Forks, Washington, and uh they were going out there for uh obviously uh uh they weren't going out there to go see Sasquatch, they were really going out there to see Twilight, right? And so and so as I was telling them, I was like, you gotta go to the mu you gotta go to, you know, you gotta go over to the the Bigfoot store, you gotta go see Sasquatch Legends, you gotta go over there and see Tom. I don't I don't know if you're working that day, but I think there was like four girls all showed up.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, well we have a big at the corner of our stores Twilight merchandise. We sell all kinds of unique items that the other stores can't carry because we make it in-house at Source One plastic displays in uh Arizona and Alabama, the owners that own the Sasquatch Legends.com have a plastic acrylic company times two. So we got unique one-off Sasquatch stuff, of course, and Twilight stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Tom, are you how excited are you about this? I mean, this to have these these new items that you were able to purchase, these these casts, these um um of uh Bigfoot's of Sasquatch's uh feet, right? The imprints of the cast models of of of of the legendary Bigfoot Sasquatch.
SPEAKER_03:Well, what's unique about it, and I didn't know until uh we were actually there, but he filled me in that what he did 16 years ago is reach out to Dr. Jeff Meldrum and say, Can I get a replica of the Bosburg print and this print and that print? And Jeff, of course, oh yeah, for this much money, I'll make them for you. So he started making replicas for this guy's collection, and you can tell they're Meldrums because he put a gray powder into the plaster, so it's got that unique dark gray color to it, darker than concrete. So having Jeff Meldrum make those replicas for his collection, you know, it's outstanding. Jeff was a good friend of mine, and you know, unfortunately, he's no longer with us, but you know, we kept the collection in its entirety except for two that he sold a few days before we got there. But uh, you know, that's what he wants. He wants he said, you know, I want now I can bring my grandkids there and show them. This is used to be my collection, but now it's been bought by this sasquatchlegend.com and they have it in their museum. You know, it's really gonna set it off. You know, we even have uh from the Paul Freeman Walla Walla, Washington, we got a few different tracks, knuckle prints, hand print, and we even got a Sasquatch butt print where it sat down in mud and Paul casted it. It's about I guess maybe about that big. Got some booty, that Sasquatch.
SPEAKER_01:Well, for those who are maybe Tom, you when you do the hand gesture, how you would say it was a large imprint.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, a lot bigger than my back end, probably bigger than mine as well.
SPEAKER_01:So I gotta ask you, as as it's been a while, and I know you guys have been doing amazing things over there at Forks. And is this normally your slower time of the season, the winter, or do you guys stay busy?
SPEAKER_03:We're slow this time of the year, you know, like deathly slow some weekdays. Weekends were do pretty good because everyone coming for the Twilight Museum being open. And uh, but you know, we catch up and stuff at work. I'm a native artist, so you know I get to you know let the kids go take my shift so I can stay home here and you know make more money per hour by doing my you know native art originals. I actually just sold uh two salmon and four herring on a bowl that was 11 inches by 11 inches, made lathe turned out of Douglas Fur, uh gentleman here in Washington State. He's bought his second bowl he's bought off me. So that was nice to see that PayPal come in today and ship it out. And so art's a big thing. I'm specializing in Sasquatch art, of course. You know, the house behind me, all the designs you see, and many more you can't see, are all the originals that I've created for our t-shirt line, mugs, cups, shower curtains, bath mats, the list goes on. And uh, you know, it's the best part though is investigating. Right now I would be on a freezing my butt off at an acreage of over 300 acres owned by a pioneer family here on the peninsula, half an hour drive down the road with uh Shane Corson from the Olympic Project and one of my team members, Steve. I'd be with them right now, sitting around a campfire, secluded. They're gonna camp there tonight. Uh Steve brought along our$40,000 worth of night vision gear. Uh Shane brought all his stuff, audio recorders. List goes on, and they're set up, and hopefully they're gonna record something tonight. If not, they're gonna freeze for sure. But you know, it's on like Donkey Kong out here, and you know, it's so much Sasquatch reports come into my store and by cell phone, email, messenger, that uh my wife and I have had to put a rule. We will only investigate within half an hour of this house and the store two blocks from here because we can't be wasting gas and time driving down the Lake Quinault, hour away. Sure, macaw territories, which isn't my turf anyway, but uh you know, I don't want to go up there because it's too far. Yeah, and you know, just staying here within a half an hour of the house, it's on like Donkey Kong, and I'm doing expeditions here.
SPEAKER_01:You know what's crazy, Tom, to think that everywhere, I mean, you know, you've been doing this for such a long time, you know where the hot spots are, you know where you're you where you've been able to get close or be able to have these encounters that you've had and shared with us in the past. It's interesting how much activity is going on over there at the peninsula, as you're just you know sharing with us right now. Um on an average day, how many do you think how many people are sending messages to you?
