Vermont Catch-up (Ketchup)

188: Junktown VT, Too Much Drumming in Milton, and Not Board Material

May 11, 2024
188: Junktown VT, Too Much Drumming in Milton, and Not Board Material
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Vermont Catch-up (Ketchup)
188: Junktown VT, Too Much Drumming in Milton, and Not Board Material
May 11, 2024

Let us know what you think - text the show!

On this week’s show:

  • Happy National “One Day Without Shoes” Day
  • Sanders, 82, cites Trump, nation’s problems in reelection bid (wcax.com)
  • Phil Scott appoints a dem
  • Roxbury junk ordinance
  • Whatchu know ‘bout Roxbury, VT?
  • Cannabis Company Could Lose License for Using Banned Pesticide 
  • Vermont opioid deaths decline for the first time since 2019,
  • Birdman Bike
  •  Lawmakers at odds over retail theft bill
  • Milton Inclusion Festival
  • Film about tragic Vermont farmer
  • Plainfield Co-op to Move to Plainfield Hardware 

(1:03:59) Break music: Raw Deff & Rico James - “Gung Ho

https://rawdeffandricojames.bandcamp.com/track/gung-ho 

 (2:04:28)  Break music: silence_Castor - “Elsewhere

https://silencecastor.bandcamp.com/track/elsewhere 

  • Scumbag Map 
  •  Suspicious deaths in South Hero
  • NH fugitive found in Warren
  •  Colchester man convicted for role in killing of drug rival
  • Windham strangler
  •  Sex assault in Barre
  • Burlington man busted in perv sting
  •  Saint Albans police blotter
  •  Attempted murder in Kirby, VT
  •  Lamb history made in VT
  •  Chinese dye dogs

Thanks for listening!

Follow us on Facebook: facebook.com/VermontCatchup

Follow Matt on twitter: @MatthewBorden4

Contact the show: 24theroadshow@gmail.com

IOutro Music by B-Complex

Show Notes Transcript

Let us know what you think - text the show!

On this week’s show:

  • Happy National “One Day Without Shoes” Day
  • Sanders, 82, cites Trump, nation’s problems in reelection bid (wcax.com)
  • Phil Scott appoints a dem
  • Roxbury junk ordinance
  • Whatchu know ‘bout Roxbury, VT?
  • Cannabis Company Could Lose License for Using Banned Pesticide 
  • Vermont opioid deaths decline for the first time since 2019,
  • Birdman Bike
  •  Lawmakers at odds over retail theft bill
  • Milton Inclusion Festival
  • Film about tragic Vermont farmer
  • Plainfield Co-op to Move to Plainfield Hardware 

(1:03:59) Break music: Raw Deff & Rico James - “Gung Ho

https://rawdeffandricojames.bandcamp.com/track/gung-ho 

 (2:04:28)  Break music: silence_Castor - “Elsewhere

https://silencecastor.bandcamp.com/track/elsewhere 

  • Scumbag Map 
  •  Suspicious deaths in South Hero
  • NH fugitive found in Warren
  •  Colchester man convicted for role in killing of drug rival
  • Windham strangler
  •  Sex assault in Barre
  • Burlington man busted in perv sting
  •  Saint Albans police blotter
  •  Attempted murder in Kirby, VT
  •  Lamb history made in VT
  •  Chinese dye dogs

Thanks for listening!

