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April 01, 2024 Hayden, Mitch, and Tom
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Apr 01, 2024
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Prepare to be whisked back to the exhilarating universe of "X2: X-Men United," as we, Tom and Mitch, guide you through the film's adrenaline-pumping sequences and behind-the-scenes secrets. Picture Nightcrawler's electrifying White House invasion as we break down the choreography and speculate on our favorite blue mutant's untapped potentials. We'll also reflect on the film's box office triumph while lamenting the mysterious absence of Beast and celebrating the expanded roles of Iceman, Pyro, and the formidable Jean Grey. Our trip down memory lane isn't just about heroic feats; it's a deep dive into the emotional currents that drive our beloved mutants.

Strap in as we dissect hair-raising moments like Wolverine's ferocious defense of Xavier's School, the strategizing behind Magneto's prison break, and the chilling consequences of Xavier's mind manipulation. Our conversation takes a turn into the world of covert ops with a side discussion on "The Unit," sharing laughs over on-screen tactics and personal anecdotes. We don't just stop at the action; we explore the complexities of the characters' relationships, Jean's ominous transformation, and Wolverine's evolving hairstyle—because let's face it, that hair deserves its own spotlight.

Brace yourselves for a glimpse into the future as we speculate on Sentinel tech and the high-stakes narrative of a new X-Men series. We'll entertain your imagination with tales of Cyclops' power surge and the heart-wrenching dilemmas faced by our X-Leaders. But that's not all; we round out the episode with a victory lap in Call of Duty's Warzone, celebrating those hard-fought wins and the camaraderie forged in virtual battle. We're eager to hear your voice in this mutant mayhem, so send us your thoughts, and join us for the next episode of "Entertain This," where the extraordinary is just a play button away.

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Prepare to be whisked back to the exhilarating universe of "X2: X-Men United," as we, Tom and Mitch, guide you through the film's adrenaline-pumping sequences and behind-the-scenes secrets. Picture Nightcrawler's electrifying White House invasion as we break down the choreography and speculate on our favorite blue mutant's untapped potentials. We'll also reflect on the film's box office triumph while lamenting the mysterious absence of Beast and celebrating the expanded roles of Iceman, Pyro, and the formidable Jean Grey. Our trip down memory lane isn't just about heroic feats; it's a deep dive into the emotional currents that drive our beloved mutants.

Strap in as we dissect hair-raising moments like Wolverine's ferocious defense of Xavier's School, the strategizing behind Magneto's prison break, and the chilling consequences of Xavier's mind manipulation. Our conversation takes a turn into the world of covert ops with a side discussion on "The Unit," sharing laughs over on-screen tactics and personal anecdotes. We don't just stop at the action; we explore the complexities of the characters' relationships, Jean's ominous transformation, and Wolverine's evolving hairstyle—because let's face it, that hair deserves its own spotlight.

Brace yourselves for a glimpse into the future as we speculate on Sentinel tech and the high-stakes narrative of a new X-Men series. We'll entertain your imagination with tales of Cyclops' power surge and the heart-wrenching dilemmas faced by our X-Leaders. But that's not all; we round out the episode with a victory lap in Call of Duty's Warzone, celebrating those hard-fought wins and the camaraderie forged in virtual battle. We're eager to hear your voice in this mutant mayhem, so send us your thoughts, and join us for the next episode of "Entertain This," where the extraordinary is just a play button away.

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Speaker 2:

you ever do that in a bathroom? No, like you're like you know you just like a public bathroom or something like that. It used to happen at school all the time when I was in like high school and college for some reason, it was that family guy bit, like it'd be like people. Multiple people would be in stalls and you hear something and you, somebody like else, would just go like louder, just like, just a little somebody else go, and it just became a thing like everybody's just going, like you could hear it in the hallway you can't say that I've ever done that, no I was just kind of like one of those weird moments in time where, like it's just kind of like everybody's just on the same frequency, like that thing from spaced where, where they do the slow finger gun thing at each other, it's like ooh, and they're like oh, snap.

Speaker 2:

I do remember that. Dudes will just do that for no reason. If it happens, okay.

Speaker 3:

Anyways. Sorry for that segue. Welcome to the Sound Effects Podcast.

Speaker 2:

We make noise. Hello, Welcome to Entertain this. It's a podcast about movies, TV shows and video games. My name is Tom. With me I have Mitch. And.