SPEAKER_03:I wouldn't say a day, a week. I'll get two or three every week solid. And uh, you know, now that people are getting to know me in town, I've been here 21 months now managing the store. And uh, you know, I'll go to the grocery store like I did last evening, and some guy walked up to me fully cameled out, and he goes, Hey, I've got a Sasquatch report for you. And you know, he starts chattering away like a Sasquatch, telling to be about when he had Sasquatches, you know, around him. He didn't see them, but he could definitely hear them tree breaking, tree shaking, uh whooping and screaming while he was out elk hunting. So, you know, and you know, walk in the drugstore in Forks, lady there, she's me and my husband are coming back from Port Angeles, and you know where Miles Marker 4 is? I said, Yeah. And she goes, Yeah, well, we saw a big Sasquatch walk across the highway. So it's just steady with the report.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. And and what's so what's what's so cool, Tom, is um like people just are just coming up to you. They feel comfortable enough. And and if you recall when we did that show, also show and round table in in Buckley, how everyone was so appreciative of the event. It was free.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um people came in, they had a great time. But you know what was something that really stuck out with me was that individuals kinda came up to us and thanked us and said, Thank you for having this. Thank you for giving us an open forum to be able to have this conversation. Because there were people out there that were they don't want to be judged, right? You're like, uh people are like, ooh, yeah, they think you're crazy. And we gave everyone a forum, and the place was packed. You know, they and um and that's what I loved uh that the that we were able to create something for a local business and it just blew up. I mean, there was standing room only, people were standing in areas they weren't supposed to be in. Of course they let them, obviously, you know, the owner of the of the brewery allowed him to be uh able in these other areas that were kind of forbidden. But man, we had that place packed out, which was fantastic. And I hope that we'll be able to do that for your grand opening. Um, you know, I'll work on some you know, some stuff on my end. Like I said, if you're interested and you want to go and hang out at the museum on the grand opening, send me a text, 775-990-5151. Tom, what's been going on around outside of Forks? Like any other hot spots? Have you been getting stuff around Mount Rainier? I I've heard there there were inklings of who the hell did I see someone posted somewhere on TikTok video or audio of Sasquatch. I was like, I don't know, I couldn't tell. I don't know. I had I should have sent it to you, but I did not. I was like, I don't know if that's real or not.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, my algorithms on TikTok, Facebook, they're pretty well taken care of me, so I'm seeing all of the different uh posts that are coming up, Sasquatch, Bigfoot related. And you know, I watch them all, but the trouble nowadays is there's so much of that AI stuff out there. It's just, you know, you're just like gotta really scrutinize what you're seeing, and oh no, it's got uh haze line around it, it's pixelated, that's AI, so move on. Right. But get I get reports from British Columbia, quite a bit of activity up there through the fall and early part of winter. I haven't heard from any of the shellfish clam diggers yet. Um imagine they'll be hitting the water here with all the winter tides coming up, and this is clam season, so they're usually pretty good though. You know, the everyone's got uh Starlink now on their boat, so they'll be sitting there going, Yeah, we just got off the beach clam digging, Tommy. Yeah, thanks for messaging me and pinging my phone at two in the morning. What do you got? Oh, we had rocks thrown at us or whatever. So I get the reports constantly. And uh, you know, two months ago I was in Tacoma for the grand uh showing of uh David Piley's new movie American's Ask Watch. You know, first time I ever did a red carpet in my life. That was pretty cool. And I'm in six scenes on his movie. Uh Bigfoot a girl, of course, on Amazon Prime. I star on that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Last year, Expedition Bigfoot season six. I was in numerous episodes. That's where I went, Fear the Rogue, and I talked about the rogue's Sasquatches. And then all the well, I don't know how many. I got a look at my board right now, and I think I got half a dozen podcasts this month alone. And, you know, had one last night, you tonight, and I'm on another one tomorrow night. And you know, it's just, you know, I'm getting the recognition out there, and you know, it's because I do expeditions and I want people to make a pilgrimage to forks. Come into the store, buy one of my t-shirts with my native design. Some people are coming in, get me to autograph it and date it, and they bring it home somewhere in the U.S. and they'll send me an email where it's 300 bucks they paid to get it framed. And then there's my t-shirt along with the sign Gimlin or Meldrum or whatever. And you know, it's humbling. You know, it's really nice to see people making a pilgrimage to our store in Forks just to meet me and sit down and you know, chatter-chatter like Sasquatches about Sasquatch. And then there's the ones that book with me through Sasquatch Island.com, and I'm charging$375 all inclusive, and you get to have me cook three meals a day for you, and we go Sasquatch expedition day and night. And you know, you can't beat that. You get to stay in this house down the hallway. There is the Patty Room 1967. It's all autographed Bob Gimlin's pictures and t-shirt and other things, and Patty's cast prints and pictures of Patty. So, you know, who other person is offering an expedition for Sasquatch like that? No one.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody. Now, in May, there did are there still are you guys doing that thing still up there? You wasn't there some conference, or you guys were doing some type of hangout in May? Was it early May?
SPEAKER_03:We usually did it on I think it's Labor Day or something in May. Yeah, or we didn't do it last year, and I don't we're not doing it again this year, maybe next year, but what I'm looking at doing is more uh how would you call it gatherings, yes? Like uh, so what I'm doing is we have three places that we're looking at announcing very soon where you paid you know like so many dollars. One of them is the Olympic Project compound. We just started talking about it yesterday, but Shane Corson said, Oh, yeah, I'm all down for that. What we're planning on doing is having Shane Corson, he has uh opens the compound up, has probably got six acres of grass, uh outhouses and so forth. And people can drive in there and set up their tent or their small trailer. We're gonna make it pretty uh strict that you can't come in there with a 26 or a 36-foot trailer.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, that's how that's how I'm rolling, you know, when I come when I yeah.