Follow us on Facebook: facebook.com/VermontCatchup

Follow Matt on twitter: @MatthewBorden4

Contact the show: 24theroadshow@gmail.com

IOutro Music by B-Complex

What's up, Vermont? On this week episode we cover Bernie possible next Senate run. The junkiest town in Vermont too much drumming coming and Milton white glow is not bored material but Adam might be and we're going to need a clock guy in St Albans scumbag map It's covered and smothered like a waffle house plate Kick back relax and put us in your ears Like VPR with Welcome to Vermont ketchup with Matt. I'm at glow Not Adam we are weekly rundown of everything happening all over the Green Mountain State Happy National one day without shoes day Every days should be here that shoes today Not me, mm-mm. Ufo's for life? Yeah... I have very tender skin still on my feet They never calloused So it was like having baby skin And i could feel every little tiny grain of sand and everything hurts What do you mean your feet never calloused Like never in your life they calloused What d'you mean They just stayed, if I ever got blisters instead of making that stronger. That part more calloused? Nah it just went back to being even worse More baby skin You didn't grow up without Florida asphalt like Matt and Yeah, like the sand spurs and roly-polys were baked into my foot like a layer of sediments. Walking through the field with sand spurs was doing that hot coal thing walk And if they were purple? They were the hardest ones I remember getting out at beach Of course they decided to put black asphalt on beach Because you don't want to wear shoes. You have to run and running on the yellow lines between the parking spaces because they're a little bit cooler than black asphalt Oh yeah, I remember walking across this street bare feet To go at beach It was like oh my god Yeah Fastest he'll ever walk If you walk... Your feet are on fire The faster i gather Yeah But agree with Matt Like every day should be no shoes day because if I'm not wearing shoes, there's also things. Not doing what else business? i am not getting in a fight Im No don't know nothing serious like everything serious requires shoos So like want to Like not do serious things. Yeah, I mean......I don't want to-...i hate wearing shoes You should cover it Hate buying them Which i think is one of the biggest things But uh yeah you know growing up on a beach we didn''t wear alot of shoes We had my go church shoos and school flip flops Got your church flip flops And your schooflip flops I had my sneakers, had my black high tops but yeah that was it. Shoes suck Do you all think you have pretty feet? Oh no That is...I think that are the worst part of me body Whoa! What a statement Yeah if does look pretty You know like Frodo My left foot as Frodo's foot Have ever seen Frodo Yeah, yeah. I've never actually... Now i'm gonna be like taking a little sneak peek next time we're hanging out Brother from another planet Remember his feet? That's what mine looked like All right Glove not the fan of your feet No Too wide Me also Not Frodo level But nothing to Couldn't start an OnlyFans page or anything Yeah, I don't...I hide my feet. You should! But you're a flip-flop guy? What an conundrum And UFOs UFOs UFOS Your big ufos fan Oh gosh yeah They really help me Flip flops are unbelievable Are they flip flops or slides They're flip-flops? They're proper. Yeah, with the tongue in the middle or whatever Cool Alright so Vermont stuff Bernie Doesn't know when to hang it up 82 and decides he's gonna run for Senate again And will probably win Probably He will You know next The governor Is the second most popular guy in this state Do you think Bernie is more popular than Phil Scott No Really Yeah Because Phil Scott has Democrats, even some progressives that like him. But Bernie has no Republicans that like him I bet there are some Republicans for Bernie We start every show with a recommendation to mute our devices So you think he'll run and win? Oh yeah, I wish he wouldn't. Is it just because there's nobody else? Becca Blint would have filled in but who else is there a pecking order Okay if Becca Blint ran for Senate you think she'd win But not against Bernie No no becuase she would have to primary him So that means she would run against whoever they got Yeah, whatever clown they get from the other side. Or some businessman... I don't know It's arrogance right? Bernie running No He probably looked around the room Who better than me Yeah i think so Arrogance is that not what you said there Because it IS arrogance Well Well, I don't know. Never mind Come on On our faucet in the bathroom Have you ever noticed? The thing popped off You had something there right Yeah Feel the burn That pin when he was running for president Anyway It was down in New Hampshire are helping out with some, never mind. But I still have that pin and it's now part of the faucet If Bernie was running for president would you actually vote for Bernie? No Okay i didn'think so You've never voted have you Not in a long time I think the reason, let me preface this that we wish he wasn't running. i just wish the senate would change you know it's an old white guy you know establishment and always has been You work your way up to chain or finally get be a senator How many senators lose re-election? and not a lot of them. No, because no one knows what they do! So you're like I don't know this guy's fine he has been in there literally this guy Yeah But going back to Becca Balint i wonder if she would win maybe she would but like idk anything about this woman still kinda dont actually bu Like She is all over TV She on national tv Which know it was dumb thing to say like, oh so good you win but like I think that's how it works now that if you have attention you're just gonna be the person that wins because people go Oh! i know of a name click yeah how many times did You see Peter Welch on those shows? Rarely. Who?! Yeah Peter who no!? Who is That?? Bernie Shadow Don't know what depends on whose running Who else is there? I mean, would Moreau throw his hat in the ring. Oh my God! Can we just ship him off somewhere like... And also Bernie will be 89 when this next term finishes and he seems pretty with it you know not every 82 year old is the same His brain'still pretty good Not like a lot of 80-year old senator runner for reelection There are too many Chuck Grassley an all these idiots Chuck Grassley, I mean come on. That dude's a loon But...I don't know man They think maybe they're afraid of what is coming up from behind What do you mean? You know after they leave who would take their place That kind of spirit that like Bernie Sanders stands for May not be the same anymore If Bernie decided not to run, he would probably have somebody in mind to back. If Bernie was doing his due diligence, six years ago when he decided to run he would be grooming... I don't know if it's the right word but in a pedophile way. He'd grooming someone so like take his place you know what i mean? Right You would hope But no No Guessy doesn' trust anyone Gues not and party of the person Mic drop. But ultimately, does it actually matter? Not to me I'm sure it means something to some people but What goes on down there It's like mind-boggling Never in Burlington The meetings and stuff This is the house seat right Oh, it's a house seat? I'm sorry. But your point stands What goes down there is scratch out Burlington It might be Do the progressives and democrats vote very differently very often where it comes down to one person There are some conservative democrats in this state that probably don't vote with them all the time They're all probably north of 60 That's the problem, everybody is so old. Moving on... Dick move Phil Scott but not the dickiest move Alright Roxbury which we all know where that is I sort of know where it Is It by Watesfield? Between Watesfield and Northfield So Roxbury the town A flutter about their new junk ordinance Apparently in Roxbury is just pile up junk in your yard. This article says, the residents have been fighting over a waste disposal ordinance for the last 30 years Oh my gosh Yeah The Clinton administration They're fighting over this junk ordinance More towns should have junked ordinances Well The problem with this junt ordinance it's ill-defined of course. There's two things, one you can report someone anonymously so we got a little bit of people are using this as like retribution and then it is very much like one man trash kind thing So the first person to do is Eric Sigsbee he did use his name in the story and he called it on his neighbors, and his neighbors say like they... What's the quote? I'm not really sure what specific things we're supposed to pick up or not pickup. Not really sure what is at stake here nor should be done of which shouldn't i don' t know So that a Vermonter That Say nothing Amen In a lot of words. Okay, everyone in your head is like imagine the kind of person with A buncha junk at their yard And now imagine you walk them outside and say Clean up the junk They're gonna say what junks? It's all important These old tires You might need those one day Right Yeah it almost forms an insanity But I think some cases does get that far but it is, it's disgusting. Some of the yards you see butt on man this junk Yeah I don't know kind of feel like that It lets you know about a person So just like all right kids Don' t go near tha house or whatever Like someone has got buncha junk in their yard You'd exactly what kind person they are and sort deal with them accordingly This ordinance gonna remain case by case So I pity the junk arbiter who has to go out and make some old lady throw away her stack of magazines or whatever. That brings us to what you know about Roxbury, Vermont Glo? Not much Population 3,112 Whoa! That would make it like I'd say 800 678 Really? See Yeah See It was that low That high now though Right now At Because people are drawn to Vermont And they're But they're not going to Still Chunk town They go other places No Roxbury It's a pretty big town. That was going there! Yeah, I guess it is pretty spread out A lot of big farms and stuff still out there It is the southernmost town in Washington County Bordered by Northfield to north Warren West Granville South Braintree Southeast Is that located for you? Not really but thats ok like mountainous area that's yeah I knew some people that lived out there and went up there in a winter couple times brutal really cold it is mostly rock yeah rock and forest says one of the states worst or they say most rugged which isn't nice way to say worst terrains Wow. That's why it is still only 836 or whatever, 678 sorry Yeah its peak population in 1860 had 1060 people Roxbury sent 94 men to fight in the civil war Oh my god 29 of them did not come back And then the population just dropped after the marble quarry closed. So this is like the classic mining town stripped bare nothing's left to see you later enjoy The junk in your yard kind of situation It was worth a drive through during fall though it was beautiful Yeah Every other house it lovely A couple of points of interest here, kind a sad. There's fish hatchery is that point an interest? I don't know If that is your point interest Can we go there and see something Why would you want to It' s...I don t know maybe