Speaker 3:

You.

Speaker 2:

You, the listener, thank you for joining us on another episode of Entertain, this where we're going to be diving into X2. Yes, I'm told.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, but before we get into the second X-Men movie, and probably better than the first one- yeah, I'd say it was better. Yeah, social media, mitch.

Speaker 3:

Well, you can go to entertainthispodcastcom, which will take you to our Facebook group and page. You also go to our Twitter, which is at thisentertained, and our Instagram, which is entertainedthis.

Speaker 2:

We also have our TikTok and our YouTube, which is entertainedthis, those things, those places. So before we start on the deep dive of X2, which is just called X2. It wasn't like X-Men, right.

Speaker 3:

X2, x-men United no Last Stand was the third one.

Speaker 2:

This is the Bryan Singer sequel to X-Men coming out in. When was this? 2003?

Speaker 3:

God has it been that long 2003, dang yeah that's what I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 2:

Has it been that long, sheesh? $110 million budget Made $407 million at the box office Pretty good, pretty good. $110 million budget Made $407 million at the box office Pretty good, pretty good Is Beast in this one. No, no, that's right. I always get that part confused.

Speaker 3:

He's in the next one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, him and Angel show up in the next one.

Speaker 3:

Although I did read some stuff where they were originally supposed to be in here.

Speaker 2:

But then they said there were so many mutants already that they just wrote them out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because Iceman gets more screen time. Pyro. You get Nightcrawler added.

Speaker 2:

Which was like. That was like the coolest sequence. So let's open up the movie Mitch. Okay, regale me what happens first. Where do we start in this tale?

Speaker 3:

Well, it starts off with like the you got the White House where you have, like, the secret service. There's a a field trip coming through the white house.

Speaker 2:

All of a sudden you see this one guy just like standing there and then you see like the tail yeah, it's obviously nightcrawler yeah, because, like you can see, like his face is like painted to where he looks normal, he looks like a person, but he's got glasses on, and then you have all sorts of pandemonium as he starts transporting. Yeah, that was such a cool sequence because nobody really did anything like that. He's just like popping up in the smoke. Dudes are getting knocked out. Everybody's just shooting randomly everywhere.

Speaker 3:

Well, because of his powers, they were like we got one bogey, no, we got there's five, there's five.

Speaker 2:

And the president's, just like hiding. There's all these secret service dudes and generals with guns, and then he just comes in Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and he goes to stab them.

Speaker 3:

Well, because he beats all the security guards up and then when they're all locked in a room in the Oval Office and everybody's kind of hunkered down and then the door opens and it's just full of smoke. You just kind of whiffed into stuff and then it goes into slow motion of him teleporting and just knocking out each one as he teleports past them. That was pretty cool it was really cool.

Speaker 3:

I remember watching out there like wow but then like, yeah, he like pins the the president to the desk. He's about to stab him and that's shot yeah, one of the other guys like shoots and grazes his arm and like wakes him up out of a trance and drops the knife and yeah, he's gone.

Speaker 2:

It was cool, it was really cool, it was very cool, didn't the knife have like a note on it?

Speaker 3:

It does. I want to say it was like Mutant Freedom. I forgot I should have paid more attention, but it was like Mutant Freedom or something like that.

Speaker 2:

And then you figure out like he was basically brainwashed to go do it by somebody else.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, by William Stryker yeah, but I mean he's a character that was made specifically for the movie.

Speaker 2:

I thought Stryker was a comic book character as well. He's a lot more different. Yeah, he's a lot different. He's like a reverend or something In this movie.

Speaker 3:

they combined several human bad guys into one. William Stryker is originally like a reverend. He wants to purge the world of mutants.

Speaker 2:

Is there an abomination?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, wants to purge the world of mutants Because they're an abomination. Yeah, but after this episode, I mean after this part it goes to the X-Men where they're on a field trip. You have Cyclops, gene and Storm basically taking the kids through like this museum. You have Gene she starts having like a migraine kind of thing. So all the TVs start flickering and lights start going off, but she's like hearing what's. It's your first experience that she's a little more than what she's been portrayed as before.

