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On this week’s show:
(51:21) Break music: Danny LeFrancois “Dancing on the Radio”
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Welcome to Vermont Ketchup with Matt. I'm Matt. Glow. I'm Glow. And I'm Adam. We're a weekly rundown of everything going down in the Green Mountain State. Happy Black Friday, guys. Wow. Did you rush the stores? Get the sales? Get the deals? No. I didn't even realize it was Friday. For some reason. I don't know why. Today's Thanksgiving? Today's Friday. Yeah, yeah. No, I've never been to a Black Friday sale. Really? Never. Me neither. Yeah. Are you kidding? I would not even think of it. What time did you go out this morning? I went out to the gym. It was closed. No, I didn't do either. I think this is the first year that we've all become civilized. I don't think it's that big of a deal. No, they've cut it back. It's all online. Yeah, it's all online now. Instead of getting 60% off the TV, you might get 20% off. It's not worth killing anyone over. It's not worth getting punched out by some old lady. You're watching. The videos of years ago, the people just rushing in there, it's just crazy. It's great. Yeah. It's just like, really? You're going to trample someone so you can get like a microwave half off? Okay. Or a Cabbage Patch Kid. Okay. We were watching this show on the History Channel last night, but it's about toys, how they built America. One of the episodes was on the Cabbage Patch Kids and Barbie, I think, or no, GI Joe and Barbie, but Cabbage Patch Kids and something else. Just like the toys that defined us or something? Something like that. They did Cabbage Patch Kids and then they did Garbage Pail Kids. Yeah, that hit me. The Garbage Pail Kids hit me for sure. Then they got sued by Cabbage Patch Kids? Yeah. Really? Did they lose? I think they did. What? I can't remember now. Maybe I went to bed. I don't know. I don't remember now. That's funny, because until now I have never connected the two, but I didn't either. I guess it makes sense. Yeah, because the Couch Press kids, I didn't know that they had, like, personality. They're just like different colors, right, or something? Yeah, I mean, they were all... they're supposed to be different, but they were all the same kind of thing. But like, was one like a surfer baby, and one's like an accountant baby? Like, well, I think it was more colors, I think. One had blue on? I don't know. I don't remember. They didn't impress me that much. That would be very weird if they did. Yeah. But the Garbage Pail Kids were, yeah, they were just a rip-off of, you know, a guy from Topps' baseball cards started. Oh, I mean, I'm sure he, hopefully he made a lot of money. Yeah, hopefully. They were crazy. But, Glo, you were saying that people went crazy over the Cabbage Patch Kids? Yeah, I think they alluded to that's actually when we started Black Friday or something like that. Really? I think it was the first toy. that people acted that crazy for yeah well we're fine you know who's not fine Queen B Vermont is now down one snack bar so those who don't know Queen B's is a snack bar that's kind of between Heinsberg and Moncton Yeah, I think it has three different town addresses. And Bristol, too. And Bristol, yeah. The exact triangulated pinpoint between Moncton, Bristol and Heinsburg, and you'll find Queen B's. So we've all been there recently because the 70s had a big article about it. Food's fine. Yeah. Nice location. It's kind of hard to get to if you don't know where you're going, I would say. Yeah, you need a GPS. I think it's not exactly on the way. But yeah, they burn down. They said the whole thing went up in about seven minutes. There's not much to it. It's just like a little kind of shanty shack, a giant oversized rocking chair and a couple picnic tables, right? Yeah. Yeah, and this guy in the story, he says, what did he say? He said his son goes by there every day. To eat? I assume. I'm just saying that's a lot of queen bees. Yeah, I had a hamburger and onion rings, and I felt so stuffed. It was just unbelievable. Yeah, but they said they are going to build back better. Good. We'll see. So, yeah, I don't know what the people in Moncton are going to do now. I think they can build this thing back by next summer, right? You just need a grill and a roof. You need to build a building. You need to go through all the process to get it back. They'll just let you do it again if you're just burned down. You can't just be like, just redo the thing I did? I don't know. Gotta have plans, I guess. Gotta go through whatever town they are in. I feel like, I don't know. You can't just build something if you own the property? You can't just build whatever you want? No. That doesn't make any sense. Or at least you're not supposed to. All right, moving on. Daniel Panyai, he's finally agreed to allow police onto his property. So they had a search warrant, it ran out. They had an arrest warrant, it ran out. He tried to... he showed some pictures to the court saying, See, I cleaned up the place. You gotta let somebody on there to look. And then months later, OK, you can look now. That doesn't count. You can't just let him just hang out there for months and you know, tuck away all his whatever We think he's hiding on there. I mean definitely it's guns Think it's something worse. He's moved him. Oh, yeah, he's moved him Yeah, but what kills me is they had a warrant out for this fellow's arrest. They know where he lives They just let it expire 60 days. I guess you just have to be some maniac You know this scare the cops or black kid with a joint. Yeah There's that. Yeah, this dude is free to go. Yeah, he's just now he's like, well, just come on in. Check it out. Right. Everything's fine. You'll see. And of course, the Vermont law enforcement is like, okay, let's go check it out. Thank you. We appreciate your hospitality. Yeah, wasn't it? They had to get him through an environmental court. All right, moving over to Burlington. Matt, you put this on here. Yeah, I just thought it kind of epitomizes what's going on downtown. This Burlington store banana stand? Where is that? That's not Church Street, is it? It's Main. Main. Have you been inside, Glo? No, it's been through a couple of different ownerships, that store. Yeah, they were broken into one night. People smashed things up and destroyed. Then the next night, they did it again. Almost sounds personal. Well, apparently they have... so they're like a vintage clothing store, especially like vintage footwear. Okay, so when I read the story, it said they lost tens of thousands of dollars of stuff. I was like, how the hell is that? But now I'm looking at their website. A pair of Jordan Retro High OG Chicago Lost and Found Men, size 11, $425. Jesus. For used sneakers? Yeah, right. Well, I don't know if they're used. Well, maybe not. But yeah, they're definitely old. Yeah, I think you can get a pair of Jordan 4s for $600. So yeah, they apparently deal with that. I mean, you know, that's essentially jewelry, right? Right. You just run there, grab a bunch of things. I mean, how many shoeboxes can you carry on your way out? It's like a happy couple. Oh, man, they have a GoFundMe. You don't have insurance? Everybody has a GoFundMe. If you're giving money to the store's GoFundMe, like, what? I don't know. Whatever. I'm not going to knock their hustle, but come on. You have insurance. You'll be compensated. But yeah, man, two break-ins. Same day. So they break in, and they came back the same morning. Like, they just came back twice, like, someone broke in. Do you think it's the same person? Like, they broke in, they got home, they're like, God, man, I should've grabbed this other pair of shorts. You know, like, had that, like, regret once you go shopping, you're like, ah, I should've bought that. So they kind of went back and just grabbed it again. Maybe they found a market for what they had stolen and went back to get some more. Yeah, maybe they sold a separate quick. Who around here is buying $600 sneakers? The rich college kids? Yeah, it must be. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they moved it really quickly, so they went back to get more. I don't know. But they said in the story, if you see someone walk around and, like, if you see a homeless person in a vintage Jordans, let us know. Speaking of crime, Governor Scott has a plan to address it. And the ACLU doesn't like it. Is the plan, send in the dogs? Might be. His plan seems pretty reasonable, actually. He is just, he wants to increase penalties for drug trafficking. I think everyone's for that. And include provisions to make it easier to hold repeat offenders. Everyone's for that. So I don't... Is his plan to get rid of Sarah George? I think you have to vote her out. I think she's here to stay, at least for a while. Well, we'll see if anything happens. But the ACLU said they should invest in local housing, treatment, and healthcare programs. Yeah. Can it be all those things? Yeah. Do it all. Like, it doesn't have to be just one thing or the other. Like, holding repeat offenders seems like a pretty easy first step. Yeah. Because you hear all the time, someone's out, that you got three warrants, it's the third time being arrested this week, etc, etc. Like, it's insane how lenient the Vermont judicial system is. You know who's not lenient? Those dickheads, the Boves, the Bove brothers, are at it again. All he's up to is doing some shady shit. So these are the guys who got big PR scandal for them, when they were kicking out their tenants. In Winooski, yeah. And they're slumlords, kicking out their tenants, and they're like, okay, okay, no, no, no, we're gonna fix it up, we're gonna let them stay. And now once everything blows over, they're like, actually, we're kicking them out. Yeah. And they're gonna tear down the buildings and build up new buildings. They keep saying, at market value. What does that mean?$3,000 for a two bedroom? Yeah. Well, they're gonna have three, three bedrooms. Okay. That are for families. What's the price gonna be on those? That's a good question. What does a three bedroom rental go for in Burlington or Winooski? I don't think there's a lot of them, is there? It's got to be north of three, right? It has to be. But you almost get to the point where it's like, just get a mortgage. How much can your rent go? If you have enough money to pay that rent, you would think that you would also have enough to put towards a mortgage. But maybe there is that sweet spot of person who's not... I mean, maybe it's not one family, I'm assuming it's a family, maybe it's three roommates living together. That would make more sense. Yeah. It's almost like in Burlington, there aren't any three bedroom apartments. They're broken up to sell separately to make more money. Definitely. And so yeah, they said that once they rebuild their new building, they will give tenants first choice to come back if they want. Yeah, we just double your rent. We made you live in our shithole for years without fixing it up. Instead of fixing it up, we're actually just going to tear it completely down, and kick you out, but hey, if you can afford the new price, come on back. They also say that they're gonna try to find places for their tenants, but when you have 1% vacancy rate, how do you do that? And how do you define try? I tried. Well, they did try. They called this summit on Kennedy. I think it is, yeah, that one on Kennedy. And they go, we're not holding anything. Hey, they're already booked up. Yeah, can you do something with my tenants so I don't feel so bad? Right. I don't look so bad. I don't feel bad. I don't want it so I don't look so bad. Yeah, these guys are assholes. I've not bought both sauce since. Used to be a staple. No more. I'm not sure if we've ever bought it, have we? We're a ragu household. I make my own. You make your own pasta sauce? Yeah. What are you, a wizard? No, it's easy. What is it? I mean, give me the process. Because I got tired of throwing stuff out. I mean, because I went to buy a jar and, you know, I used half of it. Now I just, you know... Tomato paste? Tomato paste, tomato sauce, cut up a bunch of onions, garlic. Oh, okay. I thought you were like making... I thought you were starting with tomatoes. No, no, no. I don't do that. All right. Well, that's fair. Alright, moving on. Big test for wind in Vermont. Glo, I'm guessing you do not like the wind turbines, or do you like the wind turbines? I'm pretty neutral now. It's better than those ugly telephone poles and everything else we've gotten used to. So, we'll get used to this too. Well, that's the thing, we're not. Eventually. If they want to get their way, they will. Yeah, this one they want to put up would be 500 feet tall. It would be the tallest thing in Vermont. Just one? Yeah. Really? Yeah, this is the whole thing. Like, so, this person? Oh, see. So, this woman, Martha Staskis, she