My question like it not like sea world You can just like the fish right They are probably some controlled enclosed I think so, yeah. There also are some outdoor ones i think or they used to be oh it's not even open now It got damaged during Hurricane Irene and im wrong you said that drew up to 2800 visitors each summer 2800 fish hatchery enthusiasts next point of interest a cemetery That's usually number one for a lot of towns. That pretty much it There are hardly anything on the notable people Anyone catch your eye Matt? Ed Pincus, sounds familiar He is documentarian So he did some Black Match Yeah, he kind of did like day-in the life kind of stuff. Like let's go film people as they really are I'm sure it is interesting but you know It is not like big screen fair No And where this stuff would air But You know He made a living doing what we love So Made lot films Shout out to Ed Pincus Also name that your likely To not forget Well Yeah Yeah, I don't see anybody else. It's always a Zed Oh yeah they had some great names here Gideon Hickson? Zed Stanton Ed Pincus Getting wild over there with their names And that is all we know about Rocksberry Alright moving on Cannabis company could lose license for using banned pesticide So, Holland Cannabis. Is this a familiar name? Their products aren't around Chittenden County They are not Oh they grow it here and ship it out I don' think that's growing in here It thinks the Northeast Kingdom Ok God first the pizza now this They're having rough go with the Northeast Kingdom Don'' quote me on tha I don't know where they are, but their products were in stores in towns that's hardly ever heard of so That must have been a different story Anyways The second time they've been does it happen to this company. Yeah like you know like year essentially right? Yeah How many times can thing happen before we shut them down They might get shut down anyways the cannabis control board You know, you never know. They gotta keep control of these things It can happen to anybody once but twice within a year And they're using it as pesticides the whole thing right? I have couple questions How does anyone know... Does the Cannabis Control Board randomly test these things Good question Maybe do on-site inspections Yeah A surprise inspection The only way Knock knock Cannabis Control Board You, roll me a joint. I don't know Maybe somebody turned them in A rival growery huh? Perhaps Or neighbor Field agents conducting some routine product safety surveillance collected retail samples from the three Derby area dispensaries You know, we read the whole story sometimes and the answer is right there. But what's the fun in that? So federal agents just do randomly test a product Well they're not federal agents They are field agent I guess from cannabis control board Wow People out there with cars Binoculars Black suits Sunglasses? If you're gonna be a cop, you might as well Be weed cop right Oh yeah That'd fun I think they test it They smoke it and they're like Definitely some band pesticide in that one Yeah Well They might lose their license but who knows But doubted This will test to see if the cannabis control board Has any teeth Right Yeah. So we'll see, probably hear about it again Holland cannabis I'm sure we will are from one drug to the next Vermont opioid deaths declined for the first time since 2019 or if you want To be negative as an alternative headline that said Vermont opioid deaths still over 200 I saw the same thing. It's like, both are true Because i saw that one this one first and then And then the second one Okay it still can be true Yeah a good lesson in how headline writing actually contains biases So this is Digger story A little bit more on positive slant I would say, so 231. It's interesting how they say this 231 state residents have died from opioid related overdoses in the last year down from 244 So it is only 13 down Yeah You know it like And you are not there yet Like a 5% decrease So this doesn't include out of state Right Just like all these dudes from Springfield We don' t claim them That isnot ours So I'm curious what the actual number is of like, actual humans who perished due to opioid overdose in the state of Omar. That seems low 231? Well...I mean that's like over 4 a week In this whole state You ever look at obituaries No I'm not quite there yet. Yeah, but if you look at......I go to my old hometown newspaper in Peru and every once in a while say Oh! Carl That's Carl That guy was still alive If he died But what have noticed is the amount of people In their twenties thirties and forties In the obituary, you know it that's why I think this number is low Yeah. Also a wonder if like Like i had A friend who died in his 30s Lately Late 30S and Don'think he was like It wasn heroin but mm-hmm His cause of death Was sepsis so does that count as Again yeah We're not just Talking about overdose Here I guess, because they died many different ways. So yeah but also that's like how do you even start like becomes tricky right? Like we all knew why that guy died the whole hospital staff knew where that guy died bu did he get to be one of ones who was gonna write heroin You know it had To whatever is actually wanted That killed him cocaine saw the biggest increase involvement in opioid-related deaths. Cocaine? Making a comeback! Is it an opioid?! I don'think so... Not where come from, nope Well what is then if its not an opioids Stimulant So whats the difference Opioids tend to bring you down and make you feel numb Cocaine makes your asshole It sure does! Oh, okay. Now that I know... A lot of you have had a conversation with someone on cocaine but it's very annoying And then at some point in the evening they will switch to only talking about how they want to stop doing cocaine and then immediately followed by how we want get more cocaine Don't do cocaine kids That jumped up to 63% from 48%. I guess involvement in the deaths? So maybe it's like fentanyl mixed in with cocaine, Yeah. Yeah...I was wondering why the big increase In cocaine and lots more people were using But what they're cutting It with is the fentanyl Okay this drug a drug I've never even heard of. Gabapentin? Is that ringing the bell for anyone, no okay They don't have commercials for that on morning TV So gabapentin is anti-convulsant drug Abused for its euphoria producing effects That's nice like not only do you get convulsed but also euphoric Provided glimmer good news in the report So this is like the biggest reason it dropped, right? So went from what to what. We were from two... What was the high number 244-231 That's only a 13 death drop This drug is responsible for seven of them so over half Of them The people who died from that causes respiratory depression 31 Vermonters died in 2022 but only 24 last year Okay Just facts Matt I don't have any Yeah, I mean it is what it. It's a terrible situation and you know Is he getting better? Nobody knows There must come to point like where It has the decline because Basically all of them gonna die right There has be at point we're like okay There not enough new users maybe Maybe or maybe just steady stream Maybe I'm being optimistic. Yeah, you don't hear much of it... It'still around Like crack But back in the 90s The Oxycontin Assume it is less Donno Hope so Alright moving on to another bill Vermont lawmakers are at odds over a bill that would address the trend of retail theft. So Glo, did you know if I walk into your store and steal $900 worth of merchandise it's misdemeanor? And what happens if you spend just one dollar more than that Felony Does that make any sense Why 900 That is good question Who came up with this I don't know. You would think it would be like a thousand if you're gonna go for the round number, but that also seems... 900 seems very high But yeah That's lot of things That is like A couple TVs What store are we talking about? Don' t know what he is selling Clothing Okay Show me your high-end stuff Show us your suits Yeah, this is a... I don't know. Is it gonna do any good? So they're trying to change it so that if you do multiple times in the two-week period It's considered felony Oh gosh This says multiple doesn' say two If steal from UGLO and then come back 13 days later Do again felony 15 days later totally fine misdemeanor Wait a minute. So by spreading it out just those two days only, it changes everything? Yep Jeez Who wrote these up like Ben Franklin or something Ben Franklin wrote them and they'd make more sense and they would be funnier so let'see They're not aggregating crimes but increasing the criminal penalties for the first, second third and subsequent offenses. So they're trying not to bundle them like I just said but they're saying okay each time you do it the penalty will somehow get worse but they are no even sure if that's gonna pass It is a really bold stance To be like pro-criminal Like who is for tha? Yeah I don't know, they're just like throwing up their hands and stuff. It's not on here unless you put it on here but They are looking to build a new women prison in Vermont But the criticism is that it too big Too big? How many are they planning stuffing In this prison We'll get back next week Moving onto something positive The Milton Inclusion Festival When I think Milton, i think inclusion. It's an opportunity to try new foods and celebrate diversity So tomorrow Let´s go So Matt if asked you What do you thin a group called Sister Speak is all about? Oh well Women communicating with You know it'''a music group oh its the music group I say sister speak Is playing what Do What Think That Gonna Sound Like Who Gonna Be on Stage Aretha Franklin. Probably some Sisters Wrong! Sister Speak is led by Canadian singer and guitarist Sherry Ann It'said to deliver a performance that blends alternative folk, blues rock and world music influences Damn that is alot How do you do all of that? At this point just call it whatever you want Garbage. I think like when you mix all that stuff together, it becomes nothing right? Also on the schedule from 1230 to 115 Burlington Taiko which is Japanese drumming That's 45 minutes of drumming man Too much drumming Can i get a song in there A solo Don't pick up a guitar? Can someone sing us, can I get the lyrics. They had no one else to fill the space And then in the next 45 minutes same drum group is doing workshop They'll teach you how drum Then you wish they would continue on instead of listening that Yes and then we wrap-up evening or day performances with Blue Rock Boys a four-person band blending harmonies and instruments, you know like every music act. They'll play genres from old fiddle tunes to R&B Quite the lineup I know Am i going to hear like A Blue Rock Boys cover of Sade? Like what is this What's gonna happen And there was some food and Central African cuisine Maple Mountain Homestead Yoga Hanna Art Hair braiding Balloon making... It's a festival. I think it may be the right idea, but It is not drawing my attention So much drumming! For 5 minutes of drumming Man just stop and move on You have never sat through No no i've sat through 45 minutes of drumming, that's too much. Good luck Milton What is next? Oh Glo We skipped the Birdman bike Where is it There no story You just told me to put on Oh I'm sorry Your text meant was that you were going To get