Speaker 2:

Her powers are probably greater than we had, at the time, been led to believe.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because she's like hearing what's going on at the White House, like through her telepathy, because it talks about, you can actually hear some of the phrases and stuff, like when they're calling out Nightcrawler at the saying, like there's a bogey in the White House, and stuff like that. But she also hears stuff in voices that haven't happened yet as well, like stuff involving Wolverine and things like that. But at the same time that they're dealing with the kids and stuff, you have Bobby Rogue and Pyro. I forget what was his name.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember his name.

Speaker 3:

I wrote it down somewhere.

Speaker 2:

I thought he was cool but I was like, yeah, he would shoot fire. And I was like, oh, he needs a lighter to do it.

Speaker 3:

Anyways, they're at the food court there and you have the two guys wanting a cigarette or wanting a light for the cigarette, and then one starts hitting on Rogue and then he snatches the lighter. I like how Pyro just kind of gives him a wink and basically the cigarette just explodes and ignites his arm.

Speaker 2:

That was pretty cool and it doesn't bobby have to use his powers and like put the guy out yeah, he uses his powers to put him out.

Speaker 3:

And then what? Like when he does that, everybody in the room freezes and rogues like what did you do? But xavier like rolls up because he's basically he's stopped everyone.

Speaker 3:

So they could escape, because the news about what happened at the white house is coming out pretty cool and he got dudes lighting people on fire and shooting snow yeah, out of their hands um, but then after that scene it goes back to, uh, the x mansion, where they're basically just like the the teachers are in a room discussing, like what happened to the white house, and you know the implications of what's going on. But it's a very short scene which then transitions over to striker and what you assume is senator kelly.

Speaker 3:

No, it's mystique yeah, but uh, they're meeting with the president and you know, realizing how close the mutant came to actually killing the president. So then he starts oh, striker starts telling him you know he's got a program, that you know, to study mutants and there's actually this school that it's a training facility, and he shows them like Pictures of the Xavier School. Yeah, like an X-ray picture, you can see the jet underneath the basketball court, or they got the picture of it like taking off out.

Speaker 2:

It's like, yeah, but they also have a jet that comes out of the basketball court and he just like shows the photo and they're like, ooh, like, what jet is it?

Speaker 3:

He goes we don't know, but that was pretty cool. And then you also find out in the same scene that he's the one that's been holding Magneto and. Mystique finds out as well. So she like questions him, like hey, you know what's the policy on like visitation, and then you also see Yuriko the first time.

Speaker 2:

Lady Deathstrike when she's sitting there cracking her knuckles? Yes, and it's like stupid loud. The people are just like looking at her like what is going on? It's like ew, let's see, but basically Striker gets permission to take his super secret.

Speaker 3:

Black Ops boys and just.

Speaker 2:

Trank Dart everybody at that school and kidnap them.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, that happens a little bit later. But the next part is Logan returns to the mansion and meets Rogue and Gene and all of them. Again, I forgot what. There's something else. I think that's it. But then after Logan returns, he goes on to Stryker meeting with Magneto in the prison and you find out that he's like holding him down.

Speaker 2:

Injecting him with like, something on, like the spot on the back of his neck.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's the mind control kind of drug to where he can find out more about Xavier's school, which was. It's kind of weird that like I guess, guess. Well, it wasn't actually a needle. I was excited.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how Magneto couldn't because it looks like he has like a burn yeah, it's like a little syringe like, but it doesn't have like the metal needle he just like it, just like drops, like a saline, yeah, solution but after Magneto learned that Striker had been holding, sorry, after Mystique learns that Stryker had been holding Magneto, the next scene she breaks into Stryker's office Remember, she's like walking through and she starts looking at the computers and stuff like that. And then Yuriko comes in and she transforms into, like the what is it? The janitor kind of guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But she also sees that he's actually building a cerebro of his own. But that's because he's been talking with Magneto, because it doesn't show it that much in the movies, but Magneto actually helped Charles build the cerebro originally.

Speaker 2:

And the reason he's building it. It gets explained a little later on what he's really going to do with it a little later on what he's really going to do with it.

Speaker 3:

Well then, the next scene you have uh storm and gene are off trying to find nightcrawler because xavier has tracked him using cerebro, which actually I think that's the scene that happens when logan returns he's talking with xavier about that and then xavier shows him the uh cerebro looking for nightcrawler. You see, like this jagged line because he's moving so fast, he's teleporting. But he also tells logan that he's like you know. You know your tolerance for smoking and are my tolerance for smoke. You're smoking in the mansion is one thing, but in here he tells me he's like I'll turn, turn, you know, make you think you're a little girl would you really do?