is trying to get up this wind turbine on a farm. Where is it? Stanford? No, where is this? It's southern Vermont. Somewhere in southern Vermont. And the farmers go with it. They say the wind, the power from the windmill would fuel, or sorry, power 925 homes. But they got a bunch of roadblocks. Like one, what was it? Norwich Solar. It's out there going, trying to give people a little bit of information about it, you know, like, hey, this thing's coming, tallest thing in Vermont, gonna be loud. You don't like that. You know, what's not loud? The sun. So they're out there trying to campaign against it. And there's all these like crazy rules about how, what you can do with a wind turbine. So like last week, we talked about decibels, right? Like, was it the Guinness Book of what, like the loudest burp or fart or whatever it was? I forget how many decibels that was a lot. 120 or something like that? So this wind turbine, so if the wind, so this is how they measure it. They go 100 feet from a house and they check the sound and the sound has to be, it cannot be higher than 42 decibels during the day and 39 decibels at night. And this story they say 40 decibels is the the sound level of a quiet library or the hum of a refrigerator. Really? Yeah, so last time I said the comfortable range would be around 50 to 60. So, yeah, where you can tolerate being in a room with that kind of noise, you could do it, but- But they're measuring this 100 feet from a house. So it's like if there's a refrigerator humming 100 feet away from us, we wouldn't hear it, you know what I mean? They don't measure it from the house, they measure it from 100 feet away. Does that not sound crazy? It seems like a really restrictive rule for wind. Yeah, I mean, generally, they don't put these near houses. Well, that's what I'm saying. So yeah, so this is like a big test. If this goes through, then there's some hope. But if not, then everyone saying this pretty much says like Vermont does not want wind power because these rules are written such that it ain't going to happen. Think about 500 feet. It's 100 feet. Oh, 1,500 feet tall. Yeah. That's a tenth of a mile, right? I mean, that's... What's the tallest building down in downtown? 10 stories? Yeah. That's 100 feet. Yeah. 500 feet is very, very tall. You'll be able to see that for 10 miles. Yeah. I mean, maybe one day we'll learn to appreciate the beauty of a wind turbine. Like, you know, it's pretty subjective, right? We're like, oh, a tree is beautiful. Wind turbine, not so much. Because we grew up with trees. We grew up with wind turbines, maybe we'll learn to love them. I don't know. I don't mind them. Well, here's my thing. OK, if you don't like wind, that's fine. But it seems like also they don't like solar. No one wants solar anywhere. You know what I mean? They don't? I mean, you can't put like, there's lots of places you can't just put solar. You have to go through the process. Oh, that's what you mean. Yeah. Right? But that has nothing to do with aesthetics. It's just politics, pretty much. Getting approval to putting up solar panels. I thought it was aesthetics. If you put it on your rooftop, why would that be offensive to anybody? I didn't mean your rooftop, I meant like... Oh, you mean like a whole field full of them? Yeah. I still, like we've talked about, I'd rather have a field full of them than a field full of these enormous apartments that the Boves want to put in. And that to me, you know, now you have no view, you have no beauty, because they're all going to be ugly. These multi-color throw a few things, elements in there. Well, it's not so much. It's the way they do it. It's it's cheap. They smack, they slap them up and like, months not even, you know, so they can't be that. Anyway, I'd rather have solar panels, basically, is what I'm saying. Well, like by St. Mike's, they have the solar panels and they have sheep that live under them, you know? Like, there's a way to make it work. Yeah, it still could be a farm. Yeah, right. You know, it could still be a farm and a solar farm, a regular farm. Agreed. We'll see what happens with the wind in Vermont. It's time might be... Days might be numbered. Glow, your old stomping grounds, Montpelier. I know you're going to say, why do you live in Montpelier? I lived outside of Montpelier, but close enough, right? No, you're right. It was Montpelier. OK. So they don't have a post office anymore. Well, that's really going to be a bitch. I guess they're going to have to go to Worcester, because that's where Middlesex Man went to, because the blood. Worcester? Yeah. I don't even know where that is. That's the next one up from Middlesex. I actually lived more in Worcester then. My mailing address was Worcester. What? And you've been claiming Middlesex this whole time? Because there was no post office in Middlesex because of the flood of November 3rd, 1917. They wiped it out and that was the end. Nobody tried to do anything to rebuild it. What happened to like plucky Vermonters? They just get a post office wiped away and they just give up? Well, so half the mail of Middlesex or more would go to Montpelier, but now I don't know where that's going to go. Maybe all of it's going to bury you. They're setting it to bury, I think. It would have to be buried. I don't think Worcester would be. Worcester was still part of a little general store with a tiny closet. They call it post office with the old-fashioned scales. They didn't even have anything electronic. I don't know if they had electricity. I mean, it was just the old post boxes and brass. Did you have full confidence when you mailed a letter from that post office or a package? Yes, because the mail carrier knew everyone. We almost like knew each other personally. He knew my name, I knew his name. If I saw him on the road, we'd stop and talk. So the post person at that time was part of the community. Well, that would make me trust my package getting to me. But maybe that male person isn't familiar. What if I'm shipping something to South Korea? Does that guy know how to do that? We think so. And it's not going to go straight from there to South Korea. We got a special plane out back, it's gassing up. Yeah, so hopefully somebody in the main department will know the difference between north and south. I know, but they gotta put all the stuff on there, right? They're important, they're the first point of contact. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure they... They could look up the rules, I would think. Well, if they don't have electricity, like Globe made it sound like they got a bucket full of mail, that's all they got. Maybe he had a solar panel on the roof, I don't know. So maybe there was some, but I know the scales. I remember they still had the old-fashioned scale. They should send the mail to Adamant. There you go. That's a lot out of the way, though, right? Yeah. Probably just as far as Barry. I don't know. So yeah, Glo, another post office lost to the flood. The flood of whatever it was. June 15th, wiped out this post office and I guess they were like working outside for a while? At a temporary. They had like, they were literally had like trash cans with fires in it, to like keep warm. Is that a homeless encampment? Nope, that's those are federal employees, that's just the US government employees working over there. So I guess they had to close it. So Vermont's delegation of Peter Welch and Bernie Sanders and Becca Blint are trying to get the post office to do something about it. And what surprised me is the guy that's still running the post office, Louis DeJoy, he was the one that Trump put in to get him to screw up the mail because of mail-in ballots. He's still employed? He's still employed. That guy flew under the radar, huh? Biden? Everybody's asking Biden to get rid of him. I don't know if he can't. I don't know what the story is. What do you mean? We can impeach a president, but we can't get rid of a mail carrier? The Postmaster General. I don't know why he's still employed. He was specifically hired by Trump to slow down the mail. Do you remember when they grilled him at a congressional hearing? and he'd be like, Glow, you've never seen a witness like this. He was stuttering and sweating. It's like, what does a man look like when he's lying? And he's like, uh, uh, just sweat pouring down his face. And he's like, I don't remember. You know, it's just like, dude. Maybe he's terrified of public speaking. Maybe. I mean, he's done a pretty good job of staying off the radar. I didn't even know he was still employed. I thought he went out with the administration. I think if I remember correctly, he can only be fired by like the postal board? I think so. Who's on the postal board? I don't know. I've never even heard of a postal board. Maybe they run the whole show like we just aren't aware of it. It may be because Trump appointed a bunch of people to the postal board. Well, who fires the postal board? I have no idea. Now we're getting into the thing none of us have ever heard of. It's Catch-22. Oh, the postal board cannot be fired. It's like, what? That's interesting. But the delegation, which is Bernie and Peter and all those, in the letter, they set deadlines for the Postal Service to provide Montpelier with a functioning post office, which called for a plan by November 3rd and a new location opened no later than November 13th. Nothing. Nothing's been done. Well, as long as the mail keeps arriving, No one's going to feel any strong impetus to do anything, right? It's not a problem until it's a problem. Postal workers can just work and bury. Moving on. So very local to us. What do you even call this place? The South Burlington Intersection? The Dorset-Wilson Intersection? So we've talked about this many times. It's a nightmare. I'm surprised more people don't get into accidents there. the lane suddenly shifts. If you have no idea, if you've never been there before, or used to, if you've never been there before, you don't know it's coming, it doesn't even really make any sense. There's a sign, but easy to miss, the lines aren't really painted. If they were, if it's snowing or raining, you're not gonna see them. And like, so all the locals know to like, be on a high alert during that little shift, because sometimes people will just keep driving straight, you have to like just be on the lookout. So they changed it. So now the left lane is turn only. No, the left lane is straight and then it can branch off to a left turn only as opposed to having two left turn onlys. Yeah, they used to have two left turns there for some reason. And so this change is estimated to cost $2.8 million. Are you serious? Just painting a different line on the road? And they put a line up. That's all it would take. Oh, okay, the lights, yeah. Well, whatever, they changed it from left arrow to straight arrow. No. I mean, right here, the total cost of the project was $2.8 million. I think part of it is the outside lane. But what did they do to it? Well, they have to fix it so people can get into that new Holiday Inn. I think they're widening it. Is Holiday Inn paying for that? No, we are. See, I thought that was the developer's responsibility. Anybody who takes over and wants to rebuild that old Holiday Inn into something, of course, then they tear it down and start over again, but yeah. So they have the money to do that, but they don't have the money to go and pay for changing the lane over? I don't know. I'm just guessing. That's why it would cost so much, because they do have that outside lane still blocked off. Like, they're going to do something? So it says, as a result of the project, we're able to increase the capacity of the intersection without adding lanes or more pavement. So what the fuck did the money go to? Planning? Someone's like, I don't know. What are we going to do with this? The next thing they need to do is when you're coming the other way is to get those stupid lights Get them synced up? Synced up. Because that's one of the worst places in Chittenden County. But they're not synced up specifically and purposely I think so for people off the interstate can get into that hotel. Because you have to be able to get all the way to the left lane. Oh, I know that, but if you get there, you'll see like five cars will make it through that first green light on Dorset and Williston. It's blocked anyways. And then, but the light right behind it, where the five cars is, is red. So finally that light turns green and that the other light turns red. So you just filling it up with five cars each time. It's crazy. Yeah. We're complaining about traffic on that little area. What drives me crazy is driving to the gym at 5 in the morning, there's no cars on the road, and then that light's red. I'm like, why is this light red? Every other light's flashing, but this one... Except that one. Stop. It makes no sense. It happens every morning. Yeah, that's great. $2.8 