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What's up Vermont on this week's show we talk about the Greek Confucius a kinky summer soiree the newest village in Vermont the hay bub controversy the elves of Oktoberfest and How Matt and glow are the originators of the Burlington Airport? therapy dog program Welcome to Vermont ketchup with Matt. I'm Matt glow. I'm glow and I'm Adam We are a weekly rundown of everything happening in the Green Mountain State Happy Confucius Day. Wow. Getting his due. How many other things are in the same day? You know what I mean? He's getting coffee. I think today was coffee day. Today was coffee day. Everything C? Is that what he got? No, no, no. It's in alphabetical order. No, there's, okay, so we're already moving off Confucius. You're done with him. You're like, whatever. We don't want to listen to anything he has to say. and I think so. He's considered to be China's most famous teacher. I know. Oh, really? Yeah. So he's a teacher. Well, he's like the Chinese Socrates, which I'm sure they'd love to hear that. Was he Confucius first? Oh, no, he wouldn't be, no. No, I think it would be Socrates. 770 BC. Oh, so yeah. Hold on, hold on. We got a Confucius Socrates off. Okay, who was first? Who's the who? Socrates was born 399 BC, so Confucius was first. No kidding! So Socrates is the Confucius of Greece. Socrates is the Greek Confucius. Is it Chinese? No. Okay, never mind, the Greek, forget it. I'm at a party or anywhere, any situation, if someone says Socrates, I go, who? Oh, you mean the Greek Confucius. That's good. You're just waiting for that. Just waiting. Got that one chambered. It's ready to go. So, Glo, before we move off Confucius, and I will get to your question about the days, are you familiar with Confucius jokes? No. Confucius say ... I don't know. I don't know. You don't know this? No. I mean, but it's just mildly vague. remembrance of that. No, no, no. These are like slightly dirty dad jokes. Really? Confucius say, man who go to sleep with itchy butthole wake up with stinky finger. Really? You've never heard this? Now I have. I know I have. Now when you put it in that context, yeah. And I'm not gonna do it. In that language. In that, in that. Look, yeah, it's okay. I was like, I told myself I'm not gonna do the accent, but I did do the broken English. Confucius say, virginity like bubble. One prick, all gone. I think he likes it. Yeah. Bad dad jokes. Okay, now I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's like the original bad dad joke. Confucius say a man who throws dirt is losing ground. That's not offensive, no. It's actually true. Probably what he said. Confucius say, learn to masturbate, come in handy. Now I'm doing the accent. It's hard not to do it. I'm starting to do the accent. I feel like I'm slipping into like a something not oh, it's a great Confucius say sex on beach like American beer fucking near water That's good, it's pretty good. Yeah, that's a good one. All right glow your question How many of these other days do exists we're gonna move off? No how many in one day? There's a lot, there's a lot every day. Yeah, yeah. So how come you, why, how do you choose which is which then? Okay, because I want something that can like. Get a start, start a conversation. Yes, I want to like start talking about something that we would never talk about in any, we would never come up with Socrates is the Chinese Confucius, right? That would never happen. Nobody's ever come up with that. But we did, yeah. So here's a, so here's another, I'll do rapid fire glow. you let me know if you have any thoughts on these. German Butterbrot? What about it? I mean ... Happy German Butterbrot Day? Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. Today is also German Brotterbot? Butterbrot, which I guess means butter bread. Oh, that sounds like a sausage, actually. No, I mean, what the picture here is a piece of bread with butter on it, so I'm just making a context clue here. It's called bread and butter. Yeah, a simple piece of toast and your favorite high-quality butter. That's it? And they get a day for that? The Germans are simple folks, I don't know. International Day of Awareness of Food Loss and Waste. That's boring. That day's always a bummer. So it's Coffee Day and Starbucks Day. I wonder how they got that one. International Happy Goose Day. Does that mean two goose or... To goose? Or not to goose? What do you mean, like a goose? Yeah, when you get goosed. And there's a reason why they came up with that, you know. Because you... when you get goosed? When you goose somebody, do you make that noise? When I goose somebody? I don't goose anybody. No, I thought the person getting goosed makes that noise. Oh, okay. Why did they come up with it? Because geese go after you and they'll bite you in the ass. That's what goosing is? Well, that's how I know what a goose does. I mean, because I've been chased by a flock. Talking about goose or men? Geese. Geese. When I was a kid, my parents, when they I guess when they were happily married, had a magnet on the refrigerator with a goose. And it said a little goose in the kitchen ain't bad. So Goose is just a little grab, pinch, a poke. It's like a, yeah, it can be a poke. Yeah, it can be a poke. It's like a see you later kind of thing. But should be consensual. Yes, absolutely. It's ask a stupid question day. I feel like that's the theme of the show. It's world heart day. Save the koala day. We can get behind that. Yeah. Do they need saving? I don't know. I've never met them Maybe they're not worth saving. I Mean, they're cute Rip your face. Oh, yeah National Biscotti Day Really? Mid autumn festival. Oh, yep Mid autumn festival. Oh mid autumn festival. I thought Santa almost like a saint And it's International Week of Happiness at Work Well, that's great. So you see what I have to work with, Glo? You see why I picked Confucius? I like National Confucius Day. Yeah. We get to hear the jokes. I have a whole list. He was a funny guy, that guy. Man who pushed piano down mineshaft likely to get a flat minor. That was a thinker. That's more of a thinker. It's more of a thinker. All right, moving on, good news. We're number one. We're number one in something. In underage drinking. Yeah. That was really surprising to me, that Vermont's number one in underage drinking. I would think it would be down south. Me too, or Alaska, or some place where ... It's worse than here? I thought we would be number one in weed, opioids. I don't think of this as being like a rowdy, drunken state. Maybe the country folk are a little different. Maybe. Because, yeah, I don't really see that here in Burlington that much. You know, rowdy kids, drunken kids or anything. Over 14% of people aged 12 to 20 engage in underage drinking, engage in binge drinking, we should be consuming four or more alcoholic beverages in a single session. Wow. I mean we drank wine at the dinner table since I was a baby but that sounds like a lot. That's... Wait a minute. Doesn't make any sense. I don't understand this. So Vermont is number one at 14% but Rhode Island is number two at 22%? Maybe Maybe it's according to the size of the site or the population. It doesn't make any sense. Unless it's a typo. Maybe it's 24%? Yeah. I bet you that makes more sense. Yeah. Wow. Imagine you're writing the story, you make a typo in the most important statistic and no one catches it. All right. Yeah. I don't get how that is possible. But yeah. So the top five, in case anyone's wondering, it is Vermont, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and Oregon. So all New England plus Oregon. Which is kind of like New England, right? Yes. Yeah. That's like a hippie haven kind of place at one time. Yeah. Still is. Yeah. And the low, you probably guess the lowest state. You think about it. Utah, yeah, yes, I was just rats you stole it. Yeah, what's their percentage? 11 so you imagine it's twice as much that nobody wants to admit it Actually the lowest is Mississippi really This does this is not making any sense. This doesn't confirm my stereotypes, so I don't believe it Mississippi come on And we're and who's generators is that like the newspaper? I've never heard of some website. Oh, sorry. I'm on the wrong one. No, you're right. You're on the right. Well, that's a story of something called Generators. According to Addiction Treatment magazine, which is reading that. Never heard of it either. I don't think it's for you. All right. We're moving on. Vermont, get it together. All right. Moreau, Matt, were you surprised to hear Monroe is not going to seek reelection? I was. Were you? I am not. You know, you had some inside skinny? Liz told me. What does that mean? She told you today? After she announced it? I love just like giving Glow a headline news, like, psst, I got the inside scoop. Look who's considering running. Oh, is this something we want to say out loud? Because you know, it's in a newspaper. Who is it? It's Madison. It's somebody who we pets it for. Oh, yeah. Good for her. Think she'd be a good mayor? I think so. Yeah. What kind of dog does she have? Should we air it out or should we keep it personal? Personal. OK, we won't air it out. But dog owner checks that box, right? Yeah. Pet owner, I should say. Pet owner. Pet owner. Yeah, good for her, I like her. Oh yeah, I think she would do well. Only because I just know her, obviously. Sure, there's some bias there. Yeah, Matt, I was kind of surprised, but then I stepped back and I was like, wait a minute. When people that I hang out with outside of y'all, especially colleagues at work, talk about how downtown has gone to S. Like, I mean, the city's kind of gone down pretty quickly in the last, what, two or three years? I think so. So, guess who's, I mean, that's his fault. He wasn't gonna get reelected. No, that's probably true. You know, why run in knowing that. But who's gonna win, a progressive? That almost seems like. Well, I hope not. So, it's not gonna be a Republican. No. What is she? What's her? It doesn't say. Joan Shannon is another one, she's a Democrat. I like her too. Yeah, I like her. And Elma Mulvaney Stanek, who I. All women, huh? Yeah, so far, that's three. That's interesting. Well, we'll see. I mean, I would imagine the number one issue is homelessness. It's gotta be. Or homelessness slash housing. Yep. Because it's obviously, you can't afford to live here, And why would you want to right? And there's so many people on the streets so much drug addiction Whoever gets in there. It's gonna have a really tough job Yeah And I don't have any advice for him because I don't know anything But it has gone down very quickly You know and it you know, it's nothing like when I first moved here in 1990 I mean, it was a perfect little town. I used to drive out here just to walk up and down Church Street, and it was an hour drive each way. Yeah, it was nice. But it's just like, you know, hundreds of other cities in this country. Right. Same thing. Right. It's not just us. It's not just the biggest city in Vermont. It's all over this country. You know, and it's happening in small towns, too. You know, this country's like going to hell and nobody even notices, or they're all fighting over the wrong things. Right, I think that's a better way to put it. I think the problem is that no one, I have not heard a definitive, well, here are the reasons why this is happening. You know, it's like, you can't even be able to solve a problem if you don't understand it. Right. Like, what is it? Is it people, I mean, obviously it's a combination, But like where do you start you start with addictions you start with income inequality. Do you start with? unreasonable Rents and cost of living and shit like that like I don't know You raise wages Yeah, I don't know These are all bigger questions than I can answer But I know it's it's just it's all over this country right now. So and I don't know if anybody's come up with solutions you know better start looking to see if anybody has there must be some some there must be some city that's doing it right yeah yeah not here yeah what do you Utah yeah but also like what are they doing other countries like why is this not a problem in Oslo right you know I mean They're not better than us. Norwegians? Maybe cross country skiing. Well yes, we'll give them that. But yeah, it's time to start, you know, somebody looking around going who's doing this well and start following it. Because, you know, we're gonna start losing people. People are not gonna move here. Which is maybe a good thing, right? Yeah, actually I mean, I used to feel like I used to disagree with glow like now we have some space whatever Then I drove down Shelburne Road at 345 It took me about 20 minutes to get from the roundabout to crunch fitness Yeah, I know Now, you know what I'm talking about Right, because you were here, you know, 20 or 15 or whatever, 20 years ago, where it was like, yeah, it's very, very different. So even when I got here, you're like, it's too much. So, well, all the time together in Vermont, I think it's getting close to 30. I'm 27 years. So and that's when I lived in Middlesex. I used to drive to Burlington just to walk up and down Church Street. Do you remember that time we did the house tour with Vermont Preservation Vermont and the guy told us they wanted Church Street to work and they went on some trips of course. I'm sure paid by Colorado. They went to Colorado, they went all these other places and what they came back with because they also went to Disneyland is you have to have one organization in charge of making it lively, such as, you know, getting the entertainers like we used to have, remember? I mean, it was such a draw downtown. It was like high rope walking. Church Street Marketplace, it's called. Yeah, they run things, it was Ron something or other was running it for years. I mean, we don't go downtown much anymore, but I don't remember even the last, you know, couple times there was anything anymore happening. Not much. Maybe the jazz festival, but not there on the sidewalk. It has yeah, and they just had that uh What's it called it's not like the festival of freaks, but it's something fools Summertime it's always the summer. Oh, yeah. They have these things they still have them But it's it's just doesn't have the same vibrancy that it once had down there. You know But I've been here so long and you probably have too, when Route 7 was two lane. Yeah, soon after I moved to Burlington, they expanded that section of Route 7 to become now four lane. And so many of those businesses went out