SPEAKER_03:No, you're on a Sasquatch expedition, you're not gonna have a flush toilet. But we're gonna have a gathering there, and then uh Sarah and Jonathan Brown with Sailor Sasquatch, they're working with me now, and with and uh they're gonna be there. So what we're envisioning. Is everyone comes there and uh we'll have area barbecues set up so that you can have it grab your plate and go there to that barbecue, or Tom's doing hot dogs and uh the Browns are doing maybe chicken, Shane's doing steak, and you get to sit there and you know bring your folding lawn chair and sit there talking to all of us. Man, I'll call us what we are. We're Sasquatch celebrities. You know, we've been at this for over a decade each, and doing a conference circuit, movies, television documentaries, podcasts, video casts, radio shows, editorials. I had ABC News come into SasquatchLegend.com yesterday and interview me for some travel show. So, you know, it's you know, when you got your face out there on everything, you know, you have to give the people what they want. Because I know in prior to 2015, I remember when I went to Sasquatch Summit and stood in the line for like 45 minutes, and I got to sit there and say hello to Jeff Melgium and buy his book for 20 bucks or whatever it was and get my picture. You know, I was starstruck. And that's why I want to do events where we bring you out, but instead of being a big conference of two days of speaker after speaker and all everything so scheduled and stuff. You can't have that one-on-one with the Sasquatch celebrities, that's what we're gonna give you. You're gonna be able to come there and drink wobbly pop's beer, whatever, around the campfire till whatever. And then if some people want to go on a rafting trip down the whole river, well, Steve, my team member from Sasquatch Island, he does commercial raft tours of the whole river, and we have found tree structures, caves, killer stones, trackways, just an amazing amount of Sasquatch stuff we've found, and we've even heard them. You know, we're going through the canyon one day, and you know, it's about 150, 100 feet up on either side, maybe 30 feet wide at that point, and very gradual, slow. We're just slowly going down, and Steve goes, You notice how quiet it is? There's no birds or anything. So I stood up, and you put your hands out like that. It's for Indians, you know, when you do that to a Sasquatch, you're basically saying nothing to fear. And when I stood up on the raft, yo, please ask Tunafa. Hello, I don't know who you are. How are you doing, Sasquatch? Nothing. No, no. How are you? Sakwa Sasquatch. And all of a sudden up on the hill, two different sasquatches vocalized. And Steve just looks at me. Keep talking Indian to them. And he goes, That was amazing. And I said, Oh yeah, they're just big hairy Indians. They said they understood that I was, you know, talking native language to them. And uh we never saw them, but hopefully we'll see them one day. We always got our cameras and everything.
SPEAKER_01:Right. You know, it's interesting. One of the one of the one of my favorite stories is the one you talk about, you know, going down you have you and your boat and the shellfish and them uh you know doing uh you having an encounter while you're on your boat and and them throwing rocks and the whole nine yards. To me, in this situation, because you're such a veteran, it's it it's intriguing to me because all of us who are just normal spectators, you know, like we want to see this. We're like it's almost like Deer and Headlights. We're like, what? Tom's like, hey, this is what we're doing. It's just like, hello, I how are you? You're talking to them and you you you you're able to just say, no, this is what we need to be doing. Where the rest of us were like, uh kind of like Deer and Headlights. Tom, in all the times that you've been doing this for 20 plus years.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, longer now, 45 plus years.
SPEAKER_01:So 45 plus years that you've been doing this, do you have a favorite memory or story that you like you're out of all of me? Like, this is the the creme to love creme of stories.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I've had so many encounters of them. For the listeners that they haven't heard me before, I lived in the bush for most of my adult life, 45 years roughly, commercial fishermen all over the British Columbia coast, going places most humans will never go. Grizzly bear hunting guides for over 20 years and other animals. Uh, hated humans in the 90s and uh early 2000s. So, and I hate Christmas, I think it's a waste of money and time. So I go watch login camps all by myself while the winter shutdown was on anywhere from 30 days to 90 days. And so I've you know been out in the bush most of my life, so I have a good grasp and understanding of how to look for Sasquatch sign, where to go, seasonal abundant proteins and foods, and you know, get to those isolated areas, and that's where I used to be. But one of my favorite encounters with them was when I went to Omaha, Nebraska, Indian Reserve, the Omaha Indian Reserve. I went down there with Peggy to investigate with one of the tribal uh Facebook group people who do expeditions. They invited us down. We went down on our own dime. We had a broken, rotten tree thrown at us, you know, about maybe that big a diameter with its rotten root wall got thrown at us that night. Saw some heard some vo uh mimics and uh saw some possible tracks. They're only there for two nights, but uh the guys who invited us, their sister was uh counsel on the chief and counsel's table. So they asked me to send a proposal to do a tourism analysis for the Indian tribe because that's why one of my specialties is eco-cultural tourism. So I sent the proposal, this is what I do, and so forth, and my prices. And they phoned me and said, Yep, we'll get you a round trip ticket, you'll be down here for two weeks. And I'm like, Yeah, okay. A few days later, off I was from SeaTac to Omaha, Nebraska, and got picked up and went to the reserve and worked all day long doing my contract, but at night, after a little fies, get out there and investigate with fleurs. And I guess it was the third night I was there. When I got there, this guy I was with, he was he was my sort of chauffeur and guide. I said, Hey, you got a fleur, don't you? I sing a box, and you go, Oh, yeah, it's in the back seat. Well, the back seat, because he had kids is filled with fast food stuff and garbage. Sure. Um, you know, oh he just said the fleur was there, so he picked me up