the story No You said you're going to talk about the Birdman bike. So I just put it on here so we can talk Well, okay nevermind So yeah Glove That one explains something Just because you see something in the world doesn't mean there's a news article We were driving down Shelburne Road going north Correct And just as were passing by this bicycle, all glittery and off you know Matt says to me that's where a bird man got killed. And somebody came up with this outrageous looking bicycle like he would have of course what he would have, would take up the whole sidewalk. But you know what I mean? So they kept it simple that's his mark everybody knew him on a bicycle pulling carts of junk It was Birdman Shrine Yeah It was pretty cool He really Was great guy to have around me People used Really get A kick out Of him You know And He got a kick out of people, too. Then he wanted to start charging $5 to take his photograph... Did people take him up on it? I don't know Sure they did Anyways It was cool see There's no story about it We just saw And its further south than when we read the story so. Well, he really covers some area because doesn't he live in the Old North End? Yeah All right moving on Okay I'm just fixing this link for number 11 here Are y'all familiar with this story of What is this guy's name Romaine Tenney Romaine as in lettuce Never heard Oh good This like your new hero Wait a minute Which one is this? Oh, film about tragic Vermont farmer. Yeah Okay hold on So they're making animated film about this guy I thought you would know the story glow seems like right up your alley So this i s Remain Tenny a Vermont farmer in 1960's so what was going on 1960 Well they were building interstates And And so the government comes this guy and says, we are going to... I think they said they're gonna pay for his land. What's that called? Fair market value or imminent domain Yeah It was that kind of situation where they were like Hey man guess what We want this road go right through here Right through your farm He got a big farm As farmer So he fought it and fought i But you know Guess what Never gonna win So as a final middle finger, he burns down his entire farm with himself inside. Really? Yeah With the farm animals too Um I don't know if he...farm animals died What tragic story Yeah yeah they did that to my uncle's fart yeah you know in that Northeast kingdom right went right through them and all of it Yeah, but I don't know if he got paid well for it. The story does not mention that he killed himself But there's another version that did mention is so hopefully So hopefully this dude went up in a blaze That is why his story has become lore Well the film coincides with tennies 60th anniversary of death That was sixty years ago It was animated, so you know something for the kids. All right moving on um Matt the Plainfield Co-op is moving to Plainfield Hardware yeah I put this on for Glow You know me i love to talk about plain field except that can never remember their name right because there's so many fields. So I never could remember it's playing field, regatta college used to be still is but closed door anyway yeah i know where that hardware store Is that the one that was like as soon as you're turning You can almost drive into this building I mean, it's like if you don't make that term and it is very old and ancient. It used to be a hardware store And so sad to see close So this has been good news because have photos of the one they are in now Remember Matt when we stopped there? He was looking little shabby This building could have had coat paint at least If not, you know what I mean? It's just it was on its run down type building. So yeah i hope so Mean Hope Works And is going to last there Is gonna go the way of Goddard Yeah There are not many Of those people left To be honest You know They were really The pioneers The people in Plainfield The real pioneers from the 1700s, oh no you meant hippies. A real pioneer spirit coming all the way from New York City in a VW van Well is this town going to keep some of its weirdness? Is it co-op help or it's just corporate coop how does thi work No, Plainfield Co-op is... The real deal. The real deal yeah! You have to be a member or I'm not sure what their rules are there's always different ones for people Or whatever you're not remember but you would have the pay more something Don't know So if i am in plainfield this probably my shopping option There's probably not a Hannaford down the street. You got it, which is great! I mean... It is It keeps Vermont from mind These quaint out of time places that you wonder Well anyway Just enjoy stuff like that I stopped at a Georgia, um......I don'think it was co-op. It was just like general store Have you all been to that one? That's like right off the exit Mhmm It is Like From the outside You are like okay And you walk in Its'like whoa Like They used this space very well and it as well Well lit and they have ton of stuff Donno But jus.. Which exit Um Whatever The George Exit Uh So Sssshhh One thats after Milton Between the islands and St. Albans? 16 drop shop in Milton, I think Well then it must be 17 Oh no it is 17 We'll have to check that out Now you're gonna go there and say wow thats a supermarket Im just saying its impressive for Georgia Yeah Well Georgia Is Georgia on the come up Its on come-up Really A lot of people live there who work in Burlington. It's true, it was only like 25 minutes on the interstate to get to Burnington but... I don't know if driving in the snow would be just god-awful for me because of its speedway and that section Do you remember? There was a snowy day two or three months ago And like in the morning, I had a co-worker who came in and said it took him an hour from St. Albans to Burlington just because the... It was so hard drive So slow An hour? He must have been going like 15 Gets pretty bad up there Yeah Because the wind starts blowing Yep Is maybe This is pretty I used to have to drive up the Georgia when i worked Up there, it was scary sometimes You know and people are speeding That's true yeah It just like Quebec Oh really? I don't know. It's a dangerous stretch of road at any time, but especially at rush hour or when it snows I'll never understand the people who decide that they still need to go 20 miles over the speed limit in the worst weather conditions. It's like pouring down rain, it could just be 60? Why do you have 80?! How does your life actually change... You get somewhere 5 minutes earlier maybe Is it than important for people waiting for ya Are you ready a break All right, we got some Vermont hip-hop. This is Raw Death and Rico James the song is Gung Ho I'm going to make a drum board and produce some. Tight knit over loose drums Don't do well in crowds but damn it, i can move one It'suicide for the mic When walk on stage Walk off And show you with noose hung Can stomach what say Here is few tums Can battle my wits Homie u too dumb Too many ums Get cool son When its done Everybody knows who won Check check Rhyme style got covered Rec rec Imma go catch another Everybody in the back to the front row, let's go Yo! Pumped up gung-ho Check check Rhyme style got it covered Wreck wreck I'ma'go catch another Everybody in the back To The Front Row Let'S Go YO Pumped Up GUNG HO Scooped out my grief and threw It In My Face A way that cope with If That Music Couldn't Trace That Beautiful Disgraced And if Don'T Feel Comfortable Here Pack MY Bags Choose a New Place Now LemMe Reset IT We Gotta Move Quickly So I can'think long enough to re-credit Give a fuck about street credit Always on my toes, i suppose Had feet fetish Theoretically molded To my subconscious Inherently born Be obnoxious Man cut that out Im one of bigger things Try and live the dream Acting out different scenes No past tense here This is right now Till im dead How you never put the mic down Slight sounds Of clouds just flow into it Got hot air balloon Promoting music Check Check, check rhyme style got it covered Wreck wreck I'ma go catch another Everybody in the back to the front row Let's go jump! Joe pumped up gung-ho Check check rhyme style gotta cover Wrack wracke imma'gonna catch another Everybody hit me backed To da front row Lez Go Jump Joe Pumped Up Gung Ho And we're bac Alright so were going Back 2 Burlington This college kids are moving out It is a time of year for them to leave their junk all over the lawns, which is nice. So Burlington and I think UVM it's trying to get ahead of it by telling people don't do that Which Is nice so this year Bill Ward Of Burlington Permitting Inspectors he hopes to make a difference by reaching out to the owners of properties that most often have trash left behind. So telling them like, hey normally your tenants throw junk in the yard let's not do that this time so hopefully That works and then also they are actively driving garbage trucks around those areas too see That stuff and see people moving it out Hey we'll take i And they'l either thrown away if its garbage or recycle or take it to people who might need it, if its good stuff. Glo you gonna be cruising these streets? Looking for a... I don't know what do you need A mini fridge Couch Coffee mug No..I already got many of those That's an interesting choice even cited property owner, Charlie Handy. Oh is he a good handy or bad handy? Is heating the city's warning to avoid to pay those fines because they're going find the owners and his company is paying two employees To drive around all their properties with truck each day at beginning of week collect unwanted items and then they separate trash from other shit Good for Handy we you know if He really doing that When I was leaving college, i didn't have anything to throw away. Like take it all with me You know like who are these kids that are just like Oh whatever Here's a table used for two years So just throwing away Yeah It is pretty bad Everythings disposable It Is Just walking around the campus you can see bunch of really good stuff And its just Dang y'all leaving this out here? Leave out here in the rain Like you don't even think to take it anywhere or call someone who might need. I just, it'so thoughtless selfish self wait Selfish Those are very different Yeah why do we have two words that are so similar sounding They mean completely opposite things It is like flammable and inflammable So yeah if your cruising around this weekend Might be able get some deals But then you're also like, I don't know if some leather couches and kids who knows what on. Oh God no! You don´t want any of that stuff Gotta hit tha with the black light Might bring home some bed mites Bed mites? Wait...bed bugs Big bugs, yeah. Yeah bed bugs What are bed bites? One level higher Alright Bitcoin ATM Has anyone ever seen these No Seen what Wait hold on A bitcoin ATM And Matt We're going to go out on a limb and say you are not involved in cryptocurrency i have no idea what it is Have To look that up every time It's like It is a thing that like I have very loose grasp of but like And other people who don't know crypto Like well, it's explained to me and then like they get like three sentences in on my you Don' even know either You'd better watch your mouth. These Bitcoin ATMs right there so here the problem they're not ATMs their bitcoin Kiosks So Vermont