of business because of that, because it took them so long. So yeah, that's another thing that you missed out on, was watching Route 7 being widened to increase more traffic. And then what about further down? They had to cut down a lot of trees, take people's front yards away because they needed to have shoulders, according to some federal things. It's a good thing they did it. That's all I can say. Let's move on. So you know what Confucius would say about this? That's a rhetorical question. No, but do you have one? Yeah, he would say, Confucius say man who drop watch and toilet have shitty time Moving on he's coming on the Confucius show All right moving on to I mean, this is the story of the week, right? I'm just gonna read the headlines. It's so great a clothing optional camp hosted a kinky summer soiree Campers awoke to the crack of gunfire First of all, let's just break down this headline Kinky, great, any time you can use that. Soiree, love that. The crack of gunfire, that's a loaded word, right? That is. It's not the sound of gunfire, they're not trying to save space, they're trying to, the bantandre. Written by Rachel Hellman. Good job, Rachel, you did it. So, there's this organization called, called, what was it, the Black Beard Endeavors. And all they wanna do, Glo, is have kinky-minded, sex-positive fun. I wonder what that means. It could mean anything. Well, it's funny you should ask. So they held an event at this place in, where was this, Matt? Standard. Standard. Northeast Kingdom. So Glo, a couple things you might encounter at one of these events. A dildo toss. Oh I see, okay, so it's almost like just making fun of that, you know, the whole thing against sex and everything. They're not using the dildos on each other, right? That's kinky. Well, it's kinky soirees, honey. I think that there's a daytime event and then there's probably nighttime activities which are less sanctioned. There's a pet play round table. I don't even know what that means. And then there's another example they give here is a strap-on fencing. What is strap-on fencing? You know what fencing is, right? You mean the sport? Yeah, with the swords. I thought you meant the fencing that goes around the yard. That's fencing out there. What is it? It's a bunch of strap-ons. So strap-on fencing. Yeah, so you strap it on you, en gare, you know? With your fingers only? No, I don't think so. I'm not going to stand up in it. Grab your strap-on, girl. I'll show you how we do it. But this one was a Renaissance-themed event. Which doesn't make any sense, right? How do you ... Okay, never mind. Renaissance makes sense. I was thinking Medieval times. I was like, how do you do anything in a suit of armor? But Fluffy hats Everything was very foppish Poppish poppish well make sure it wasn't a new slur. I'd never heard of no it might be a slur. I don't know Oscar Wilde was foppish, okay Well, still, don't know if it's a slur or not. So anyway, Glo, so, and also one detail I didn't mention is it's a lot of gay dudes. Not only, but many. Okay. So, and anyone's invited, but you know. Beware. If women are intending to find someone, not this event. Maybe, but maybe you find, I mean, I don't think you'd go there to find some one. I think you'd go there to find some people. It's the vibe I got, right? Right, right, yeah, exactly. Which, whatever, like, you know, that's what this country's built on, right? Do what you wanna do. So, they woke up the next day to, like, what sounded like semi-automatic rifle fire, and people yelling, that's for last night! So they hid in, like, their trailers and campers for like two hours while they just heard this gunfire. And there were some locals trying to scare them. Oh, to leave the property? I don't know. Or just pay back. Yeah, they were having fun the night before. Oh, I got it now. They sounded like a couple of dudes who probably won't ever admit to their own gayness. You know a little bit. Yeah, so there's one town's person. She says I Don't want our town to become some carnival ground machine gunfire I Don't want a bunch of butt stuff in Renaissance gowns, but gun open gunfire totally okay. That's fine Like what what are these priorities it makes no sense to me? I've never been to standard. I don't think yeah That's way up there. Oh, on the Canadian border? Near the Canadian border, I believe. But the neighbors are split. Some say it was no problem. They're like, yeah, we didn't hear anything about that party, but the gunfire sure woke us up. This is wild, man. It's a crazy story. Yeah, like, and it's wild that those people with guns are probably like, quote unquote, freedom-loving America like that's what your freedom gets you go do your right thing in the woods with consenting adults and you can do stuff on your own property without you know somebody coming with guns apparently like the cops showed up and they kind of maybe there was some there were noise cops showed up they quieted down it was fine but I don't think was the noise that bothered these fellows I think it was just the idea of what was actually happening. People having fun. Yes. People having fun in ways that make them uncomfortable. Right. Remember the movies with the like dinner parties where they all threw keys into a basket and then you end up going home? It's called a key party? No, the movie? Ice Storm. Ice Storm. Oh, right. Great movie. That's it. Great movie. But key parties were a real thing. Yeah, they were. Yeah, yeah. They probably still happen, right? In some way. Yeah. Phone parties or something, I don't know. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know. So, Glow, you brought that up because? Only because I just thought of it. Okay, fair enough. Because it's kind of the same thing. It's, you know, free sex. I mean, both ways. It's freedom, but it's also free. You're not paying for it. Well, I think these guys probably had to register. Yeah, they're actually staying there. Yeah, yeah. So they're paying probably to stay there. Right. It is a campground, I guess, or something. Right, right. How do campgrounds make money? Like, do you like the electricity hookups? There's a fee for staying there. Do they have like a, some campgrounds have like a bar, right? They do. Some do. I know there's still one. I don't know. What? Maybe not in Vermont. Or California, or Oregon, or Washington. Yeah. Like RV parks don't have like a tiki bar or something? Oh, an RV, well, I didn't camp out under a tire, so. Oh, I think they're probably, I don't know. Okay, this is an adult only campground, so maybe I got it wrong. I just, when you look at the overhead shot, I thought, it's actually smaller than I thought. Yeah, it's probably a BYOB situation Or your poppers or whatever you got going on over there, right? Yeah, bring your own poppers. Bring your own poppers Yeah, it doesn't look that big But I'm sure they can carry on yes, all right moving on Mackenzie Scott donating 20 million to Champlain housing trust Nice, is that the Mackenzie meet? No. No, she's uh Oh, she was once married to Jeff Bezos, okay And now she's running around the country spending all his money. Yep. She got a bunch of his money and she's giving it away Nice. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, she's a good person Wow, no wonder she's not with him anymore Well, she's not with him anymore Because he was stepping out right and he got his phone hacked by like some Saudis or something and they got publicized So oh, so he was having an affair. Yeah more He's like one of these guys that sends his pictures of his junk Would anybody want to do that I don't get it I don't even want to look at my own junk Well, you don't have to Yeah, I never got that That's just the stupidest thing. It is one of those things where you're like. Especially if you're in a big position. Yeah. I mean, if it's just a couple, whatever, mucks, who cares, but you know. I would figure a guy like Bezos, once he hits like, I don't know, 100 billion, if he's like, because I don't know if you've seen, like old Bezos, he has a little bit of hair, he's kind of a little schlubby, like we're gonna get this thing going. Then he like started working out, he shaved his head, he's probably like all jacked up on testosterone. If that's who you want to be like you could probably just made a deal with your wife like listen we're gonna you can meet whoever you want to meet. I'm gonna meet just keep it discreet. You know we're not gonna divorce just you still have access to this lifestyle. I imagine most people in the world would be on board with that. What do you think? Am I crazy? Well, she ended up getting half of it anyway. She's like, I think I'm hype, yeah. Sometimes you get the better part of the deal. I think I'm hype, yeah. I would choose that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Living with someone that you do not like or respect is not good. Yeah, but I mean, God, they must live in a place where they don't even see each other. Oh, I know. The house is probably bigger than city. Yeah. And also, we're imagining they live in the same house. There's probably multiple You guys don't have properties. You know, she's over there, he's over there. But yeah, point taken about not wanting to be married to someone who you detest. But now she's giving his money away. That's cool. That's a lot of good. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And every time she gives it away, I don't know about you, but I'm always like, man, she's so much better than him. I wonder when he reads the headlines if he feels like that, you know, so so bleep beep beep kind of person and big for spending my money. I don't know what he thinks. That would be interesting to find out. I would bet that he does say it's my money. I bet he still uses that phrase. Yeah because did she contribute to the company no but that doesn't mean anything hold on she did oh that even means more well I don't know but I we don't know her story you know it's hard to define contribute he goes home he's like I got these ideas they're talking over dinner and she's like giving some feedback who knows you know that's in immeasurable it is well well nice very nice person you know Confucius would say about Jeff Bezos. Confucius say, man piss in wind, wind piss back. That was not the best, but I like it. It's more just describing how wind works. All right, moving on. Your buddy, Matt. Yep. OGE, moving to open a new store in Essex. Yep, he's gonna take half his store, the one he's got now, the two-story store, and just cut it down to one. One story? One story and then move half his business out to Essex at the, whatever that big. Shopping center? Yeah. This is huge news actually. You know, this is going to be great for that shopping center who we've seen many businesses going in and out, in and out, you know, empty storefronts. Well it's big news because of what it tells you about Burlington. Burlington. Yes. You know, he's the largest store in Burlington, I believe. I think so. Two floors? Yeah. Two floors. That's a huge store. Yeah. And he's seeing the handwriting on the wall, and I'm getting out of here while I can because, you know, he leaves, that's a big chunk. He's having trouble finding workers. Part of it. For the one downtown? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's a pain. If you're not gonna walk there, you're gonna miss it, you know. They're always still dealing with a lot of scumbags down there. Right. A plethora. Yeah. A flock. People that could be, their names read at the end of the show. Possibly. I don't know if we have any from that time. But this is big news because of that, because of what, the message it gives about Burlington. Yeah. You know, I mean, stores come and go, you know, but, you know, his, this is not the only store that's left you know recently so L.L. Bean yeah yeah Macy's L.L. Bean just couldn't compete with Mark yeah so eventually downtown is gonna look like the U Mall yeah cool you know and how how how far behind is the there's the pit you know when is that supposed to it's on I know it's I know it's taking shape but it's gonna be a huge apartment building no one wants to live in right yeah again like sign of the time it's gonna be like a dystopian movie where this giant apartment building and outside is just wasteland you know maybe that's why Miro is not running for a re-election yeah you know he's gonna get blame for it anyways. It's gonna get worse. He'll still get blamed for it, but I don't know. But yeah, this is, I can't wait to talk to Mark about it. Well, I went to a hardware store today and there was a sign on the door and it said, due to high shoplifting, we have cameras and we will call the police. I mean, it was threatening and it was quite a page. I don't even know if people would spend the time I don't think a lot of shoplifters are readers. No. They're not going to stop and read that. That Venn diagram is just not connected at all. But then also a couple of weeks ago I went to TJ Maxx. I was walking out, and there's a bunch of cops, and they were putting handcuffs on this woman. Good. Lock her up. I know. And you should see the cart she had. I mean, filled, like a shopping cart. Oh, she's just walking out casually, just like, huh? Yeah, with a whole shopping cart full of clothes. Clothes which I always thought shopping cart in a clothes store that doesn't seem right But it works there and it works for shoplifters. Yeah, but not for her Didn't work for her. She got she got nabbed Yeah The shoplifting thing I think it's just people at the end of their wits You know, but also like do you really need like a new dress? I don't know or a new I guess maybe do need like a new pair of slacks or shoes at some point But I think these people are shoplifting to sell Themselves, that's what that's what's going on all these people that do like Commando raid shop shoplifting where all these just groups of guys run into a store and just take as much as they can yeah Yeah, they're just selling that shit. Well sure I Figured if you're like taking the time to walk around TJ Maxx you're probably finding stuff that you like Or is it like supermarket sweepies, go grab the most expensive stuff and run out? Grab the turkeys. That's what they're doing. Okay. Grab the turkey. You always go down to the turkeys. Yeah, grab the turkeys. Oh well, good luck, Mark. Good luck, Mark. I've never met you, but people love your business. They start out so small, too, on Main Street. Just a little tiny store. People would bring their gear in and then he would resell it to them and he'd split