about, I guess, a couple hours after dark, and we drove out of the camp, the complex I was at, two miles, three miles out of Macy, Nebraska, out of the town. I was out there and by myself on 11 cabins, no one else was in them. And uh, we pulled out of the campground and we're just going along the soybean field, and it rained the night before. So being from British Columbia, Pacific Northwest, you know, the ground's gonna be soggy. Well, as we're pulling out, I said, uh, where's that fleur? And he goes, Oh, it's in the back somewhere, so I'm digging around. I find the empty box, dig around to the garbage. There's a little green mono flur, so I grabbed it. I said, How do you turn it on? He goes, There's four buttons up top. You push one of them and it'll say calibrated. So being Indians, tear it out of the box, never read the instructions. I'm looking at it, and it's dark. Finally, I see it say it's calibrating, so he tells me what to do. And his window is open, you can't see with a flur through glass. So I looked through the driver's window, which is open. Yeah, and I'm like, Oh, this is pretty neat. And all of a sudden, I'm like, and I thought they were Indians. Well, they were, they were Sasquatches, they're Indians, but anyway, I'm like, holy smokes! I'm like, take a look. And the time I was looking, it was a pregnant female, was the closest one, and she was like big pregnant, and beside her on her left side walking, and they were going like this from my left to the right, was this big male, probably eight foot four, somewhere in there. It was big, but what really caught my eye was they had the hang lip chrome magnon fetal alcohol syndrome, Down syndrome type look, and this lethargic glazed donut face, and they're just lumbering along and didn't even look at the vehicle, even though the lights weren't pointing at them. Right. And the Indian tribe member I'm with, he gives me the fleur, and when I grab it, Mike, after he looked through for about 30 seconds, I look through and they'd done a 90-degree turn, and they're walking towards the edge of the field where the trees are, and you can see their back feet lifting up just like Patty. So you can see the entire bottom of their foot, sure, and they're just lumbering along and they just blend into the forest and they're gone. But you know, probably under a minute. We observed them, maybe a minute and a half, but it was amazing, you know, because no one ever reports about seeing a pregnant female or a female with a baby, it's very rare. Yeah, but I got to see a pronounced pregnant female and then their hanglet faces and that fetal alcohol syndrome look about them. It wasn't until later when I was Google Earthing Omaha Indian Reserve and being there and having so many you know encounters of vocalization, seeing trackways, hearing them mimicking. And I looked at Google Earth and I said, uh oh. And when I did my report for the tribe after I got home to Seattle, yeah, I recommended that they stop knocking the trees down and making fields and urban sprawl because the Omaha Indian Reserve, all around it, and it's a vast reserve, is clear-cut industrial mowed-down forests that are now industrial farms. Even across the Missouri River in Iowa, it's even worse. And what's going on in the Omaha Indian Reserve is interbreeding. They have they're stuck within that Indian Reserve, you know, and I don't think enough new blood's coming in. That's why they got that sort of chrome magnon dummy look about them.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. When you share the story, it was making me think about um something that there's so many people out here doing this, right? There's you, there are credible people. There are people out here that are making AI videos. Um do you feel like that's good for business or bad for business for you guys? I mean, do you feel like it's bringing attention awareness to what is Sasquatch? Or do you feel like the AI stuff is just borderline to the point where you're like, uh it's not really helping us out here by saying, oh yeah, well whatever this fake AI video is of audio or uh, you know, the pixelation of video. It's I don't get that as much. I know I don't because it's just not in my algorithm, but it's interesting to me that there is some of that AI starting to pop up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's but the Jesus Christ syndrome. So no offense, but the non-Indians that are out there, they perceive that Sasquatch has a biker beard. Looks like he came out of uh moonshine hillbilly camp, jumped off the back of a Harley. He's got this big heavy beard and big heavy mustache, right? And then uh when you look at it, when as soon as it has a beard like that, when in doubt, like John Brinderdagel taught me, when in doubt, throw it out, turf it. Yeah, and with AI, you know, I remember eight months ago when it first really was starting to pick up. Uh fellow investigator from Idaho, he was playing around with it, and for his books he makes, that's uh what do you call it? Uh Ray Harewood with his Sasquatch magazine. But anyway, he had some great pictures in there. But I told him, I said, Ray, they don't have biker beards, they don't have chimpanzee gorilla type open big flare slit noses. They have human noses, they're humans. He goes, Tom, it's not me, man. It's the AI program, you know. And I said, Where's the female ones? You know, and now you're just starting to see the female AI Sasquatch, but there's still the AI Sasquatch always has the biker beard because it's in the software and so forth, and always has the flared nose like a gorilla. So right away when you see that, throw it out. Throw it out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What do you think? Um, and I I I know that we've we've gone back and forth about this, Tom, and you know, when I I've had other people come on the show in the past. I I've always I've always said this. I was like, I always believe that Sasquatch is indigenous to the planet, not you know, someone as a UFO or cloaking or going as an alien, you know. Excuse me, you're starting you're starting to see people share their other the other versions of what they believe Sasquatch is, and why are there stories that people are pushing that are of another of some type of other life form of not being indigenous to the planet if they're like they think Sasquatch cloaks or goes into like the tree and is gone. Why why are we why do we get those types of reports where people think that Sasquatch is not indigenous to this planet? And I know you've you've worked with these people in the past.