Speaker 2:

that I'd have gene braid your hair he's like, and then he puts it out in his hand. Yeah Cause, like he just like looks out, he takes out the cigar, like looks at. His hand just goes like he's like, and then you just watch it heal.

Speaker 3:

It's just like yeah, but it is kind of cool Like you see different, uh, mutants. Some of them pop up a little closer to where you can see them doing things or stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

This is when we get Colossus.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, which is really cool.

Speaker 2:

Who's a big dude?

Speaker 3:

I like him as a character. I like that he gets more to do in X-Men 3. Yeah, I thought it would have been pretty cool if he'd have stayed behind and helped Wolverine instead of taking the kids. But the next part is Storm and Jean find Nightcrawler and you can see kind of like Jean is changing because when she stops Nightcrawler as he's teleporting and stuff around, she kind of gets like a little flare of light in her eyes and stuff like that when she's using her power that she didn't have before.

Speaker 3:

The Phoenix Flame, yeah. But then they kind of stop Nightcrawler and as they're talking with him they kind of realize that he's got like the spot on the back of his neck so they know something was up with him, mm-hmm. And then Storm also sees like all this, like Mark stuff off his body because he's Nightcrawler's a very religious character, mm, mm-hmm. So he's they can tell that he's not bad, like he was just manipulated and made to do this, so they end up bringing him back.

Speaker 2:

Makes you wonder how the hell they even capture him.

Speaker 3:

I know that's a good thing to say, because I mean, if he could just teleport on a thought, just like somewhere else, I mean they would have to surprise him while he's sleeping or something like that. But even that, as soon as he wakes up it's just like yeah, that's crap, he's gone. Um, but yeah, while, while storm and gene are off, uh, with nightcrawler art, find a nightcrawler. Uh, xavier and cyclops go to meet with magneto and talk with him. Well, that's happening while they're meeting with magneto. At the same time, logan is the only one there with all the kids at school, and that's when they get attacked by a striker and his like entourage.

Speaker 3:

You had gobs of, you know just his minions, his buddies so many people which I remember in the uh the first movie, uh Xavier's, like God, help the person that comes to this school and really like none of the kids fought back other than Wolverine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean you had like. There's one scene where Kitty Pryde she's running through walls and one of the guys runs into the wall chasing her. That's about it.

Speaker 2:

Like, if they really wanted to, that could have been a bloodbath, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, because, like you know, Iceman doesn't do anything other than make the wall so that Wolverine can get away Colossus. There's nothing they could have done.

Speaker 2:

No, because they go to shoot at him as he's transforming. It's just ricocheting off of him. It's like just send him. Yeah, everybody, just get behind him.

Speaker 3:

Congo on your way out, because going in they have no idea what mutants are there, what powers they have. They're just going in with these little dart guns. So yeah, if they wanted to fight back, the mutants could have easily won that. Yeah, and doing some research and stuff, I saw that originally they had like a storyboard. When they were writing this out they wanted to use Sentinels, but to save money on CGI and stuff they decided just to use soldiers.

Speaker 2:

Just extras. They could pay 50 bucks Like, hey, put this crap on, yeah, and do X, y, z.

Speaker 3:

It would have been cool to see them fighting Sentinels, all the kids and stuff. But anyways, yeah, logan, he kills several guards and then, as the kids get away, colossus takes the kids, they escape, and then Wolverine was going to kind of stay back and fight. Well, he meets Striker for the first time and then that's when Rogue, iceman and Pyro kind of come back to help him and Iceman makes the wall of ice separates the two of them and then they escape.

Speaker 2:

Doesn't Stryker call him Wolverine?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like he knew him. Yeah, because Stryker's the one that originally did all the stuff to him, but Logan doesn't remember it, right?

Speaker 3:

He remembers the voice, like after he sees him. He remembers the voice and he starts getting some memories.

Speaker 2:

But then when they put up the wall, he, you know, they're like standing, like touching the ice, and they're like Wolverine's like ah yeah, I want to kill him.

Speaker 3:

The next part is you have Mystique like oh, the guard, yeah, she's Rebecca Romaine. Yeah, she looks like herself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And she's basically seducing and then manipulating the guard.