million. That really is nuts. What is that going towards? That's what I was saying last week. Things cost way too much when the government builds them. God, this one's a head-scratcher. All right, speaking of head-scratchers, V-Trans is floating the idea of a Route 5 bike path from Massachusetts to Quebec. Does Quebec want this? Does Quebec want to make it easier for people from Massachusetts to get there? We don't even have a train anymore that goes from here to Quebec, like we used to. Where'd he go, Montreal? Yeah, yeah, he used to go straight all the way from New York. Does the bus still run from the airport? Yeah. So, yeah, I'd like to see where... That's a lot of property to have to go through and get permission and do all kinds of stuff, and then you're dealing with two different governments. This is an idea that's not going to happen. It costs too much. And Route 5, if you've ever been on it at any length, it goes to a lot of towns. It's very nice. We did it just two weeks ago. We liked it. We stopped, we saw some stuff, it was great. But there's never enough shoulder on the road to safely accommodate a cyclist. Well, I think this would be like not on the road, it would be like a separate road. Well, I know, but still there's not enough land next to it. Right. It's pretty like things are right up to the road because it was probably, is that what you mean? Yeah. I'm sure it was a very narrow road and they had to take people's property to even get it as wide. Why does it is now? What's how it would be on like Route 5? Where would I see Route 5? St. Johnsbury again. So any White River Junction? It runs the whole length of the east side of the state. It used to be the main artery. That was the highway. Because I remember when I was a kid coming up from Florida, before the interstate, that was the road we took. Because back when Newport was the top of this town? Yeah, well, St. Johnsbury, whatever. That's where we were just going, a little south of there. But you would take the whole, it would be right up next to the Connecticut River, the whole way. And it goes through a lot of towns. And like you say, there's no room anywhere. There's no shoulder. So I don't know how they're gonna do it. They'd have to be blasting a lot of the rock out. Why would they float this out here? Because they said they're not even sure where the money would come from. Was this just some person's like, I have an idea. This is crazy. I have lots of ideas, but it doesn't get posted. I don't even put it on Facebook, let alone national news. Yeah, if you read through the story, they're like, well, it's going to be complicated. It's 200 miles, it's going through a bunch of towns. I don't think in terms of the cost and engineering, it'd be feasible. It's not like the rail trail that's already there, and they're not using it. It's an old railroad across the state. Is there a big demand for a bike path from Massachusetts to Quebec? Right? Well, you know, going down the West Coast, they did accommodate all the way from Canada, because we, anyway, from Canada all the way through to the very tip of California. There are bike trails in order to be able to do it. But I gotta tell you, it's kind of dangerous because the one there alongside the ocean in the northern part, there's really not much of a... there's no shoulder, and you're looking straight down a cliff into the ocean. I don't even want to drive on that road. I know. I mean, yeah, so... and then you have strong winds to deal with, and you're balancing your panniers, And it was very hairy. I remember my hands hurting the most out of anything because of the tension of holding on to those handlebars. Dear life. How many miles did you do it, like up and down or whatever? I can't remember how. I mean, I don't know. I didn't bother at the time to even measure. You weren't thinking in those terms? No. But what they had was hike and bike campsites all along the way. So you would have to at least bicycle probably around 30 miles. Although hikers, wait a minute, what am I saying? But anyway, it was doable. I feel like 30 miles on a bike is not crazy in a day. Especially for what we were doing. No, a day trip was usually at least 50, 60, 60, maybe more between towns. So, and you don't, you think of California as having like, California is so barren of cult, of culture for most of the part of California, most of it. It was amazing what we, we couldn't find a whole wee bread for like hundreds of miles. Yeah, like California, like from San Francisco to Oregon, it's far, right? Like, it's like you think of San Francisco as like Northern California. It's like, no, it's like, there's, oh, there's a whole other world after that. Yeah. Like I have a really bad concept of like how far that is, like from. And we went up that hill that's on the northern side of the Golden Gate Bridge to Manami or some and it's way something up there. It was nothing but I'd say 90 degree going uphill with switchback turns. So the turns, you're pretty much like falling backwards because you're that much of a pitch and turning. Yeah, Mount... Mount starts with a T, but we made it. I mean, it was killer. The bike business is huge. Yeah, it is. It's huge, and it's huge in the state. On the west side of the state, people go all the way up, And then they hop on the one in Burlington, and they hop on the boat, take some crusts. I'll say if you go up just north of the border into Quebec, if you go up the, what's ours, Highgate? Is that the one, the main one on 89? If you take your first right, and just go east along the border, that is full of cyclists. Like there's tons of them, like when the weather's not as big. But this one, they said, like, they said there's so much will be really easy because there's like a bike-to-rail thing where, like, they use, like, I don't know if it's like old railways. I guess they're not current. I guess they're not current railways. That'd be a mess. The rails-to-trails conservancy. So they said, like, you know, from Concord to Lebanon would be easy. I don't know how far that is. So have they already claimed these old tracks or something? I don't... apparently it's some program, a national non-profit trail building organization that does it. I don't know if they've already claimed them. But it saddens me to think that we're also losing all these old railroad tracks and trails. I mean, they're not being used, these are being repurposed, right? I know, I know. But it'd be nice if we had more transit, public transit. And here we are, we're tearing up public transit. Oh, hey, public transit. I'm on board. So you've said Concord to Lebanon. That's New Hampshire, isn't it? Yeah. Well, Concord's in New Hampshire, and Lebanon is also... Maybe I read this wrong. The Route 5 corridor could easily connect to the Northern Rail Trail, which runs from Concord to Lebanon. Oh, okay. Oh, sorry, so they're... That's another thing. They're trying to make this not just its own thing, but connect to the existing arteries. Makes sense. Yeah, there's a lot of those again around that Middlesex, but northern part of Vermont. There's a lot of old trails, but they left them as like just dirt. They didn't pave them or anything like that. Some people like that. Some of those bikers, they like the gravel trails. It's like more exciting or something. Not me. You don't like any trails? I mean, come on. I mean, someone died over the summer doing one of those trails. What do you mean? Died how? In a race. In a bike race. Well, okay, now you're asking for it. Yeah. Right? I mean, bike race? Yeah. I forget what it's called. It's called something crazy like the devil's bargain or something, where all these people go on these gravel trails and there's hundreds of people and this guy died. But you know what? Now that I think about it, I didn't do that, but I've done the five borough bicycle ride many times. I don't know about many times, but that's the five boroughs of New York. And we're like packed, bicycle to bicycle. And we're going all pretty darn fast over that George Washington Bridge or whatever bridge it was. They had us crisscrossing back and forth to get to the five boroughs. And then you took the ferry to Staten Island. I mean, that was one day thing. I'm trying to imagine you decked out in bicycle gear. Oh, when I first put on that girdle-like bicycle pants for the first time, not many people were using them yet, and I got really thirsty. A bit ahead of the curve, fashion-wise. I was so embarrassed, I think I walked backwards into a store, not backwards, kind of like, I wouldn't turn around so anybody could see my padded ass. But I felt so ridiculous, but I needed water, more water, I already drank all the water I had. Your ass is padded, that's probably a good thing for long rides, right? Yeah, but it's also because of the tightness down to your skin, there's no chafing. Because it's like liquor, you know, it just smooths against over smooth rather than skin on skin. So they're very useful and they're great for bicycling. But at first, you know, until people saw them more and more and more to be one of the first, not first. Believe me, there was already people out there using them before me, but they're hard. I imagine people doing the Five Boroughs bike track are probably the first adopters of that kind of fashion. Probably, yeah. And not everybody was like that kind of, you know, with the advertisements on their really tight shirts with the banana sticking out of the pocket in the back. Not everybody was like that. Banana? Yeah, those bicycle shirts have two deep pockets. For bananas? Yeah. Well, bananas, water, whatever, but usually banana. It's because they run out- Is there a cucumber in there if I want? Not any near the amount of energy a banana can give you. That's true. I mean, he'll just be pissing it 10 minutes down the road. Probably hydrated. But yeah, and so if I think about it, that was hairy, but it didn't even, only thinking back do I think it was hairy doing it, I didn't think it was. Whenever I see those like pelotons of people like all clumped together, just pedaling, I'm like, I don't even like walking next to people. I can't imagine like high, like bicycling, like the top effort, you know, seems. Would you do something like that on your own or a very small group? Or is it better to be in a massive group to travel in the five boroughs like that? I'd say a massive group. Is it safer because people just can see you coming? Well, for one thing, the roads are all closed off. The police have them blocked. It's like a thing. It's a thing. It's an event. I thought it was like, hey, today, let's do that thing. Let's do like the there's like a mapped out unofficial course that you could do now. I thought okay. It's okay. It's a thing Yeah, no, it's an event But and I don't even know if they do it anymore Cuz can you imagine you have to close off all those main arteries in five boroughs that alone could just Could be like total mayhem Really I've done it up in Montreal to the same kind of events, you know, we're You're right. I feel like Montreal, they're more likely to just close shit and just do with it. Suck me, blah, blah, blah, you know? They just don't care. Exactly. Yeah. It was much more relaxed, I think, up there. Yeah. In San Francisco, we used to have a group that on Fridays would ride, hundreds of them, but they weren't sanctioned by the city, so nothing was closed off. They were just trying to make a point. Were you part of that? No. No, I didn't think so. I was behind it once in a cab. That's like, I would occasionally shake my fist. You were the one beeping a horn in the cab. I didn't care. I thought it was pretty cool. It was kind of an anarchy thing, you know. And you didn't know where... They knew where they were going to be, but they weren't advertised. The only problem is, they don't always... Okay, my problem with cyclists is, you have to pick. Are you a pedestrian or are you a car? Like, you know... You have to be... You treat yourself, and the traffic should treat you as a car. Yes. But, but, try to say that to a car driver when you are in the left lane, because you now need to make that left turn. Even if your arm is sticking out, but your bike is taking up that whole lane, or even if you hug the left shoulder of that lane, they don't understand, or they start getting angry and beeping shit out of their car, because why? I've experienced here. Oh, I know. Do you see me riding a bike anymore? No, I know people who are in cars are largely documented as being a lot of morons But the cyclists who don't stop at stop signs are also morons Oh, yeah, but unless it's like in the middle of the night you're talking about you're coming back from the gym Okay If it's the middle of the night, I'm driving and I don't even stop at stop signs No, I'm just kidding I don't even stop signs with my car, let alone my bike She doesn't I'm just saying like, yeah I don't, I