SPEAKER_03:Why do you think we get I look at always follow the money? So you're sitting there, you didn't have a prom date in high school, you know, you got picked on in high school, you weren't in the number one group sports or rugged sure creakers we called ourselves back in the day. We were the pot smoker, cigarette smoking, drinker, partiers, fighting each other. That's a gang I ran with. And you know, you saw the LERPs and the geeks and brainiacs and everything else, and then all of a sudden, you know, life comes after high school, and they're still not getting attention. But then they get interested in Sasquatch, and then they notice that wow, a lot of the woo-woos, the orb-turning believers, cloakers, portal jumping, UFO flying, glyph laying, mind-speaking people are starting to get on the docket for the conferences more and more. Yeah. And the podcasts and the video casts, and why is that? Yeah, why is it well because when you're got a bean farm and you're selling beans, well, if you're canning them and selling them or drying and selling them, well, you stick to one label. You're gonna go bankrupt. But if you get different labels and different canning companies to can your beans, you're gonna make profit. And that's what it's all about. The facilitators of everything Sasquatch related, which is the industry, they need that diversify or die. It's a business model that has to be followed. So you can't just have all critters like me. You got to bring in the woo-woo. And some of the conferences now are 100% woo-woo. And you know, I have the Sasquatch Island, my Facebook group. I have rules, and there's absolutely no woo-woo to be commented or spoken about, period. And if you do, I'm gonna block you. Simple as that. I exercise the block option because then if I don't, then the woo-woo's gonna go, oh, but Tom, it it turned into an orb. Twice I've seen that, and I've seen them cloak before, too. And then I got to sit there and get in a debate with them. You know, there's a wall between the Critteris and the Woo-woos that Donald Trump couldn't build. And it's got to stay like that and will stay like that. And, you know, it's because I got to stay focused. If I start reaching out to people who believe in the UFO flying, mind, squeaking orb, turning portal, jumping, cloaking, sasquatch, then I'm not crispy. I'm not focused on the critterist aspect, and I'm trying to pursue a critter that I can hopefully sit down after gifting and have a Diane Fossey, Jane Goodall interaction with them and videotape the soles of their feet, their mouth as they're biting into an apple, the movement of their eyes as they walk out of shadow into sunlight. And when it's all recorded up close, and audio and DNA samplings hopefully taken, you know, maybe it's not me, it'll be someone else who hopefully does it at that level. And then when the doctors come in that study dentures and teeth, and chipping and staining, and muscle movement on the face, and eye dilation of the pupils, and iris movement, and the epal, the what do you call those epidermal ridges on the bottom of the foot? And maybe there is or maybe there isn't a mid-tarsal break, because you know we don't know for sure yet. And it's basically been hypothesized through tracks that were cast. And so when you do have that, you can prove if you show it like Diane Foskey and Jane Goodall did, you know, the people believed them because they had journals, photographs, videos of mountain gorillas and chimpanzees. And uh Jane Goodall was able to come out and conclusively confirm with her journal entries or photographs and her videos that we hairless bipedals aren't the only tool users in the animal kingdom. Chimpanzees use sticks and the ant hills to get the ants and eat them. And so that's what I look at, and that's my quest is to get that hopefully interaction. And you know, but I can't be contaminating it with things I don't believe in. And the reason why I don't believe it, you know, I've had two encounters with Sasquatch where I've been within 10 feet. I've had four encounters where I've been within 25, 30 feet, and I've had up to 30 encounters when I knew they were around me when I was out in the bush or on a beach, didn't see them, could smell them, could hear them, saw their tracks, saw their tree breaks and everything, you know, heard a tree break, went investigated, there's a fresh tree. You can see the fibers still springing out on it. So keeping it crispy and not clouding it with the other aspects that may or may not be a characteristic or attributed to a Sasquatch. First off, we got to identify that they do truly exist. Then we can get in, as Dr. John Bindernagel taught me. Then we can dwell into the possible other characteristics and elements the Sasquatch might have.
SPEAKER_01:I ask you this, Tom. I and I know that you know this individual, Ron Moorhead, in regards to his Sierra Sounds. Do you find because I know that I've interviewed him multiple times and the Sierra Sounds went from his sounds. Has his story changed over the years in regards to how like it originally he got if if if he originally thinks that he has evidence of Sasquatch vocalization? I'll be honest with you.
SPEAKER_03:But I do know that two of the sounds I've heard Sasquatches make.
SPEAKER_01:So he's that's on Sarah Sounds. Okay, so his you you believe that his recordings are of Sasquatch.
SPEAKER_03:Two of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Because I've heard Sasquatch make that vocalization. I can't say the rest. I've never been to Northern California investigating Sasquatch.
unknown:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:Because it's just like in every Sasquatch has a different language. I was just gonna say, yeah, it just like different tribes have different languages.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they are different, they are the other tribes, right? Well so I speak Quakula a little bit, I speak a tiny bit of Cree. My mother's Cree, my dad was Quakwagiwa. Um, I know more French and Latin than I do my native tongues, but I've heard people speak in different native languages. You drive Vancouver Island, there's four different dialects.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Or six different dialects on Vancouver Island alone from the tribes. You travel British Columbia, I think there's over 47 different dialects of the indigenous people in coastal British Columbia. So Sasquatches are no different, they're another tribe. They're just bigger, hairier, have nocturnal vision, retain their ability to excrete from their armpit glands when they feel threatened or intimidated. They have language, they have laws, very strict laws. They sing, they hum, they mourn, and you know, they fear. And but the one thing with Sasquatch is they're in harmony with nature and the environment. But you know, listening to the different recordings, like uh Julie Wrench out of uh South Carolina in the Uary Forest, you know, her and her husband were getting all kinds of audio recording, and she was sharing it with me up until about three years ago because we kind of drifted apart. I should reach out to her. But anyway, listening to the audio loops that she sent me, I'm just like, wow, they speak a whole different dialect than the Pacific Northwest Sasquatch.