Speaker 2:

And she gets him drunk and blacks out in the bathroom.

Speaker 3:

And she whips him around like a rag doll, she flips him over and injects him in the butt yeah, but she treated him like he was a kid and just flipped him over. It's like man Man-handle how you doing. But yeah, like I wonder, like, do you think that would kill you, like that much metal, like liquid metal, put into your body?

Speaker 2:

because I mean that's a lot of iron yeah, that was a big thing of sure. Maybe it would, maybe it's just or maybe like over time and they knew like he would just be back at work the next day. Yeah, that's exactly yeah, if he probably feeling kind of yeah and yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I like how when he walks up to the machine like it fritzes for a second like oh yeah, he's got metal on him, and then it just goes and he walks on in.

Speaker 2:

It's like, no, he's good, and then he comes in and then Iron in your blood. And he's like get down. He goes no, and then he holds up his hand. The guy's like that.

Speaker 3:

that that, but it was pretty cool. He's like pulling particles out of him and you see like the blood mixed with it as he's pulling it out Like the mist.

Speaker 2:

It's like yeah.

Speaker 3:

That was pretty cool and the fact that Magneto did basically three ball bearings and he could escape.

Speaker 2:

Just get he could have escaped this prison, that's all he needed. There's got to have been just metal there that he could have did something with.

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean because he can manipulate stuff from a good distance.

Speaker 2:

There had to have been some sort of repressor.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean there's a whole building. So, yeah, they had to have something. It could have been closer, but you know, here's what it is.

Speaker 2:

It's a movie, but I like how, like, basically, he flattens one out as a disc to stand on and the other two are basically just bullets and he's like launching them through the glass and just blowing it to pieces while he's smiling. And like the guards are just getting lit up and it's like man. Magneto. You don't mess with Magneto.

Speaker 3:

Well then, at the same time, striker has introduced himself to Xavier, and then he also shows him his son.

Speaker 2:

Jason, which to?

Speaker 3:

Xavier, and then he also shows him his son, Jason, which Jason's not an actual character in the comics, but he's.

Speaker 2:

I thought he was a.

Speaker 3:

He's not a character. He's based on another character called Mastermind, which basically he creates illusions and kind of messes with your mind and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Isn't it like Jason, like he can mind reality people?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean he can create illusions in people's minds and stuff Like he drove his mother to kill herself, and then Shryker was able to figure out how to stop him. Yeah, but like.

Speaker 2:

And he's also. The serum that he uses was synthesized from Jason.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, all the stuff that he drops on the people's necks. But yeah, like he's actually supposed to be like Mastermind or Mesmero or something like that.

Speaker 2:

But basically at this point Jason answers to Stryker.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, which I don't understand why.

Speaker 2:

I think it's something he's controlled Because he's hooked up to all kinds of Well, yeah, because they're getting the juice out of his neck that makes the stuff Also.

Speaker 3:

at the same time as all that's happening, logan Rogue, iceman and Pyro go to Iceman's house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to his parents' house, and they're like what the hell are you doing here? Because they didn't know he was a mutant, did they?

Speaker 3:

No, they didn't, which I kind of liked. How, when they walked in Logan's standing there, it was like just that's the only one I see he's standing there with a beer in the kitchen and they're like, uh, dad, but uh, yeah, iceman shows them like you know, he has these special powers and stuff like that, and they're like freak. They kind of equates to like somebody coming out like yeah, I'm gay, you know, kind of thing. Yeah. Where they're like well, you're a mutant, though. How does that work? Kind of thing so.

Speaker 2:

Because his brother's like mad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, his brother gets mad, that he's a mutant, which doesn't make sense, I mean yeah.

Speaker 2:

He's still his brother. Yeah, he's still his brother.

Speaker 3:

But if my brother told me he had some kind of special power, I'd be like dude. What can we do with it? Let's have some fun.

Speaker 2:

It's like you kind of got to grab the brother and be like your brother is no mega class mutant.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, eventually in the comics he has the power to freeze the earth if he needed to, If he felt so inclined. But yeah, they have that. And then when his brother calls the police, they like confront him and Logan walks out.

Speaker 2:

He's got, he puts his claws out and they're like drop him, he goes, I can't. And then they shoot him in the face. Yeah you know.