mean, you know She eases. I ease. Oh yeah, it's a California roll. You ease into it and you keep on going. Because, look, you can't stop if it's icy. You can't stop. Absolutely not. You've got to keep it going. Yeah, especially with my golf car. Yeah, just glide. I had to come up that cliff street up here at the stop sign of our street. No way in fucking hell was I ever going to stop when it was icy. No way. She had the momentum. Yeah. I mean, because if I stopped, I just started rolling back. That's when you start using the horn. I'm coming, I'm coming through. We got one more story. The Whale Tales. Everyone's familiar with the Whale Tales, right? Yeah, we are, yeah. So this story is about the guy that decorates them for the holidays. Oh, isn't that nice? Is it? This guy spends eight hours. And how many thousands of lights? Oh, yeah. I mean, I have nothing against the Whale Tales and the lights. I think that's great, except, well, 2,600 lights. What are you going to say? That used to be all one big dog walking area on the highway. Yeah. Oh, come on. We've driven on 89 already. And I've even said to you, they were building the first building. It's a big ugly warehouse that's now what you see along on 89. Yeah. That used to be that big wide open area that you obviously probably never noticed. but that day we were driving and I said, there goes the rest of whatever open area we have for walking dogs. I've never seen anyone walking over there. But I guess maybe they've always been doing constructions since I've been here. Cause you just, I don't even know how you, how do you get there? You go there, it's like by the South Burlington Planet Fitness, like that area, is how you'd access that part. You know, Huntsburg Road, right? Yeah. And you know, Tilly Drive, where a lot of UVM medical stuff is now? I think so. You can get from there. And then you could also go down where you're going to your gym on Kimball Drive. Yeah, I think that little circle. I forget where I'm going here. Where am I going again? The Whales' Hill. Was that off of Marshall? What am I talking about? You look at it every morning when you go to the gym. Well, I don't ever go that far. There's like, I don't ever access that. But whenever you were walking, let's say, into the gym. Yeah. Of course, you're not going to see it because you're going into the gym. But if you're coming out of the gym, you would see, okay, your parking lot, the street, and that big open area, then 89. Yeah, that's going to be to my right, but there's buildings all there now. You can't really see it. Exactly, that's my point. That's what I've been trying to tell you. Just as of only last year, that was a big, open, wide area. We're talking like a couple miles. But I've never heard of or seen anyone take dogs out there is what I was saying. Well, then you first of all, if you you're not the kind of person who's going to notice stuff, right? Guess not, because I've walked dogs there many times, but it wasn't the safest. No, I've never heard you say like we're out by the whale tail. You know, I've never heard you say that in conversation. Well, for one thing, I've stopped going so much out of my way to walk dogs like I used to. So I haven't talked about them going there in a long time. It was too dangerous anyways. There was holes in the fence. Yeah, well, a couple of my dogs, Rosie Poggle, she found, I mean, it's the cheapest rotting, broken down fence that's blocking you from interstate highway 89. So Rosie sees a dead seagull in the median and runs across, goes through one of these holes. No, after that, I stay far, far away from that fence, especially with that dog. She was not the brightest. Yeah. So anyway, the history of whale tails and why it brings pain and sadness to me. Okay, sorry, I brought it up. This is a nice holiday story about this guy who decorates the whale tails. My bad. I just saw him, we just saw him the other night. I know. And that was the first night they were lit. Yeah, it was very pretty. Oh, really? It was the first time? That was very nice. Yeah, no. Now I'm looking at this ugly warehouse. That's great. You know, just keep doing this. You know, just, we'll just look like New Jersey in no time. All right, I think it's time for a break. The song is from Danny Lefrancois. The song is Dancing on the Radio. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the board. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the board. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the board. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the board. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the board. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the back. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the back. I'm going to make a hole in the middle of the back. I'm going to make a hole in the bottom of the plate. I'm going to make a hole in the bottom of the plate. I'm going to make a hole in the bottom of the plate. I'm going to make a hole in the bottom of the plate. The only, the only thing to see is when I was seventeen The only time I'd be running Alright, we're back We have a, is this a positive cop story? I think so The Windsor Police Department is growing Which is the opposite of every other police department in Vermont Which is weird, like everywhere is shedding cops, no one wants to be a police officer anywhere, especially in Burlington. And this guy is growing his force. This is Windsor County Sheriff, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Windsor County. Windsor County. So that includes Woodstock, I guess, right? That area? Well, part of why they're so big is because they're taking care of so many of these small towns. that are, you know, the small towns pay them to answer calls, so they need a lot of them. Because generally, sheriffs in Vermont, you see them directing traffic, sitting out there, you know, construction projects with their lights on. Really? Yeah, it's the sheriffs, you know, like Chittenden County Sheriff's Department. I feel like I'd never see police. I mean that in a good way. Like, okay. I mean, I'm also not out very much, so there's that. I think the sheriffs are generally, they serve warrants and things like that, but they're not doing a lot of detective work. I mean, maybe there in Windsor they are, but most places they aren't. This guy said he's worried about violent crime, but he says he thinks he's attracting officers because of his youthful approach. What does that mean? He's got like whoopee cushions in the fucking barracks? Like, I don't, they give no explanation of that comment. His youthful approach. Nobody questioned him either, right? Like no one asked him? Like, well, it's like, what do you mean by that, sir? Like, that would be a nice follow-up question. Doesn't make the cut at WCAX. Nope. They don't have any need for that. We're on to the next paragraph. But yeah, so he says he is, he's concerned with repeat offenders and how we deal with bail, but he also wants to be compassionate, so. Sounds like this guy's got a career in politics ahead of him. Well, he must be doing something, right? If people want to work there. 100%. Doing something. Godspeed, Windsor County. Matt, is this about the steam? Yes. I did not read this. I think we talked about this a while back to see if it was going to be fiscally responsible. for the power plant to heat the hospital. Yes. It's wasted steam. Because they were just shooting their steam into the air. And they're like, put it in this pipe and you can power the hospital. They're like, people were against it, right? Seemed so at the time. But not anymore. The city council just voted six to four to pass it. Really? But wait a minute, has the hospital said, sure, we would love your steam? I think that's part of the deal. For how much? Or is it cheap? Or free? Or what? Well, it's a $42 million project. So who's going to pay for it? The hospital? Well, they should pay for it. They've got to put a big pipe in, right? How much does a big pipe cost? To get it from there to there. You know how many wires and all kinds of crap are under the road you drive your car on? It's amazing. Put the pipe above the road. Just put it alongside the road. Oh, Gloria would love that. She already hates the telephone poles. It's a big pipeline. Make it look cool. I don't know. People put graffiti on it. We got used to telephone wires. No one liked that when they first happened. Now we just deal with it, right? Birds love them. Actually, Burlington Electric opposes it. Of course. Because they don't want people getting their energy from anywhere else. i don't know who voted against it i want to see if i'm it was the progressive why uh... see though uh... one democrat men no couple democrats uh... all a recuse themselves for some reason i wasn't that that like the legality good but not good enough right was not the whole argument like yes he was good but not as good as being totally carbon neutral or whatever that's what they could course makes of course No power is better than U-16 power, but it's not an option. Yeah, for some reason, a couple of people recused themselves from the vote. Maybe they're getting campaign funds from Berlin Electric? Maybe they work for Berlin. I don't know. At this point, I want to know who is paying for this. Is it the city? Is it a collaborative thing with the hospital? Are they paying for it? Because $42 million, a lot of money that they could use for something else. We have too many counselors. Well, that was that just happened a couple years ago. Let's see. All right. Yeah, so UVM made it clear that they had no alternative that would be as good as this possibility so as far as like emissions mm-hmm well all right steam steam heat taking it back to the 1890s or like what was steam big it's probably more than that right what was like steam engines like that like the 1830s steam engines I think it was the 1800s, I think, right? I don't know. I gotta look this up. What's inside the tenement buildings, the heat they have? Those big metal ones, the heavy... What buildings? Like if you're in a New York City building, you have that big old heavy metal heating system. Is that steam? Like a big boiler room? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. 1712, first steam engine. Wow. That's crazy, it's that old. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. So, was that the train? Well, this was the first useful steam engine, was invented by Thomas Newcomen in 1712. It was used to pump water out of mines. It wasn't transport, but it was like, this guy figured it out. Wow. Eventually, you get into it. I like the thing called the first useful, Steve mentioned. It's like, it's something I've been like, what are you using it for? It's for your use. I can't figure out how to use it. But it works. I'm always fascinated by stuff like this, like things like, there's some weird facts like Abraham Lincoln, samurais, and fax machines all existed at the same time. You know what I mean? There's always weird stuff like that. You don't think of like, I don't think of like Samurais, like the steam engine existed when Samurais were alive, which seems like opposite of like how I think about the world. Yeah, exactly. It's a skewed. Yeah. Thanks, Hollywood. All right, so we got steam, that's good. Oh, our favorite principal. Leave this woman alone, you know, like, so this woman, she resigned. Yeah. Why? I don't know if you remember this, this woman, there was a fight at school. She pulled the fire alarm to break up the fight. It worked, but then she went on leave because it's a crime to pull a fire alarm when there's no fire. And then she eventually had to resign. I liked her because of the bus incident. Yeah. She was following a bus and it was very unruly. And she jumped on the bus and started screaming at the kids. Told the kids about their asses. I mean, she's got my vote that keeps the job. That's what I'm saying. But we haven't worked with her. Maybe there's more to it. Maybe there's, you know, oh, here's our opportunity. Maybe she's abrasive. I don't know. I mean, obviously she is, because she wouldn't stop a bus and start yelling at the kids. Right. That's not a shrieking violet. No. Sounds like something you'd do. If you were in charge. I would. That's why I'm all for this woman. What's interesting is that she didn't get fired. She resigned. Because she... Yeah, why? That's a good question. Is there a deal in place? Did she walk away with some of her salary? It could be more to Glo's point. It could be there was more to the story than we... They don't really want to get into it. Maybe they forced her to resign. But she's what, the third principal in four years? I mean, she, I mean, well, it's like, so before we get to that, like, she did commit a crime. There's probably something in the contract where you can't commit a crime, right? She did that. So, they had her, you know? Yeah, I know, over