government in trying regulate them so that you cannot buy so much Bitcoin at one time. So, one problem is that it's really prone to fraud like I don't know if y'all ever tried and buy something on Facebook Marketplace and everything is going good then the person was like actually Im in Delaware It much easier If you just send me the money Send my first This a way of yeah Just put your just, you know buy some Bitcoin or whatever. So this is a big problem because people are getting scammed people don't even really know what they're doing because they are being called ATMs but it's not like you'r not putting money in the bank your buying an asset which could depreciate or increase very wildly depending on the markets. It's really Latin to me, I have no grasp of what this whole thing is Where are they? Are they downtown Check out that map You can see where they are There're a bunch in Chittenden County Yeah you can see they'r clustered around The chittenden metro area But yeah there all over And uh...the owners at these kiosks complain that if you put a limit on how much people can put in, then it doesn't even make sense for them to like operate. Of course Right Because the whole thing'scam I don' get this They just need bigger scam to keep in going You know turns into small scam Yeah with regulation Yeah but they say significant portion of their users are underbanked and low income individuals who want to transact primarily in cash. It makes no sense Does not make any sense And then this hearing, they're like people call them ATMs We don't call them ATMs and lawmakers are like look at your website You have a picture of it that says ATM on it Like what are you doing? So hopefully thi is just this sort Of quote unquote business getting exposed I mean if people want Bitcoin That's fine But there has got be more legit way To do the transaction Right Have you ever been to New Hampshire? I don't see the signs around here, but in New Hampshire there's Bitcoin signs accepted all over the place. Really?! Yeah! It kind of looks like if you made a bee into dollar sign and that is what it kinda looks like They showed one A picture on ther Of bitcoin as bee with two Uh-huh Clever Good job, Bitcoin market. Whatever you are and also this is a way to like buy things without any trace Yeah Like You know Like People Moving on Berry Oh did you read this Matt? Uh Berry Breakfast Gate Yeah I did Did you understand it No Okay Nope not at all I'll leave the link for this one in here, in case anyone wants to check the show notes and just kind of see what madness this is. It's almost like a play-by play of what happened at that meeting but it was very hard because person who wrote these assumes you're there But Barry Lawmakers are pissed off with each other because One person bought bunch breakfast for Teachers Of The Year or something? You know, out of their stipend or something? Yeah. Someone else'stipend... It is very confusing! But just rest assured the select board in Barry Is extremely pissed off at each other because of breakfast They are calling names One person was called a dictator A dictator because they changed Last year it was like bagels and coffee but then they changed it to a full breakfast spread. God, those dictators... They won't stop at anything! Just like Mussolini famously would do Make the spread bigger It's insane I want to be on select board for one year Oh sorry this is school board Sorry, select board. I want to be like on the school board just for one year and just like not Take it seriously at all is kind of like just experience the madness Just document if You make a documentary film yeah Cuz he was like this these things they draw them most insane people Right? Yeah Yeah, I agree. And it's usually people who don't even have kids that keep the schools to themselves you know what i mean? It is like bored people who are just like''I want to yell about something let us yell about breakfast'' Like...i couldn' t imagine being on anything You know any board Any office Anything That would drive me crazy Yeah Yeah, I never... How many times have i tried? Twice and no. I am not bored material No shit Spoiler alert You are like you would do this now because against the law but back in the day if there was a medieval council you would join the council and then slowly poison the other members of the council. And suddenly there's only one member, and now we have a queen! You justify it by saying at least I'm getting shit done Amirite? Yep Yeah Stay away from The Condo Board This person says This is a quote, I love this. This isn't about the breakfast This is about me The person feels they're being slighted Because people are mad at them because of who they are Not because the breakfast It's bigger than their breakfast And then you really want to join one these boards Yeah would you do it? You wouldn'y go straight right What did he mean He means Would kind mock I would have to create a character and do it in character, and just be like... Like one issue person or something. Really hell bent on getting rid of chicken nuggets or something? Or more chicken nuggets like some niche issue that's really absurd you just bring in all the time because once your're there they can't vote until the next cycle who cares right You just want stay there for one term anyway Just wanna get into paper This member keeps bringing up chicken nuggets Like, what's the deal? Then suddenly somebody wants you to run for a bigger office. Suddenly I'm succeeding Bernie on my chicken nugget cause! Dumber things have happened recently Oh are we going to talk about that next No i was just referring our current presidential situation Oh, I see. Yeah All right Going over down to Menden which is a place we all know It's down there Menden You spelled it wrong Okay now i get It spell you don't have the D No you do never mind You can look at it later. Okay, where is it? Alright here It Is See you spelled M E N O So you are missing the D I just put the d right in there Alright Wow That's live editing on The Old Show THE QUEEN Off with his head So, I think we probably talked about this guy Matt. Anil Sajdev? Probably...I'm not saying that first name right You think that's how you say it His name can't be Anal We thin they have a different A-NIL Should we just go with ANAL Let'go with anal Anal, okay. So anal is this guy who used to run the Cortina Inn in Rutland which is the worst place In Rutland That's where all the... that had a bunch of homeless people drugs crime etc Been on show many times Basically police just camp out across The street and wait You know they hear gunshot they go So this guy is trying to buy a former econo-lodge in Mendon. And the residents were like, uh! They were chanting no anal in Menden You read this one right? So the way it is like, this guy's like I promise you. i have no intention at this moment to turn this hotel into a voucher program and they're like oh that doesn't mean anything he says currently right now im not going to turn it into a voucher program. Anal didn't communicate very well That's like, snakey kind of guy Right And his lawyer is like look this isnt ever going to happen so what are we doing? We don' even need talk about i and the residents were like put in writing and they're all Like...we will pu titin writing that anal Is not going To do The voucher program At this time They keep Qualifying It So The resident Are all pissed off Because They read the papers, and they know about the court scene. He made a fortune off the state Yeah Scumbag Now he wants to double dip Could we move this To those scumbag map? I mean Well That part Kind of You know Fits The heading Right Uh...He is A scumbag But Has not committed Crime That We Know No. Yeah, see that's... Anal is totally legal in Vermont Yep Totally First of all it spelled A-N I L Not a n al Do you know how to pronounce it? Anil Alright so It seems like this guy Is not going get his permit Nope Yay They were very skeptical of his promise, you know. Good job standing up to Emil and his lawyer Menden Moving on Gleece are seeking an artist behind some vandalism in Northfield Matt? Well... I know this is terrible because I put this on because the bandle looks like a little, it was drawn by kid. This is not high quality graffiti? No Should we describe the image well one's a cat. Yeah, you know? Smoking the joint smoking A joint one's Ah pile of poo Um still giving off smell Yeah I like the uh The smell lines are nice touch Yeah Like that It lets You know it Fresh Right Because imagine those smell lines aren'there You're like what That leaf doing on Tthe ground Nope Its Apollo Poo Well plus its black Which is very important And and its also behind find a bug who's bending over. That right, yeah it was like the cow Is that the cow? I think it is the Cow It has an udder Those are udders those are like bee wings This looks lik ea weird ladybug bee creature Oh this one was COW Yeah Taking poo Alright COW taking poo Red-eyed cat with adobe and what I assume is a very poor attempt at the comic book character Deadpool. Okay, yeah again i see that Or Ninja Yeah No Okay okay so So not an art school grad here No no But it'still you know how do feel about Really? It says the police are having some fun with that they are searching for the public's assistance. For anyone, they say that if anyone knows who drew these artistic murals on the walls of Memorial Park located on King Street or you perhaps The Artist please contact The Police Department we would love to discuss arts You know how they gotta have their fun too right? Cops Well yeah I mean They got something do There is nothing can be doing about it You know, it's going to happen but I'll have fun with it. Clean It Off Glow what is your take on clock towers? Well like them you know again sort of back to the old days when we had clocks Time Yeah, exactly. How many banks? Oh even here on Cherry and St Paul that beautiful building that has a clock tower that used to be the bank Yep Longest time only recently has it closed as the bank. I have no idea what it is now, though." So apparently the clock tower in St Albans like to be more specific here they probably have more than one The first congressional church clock tower needs some help any masonry and plaster repairs fixes of The clock faces and parts And some repairs To towers connection with the roof. We're gonna find someone to fix clock tower parts, you know Angie's list and find that guy? There has got to be somebody because if there are only a few of these left I was going say like is this somebody 85 years old Yeah Some more And overalls with the paint cans But where it thiis person just somewhere in Vermont like put out I have no idea. There's got to be somebody that specializes in this, because it would be a one-person show! You know? One horse town or whatever it is... We lost our cobbler Can't believe we have clock tower repairman Chloe are you familiar with the clock tower in downtown St. Albans? Probably not Only you would know the answer to that We'll go with that I think it's up by the The square Square Yeah You're familiar Okay, yeah Yeah Recognize in the picture If was going take a shot at guessing That is where we put So apparently they suffered fire In past Church came together Collected $60 000 1891 Wow! That's a lot of money. 