Speaker 3:

Then when he pulls his claws back in, they shoot him in the head, knock him out and then cause everyone's like oh my god, and Because everyone's like oh my God, and all of us are just like no, he's fine. That's when everybody else gets down and you just watch the book go and like fall.

Speaker 2:

Then you see the heel of these. Well, while that's happening and Pyro's just shooting fire at the cars, the stuff's exploding.

Speaker 3:

Everybody gets down he's talking about. You know you can kind of see why Pyro becomes a bad guy, because you know he's the worst Of all those mutants you see on the TV. I'm the worst one which.

Speaker 2:

I mean, he was trying to like up his street cred. Yeah, he was. Well, you're like dude, no one knew who you were.

Speaker 3:

They did, though. After that though, because, like I mean, Like yeah you could shoot fire, but if I had to choose between your powers and the human torch, I'm going to be the human torch yeah except for he turns into a flame.

Speaker 2:

Like he doesn't need a lighter. He can generate it, which I don't think he can. Does a pirate ever be able to?

Speaker 3:

No, even in the comics.

Speaker 2:

He has some sort of wrist apparatus or something like Spider-Man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, where he just presses the button and it creates the spark that he needs to start the fire with his hand. He's always had to have some kind of thing with it. Let's see the next part, uh, where it has, like jason trying to uh manipulate xavier's mind like you see, him doing illusions, like, I think, one where like he's a little kid and he's trying to get xavier to lead him to cerebro and yeah, it's like a little girl or something but they're really sitting in the striker cerebro that he's built basically, the gist of it is they want to use jason to control xavier, for him to use striker cerebro that he's built.

Speaker 2:

Basically, the gist of it is they want to use Jason to control Xavier. For him to use striker cerebro to telepathically kill every mutant on the planet.

Speaker 3:

Right, which I mean he's got the power to do it with cerebro.

Speaker 2:

And it would have worked too, if it wasn't for those pesky mutant kids.

Speaker 3:

And their dog Wolverine too, rescue mutant kids and their dog Wolverine too. But this kind of plays out in the movie Logan, where Charles. Except for.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's when he becomes so old and he starts having seizures.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they really amplify his power, though, for him to be able to do that, because he starts having seizures.

Speaker 2:

But I thought in the old man Logan, like they mind-controlled Wolverine and basically did like the illusion that they were being attacked and it turns out he killed all the X-Men.

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was the comic version of what had happened.

Speaker 3:

I haven't seen the comic version or I haven't read the comic version of Old man, but I know in this like something happens with Xavier. He's like got the power to manipulate all these people with his mind from like huge distances, which he normally doesn't. Without Cerebro in the comics and stuff like that. Like I mean, he's powerful, but not to that extent. Then it goes to the next shot where the X-Men, because of Pyro's antics, as they're flying their jet. It goes to the next shot where the X-Men, because of Pyro's antics as they're flying their jet, the other two, like our F-16s, come flying up or F-22, whatever they are, two jets come flying up and they decide to shoot down the Blackbird, which I don't understand. How that jet with all those mutants on board?

Speaker 2:

got shot down and all their cool technology With Storm controlling the weather Doesn't have like I don't know. It has a cloaking device. It does.

Speaker 3:

But like even Storm.

Speaker 2:

You probably still pop up on radar.

Speaker 3:

I think it was Wolverine asking if the jet had any weapons. He goes and then Storm's like we are the weapon and then she starts manipulating the weather.

Speaker 2:

And her eyes do the white thing and everyone's like yeah.

Speaker 3:

But it's like, how did she not, how did they still get shot down? But anyways, as they're falling, magneto catches them, because they realize that, instead of falling, they're actually being directed to a certain direction. As they're falling, and it's Magneto. Yeah, he stops them from hitting the ground and everything, with Mystique standing there. And then that's when they have their little camp where they're camping out discussing what we should do here, what we should do next.

Speaker 2:

And you know what Jean reads Nightcrawler's mind to find out that there's the secret base under the lake that Wolverine was at earlier.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

In the beginning of the movie.

Speaker 3:

And then also you have the part where Jean and Wolverine kind of have like the little romantic moment where they kiss. She's a hussy and she's like I can't do this and walks away. And then, after they've talked with Nightcrawler and all them, they have the scene where Logan's in the tent and Jean comes in and it's mystique. He's like filling up her chest or waist or whatever and fills the claw marks and he immediately notices and then Mystique kind of like kind of cool, kind of creepily, changes into Storm and then Rogue and then as he pushes her away and tells her to get out, she transforms into Striker, saying like I know what you really want.