the, that was his whole, that's how he started. Yeah, I used to buy a bunch of old used stuff but in good condition. Somebody tried it's sport once and it wasn't for them. Yeah, so that's good for him. Moving on, Department of Corrections is just gonna renew their contract to send our prisoners to Mississippi. Okay. And it's going to cost 23 million, or 21 million to do that, if it's 300 beds. But they don't think they're going to, there's only about half of that right now. So they don't think it's going to, but there's still a lot of money. Why so far? because it's it's it's these prisons are for hot for profit so they just find the best deal you know I got a real good deal those prison beds 200 you go 300 I'll drop the price 10% I it's got to be it it's just so you know they're just shopping you know all these prison businesses just to find the right one and you know. I got a spare room, what can I get for that? You know what I mean, like put some bars in there? Three, you know, that's a big difference, Mississippi. I bet you a Mississippi jail is worse than Vermont jail. Oh, probably, I mean. Depending on where it is. Yeah, almost certainly. But can you imagine you're in a Mississippi jail, like, what are you in for? I stole some slacks at a DJ Maxx in Burlington, Vermont. Like, what the fuck? Like, and then when you get out, Do they bring you back or are they just like, you're out. And now catch a cab. Yeah, figure it out. No, I would imagine they bring him back. I don't know. You can't put some prisoner out in the middle of, you know. Matt, they can do whatever they want. I mean, you could. And also, what if I want to stop on the way? If I say, actually, drop me off in Boston, would they do that? Or are they just like, no, we got to bring you back to where we got you? Well, every movie I've ever seen with a prisoner coming out, they don't ush, you know, they just usher them to the gate and say goodbye and that's up to you now to go find your own ride. Or they weren't shipped 1500 miles. They always give you back things you had in your pockets. They do? Yeah. Oh yeah. All your personal effects. I always thought that would be like an interesting time capsule. You know, if you're in for like 25 years, you get out, you're like, oh, like my beeper or whatever. Or like a couple years later, you get out, you're like, oh, my COVID mask was in my pocket, I don't need that anymore. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Look back, what you had in your pocket, 25 years. Yeah. So yeah, that's interesting, but whatever. It's Vermont, I'm trying to figure it out. This was another interesting story because I guess it's something I knew, But I've never thought about it that companies sell steam Y'all I know I didn't know it was steam I thought it'd be in a form of you know gas or petroleum oil. You know fuel heating fuel But I thought that the whole thing was the Burlington Electric Department is very wasteful especially the Joseph C. McNeil generating station. That's the one that- You know where it is. It's on- Right down the end. Right down the end of our street. It's- Yeah, our street. Yeah, South Prospect. And then you go over to the interval, and there it is, right on the left-hand side. Across Riverside. Oh, North Prospect. Yeah, yeah, well you just keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just keep going and going. I never knew that one. All the way to the very end. But that's where I bring, When I used to bring the trees and stuff like that, I would actually drive it there. I'd stuff it all in my car and drive it there because- Now you can burn shit. Yeah, because it's a wood-burning company. I mean, what's the word I'm looking for? Energy? Facility. Facility, there we go. Yeah, and that's a problem. Because of that, they say about 75% of the heat used to make steam at the 50 megawatt facility 50 megawatts glow, imagine that. Is that a lot? I don't know. Sounds like a lot. 75% of the heat escapes. So they're not even efficient in how they're producing energy. I see. So this dude, what is his name? Jan? Jan? Jan, I think. Jan Schultz, he is trying to get that changed and he's trying to set up some kind of a pipeline from the facility to the medical center so the steam doesn't escape, but the steam is used to power the UVM Medical Center. Wow, that's a great idea. So you mean all this time, the steam is just blowing out the windows? It's blowing out. It's like, you know, you can look off that, sometimes it looks like a big fire or something. Yeah, there's so much steam. I always wondered about that. When you see those like smokestacks, you're like, what is that and why is that happening? And no one ever thought to like put a lid on it, or like divert it or something, you know, like. That's not. That is dumb. I did not realize that, that they were wasting all, you're right. I'm not bringing my wood there anymore. Oh, there you go. Take a stance, take a stance. You're not getting my wood. But, go ahead, Matt. No, I was just gonna say, that's a huge project. Yeah, I like to see how they're gonna do it. There's a cemetery in a way. There's a couple things. There's many things in the way. I don't know how they would, the pipeline, I can't even imagine what that is. So it's gonna be a $42 million project. Uh-huh. Mackenzie Bezos, or Mackenzie Scott, could you come back? We got one more thing to ask you. What are you gonna say, Glo? Is there a map? Do they have it all plotted out? as to where they're going to try to bury this stuff? I don't see anything. I'm curious. Oh, there is something here. It does not help me very much, but it might help you if you scroll down, Matt, on the right side. Flo, do you see it? Getting there. It's a long story. I didn't read it. Oh, I see it. Oh, that. Yeah, yeah. I can see that. That is a long story. But another problem is that now they have to negotiate like a price with the hospital like Buy our steam What are you gonna buy it at you know? And if I'm a hospital Mike well, you're just giving it away a second ago So how much money am I gonna pay for this team? So this is not gonna happen is what's gonna happen. These are the phrase pipe dream Again clever seven days, but I I don't know, I just feel like the more people get involved, it's just, it's gonna go from a $42 million project to $142 million project. That thing is not gonna cost $42 million. And then it's just never gonna happen because everyone's gonna get their cut and all this shit's gonna happen and zoning laws, the Act 250 people are gonna get their panties in a bunch and it's all gonna go to shit. Yep. Because the environmentalists are saying, this is the thing, so this guy isn't environmentally, He's like doing this to like save energy. He's like, you know, we're blowing stuff into the air. It's bad the environmentalists are like actually We should shut down the whole plant. So you doing this makes the plant live longer Which is actually worse. So we just needed to shut it down. So it's like Okay It's like it's not good enough, so let's do nothing Man that's what I was thinking why they shut the whole place down. Why don't they? Where would they start building the second one while the first one's still operating? Can you imagine all of a sudden nobody's getting heat? Maybe they'd do it in the summer. It's three months. You better hurry. Yay. There's other countries that could do it. We're the one country that couldn't. Yeah. This guy says it's not an easy project. It does sound better to just build a new one, doesn't it? I mean, I don't know, well obviously you've never seen it, and I've never been up to it, but it's been around. Build a new what? Power station? A facility, yeah. To burn wood? To burn wood? Well maybe not wood. That's what they're saying, we shouldn't even have a facility that burns wood. We all had a nuclear, big nuclear people. I don't think so. No? No. Just kind of rubbed you the wrong way? Yes, I mean once you have like what happens a three-mile And then the other one in But you know then that whole place is just forever late forever in Maybe forever in human time not a wasteland a wasteland You know what I mean? You don't know how long, huh? Like Burlington right now. How long do they say it takes for that waste? Okay, never mind. Haven't we grown since then? We've learned. Okay, yeah. I mean, hopefully in a couple years we'll be harnessing the energy of the sun, like the fission. They're pretty close to that, you know? Then it's like game changer. Yeah. Also the one in Japan, remember the tsunami? Fukushima. Yeah, took out that, yeah. Took out the power the nuclear power, but the people were fine Really? Yeah, it's not like it Fukushima is not Chernobyl no, it's not three my island now people probably don't want to live there because of those other places But yeah, I think it's fine. I mean to live there. Maybe don't eat the fish, but I Think you're good. I don't know. I wasn't trying to put on my nuclear Moving on, we're getting a new village. Yeah, I put this on because I thought it was interesting. I didn't know how new villages happened. No. Apparently you need signatures. You just need signatures and a board and that kind of thing. So where is this? And this is, are they gonna call it Westbury? Is that, Westbury Village is what we think? I think it is. I think it's gonna be called Westbury Village project team. Yeah What's in Colchester? It's just a trailer park Well manufactured home how reductive Matt right it's a community it is like-minded individuals, right? So they decided to get together and make themselves a little village so they could get funds From the government I was wondering what would be the point of doing it I see Yeah, you know, they may be able to get some FEMA stuff or something, who knows? And because otherwise, if they're part of cold chester, that's going to get all divided up. Right. OK. Yeah. OK, thanks to Vermont law that defines mobile homeowners rights, the residents were allowed to compete with developers to buy the park in 2019 with help from the Cooperative Development Institute and R.O.C. U.S.A. So, yeah, and I got the story there saying it was a lot easier than we thought. We just got some signatures and built some paperwork. So now they're their own village. That is cool. Is this the solution for homelessness? Do we just put a bunch of homeless people in a trailer park for a couple years and then let them become their own town and be like, now you deal with the homelessness problem. Hamster day. It's your problem. You are in charge. I like this wild turkey crossing right in front of a driveway. Could this could this building become a village? This building? Yeah, I thought it's not that one, though. No, we don't want that. Just this one. Just this one. What can I kick a couple of people out? Well, what's your what's your the village constable? Yes. What do we have here? No, I OK, I'm fine with everyone here. I'm fine. We're good. We're good. We're in a good place, I think. I think we are. Yeah, I think so. No, here's door slamming. No, that's not going on anymore at all Then the greatest ten six twenty every morning Except at 620 every morning when it happens at 620. It's when one of our residents goes to work Oh, but it's not They're very very self-conscious. Yeah I mean, yeah, what what are the standards can you know? and we couldn't do it, but. And then maybe it will be our own country after that, right? Is that how it works? Oh, here's a little bit of trivia. You ready? Okay. Can you name the last village formed in Vermont? Before this one? Yeah. Yes. I'd say 2023. Oh, you got me. My trivia was the thing we've been talking about for five minutes. Dang, I need to make it tougher. I'd say as late as somewhere in the late 1800s, maybe. Okay, 1899. No, no, I'm asking for the name of the village. Oh, oh gosh, that would be harder. Yeah, but you were right, it was 90 years ago. Wow. Wow, how do I, wow, that was a good guess. Well, you said late 1800s, you're close. But then I said 1899. Okay. I'd say that's... Wow, okay. Way to price is right me. All right, so what's the town? You want me to guess? I'll say Waterbury. Waterbury? Okay, I'll say... Colchester. Jericho. Jericho? No! Jericho Village, although that's different. But Jericho Village. That is different. That is... yeah. That's a place you'd like to go to. Why? There's a general store there and it's really cool and it's got a bunch of old stuff and now that I think about it, no, you probably wouldn't. So never mind. That's a place you'd like to go to. They have creamies, don't they? Yeah, they have creamies. Oh, they have creamies that they make. How far is it from Palmer Lane Maple? That's my Jericho experience. It's very, it's which to... Down the road? Just keep going? Well, it's going to get boring to explain, but I'll show it to you on the map once you see it. You have to be maybe, you know, a little creative and I don't know what I'm saying. I can't believe it was that long ago. Right. And somebody else just came up with this idea. You think we're gonna get like a string of villages now? Like, oh, what? I bet we will. Yeah, maybe. I was in Jericho today. And that general store. Yeah. So that means I was in Jericho Center. did uh they didn't tell you that you're standing in the most recent incorporated village in Vermont until recently no but the one time he went there the first time and a customer came in and he was very friendly he told us about he had a in and all this God is really anyway he told us this is the longest-running grocery store in Vermont by the same family something like that and it's almost like a museum. There's embalming fluid on the shelf. Well, yes, it's a country store. It is. With the old cans and stuff lying in the walls and those kind of things. It's a pretty cool place. And it's a good sandwich place. You know, I got a sandwich there and it's very popular. I think there's some military something close by because people were in uniform. Oh, it's a shooting range. It was in Jericho. The army shooting range. Oh, okay. You know, Confucius would say about that. Let's see. Shoot. Confucius say, man who have last laugh, not get joke. That's a good one. Yeah. All right, moving on. Northeast Kingdom, they're having trouble finding driver's ed instructors. They're that bad out there, huh? Half the population doesn't have driver's licenses. That was my first thought. My first thought was like, I don't think of the Northeast Kingdom as having or needing driver's licenses. I thought it was one of those places where you grow up driving on your land as a 12-year-old. Right. And you just kind of figure it out, right? Is that not? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. In this story, this kid says, we did have the concern of should I do it in the summer, get it over with, or should I wait? said St. Johnsbury Academy senior, Christian Adames. Can you imagine being a senior and not having a license? Oh yeah. Well, you're special. You're special. I'm talking to Matt, there's a narrator over here. Yeah, I think, I was in 10th grade, I think. Yeah, it was like 10th grade. You had a driver's license? I had a learner's permit at 15, and then I had a driver's license at 16 in Florida. Yeah. Wow. And they don't give a shit who drives now. No, not really. I shouldn't have had to drive until I was 25. I'm surprised it's not 12 now, you know, something like that. Yeah. But yeah, so they're not doing it through schools. There's a big, long waiting list, and they're just having trouble finding people to fill the need, which it's very interesting. But also, I know that younger, like this kid's age, are also not really into driving. Right. In more populated areas. But like here like you know because most kids like I was getting uber about getting uber and What Barnett is that up there? Yeah? Yeah? I mean probably one uber person like Paul Well it sounds like Future business business opportunity right school in the Northeast Kingdom our friend Johnny see that's what he did oh That's right. Yeah. He was the driving instructor Was he good? I don't know. I guess if you're the only game in town, it doesn't matter. He did it for years for Burlington High School. Does it come with two steering wheels? I think it does. Does it? I don't remember. Maybe not. A car with two steering wheels? Well, you gotta have that because you gotta be able to take over because some of these kids. I don't think they did when we were. Mine didn't when I learned. I don't think mine did either, But I was thinking that what if some kid just panics at the wrong time? Oh, I so I never had to I never had to take a driving test Of course, it's Florida I didn't take lessons and coach Dickey Was our coach or driver's ed teacher was also coaching like girls basketball or something and he uh He would just sit in his chair and watch us drive around. If we got too fast or too slow, he'd be like, driver, driver six, driver six, slow it down. That was it. Yeah, it was a great place for coaches to work. Oh yeah. In driver's ed. Yeah, I don't think he enjoyed it, but whatever. I had my brother's baseball coach, Coach Crump was my. Coach Crump. Yeah. So he liked me, because he liked my brother. I wasn't, even though my hair was getting a little long. You tighten it up there. Young, I won't say his last name. Yeah, so, yeah, if you are inclined to teach youngsters how to drive, Northeast Kingdom, kind of a dangerous place to learn how to drive. That's when Whiny Road's up there. No? If I had grown up there, you know, hadn't left there, I probably would have been killed at some point on those roads up there. They're scary. It's scary. Well, driving on a New Jersey turnpike is nothing to sneeze at. Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. We went almost an hour without mentioning New Jersey. Now we have. You think, this is scary? Well, they're different, right? Yeah, they're different. Oh, yeah. I know, but, yeah, winding country roads, I'll take that any day. Unless it's icy and icy or foggy when New Jersey you get into a wreck There's people around you to like call the ambulance Northeast Kingdom. You might just be lying in a ditch for hours Maybe yeah, and not only that there's no cell reception out there. See if you were like Don't work Damn you Christine Alquist All right music from our man Ravon. He's dropped the C. New song is, Matt, maybe something you might enjoy. Maybe I used to enjoy. It's Paper Tabs. Paper Tabs. Push it, push it, push it back, I can't even get my act together, I want to last forever. You thought we could it, could it, could it, could it, mash, now we finally attached, but several of us take a stab, a pleasure, let's take a stab. Push it, push it, push it back, I can't even get my act together, I want to last forever. You thought we could it, could it, could it, could it, mash, now we finally attached, but several of us take a stab, a pleasure, let's take a stab. Push it, push it until we spiral from the cliffside. No matter the level, I've never ever been this high Cut you up in paper tags and put you on my tongue You the darkest corners of my mind and brightest morning sun You like the lick to my smoke, the nicotine in my lungs The cigarette that I blow, you swish it sweeter than sun I think I need all your love, I think I need all your love I think you'll never give it to me, but I'll keep showing up Flick goes to match that spouse to insanity Kerosene dreams, I'm entrenched in a fantasy Blinded by dopamine, bloody from your touch Like a moth to a flame, I embrace what I lust Lost in your ways, stay for the fun Soften the pain when you claim I'm the one Schedule delayed like a train off the track Said you wasn't game, now you gotta Push it, push it, push it, push it back I can't even get my act together, I wanna last forever You thought we could it, could it, could it, could it, mash Now we finally attached, what's up with this nigga stab? My pleasure, yeah Push it, push it, push it back I can't even get my act together, I wanna last forever You thought we could it, could it, could it, could it, mash Now we finally attached, what's up with this I take a drag, cause you tell me I need it, then I melt in my seat, to relax, you take a dab, then you fell to the ceiling, now in the hell I recede in the cushion cracks, where did you go? And you sell what is tweaking, it recommends that I leave a message atoned, you left me alone, I let you get the best of my beans, you made a mess of my feelings, I loved it so, you say you want, you think you know, you gotta split it clean, the thought of going cold it always makes it hit your pee this serotonin overload is slowly killing me you control our misery with bags of blowin' zits so we'd fix your veneer, rip the tree out, snap the snow, you split for teeth I miss it though, a pinch of E, you drink your soda with codeine this pumpin' gotta steady trippin' off that broken hearted pack soul was not the same, so we gotta push it, push it, push it, push it back I can't even get my act together, I wanna last forever you thought we couldn't, couldn't, couldn't, couldn't match now we finally attached, what's ever, let's take a stab a pleasure, damn, yeah push it, push it, push it back I can't even get my act together, I wanna last forever Thought we coulda, coulda, coulda, coulda, coulda, mash Now we finally attached with several to stick a stab A pleasure to stick a stab Alright, we are back and... God dang it! Stop! Leave our bridges alone! Stop hitting our bridges! Hold on. Okay, sorry. Now we're ready. That's fine. So, I think that was happening before these bridges got hit. Blindenville covered bridge has been hit twice in one day, Glow. By different people. And it's always, at least it's a truck. I mean, I hope it wasn't like a mini Cooper. Yeah, it's trucks. The bridge is nearly 200 years old. Oh man, is it because they're too high and they hit the top? Is that where they're hitting it? You know, because they don't read the stupid sign. That's why they hit it. Nobody really yeah, it looks pretty tall to me, and they don't know how they may not know how you're driving a rider truck Can you tell me how? High that thing is you definitely get told yeah Yeah Anyways, yes, just stupid people not reading It's just what happens all the time in this state of course. We got a bunch of these all over so like the notch Now they have on Route 15, you know, one of those live signs that are run by solar and it's telling you, what's the fee now? Not the fee, but the penalties. The fine is. The fine is. For what, hitting the notch? You're getting stuck in the notch? Getting stuck in the notch. I think it's $1,600. That's all? I think I saw $2,500. Maybe it's $2,500. So anyway, they still do it. So notch, $2,500, hitting a bridge. Nothing. No, $1,600. Really? Oh, these people are paying $1,600 to fix it? Oh, that's where I read that. Well, it says can face a $1,600 fine. I would like to change that word can to will face a $1,600 fine. Or else. Dun, dun, dun. We won't take a finger? Confucius say. No, I'm just kidding. All right, moving on. This was interesting. So there's a 2.5 million dollar investment into a dental therapy program at Vermont State University, but the program still has not materialized. I have some questions. Question one, what is dental therapy? And two, where the hell is Vermont State University? It's the it's the system now they've named all the they've gotten all these castles in state you would know it as Vermont Technical College yeah oh yeah that's where I used to go to the dental clinic to have my teeth cleaned yeah well if you were that if this program happens you also get some dental therapy which I'd like to know what that is are they going to massage my gums are they Are you gonna talk to him? Tell me about your mother. I don't know. It would be like the first dental therapy program in New England. So they're trying to get in early. And apparently they're saying a dental therapist is similar to a nurse practitioner. So essentially it's a dentist that does everything except the title, right? Yeah. Like nurse practitioners do it all, right? Yeah, yeah. They pretty much do, yeah. They Google just like a doctor Exactly Yeah, but they don't have quite all the training and prestige that comes with being a doctor but but still no a Good one. You don't want to get rid of because I mean they mean a lot of business a good nurse practitioner, you know Yeah, I would imagine that's the case And so yeah, there's all this money's been dumped in and they just don't know really where it's going, what's happening with it. Nobody doing anything. What's the location? Is it gonna be this one here in Williston that they were planning on putting this? Dental therapy? I don't think it says. But Vermont Technical College, Northern Vermont University, and Caselton all got together, and now that's who Vermont State University is now. Okay. But we don't know which of those colleges this is, Or is it going to be all three or four? They're all going to have it? I would imagine it is at the technical college. Yeah, I would think so too. The program's inception took place in 2016. Wow, can you imagine taking that long? Things move very quickly over there at Vermont State University. Quickly. So I mean, really, what do you need? You need a couple of courses. You need a plan for the whole thing. Yeah. Start out with. Starts with several courses. Make a plan for all those courses. Hire people to teach those courses. That's what, a year's worth of work? I mean, it's not complicated. And you've got the money to do it. Got the money. Get a couple dentists in there. Figure out what they need. Look at other universities and the other programs in other parts of the country. Figure out what they're doing. Yeah. Do something. So these are what dental therapists do. They provide preventative and routine restorative care, including filling cavities, placing temporary crowns, and extracting badly diseased or loose teeth. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Not doing root canals or anything like that. But yeah, well, that's good. Probably a lot less schooling than a dentist. Yeah. Yep. University officials never applied for accreditation from the Commission on Dental Accreditation. They forgot? I don't know. Or they just didn't know about it? A variety of difficulties. It said we had some complications, we had a lot of staff turnover, made some changes in our grant management process, COVID, the merger of the universities, and we had a lot of leadership change. Well, it does sound like a handful. Yes, but also like, come on, man, don't tell me what you can't do, tell me what you can do. I'm a little disappointed in the Vermont State University dental, prioritizing dental therapy for the good people of this state. Especially if they're the only one in New England. They'd get attract a lot and that's the problem with Vermont State University is is they're not attracting a lot of people. And they're worried that if they wait too long they're gonna be the second one in New England. Right. Then you're always gonna be compared to Massachusetts. Yeah, UMass Amherst dental therapy program. Right. Where the hell it is. It's just stupid. It's a win-win if you do it. Sometimes you just gotta do it. All right, moving on. This is apparently a really big deal. I thought it was a joke at first, and then I realized, no, this is a big deal. So, Glo, Citizen Sider made a beer, a light beer, called Hey Bub. Okay. Yep. So far, so good, right? Yeah. Well ... Brews trouble with staff. Yeah, so a bunch of citizen cider staff has quit recently like walked out. What's wrong with hey, Bob? Well, well So far it's fine But they didn't like the way that was marketed so Something that you're like, okay like they're putting hey Bob on the same sign as like happy pride and stuff where it's like Okay, and they feel like hey Bob is marketed to like straight white middle-class guys It probably is. Okay. That's what light that's who buys light beer fine then They started making their staff wear t-shirts that said things like because the image is a guy in a lawnmower so they try to make their staff where teachers that say things like Keep it trimmed. Oh My god. Oh my yeah get plowed Approved for hooking up. Oh my Oh my gosh. So wait a minute, in this day and age, this is happening. In this day and age. In this day and age, in this town, this is happening. I can understand this day and age in East Tennessee, but not Burlington, Vermont. Oh my God. And also apparently, this is all allegedly, the owner says this guy was just a notorious asshole. And so apparently he fired their HR person right before this campaign, hired his wife in place. When staff complained to HR, his wife just told him, and he chastised them. There was no one in-house who had the employee's best interest at heart. And apparently at launch parties, customers were just getting wasted and coming to staff like, hey, do you keep it trimmed? Do you keep it trimmed? That kind of shit. God. I can't believe it in this town. That's a big business too, this one. Citizen Shider. They lost a bunch of