something so stupid and minor because, I mean, if you want to talk crime, you could just go down a church street. Now that's crime. Agreed. I mean, there was a Burlington high school student who shot a kid in like Bristol like a month ago. 14 year old kid. So maybe that fire alarm saved a kid's life. Who knows? She should be heralded as a hero. She may have... We don't know that. There was a fight that was out of hand. Nobody knew where it was going. And she quickly got it stopped. I'm surprised the kid stopped. I mean, those kids are well trained to obey fire alarms. She was like, whoa, single file, single file. They actually had a picture, I think, Channel 3 posted a picture of her pulling the... It looked like she was fucking posing for it. It's such a clear shot of her doing it. It's like, ah, damn it. But yeah, would you say she's like the third one in four years? I'm surprised this hasn't gone viral. Her story? Yeah. I don't know. The whole bus thing, And I'd be interested in knowing what reactions she gets from other people. Yeah. Maybe she's been getting offers. Yeah, from tougher schools. It was like, we want her. You know, that could be it. Because, I don't know. I grew up in a time period where none of this would matter. You know, first of all, there wasn't any teacher coming to your help in the first place but... You and I grew up in a time when discipline mattered in school. Yeah. And we were all afraid of the teachers. We were. Yeah. It wasn't a fun... And the principal, whoever, we were all afraid of. That's not what the deal is today. You know, it's different, so... And I wonder if we learn better because we were under stress. We were scared. We were dressed, so our brains were pumping adrenaline and their brains were sharp, maybe Well, I mean, we actually could get licks, you know, paddled and those kind of things Oh, right, yeah, worse than that Here's a couple of things, so I guess when she was hired, they didn't even know about the bus incident Like, she wasn't hired because of it, so they found out after she was hired You don't Google, you go through this intense vetting process to hire a person, you don't Google them to see their name pop up in a newspaper article? Come on. Anybody can get fired in Vermont, nobody can get fired. Anybody can get hired, but nobody can get fired. This woman got fired. Oh, so you get five years' resign, yeah. And so this is, going back to what y'all were saying about how kids these days, this is her apologizing for pulling the alarm. I realize that this alternative was stressful in the moment as fire drills are surprising in signal and emergency. I regret if any student or staff member is experiencing any lingering unsettledness. From the fire alarm I pulled a month ago, are you still feeling trauma from that experience of walking outside the building. You better be homeschooled, kid. I mean, come on! Or was there a stampede? It goes, fire! You know, was there something like that? No. You know, they probably figured, oh, I don't smell anything. It's another one of those. It's a beautiful day out. We get bomb threats every other week. You know what I mean? Like, some kid waking up screaming in the middle of the night. He's like, oh, oh, Sally, are you okay? Fire alarm. Fire alarm. He just kept ringing. He kept ringing. I remember how many of those practice fire alarms, I don't know about you, but we had quite a few of them And they were always on beautiful sunny day Everybody's just like, you know bouncing down the stairs, but we didn't take it seriously You get to go walk around and go find people you don't normally talk to you at that time of day You're like, hey, what class are you in? That was cool. We had duck and cover Did you have that? No, cuz you're a few you're two years older than me Because we had to get under our desk. In case there's a nuclear bomb. Because you were born in 55... Maybe we shouldn't give us that much personal information out, but anyway. Anyhow, social security number is... Plus, we lived during the Cuban Missile Crisis. We weren't too far away from Cuba. Yeah, so you had more reason to be under your desk. Yeah, which would totally... Right, did nothing. Yeah. Duck more. You should have ducked more, kids. Get lower to the ground. The bomb's coming. Yeah, so she resigned. It'd be interesting to see where she pops up. Yeah, maybe she'll get a better job, maybe. And it'll also be interesting to see who they hire next. Like, what direction do they go? Gotta check another box. You know, it's not gonna look good for the next applicant. I mean, how many did you go through and how many years? You know what I mean? Three or four years, and you're still at Macy's? Yeah, should I throw my hat in the ring? They probably make six figures, right? So who are you gonna get? Why not? Yeah, I don't know. Throw a hat? I could be principal. Go for it. At least for a couple of years, then I'll resign and scandal. Oh man, make me your vice principal. Perfect. You can be my enforcer. You got it, baby. A little good cop, bad cop. They're looking for a vice principal, too. I'll be the politician, you be the pit bull. If nothing else, we got a good TV sitcom going for us. It would be something, wouldn't it? Yeah. We have so much material here that we could have written so many of these sitcoms. My only condition of taking this job is that I don't want to talk to any parents. And especially I will make sure I have that condition. Parents don't want to talk to you. I won't talk to anybody and they don't want to talk to you. Yeah, as long as I don't talk to any parents, cool, I'll take it. I also don't want to talk to any administrators. That's everybody now. No one in the city. Kids and custodial staff. That's who I'm down with. I'll talk to the teachers. Yeah, you'll be hanging out with the custodians. In the boiler room. Yeah, I'll be, me and the janitor will be taking little nips of whiskey in the winter. Shoveling coal to produce steam or whatever that we're doing these days for energy. Yeah, steam. Steam's out. Oh no, steam's in. All right, so Mount Snow, this is a resort, what is this? Yeah, it's a ski resort. Yeah, it's south of here. This is funny, Dover. A Mount Snow employee was fired because his employer said that he was sleeping. He said, I was praying. He's standing up with his eyes open? No, eyes closed. He's Muslim. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I neglected to add that part, just so that's some wacko praying. Yeah, the guy's name is Asim Amin. And so the employer had also indicated dissatisfaction with prayer breaks. And apparently this guy had a history of discriminating against Mt. Snow employees who are persons of color. I'm trying to find the exact quote here where they talk about how it went down. Yeah, this is like one of those he said, he said kind of things. Yeah, in the suit, Amin contends he was not sleeping, but had closed his eyes during prayer, with each prayer session being about seven minutes. Is that a little nap? Is that a prayer? So they were complaining about how many times a day he was praying? Yeah. What is it, like, five times during the whole day, right? I think. Is it? I think so. So that's 35 minutes total. But part of that is probably before he even gets to work and after work, you know what I mean? So that's like the whole day. Well, that's like everybody's coffee break or smoke break. Smoke breaks? I don't think we get smoke breaks anymore. They used to. I mean, smokers get them. It's very discriminatory. It is. Yeah, so we'll see what happens with this. But I just thought it was interesting that this guy was praying. Someone's like, let's leave him. He's like, I'm praying. I mean, it's not like he was laying down and snoring away, right? He might have been on his knees kneeling, you know? Yeah. They don't really say in the story, though. What exactly, what position he was in? If he's on his knees, then he's praying. That's praying. Maybe he's under a tree with a sombrero going down his eyes, and he's laying, and maybe it's a little bit of a nap. A little black mask. If you've got pillows and a fluffy robe, then maybe he's sleeping, right? And there's also some contention on his record as an employee. Apparently he's not a great employee, apparently the employer is not a great employer. You deserve each other. It's also one of those things, if you win your suit, are you going to go back? Yeah. What happens then? Do you get your job back? Is that really what you want? Going over to Essex, we talked about this before. The scandal continues for ducks and cannabis. So apparently this dude, Struthers, he grows weed, he's got a duck coop, the ducks duck poop, apparently is great fertilizer, Chloe? I know it is. Okay, yeah. Chicken poop too. Yeah. So neighbors are complaining because of the ducks. They don't like the ducks? They don't like the ducks. Or they don't like the pot plants. I think they also don't like him. He seems to be a bit abrasive of a character Ducks could be loud. Ducks could be loud. They could be stinky especially how many ducks? From the picture. It looks like quite a bit. I want to say he has 30. Oh, I thought I heard it. Yeah, that's a lot Depends on how far the neighbors are that can start getting start getting stinky. The problem with ducks is like they don't listen No, they're not. Yeah What did you say? No, I'm just thinking of a duck listening to you. Okay, I get what you're saying. If a duck's coming towards you, you better... You better duck. You better get out of the way. A duck's not going to slow down. Ducks are pretty stubborn. They can be mean. Yeah, they're mean, too. They're bullies. That's geese. Geese are definitely the ones that will come after you and nip you in the ass. I'll punch a geese in the face. Oh yeah? Try it, because the whole bunch comes after you You've got to chop them in the neck Oh, you're going to do your old karate kick thing? Oh, yeah Oh, what belt were you? I was a black belt I remember you saying that Wow You don't want none of this Yes And the ducks don't either Do you have any pictures? Pictures? Of you being, never, okay, back to the story Of me fighting crime on the streets of Taiso? No, it's all done under the cover of night Ninja Yeah, back to the ducks So this guy, he got injured in a skydiving accident, which is a sentence you don't hear very often. Usually everything went fine, or that's it. So he was injured, and he said farming is the only work he can do because of his spinal injury, which doesn't quite check out. Yeah. Seems like to be one of the last things you could do. Well, I guess you could pick, but not lift. You can pick, but you can't lift. You can duck, but you can't roll. Plus, the stuff he's growing is what he uses for medicine. Oh, so it's only for himself? No, no, he sells to dispensaries. He's growing a bunch. But he says the duck poop is the key to his strength. Yeah, and I'm all for that. But again, what are the neighbors complaining about? What's their beef? Besides that they don't like the guy. Well, they don't like the guy because I guess like, you know, you know how it is, right? Like this, this weirdo moves in. He's probably not super talkative. He's probably not bringing over some tarts to say hi. Welcome to the, I'm new in the neighborhood. He's got ducks. You go over to complain about the ducks. He starts yelling at you. Next thing you know, he's, he's got a dead deer and he's cleaning it on your fence. And that's weird. And you know, he's just doing a bunch of stuff that is generally abrasive. Hmm. Not a good neighbor. No, probably not. Wait a minute. He actually did that. He did a dead deer and gutted it on a neighbor's fence. They said he processed it on the fence, on their fence or anything. I mean, it doesn't matter. That's very close. I'm not sure. That's a good way to perch it up, though. Yeah. Prop it up, I mean. And that's what that means. Processing a deer means cleaning it, right? Like a dead deer. I mean, I wouldn't like that. Can you imagine if all of a sudden we get somebody who decides he's going to gut a deer back here on the side of the road. That too. Yeah, I wouldn't want to watch it. Not let alone the after. Right, right, right. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, I could see, you know, he needs to learn some etiquette. This guy's not learning. This guy is who he is. He probably dropped on his head. Well, he dropped on his back. Oh, he lived Plot twist this guy's been a ghost the whole time Ghost with ducks So yeah, we'll uh, we'll see what comes of this man. Also, there's a big Like the state in the city have like different laws regarding weed and ducks and stuff and what you can do with your home Yeah, they tried to get him to pull his, the state to pull his weed license, but they said he's not really doing anything wrong, you know. And they renewed it. Yeah, they renewed it. He's following the rules, so can't pull it. But he, I wanted to read you this, but he uses, growing cannabis was a dream of his, he said. When he was growing up, he had a blood vessel wrapped around his intestine that made it hard for him to eat. He said something only smoking weed relieved. Sounds like me. Yeah? Yeah. So how old was he when he started? I mean, didn't this thing already start, was there, went from like birth? Sounds like he was a kid, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. And his parents just let him start either ingesting or smoking weed? The story doesn't say that. You know me, I'm the investigative reporter here. This is even a bigger story. They don't have that level of detail. Right. You gotta go to seven days for that. The last samurai, by the way, died in 1877. Wow. Wow! That late. Yeah. That's, you know, it's the same for me, too, you know. It's not just... I know I'm not like the only dumb person in the world who walks around not knowing stuff like yeah, I know Yeah, my whole life is people just educating me Moving on we should put this as put this in our education block, but uh yeah bad order A parent is concerned after her child was stabbed at the People's Academy What is the People's Academy? And why does it sound like like a deep programming camp? Elmore, like, I don't know, it's down, which leads me to my question, it's in Lamoille County. Oh, Elmore, it's between Middlesex and Jeffersonville. Between Worcester, to get it even closer, and yeah. I know where that is. Alright, so I guess they have a school called the People's Academy, and... Mennonites live out there. Just wanted to let you know. All right, well, I just want you to know you've got Mennonites in the neighborhood. Act accordingly. So this woman, her son got stabbed in the hand with a 6-inch long serrated knife. By another kid? Yeah. Was it a plastic knife? No. A real knife? Yeah. Stabbed through the hand. Are you kidding? How old are these kids? A sophomore, so, what is that, 15? Oh, okay, now we're talking. Okay, now we got a rumble. What did you think it was? Five? A couple five-year-olds having a knife fight? You know why? Because I think there's like a preschool place around here that has that name. And that's what I was thinking. So I was thinking these kids are like four or five years old. Sharks in the jet. There's only one milk left. Fight you for it. Yeah, so he got stabbed in the hand, and apparently, so then the principal, still has a job, by the way, Phil Grant, was like, don't worry about it. And he told her to keep the incident under wraps. Let's just keep this between you and me. And then later, he's telling her, so your son, he's come to school with this, this, and this, so the other kid can come back. So I guess the other kid was kicked out, or whatever, temporarily, whatever they call it, suspended, because he stabbed a kid through the hand, and they're like, what? The kid's coming back? They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's coming back. So then the mom went to the police, and the principal's like, what are you doing involving the police? Just a stabbing. Just a simple stabbing between classmates. This story is so bizarre, the reaction. It's almost like the opposite of reaction that most schools would do. Burlington, we freak out over a fire drill. Right. Lamoille County, they're like, just what, stabbed your hand? So? You want a band-aid? You got another one, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. And the cops are like, eh, nothing we can do about it. Everyone's just kind of like, Yeah, everyone's just dealing with this woman, like, what's the big deal? And she's losing her mind. Like, why does no one care about this? It's like the wild, wild west out east in Vermont. Wild, wild west out east. Right. In Vermont. Right. Right? Yeah. That's what it is. It's like we are so city-fied that we hold on to those rules like a bunch of lawyers, while those people, hey, they just go with whatever, you know? They just go with the flow. Well, the stabber has returned to school in early November, but he's separated from the other kid. That's it? That's it. First of all, don't you think there's going to be something in the future of this child? Plus, those two kids also have friends. You know, it's like there's a little ecosystem, you know? and like, they're... Well, imagine the kid that gets stabbed and says, he says, my son is definitely feeling extremely uncomfortable. Of course he is. Because it could be his back next time. He could be in the locker. His hand hurts. Yeah. Because it was stabbed. That's pretty serious damage you could do to your hand. Putting a knife through it. Yeah, and actually it happened to be, the kid pulled a knife on him and they got into a tussle and he stabbed him through the hand. So they're saying, I mean, it was an accident. Oh, right. Because why would he be carrying a knife in the first place? What, they have tough steak at school? The steak's not to my liking, so I bring my own steak knives. Also, I stab kids. It's in Morristown. Okay. There's the difference. I get those names all confused. And the other parents heard nothing about this incident? No. Yeah. They're finding out word of mouth. Like, there was no, like, announcement. There was no, like... And do we know what the reaction was? Yeah, there's... They're like, what? I hope they're slapping... Well, maybe not slapping him around. But... No, it's very, very... I just looked it up. It's a very progressive school. Established in 1847, People's Academy has a long history of innovation and excellence. PA recognizes that each child is an individual and that all children are creative and that all children need to succeed. And we don't talk about stabbing. Right. Because it doesn't exist in our school. And the stabber's parents have more money than the stabby's parents. The stabber's parent works there. Oh, see. He's a teacher. See, I really could figure this out. You see how I can like just easily go down that hole. What does he teach? I don't know. Knife fighting? Yeah, he works there. Okay. So there was something more to it. He's a parent, so I don't know. But it sounded like a man. Yeah, there was something more. Alright, moving over to... what the hell town is this? Warren. So they had like a land use planning committee in Warren, and they quit and left the state. The whole bunch? Yeah, well it was a committee working with people from... it was a company working with Warren, and they just said, eh, we don't want to work here anymore, and they left. We don't want to work with this town. They got fed up. They fired the town. They fired the town. And they spent how much money on this? Consulting. That's the gig. That's the gig. Getting there, like, because the Warren commissioners, whatever they're called, were like, we don't really know the language for this, how to do this. Why are they put in that position? Like, there's not a lawyer or someone they could hire. There's no town something. There's not a state person that could come in and help them. an outside company to help them write this stuff down. It's so weird that there's not a system for this, but I guess it's not. I guess it's just like a handful of elected people in Warren who just don't really know what they're doing. Very trusting. Or lazy. Moving on. It's tough though when your town gets fired by somebody. It is tough. All right, moving on, Matt. The women of Vermont, looks like you're getting screwed, not just women, men in Vermont, men and women, people in Vermont are getting screwed by the insurance companies. Medical insurance? Life insurance? All insurance? Medical, specifically contraceptives. Oh, no, it doesn't apply to me. I use my personality for that. That's a good plan. Yes, what is this, Matt? So with the Obamacare or Affordable Health Care Act, we're supposed to get free birth control pills, free vasectomies, free ultrasounds. Free vasectomies? That's giving them away? Yeah, it's giving them away. That's why I said men and women. No, but these Blue Cross of Blue Shield of Vermont, MVP Healthcare and Cigna Healthcare weren't giving people, they were charging people. What about condoms? Didn't say condoms. For how long? Is this like how much money did they do? 1.5 million for contraceptive care and consumers in Vermont, 9,000 Vermonters were held, were made to pay for the stuff that they weren't supposed to pay for. God, that's a lot when you think about it. You break it down to age appropriateness for this stuff. That's a significant portion of it. Yeah. Well, it's just insurance companies. So what's the, like, am I going to get, like, if I paid for a vasectomy, am I going to get a check in the mail? Like, yeah, I don't know. Wait a minute. They don't, you don't, what are you saying? They're going to pay you to have that vasectomy? If you've already paid your add- Yeah, they're going to take one look at Adam and say, we're going to pay you to have a- They're going to knock on the door. We're the federal government. We've been watching you. We'd like to obey so that you do not procreate. We'll pay you handsomely. No, what I'm saying, Glo, is if I, hypothetically, had already gotten the snip snip and I paid for it, do I get a refund now? I'm sure they're going to say there's some deadline or whatever there was. It was like yesterday. You just missed it, buddy. But we can reverse it. Well, Vermont's congressional delegation again is up in arms about this. These yahoos. They are calling on top Biden administration officials to detail steps that they are taking to make sure that insurance carriers are providing no-cost contraceptive coverage to consumers. I'm sure Biden administration is like, oh yeah, that's the most important thing happening in the world right now. We'll jump on that. Right after we take care of this Israel thing. Yeah, so if you paid for birth control, vasectomy, what was the other stuff they said in here? Ultrasound? Ultrasound. Wow, yeah. Wow. Then you should get a refund. All right, moving on to Jeffrey Kisses. What is he up to? Giving money to Chittenden, huh? Yep. Bezos is donating 5 million to the Champlain Valley Office of Economic Opportunity. This is where I do a little math. What is Bezos worth? I know. Yeah, I know. You're going to- 200 billion? I just want to- You're going to put it in perspective is what you're going to do. Because really, what's 5 million to Jeff Bezos? Right? Is that what you're saying? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You don't see Elon Musk giving away a lot of money. No. He likes to build rockets. With all the spare money. Right. Yeah, it would be like me giving a dollar and ninety-two cents. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's even better. So, there you go. I mean, thanks, but ten bucks would be nice. You know? You give more. Well, they're going to help 280 people, families, 280 families. What are these guys going to do when they die? What's all their money going to go, do you think? The kids? These guys are giving it away? His wife's giving it away. Giving away all his money. His ex-wife. Well, yeah. His new wife ain't giving nothing away. She's quite comfortable. So what's this money going to, Matt? The CVOEO? Yep. CVOEO? Okay, that's cool. I mean, it helps families get housing. Hey, more billionaires should do that. I'm sure they do. I'm sure, what's his name from Microsoft, gives away Bill Gates. He's giving away billions. And but, hey, 280 families, that's a lot. It's a drop on a bucket to him, but how many other places is he helping to? It's right, I mean, I hate to do the thing like, it's not really that much, but yeah. It's not really that much. It isn't. All right, we'll just be thankful. You don't get to use the word erect very often. So we're gonna use it a lot in this story. They're looking to erect an Ethan Allen statue in Castleton. The board voted for O to allow the statue to be placed on town property. They're not asking for money, no. They're just asking for permission. Just permission to erect the statue. And they think once the erection is complete, it will be about 6 feet tall. That's not much. What do you want? I don't know. I think 6 is enough. I don't know what you expect. Is that the statue or is that the pedestal with the statue? We don't measure from the pedestal, you don't measure from the pedestal, you measure from the base of the statue to the top of the statue. Well, they already have a stone commemorating the meeting with Ethan Allen when they were planning the attack on Fort Ticonderoga, that's where they did it. And some historians think that Benedict Arnold was there. Just scheming? Yeah, he was already scheming. He wasn't always a traitor. No, no, he was a patriot. What made him flip? I think he thought they were going to lose. He didn't read the tea leaves very well, I guess. I really don't know what made him flip. I'm sure there's been books written about it. Was he executed? I believe