1891? This thing has been around, how old is this clock tower Hold on No I'm not going to give us that information 1894 They fixed it in 1891 Oh, that's right. I think work was complete in 1894 so check this out Check out this description Highlights of the... This is after they fixed it in 1891 or 94 whatever Highlight to the new and improved church included The finest In architectural styles THE FINEST As well as Tiffany windows And a great bell from New York Neely foundry They make best bells So maybe the repairman's left over. He is from the Neely foundry? Over the next 50 years, The Bell continued to play part in communal life for St Albans residents They allowed THE BELL and mechanism until mid 1900s To use as a citywide fire alarm I wonder when they made that decision Like stop doing that And we're fine Too much work We don't need to bother everyone if there's a fire. Like, everyone needs to hear about the fire? Well one time the whole town would get out there and fight The fires But I'm just like saying that That what i am saying There is an interesting cultural shift where they're like Actually it your problem now They are Like Fires your problem Dont bother us And tha was Tha waas What Mid 1900 Okay It makes sense Yeah mid 1900 I got my radio, my TV. Fuck off with your fire! Well i think the fire station would have something by then That's the way it used to work How much do you think they're hoping raise? 60 thousand in 1891 Okay, well with a bit of inflation I'd say about 6 million. They built the space shuttle? 600 thousand Only 250 That's it What a deal! Really? Yeah You're kidding I think in the 1891 they had to rebuild A lot of it But this is not that serious i think Man,I can't even find the US dollars worth from 1891 I'll go with 1913 See how much was worth then Does he say who's gonna do They are Looking for The publics help Of course It has gotta be Repairman out there somewhere Yeah The bell tower repair man. Okay, so I can't go as far back as 1891 but $60 000 in 1913 is worth 1 .9 million Oh okay So we'll call it 2 We'l call it even two Two million Right They raised two million dollars at St Albans town for a clock tower And its still there Yeah They did good job Yeah They got their money's worth That's for sure. That is kind of across the street from our favorite Chinese restaurant, isn't it? No the Chinese has already gone too far away from green If you want to know exactly This show is all about being exact Main Street construction impacting business You threw this on here I have not looked at it. Well, they're complaining that right in the... Some of the owners in the burn gallery you know they're feeling and Alibaba's kebab shop Oh not Alibaba There is a lot less traffic going through there now and its hurting their financial numbers Well avoided Yeah Even foot traffic Oh, well. You know it's loud probably or at least unsightly Once it is finished I mean... It will beautiful But we hope Are they gonna take down that house right across the street? The one than Andy owns We are really taking some strays on this show Probably not That was a big eyesore or feel like back in some glow? I mean, we don't usually admit to crimes on the show so this is a future crime. Have you considered taking the matter into your own hands and do what take about sledgehammer it and just start beating shit out of it You wanna get something done Nobody else has done So businesses are just complaining as they want to do. I mean, what are they going to say like it's awesome and that they're tearing up the sidewalks and streets outside my business but that is kind of baked into being a business owner right like yeah Yeah bu its roll over on dice And there no compensation given by city right? No, they can't do it. It's happened everywhere in this town the last 30 years......you know? Shelburne Road is a really bad example They've been taking forever and killing A lot of businesses or at least damaging them We got to watch the extension of Route 7 Shelburne Road that you are probably just taking for granted It's been around for a long time. Yeah, I just drive on that road and like''I bet this would have been here forever.'' Everything has always been like this ever since the Native Americans You know? Im an ingrate Glo Yep you'll never know driving on the road not knowing how it was built Like that. You didn't have a shovel out there with the asphalt, you piece of garbage I feel like this is like common ground here Couldn´they just be like You know what? Ali Kebab shop You can set up kiosk in the park Sell your sandwiches ther Or whatever it is There'some way to compromise Hey! This sucks for yo but here's maybe something you can do as a way to like, I don't know. Like there has got to be some outside of the box like kind not exactly legal way To get around this Yeah Toss him up on toss him bone Yeah Give me boner Put in an order for 100 sandwiches Oh yeah Like we're gonna There ya go That is the right Do it The next time that our next staff meeting Guess where are going Alibaba This place doesn' help the burn gallery. What is the burn gallery? It's a gallery, I guess... Umm..I think it is uh.... No idea what that means Is that weed dispensary Yeah! It'a smoke shop Hey you know what one less smoke shop cool probably yeah no one ever said like wow this really nice place to live they have so many smoke shops That never been said So maybe we have fewer of them and its good thing Better commerce I don't know. Well, we'll see what happens because they say they're going to be done this summer but... Oh yeah! Let's hope It better been That is what they said By Labor Day? Yeah Wow that is insane that it will take so long One of those things like when you do drive by and no one actually doing anything Yeah 10 guys looking at a hole That happens so often, like all the time. Right? What do you guys actually do There's always a group of guys just chatting A lot Of important people around that hall All right Matt new marker provides The window to the history Burlington Battery Park Is this dark history or positive History Probably a little bit of both. They now have what do they call these? A marker, this is at Battery Park The Champlain Glass Company established in 1827 was the first manufacturing enterprise in Burlington What year?? 1827 When was Burlington founded 17... 1700 but it's the first manufacturing enterprise What the hell were we doing before that, just farming and picking our boogers? Like what was going on. Cutting down trees But to do what To ship to Canada I think We didn't ever think that That could make something here with those trees No because there would At tha time a lot of The trees along Lake Champlain were like straight up You know kind It's kind of like you see right down here, if you just went straight here and there is a house that overlooks the lake. But it has big straight pine trees No they are beautiful At that time they were great for sailing mass Or whatever They were great for cutting down So they all disappeared So I'm sorry, cut you off in your dramatic reading of the book. It was a glass company? Right and they employed up to 100 workers both locals and skilled immigrants provided housing for workers an their families That's interesting phrase Locals & Skilled Immigrants that kind implies that the locals are not skilled right Exactly. I mean, the way it's written... Luigi and whatever from Italy coming in But uh It says he provided housing for his workers and their families Wonder if that was like real kind of thing Like a generosity or one of those where you owe me You know kinda thing Yeah, I think it's a bad idea that your employer is your landlord. But yeah if you're you know if you're Luigi coming off the boat and You don't have anywhere else to go could be good thing To start right? Right Yeah but It was like one step away from like indentured servitude Not so cool but And uh Was military base during the war of 1812 Yep Battery Park was Realize tha I think that's where the name comes from, Battery Park. Isn't it something to do with ammunition? Yeah it is! It has cannons and stuff You're looking at me like... Well anyway Was there any action out there in the war of 1812 No I don'think so. A lot of people died from disease probably, you know? More of 1812 man It's just kind Of forgotten Yeah What happened Who was it between The Brits They came back They came back for more And it was So short They only gave one year In the name War Or 1820 Its over That all You got Brit Go home All this time And to plan for this great war, you come back and that's all you got. I don't know... You know?...I read stories like this and you just wonder what the real story is on the housing Like what was life like in actual glass company Yeah Hey! They were working What year it wa s 1827. I'm going to guess, what? 12 hour days minimum miserable conditions breathing in glass so...I am guessing a lot of workers died horrible deaths at young age but you know Hey! But he's got the plaque You know everything i just said like the next thing they could have been doing might have been way worse, right? So I don't know. The thing they did before was probably worse Right You know mining or you Know whatever which Yeah Oh man Imagine working at any factory At that time Like i can imagine how people actually like we see this old photographs of like the end Of Like That industrial revolution Like, I'm not cut out for industrial revolution. That was before toilet paper too and that's the worst Well you just see those people and he is like you see like You're like God look at that old man He is 17 Yeah all the rizzled All soot in there The wrinkled faces And wrinkle hands Or they are 8 years olds smoking a cigarette I've seen pictures like that. Some of the great photographs are from that era, but it's just depressing It is some of the great...I don't know if this is a right way to phrase But they're some my favorite photograph because they're stark and people actually lived like them I've seen a lot of pictures from the mills of our Minuski, you know kids working over there At one time. Yeah as mills Yeah No compensation Half off on apparent gloves You get your art ripped off you go home, get a pack of smokes and couple jugs of whiskey. You're back two days later and they're like oh but was it your dominant arm? Cause gotta keep up productivity I'm glad i didn't live in that era or anything In the industrial age And then im trying to also imagine 150 years from now where people can you even Imagine if they sat and offices. They sat all day, and they typed? Gross! Oh yeah Amazing Moving on Alright moving on Did I put this one here or did you put this one here Matt Yeah i think that's what we di it Good because didn't read Well, it's just amazing that in 1994 a project started counting amphibians and reptiles in the state. It was started by Jim Andrews one of the first Vermont UVM grad students environmental studies and he was a middle school teacher, and he wanted to get back some of his research work. Yep And 30 years later they've amassed 123 thousand entries So I guess my question is like what is it? Is this like online thing are you familiar with thing It seemed like something you would do. I know, it would be interesting except for counting maybe more