people. No. Much of their staff was gay. So that was part of the problem. And I don't blame, oh God. I could see that in the 70s. You know, because we were still Neanderthals. but in this day and age somebody would think that was okay. Oh, some women had to wear a shirt that said, keep it tight, keep it light. God, keep it tight? Okay, now what's that got to do with a lawn? Well, high and tight, you know? I guess is what they're going for. Jesus. Oh my God. I don't know, it's gonna be kind of funny. Somebody should be fired. But you'd have, see, once again, we need a sense of humor. Well, well. But not force it on people, if they're not comfortable. Listen, if they wanted to sell those T-shirts. Sure. Not make their staff wear them. I mean, their staff could still be upset, but making them wear them is, that's a huge deal. Well, I used to have to wear my Sears uniform. Yeah, well that was in what, 70s? Yeah, okay But I can't even imagine Them asking them to do that You know, you know who thought that was okay It's like the context kind of matters right like it's a citizen cider Which you think is like this like flagship Burlington kind of represents the city a little bit. It's not fucking Hooters You know, I mean, right. It's not Twin Peaks. It's not one of these like restaurants. It's like restaurants Yes, it's like it's like an actual legit business you would think that has values that represent the community, but no It's not just to sell a light beer. Yeah, that's shitty beer Good, I'll probably never try it, but I'm curious So it's actually pretty good marketing, but you know I don't know Not anymore All right moving on to our beverage controversies of the week Do you think Starbucks is gonna survive in stow Of course they will you think so Yeah, I think some people don't even Yeah They're there. They don't even know You know they're walking around the village And they just see a star right? Oh, I mean a cup of coffee you know, being totally unaware that a block down the road is a local place. I think you're right, like it totally blows me away, like when I was in Barcelona and I see Starbucks is packed, I'm like, why would you go there? I know. You have that in your hometown. Like go to this local place, maybe they have something you've never even thought of. Right. You know, people like familiarity. I can't get that word. I have a sore throat, I have to say, but that's not the reason, of course. I get this bum knee, it makes it hard to pronounce familiarity. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't. I don't. I see a Starbucks and I'll choose a local place. The other Starbucks across the street. I mean, the typical tourist in Vermont is somebody just driving around looking at leaves or something, they get out of the car. They got a bit of change, they got a coin in their pocket. They pull in, you know, they're just walking around blindly, so, and some people like Starbucks. Yeah, but ... I don't, but I used to work there. I like surprises. You know, that's what I like. I like surprises. Yeah. Even if you walk into ... I'm going to use another country. Like, if I'm in Spain, and I'm like, I'm not going to Starbucks, I'm going to La Casa. And I walk in there and I get the grossest cup of coffee I've ever had with some burnt ass pastry, which never happened. Now I have a story. Now I have an experience. As opposed to like, oh yeah, I had like a venti Americano and it was fine. First of all, those names are just, they're ridiculous. That alone would keep me out of there. Agreed. I mean, we hear people order their Starbucks order, you're like, what the fuck? Hey, I used to have to listen to that. How'd you learn that? How did you figure that out? How long? This is, you know, this is some sort of a weird, it's just like, how did you come up with this? Yeah. You look at people like that, and they're always the ones that never tip. Yeah. Double cream, half a cup of the little, two ice cubes. It's like, what the fuck? You just can't go for a cup of coffee. But I'm hopeful, maybe not because it's Stowe, but like if this were Montpelier, they would drive him out, right? Yeah, yeah, they drove out, I think it was either McDonald's or Burger King, and yeah, oh, the whole town just. Maybe drove out like a Simpsons mob coming down the street, you know. With torches and no they got into a legal battle With what who whatever it was maybe McDonald's they wanted to move into this historic building so that's what they used as their trump card in order to You know get their way. It's pretty smart. I gotta say I mean that ruins I it's just like the dollar store whenever I drive in if I see a dollar store And then I see a McDonald's and then a Burger King forget it. I'm just gonna turn around and leave You just described my hometown. Well, when McDonald's moved into Stowe, they did it, you know, on the sly. Under the cover of darkness? They submitted a plan for a restaurant, but didn't give the name as McDonald's. Really? Yeah, it was just owned by some other company. Like the Ray Kroc company? Or it was owned, it was a franchise, so it was put in the name of this other company. And all of a sudden, people realize there's a McDonald's and now it's closed, it's no longer there. That gives me some hope that the locals will reject this and that'll be enough to put them out of business. They have to make it uncool. That's it. People go more so by, well, stupidity. Glo loves people. Great vision of people. Well, I think this other person who has her own little shop has got her own business and she's not gonna be affected by it, you know, because she probably knows everybody that walks in the door. Yeah, but the tourism, that's the point, right? It's like you have to shame the tourists. You need to shame them. Don't go to Starbucks, you piece of shit. Go to one of these other ones, Black Cat, Main Street, whatever else is there. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need no more stinking Starbucks. I do not like, I just don't like chains, period. Box stores, chains. You like Macy's? Okay, I'll make an exception. Hey, the exception proves the rule. And I used to love to go to their store in New York around Christmas time. We would, you know, of course take the train and they would take Santa pictures. And me and my coworkers one time, we sat on Santa's lap. There was only three of us, fortunately, at the time. But anyway, yeah. And you get a picture of Macy's with Santa. I loved that store. You know what Confucius would say about that? Girl who sit on judge's lap get honorable discharge. I love that! That's a good one. Now that's a good one. Alright, moving on. Williston officials might lift the backyard chicken ban. Good for them! I'd say Williston needs more chickens. That won't make anyone crazy. They finally realized they couldn't enforce it. So they're gonna make it legal. Yeah, you know, why fight City Hall, right? Who are we gonna call? The cops? Yeah. There's chickens over here? Who's the enforcement officer here? Who's the enforcement officer? I don't know. These are all great questions. Would that be animal control or would that be a police complaint? I think it would be animal control. Do we even have that anymore? We don't have dog catchers, do we? I hope not. I think there is animal control. That's a good question. Yeah. Dog catcher. I bet they call them something way different now. Oh, well, what do you ... Animal control. Animal control. Yeah, right. That's great. Yeah, it's animal control. It's just like the ... Is there still a dog catcher? An individual who works for such an entity was once known as a dog catcher, but is generally now called an animal control officer. So, do we actually have one here in Burlington? I think we do. Really? Uh-huh. Is he busy or she I don't know But I remember one got called to the dog park up off of star. Oh star farm, right? Yeah, this woman kept bringing her pit bull and the dog was attacking other dogs No kidding. They were trying to trying to make her leave Wow That's good to know that there they also do that as well Yeah, I'm trying to find if I can see like the names of the officers who are the animal control officers, but they don't publish that. Why would they? Oh, I say that and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So yeah, so these chicken rules, they got some specific parameters. Yep. Allowance of up to 12 chickens per household. Not one more chicken. I had 20 in New Jersey. That's why I pointed at you when I said that. A buffer from property lines of 15 feet for chicken coops and 20 feet for bedding and feed. Oh, okay. And it would require the regular removal of manure. Removal? You just dig it into the dirt. It's great as fertilizer. To which I say, define regular. How often is this manure getting removed? Like annually, that's regular, but you have in mind here. Yeah, once a year, that is regular. Yeah, that's regular. It's every September 3rd. That's, what a weird, yeah, not very specific. I'm glad we don't have chickens. No? I mean, yeah, why? You don't like them? No, they're fine. but they do shit on everything. Well, so do we. But if you had it, if you had them out there in a yard, you know, just free range chickens out in the yard, you know. Well, yeah, I guess you're right. There wouldn't be, well, never mind. They don't eat mosquitoes. I think they're too slow. But if we think of an animal that eats mosquitoes, you know. Bats. I never told you this. Oh God. Are there bats here? Are there bats living here? Okay, maybe I won't tell you this. Well, well, quite the mystery we have here. Well, I noticed you're not very perceptive and I figured you would not ever notice. Is there a bat in this room right now? No. Okay. Is there a bat in this apartment right now? No. Okay. Matt, you know what's going on. Yeah, I know where she's going with this. Let her finish. No, I'm going to have him hanging. The bat? Yeah. Upside down, just like a bat. Just like this. How many? Bats? None yet. Okay. But, come on. I've talked about it. Yeah, I know, but like, I don't really care. I know, I know, I know. In my household, I'm not the one who cares. I know it's not, I know. So we're gonna definitely maybe bleep this whole thing out. I don't know. It'll remain anonymous. No one will know what it is. It's a big mystery of something that's happening. No one could ever figure out what's happening, but apparently a bat lives somewhere outside now, and I'm. No, no. No bats, no bats. No yet. No, I'll tell you I'll tell you when there's a bat And duck That's a myth by the way that they get caught in your hair They have the best sonar That of anything we've ever done ourselves in technology You you think they're gonna fly into somebody's hair. No, I I don't think it would ever come near me. It'd probably get as close to me as a squirrel does. I love bats. I think it's not. He's not the I'm not preaching to the choir. No, I know. I know. It's like. Anyway, OK, well, leave you hanging, leave me hanging. All right. See? Oh, it's just like the museum piece, the pencil sharpener. I'll leave you to think about this. I know, I love these games and what's that children's book that you and I both know? The one, anyway. It was. It was. Everyone listening like, Glo made this motion with her hands as if this children's book was about two feet by three feet. Highlights. Oh yeah, the magazine. Magazine. Find the hidden things. That was me, the script, the words, whatever that was. Yeah, you flip right to that. You're trying to find the rake that's up in the bushes or whatever. Exactly, exactly. I love that. So I'm gonna leave that up to you. I'm gonna leave it up to you where it's gonna- Leaving that rake up in the bushes, okay. You're gonna have to play, you're gonna have to find that whatever in the bushes. Okay, I will tell you this, if you start housing a skunk around here, that is a line that I would not accept. No, first of all, I know skunks. Skunks wouldn't dare hang around us. We've got better things to do. Yeah. There have been people who have made them pets. They remove their glands, I guess. No. That can't be. They don't dump my animals and stuff. No, no, they do. They do it when they're babies. Yeah, yeah. And they take the glands out. So they grow up around a person. They're a pet. They're kind of like having a cat or a combination cat dog, I guess, without the stink. I'm sure they still stink. All right. Moving on. Yep, no skunks. So this is kind of a complicated case, but down there in Brattleboro, a judge is allowing a search warrant to be issued to be challenged, but like, the search. After the fact, too. After the fact, so what happened, Glo, is the authorities, I'm not quite sure who it was, maybe it was Brattleboro Animal Control, got wind of these emaciated horses at this farm, so they went in with a search warrant, found it's true, grabbed the horses and took them out, but now the judge is saying, well, this search warrant was based on a hearsay. It's like, but- But we proved it. Right, but I got, I don't, there's one thing I never get about search warrants. Like, even if you execute it and find what you're looking for, if the way that, if like something was, like you forgot to like add some periods or something, they're like, actually it doesn't count. Yeah. It's like a fucking game. It's like- No common sense, obviously. It's like, well, actually. Yeah. Actually, put the drugs back. Put the weapons back. It's stupid. Yeah, they found a bunch of horses that were yeah, I don't want to hear it And so yeah, I won't go into the details, but glow the owner said no no no it's because they had they were sick It's not they're not always like this And he's got like a hundred of them there, right? Yeah, did they take all a hundred? No? No? No it was only like 16 or I would say only 16, but any Any horses you know in that condition? It shouldn't be anyway, so. But this is crazy. If you have a search warrant to go find stuff and you find it, that should be sort of the end of it, right? Yeah, common sense. So he's not ruling against the search warrant. He's just saying it can be challenged in court. But I mean, why? I don't know. But also, this is interesting, no criminal charges were filed against the defendant, but even after they grabbed the horses, which is also weird. That is weird. The whole thing's weird. They're weird down there in Brattleboro. What are they doing down there? All right, a couple more. A tea shop has opened in? Of all places. Rutland? Rutland? What's with that? That's a real head scratch. I mean even ten years ago I couldn't