so. I think he was hung. As a traitor. And then he was erected? And then he was erected. He was hung? He was hung and erected. At the same time. Maybe he was. Actually, he outlived the, uh, no he did not outlive the samurai, never mind. After years of suffering from gout and other health conditions, Benedict Arnold died in London on June 14th, 1801. I guess he didn't get executed. Back to London. Yeah, he was a hero in London, 1801. Okay, so 25 years after the revolution, he's still got gout. It's the rich man's disease, right? Yeah, exactly. So yeah, he, um, yeah, I don't really know that story that well. Oh, this is what he said. Wait, he wanted to wear the uniform of the U.S. Continental Army on his deathbed. He said, let me die in this old uniform in which I fought my battles. May God forgive me forever having put on another. So he was regretful. Well, they won. It's gotta be tough when like your name means something. Like, oh, look at this Benedict Arnold. Like, look at this Judas. Like, that's pretty much, there's not many of them. But everybody knows, well, I don't know about kids today, but we all I don't know what that meant. Yeah, he's the Michael Jordan of traitors. But yeah, so Ethan Allen statue, they're having to decide whether they're gonna make it out of bronze, marble, or some other material. I thought it was already made. What? No. Oh, well, you kept saying it was gonna be erected. Well, you gotta make it, and then you erect it. I thought it was like something that had been done years and years ago, and it was, you know, stored away in some warehouse like a lot of our stuff is, downtown. Burlington has that. You think it's just some warehouse full of statues? Yeah, and they're like, hey, who's this guy? I think we'll put him up on a pedestal. Well, some of those might be, may have been taken down. Oh, yeah. Well, but maybe because of history changing, maybe that was taken down for some reason, political reason or whatever reason. Maybe. Right? And now, we're back to being popular again. Who? I don't know, I can't remember. The veteran generals? I mean, maybe the way things are going, they might be really popular soon. Alright, so yeah, good luck, Castleton, get your statue erected. Matt, I did not read this, so I'm going to put it on you. This is one of the most interesting stories of the week. There was an artist who was good friends of Norman Rockwell, And he was also an artist. And they both worked for Saturday Evening Post. So he bought some of his artwork. The other guy bought some of Norman Rockwell's artwork, paid $900 for this famous painting. And then he went through a divorce. So he made some deal with his wife, because they had eight valuable paintings, that they would be put, they would be shared, but they would be put in like museums and stuff. So it turns out years later, after the guy dies, somebody notices the painting that's near the hometown here. He says it's fake. What do you mean? He says he can tell that it's not a real Norman Rockwell. And it turns out, this guy repainted that painting and the kids found these eight paintings stored in the secret compartment in the guy's house after he died. And that painting that he paid $900 for back then, which was a lot of money, now worth $15 million. So he didn't want to give it up in the divorce. He didn't want it to be split up. So he repainted all of them, and then stored these paintings somewhere in some secret compartment in his art gallery, where he worked. And his kids found them. So now they can sell them? Yes. The wife is dead too, or we don't know? No, she said, it sounds like him. He died at 89. I wonder how long it took him to paint all of them. I mean, like, because I'm looking at this picture, they have them side by side, and I mean, if you know what the original looks like, you can kind of tell, but not bad. Yeah. No, he was a good artist, you know. You don't work for the Saturday Evening Post doing stuff. You weren't. But this is how it went down. He died in 2005, leaving his children in the painting and lingering questions about his thoughts' authenticity. Then his son was searching for answers on St. Patrick's Day when he called his brother, Don Jr. I think I found something. And it was, they were in his old studio. The brothers noticed a gap behind a bookcase along the wall. The wood paneling they discovered was actually a sliding door. Opening it, they found a crawl space with all eight paintings from the divorce settlement, including the Rockwell. God, what a fun adventure that day must have been for them. It must have been so cool. Yeah, you know, and I'm looking at these and man, that guy was fabulous. I mean, it is amazing how he copied it so well. I mean, some of the lighting is off. You can see that, but it could be also the way it was treated, too. Right, right, right. So that may have had an impact, but he really was, he got the expressions. That's always the hardest thing to do. So what tipped them off? Some art critic noticed it and started raising questions about it. They were in this art gallery and he said something's off about this painting. But how would he know? Did he know the original one? There's art experts who can look at a painting and go, well that's not a Rockwell. I can tell by the brush strokes or the color. Really? Yeah, I mean, they're so good at it. Yeah. Yeah. So, in other words, Norman Rockwell had a certain type of stroke, and this didn't match. Could that be something like that? And the colors were a little off. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's just a really interesting story. It is. It's very interesting. It was not just an art critic. It was the artist of official White House portraits. President George W. and Lady Laura Bush. He's a bit of an artist himself. Wow, interesting. This was back in 2003, I think, that all this actually came to a head in 2006. So it's an old story, but they've just decided to put it on the market, on an auction, and sold for $15.4 million. dollars. Isn't art such a hoax? Well, just like we were talking about billionaires. Just a little while ago, it feels the same with that, too. Now we're talking about 400 billion as being almost like pocket change, you know, pretty soon we're gonna be. I mean, it's amazing. We went from being a millionaire was like, whoa, right? And only what, 20 years? Nothing. Means nothing. You're right. How many millionaires do you think there are in the US? How many people are in the US? 340,000. No, how many people are in the United States population? 340 million. Sorry, I had a glitch there. Wow. Gloria's dream came true. 99% of the people died. Did you mean to get your hopes up, Glo? Anyway, I don't know. I would say 20,000. Go for it. 22 million. There's 22 million millionaires. Sorry, 21,951,000 millionaires. How many did you think? I said 20,000. 20,000? He's off by three zeros. Oh my gosh, Matt. Are you serious? People these days... Who knows? Don't yell at Matt. I'm just guessing. I don't yell at you when you guess. You ready for a break? The music is from Riley Lucifer. The song is Blow By Blow. And all those early sessions when we used to meet And we were rolling bones, talking rock and roll Crank it blow by blow And now we're going Woah, woah In late September, we started this band We were smoking bones, fucking getting soaked We started this song, it went Woah, woah So we're back Alright, it's time for our America's favorite segment where we run down the worst people in Vermont, the ne'er-do-wells, the flim-flam artists, scallywags. Matt, it's time for the scum bag map. We start off light, a couple of scum bags in Fairhaven, admitted to stealing two shopping carts from Walgreens. You mean empty carts? Yeah. Everybody steals those carts. Well, these are the only two morons who got caught. Because they cracked under pressure. I mean, we see them abandoned everywhere. Yeah, two shopping carts valued at $600. I don't know if that's each or total. I was about to ask you that, too. Yeah, I don't know. Probably total. You think one cart is $300? That's probably on the high side. Yeah. You think so? I don't know. Even with inflation? Especially now. Yeah, it could be. A car could be pretty expensive, I bet. But the story, there's no meat to it. I want to know why these guys were stealing and how they got caught. I'm Gloria now. I want to know. I'm guessing they had them in the back of the pickup, they got pulled over and the cop's like, These your card boys? And they're like, Yes? And he's like, They say Walgreens. Oh, we did it sir. We're sorry. We threw ourselves at the mercy of the law. Oh, you're kidding. So they're actually putting them in the back of a pickup truck? Well, I don't know. I thought they were walking away with like 63 words here. I don't know I've complained about there's no we don't know what happened why they were doing it How they got caught both men were arrested issued a citation to appear in Rutland district court I'm about to follow up. Maybe this thing goes all the way to the top might have been one of those things They're out drinking or something Sober person ever stolen a shopping cart. I'd wager no probably a homeless well all right you got me on that one man um all right so please know we're moving over to Orwell police tips led to find this shooting suspect he looks bright he doesn't he look like he wasn't ready for that flash please have captured a man accused of attempted murder for alleging firing a gun inside a home. Friday at 11.55pm Fisher Road in Orwell, Trent Bayen fired a semi-automatic handgun at Paxton Tao after a dispute involving several people. No one was injured. How? How do you fire a semi-automatic handgun at someone in a room full of people and no one gets injured? Worst shot ever. Yeah. He surrendered to the police without incident. What is it with all the guns now? The beefs are no longer settled with fists. This is all guns now. Yeah. Or knives if you're in school. Yeah. You don't want to bring your gun to school. Bring your knife. Yeah, they got this guy. He was on the run for a while. Wow. And yeah, his photo, he does not look of sound mind. Yeah, he looks a little high. Which brings me to my question, what do you know about Orwell, Vermont? There's a fort there. A fork? Fort. Oh, a fort. Mount Independence, I think, is there. We've been there. We have? Is it on the way to Bennington? It's the only way to cross the bridge to go over to New York. There's a bridge there. Oh, okay. I still don't know it, but let's get on. It's near Sudbury. Mount Independence. Oh, okay. We're getting close now. I know I kind of have an idea. Or it's close to your friend's brother's farm, the one that's not in Sudbury. But the, yeah, I don't even know what that town is. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, Orwell. I don't know anything about this place. All I know is it's near Virginia. It's in Addison County. Yep. So anyway, what happened? Well, that's where this guy, this shooting went down. And I just had never heard of Orwell from before. Oh, wow. Um, no, um, let's see. Tully Blanchard, a Canadian professional wrestler. Oh! He was a member of the Four Horsemen and the Brain Busters. What? What's that? He was a professional wrestler, he was a tag team. I guess Four Horsemen was maybe more than two guys. Yeah, he was on the WWF, okay. I kind of remember this guy. He was a Brain Buster Glo, he was one of the Four Horsemen. I must be on the wrong story. I don't know what you're talking about. No, you gotta click on his name. Tully Blanchard? Let me try this one more time. It's Notable People. That's the one. Yeah, I kind of remember this dude. Okay, yeah. That's all I got. He's the most famous person. Yeah, not much going on at Orwell. That mountain, that fort, and this guy. There's always a bunch of senators and stuff, but they don't mean anything to me. I mean, Lewis Winslow Austin is maybe a super famous physicist to people who know about physicists, but he's known for his research on long-range radio transmissions, so he probably did some good. Never heard of him. Yeah. Yeah, he's no brain buster. You know, totally blanchard. All right, moving on. Where is this, Matt? Bradford? Bradford. Police say someone in a pickup truck caused thousands of dollars in damage in school property in Bradford. They just drove into the school. Did donuts and stuff around the lawn and over the soccer field. Yeah. Why did you do this? It's all caught on camera. I mean, they probably had this person like this is from what four days ago. I'm sure they had the license plate. This person who did it Bradford. They're like, Oh, it's fucking Josh and them again. I mean, this is sober. This is a sober crime. Can't be no. But the driver sped through the front entrance of the school. Sounds like he was doing this on purpose. Yeah. What gave that thought? He's doing donuts in the soccer field. Yeah. It wasn't like I'm drunk and I hit