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On this week’s show:
(1:05:23) Break music: MavStar feat. Subtex - “Elixir of Life”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjZ7IgM8Ee8&ab_channel=Mavstar-Topic
(1:57:19) Break music: Lance Mills - “Lordy Lordy”
https://lancemills.bandcamp.com/album/green-mountain-saturday-night
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Welcome to Vermont Ketchup with Matt. I'm Matt. Glow. I'm Glow. And I'm Adam. We are a weekly rundown of everything going down in the Green Mountain State. Happy National Whipped Cream Day. Yay. So here's a question. What the hell is whipped cream? I don't even know what it is. No. I mean, I know what it is, but like, I don't know, like, How do you make it? I know, like, okay, there's two kinds, right? There's cool whip. Oh, that's not... I wouldn't even... You would have just offended my mother. I grew up with Cool Whip. Which I guess is the basic bitch whip cream, right? Well, we didn't have whip cream either. I mean, that's kind of highfalutin. Highfalutin? Ready Whip, or that stuff in a can. Oh yeah, that stuff. Again. What's the other... Well, if you actually have real cream and you just keep really whipping it a lot, it solidifies and now you have whipped cream. We used to make it. Out on the Oregon Trail? Who does that? We used to make it at the coffee shop that I worked at in San Francisco, but you just put it in a canister and then you put air in it and shake it up, and all of a sudden it's whipped cream. Look at that. Wow. Right. Advancements. It wasn't a ready whip, it was a lot better. Oh, we put a little shot of espresso in it, too. That was nice. Well, Matt's never made that for you, has he? No, he hasn't. I have to go out and buy one. Why? We can make it. It's just cream. Espresso. I don't know, whip cream was always like, when I was growing up, like in the 90s, whip cream was like sexual. Am I wrong about that? Well, no, I was thinking about that all along. Yeah. Isn't it like, I've never had, well, that's not true, I've almost never had, I've never had a... Never mind, you don't have to tell us. It's your thought. You're starting to act like Glo. I was going to say, I've never had a major sexual experience with whipped cream. Oh, major, but you've had a minor. Minor. You know, lesser. Not minor, don't use the word minor. Lesser. Although I wasn't minor. No, I've never done it, but hey, I thought of it, and I kind of like... So you're just like, staring at the ceiling like, he would make this more enjoyable. I'll have to remember that. Matt, thoughts? Never, no, food. I've never had a food experience. Yeah, remember when they used to make maybe they probably still do underwear made out of like Oh edible panties. Oh, yeah Yeah, edible panties. It was always panties, right? It was never like men's boxer shorts. Was it? Well, first of all if you ate all that It just boggles my mind that somebody would eat something like that. Unless it was licorice, I like licorice. When I think of edible pens, I've never even seen them. But I always imagine it's like those fruit roll-up things. That is what I imagine. I have no idea. Yeah. I think I tried it once. And? Didn'taste very good. Were they straight out of the package? I had to test them first, right? Let's take these babies for a bike ride. Wow, five minutes into the show and we're talking about edible panties. Look, I like it when we start weird. Alright, moving on. Vermont stuff. So, this is a weird story. So, Glow, Burlington celebrated the New Year's last, whatever it was, last Sunday night. First of all, I did not hear any fireworks. We heard the early ones because were asleep by 8.30, so we didn't hear the other ones. I didn't hear anything. I was out. But apparently Burlington celebrated it by burning Champ, the lake monster, in effigy. Why, is he dead? I mean... That's a great question. I thought when you burn something in effigy, it was like to... He's like a treasonous politician or something, somebody you don't like. Yeah, like, I thought effigy was like a negative thing, but they seem to treat it as like a... And why would you want to do that to Champ? All those kids looking at this, their mascot, the ones they go to watch baseball for no other reason than that, maybe, like me, and yeah, why would you do that to Champ? These are great points. What about the kids? The kids? I don't know. Yeah. Do you think kids are like, yeah, there's Champ. I hope they set him on fire. Yeah, some group called Cirque de Fuego entertained the crowd with flames before lighting a large wooden effigy of Champ on fire that is crazy I read that one what this is it my hope this was just at midnight so less kids were there well I hope so too it's just stupid somebody say you know that guy's kind of a hero around here what you guys are thinking I mean imagine any other like imagine like setting Mickey Yeah, I could see that. You wouldn't do it at Disney. No. Or like any other, like, imagine like any team, any like sports team's mascot. Right. You know, like, and sending them on fire, like, no one is down with that, but like, why would they burn Champ? I just... And nobody in the story asks that, right? Right, right, no. We don't know why. If I was a reporter and I was down there, I'd go, why did you do that? Of all the things to do. Yeah, and why fire? Why do we have to have that? We already have fireworks. We have to have a fire too? Well, this is Cirque de Fuego, so they're all about the fire. That's what they're hired to do. Yeah, so burning effigies is part of many rituals to make mark the change of the season. Well, as the lake monster burned, colored smoke and sparklers hidden inside the sculpture went off, giving a little extra brightness and flair to this highlight tradition as onlookers waited for the start of 2024. Also, we have burning an effigy as a way of protesting against that person's policies. I don't know what Cham's policies were, but it must have been pretty bad. He's like, well, I like lumbering around baseball games. I like hot dogs. I like my little motorcycle thing. I like my scooter. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what his policies are, but I don't know why we had to get rid of him. But it just seemed really harsh as a way to... We should be burning Champ's enemies. What's the Plattsburgh mascot? Burn that one. We don't want to start a war here between my elites. Because they can claim Champ, too. Whoa. That's right. No, they can't. Yes, they can. He's in the lake. ニューヨークとヴォーマンドにある ブラックホールの海岸を見ることができる 正直言うと チャンプがプラッツバーグの海岸を 見ることができないとは思わない プラッツバーグの海岸は 見ることができない 俺たちもそう思う ブラックホールの海岸は ブレズ・バタードの海岸を見ることができる ブラックホールの海岸は ビーチの海岸を見ることができる プラッツバーグの海岸は クリフトの海岸を見ることができる I don'think they have the kind of beaches we do. Let's not start promoting Burlington for its beaches. Right. OK. You're talking to two guys that grew up in Florida. Those are in New Jersey. And New Jersey. Yeah, there's a lot of beaches. No. I would never lay out one of those beaches down there. No way. No. It always makes me laugh. Like, I'm going to the beach. I'm like, all right. It's more like just ground gravel. Yeah. It's like, this spot is less rocky. You probably come out with all these like little pin marks on you from laying on rocks. That's what it is. It's, it's rocks. It's rocks. So anyway, so they killed Champ. Happy New Year. Champ's dead. What a way to start the new year. That was so bizarre. That made me laugh when I read that. I was like, what, like, effigy burning. What are we doing? Glow, you won't like this. I almost did not put this on here. Vermont. Darn, I had to read the title. Yeah, Vermont Tops, one of the moving destinations charted by United Van Lines, which I guess is one of the bigger moving van companies. Yeah. We're number one. Oregon's number two, I think. Yeah. Now, Rhode Island. Okay, this doesn't make any sense, right? Because you hear all these stats where it's like, well, actually the population just increased like 3,000. It's like, okay, really? That's it? Like the whole state, 3,000? But then you look around and you're like, feels like more. So I don't know which one's right. Feels like more just in South Burlington. Right, yeah. You know? It's crazy. It feels like more to me like I was driving around today at 430 in the morning. And there's traffic. I mean, it's not a lot, but like there's people on the street where like, two years ago, well, maybe three years ago, there was no one, you know? That's crazy. So yeah, Vermont, Oregon. Was that New Mexico? Yep. What's that blue one under that yellow one, Matt? New Mexico, Oregon, the blue one over here? Yeah, in the middle. That is South Dakota, isn't it? I don'think so. Yes, it is. Number eight. All right. South Dakota. My bad. And then some places in the south. I'm surprised that Florida is not dark blue. When I was in Florida, that was the number one complaint. Everyone's like, there's too many people here now. There's way too many people. I thought that like 20 years ago. We think that everywhere you go. It's true. I thought that in the 70s. There's way too many people here. I thought that in the 70s. We got hit hard in the early 70s. All of a sudden, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, all these cars. Now people are living there. It was crazy. Because all the car manufacturers were closing down. so they were all retiring and stuff. So anyways, I remember in Florida, they'd be like, where are you from? They'd be like, no, where are you from? I'm like, same place, man, I'm from here. But how many generations back do you know? What do you mean? My family? Yeah. Just well, I don't know how I would count it. Like my parents are from they were not born in Florida. But they moved there at very young ages, like me. From another state, another United States. Not another planet, another state. You got it. Yeah, mom from New York, father from Maryland. So they're Yankees. And how far back from there? I don't know. We're white. We don'track that shit. You know, that's true. Could have been anywhere. Like with me, it's gonna die with me, being the Portuguese side. It's already died with my nieces and nephews. Well, no, how has it died with them? They're still alive. No, no, I mean, the traditions, the culture, knowing anything about where your parents came from. I mean, I even know where my grandparents are buried. I go to the cemetery when I'm there. But I mean the traditions like there could be someone like one of your nephews or nieces could be like I really want to get into Portuguese culture, right? Never gonna happen. No. No connection? No. Well, because first of all, it's mostly because they're Italian now. They're like three quarters. So, my niece and nephew, no. Half and half. But their kids, they're all Italian. And so what do you think the chances are? I don'think so. The only thing is, somebody, well, the name Sousa sounds Italian, so they'll never know, really, what it is. So when you ask them, you say, so what are you like? Do they say Italian? Do they say half Portuguese, half Italian? Oh, I don't ask them that. In my family, that's best. That's like with politics and religion and all that. I didn't know. I'm not trying to start some sort of internal war. I'm just curious how they identify, I'm just curious what they think. Or do they just think, like, I'm American? I don't know what they would even say about themselves. I know. I would love to ask them just for that reason. Do they see themselves as American, or do they see themselves as half Portuguese, half Italian? And how old are they? Oh, into their 40s. Oh. I thought you were talking about the kids. Oh, the kids are... Oh, my niece and nephew. Oh, no. The kids. Oh, no, they're like, you know, ranging from three to seven or eight. Each one has to. So you kidding? No, they're gonna think of themselves as Americans. Just that. Oh, yeah. I mean, because you're never going to hear a foreign word. You know, they're only going to hear English spoken in a home. They're not going to have a grandparent that came from the old country that may take care of them at least for the first couple years of their life like my nephew so Yeah, and then you lose it and it's well, okay, I guess it's For me it feels sad, you know, it's a big melting pot of the world. Yeah People lose touch of that stuff. Yeah Yeah, I don't know like melting is like the best. Yeah way, you know, we should be more like a gumbo I mean, eventually we'll probably be all one color, hopefully a nice soft brown. That would be good, I like that. I'd love to have a tan for once. Let's all look like Selma Hayek. And I've even said that. What did you say? Nothing, go ahead. Oh, come on. I said let's all look like Selma Hayek. Who's that? She's an actress. Is she good looking? Yeah. Is she like a cocoa brown