SPEAKER_01:Excuse me. Uh fighting a cold, but when we talk about Sasquatch and we talk about the evolution of like the the lifespan of a Sasquatch, which we don't know. At least I don't.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, we know. Shamans know.
SPEAKER_01:So what is a lifespan? If some like uh like the average listener may or viewer may not know, what what is it?
SPEAKER_03:Average 80 to 100 years, 120 years. Old ones, 150. Some of them 180, pushing almost 200, the white and the gray ones. And when I learned this from an Omaha shaman lady after four or five days interacting with her and uh learning a pile of knowledge, I said, How do you get so old? She turned around, slapped me, just like a Sasquatch slaps their young and stupid, and goes, Haven't you been listening to me all these days? Sitonga, we call Sasquatch, keeper the medicine. We shamans sometimes will if our shaman dies and didn't pass on all the knowledge, someone from the tribe has to step up and say, I volunteer. And they walk into the bush and two, three, four, some cases, six years, they come back out of the bush and they go, I'll be the shaman now. What they were doing was interacting with the Sasquatch in their territory that they share with Sasquatch in Sidon of our creations, Sasquatch and Indian tribe. And they learn the medicinal remedies from the Sasquatch. And that's why Omaha called them Sitonga, keeper of the medicine. And they have, like that shaman told me, they have forgotten more about the local remedies from plants and roots, flowers, and other things than we will ever know. And after I pursued researching more Indian tribes, interacting with them, reading, I found that it's pretty much indicative of most tribes. Someone from the tribe would interact with them. And I've been in a few places on other tribal territories where, oh yeah, my dad, you knew we used to know when we were kids when dad went for his walk-aboat with the sasquatches, right? His three pairs of shoes, boots would be on the porch. Dad would leave barefoot, and a couple weeks later he'd show back up and like nothing happened. But when I met this gentleman, he was like that at the table and we're having lunch, and he was son got up and went and did something because it was his restaurant. I looked at that man, same age as me, and I said, Oh, you've lived with the you're feral. I could see it in your eyes. I know it because I was feral for a time. I got so sick of humanity, I just walked into the bush and away I went. Weeks on end, a few months. I did live out there, work out there. Sometimes I just stay out there. And winter time, when I got cold, go watch a login cap. And you know, just the bush is bliss. If it wasn't for that ring Peggy gave me, I'd probably be out there right now when I blew my right knee out 21 months ago instead of managing SasquatchLegend.com, living in a beautiful company accommodation home, and you know, but cards stacked up for me in my favor, you know. I got pickup truck, I got Olympic Peninsula, rainforest all around me, beaches on either side of me, and prime Sasquatch territory. So I've learned that Eke Gekame, my creator in my language, God, as some people call him, but Eke Gekame gave me gifts, and he gave me the gift to be able to do art, to retain legends and stories and history from anyone, but mainly from the native people I grew up with, my family and other tribes. So that when I was a commercial fisherman for those many decades, my lifetime, and I'd end up in places like where Les Stroud went because he got the idea for me. Go to Clem 2 to Kittasu Heihei people. It's on like Donkey Kong for Sasquatch there. Except the Indians up there didn't want Les to find a Sasquatch. They put him up at the lake. Didn't know Sasquatches that time of the year up there. I could tell by the foliage and everything that he was at the wrong spot. He should have been on Shellfish Beach around that territory. Then he would have found Sasquatch. And then going to other places and being a hunting guide for decades. And you know, I was able to live like a Sasquatch, be close to them. And now I like to coin that I guess 60 years old now, I guess I'm the Sasquatch shaman. The I've learned so much from them, and I'm bringing it forth to the hairless bipedals. That's why I do so many podcasts and conferences, video casts, radio shows, the list goes on, because my knowledge, you know, every now and then I'll feel my heart. You know, I've had two heart attacks already, and I always think, where's my nitrile? Oh, okay. It's in the bathroom, the drawer, it's in my nightstand. Oh, there's one over there. And because it's just a matter of time, I'm gonna be like that uh good actor from Sanford and Sun. Oh no. It's the big one. I'm coming. Yeah, but you know, it's that day is gonna come. People know that. That's why they buy my t-shirts and get me to autograph it and sign it, you know, because they know that I'm gonna be tits up six feet under pushing daisies here within 10 or 20 years. And when that day comes, my art, like when I did that bowl today and mailed it out, I had to put together a five-page letter of provenance so that that rich gentleman who bought that bowl for a thousand dollars. When I do calf out, he can always bring it to the art galleries and say, Here's the letter of provenance. I bought it for a thousand. Oh, yeah, we can sell that sort of five to eight times what you bought it for 20 years ago. Yeah, that's why people buy art, they invest. And what do you like? We can only wish we could go on a porthole and show up in Italy and say, Mike, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, I'll buy those drawings off you, but sign them and sign this letter of Provenance and jump back in my porthole and go to a gallery in New York and go, here's the Provenance, everything. It comes directly from Michelangelo and Da Vinci. Oh, we can get saucepes on the phone and they'll take 30%, but I'm sure it'll go for over 10 million. You know, that's why you buy art.