interested in just keeping keeping me post it with updates but yeah isn'that cool though? That people would actually enjoy doing this But again goes back to what is Isit like a crowdsourced research project Okay Again read and you will learn Over 7,000 volunteers contributing their observations of reptiles and amphibians using the Atlas website. The one small project has become a keystone for community scientists." Wow! It's really interesting... Right? Yeah I'm really intrigued by stuff like this Like Wikipedia Wikipedia is like crowdsourced. It's actually more accurate than Encyclopedia Britannica ever was, you know what I mean? Its amazing how we always talk about AI being this way to move us forward but i think it might be more appropriate uses of the internet where people come together and build knowledge seems like something we're just not doing enough of very cool yeah and there's other stuff like this too right like I think i know someone who uses this for like use like a birding kind thing. Like people who watch bird watching birds they can put... oh!I saw speckled heron over here Yeah remember few years ago We started seeing people looking at this tree back here in the next yard and it kept happening. Word got around that there was a certain kind of bird really seen in Vermont, was sitting up there and I saw him like he had hook beak or something yeah he's little weird looking bird were just looking at it you're coming down our driveway taking pictures Yeah word go out right? probably through this app somehow Yeah, you probably would have shot it. I don't have a gun But also just want all the birds to go away With the drums Go away with the drums 45 minutes of drum is too much It's just lot drums man Yeah, it is. I don't know like birds are fine Like i'll say that but like they're also really annoying and loud And creepy and unpredictable Crows and ravens pro Pretty much everything else Get out of here Not even the pretty birds? Like what a flamingo Well not here What am talking about here The cardinal They'r kinda flashy I mean, okay. Cardinals are impressive because there'so few of them right? We saw cardinals all the time we'd be like okay get out of here cardinals Actually some backyards around here do have cardinal Just lousy with cardinals No they have a lot Of Cardinos and it is all Because what they put in their bird feeders That seems manipulative Well Yeah flashy birds What about songbirds? I mean, you know there'songs. Do you like listening to some of them Sometimes it is nice early in the morning To hear birds talk or whatever Or...I don't know what they are doing That is.. Softening your stance a little bit Just generally They are so twitchy All over the place Right, I heard this is true but i'll say like it's in New York City. Can't remember if its falcons or hawks? Think its hawks and they are more successful hunting In the city than they are out on a wild because like sky scrapers provide perfect environment for them to score right down and pick up pigeon A pigeon? Wow! They're in control of pigeon control It may not be a bad thing. It'sad though Why is it sad, are you crying for pigeons Sophie choice Pigeons or falcons Okay I'm on the falcon side Well we did not try to twist your arm but like No i agree I mean pigeons for some reason multiply like crazy and they poop Crazy. Yeah, you know why i'm anti-pigeon? ive been pooped on by a pigeon oh...i can see that That was my own business Along came this pigeon yeah it was an italian pigeon Italian is thi in Italy No In texas but he's like What you got? Alright, yeah critters. Amphibians We're pro Probably Is there an amphibian I don't like Big lizards are reptiles so they're not amphibians Not like a big lizard It'scary Like when they just like kind of walk slowly towards you and you're like, whoa You're bigger than I thought you were So what's this guys plans with us is he was gonna keep it going. Yep What does she do? Is his little teacher Jim Andrewse a director observation at the Orion Society nonprofit based in Tiger Tigger Georgia Wow tiger Georgia focused on conserving critical habitat for rare reptiles he credits Andrews and based on a headline and couple of paragraphs. OK, that's it for the segment! Y'all ready for break? Yep Alright we got some kind of interesting lo-fi technoish music from Silence Castor The song is Elsewhere There's always a sweat in my head There is always A sweat on my soul There is Always You hold My attention I swear We're back Alright, it time for America favorite segment where we run down the worst people all over the state of Vermont. The Scallywags, The Ne'er-do Wells tHe ThUgS Matt THE SCUMBAGS Oh! Map All right So our scumbag map takes us to South Hero A rarely trodden ground for scumbags Two men found dead outside their home I think this was a family thing, they were related. What do you mean family thing? They killed each other or one killed the other and then he killed himself Oops One was 68 and the other 35 So yeah...I say that without any knowledge but that's what i figured in my head I saw another story, neighbors said that they'related. Yeah yeah One of them was a prominent farmer in town Wow Can't be that many prominent farmers in South Hero right? No Not many left So we'll get the full story eventually but so it's interesting that you said is murder because like then The story says That investigators don' know The cause Of death Okay But Maybe They are not saying Suspicious either no It did say suspicious They say it'suspicious, but they strongly believe the threat is neutralized. Oh that what I meant So they don'think there is someone on the run killing farmers It might have been a murder-suicide Might have been guns to each other heads We'll find out That just too tragic Whatever Can you imagine if you are like someone else living in this home and you come home, you're like oh my father and brother are dead in the lawn. Yeah pretty awful um got a good news scumbag story we caught fugitive from New Hampshire captured it Warren Zanda A Ball love the name Where does Zanda rank on the crystal spectrum? Every zander I ever met Holy crap, so this woman was on the run because she was wanted for Selling drugs to someone else and that person died And they found her How did they find her. Someone tipped him off Is there a photo of here I'm not getting it. Okay, so this woman and a companion were looking for jobs in the Mad River Valley So somehow someone found out that they were Fugitives yeah Always wonder how like always wonder how criminals get caught like Feel lik e if you wanted to just disappear you could just disappear Not as easy anymore but yeah sure Yeah, I'm sure there'still some woods out there that no one would want to pitch their tent and stay out there. It'd be more like...I wanna go here and live as a different person This person went to Warren? That is not bustling metropolis right Well Maybe Zanda Skis Does it have cocaine in it It's a ski resort, you know area or restaurant or whatever but it doesn't say. Yeah not totally clear what tipped them off but anyway they got her so good on you US Marshals Service doing their job We've go the Colchester man convicted for his role in deadly armed robbery of arrival drug dealer in Swanton we call this old two-for one Man, this is crazy. This is happening everywhere in the state Yeah it's crazy but also oddly not scary because you're like I'm not a drug dealer Like this guy didn't walk into mall and shoot 100 strangers This guy went and killed someone who was encroaching on his territory That' s nature of that business Right. So like, don't piss off drug dealers? That's kind of an obvious rule of life right now I'm not we live up on a hill too so We're not involved with that stuff You know think the next building over is Oh wait Yeah yeah I guess what we should be saying is that we should all the alarm that these violent people live in our community. Right, but because i'm not really this doesn't really make me feel unsafe right to you know and they got them right how do they find him oh they've already convicted him so this if anyone will go moving on a winsome strangler Oh man, he looks like a strangler. God almighty! I've seen this guy in movies This guy is accused of killing his 73 year old landlady Wow Where's Wyndham? Brattleboro Down near Brattleboro Wow Think it was one the first towns in Vermont So they're saying this is like largely circumstantial, there's a bunch of like video interview and paperwork. I don't know... Like you Matt? Just looking at this guy photo kind of think he did it Dont know that i'd be the person you want on your jury I think his face is more than circumstantial. That's a fact-based face! And the neck tattoo, and you know... You know maybe you get the neck tat when you go to prison and fall in love? No it could be It could never happen Could just sign of love Who am i?! To say that as wrong If man or any inmates want each other so help themselves it's fine yeah he if I was if working for central casting this story doesn't give the details of the crime but, this guy lived with this woman she wa s found strangled and took off to connecticut circumstantial maybe you knew something all right moving on a Burlington man sexually assaulted woman in Barrie So this is, we don't do a lot of sex assault because it's kind of like what are you going to say about it. But this guy interesting character him and his woman meet on an app Facebook dating which I didn' t even really know was the thing Is that still thing? Don'' look at us It just sickens me Seems like grossest way someone meets someone on facebook Yeah It seems like worse than Tinder or the other ones. Yeah, yeah... Wolf! Like I don't know like anyway so this guy meet they start driving around he's 27 her age is unreported So they started driving around little bit They went to Currier Park in Barrie I'm not sure if that's a nice place or not. Let' s walk by stream, or let go do heroin? Not sure what kind of park tha is The victim said this guy kept saying he wanted to have sex with her which is little direct We met an hour ago And don't want make fun either But keep saying it She says she kept refusing him He kept touching her, forced her clothes off. Says she didn't want to do anything and he assaulted here Condom broke And here's where you need avoid this kind of guy Gave the victim a loose pill from his pocket that claimed was plan B pill This guy is walking around with pocket full on Plan-B Said can afford have child Quit raping Yes, there's a way to not do that. The victim reported he tried to meet up with her again so she could take the pregnancy test So this guy is very concerned She did not want him met with him one more time He asked if she was pregnant They went McDonalds then tried finding motel They had consensual sex in back of vehicle They couldn't get a motel room? I guess not. This is the Netflix series! Yeah, met with her again and gave her Plan B pill again but she was hesitant because she wanted to have kids Are you kidding me?! But then this sex assault guy told his victim he did not want a relationship because he was seeing other women. Guys just too suave for his own good? I mean, this is gross all over but it's just like is thiis reminder that like this Is life For some people Right