the school. It was like I'm going to damage the school. Oh, I see. Yeah, they're having a time. So what came first, the donuts? What? I have no idea what's happening. What came first, the donuts or hitting the front door? I would think the donuts probably came first. Does it say? Stopped reading. No one knows. Moving on to Burlington. They took him into custody because he was trespassing near the city's water resource division. You're kidding. You mean like the one there on Main Street right there at the intersection where they view V.M. students cross? Penny Lane? Penny Lane. Down by the Coast Guard Station. Oh, okay, never mind. But there's like a weird trend glow of like people trying to destroy like infrastructure in towns, like people shooting at like electrical towers and stuff. Why? Because they want us... Motoriodary? No, they want the power to go out, they want the water supply to be shut down, they want chaos, they want like civil unrest. Because they think once that happens, the white race will emerge victorious or something. Oh, there is that mindset. Yeah, I'm not saying that's what this guy was doing, but that's why they take guys like this seriously. When they arrested him, he had 10 cans of spray paint. Oh, you know what he was getting ready to do. He was just going to tag it up. Yeah, he was just going to tag it up. Yeah, that's fine. First tagger ever to get arrested in this town. He's got like this giant backpack that's like clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk. It's like, you don't need ten, man. He's got all these different colors. He's like, no, I need three shades of blue. All right, moving on. I guess a couple of kids are breaking into cars in Virginia. I don't think they're kids. Oh, they're fully adult. They have pictures of them. I'm sure they've caught these people too, or they know who they are. Yeah. I'd say if you steal a car, go right to jail. Put them in jail. Put them in jail for years. Still don't have my car back. Put them in jail. Put them in jail. They got pretty good shots of these people. Yeah. Great. So, I'm guessing the one on the left is the brains? You think? I don't know. Well, I'm sorry. When I say left, I mean, right. I meant their left. How about the person in the orange? I don't think that's the brains. I think the person in the black. Okay, that's why I was like, really? Because the one on the left... I would put myself in their perspective, like if I was walking out of the store with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The woman, because she looks like a woman. Is that a woman? I think so. I think it is. I think it is. Yeah, of course she's the brains. That's not a very womanly looking woman. I don't know the first impression I saw I got was she's a woman That's what I thought maybe I'm wrong and I think also we may have seen this picture before These no. Oh, yeah these mug shots Possibly. I mean, I don't know You kind of look familiar mates because we're seeing so much of this all the time and we keep putting it on the podcast They're all starting to look the same. Yeah There's cameras everywhere. Yeah Yes, yes, yes, yes. All right, this is kind of a funny story. Police officer got knocked out in Rutland. I think I need to do this in an incognito window. Get past your paywall. Jason AC38 of Sandy Creek pleaded not guilty Wednesday to two felony charges of aggregated first degree domestic assault and misdemeanor charge of simple assault on a protected professional causing bodily injury an attempted assault with bodily fluids on a police officer. Whew, bodily fluids. Spit. I was going to say, let's hope it's spit. If it's not spit, probably elevated. Erecta, you mean? The man, so apparently this guy was just sitting at a bar drinking. And then he just jumped up and started beating the hell out of the person next to him. Police arrived, found a man bleeding profusely from the face. I thought it was in a house. I might be mixing up my stories here. Yeah, I think it's in a house. Okay. Yeah, okay, at a house. So relatives house. Right, right, right. Because they found this guy, he was on a couch under a blanket when they found him. So he did the old toddler thing, like I can't see you so you can't see me move. Like, no one's here. And he responded combatively when the officers tried to talk to him, ultimately standing up and punching an officer in the jaw. The blow knocked the officer down and caused him to lose consciousness. According to the affidavit, when he came to, he was dazed and unsteady on his feet. So they gave him the standing count. He couldn't do it. He's out. Called the fight. Called the fight. They tried to use a taser on the man twice before he was subdued. I think those tasers are like hit or miss. They're like not... They don't always work well. I think cops need more taser training. Because there's, is it like the one where you touch it to someone's skin, but then there's one that shoots out. Shoots out. Which one is the taser? That's the taser, the shoot. Shoots out? But I think, aren't they both considered? They're both tasers? I think they don't, I'm not sure if they use those, the ones that shoot anymore, I don't know, maybe they do. Because cops usually get their guns mixed up with them. Oh yeah, they do. I thought I was shooting my chaser, and I was shooting my gun. Right. I don't know. Cops always get mixed up. Yeah. Those crazy cops. Yeah, so this guy got one clean hit in, so I think it's good for him. He's got quite a record. He's telling that story in prison. Speaking of cops, I did not read this, Matt. Oh, somebody that worked over at the St. J jail got caught with child porno, even on his work account. Oh man, you can't log in with your .gov email address and go to the dark web. Yeah, and then they gave him, both sides agreed to recommend a jail sentence of 18 months to 5 years, all suspended except for 60 days, with 10 years of probation. What? What's that mean? It means he doesn't have to do it. Oh, what's the 60 days? That's how much he has to serve. In jail? Instead of 18 months to 5 years. Okay. It doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't. Why don't you just come out and say it? Six months, you know? Well, it's conditional. He has 10 years of probation. If he does anything again, then he'll go in. Okay. And if you're a true crimer, you'll do something before 10 years is up, if you get caught. Well, it depends on how closely they're watching this guy. If he's a former cop, maybe they're like, eh, maybe we don't need to, you know, don't need to check in on him so much. He wasn't a cop, he just worked in the Northeast Correctional Complex. Yeah, I bet. He's a shift supervisor. I don't know, maybe he was a cop. Alright, moving on. GLOW, there's an organization in Burlington that will take care of, that will get veterinary services to homeless people's dogs. Awww. Street Dog Coalition. Wow. And cats. But if you try to bring a fucking bunny rabbit or an iguana, good luck. Aww. I don't think, I think it's for poor people. Yeah, for people who are experiencing homelessness or at risk of experiencing homelessness. Because they're seeing like a hundred dogs a day, in this one day. In 45 minutes into the clinic, they had already seen 40 dogs. And then they expected to see 60 more. I just imagine these people just like stepping over some, you know, some crumpled over old man, just coughing up blood on the street and just grabbing his dog. Like, we'll take care of you, Fido. We got you. I don't know. I think they bring them to this place, don't they? Yeah, I don't think they're out looking for a homeless. Maybe they should, Matt. I don't know. That's nice of them. Yeah, I think that's great. Because, I mean, for somebody who's homeless, their dog or cat's pretty much all they got, you know. If you're homeless and you have a cat, don't you not have a cat? Like, I mean... I don't know. I've seen, I remember that guy who used to bring his bicycle down Church Street and his cat would be sitting in the basket. And he had no place to, no domicile? I don't know. No, he did. He did? But I mean, his cat used to ride on the front handlebars. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's a pretty exceptional cat. Yeah, it was. He's very calm. But I've seen that before, too. There's been other people with the same thing, having their cats walk up on, and you know how dog, dog friendly that Church Street is, so lots of dogs. Well, shout out to Street Dog Coalition. They're doing some good work. Moving on. Rutland County is home of one of the nation's fastest dogs. Ozzy, third fastest swimming dog in the nation. Wow. Did you say wow or how? No, wow. Oh, wow. What kind of dog is this? This is a shepherd. Belgian, no, it's a Belgian Malinois, or M-A-L-I-N-O-I-S, never heard of it. This dog competed in the Ultimate Air Games Dog Dock Diving Competition. You know, the thing we were all totally aware of way before a second ago. In Lebanon, Tennessee, September 28th to October 1st, 250 dogs from all over the U.S. attended the annual competition. Wow. That's amazing. I don't know, I guess this woman's looking at her dog, she's like, I think you got what it takes, Hazi. I'm going to enter you in the swimming contest. And here's what I don't understand about these, like, you know, like the dog competitions and stuff. How do you know if your dog is trying its hardest? How do you get a dog to take it seriously? You know, like, all right, this one, do go as fast as you can this time. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. There's always some reward involved, I think. I mean, this dog looks like he gets his ball if he does good. You know, that's what they do with the dogs at the airport and stuff. They always have their toy. But if the dog knows he's going to get the toy anyway, what's, you know, I don't know. I just think maybe the fastest dog is the one who's treated the worst. Trying to get away. This dog is from Sudbury. Cool. I wonder our friend would know. Hazi excels at endurance, snowshoeing and hiking. Sounds like a very active dog. When he isn't jumping or swimming, Hazi enjoys cold weather sports. You haven't seen this dog on skis. It's a snowboard. Yeah, so that's Hazi. Alright, Gloria, don't punch onto this next story. Okay. But, I want you to guess, what town is the biggest tree known to exist in Vermont? Where does it exist? North, south, east, west? I mean, we've got a lot of trees. West? West, OK. Why should I know? You shouldn't know. To me, it surprises me. That's why. It's something you probably wouldn't. You would think it would be somewhere. Like, OK, like Charlotte. Yeah. Charlotte? No. You don't normally associate this place with trees. At least I don't. But maybe you do. So maybe that was a bad clue. But it's 127 feet high, 302 inches circumference of the crown. And the crown's spread of 74 feet. It's big. Where is this? So should I go further south? On what property? It's on private property. No, it's north. Oh, OK. Ferrisburg. North. You didn't go very far north. She went south. Yeah, they do go south. Yeah, Charlotte to Beresford, that's south. No, it's in Colchester. Really? Yeah, and now you can click on it because you can see the picture, you're going to love it. Okay. Does this tree have a name? It should. We had a, there's a big tree in Florida that got burned down by a crackhead. I think it was called the Senator. It was like the biggest, oldest tree. Some old crackhead just burned it down. This doesn't look that big. I mean, it's big, but it's like... You know where's a tree that I thought this was going to be? It just dawned on me? The park? Yes, yes, the one... Feral Park? No, no, no. Keep going all the way down to the end of Swift Street. You come to that T, but it's not a T. You keep going straight. Across it. Yeah, the one we saw. Yeah, then there's a boardwalk to get you through the woods, and it brings you to this enormous tree. And I, for some reason, starting to think that's the one, but it's not. No, this is a lot bigger than that. That's even bigger? Yeah. See, I feel like if I was walking by this tree, I wouldn't say to myself, that must be the biggest tree in Vermont. You wouldn't? I don't know. I haven't seen that many. I guess I don't... You don't? I thought there would be like a big... You wouldn't even notice it. I'd walk right into it and go, what is this? He'd walk right through a tunnel in a tree and not notice. Literally just walk through. That's a small house. Biggest tree in Vermont. Fastest dog in Brooklyn. Third fastest dog in the world. That's a brother. Got it all figured out. You already got it? Yep. Peace! Bye. Bye bye. It's totally destroyed and in itself will be blown This, of course, is a situation It's necessarily becomes a reality, however Only the president will have the access to this button This button is the most dangerous button in the world You mean this button? Oh, I'm sorry