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Our guest tonight, Tom Seawood, uh Sasquatch Legends, Sasquatch Island.com. Tom, uh, we we're gonna come out there for your grand opening for the uh um for the grand opening of the museum and uh come and hang out. We'll do a show there, hopefully it'll be on a weekend. Um but we'll we'll make we'll make we'll make we'll make it out there this year and uh we'll make a big to-do out of it. And what I would say to listeners, if you're interested in hanging out with Tom and you want to go to this event that is not even penciled in yet, but we're this is this is going to happen. Send me a text, 775-990-5151. You can always go to his website to stay in on top of this at sasquatch island.com. Uh Tom Seawood, our guest this evening. Tom, it's always a pleasure. But I gotta ask you something, and I don't know because I try not to uh watch a lot of other stuff going on. You I I always bring this up and and do are we this and this is me asking this and I you know I don't know what other I I don't know what he or other shows are you know people doing the missing Formula One But these people that are going missing in these national parks it's gotta be Sasquatch, right? Or these human ferals that are living out there in the bush in the in the national forest.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you can't jump to a conclusion, you gotta look at the percentages, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:A hundred people go missing, the big percentage of them, 60% or more, will be attributed to stupidity or natural causes. Yeah, they both lumped into the same one. Twisted an ankle, fell off a cliff, broke a hip, boom, gone, starved, died of thirst.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Animal gets them, you know, that's a knot, you know, end up being a steaming turd in the forest.
SPEAKER_01:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:But 100% of them that go missing, they will all turn into turds. Critters will eat them. But there's a small percentage that didn't fall in the river and get swept down and stuck in a log jam and decomposed, and the critters ate them, crayfish and so forth, and the bones settled down on a deep hole to never be seen again.
SPEAKER_01:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Or they fell into a crevice and they're never going to be seen again. And but the every one of them got eaten by many critters. But there's that small percentage, and I think it's probably around five to eight percent, and that's just BS speculation because I have nothing, no data to base it on. Sure. But there is that small percentage, five to eight percent, we'll say, that ended up getting taken out by a Sasquatch or a clan of Sasquatch that are cannibals. They like eating beans, human beings. Why? Because we're stupid and slow and easy to catch, that's why. And most of the people that go in the bush aren't like me, bush savvy. They're, you know, wearing their REI mountain equipment co-op. They got their bear bell, they got their pack sack with a hose in a water bottle, something sucky sucky, take a drink.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:You know, they don't go out, you know, like we do, and they end up getting taken out by Sasquatch because they're easy prey. And, you know, we know that I've been hearing rumors that there's three missing people on the Olympic peninsula in the last five years, and they attribute those ones to Sasquatch. Vancouver Island, we have three missing people on there. You just go to Vancouver Island Missing People, or even British Columbia missing people. You want to see missing people in the bush, you go to British Columbia Missing People on Facebook, it'll enlighten you about how would a young muscular guy like that with a little bit of Bush skills end up missing? And so Sasquatches, if it's five to eight percent out of a hundred, that's five or eight people. Out of a thousand, it's fifty to eighty, ten thousand. So when you do the math at small percentages, that Sasquatch will possibly taking them out and turning them into Sasquatch steaming turds on the forest floor, you know, it's scary. That's why I never go in the bush without a gun.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and and my question to you, I know in Washington State it's illegal to to shoot or to hunt uh Sasquatch. Um, we can thank the the governor uh Dick Dixie Ray for that for that one. Um I bring this up because I think the most intriguing missing story was the Sam DeBull 2000 whatever 2021 2020. Yeah, I just had started the show. This individual went missing, he was a professional, and he was on the Mawitch mu uh trail uh of Mount Rainier, and the only thing they found, and I guess he had his pack and everything, was just water bottle. He found nothing else. And I'm like, what the hell happened to all his stuff? You know, I don't know if he fell under a crevasse or whatever the case may be in his in his circumstances. People saw him, but why only his water bottle? Where did his stuff go? Where did you know what I mean? Like it just is intriguing to me that that is the only piece of his existence was a water bottle. It's crazy to me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, you look at you know, you just have to reflect back to the early 1900s to Robert Ostrom, I think he was, up in Pewte Inlet, Toba Inlet, British Columbia, across from Vancouver Island Central. You know, he smart guy. He went in a sleeping bag with his gun, his coffee, his snuff, bullets, and uh that Sasquatch came and grabbed him, threw him over his shoulder. Hours later, cramped up, he gets released, and there's the wife and the two children, male and female. He had to break away with that from that Sasquatch when he took the big snort of his tin of snuff, and then he handed him his hot coffee, and the Sasquatch drank that and gave him enough time to bolt, get out of there. But right there. So, what you just said about that guy, you know, I suspect he was picked up with everything, got his pack on, and you know, you you know, if a Sasquatch didn't pop his neck like a duck, yeah, he'd probably on the back being held, or two of them dragging him. All of a sudden his water bottle breaks loose. You know, Sasquatch is, you know, backpack, you know, it's on your back. It's also got his waist chest strap. So went with him, and then they probably ripped it off of his clothes when they ate him. And you know, we know Sasquatches will bury things, they're dead included. But uh they've been knowing to bury stuff they don't want us to find. And probably dug a hole and buried that some deep part of the forest, up a mountain, side side of Mount Rainier, and no one's ever gonna find that backpack.