That amazing in very terrible way So hopefully these guys are going to jail and hopefully This woman finds something better Because if you're considering having kids with someone who raped you, then you should... You're probably hopeless. Everything in this story is soul-crushing Yeah it's dark It just has nothing in the story that has any illumination at all And its a very common story I think All right so let get darker So a man in Hartford, Vermont. Any takers on Hartford? It's down there by White River Junction Okay So he is facing charges of luring A child into sting operation This guy is 50 years old He was talking online with With cop posing as As 14 year old girl Again Central casting Guy looks like perv Yeah I mean if you put this guy suit he doesn't look not pervy so here's my question how do you get to be the person who impersonates the 14 year old girl? You gotta trained and like what if you're like really good at it is it like whoa Like, your too good Right right. It' slike I don know James your pretty good this Yeah Like its coming very naturally to you. Oh man, it's just yeah it has got to be awful Yeah but I'm glad that they have someone who is doing them and they are getting this guy They go this guy off the streets or whatever These guys get caught all of time Doing these stuff Well they gets caught all time But also probably a lot Of times don't gets caugh Or maybe like They are jus let out at same Time their in You know its almost like Nobody really wants To do anything about Well, it's like how many times this guy talked to a 14 year old girl and didn't get caught right? I mean Right. You know like being so brazen to do that and go whatever Like i'm assuming he went met up with her And that is the ol' Chris Jansen Like they knock on the door with six pack of Mike's Heart Lemonade If this guy you know Has He has Met any these I'm guessing so. He's not like, oh man the first time i've ever tried this and it struck out It was probably done before And just makes me think Constantly reminded of how much When l was a kid my parents had no idea whatl was doing when ll 14 wasn't doing anything like thi nothing crazy but they didn' know where I was, you know what i mean? And Glo... You were in prison too. Let's not even go down a darker path Well that was the same way because That was right after my father died My father died when l'm 12 so Whenl'I 14 Again ,i wasn't doing anything Wasn''t even smoking weed by then or anything But she didn '' t know My mother had other, she was working two jobs. Yeah I'm guessing this woman is in both of these stories their parents are probably either just completely negligent or just completely overwhelmed All right sad story all the way around Let's have some fun we got a St Albans police blog couple of interesting incidents Tuesday April 23rd 6 o'clock 4pm A woman reportedly tried to hit a man with her car on South Main Street. Try it with the car, that's pretty ballsy I kinda like Wednesday April 24th at 558pm Toilet paper was reportedly stolen from store on North Main Street Why would you stop somebody from stealing toilet paper? If you're stealing toilet paper then let them have i Let them have this Just call tha one Just let them have it, right? If that's all they're running out of the store with... See you later! Here have another. Charge into the game You need to come back and grab some soap We're cool with that too Thursday April 25th 849 AM I don't even know how they found this A man was reportedly being harassed on Facebook On Lampkin Street On Facebook, on Lampkin Street. Is there Facebook police down there? This dude's got his laptop out on Lampkin Street?! How do we know what was going with this one! He is crying... His kids fall in and cry Stop!! Oh Friday April 26th 8 52pm 3 monster energy drinks were reportedly stolen from a store on Lake Street. Man, somebody needed a fix! Have you ever had one of those? A monster energy drink God that's good question I've had Red Bull but i think like that stuff that genre of garbage drink is just... transitioning into adulthood as it was coming out so not really I've had Red Bull, like Red Bull and Vodka in Thailand was a pretty big deal. But i've never had anything like that Never heard of Monster Couldn'tell you what it tastes lik Yeah just saw them come with green cans or something Yeah but man...I mean.. Had alot Mountain Dew as kid so can really judge Well there's another harassment story down on Sunday April 28th at 1255 A man was probably being harassed o Bella Street What's this? I want to know the story. Why are you harassing a man, it is just after noon on Sunday leave the man alone they just let him walk down the street i missed them when people were reportedly arguing at stairwell one Lake Street good place argue yeah that everything vibrates That say uh... thats week in crime and St Albans moving onto The Northeast Kingdom A teen is charged with attempted murder. Kirby Vermont, a teen charged with attempted murder following an alleged assault Tuesday morning sexually assaulted and tried to kill someone known to him." So hopefully this dude is in the jail under The Jail for at least The next 20 years I doubt it Not if Sarah George has anything To say about Oh yeah He thinks he can be redeemed. Give this man a scholarship and another chance Yeah, this just sounds like... Kirby is kind of the wilderness It's way up there Yeah it outside of St Johnbury Up the hill little bit So my cousin used to live ther I don't know if she still does but There weren' many houses at that time You know it was jus People who wanna live you know, be able to shoot guns and... No I mean they were close together so it wasn't like a rifle range or anything but yeah this sounds like beef. Well sounds like dude who just lost his temper with his girl sexually assaulting her maybe not his girl but he'sexually assaulting someone i guess could have been the dude But I figure they would have mentioned that. Yeah, you would think they would Yeah They said someone known to him It was a man They probably said A man known To him Right That's more interesting All right Matt Last scumbag i did not read this Let just forget the Scumbags Forget thi One Who is going Delete This one off The map Reedsboro Man Yeah, I don't want to read another sexual assault. All right we got some positive news glow Yeah i see that Lamb history made in Vermont Dutch spotted lambs It's very interesting this story on channel 3 Take it away Matt Yeah, the guy says it's probably the first thing that originated in... Oh shoot. I'm sorry let me get this right Hate this They're illegal in the US until 2022 Yeah Sorry It was a good story That is okay But he starts out by saying its probably only thing that ever started out in this country and Glover was the fact that they've got these Dutch spotted sheep which were illegal in the US until 2022 because of mad cow disease. I don't know what that has, you know? Yeah he says''I'm not sure when something happened to Glover for the first time at a Western hemisphere but it's kind need to be part of something that's gonna be this historic. And he is, He just-he is like somebody you would think would live up in Glover You know? and his got a granddaughter His granddaughter helped him with the birthing this sheep an um But they're given it surrogate mothers The uh embryos Wait what Yeah They did They mother are not This kind sheep Okay Oh, so they're just using her as the egg to make contact with the sperm and all that stuff. It's what? That stuff All that stuff Never mind But hey they are very cute but The reason they are this guy wants To grow You know bring about they have a lot of good big traits that they're known for their hardy build strong maternal instincts grazing thoroughly and fattening quickly well yeah they're ideally suited four Vermont but theirs strength their maternal abilities, their landing ease. Their growth rate is another thing and their ability to thrive on grass of all things sheep breeders everywhere we're going to be interested in so this guy's gonna tell these things all over So maybe in a couple years Vermont can just covered with spotted Dutch... Sheep? Lambs Spotted lambs I guess it was positive story But then we think about the slaughterhouse, it becomes a negative story. all right? It's almost like I'm negative and positive in almost every story Right of course It is like Yin Yang Speaking to that i useddo eat there Let go China OK Chinese Look at this Chines zoo look what they're doing with these pandas Or are these panda Pand or arethes chow-chows died black and white. Chinese state media is falsifying panda videos by- That's a dog! Painting their dogs black and white an passing them off as pandas Love Chines government I can sum up the Chinese government And then like some portion of the Chinese people with a George Costanza line, it's not lie if you believe it. But this is an incredible video of painted dogs that the Chinese are claiming ar pandas in zoo Oh my gosh Hasn't anybody ever seen real panda? I can see I'm not going to... It's got an ad. But, uh Oh that awful No because they don't act anything like pandas Panda are Get all these animal videos for Gloria on Twitter and I keep them. And a lot of them have to do with pandas, and finally i've got new one in this caption is how does this species survive the wild? Because they're so stupid! Clumsy... Stupid Well they did it That's the whole thing right There are not many left But yeah that was awful I think it's funny. Are they poking fun? The Chinese government having a little uh... Brouhaha That is not broughaha That is little jab Little jib What are the Chinese, um Dogs ar still at the zoo Zoo officials told Chinese state media that they were chow-chows A fluffy dog breed originally from China painted black and they clearly advertise them as panda dogs. I don't like Chow's Yeah, i'm a like dogs but don' think ever had good experience with that breed chouchou yeah my friend mom had one he was ferocious you can get near Even her husband couldn't get near her. This is like in Mexico, didn´they used to paint donkeys black and white and call them zebras? No I never heard of that Hold on. I think that's true If i had to guess People fall for this shit Yeah, it is like you're like incredibly racist right trope zonkeys Okay yeah ZONKEYS in Tijuana Donkeys also known as burros Painted with fake zebra stripes so that tourists will pay the owner to appear and souvenir photos with them Yeah. It's not just the Chinese, it is all over Oh my gosh! This is nuts Tijuana? The China of Mexico Hey if you were a donkey or burro what would you want to be called If I was donkey A burrow...or an ass Something regal So..I'd wanna'be Sir Duke How about you Named after Stevie Wonder And I want that song playing when i enter the room Right, right Idk No.I thought you asked me because you had answer no...i..no idont have any answers ok Me neither alright IDK Why? Ok well anyway why'd u ask ME You're creative Are y'all ready to get out of here Yep Alright Peace Bye So it will tell, or will be known The situation we hope has suddenly become the reality However Only the President will have access to this button This button is the most dangerous button in Zivern You mean this buttom?[created using whisperjav 0.7]