see having a tea house and I think it was probably in better shape than it is now. Yeah like then I mean who's rolling around Rutland like wait for some gray arrow and the place is called loose Luna Gifts and Tea House. Do you go to school with loose lube in that? Sorry, go ahead. Should I leave the room? No, no, no. It was fertile myrtle. Fertile myrtle, my God. Okay. Where's that from? I don't know. Well, you know, I wish her a lot of luck. And it might work because I do like that little downtown part of Rutland. It has such a bad rep because of that ugly seven stretch that nobody cares about that the village is off to the right if they're going south. Nobody seems to care. I mean like they're just on their way merrily down this. Merrily. Everybody's merrily going down. Hey, it's that stretch in Rutland. Everyone, yay! You get to see all the crappy motels. I think with her, I think with any business like this, especially there, it depends on where you are. You know, she said 11 Center Street. Sounds like it's in the middle of something. Sounds like in the middle of something. But she said business has been good except for on Sundays because nobody goes downtown on Sunday. Nobody thinks that anything's open on Sunday. Therefore, why should I be? Or why should I go down? Why should I? Yeah. You know? She says 80% of millennials are tea drinkers. Oh, that's a new thing, huh? I don't know. That's like Lipton, maybe. Arizona? Yeah, that's it. There's alcoholic tea drinks. No, Arizona's not. Well, I guess it is alcoholic now, but they weren't originally. It's like those giant sugary tea things that were 99 cents. You ever see those, though? They're just like massive cans. They were 99 cents forever. Probably more now, but it's like the best deal I've ever had. you'll go and if you were a... That's what makes them tea drinkers. Maybe. I can't see 80% of them sitting around drinking tea. 87, almost 90% of them. No, that's bullshit. Seems high. And at the shop they have 70 types of tea available. Of course. I mean, we're not talking Lipton. No, no, no. Or even Red Rose, or any of those boring tea bags that we grew up with. We get our tea at the Asian store. at the either the Himalayan store or sometimes I don't know Vietnamese. I'm not sure what they Like tea black tea. Yeah, there's a certain a some black tea, which is what Lipton is You know, and but I also do get jasmine tea I get you know, sometimes Other teas. I used to love to drink this particular jasmine green tea when I And now I drink coffee So her offerings range from familiar choices like Earl Grey and English Breakfast to the strong smoky tasting Lapsang Suchong to flavored teas like a Watermelon Oolong. Whoa. Wow. Okay, I was mocking her, right? No, no, but that's what's happened. The reason why it's turning the millennials on is because, well, for one thing, it's different than what your parents had or grandparents or you just can't. you mom and your light beer, you stick the word watermelon on anything, people are going to try it, right? It pairs well with the watermelon vape. Yeah, that's it. That's watermelon vape, whatever. They're going to rebel, is what you're saying, against what they drink. Maybe that's it. Or they're more refined because they're more open to what we were open to. Well, things change every year. What they can watch, what they can do on their phone, therefore their world has expanded a zillion times. Did your parents drink coffee? Did what? Did your parents drink coffee? Yeah, really. What kind of? Oh my gosh. Was it a Portuguese brand or was it? No, no, it was Sanka, because my mom wasn't supposed to drink, and she would, oh, it was like crud. Sanka's decaf, isn't it? I know. Oh, she made such a horror, she would just boil it forever. You know, one of those old pots that go bop, bop, bop, bop. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what we had. My mother used to make a Maxwell house, I think. But we're more refined now because the business is more refined. Yes, exactly, back then, that was our choices. We had, what, what did you say, Maxwell? Maxwell house was the biggest, probably. And then. Then you had Sanka. Sanka. Yeah, Folgers. So when we went to the grocery store We may have had three choices. Yeah, there was a man. Oh, you have a bazillion and that's what makes this story So what has it now coffee has its own aisle? Yeah much exactly, you know it was you know before Shelf and you had the you know, then you got freeze-dried so that took up a little more space. Mm-hmm, you know and but now you have a a bazillion different brands. It's like the human population. You know, we just keep exploding with... But anyways, we don't drink that much. We drink our black tea and that's it. Yeah. We don't experiment. Yeah. It also yellows my teeth, but oh well. That's the problem. It does do a hell of a bit of staining. Yeah. Everything, everything good stains teeth. Of course. Coffee does. Yeah. coffee, wine, tea, I mean anything that's not water, right? Pretty much in for, in for staying. Milk, maybe not. Maybe not, other than. I don't think it's wrong drinking milk. No, no, it's not that, it encourages bacteria because. Milk does? Well, I don't know, all of it does. It's got sugar, everything's got sugar, including milk. Milk has lactose. You know what Confucius would say about it? He would say... I don't know why I always try to say it. I'm not actually asking you. Confucius would say, foolish man, give wife grand piano. Wise man, give wife upright organ. Upright organ? Upright. Oh, upright. It's a wiener joke. That's good. I love it. Maybe we should preface every show with Confucius. I think they will run its course after this show. Yeah. This is it. I'm having fun, but I'm done. This is the Confucius show. We'll always remember it. Do we ever hear back from our friends in Africa? They've dropped us. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, that's why we don't say hi to them anymore. Yeah. Oh, well. Hey, they're the boss. Yeah, we wish them the best, but also not that good. Right you abandoned. Yeah, like I don't think bad to happen to him, but also Now, where's the weirdest place? No, I don't know what is the weirdest place people listen to it Frankfurt represents Used to be Burundi, yeah Can you tell me if those clips I make of 60 seconds or less, do they get any attention, or that's hard to gauge? It's hard to gauge. I think people listen to them. Yeah, so, yeah, Frankfurt, Hawaii. That's pretty weird. I mean, most of it's like New England and Vermont, as you would guess. All right. Um, yeah, I mean, there's like, you know, there's Arizona, California, Oregon, stuff like that. But outliers. Yeah. What's new with them? All right. Moving on. They're trying to save a gazebo in Rutland. Actually, Rutland may benefit from having a gazebo. You need a place to sip your tea, right? Yeah. But leadership says So the, what is it? The project is saying the city hired low bidder Russell Corporate Construction, 2,800 to help break the project into phases. Wait, 2,800 just to break it into phases? All right, here we go. The 110-year-old gazebo is going to cost $730,000 to fix. That's the low bid. Are you kidding me? How big is this thing? I'm looking at the picture, but I still don't see it being very big. I mean, I get it. It's historic. It's amazing. I could cruise by Home Depot, get a couple guys and jump in the back of the truck and we could knock us out in a day, right? I think so. That's the other thing I'm looking at. I'm saying, wait a minute. What the hell do you need to... Otherwise, you might as well just build a brand new one that looks just like it because that's what you're going to be doing for that kind of money. Yeah, I would just build a clone gazebo next to it and just watch this one crumble slowly as my new gazebo lorded over it. I'd make it a little bit taller and a little bit bigger. So everyone would go like, oh, let's not sit in the doo-doo gazebo, let's go sit in the good gazebo. And I hate gazebos. You know me, I went out a lot of gazebos. I think they're useless. You're right. We hardly ever, well, I gotta take that back. I used to sit in a gazebo over here, community, community, Champlain College. Yeah. Outside, in that nice little spot. What a nice place when you're working. Yeah, you know, to get away from them. But in the middle of a park. Nobody's gonna sit there. No, they're gonna be bums sleeping there, bums. Homeless people, you know, I don't know. Well, you know, we've talked about gazebos before. Yeah, we're staunchly anti-gazebo. You need to get on board. Yeah, but wait, wait, wait, you can't say that Because his family gathers together in a gazebo for a funeral. That's a cemetery. Well... Look, listen, if one of my family dies I'm not going to want to be standing in the sun listening to everybody. Or the rain, remember? Oh my God. What about a nice pergola or something? I mean, why does it have to be a gazebo? What's a pergola? I mean, I have heard of it. It's a structure. Now I'm going to have to look at the picture. Pagoda? No, it's a pergola. A pergola. Okay, I'm going to have to look. They're all the rage now. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. So apparently Rutland approved $2.5 million to fix up the park, so this would take almost a third of it with the low bid. You're putting a third of your park budget into a fucking gazebo? That's crazy. Getting priority straight. Oh, it's just worth it. How much is a pool? How much is a community pool? Right. Something that people enjoy. That's letting people drive by and go why is that there? Like is there gonna be an Oompa band out there later or something? That's what I always think of gazebos. This is a little band. It's like a band. They were bandstands. Yeah, I think The tuba, you know, yeah Yeah, I mean they're just You know, they're five or six guys with brass Maybe it was, maybe it was. And I think that was actually the beginning of Gazebo. Is Liederhosen involved? I think there was. What? Liederhosen. Liederhosing. With the Oompa Band. Who's Liederhosing? It's not Liederhosing. She's leading the band. Yeah, me, my friend, Liederhosing. No, Liederhosen, like what Germans wear to celebrate Oktoberfest. It's called what? Am I not saying it right? No. Liederhosen? It wouldn't matter leader. Oh, you know what leader hosin is Short pants. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like Santa's elves almost something like that. Yes. Yeah. Yes the elves of Oktoberfest That's exactly what it is we got the Greek Confucius and the elves of Oktoberfest still anti-gazebo. Yeah Burn it down. Even if your family gathers in one. I don't care. That's my family. Right, you try to bring it up to charge. Do I own a gazebo? No. I don't like this gotcha journalism glow. It's his family. It's not him. All right, y'all ready for a break? Yep. The artist is Justin Levinson. The song is Madeline for the Win. She's gonna get her cheap shots in, Madeline Don't you even try to say you don't enjoy it Conflict gets you high Here comes Madeline She never takes a break She'll pick any side To argue with you Are you for argument's sake? Madeline, fourth on the chin. Madeline, you gotta get your fix. Hook them, start in trouble, is how you get your kicks. Here comes Madeline. She never takes a break. She'll pick any side. You are here for all humans' sakes She's gonna get her Cheap shots in Madeline You got your way, I guess Sincere congratulations You really made a mess Here comes Madeline, she never takes a break She'll pick any side, to argue or argue and stay Here comes Madeline, she never takes a break We're back. All right, cool. So it's time for America's favorite segment where we run down the worst people in Vermont. The politicians. No. The ne'er-do-wells. Oh gosh. Scoundrels. The rapscallions. Scalawags. Assholes. Matt, it's time for the scumbag map. All right, our first scumbag, a little young for the scumbag map. So young we don't have any names. Yeah, we generally don't have minors on the scumbag map. No, we usually leave the minors alone. But sometimes you do a scummy thing, you win scummy prizes. Yeah, you bring a BB gun to a football game and point it at somebody. Are you serious? Yeah. Did he shoot it? He didn't shoot it. No. But that's the thing. If you shot it, everyone went, oh, it's a BB gun. But it's not like BB guns are like these bright green plastic things, they look like fucking guns. Right, right. So this guy's got a pistol in his waistband that, you know, maybe it has an orange tip, but he's not doing that. He's lifting up his shirt and pointing at it and threatening people. Oh my God. And of course we live in a culture where like, if you heard that there was a shooting at a Heinsberg football game, you go, oh, that makes sense. Yeah. I guess it was our turn. We were due. So yeah. Need to have a talk with this young man. Well he's in other parts of the country probably would get shot by somebody. A good guy with a gun. Yeah a good guy with a gun. Yeah possibly. So yeah. I hope he learns his lesson. They know who this dude is. They followed him down. He's a former student. You're a former student. Like and he's 17. So either did you graduate early? You're very bright or they just want you the hell out of there That too, yeah, those are usually the two options I Think you're positive Good will hunting Another Einstein, you know bored in school. Yeah, he's a we got a we got a beautiful mind case over here He just loves guns which is possible. So yeah, I love your positivity globe. But no, I think this guy's just a run-of-the-mill scumbag Feature scumbag It's come back. Do we have a line there? No, he What do you call it when a caterpillar is becoming a butterfly somewhere in that state? All right moving on I always don't know how to say this word because it's not Enos Enos Berg Okay, it is because I'm always like there's no way it rhymes with penis Berg, but it does rhyme with penis. Yes, it does If you'd grown up there you would probably would have called a penis girl Oh my gosh, hold on she lied to us Well, I grew up in Titusville and we called it Hepatitis. So I'm aware of- I thought you were going to say something about TIT. No, no, no. Oh, hepatitis. You guys are- that's much better. TIT, is that it? Yeah, yeah. He doesn't want to say it. Oh, of course. I didn't want to say it. He's a classy man. Are we all of a sudden, you know, G? Yeah. I'm trying to think of a story I can't remember it because I don't tell you. All right, so two Enosburg residents face armored robbery charges. Police say they tried to hit the local shortstop. This writer uses the word hit as if it's like ... It's like they killed everybody in the store. No, I feel like this writer is writing from the perspective of someone who does this often. Right. Like, oh, what happened to those ... They tried to hit this store. Not rob, not assault, not ... He was like, hey, they're trying to hit the store. You know, it's such a casual crime word. It kind of stood out. Anyway, 9 p.m., Brandon Bergeron and his lady displayed a knife, grabbed the cash drawer, and cigarettes. Cute couple. You know, I would say he's not a bad-looking fella. Shave his beard. Yeah. So she, you know, sometimes. 