color or like a hot fudge? She's not a hot fudge, she's more like a salty caramel, I don't know. I'm having trouble drawing up her skin tone in my crayon box here. But she's very pretty, even though she's even on the later end of her career. Still hot. She's been pretty for a long time, I'll put it that way. Yeah, Google Salma Hayek from dusk till dawn. Oh, and? See a picture of her. Oh, okay. And more. Oh, are we saying like, was she a playboy bunny or something? No, no. Not that kind of more. Let's not besmirch the good name of Salma Hayek. Hey, being a playboy bunny shouldn't be... No, that's true. That's true. I'm not besmirching the Playboy bunnies. They did a lot of good work. They do, huh? A lot of good men. What do they do? Charity work? No, just things. Helped a lot of people through some tough times. Let's move on. What's next, Matt? Flood relief. Not that again. I mean. I know, this is so great. I may do something else if you guys are going to talk about this. We're not going to talk about it very long because I have nothing to say about this. I don't really either. It's just that we'll do the headline, Central Vermont Legislatures to introduce Omnibus Flood Relief Bill. But nothing's ever going to happen. Yeah. You know, they want $85 million in tax relief. I would just say like, this is the only thing I'll say about this. Please, could you please write down where the money goes? That's all, just so we know. Yeah. Because this seems like it's rife for corruption and scamming. Yes. And the wrong people getting the money, much like the COVID shit. Yeah. I already cursed. I think I probably cursed before, but try not to curse. I've been doing so much better, have you noticed? I have. Yeah, I mean, I haven't even put any effort into it. It just started happening naturally. If you ever want to let it rip, just let me know. No, I don't have the temptation. Maybe later. All right, so flood relief bill. Cool. Sorry to poo-poo that story, but I just didn't like it either. I don't know anything about the next one either. COVID hospitalizations hit the highest point in a year. Here's my question. What the hell is COVID? What does it even mean anymore? マットは旅行に行く前に コロナについて気づいたのか? そうだね アメリカで4日後にフロリダに行って アメリカに住む場所を借りて インキュベーションに行った後に マスクを着て車に乗った時に pick us up and they drop us off so they're gonna let use one of their cars so and then we'll probably just go out the first day buy whatever we need and then hunker down mm-hmm you think you could do that Matt probably not but okay and we might get you out and drive around but you know yeah so but yeah so that's the arrangements we made because of course you're staying with is worried about COVID, right? Because they're leaving on a trip. But I guess I don't even feel like, are you all? I don'think about COVID at all anymore. Oh, yeah. I mean, I had it in September. It was not that bad. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, a day or two of like, I don't feel so well. But a friend of mine in Jersey, just got COVID. And she's a hermit. She doesn't even hardly ever go out. I'm saying like it's almost seems like you never know you don't know how you're gonna get it Right like I mean as always but like is your friend doing okay? Whatever strain this is not Colbert I mean Colbert the original Colbert like which were people were you know million people died, right? You know people aren't dying. I think there's a lot of cases I don'think people are dying that much. Some people, they're going to die anyway, right? I mean, I don't want to be crass about it, but like I'm not saying like, if you're 93 and you get COVID and you die, like, okay, like, you probably would have died from the next thing, whatever it was Then in the herd? From the flu or Yeah, but like, we just need to keep an eye on COVID because COVID is like, the flu, all right, Matt, I don't want to talk to Matt, the dude, I want to talk to Matt, the epidemic expert Can I talk to that? It's like the flu, we got it kind of under control, right? But like COVID, we don't know how it's going to change. Is that the case? It could change a lot. It seems like there's a different flu shot every year because they know the strain. They just keep changing it. So the same thing has got to be for COVID. COVID seems to have kind of... You okay? Gloria has COVID? Just talking about it. But I'm just saying, it seems to have lost some of its energy, as they say. Yeah. People getting really sick and in the hospital. But yeah, I get your point. It kills the people it'supposed to kill. I don'think I said that. Well, I mean, they're not- You've called the COVID some divine retribution. It's not going to kill somebody probably playing in the NFL. 誰かの運動員かもしれないけど 普通の人にとっては 病気になるかもしれない 私たちが試合をしたのは8月だったのに 本当に病気だった 私は... 何日間? 本当に何もできなかったのが 1週間だった 7日くらいだった 私はパクスラボイドを飲んだ 薬のようなものだった でも5日で最初の症状を治すために 薬を飲んだ Mine was a fifth, so... I didn'take anything. Yeah. But I wasn't as sick as you. But were triple booked at the time. Yeah. I'm running around like crazy. She can't get out of bed. She's really sick. I'm not even going to talk about the dog, but... The dog is sick? No. Bad dog. Bad dog, alright. Alright, I've had enough of COVID. Yeah, but I did have where I was, oh, come on. I was hawking Louie's. Lougie's. What do you call them, Louie's? Well, I couldn't remember. Hey, Louie! Hawking Louie's, like, for about two months. Very satisfying, isn't it? Oh, when you get that really big one. Yeah, yeah, I love the hawking of Louie's. There is a sense of accomplishment. There is! You bring it up from the depths of your soul, and you're like. And the first couple were red on the end, so blood. Oh, wow. So did you actually spit any onto the ground? I did it in the garden. Like, I'd hold my nose and just... That's a snot rocket. Oh, the loogies. That's right. You cough it out of your mouth. Yeah, loogies in the throat. You were snot rocketing. Oh, yeah. That's what you call it? Well, I mean, I did not invent that term. That's what it's called. But that's what I was doing. You're snot rocking it? Yeah. Wow. I've never done that. Because I think it's gross. Oh, I would have it all over my mustache if I did it. It would just be all over my beard and mustache if I even tried to do it. Yeah, it's hard to like do a snot rock. It's a, it's a, yeah, takes precision. I got plenty of practice. I got very good at it. Just to put a bow on this. I don't even think we said this, but Vermont has the highest has a highest number of hospital admissions of COVID since this time last year so it is affecting people yeah i just don'think it's killing people as much i don'think so either um but you know even i don't know i don't want it again no i also don't want it again but also i kind of feel like i feel like i went like three and a half years not getting it and and then I got it. So I'm thinking I'll get it from the three and a half years. I don't know, it makes no sense. That's not like, that doesn't logically make any sense, but that's how I feel. Hopefully we won't get it again. All right, the old nut-kicking sheriff. Oh no. Yeah, he'still bouncing around. John Grismore, he cannot have his trial moved to his home county. The judge rules. Yeah, they moved his trial out of the county for a reason. What was the reason? something about the deputies like I don't like this dude but I feel like is like this violates the court was concerned about fairness since Franklin County Sheriff's deputies would be handling hit security for the trial if we're in st. Albans I don't get the hill security but some of our hand they're not the jury I don't know this make any sense to me I feel like I wonder what What do they feel about him? Deputies? That's a good question. Probably a mix. I know the other sheriffs around the state don't like him. Yeah, it might be one of those like rally around your guy who's being persecuted kind of things. Well, you know, he also could be your neighbor. You know what I mean? Maybe then there's that fear element of you don't want to rub him the wrong way. That's true. So you think he might not get a fair trial? Or he should be tried in Franklin County? Well, yeah. But I'm just saying, so these guys might feel like, or these sheriffs, or something that could be a woman, they might feel like he's like a... I mean, he could be a shitty sheriff, but a good boss. Maybe they like him in that way, you know? Maybe he's a good guy. I don't know. Like you're saying, let me use the name, maybe they've been to barbecues with this dude. They've been to ribs with this dude. But yeah, I don't know. Why are they moving him? It seems like you're violating his rights. Yeah, usually. I don't like this dude, but I think you're violating his rights by moving the trial. Well, if you look at the video, how else do you know? You can see what he does. It's way out of line. It is crazy that we still have jury trials for crimes that are recorded. So, like, what's the penalty? Like, it should be that quick. Is there any excuse you can think of that would be okay? Yeah, I mean, the judge should listen to both sides, but it should be like a one-day thing, right? It should be like, it should take an hour. I was just gonna say, one hour. Yeah, I think this thing's been drawn out for like, what, six, seven months? Like, it's ridiculous. It should just be like, it's on video. Look at it. Look at it, judge. What do you think? Okay, we'll just go with whatever you think. And just take it from there. And both sides can appeal, whatever, because that's our shitty system. Just endless appeals or whatever. If you have the coin. So they'll have to watch the video again. Yeah. Now that I'm watching it again, I can see a different angle, like, I mean, it makes it clear that he's guilty. Right. Anyway, moving on. Alleged. Alleged, sorry. Um, oh, we got the 20, speaking of crime, we got the 2023 Burlington Police Chief's Report. More calls, more calls to police, but less gun violence. Is that accurate? I know. Yeah, there hasn't been a much in a while. You know, there have been a little bit here and there, but it got cold. I mean, there's three Palestinian students with they've moved it into the side of the side streets. It's no longer, you know, in the downtown area. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So compared to the five year average of 2018 to 2022, Brazilian police say overdoses rose by 252%. Wow. That's not ideal. It's terrible. And larceny and other property crimes rose by 70%. They go hand in hand. Larceny. Yeah, they do go hand in hand. What is actual larceny? Stealing. Grand larceny is stealing something big. Like a piano. Yeah, I forgot what it is, a hundred dollars, I think it's a thousand dollars, it's grand theft, yeah, grand theft. All right, well, so there's that, yeah, it came out pretty quick, your report, I mean, if it comes out quick, that means they're proud of it, right? So police reported 16 incidents of gun violence last year, oh, I'm sorry, 16 incidents this year, and last year was 26 incidents. So that's a big drop. Sure is. We're all looking around like... We're all making faces like... We're not really convinced yet. Well, I mean, whatever's going on isn'their fault. I would agree with that. You know, it's... They're just the ones who answer the phone. You know. It's all these other problems. The mental health problems, the drug addicts and all that. That's the problem, you know, the gangs. There is a larger policy issue that needs to be addressed. And hopefully, it will happen. But yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I mean, we talk about this all the time. But like, just walking downtown doesn't feel cool anymore. Right. Actually, we did all right. We went downtown. Christmas, right before Christmas. What time of day was it? Sunday afternoon, about 2 o'clock. OK. That's fine. And it was a... On Christmas day, no one around. It was bustling. We haven't been down there at night in years or something. I don't know. I can't even remember the last time. We'd never go out at night anyways. Yeah, we have the backyard. What more do we need? Agreed. That's the restaurant. That's the bar, that's the recreation, that's all of it. Yeah, so this is an interesting thing they put out so quickly, and it sounds like John Murad, who somehow is still in charge. Right. I guess good for him. I don't have a lot to say about the dude, but I'm just surprised that like... It's hard to get fired in Vermont. But I thought he was, and then he came back. I don't know. I don't know the dude'story. I don't really do his character, can't speak up, can't really speak on him. But just surprised that he'still hanging around. That maybe tells me that no one else wants the job. But he seemed pretty hopeful in this report, but what's he gonna do? All right, Glo, your town, Tunbridge. I've been to the World's Fair once in Tunbridge. That was it. And another time in New York. Which one was bigger? I still have the salt and pepper shakers I bought for my parents while I was there in 1964 with my cousin. In Tunbridge or New York? New York. What's the swag for the Tunbridge Fair? Probably some stuffed animal that you know, they have those arcades and all that old-fashioned stuff that people still play. So we have a bit of a brouhaha in Tunbridge over fair use of trails. What kind of trails? I mean like pedestrian trails? Through the woods trails? Biking trails? Are they paved? Are they dirt? They're not paved. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm going to assume they're not paved. So here's the problem. A couple of lawyers... Yeah. Have some property. Bought some property. They bought some property, so you're telling me that they are from somewhere else. They bought some property in 2015, but this has been going on a while, I think. So, yeah, this is John Echeverria and Karen Pratt. Anytime there's a married couple with different last names... Ugh! What's that mean? Okay, here's a couple of things. First of all, they're not going to tip you. Oh, okay. Second of all, they're going to be, they're going to be, don't get them on your homeowners association. Just, they're going to be annoying. Yeah, I know. But don't forget, there's customs that the women do keep their name, or they choose their mother's name, or the sons choose the mother's name, and the daughters, you know, they choose whatever. We're talking about United States culture. I was talking about Portugal. Portugal, yeah. I mean, if they had like a hyphenated name, that's different. But like, when there's a couple with two totally separate last names, I'm like, okay. What if they hyphenated both their names and they both took those hyphenated names? That would show me a level of progressive thinking that I don'think these people are ready to accept. Oh, yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna close my ears. I don't want to hear about this. I know. They don't want people walking through their property. They don't want people cycling through their property. Okay. And so it's there. This is in Tunbridge. They're fighting. And looks like it's gonna go to the Supreme Court. And he teaches at the Vermont Law School. Where are they originally from? Does it say? Oh, Washington, D.C. Of course. I like that you knew that they were originally from somewhere else. Well, just that attitude. I mean, I had 25 acres, and the vast trail went through it, the snowmobile trail. I even gave them permission. I said, sure, go ahead. And people used my trails that I built and all along the brook. Yeah, it's my property. I don't care. Nobody cared. Everybody was walking all through the woods, over people's property You're a better person than those two Yeah I like to see like, where is the bike trail in relation to their actual property? They have 325 acres Is it going right by their bedroom window? You know what I mean? Or is it like a mile away? 325 acres? They have 325 acres Oh come on, oh man And you're measly little 25 acres? and you let the snowmobilers come through? Sure. I think, legalistically speaking, this couple are pricks. Right. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I hope they get spit on when they go to the local store. I mean. For anyone listening, so that's, that is, what are their names? That's John Echeverria and Karen Pratt. So, you know, refer to the previous Lugie conversation. Your snout rocket's ready. Alright, moving on. Oh, so we talked last week, like, can you actually come to Vermont for the aid in dying law? We didn't know, for sure. And here we are, yeah. She's the one that sued, I think, to have it. She sued Vermont? Yeah. You're kidding, she sued Vermont? Yeah, so she could come up here and die. I think she sued Connecticut. Oh, she sued Connecticut. Yeah, OK. I was going to say. Yeah. That doesn't make sense. But she came up here to die, basically. That's in the state letter. Boy, she looks good. Well, that's. I know, I know. I mean, you don't put your hospital photo when they ask you for a photo. So this woman, Linda Blustein, she is definitely a trailblazer for the cause, and hopefully through her efforts and her winning this, more people will be able to do this. What did we say last week? Like 216 or something around that? People have used it? Yeah. Oh, great. So 216 deaths have occurred as a result of this? I think it was something like that. It was like the low 200s. Yeah, yeah. Between 216 and 230, something like that. So yeah, good for her. The Sky Administration urges Vermont lawmakers to address crime. Thanks. Yeah. Well, this is all new to Vermont, I think. You know, this drug thing, the crime. I mean, it really was one of those states that I think most people felt really safe in. And, you know, because of drugs coming up from we know where. Springfield, Massachusetts. And, yeah. And for some reason, I don't know why people get addicted to it, you know? Like I know, I know, we've talked about this, so... That's a good point. I wonder if it's like because it'so new, and because like the state vibe, I mean maybe the Chittenden County vibe, like maybe, I'm not speaking of the whole state, is like progressive, like let's, what's the, how can we help, you know, that kind of thing, like maybe that's not actually helping. Like maybe there needs to be a little bit more of a stricter stance. I don't know. I'm not advocating that. I'm just talking out loud. Whatever we're doing is not working. It's been a couple of years. We've been very slow to change. They're not trying anything. I haven't read any big news stories about things they're doing differently. But as far as state legislature, what can they do? How about if we have, like, state troopers by the border... And... Checking for people with Massachusetts license plates? And just, you know, once in a while, shut down a lane and start flagging people. Flagging for what? Like, what would you... If you're the trooper, and you're looking at cars, what's going to tip you off to pull that car over? You're right. How about tinted windows? Quick aside, when I was in Florida, all the windows are so dark, you cannot see into any car. That'scary. They're all illegal. That is illegal, isn't it? Oh yeah, it's very illegal, but it'so common. Everyone just looks the other way. Is it federally illegal or just Florida illegal? I'm pretty sure it's... I don't know. I think it's Florida. It'state by state maybe. You cannot see in the cars at all. No. Maybe it is federal. The windshield, though, that's clear, right? They gotta see out, but it's probably tinted enough where they could see out, but, you know, yeah. It's like sunglasses. Yeah. What about at night, though? Man, that would be a pain. I don't do a lot of night driving. Yeah, I didn't know that. And it should be. I agree. But then who's going to enforce it? You're gonna pull every car over that has black windows? Well, maybe they should well, I guess the point we're like if everyone's doing it you can't enforce it anymore, right? well Hmm, how would you go about doing that? major crackdown Visited by the Florida Police Department I think because Scott is a Republican and he can do this, I think the legislature is worried about how it looks, if they're tough on crime, I think, you know. But they gotta do something. I feel like, I don't know about Vermont specifically, but I feel like the whole country's mood has shifted very much to the right on crime. I feel like everyone's like, you know what, be tough. It's fine, you're okay. Like, go extreme that way for a couple years, and then we're gonna want you, we're gonna want you, then the pendulum's gonna swing. But where do you put people? Who supervises any, you know, this is... Can we bus them to New Hampshire? This is an epidemic, you know, and it's... I think down there, I wonder if they even... What their ideas are. He's like, yeah, when people walk out with stuff, we just have to let them walk out with stuff. They know it. He's like, I told my supervisor, are you guys leaving with stuff? He's like, yeah, just let them go. That's crazy. But they do call the police, I hope, or do something, or take a picture, or nothing. It's cheaper to let them go than it is to litigate them. Oh, my gosh. I guess it gets to the point where if 90% of the people are stealing, well then, right? Then it'll make a difference. Maybe. I mean, it will get to that point, right? Eventually, like, people will be like, wait a minute. Why should I have to buy this? Like, I see this guy walking right out in front of me with, like, just with the stuff. Like, why should I pay? Like, I'll just walk out, too. Yeah, just follow him. He knows. They must have like a percentage, like when it gets to 8% then we have to start like busting heads or whatever. Well, our next story is about retail theft and how South Burlington is trying to deal with it. And they actually show a guy stealing a bunch of clothes. He goes into, he takes a bunch of clothes into the changing room, takes all the tags off of them. I mean, you can hear him. And he puts a bunch of layers on, the old Steve Bannon, and he's walking out, and the cops are there. Hey, can I talk to you? Why are you wearing clothes for eight seasons? He's like, what? This is who I walked in with. So people are getting arrested for it, but the dummies, they're not just going in and out. I think that's what a lot of these people are doing. They're going straight in grab something and they're gone. Yeah, like if I walked into TJ Maxx, I'm not advocating this I just walked directly in Grabbed three pairs of shoes walk directly out Nobody would stop. I was gonna stop me. What'something the Young woman who greeted me is she gonna chase after me? Like she don't know what I have in my pocket Yeah, they don't want people get hurt right the employees I I did mention that like in November, I think I was coming out of TJ Maxx. Yeah. And there was like at least one cop car if not two and about three police officers cuffing a woman with a shopping cart that was just filled to the top with clothes. What's the thing? You got to be subtle about it. You got to be subtle about it? Like, it's um... You mean the whole cart is being subtle? No, subtle is like taking two things. Oh, oh, I thought you were saying that she was... Not a cart. A cart full of clothes is never subtle. She's like breaking the thieves' code. It's like if everyone's cool, just take a couple things. Just take a couple things every other day. But she's like putting it in their face. So they have to do something about that. You know what I mean? She may have done it before, too. So as soon as she walked in, who knows? It's like if you're a drug dealer and you're dealing some, you know, the cops might look the other way if you're just low level. Once you hit a point where like you're making them have to look at you, then it's a problem. Right, Matt? That's what I've learned from the movies we've watched. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I don't know. Scott administration wants some action, but what do you do? but also like isn'that what he'supposed to say like yeah tough on crime okay well what are your ideas like yeah let's have some ideas you don't ever hear about ideas you hear about like yeah the ACLU's already has serious concerns of Scott's proposal so did he propose like there was gonna be police monitoring the changing rooms? Yes, more police in changing rooms. I don't know his proposals, let me see if I can... Addressing the backlog, pending cases. How about if they just get like people who look like cops? You know, you could just get a cheap uniform and just walk around the store. That alone, that might do something. Just pay some veterans to pretend to be cops? Yeah. I mean, you know, whoops, there goes our lights again. Flashing. Something's going on. This place is going to burn down. I hope it's while we're gone. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what, you know. I can't imagine what it's going to take, you know, to change things back around. So Scott wants to eliminate the $200 cap on bail. It seems fair. I'm trying to find other things that they want to do. I need this very quickly. Sorry. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Oh well, next story. Yeah, we're on a new show, whatever. Figure it out, Google it. Next, a... Oh, this is interesting. A former, very former, Twin Valley Elementary School student is suing Monsanto over PCB-related injuries. That she got at her school? Yeah. In the early 1980s. Twin Valley Elementary School in Wilmington. I mean... How could she prove it? Or how is she proving it? These are good questions. First of all, I will say, just allegedly, she's probably right. And also, there's no way they can let this happen. No. Because it'll open the floodgates. People sue Monsanto every day. Yeah, every elementary school is going to be like, well, I was also there, I was in the school, I was in that school. And then it's a class action suit. But also, Monsanto has been poisoning us in many ways for their existence. So maybe they should be sued out of existence. I mean, I would like that, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. Well, if maybe more people join her, well, something might happen. So she claims in a lawsuit that she was exposed toxic PCBs, or glow as you know them, polychlorinated biphenyls, at the school that were manufactured by the company and developed health problems as a result, including lymphoma. It's love canal all over again. Whenever you say love canal, my mind goes right to the gutter. I don't know if I'm going to make it. You mean a crotch. What if I didn't? What if I meant something else? Well, if you have a foot fetish, maybe. Oh, I didn'think of that. Anyway. So, yeah. So she'suing. Yeah, PCBs can cause cancer, as well as immune, reproductive, nervous system and endocrine effects. So I mean, again, she's right. She probably did get effects from this place. How can you prove it? And also, Monsanto is gonna be like, okay, we're Afghanistan. You have the clocks, we have the time. We're just gonna keep suing you until you go away. Anybody who went to any school in this country before 1990 probably got this or is a good chance that we're all affected by stuff like this. Y'all got brain disease. Y'all got something. But yeah, I mean, it's just... And asbestos, too. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But, you know... Dioxin. That's another one. What does that one do? I don't know, but it's a big landfill site in Newark, I mean it was, where it's contaminated with dioxin and it's I think it's a superfund site. Anyway, just thinking about out loud. Superfund means not good, right? Correct. Okay, yeah. We have a landfill story coming up actually. Oh boy. Right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. I pulled that Just for you, actually. All right, so good luck to... What's this woman's name? Maybe she's not named. I don'think she was. Who knows what could happen if she does, you know? Monsanto might take her out. Right. Yeah, I mean, I feel like Monsanto is one of those things where like Biden or even Trump just come out against them. Mm-hmm, a hunch. They have like a hundred percent disapproval rating Them like just make them your punching bag. They've never done a good thing. No, they've never done a good thing Never they just make the country less healthy in a variety of ways Yep, they're the ones with the seeds that won't germinate again So you can't do what everybody for generations throughout thousands of years have done which is you collect the seed and then for next year you plant it. Well, their seed is sterile, so it won't re-seed. When you told me that is something that's absolutely terrifying, but that's not something that you can explain to someone in a second. You know what I mean? You can't say, oh, it gives you cancer. It's like, no, actually there's these seeds. Actually, we rely on seeds. It requires a story. which means no one's ever gonna listen. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't mean like, I listen. But nobody really knows much about it or cares for the most part. You know, it's like you go to the grocery store and... Most people are like, I don't eat seeds. I think people just see the word Monsanto in a headline, and just go, I hate them. But they don't read the story. You know, they do some really bad things. Only bad things. Yeah, right. They only do bad things. Right. They're not good. They're only bad. Michael Clayton. Like the movie, Michael Clayton. What's that about? I forget. The loss. The what? Lawsuit against somebody like Monsanto. Against some Monsanto type company. They don't say Monsanto, but it's Monsanto. It's a great movie. All right, last story before the break. Speaking of the environment, the Department of Environmental Conservation is reminding remonters of what they, what's the no flush list? Do you know what you can't flush down the toilet? Um, oh wow, look at that. I think she threw something in the toilet. Well, cat litter. People, some people whose cat I've taken care of, that's, they use, You wouldn't use clay, even if I was not, anyway. Okay, okay. We got a witness on the stand here. We got a witness like, what have you done with cat litter? Like, let's interrogate this. Well, it could be made of anything, but clay, definitely not. I would never do that because clay will then turn your pipes into, well, whatever. Yeah. But now they have all kinds of stuff. and this last one was made out of potatoes? Or no, corn. It was corn. So, and I didn't see bags to put this litter in. So I thought- Okay, hold on. I'm imagining a kitty litter box full of curls of corn. So please tell me that's not what the case. No, no, that's not. Okay, okay. No. So I thought, oh, corn, okay. But it became like this solid mass. It became like this. That's what you want, right? So you can scoop it and put it in the bag. No, I mean, when I already dumped it in the toilet and I flushed. You dumped it? Oh, you! Because... You knew she was confessing to the crime, didn't you? Well, I didn't see anything that they would use for that. So I thought, well, maybe it's one of those flushable ones. There are those, but I still, from then on, I am not going to trust any cat litter that says it's flushable. Because I was like, holy shit, I may have to get the plunger. You know when the toilet starts rising, you don't know when it's gonna stop. I've been there. We've all been there. No, I've never had a poop that big. Well, look, it's not. I've met the water rising. It's not necessarily the size of your, this is a very poop sensitive. It's not necessarily the size of your poop. It's that you're the last poop on a problem that's been already down there. You know what I mean? What do you mean? For example, if I'm in a house and they've been flushing this clay, this corn kitty litter for six months, and I go in there and I drop a deuce, and suddenly it's rising, I'm like, it's not me. It's that they've been stuffing up the pipes forever. But now you're talking about somewhere else besides your own home. Yeah, I've never... Right? You're talking about like a public bathroom? No, no, I've never... a public bathroom. You don't drop a deuce ever in a public bathroom? Like George Costanza. No, I try to exclusively do that. Leave it, huh? You're one of those. Look, look. I have a gym membership, so if I'm in the morning, I have my coffee, I want to get to the gym so I can do my business there, and then have my workout. You mean you can wait, you can hold on to it all the way? I mean, I'm not like, my knees aren't buckling. But you're saying you have the option of doing it here in your home before you leave? If I feel like I have to do it before I leave, I'll do it. Okay. But if I'm like, you know, I'll probably do it there. Okay. So you're not feeling the urge yet? Yeah. You are feeling the urge. No, no. I'm like, the urge is coming. It's brewing. I don't get that pre-brewing. So for me, it's like an emergency. Mount St. Helens. Do you go from like zero to emergency? You don't have like an in-between time where it's like... No, I don't have that choice. Because if I do stall... You don't know how many times I've just got out of the shower. Just like, let me in, let me in. Or he'shaving. And I swear to God, I feel like I'm gonna do it right there in the garbage can in the kitchen if he doesn't get out. Well, why don't you knock on the door and be like, get out. No, because he's in a... I hate to keep bothering the guy. Well, I'd rather you bother me. What's a bother? You bother him, you use him as a garbage can. You probably make me clean it up. No. Can't believe this show. How did we do it? It had gone down toilet. It's a very doo-doo show. So, other things you cannot flush, Matt, just so you know. Tissues? You can't flush tissues? No, isn't it the same kind of paper as what you wipe your rash with? Are they talking about the wipes? No, I think these are just like... Kleenex have gotten so... Oh, we've got oil. Oh, this one'scented oleander, you know, or whatever. Cat litter, diapers. Now, who would do that? That is such a dumbass. Two minutes ago, I was like, who would flush cat litter? So here we are. But I mean, that is stupid. Coffee grounds? That's interesting. Why would that make a difference? Who is ready to make coffee? The guy opens the coffee, like, oh, the old grounds. They walk right into the bathroom. What? Open the toilet. Who does that? Who is that person? Who's like, oh, out of sight, out of mind. Ready for my new coffee. That is weird. And then other items not friendly to septic systems, which is very vague. These are like little army men, like what is that? Cherry bombs. Even items advertised as flushable, like, so that's your point, those flushable wipes? They're not really flushable, huh? Damn, I got a whole big box of them from Costco. I know a family where the kids grew up on flushable wipes, that's all they've known. They just like, these like, moisturized, like, kind of pads where they like, they're scented, I'm like, what is your life? You need some Scott single ply to like, figure out like, yeah. My mom used to buy prison paper. Prison toilet paper. Single ply, Scott. Because we had all these kids in our house all the time. And so like, they'd go drop it, and they'd be like, what's wrong with your bathroom? And I'm like, well, go home! I'm like, oh. Well, that's what we use then, the prison stuff. Is that what you're saying? Yes, very single ply. That's not prison stuff. Y'all do not use that. Actually, use your business. No, no. Go ahead. Check it out. No, it's not. But it doesn't feel like the prison toilet paper. Well, I wouldn't know. I was never in prison. It's a nickname for really bad toilet paper, really cheap toilet paper. Yeah, they call it prison paper. Is it like newspaper where it's just kind of like- It ain't much better. It ain't much better than that. It'single ply. It's like, okay, so newspapers here, deli papers one step up, then like the stuff that you sit on at the doctor's office one step up, and then the next one is Scott. Scott single ply tissue paper. That's the progression. Don't you know? I think we are ready for a break. All right, got some good old fashioned Vermont hip hop. Mavstar featuring Subtex. The song is Elixir of Life. It's like a dream, it's like a dream Like they cloned Tyrone Had a broken nose and a broken nose On Jupiter, pull strings, Pinocchio Flex to the slopes of snow to see green skies Likes of an overdose What's a frown tap? How we supposed to know? Now it's a sight war Overnight, my bedsheets cold, that's a do-si-do Woah, math, what up now? Sip, sippin' on Alexa I'm gripping the mic differences I'm swimming in a glimmer of light A little razzle-dazzle running on diesel It's lethal to be casual with a sequel to episode 1 Heaven don't come to nobody who never rode into the sun I chose to become the main protagonist Ain't no passionate ones that be having it their own way Always, there's usually a cause That makes you wince when you reflect on your flaws It's worth the applause when the curtains come crashing And you're left backstage wondering what happened Wonder who's looking, scouting that talent With whom you'll be cooking when the scale come to balance You better find your way north on the atlas Cause half the time the mastermind is blind to circumstances We're back So, yeah, Jericho So I read the story, so Judges dismissed a Jericho road rage case after ruling that the defendant acted in self-defense When I read the story, it's unclear what was the self-defense. He stabbed a guy, right? Right. But they couldn't prove that he was the aggressor. Okay. So, he was just defending himself, because this other guy. So they dropped the charges. Yeah, and he was charged as a youthful offender, and his case was heard in Chittenden County. I didn't realize 19 was a youthful offender. I think he's 19 now. Was he 19 then? He was 19 at the time. I thought that sounded a little old. I was thinking 17, 18. You know, a major, you know, it's kind of a big crime, you know. I feel like 19 now is different than 19 and like 1950. Like 1930, they're off to war, right? Like they're all going to fight Hitler. Like 19 now, they're like... In Vietnam in the 60s? Yeah, yeah, I think people grow up fast. Yeah, 19 year olds, like, I don't know. 19 is the old 17. I think 19 is the old 14. I mean, when I think of like a 19 year old, like, okay, I'm not trying to like besmirch all 