SPEAKER_01:Right. I think before we leave, uh we wrap things up here from the Pacific Northwest. One of my other favorite stories is the one that's on your website about the uh after the Mount St. Helens eruption. Will you guys be sharing that story uh on the grand opening? Will you guys be sharing that story? With the with the mill with the military guys finding um where they were picking up all the uh the game carcasses, the gaming cart, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I debunked that one, and I have been debunking it steadily. Okay, benefit of the doubt, knowing my sasquatches and you know, playing bush chess with them through the years, they're smart, they're humans. Yeah, they got well-developed frontal lobes, even though they got a conical head. That conical head has a lot of gray matter in it. And my family that live in Ariel, Washington, we adopted them in. It's called Leleuska Foundation. L E S O O K A Foundation. You look at Leleuska Foundation, Ariel, Washington. Phone the Kelso Long or Kelso Longview Chamber of Commerce, will give you the contacts. But anyway, it's a big native cultural center with all my family's crests and regalia and everything, and they do performances. But they've been living there since uh late 60s. And during uh shaking and rumbling of Mount St. Helens, the family would sit there in the evening because Mount St. Helens is just south of them, and but they're out of the danger zone. Uh, but they would hear Sasquatches running to the north, vocalizing, making noise, family groups to them. So the Sasquatches knew because their oral history told them about what is it, 50,000 years ago when Mount Rainier blew its top, the Homa. They know what the negative ramifications of staying around a volcano were. They knew about the pyroclastic flows to oral history, so they DD'd out of there three points of the compass. There was no dead, burned sasquatches found by the military. I'd give them benefit of the doubt. Even our Indian stories tell us like when uh yeah Mount Rainier was rumbling, we knew not to come down here in our canoes. That was thousands of years ago. Yeah, smart archaeologists will tell you, oh no, Tom, you your people have only been here for about 18,000 years maximum, based on carbon dates. Oh yeah, go to Google Earth, take a look at the Pacific Northwest underwater, what you call a continental shelf, and you'll see the ancient rivers channels going way out into the Pacific. I know because I used to fish there with sounders for black cod down 6,000 feet and up. And we would fish those serpentine ancient river channels. And when we started putting the points on the chart, because that was my job, and I looked at my captain, I said, look, these are old rivers that come out of that inlet. So when a mile thick ice was on the North American continent, like putting a cookie sheet and a big sponge and filling the cookie sheet up with water and then squeezing the sponge and letting it go, the cookie sheet almost dries up. That's what it was like during glaciation. So if you want to find the carbon dates that show sasquash and humans going back 100,000 years or more, it's off our shores in those ancient riverbeds that are under thousands of feet of water. And it's been proven scientifically by the archaeologists and anthropologists that that is the case. They find old villages a couple 300 feet up in British Columbia with dredges and roves and so forth. So for Sasquatches, I think they've been here as long as my native people, since the dawn of creation, hundred thousand years plus. So they know about Mount Rainier blowing its top. So that when Mount St. Helens was rumbling and shaking, they D'd out of there. They knew something bad was coming.
SPEAKER_01:Our guest this evening, Tom Seawood, uh tonight from uh Sasquatch Legends, uh from uh Sasquatch Island.com as well. Tom, uh, look at that. That's amazing. I love one of my designs. Uh if you have a chance, go to his website. He's got some amazing stuff there. Um, we're gonna come out. Again, if you want to hear stories from Tom Seawood and hang out with us on the grand opening of the Sasquatch Museum at uh Sasquatch Legends, send me a text, 775-990-5151. We'll get you on a list, your first name. Just send me a text, say, hey, I'm interested, because this thing is gonna be sold out.
SPEAKER_03:It you're you should take a look at the Forks Chamber of Commerce. Sure. There's a place called Moss Squatch, M-O-S-S Squatch, and it's I've been there. There's uh 11 yurts, high-end clamping, and four or five cabins, and he's got Sasquatch stuff all over. He's even got his moss garden looking like a big Sasquatch, torso, and head, and other things. So maybe we look at having an event there, rent all his cabins, and you know, have a have a big thing.
SPEAKER_01:And do something as we uh wrap things up here from the Pacific Northwest. Coming coming June, Tom Seawood's uh huge Sasquatch Museum at Sasquatch Legends. Uh Tom, it's always a pleasure and honor to have you on the show. I apologize for being under the weather. Uh so I thank you all for hanging out with us. As we wrap things up from the Pacific Northwest, I'd like to thank Tom uh from my entire team. Uh if you're out in Forks, Washington, please stop by Tom's uh spot there uh right off the highway. But go see him at Sasquatch Legends. Uh you can't miss it. The legend. Sasquatch the legend. The legend.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.com. Right there. Oh my shirt.
SPEAKER_01:There it is. From the Pacific Northwest, for my entire team, Sophia Magagna and myself, Mario Magagna. Oh, be sure to listen to the podcast as well. Uh which you can find on any of your favorite podcasting platform. Just go to onairmario.com, click on the podcast link to subscribe. Tom, thank you for hanging out with us as we wrap things up here from the Pacific Northwest. I gotta hit the button. Where is the button? Oh, where is the button? Uh we'll s be sure to look up at the sky. Wow, I am really out of it because you never know what you might see. Good night.
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