20 miles of bad road. So yeah, so they fled. It sounds like they fled on foot. They were probably living next to the dumpster out back. It's hard to run when you're freaking whacked out on drugs. So yeah, the cops got him and yeah, yeah Charged him with armed robbery and a resisting arrest and she got charged with accessory. Well, look at this fairly He's got like a come hither stare She looks like she just sat on something uncomfortable Somebody peed on the toilet again No, I think that's I think it's a glare. I don't think it's like I don't think he's missing that hair That would be an unfortunate hairline if that was his hair I go we gotta get you back on mic over there We're moving on if you should say Yeah half of it, yeah, that's they're not as easy as you think I know Yeah, all right moving on where are we Matt we are in Brookfield That's the place I've talked about so many times The floating bridge the floating bridge and it used to have this beautiful restaurant and built like from you know early 1800s and It was a place to go and when we went he treated us like we were family You know, he even shared us shared some tequila that he had bought because this fellow in Mexico He was just on this restaurant They would work it during the summer and the fall and then they'd go to Mexico the whole family would go to Mexico during the winter and He would go to these different villages in Mexico and buy their tequila because each village has their own That is so cool. So he you know, he was giving me Little samples of all these really great guy. I don't think it's there anymore. No, I mean it went. Yeah It was a Mexican Well before that I can't remember but used to sit inside. We're probably George Washington sat in one time Yeah, Bobby's it was like that kind of place, you know, it just really went back in history Yeah, back to the story so a couple of people a man accused of double shooting. So, Devon Dennis of Hartford, Connecticut is charged in double shooting in Brookfield. Killed Juan Sierra and injured Miguel Fuentes. Both of... Connecticut. Hartford. Springfield, Massachusetts. You don't know that by now. Come on, the worst people in Vermont are from Springfield, Massachusetts. Oh my gosh, I guess I haven't been listening. Yeah, just keep it in mind. So, yeah, so they, it's just been charged. And this was back to an altercation where... It involved a truck, I think. Yeah, so Fuentes and Sierra both went to Dennis' home in Brookfield to buy a truck from someone else living there. Fuentes has told police that the resident met with Fuentes and Sierra outside to also buy drugs from them. It's unclear whether or not the truck was being traded for the drugs some truck or a lot of drugs after David States Dennis approached when does it's here outside I want to say that when Dennis shot two times killings here and within what is so these two guys showed up his house he walked out he's like yeah I can say some drugs actually I'm just gonna kill you both so you think there was like some words exchange was just a robbery gone bad like what the hell you think happened there had to be a history somewhere. You think so? Well, they arrested this dentist in Jamaica. His dentist? What? Homeland Security arrested this guy in Jamaica. Not his dentist. I heard that, too. I thought you said they arrested his dentist in Jamaica. That's what I heard. So who- Hey, man, what's up? No. Hey, you about to play? I'm here trying to fill in some cravities, man. No, they eventually arrested by Homeland Security after he was traveling to Jamaica in July. Then he was coming back. I guess that's when they arrest. Yeah, this guy. So, like, you know, as you do when you're innocent, you go to Jamaica. Right. This guy's guilty. Allegedly. Moving on. Yeah. Man who tried to let Molotov cocktail return to Vermont committed more crimes. This is a weird story. Why? He ran out of states. He he he he does this shit. And the judge says, OK, you post bail, but you gotta go, you gotta leave Vermont. Go back to Maine where you're from. And of course he's like Ernest T. Bass, he comes right back, starts throwing rocks through windows. Maybe the teacher just loves jail. Maybe he likes our jails. Oh that's true. Yeah, maybe he gets the real Vermont maple syrup. Maybe we got like really good mac and cheese. Oh yeah. In our jails. Jail, jail mac and cheese. Cabot mac and cheese, not that crap shit. It sounds like he's in love with somebody, because he's harassing them, I think. I also like your positive spin. He's in love, he's not stalking them. He loves them. I think, maybe I'm getting my stories mixed up. Within one week, we should do all positive spins on the scumbag map. What's the most charitable explanation of these lunatics' behavior? Let's be progressive for a minute. He's in love, he's in love. His, the conditions, okay, He's been in trouble before, but his conditions of release says he can't enter Washington County within 48 hours of being released, nor can he re-enter Vermont unless for court appearances or to meet with his lawyer without permission from the court so you gotta leave Vermont and not come back. Wow. But he comes back. I'd love to know how they're going to enforce that one. You know, our border, like, whatever. Well, if they just, the only way they can enforce that is if they find that he's came back. Yeah. You know, and that's how it was, I think. You know, but this guy's just, you know. For guys like this, can't we just say, like, you know what? Don't come back. Right. Even to meet your lawyer, even for your court appearance. We're just going to do it all on Zoom. We'll figure it out. We got you, dude. Yeah, his ex-girlfriend had surveillance footage of him coming to her home. Oh, what a lovely lady. the trooper said that she told Neville had entered the residence through a broken window. Oh picture fucking windows. Okay first of all yeah well did he break it or was it already broken? I don't know I didn't say. And were they dating at the time is this like his? This is his ex. Okay. He'd been sending her text messages before this incident. I don't know I don't even know what relationship but he's just harassing her. Yeah. And he keeps going back to but hitchhiking back to Vermont. He hitchhiked, that's his mode of transportation. Who's picking this dude up? I don't know, not me. Someone very lonely. I just like to talk, I'll pick up this guy holding two Molotov cocktails. Yeah, he's just, he's intoxicated. She reported later he discovered that the vehicle Neville had been driving had crashed into two mailboxes near her driveway. So, this guy's a real nerd, well. You know what Confucius would say about this? Confucius say, man who fart in church, sit in own pew. That's, oh my gosh, that's so good. So are these all online? Yeah, I'm not making these up. God, you're so brilliant. Oh my God. No, I found the 100 best Confucius jokes and I'm just picking random ones. They're really good. I forgot about them. Thanks for jogging my memory. Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard that many. Oh, my father was a big fan. Really? Oh, yeah. Full-on accent. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. So what was his favorite? Do you remember? It was the itchy finger, itchy butt, stinky finger one was his favorite. Oh. And he did it with the whole, you know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That makes it funnier though. It does. Sorry, sorry Confucius. No, I mean. Chinese. You're right, it does. I'm sorry, yeah, it's like. No, I mean, it does, like. You know, it's all in fun. I'm not doing it to hurt anybody. It's because it's funny. Yeah, yeah. You're not. I feel like there are some accents, I feel like Italians are okay, because I feel like we're all like, like no one hates Italians anymore, do we? Like we're all on global terms. Oh no, that was like in the 1920s when the Irish were ... But I feel like there's a lot of people who still hate the Chinese a lot, and so that's why I'm like ... Of course, yeah. Yeah, I see what you mean. Or any Asian accent. It's like, I don't like the government, but I don't hate the people. The people are fine. Right. I mean, you know, I don't know. I mean, you do a Russian accent, does that feel offensive? No. You can do Russian, because Russians are dicks. Yeah, yeah, they're always in the movies. They're always played by English actors. I'm just joking. Russians are not dicks, but although the dickiest country I've ever been to is Russia, they were dicks. Everyone I talked to was a dick. But I've met Russians here that were not dicks. Really? So all the good ones are here. Okay, let's move on. I feel like we're walking on a moon. When I worked in San Francisco, I met a lot of Iranians, and they were the greatest. Who? Iranians. Oh, yeah. And they're an enemy to this country, but the people are not. The government is, but the people are fine. The people were the best. And that's what I meant to say about Russia. I meant the Russian government or things not the people yeah, okay, although yeah, they're dicks Anyway moving on Where are we we are in Barry? I just love this Headline Vermont man with history of disturbances arrested again And you get a picture of him. Oh, yeah, and you realize He is a little disturbed When when you have the moniker like history of disturbances, it's like, okay, you're a handful. You're a problem. It reminded me, when I read this, it reminded me, so this is a man in the center of a hours-long police response in Waterbury who's back in court Monday after another arrest over the weekend. So this guy just can't stay out of jail. But this dude is known, right? Very, like, oh, there's old Tom or whatever his name is. It reminded me of, I was not there, but, There's a restaurant outside of Gainesville. It's like an all-night diner. It's called Cafe Risque. It's like, I don't think it's fully nude, but it's like topless, or like, there's like a place where women dance, and it's fully nude, and when they serve you your eggs, they're wearing lingerie or something. You've been there, Matt? Okay, I haven't either, but like, well, it's- It's sort of like Waffle House. Kind of. But topless. Actually, I've heard it's more like Denny's. I've heard it's like, it's weird because it's like fully lit, like a restaurant. Really? It's not like a dark strip club. Again, I haven't been there. But I went there, yeah, I haven't been there, even though I just started to say I went there. My friends went there on one guy's birthday, and so my friends went in there, and then this one guy, whose birthday it was, was just going crazy and like, you know how dudes act sometimes. And he was like talking to the waitress in a certain way and then like, like, kind of like jokey, but like, dude, just chill. And so then he went to go to the bathroom and the waitress came by and my friend was like, my other friend was like, I'm sorry about Kevin, you know, just, you know, I'm really sorry. She goes, Oh, he's here all the time. He's a handful. So my other friend was like, Whoa, like you have a reputation at this place? Like, you're known to be like a handful here? And like, yeah, so we just, we're like, oh, wow, what a- Douchebag. Yeah. Great guy, capable of douchebaggery. It's like, I went to this place called Dante's Inferno in St. Petersburg. It was a topless place, on the way back from the dog track. And the guy that was with me says, you know, he says, I've never been here. We walk in, waitress walks by, looks at him, goes, rum and coke. How'd she get it? Wow. Unbelievable. What a liar. Not a good one either. Not a good one. But yeah, they pick up this dude. He was released from custody on the condition he travels and stays with a friend in Maine and does not come ... wrong person. Same guy. No. Different guy. Yeah We're just sending all our people to Maine How are you send all our near to Wells? Have you been to Bar Harbor? Lots of room to Was this next one? Oh I can't read the story Matt. Okay defendant accused of assaulting an eight-year-old skips trial as jury waits arrest warrant Granted, the reason I put this is because it's a woman. Oh, yeah, this woman who slapped an eight-year-old like a couple of times and then mocked. For the next couple of days, I kept mocking this person when they saw it. You won't get slapped again or whatever the hell she was saying. There's something in there about that. So she's just an asshole, but she doesn't show up for court. Well, would you? Well, you probably always show up for court. I don't know. I mean, who knows with her, that tells you a lot when somebody doesn't show up for court, right? She has a long history of shit. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, she's just, she says Doucette is the mother of recently arrested fugitive Zachary Dumas' children and was his girlfriend in 2019 when he was arrested for alleged robbery of the Subway shop on North Street. Subway? Yeah. Douchette is accused at the time of lying to police by denying Dumas was in her home that night. When she took the stand, she testified she lied to the police when they came to her house that night, telling them that Dumas was sleeping on her couch at the time of the robbery. She's a scumbag. Yeah. To that Confucius would say, girl who pedal, God damn it, I fucked it up. Start over. Yes, Confucius say, girl who ride bicycle, pedal ass all over town. That's a good one too. Pedaling. B. All right, okay. Moving on. The Dorset Library president gets three years for embezzling. I love stories like this. Three years of probation though. Right. Send this person to prison. Dorothy. Dorothy. Dorothea. Sorry. Is it Dorothea Kelly? Yeah. You pronounce it like that? That's just Dorothy? No, it's Dorothea. You gotta know it's Dorothea. All right. Yeah. I will trust your Vermont judgment. Okay. My New England judgment. Yeah, so she was Plays on probation, why probation? She stole money from the library and a local business. So this brought to jail. Well, they said because she has no prior record and she's her age. Okay. So that just tells all people like my age who have no criminal records. Starting embezzling. Yeah. If you get away with it, you get away with it. Yeah, if you don't. Then you get probation. Yeah. What would you want, where would you embezzle? Clearly you've thought about it. So she stole, she improperly made nearly $26,000 worth of charges to a credit card owned by retail shop JK Adams. Just in a year time, they don't notice? You know, that's the problem. People don't check their invoices. It's a small town. Oh, she was their chief financial officer. Yeah. Okay. So I mean she was at the library, but nobody's looking at her, you know Who on the board is looking at her stuff or you know, whatever? But that's that's a lot of money in two years at the same shop. I mean like yeah, who didn't notice that somebody should have That's why we have so much embezzlement in this state Everybody trusts everybody. Yeah, I guess so but I guess she has to step down as a library president, huh? Why? That's a good question. It doesn't say in the story, right? Does she step down? She's on probation. Can you be library president while you're on probation? You can be American president while you're on probation, so I don't see why not. Yeah, nothing here about her stepping down that I'm seeing. Yeah, I think that she is good to go. She just cannot engage in work that gives her direct access to company funds or allow her to transfer company funds externally or use them for donations. Oh, she's prohibited from joining any community board. Damn, you're such a criminal mastermind. We can't even let you near a community board because you will take it over and infect it. You are so devious. That's amazing. So, yeah. Good on you, Dorothea. Did we talk about the cocaine bust last week? It was just a different one. No, it's the same one. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, we don't need to talk about it, but there's just more detail in this story than there was. Did we know it was a kayaker? No. I learned that today. Yeah, it was a kayaker. You and Liz had quite a conversation. Liz is right on the pulse of things. Liz should be on the show. This is my new source. We didn't know he was a kayaker, and he was actually, I think the process was he was trading the cocaine for marijuana that was on the boat, they think. You can grow cocaine, I mean, marijuana. Yeah, I don't get this deal. You can't grow cocaine. Why would you do that? That much cocaine, you would need a lot of marijuana as a price. Yeah, because it's a lot more ... Yeah, of course.... and it's much bulkier, I imagine, than cocaine, right? This story just sounds funny. But ... I don't know. And the other person got away, the other boat. Oh. Maybe they just had a motor. Maybe they were the ... They were the ones feeding the information to the ... Possibly. You got to get this kayaker. How do they catch them? No, I mean, it was all set up. Anyways, they knew they were watching this. Oh, I see. They were watching this situation. They were they were in the woods watching this situation. So they'd been tipped off that was happening. It wasn't like they just showed up. They knew. And I guess the person maybe in the boat coming across was the one who set it all up. Sounds like to me, you know, me and my drug smuggler buddy, I do. Yeah, I'll play that. I'm not going to doubt your your logistical knowledge about this topic. I feel like you have a mental image of exactly how it went down. So Confucius would say, baby conceived in car with automatic transmission, grow to become shiftless bastard. That's another one. These are great. I wish we could write our own. Oh, we could. Okay. You know, make a new book. New racist Confucius jokes for modern generation. by Adam and Glo. No, I'll be a ghost writer on that one. Glo, have you met, god dang it, I just forgot her name, Ellie May, the Burlington therapy dog? No. Aw. There's no picture though. No, there is after this ad that was running here. Why is she in a scumbag map? No, we're done with that. We're done. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. We've shifted. So this is a story from channel 22. And this dog looks like a kind of a German short hair. But I guess she's the official greeter now. Oh, that's cool. You know how I'd always bring dogs in and nobody ever stopped me at the Burlington airport, even through the whole COVID bullshit. Anyway, but. That's good, right? Right, Matt? And nobody ever questioned. Nobody ever questioned. And you kept a couple. I used to keep dogs there behind my desk. I know. Yeah. So you're the originator of this program. I am. That's it. And I actually got permission. I want to get credit. We came up with this way before. I got permission from the airport, the people who ran the airport. I says, listen, I have dogs. And at the time it was Pippin. Which is the best. Pippin was the best therapy dog. whoever lived. What kind of dog was it? He was a half Corgi, half Newfoundland hound. So you know what that- He was a newgie. Yeah, he's a newgie. He was very long, very squat, huge head. Oh, he was the most amazing, but he was the friendliest dog who ever lived. He really was a human. I mean, actually, he was the humans we all wish to be. That's, no. If you don't get all inspired to be New Geek. Except he had bad breath. That's the only thing. But everything else. No, well, everyone has a flaw. Every hero has a flaw. But anyways, I used to bring dogs. Yeah. What was the one up in north? Oh, gosh. Wait, no, no. Let's go back to the little tiny one. It looks like- Oh, Thea. Thea. Thea used to be on my desk. People say, why do you have a cat on your desk? It was a cat. She was two pounds. She's about two pounds. She's this little tiny, tiny dog. Missing some teeth. There's a picture I took of you and her where she's next to his water bottle and this thing dwarfs it. She was really small. She was so cute. She loved it. But then I had the other one. The one from up off of North Avenue. Oh, Hadley. Hadley. Yeah, great cockapoo. Yeah, cockapoo. Cockapoo. But yeah, those are the three dogs I brought over there. Because they were great dogs. They were great dogs. I think maybe brought Abby, but she was grumpy dog. Yeah, she was aloof. So you're the originator. Yeah. Yeah, and damn, we don't get any headlines for that. Nope. Should've called the Champlain Valley, whatever this is, Channel 5, or Channel 44. All right, don't. You could tell it wasn't a three homicide kind of day because, right, what do they write about? Well. But it's good. I'd rather have these kind of news Then the other kind of news. I don't look at the last Oh Skip over. I also have not looked at it. Okay. Oh I put this on I got this from New York Post my favorite the paper record Yeah, it's so full of shit Anyways the ten unhappiest states list All right. Unhappy estates. Okay. Are we guessing here? We're guessing. Do they mention any criteria? Yeah. Low possible. I'll give you some of them. Low possible income growth, high suicide rate, low volunteer participation, which tells you something, I guess. Tells them something. It tells me nothing. Tells them something. Residents report a high number of work hours without encouraging income growth. Yeah, I got my number one with a bullet. You have an idea, Glo? Vermont? No, I don't know. West Virginia. Ow! You hit it. Yeah. Number one is West Virginia. Oh, my gosh. Really? Yeah. It's the landlocked state has the worst rates of adult depression, emotional and physical well-being, work environment and adequate sleep of all 50 states. Yeah, they're horribly drug addicted, their industry has been declining, but they've refused to acknowledge it, so they just are sort of in a dying industry that refuses to change, it's not helping them, there's no progress, there's no shift to an alternative. Coal. Are they still digging that out? Someone's got to. You gotta be kidding, but is there that much coal left? No, Joe Manchin's owned by the coal miners. Yeah. Who? The Democratic senator. So what are you going to guess. Guesses of what. Unhappy states. Oh so we know West Virginia for West Virginia is number one. I don't know. Ohio. Because it's in the middle. No. I'm going to guess. OK. It's my turn. Oh I'm sorry. That's how we do this. I'm one of the South. I don't know if I want to go Mississippi or Louisiana, but I'm going to go with Louisiana. Number two. Bam, I'm killing this. Whoa. Okay. I swear I did not look at this list. Okay. Okay. So I got to switch my ... Louisiana, boarding on the Gulf of Mexico. Louisiana, the second worst work environment in the country. The Creole State was also found to have some of the worst rates of sports participation, safety, work hour numbers, and divorce. Sports participation, yes, but sports watching, rather high. Yeah. It's different. You don't get a lot of exercise watching the Saints. All right, honey. Get on the board, Glo. Come on. Get on the board. He's number one and two right off the bat. Yeah, what's... North Dakota. I'll give her both Dakotas. Neither one of the Dakotas. Neither one of the Dakotas. They won't admit it. They won't admit it. All right. I'm staying in the South because of lack of education and opportunity. I don't think there's a lot of growth happening in Mississippi. Mississippi, number seven. OK, on the board. Oh, so now the second was a fourth highest divorce rate. It also ranks terribly in sports participation and safety. All right. Even we participate in sports. We're pretty unsafe about it. We don't have helmets for our football. All right, honey. All right. Get on the board. Kentucky. Number five. All right. Good answer. Good answer. Listen, just stay in the South. You'll be fine. That's a rule. I mean, you got a couple outliers, but yeah, the Bluegrass State has some of the worst rates of adult depression, adequate sleep, and sports participation. Okay. Bunch of fat, lazy people. I'm going Sunbelt. Okay. New Mexico. No. Oh, no. Number nine. Good answer. Highest divorce rate in the U.S. Yeah, that's, everyone knows that. Is there all dried up? High suicide. Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't pass over that comment. What was it? Because they're all dried up. Okay. You talking about like, downstair lady parts, okay. Downtown Molly Brown there. Confucius say, panties not best next, damn it. Confucius say, panties not best thing on earth. but next to it. Okay, New Mexico also has a high suicide rate and low volunteer participation. No volunteers. They all killed themselves. Hey, we've done well, though. Yeah, pretty good. Glo, you have a guess? Okay, okay. Stick to the South. I know it's not Texas, because they are so full of themselves. I'm going to say I'm happy, even though I'm dying. Oh, you're right. I was right, right? Texas is not a lot of fun, right? Wait, did we already say Mississippi? Yes, yes, we did. I'll take Alabama. You got it. Number six, Alabama has poor ratings for adequate sleep, sports participation, volunteering, and safety. All right. So, what's left? Three, eight, and ten? Something like that? There's eight, ten, and three. Okay. Oh, got it. Oh, no, four, four, three and four, three, four, eight and 10. All right. I don't know if I want to go. New Hampshire or if I want to go stay in the South, I think I'm going to stay in the South. I think I'm going Tennessee. Number three. I knew there was something going in third. Tennessee has the second lowest rating for community and environment. All right, now I gotta go with Arkansas. Arkansas, number four. Whoa, good answer, good answer. All in that area. Arkansas is found to have the second lowest rating for residents' emotional and physical well-being. The state also reported some of the most concerning rates of adult depression, sports participation, and safety. Safety seems to be a big thing. I wonder what that means. I don't know. Driving under the influence? No, I don't think so. Not that. So now we got eight and ten. Eight and ten. Are these outliers? Are we going a little bit to the west here? One is a way outlier, and one is close. You could consider it online. Alaska. Got it. Shit! It was my turn. No! But I mean, I said it at the same time. Alaska. I said it, right? I know, but it was my turn. I know. So. Hey. Hey. Hey. Give me half credit, will you? We do it here. Alaska has a high suicide rate, of course. Of course. It's residents report a high number of work hours without encouraging income growth. Yeah, exactly. Double fuck you. Chloe, your last one. One more. It's close to the south. Close to the south. Georgia. That is the south. Okay, okay. Virginia? No, it's the south. Yeah, it's his turn. You're the borderline. He's Southern anyway. I'm not Southern. Right. Only people in the South understand how maps work. He said close to the South. Missouri? No. Now this is my geography starting to shine. Nebraska. No. Just tell us that. Oklahoma. Oh, he's close to the South. It's just as bad, yeah. To me, they all blend. Yeah, Oklahoma's just like shitty Texas. It has low possibility of income growth, which greatly affects its residents' well-being. This is number 10? Yeah. You know, it makes perfect sense that Oklahoma is last. It's like last of the worst. It's like not even number one at being bad. It sums up Oklahoma. Oh, it's true. It feels like that. Well, it's like I don't even ever think ... I never think about Oklahoma unless someone says the word Oklahoma. Me too. Or Oakeys in New York. You have to play. Crossword. You know, you got the Oklahoma University. Yeah. That's the only time I ever think about it. And they used to be good, now they suck, so I don't care anymore. But why would you, why'd you think about Oklahoma? I mean, other than, they're called Okies, aren't they? They're the ones that are the dust bowl? Well, that was a, not just Okies, it was, well, kind of a regional thing. Right, but isn't that the nickname they ended up with? Texas, OK, Oklahoma, Kansas, because they didn't know how to farm. They were just water. That's true, too. All right. I can't help. I already got here. Yeah. All right. Peace. Bye bye. This means that all the nuclear weapons are being activated at the same time. The buzzing will last one minute, and then the end. All life on earth as we know it will be totally destroyed and the earth itself will be blown out of its orbit. This of course is a situation we hope will never happen. 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