19 year olds, because obviously there's outliers, but I think most 19 year olds I run into don't really know how to do a lot of stuff. Right. And even driving is becoming less popular. Good. Hey! Sound like Gloria now. I don't know. So this guy stabbed another guy, and the judge is like, Ah, you full offender. Too young to be charged as an adult, but old enough to stab a stranger. And what was he doing carrying a knife in the first place? You're not carrying a knife at all times? Nope, not anymore. Maybe go back to it. This story has very little information. We don't know what happened. But at some point in a road rage incident, somebody gets stabbed. It comes in the judge's rule that the guy who was the stabby was on the right side of the law. Glo, what percentage of Americans? I don't have the answer. So we're all just spitballing here. So don't feel pressure. What percentage of Americans do you think carry a knife at all times? Well, I only carried one because I... What kind of knife? What do you mean? Like a Swiss Army knife? Well, it's not gonna... No, like... I'm not gonna be like... Here's my wine corker. Here's my screwdriver. No, like a blade, you know? Like a pickstabber. Well, where would you keep it? My pocket. I used to carry one. It goes down. Glo used to carry one. My brother carries one, of course. But I carried it because I used to cut the tapes off the trees where they were going to cut them all down for development. So you're talking about a pocket knife. Like a knife that like, if I hold it and I click a button and the blade pops up. Not a Swiss blade, but not a stiletto. No, it's like a 4-inch blade. It's the one I showed you I have. It's like my key fob. You push the button and the thing... A little bit longer, a little bit more masculine. I'll take care of my key fob. Do you know how to work a knife? Yes. Yeah, because he's black belt, remember? That's right. I know how to defend a knife. You know how to defend a knife. Come at me with a knife. I'll block it, bro. Okay. No kidding. I did when I was 14. Might be a little rusty. 30 years ago. Shit, I was supposed to do this. I don't know if there's been innovations in knife approaches. I think that's a very individual thing, knife approaches. Most people don't know how to use it. Most people come like this, or they come like, okay, so this is not a visual medium, so they come up from their side to stab you, or they come from, they start at their ear and come across to try to stab you, or they come overhand, but that's like a slasher film, it's very rare, you know. It's like running down the street, chased by somebody. Yeah, if Norman Bates tries to get me, those are the three main knife approaches. Okay, I don't know the ins and outs about using a knife. You've never been trained in Tung Tzu though? No. All right, anyway, so Matt, you carry a knife, we should all be knife bros. Did you ever think about carrying a gun? No, man, I don't like guns. I think I've been traumatized by a very youthful experience where my dad took me out shooting. and really he's taking my brother out shooting, but I was there, because like, I can't just leave, just get alone. So of course my dad is like, yeah, you know, taking my brother out shooting, and then like, I guess you have a turn. And like the kick was so much, and the bang, you know, my brother's probably 11, and I'm probably 8, so I was scared. And it just kind of turned me off immediately. Yeah, they were kind of fun when I was younger, but... Guns? Yeah, my uncle used to be into guns, and we'd have target practice with him. But he was very controlling about what you had to do. Nobody's waving a gun around. It was kind of fun, but I'm such a terrible shot that I'd be like Barney Fife if I ever had to use it. Matt was mugged, four innocent people were killed. Yeah, of course I only had one bullet, like Barney, but no. But I don't know, I wouldn't carry one. Yeah, me neither. I can't remember if I said this last year, but were talking to my, I had dinner with my dad and his wife and my brother. and actually lunch, and my dad was like, how many guns do you have? Obviously to my brother, because he knows my answer is none, because he thinks I'm a pussy. And my brother's like, he's like kind of mentally tallying them. He goes, I don't exactly know, but at least 10. And that scores points with your dad? No, he wasn't saying it to score points, he was just saying it to answer the question. No, but I mean, your dad was proud of that maybe, or no? I would be a little afraid at that point. I don't know my dad's reaction. I think he was like, that's a lot. But also like, and he goes, you have an AR-15? He goes, oh yeah. I'm like, do you live in a two bedroom condo? Where do you put them all? He lives alone. So I mean, there's no kids around, so it's totally safe. But it's just like, damn, that's a lot. That's America. So does he just enjoy shooting a gun or what's the point of having ten? Well, it's hard for me to speak for him, but I would say he definitely enjoys shooting guns. I think he could probably tell you that they shoot differently. You know what I mean? People have different golf clubs, that kind of thing, I guess. This one's for that's for this. like so like he would use he would use them differently like but I think ultimately it's him anticipating Armageddon societal collapse like needing to have guns in. That's not gonna help you I mean it might for a little while. What's gonna really help you think? Stock up on peanut butter. It'll be It's gonna be a big commodity. You got 10 guns? I got 10 gallons of PD&J. And Aquafina. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's just... That's a lot. In my opinion. But you know, the government's got drones that'll just drop a bomb right on your house. You know, you won't even see it coming. If they really want to kill you. I don'think that he's worried about, like, government. I think he's worried about, like, Zero government. Anarchy. I think he's thinking, and again, I'm speaking for him and he's not told me this, so he listens sometimes, but not really. But I think he's thinking, like, if I have to kill my neighbors. Well, you might have a little rationale there. Some of the neighbors we've had. From everything you've told me about Florida? I could see why. Well, I don'think he's trying to kill them because he doesn't like them. He's more like, I'm going to kill them because they have food, I mean, I need their food. Moving on. I hope your brother wasn't listening. This show is like so random, deep dive. We're all over the place. Linden Rescue, isn't it ironic? So, a London ambulance crashed into another car while transporting a patient. That sounds funny for some reason. Yeah, it's probably been done in the movies a hundred times. Yeah, you can just see the doors busted open and sliding down. Down the hill, down the knob hill, down in San Francisco. Yeah, exactly. My question is, how do you turn in front of an ambulance? Well, Matt, you're on drugs. Or you're looking at your phone. And you think you could beat them. I just know I can beat them. That's Gloria driving. Her little Prius. Her Prius C. Zero to 60 in two minutes. I know I can beat them. Oh my gosh. Remember that first time we drove on 89, we're going up that steep hill. And my car couldn't go faster than 40. And I realized there is even another more economical setting to my car. So now that I figured out the buttons, I could make it now go up a hill at least 55. You had clicked slowpoke mode? She does drive like my goo. I do. I try to. I mean, most of the time, if I don't have anywhere to be, then there's absolutely no rush. I will do. Except, there's no rush, but I will not stop at stop signs. I'm not in a rush, but damn, I'm just gonna roll right through this I mean, those are for civilians, right? Not for Glo Hey, if there's nobody around, come on If it'snowy, I won't stop at stop signs Or dark, or late, or early I mean, you kind of slow down to assess the situation Then you keep going Because... Look for cops. Look, if a cop pulls me over for slow, for California rolling, a four-way stop at four in the morning, fuck that cop. Right, I mean... That's how they catch people, though. I know, but like... You know... Give me your badge number. You could fight that in court, you know. I've done that. I would never think about that, because they'd be right. I'm going to take responsibility for what I did. Gloria was in a three-year battle, legal battle. Gloria versus the Montpelier Police Department. So this happened at 4 p.m. No one was injured. Except for the person who was already sick in the first place, right? No one was injured. One person, still injured. No change. Moving on. This is a question. Are the investments in Vermont's nurse shortage paying off? Nobody knows because they don't have any qualifying anything. This is how things are done in Vermont. Let's just dump millions of dollars in these programs and never actually assess if it's working. Let's do a bunch of different things. Right. And never actually check if it's actually helping. Or check where the money goes. Yep. They invested $8 million in student loan forgiveness. But that's just if people stay here for a year. Right. Then they can bugger off, see wherever they want to go. Should have been two years. It should have been one year for everyone, two years for health care. And then maybe they get a larger forgiveness. Right. Yeah, man, like, the problem is, like, people graduate here and they just want to leave because they're like, eh. Done this for four years? Five years? Because it's not a place for 22-year-olds, right? It's a place for 35-year-olds. Not anymore, yeah. It used to be, I think. It used to be a real college town. You saw kids all the time walking around. Well, they walk around, but then when they're done, they're like, I'm outta here. Yeah, they're gone. You're right. There's no... The people who live here are the... It's an older crowd....upperly mobile, 35 to 48 or something. We gotta get these nurses impregnated and clamped down. Like... What? That was... Sorry. No, no. I said... Anyway, we... Well, you were thinking of your friend coming over. Never mind. Whoa. Never mind. That was something I was... about sooner, earlier, I mean. So I'm saying like, there needs to be something, I would use the impregnation as an example, but like, there needs to be something for like, these nurses to like, have like, an attachment to the area. And I don'think they do. No, no. Well, where are they gonna live? Right. You know, they got all the student loans. Student loans, you can't afford, I mean, they're making pretty better money than I ever made, probably. But it'still, you know, maybe it's not enough. They look at like mass general, they're like, well, that's a certain percentage higher. Might as well go there. What's the point of staying here? Yeah. And also, I'm in a city that's vibrant, right? I'm not like, I'm not stepping over needles when I go downtown. And I'm not like, that is true. That's used downtown used to be a selling point. Big time selling point. Now it's not. Well, it still is. You think so? Well, we did see some activity. Oh, they had a good year down there. Oh, they did? Yeah, the merchants had a good year. No kidding. Yeah, they had a good year. See, so let's not besmirch all of it. Yeah, I think we did. But I'm not going there tonight. Yeah, they spent so much money. I mean, and they still don't know if it's working. Nobody keeps track of anything in this state. Where it goes. It's like, I wonder if every state's like this. Is it just free for all? With government money? This is why we pay so many taxes? Because they're just stealing money. I don't know man. In my shitty little job, I have to do reports every six months. This is what we did, this is what increased, this is what didn't. and like his rationale like does not everyone live like that like is it that that only exists like the small level like a government level they're just like yeah you're fine yeah no it's checking anyway yeah it's too hard to check so we'll just not move on ultrasound training is expanding what a relief. So like, okay, I know ultrasound is for babies, but also for other stuff, right? Yeah, I mean, I think so. You've had an ultrasound. That's how they found them. Oh, right. Yeah. tumor. Where was it? But if I don't want to, if I don't want the answer, they tell me to move on. Like, I don't know. Ovary. Oh, okay. That's fine. Five inches. Oh, that's a big tumor. I know. And, hey, I'm still here to talk about it. Here's a question about ovaries. Okay. Do you still need them? Yes, because even though they secrete hormones, of course they don't secrete them anywhere near before menopause. But they are still secreting hormones, and that helps with bone density. It helps with, you know, you still could use those hormones. So women who have had both ovaries, or the whole entire thing removed, then they don't get that. So sometimes they even have to go on like creams, hormone creams, or pills, or whatever, because their bodies don't do anything, because they're gone. Yeah, good question. That was a good question. I thought once you decided like I've used them or I'm not gonna use them, it's like, you know, this is just dead weight in here. Or, you know, make more room for fat instead, right? So pull that out and makes room. I wouldn'try to make room for fat, but I thought maybe, you know, it's just... And, you know, eventually that's what would happen. So, um, Ultrasounds. So yeah, so they're trying to train more people to do this, which This is at the hospital in St. Johnsbury, the Northeastern Vermont Regional Hospital. Have you ever seen an ultrasound, Matt? What do you mean? Like the pictures they show? No, have you ever been in the room where someone's doing it? No. I don'think so. I don'think that's allowed, is it? Or is it? Oh, wait. It depends. I don't know. For pregnant women? Sometimes they do it for like other man stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I don'think so. Have you? Yeah. You have? Yeah. From? Oh, okay. It's magic. It isn't it? It's amazing. It's a blob. Yeah, actually I think I've had it done to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you watch it. Yeah, it's kind of cool. Yeah It's very weird. It's like how does this it's it feels like both like Very innovative and also very old-fashioned at the same time. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like how is it? How is it this better but also it's amazing that's happening Haven'they improved on this? Yeah, can we get a clear screen? I mean, come on, this is like watching TV in the 60s. Yeah, right. It's like a car. It's like, this is amazing. But it's not flying. We've been spoiled. Yeah. Well, hopefully they'll be able to... So what are they trying to do? They're trying to give other people schooling on this? Who work in a hospital, I guess? I wonder what the schooling is. I mean, like, is it a week? Is it a month see that blob? That blob is this you see that blob that blob is a baby But it seems like this is the future of healthcare where everybody's doing everything we're not like it's like yeah your 4-year degree, cool. But also, get a 2-year degree and then we'll just train you on these few things that we need you to do because that's actually what people are coming in for. It's like, we don't need that many podiatrists, but we do need a lot of people to do ultrasounds. It makes sense. People can do multitask, do different jobs and stuff. Hopefully they get paid more. I mean, hopefully if you go through this training, your salary increases. My brother did that for a while, because he was a nurse for 40 something years. And he was a urology nurse. He was the guy that whenever they needed a catheter or something, that was his job. So he was all over the hospital. But then he started doing this other, this more... Non-catheter thing? Yeah, yeah. It was just sitting at a desk. Administrative. Yeah, administrative stuff. But he was doing both, so he'd be doing his administration, and they go, oh, we need you, Greg, you know, because I got to finish this report. Yeah, you got to go with this old man's dong. Yeah, that's what he did. Did he do women as well? I guess he did everybody. I guess. I don't know. Ours is a lot shorter than yours. I never asked him. God bless you. All right. Moving on. What is next? Cabot, Matt, Cabot products removed from the shelves, unless you run with us, because I've not read this. Yeah, they have an employee shortage in the cut and wraps facility located in Cabot. So they had to cut some of the usual products for a while. The cracker cuts, which you should never get, because they go bad very quickly, because they're already cut, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah, PSA, don't get pre-cut cheese. No, no. Cut your own cheese. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I did that earlier. And crusted cheese bars, which I don't know what those are, and three pound cheddars. Can I just buy three pound cheddar? We have, I think, a few times, but here's my tip for anybody who's listening. Wrap your cheese, get it out of the plastic or whatever wrapping it comes in, and wrap it in aluminum foil. It prevents it from going bad. A lot, you know, like, it really makes your cheese last a lot longer. Do not leave it in a plastic bag, or even those, like, plastic containers. I mean, like, how many times has Parmesan cheese in those things? And I'm looking at it, and I'm going, you're all salt. How the hell could you be having a, you know, a fungus growing on you or anything for that matter Are you yelling at the cheese? She yelled What are you doing cheese? You're breaking my balls How could you possibly have gone bad? You know So yeah, aluminum foil Get it out of the package first Yeah, yeah Well, sometimes Matt doesn't get that but okay Well that's not like a shot we'll get a loss over that What are they all doing with three pounds of cheese? No, we didn't have three pounds of cheese. Well, we have like in those gift boxes or whatever, you get this big block of cheese. That's not three pounds. No, three pounds of cheese would like, that would ruin your day. If you eat it all at once. Well, I'm just saying, it would just ruin your day just sitting here. You'd be like, what am I going to do with this? I mean, how much does a Velveeta weigh? Three pounds of Velveeta? Like the powder? I mean, that stuff is heavy. What do you mean? Velveeta powder? No, Velveeta, the cheese. I know, the one that kind of looks more like a Blob. Well, like a block of wax. Yeah. Okay, I know you ate Velveeta growing up. That was a white trash assumption. I can confirm. I did have Velveeta growing up. You had Cool Whip, you definitely had Velveeta. Kool-Aid stands on the cheeks, no shoes, just having a great time. Yeah, that's how I grew up. A wild child. Guess what? Love it. Wish I could say the same for my fancy cheese I grew up on. You had fancy cheese, but did you have a free lifestyle? Absolutely not. I know, we covered it. I put this next story on. So are we done with the Gaba story? Yeah, they're short of, they need help. I, you know, I don't get this. We have overpopulation, probably starting year 1600. And then. We're starting in like the fucking 1600s. I thought she stopped swearing. No, I swear. I swear. She doesn't swear. I swear for her. I'm her lawyer. I swear lawyer. Counsel? Motherfucker. So what are you saying? Unemployment? People don't want to work? No, no. That's your point. But there'so many people and yet we have a shortage of workers. Now, come on. The two don't add up to me. We have all-time low unemployment rates in this country right now. I don't get it. All this time, these people... Cabot didn't have a staff of... How many people... The problem is, how many people live around Cabot? They're going to work there. You know, I mean, they're coming from every little town in that area. But once, you know, that dries up at some point. Yeah, I would say. Because the people who are starting to buy the houses up there, they're working from home. And they're not going to be on a cheese line. Right. You know. That'something horrible. I mean, yeah. The horrible cheese line. I mean, come on. You can imagine working on this job. It's tedious, it's boring. So I'll say a couple things. What do you think Cabot's paying? To be on that cheese line? Yeah, cheese line. 18 an hour. That ain't cutting it. Because I can get 20 from any grocery store in that area. And I'm not on the cheese line. So wait a minute, so how much is Cabot paying? I don't know. We don't know. Maybe they're not paying enough. We read stories about this, but we don't hear why. When they say we can't find staff, I say that's your problem. Because you're not paying enough. Yes. I know, wow, we wrapped it all up in such a- Yeah, we got it all figured out. Also, I'd say other things, like there are other opportunities, like people are, there's lots of things, I think people are online, making money doing other things. Like small online gigs just to get by, or they're driving Uber, They're doing, it's not DoorDash, what's the food one? It is. Instacart, they're doing Instacart. Especially up there where there's a lot of money, people are doing that. We knew someone who used to live in this building who made over 50 grand one year doing that. Matt! I think Matt is enough. So anyway, but also then there's like this the idea of like, I think people are just overextended on like their credit. And I think there's a crash coming soon. Oh, yeah, I think so, too. Yep. I hope it comes after the election. I hope so, too. But like, yeah, I think there's just a lot of like people who just are barely getting by, but they're living sort of beyond their means. I have no knowledge of in this at all, but it's looking a lot like 2009. Which is how I was able to buy this place so cheap. I kind of hope this should crash because I might buy another place. Because we have cash on hand, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cash is probably where you want to be right now. Yeah. Well, not that we have any knowledge. I do. No, I meant knowledge. Oh my god! No, you've got her under a mattress stash. Yeah, yeah, good to go. She's fine. So, anyway, next story. Matt, you bring us on in. All it is the headline. Okay. This is from my... I get these weather updates from Weathering Heights. Roger Aile. Because I hear them on the radio. Snowless downtown Burlington is shown with ice-free Lake Champlain. Most of the Great Lakes were ice-free with only 2% ice cover. 0.2% ice cover on Lake Superior. This means the lakes will be open for business going into February for lake-effect snowfalls in the future when we get frigid air. Can you translate that? Yeah, that last line, I have no idea what that just said. So are we... We're gonna get a lot of snow in February, is what they're saying. Yeah. Oh, no, in the, you know, how it comes up Lake Erie, all those... So we're probably going to get a lot of snow in February is what they're saying. When we come back. Of course, we'll probably get delayed four days before we can get back. But anyways, I thought that was interesting that if the lakes are... The only reason I put this on was if the lakes don't have a lot of ice on them, then they get more snow later on. Yeah, when it warms up a little or gets really cold. It's probably really cold in February up there in Lake Superior, I would think. Where it used to be. They say it's going to be a heavy and wet winter. Starting in February, probably. Well, it might start tomorrow or Sunday, whatever it is. I don't know. Yeah, we don't know. I don't know. I'm fine. Whatever happens. We're okay, right? I'm ready to roll with it. Yeah. Well, you'll probably get off from work. I mean, you're able to probably work from your home on days like that, right? So, that's not going to affect you. No. No? Oh, okay. Never mind. Actually, I'm like, you're close. Just go to work. Yeah. You can walk here. The people in Heinsberg can't get there. You can go there. I'm like, all right, that's fine. Which is fine, it's not a big deal. Get the sled dogs out. Yeah, give me points and I can just be there alone. That's fine. All right, moving on. Okay, Estieville, Esteville. I think it's Esty. Estieville. Are you familiar with this place, this thing, this idea that used to exist? No, I don't even understand. Is it actually a place in Vermont? What is this? It used to be. So Estieville used to be part of Brattleboro. Right. But now it's just Brattleboro. I see. Brattleboro swallowed Estieville. Yeah. So there is some debate over whether the Estieville bandstand should be renovated or replaced. Replaced? I mean, they're just gonna bother putting up another one knowing that nobody ever uses it That's wrong, Matt. I'm glad you said that, because I thought you were going to be like, no, keep it, keep it No, we've talked about this before. These things never get used I mean, I think it should just be restored, if possible. You know, I don't know It does seem like... I don't know She's talking herself out of it I always pick up the keys! Matt and I will turn our mics off as GLOW just talks it out. I don't know. Fortunately, it's not my decision. But it does seem like it's going to be a bunch of money. We're kind of anti-bandstand on this, anti-gazebo, you know, on this show, right? Well, but what are you going to do if you don't do anything with it? I mean, in other words, just tear it all down? It is historic. So that's where I'm having trouble with. Okay, I guess spend the money on that. Either renovated or replaced. I don't know. Which costs less. Exactly. That was going to be my next question. Whatever costs less. There. Is that so too easy? I think it's a fair stance. It's hard to say because we don't see a good picture of this thing. It's like really bad reporting. I read a letter that someone from this community wrote to the reformer saying, Are you really going to keep it? It was not convincing. That's it? That's all the person said? It was longer than that. It was like, Oh, this really means a lot to me and my childhood. Okay, you know what? Your childhood is overdue. So what? It's tall. It's like eight feet tall. Oh, yeah, I see that. So that's the thing. I mean, does it even make sense anymore as far as modern performances go? No. So I would say, tear it down. I would say tear it down. I'm also Mr. Tear it down. So, I don't know if that's like, that would be my vote, if I was on a committee. But I'd be open to hearing other viewpoints. Yeah, I don't know if it's ever being used. Do they still, you know, it'still a functional thing? Or if you rebuild it, will it become a functional thing? Or is it just going to sit there and rot again? Also, is it a thing that only old people want to save because old people like the things that they used to like? Yeah, I think those people are like 10 years older than I am. Well, this guy in the photo ain't no spring chicken. I don't like these things. I don't know. It's not that I don't like them, but yeah, I could see why. They're not functional anymore. Because you know why? We don't have those bandstands like we used to have, where people would just, right there in the middle of the park, have their instruments within, and usually within a gazebo to protect them from the elements. The junkies. But now if I go to the Shelburne farmer's market, there is inevitably someone playing, one person or a small band. There's no bandstand. I'll give them money, you know? You don't? No, I do. Oh, you do. Okay. I'm a tipper, Glo. Okay. I'm not good at a lot of stuff, but I'm a tipper. Good to know. He's Ray Liotta and good fellas. I'm 20% base when it comes to tipping. I'm 20% base. That's the floor of my tipping. I don't normally get much higher, but that's a good base. Yeah, but what you're saying is it's perfectly fine, they're playing there, they don't need a bandstand. They'd only be elevated, like if they're elevated I would never tip them, I would be like, you're too far away. Right, that's a good point. So if they're gonna redo this, they could cut it in half. Oh, they'd have to cut down that brick, that stone foundation is what you're saying. Right. See, I have to always figure out what he'saying. That's fine, that's called communication. So, um. Then I have to explain it again. I like Matt being the ultimate compromiser of like, just do half, just do half, like, no, there's none or all. Is that what it is? I guess it is, not at all. I don't know. In a remodeling job, you could cut it in half. You know, it's not going to be that easy to cut down that stone platform. Oh, they got dynamite. Oh, yeah, right. They got dynamite. Blow it up. Hey, make that the New Year's Eve celebration. Blow that up. Have a great big bonfire. Look, 4th of July is coming up. Blow it up. Let's blow it up. They got dynamite. Alright, moving on. Oh shit, I just closed the story. So there'some kids who won the Golden Ladle. I had no idea what the Golden Ladle was. Oh good, I was wondering myself. That's an interesting story, yeah. The Golden Ladle is awarded to a regional arch culinary competition at the River Valley Technical Center in Springfield, Vermont. So, it's kind of cool. It's a bunch of culinary programs in the region who come together and compete. And they kind of put their dishes against each other. And this year, the team from... Yeah, where are they from? Oh, so okay. This is a poorly written sentence. The team from Wyndham Regional Career Center? Wyndham Regional Career Center's Culinary 2 students. No, I don't know. What the hell? All right. Anyway, so the WRCC students won under the supervision of David Spanierman. and so this is what they served Glow. You ready? Okay. A spring mix in pomegranate salad. Do they take those little pits out first? Those pomegranates. It's not mentioned in the story. No. They put a placard next to it that says, like, spit the pits. Adorned with thin slices of honeycrisp apple and red pear and dressed in a classic lemon vinaigrette. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. The main course featured pan-seared medallions of pork placed over green beans with a mustard pan sauce accompanied by smashed potatoes and wasabi dots. That sounds great. Wasabi dots? Is it the real wasabi or is it nothing more than horseradish? Not in the story. Okay, nevermind. Because wasabi is very expensive. Wasabi dots straight from Hokkaido, Japan. It doesn't say that. Pork medallions, man. I've never made a pork medallion taste good. It always tastes like pork. Wait, first of all, pork medallions, what are we talking about? Like little circles that look like coins? Yeah, they've marketed them as medallions. Oh, brother. I know. Does it taste like pork? Because I don't like the taste of pork. Anything to hide the taste of pork, then I'll eat it. Yeah, I've never figured out a way to like, huh? Like bacon. Yeah. Yeah. So you too, huh? I don't like pork medallions. Polka dots? What? Pork medallions. Oh, pork medallions. Or polka dots. They're tasteless, almost. I don't know. You gotta season the fuck out of them. Yeah, you gotta season them. And they had for dessert, medjool dates stuffed with raspberries and pecans drenched in dark chocolate and served on a bed of whipped cream, dark chocolate, crushed pecans. That does sound good. That must be pretty cool to win a competition like that. I mean, they said they prepared for months to get their recipe right and do it right. I mean, that's cool, but it's also like... Waste of time. No, no. I wouldn't say that. I'd say that's a lot of time. For little return? But you don't know what kind of return they're getting. Yeah, these kids are you know, they're into cooking and this is you know This is where the chefs come from. Yeah Really? I mean the wins on the resume. Yes. No, I can take that away from them So that's good. And then maybe they'll move on to a higher level of competition from the regionals. Oh That's cool. I it's a feel-good story. I just I thought the menu was the most interesting thing Yeah, I would have replaced it with pork. How about beef? Y'all ever heard of beef? We like beef. People like beef. Alright, moving on. I've not read this, Matt. It's just a continuation of the story that we've been reading about the Brattleboro. Remember they had that for-profit people doing their ambulance stuff? So they decided to dump that and start their own. But they didn't realize they had to go through a process with the state to get it sanctioned. How could you not know that in this state? Well, they didn't know. It's like worse in Portugal here. It'so funny that no one understands process anymore, right? There's no historical knowledge of anywhere. It's like, oh, what? Did someone check my work? Like, what? After ordering three vehicles and hiring an EMS supervisor, they recently, the board here, learned that the longtime Vermont law gives regulators from the Vermont Care Board the right to decide whether a new health care project must obtain the state certificate of need or con, because con processes. I don't know what that is. you know, so they didn't know there was all this red tape involved. Oh my gosh, I really, you know, that's one thing I did love about, I do love about Vermont, that we are still back somewhere in the 1940s, which, you know, but on the other hand, this is, it's like weird to hear. It's like, have these people not been up to date? Well, it's intended to prevent unnecessary duplication of health care facilities and services, guide their establishment in order to best serve public needs, promote cost containment, and ensure the provision of an equal allocation. These people just bungled this from the very beginning. No one made a phone call. This is a year-old story. No one said, like, hey, can I do this? No one was like, let me call someone to just to check. Right. It blows my mind. Vermont government. It's all uncles and cousins. I mean, it's all like, right, like it's all. It does seem all kind of related. All right. Going to move on to some music. All right. So this is, so we start with some hip hop and moving on to some more country banjo stuff. This is Lance Mills with Lordy. When I'm stuck in the corner I got two girls on my plate One's wearing my wedding ring and one is two months late My daddy had religion and I would hear him sing I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to make a sandwich with the ingredients I got from the supermarket. I'm going to make a cocktail with the ingredients I got from the store. I'm going to make a sandwich with a lot of cheese. If I was a boy one day I'd say Whiskey and women gonna be the death of me Lordy, lordy, gonna save me from sin Alright, we're back Alright, we are Right? We're back I love when Matt like forcibly brings us back All right, so it's time for America's favorite segment about Vermont scumbags. It's time for the... Rupperbates. What? Rupperbates. Everyone pull out your thesaurus. Rupperbates. Okay, I think you've gone too far. When we're doing Rupperbates. Can you spell it? I think it's R-U-P-E-R-B-A-I, A B-A-T-E-S? Hmm, not getting anything right now, but let'see. Did you mean Rupert Bates? That! What does that mean? All I'm getting is a bunch of French. Spell again, Matt? Like Rupert Bates? I don't really know how to spell it. Alright, it's French for... Scumbags? Sounds good. Okay, let's all just take a pause. Matt did homework. He investigated. Let's appreciate his effort. I don't want to skirt by it. No, no. I think it was absolutely worth mentioning and honoring. Thank you, Matt, for introducing a new term. My father used to use that term. Really? Affectionately? No, it was people who weren't law followers and those kind of people. So he's leaning out of his car, shaking his fist like, you reprobates! His big 52 Buick. Yeah, I will try to find the real spelling, I have no idea. Yeah, check in whenever you can. So, the reprobates. Oh, my father called them cocksuckers. I swear to God. He didn't know many English words, but he knew that one. He'd be driving and calling people cocksuckers. And my mom would be, Jean, meaning Giselle, but, you know, back to Joseph. Like, he would. It was so funny, now thinking about it. So, my father... So, went from, okay, reformates to cocksuckers. So, my father would call them many things that I cannot say in this podcast because they are racist. So, I will just say yahoos. My father used the word yahoo a lot. So, Matt, it's time for... The Scumbag Map. 1, 2, 3, 4! So, the Scumbag Map takes us back to where were last week. And Enosburg Walgreens. Can we just get these dudes some cigarettes? These dudes just broke into the same place they broke into a week before. And they just steal cigarettes, mostly. That's all? Are you serious? What are they, like 10 bucks a pack now? Walgreens would do better to mail these dudes cigarettes. and have like the damage, like... Leave him out there on the sidewalk. To the dudes stealing cigarettes. There you go. To all the dudes. Yeah, I mean, just give these dudes cigarettes because they're just gonna break your window. That's a process. It's all a process. Just give them cigarettes. Here we are. This is America. Same. Same place. Same dudes. Same crime. And there's nothing else in the Walgreens that you would want? Oh, like shampoo? Matt, snacks, right? They're not criminals. They're smokers. Okay. Thanks. I mean, these dudes are not ransacking the place. They're just like, I want some cigarettes. Smash. Here they are. Got them. Do they smash only one door? I mean, what does it take to get in through these double sets of doors? In my imagined mind about these guys, they smash one door, they walk in very carefully, they grab one box of cigarettes each, and they say, you know what, that's fair. Wait a minute, you go through one door and then it brings you into a vestibule. That's a year Walgreens. It's a Walgreens right down here. It might open automatically. It's not every Walgreens. Yeah, they don't want both doors to be smashed. Because they figure if the one door gets smashed... Might as well open a second. Yeah, might as well open a second. Because then you're going to have to pay. I mean, that's logic, right? I have that once in a while. You guys grab the cigarettes and go, Do you want some smokes? I want some smokes. Okay. Let's not take anything else. because that would be uncouth. We'respectable gentlemen. We just want a cigarette. We've visited this Walgreens our entire life. We've played the many sales tax. So maybe they owe this to us. So we're fine taking this. And then they're on their merry way. Yeah. And let's do it again two nights later or whatever. They smoke through that many packs, huh? Cigarettes are fun. We've done them all. Are they selling them? Is that a hot commodity? I mean on the black market probably hit about five dollar packs. You got friends. You got a girl you like But you know five dollar packs that would generate some money, right? They're big shots now, they're big deals they're big deals Moving on to I guess still know what this kingdom weapons stolen from a Barton home Is that your family, Matt? I think my mother was actually born in Barton. It's up there in the north. We've been through it as we come from the back end of Uncle Sam. Oh, yeah. So we go along the lake, Lake Willoughby, I think, or whatever that lake is. Then we go through Barton and then down to- There's not much there. Where that puppet thing was. So we're taking that down to- Right in Puppet? Yeah, well, we're driving on that road. It's just a back way to go. Anyways, Barton. Police are investigating several weapons stolen during a break-in at a Barton home. Police say someone stole two rifles of Martin 22 caliber automatic, I'm sorry, Marlin, a Marlin 3030 bolt action along with ammunition and a sword. sword in a red case as if that's the important part I want to know what kind of sword how long is this a samurai sword or is this a broad sword is there a pirate now or Barton now or is it a samurai yeah or is it a medieval knight could be like who is down there in Barton so yeah we'll see what happens with that. If we hear of a crime where someone is like, you know, cut with a samurai sword, we'll know it came from Barton. Moving on. A second Massachusetts man has been sentenced to time served after being found with drugs, guns, and Barry. Here we go again. We've mentioned him just a time ago. He served. Okay, where's he from? Springfield, Massachusetts, which is we know is the worst place in Vermont. It's gotta be the headquarters for the Northeast drug smuggles. So I've been there. It's awful. Really? I don't recommend it. Not a good town for us to go rent a hotel and walk around. I mean, what do you want? I told this before, but I went to a bar and they had TVs of a game on. There's no sound. There's no music. It was just people screaming at each other. Imagine a bar with no sound, except people yelling at each other. They all knew each other, and they're just yelling. I was like, can I get the Gator game on? We like those bars, actually. No, no. Nobody'screaming. I don't hate bars where people are screaming at each other. If they're talking loud, that's fine, but nobody'screaming. And I'm like, I don't have a knife on me, but I probably should. Someday I might get a knife. You'd have to get close before you could ever use it for a person anyway. I don't know what you're thinking of. Just for protection. Really? Just to show a weapon, right? Well, no, I mean, depends what you want to do. Like, for you probably want to have it as a last resort. So you can pull it out, flip it out, and just start stabbing that person in the sides. All right. What are they doing? Accosting you, yeah. Yeah. Well, anyways, back to the story. Enough about murder. He served 80, he was sentenced to 84 to 85 days, and he was credited with the 85 days he'd already served. What kind of fucking sentence is that? It's time served, right? Yeah. That's it. That's a judge going, good enough. Felony count of burglary. Oh, the state agreed to dismiss a felony count of burglary into an occupied dwelling with a deadly weapon. So he broke into a house with people in it with a gun. As well as misdemeanor counts of unlawful trespass, possession of stolen property, and giving false. See, this is why we're in trouble. And they dismiss all that? He got 85 days time served. Oh my gosh. This is why we're in trouble in this country. Yeah, what if he was actually punished? I'm just saying like you've broken someone's house With a with a gun that could kill them Yeah, cuz I mean prisoners not gonna change this guy, but it's just gonna keep him locked up for a while Lock him up. Yep There's no like there's no Hey, man Have you thought about like? studying humanities Have you have you have you learned about the Renaissance? Maybe that's gonna like change your ways. You need a level arts degree You're just a dirtbag. You're gonna be a dirtbag. Yeah, you went into a house with a gun and You are a piece of human garbage, right and we should lock you up, right? It should not be 85 days because 86 day Yeah, same thing same thing You haven't suddenly found a new group of friends to hang out with It's not like, yeah, it's never going to happen, but it just keeps them. And again, I go back to, we don't have enough jails in the state. I mean, we're shipping them to all sorts of different places. Yeah. Ship this dude to Tennessee. And this isn't even a rare, you know, this isn't even a state that has a lot of people. They send a prison, right? Yeah. They're letting everybody go. Just let them walk like, oh, you've been charged with this. Well, we'll check in with you. when we get around to your court date. That just shows you how little facilities we have in the state. And you know what? Word gets out, and obviously, they all know it. It's like, eh, don't worry about it. It's gonna be so easy. You won't see a day in court, right? Word gets around. No, it does. Moving on. New Jersey man, arrested for shouting. New Jersey! I wasn'the first one either so rested for a Shaftesbury shooting Was this in self-defense also or what? I feel like there's our, I feel like at any given Saturday night there's a Shaftesbury shooting We just don't get, we don't always get the report This sounds like maybe some drug deal gone bad maybe I don't know, it's just this guy Mohammed Hamdi was arrested by U.S. Marshals in the toe of Union, New Jersey. They meant to say town, of course. Union town. Yeah, Union. That's where my brother bought his first house. Oh, in the town of Union. Yeah, it's very close to Newark. It's a typo. Matt was reading it strictly. He's a textualist. It's a typo. I have dyslexia. I try to follow what the... It's a typo. Okay, police say Hamdi and another man were behind a shooting at a home on Twitchell Road in Shaftesbury, which is where pretty close to our friend's place. Oh, okay. Shaftesbury. Bennington. Down by Bennington. Okay, yeah. They say the pair entered the home, here we go again, and forced the occupants into the basement. While in the basement, Nicholas Baker and Joseph Macaulay were assaulted and Macaulay was shot. while attempting to flee, he was airlifted where he threw... So holy crap, they broke in and forced these people into the basement and held them at gunpoint. That's crazy. Can you imagine that? It sounds like in Cold Blood by Truman Capote. Well... That's the one book I did read. I read it too. I did read it too. Probably the only book all three of us read. That is probably a fact. That's it. Great book. Hard to put down. Also a great movie. Very good movie. Yep. You will lock your doors after that. Well, that's the whole point. People didn't. I know. We're talking about Vermont again. I never locked my doors in my whole sex. I've locked my doors everywhere because I've always been freaked out in the night. I've always been told if you don't lock your doors, then it's your fault you get robbed. I don't see. Okay. I'm of the opposite. No. Oh, I get it. I'm not saying I'm right. I know. I know. I know. But I know. I hear that all the time. Well, what did she want? She left her doors unlocked. Well, come on. All right. I don't care if your doors are unlocked. You still don't have the right to be busting into someone's car or house. You know what I mean? I don't give a shit. You got to get to the point of what's wrong with this picture if you think oh, well, it's her fault Nobody nobody that I know would think that I didn't mean like to transfer the fall I'm saying like it's I'm saying like what I grew up like if you don't like your doors, it's also your fault It's not you're not in the main cause but like also like fuck you for not Taking this small precaution, but not all the time You know people break into places that are locked We still do bad things. Oh yeah, actually my neighbor did it to my house. No kidding, it was locked, everything was in there, but he climbed up to the third floor somehow. So what do we think about the, what's the story of the Slate Ridge guy? No, this is a Hamdy guy, just moving on, Slate Ridge, he's in the wind, Matt, right? Yeah, he's on the lam. I hope this is the last time we ever talk about this guy, but I don'think it will be. Because we've talked about him ad nauseum. Also, I don'think he's in the lam. I think he'still here. I think he is, too. I think he's, the report is that he is, he's left the state and has no immediate plans to return. Which, if he does that, you know what, you're a giant pussy. You always were a pussy. Yep. and if he is still there, he's a giant problem. Yeah, there's gonna be a shootout or something. If they ever come together. It's gonna be like Waco. Yep. I hope not. Hopefully he's a big pussy, as we suspected, and he's just in some New Jersey compound, just. Oh, thanks. I'm sorry, some Connecticut compound. Or how about Florida? How about he's in some like Oklahoma compound someplace we don't have any connection with like Sounds good far enough away far enough away for No one to give a fuck last scumbag on the map here Vermont drug trafficking Kingpin. I always love it when they use that term sent us to 12 years in prison a A Detroit man, so this is unusual, somebody from Detroit. Murder City. I don't recall ever hearing about this story. Sentenced to 12 years in prison for what federalist, oh it's a federal story. Authorities say it was his role in leading a well-organized drug trafficking business that reached Burlington to Billings, Montana. That's a stretch. That's quite the pipeline. Yeah, it was Burlington, Bismarck, North Dakota, and Billings, Montana. He had locations. He'spreading misery and poison throughout our region. I like his name, Dewan? Is that what that is? Or Dejewan? I don't know. Dewan or Dejewan? Dejewan? It's probably Dewan, you're probably right. So he's ordered to pay $600,000, but he's gotta have more than that, right? Of course he does. You're doing drug trafficking from Burlington to Billings? I'd never figure that out well he's going to prison got a mat we'll see you know how it is it's like he serves eight months and hey that's enough You're right, that is the Sarah George way. Because we have the same, too many prisoners and not enough prisons, but that's not the solution. It never has been. But, eh. I agree. It's a revolving door. That's what we need. We need to. Mind control? What do you think? There was a book called Mind Control Oh, bye. And then it was changed. Adolf Hitler. I know. He was a bestseller. Something silver, but then he changed it. Anyway, it's impossible. I know. I mean, we're talking humans. There's no way of really coming up with a solution. But you didn't even hint at your solution, besides mind control. What do you mean? Uh, it's teaching you to, uh, look at things differently, obviously. I mean, that's the same thing as... what's that therapy? MAL? I don't know. I don't like anything to do with mind control. I think that's just a bad thing. Well, it's all mind control. Well, the title's been changed, obviously, because it didn't go over well. Mind control. No, actually, I'm going to soften it. That little focus group. Actually, what was... I'm going to call it, like, thinking positively. Okay, here's one. I couldn't remember now. One thing is to go to bed with a glass of water, like half full or something. I'm not sure. Anyway, next morning somehow something with the water. I'm about as vague as you can get right now, but that's all I can remember. I feel like I found the instruction booklet, but like only like half of the first page. It was in Croatian. It was in Chinese. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. That's fine. Listeners, it's a bit of a treasure hunt. You find out what she's talking about. Well, okay. You want me to do it? I'll do it right now. I don't know. She's going to do it right now. We'll see. Let'see. I don'think this is going to bear any fruit. I don't know what I'm talking about. If this necessarily becomes a reality, however, only the President will have the access to this button. This button is the most dangerous button in the world. You mean this button?[created using whisperjav 0.7]