Speaker 2:

At that moment it's kind of creepy, yeah, yeah, I mean I would have been mad if it was, you know, halle Berry, true, true. I mean I'm okay with this now.

Speaker 3:

I can play through this, but basically he pushes her out and then the next scene it's them on the Blackbird discussing how they're going to infiltrate which Wolverine's like. I'll go in because he won't kill me, because the only entrance is this long corridor that they can just flood with water whenever they need to.

Speaker 2:

Doesn't Mystique turn into Logan?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she turns into Wolverine and goes down there. That way she can get past the first door. And then, when Stryker walks in, he goes I know my creations, that's not it Because she smiles at him. And then, yeah, as soon as he says to kill it, she transforms back and beats up all the guards and makes her way to the control room, which, stupidly enough, there's no way in that control room and there's two feet thick doors on it. So she goes in there and lets all the other X-Men in Nice. Let's see. The next part is after Mystique breaks in to the base. She lets everybody in, but because she broke in and she took over the control room, striker runs to Jason and Xavier while he's in. Lets everybody in, but because she broke in and she took over the control room, uh, striker like runs to jason and cerebro, uh, uh, xavier.

Speaker 3:

And then, while he's in cerebro, it's like here, tell him kill them all, kill all of you or kill all the mutants. And uh, while that's happening, while he's like on his way there, the x-men infiltrate the base. They start beating up guards and splitting up and, uh, I think they can't remember if they see scott on a camera or if they see him, like, walk past a hallway. So gene takes off and, like the two of them fight inside the damn like hydro electric generator area which he ends up destroying because he shoots lasers out of his eyes yeah, it blasts several of it away before.

Speaker 3:

I think he like shoots something and blows up and like knocks him down, which wakes him up from his stuff.

Speaker 2:

And they're like oh no, the dam's going to destroy the base we got to get out of here. Run away.

Speaker 3:

Well, what's the name? Stryker's on his way to find Jason Wolverine, runs into him, and that's when he introduced him to Yuriko. Yeah, and like the adamantium-smelting room?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the adamantium smelting room where it's liquid adamantium which he uses to kill her.

Speaker 3:

According to what he says, once adamantium's been melted you can't unmelt it Once it's melted, if it hardens that's it.

Speaker 2:

You can't re-smelt it.

Speaker 3:

Right, so they've got it continuously bubbling in that little pit thing. Smelt it right, so like they've got it like continuously bubbling in that little pit thing. But yeah, that's where, uh, wolverine and yuriko start to have their fight, where lady death strike, because she's got claws, but like they're, it's like her fingernails yeah, they.

Speaker 3:

Hers are a little different, like where wolverines are like knives with like blades on them. Hers are almost pretty much like needles, the way they they're designed and stuff. Researching into this, I found a part where they said the girl that plays Yuriko, she actually had to grow out her fingernails like an extra inch so that they could attach the prosthetics for the long ones to where they would actually stay on.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't do it. I bite my nails.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how you With an inch long nail that's like a natural inch long nail I don't know how you'd do anything.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I keep mine to that length, Like you know.

Speaker 3:

To an inch long.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I hate yeah no To whatever that is Like, maybe even a quarter dragging on something I hate that Like on a paper towel oh God, it's torture.

Speaker 3:

What kills me is if you break a part of your fingernail and it gets caught on everything that grinds.

Speaker 2:

You know what really grinds my gears? Fingernails catching on stuff.

Speaker 3:

But anyways, as the Wolverine is fighting Yuriko, you kind of realize that she has the healing factor stuff too, because he scratches her across the face, she like traps him on that part where she's like hanging down below him and stabbing him in the back.

Speaker 2:

And he's just like ah, it's like this is inconvenient now.

Speaker 3:

But Striker gets to Cerebro and convinces Jason to start, you know having him kill everybody. Yeah, xavier kill everyone. And all the mutants basically like fall to their knees and stuff and they're, they're having problems. Um, except wolverine, he's just getting stabbed, yeah. And then I want to say like gene kind of like stops them from uh like storm and the rest of them from being affected, like in an immediate vicinity um so that storm and nightcrawler who's afraid to teleport through can get through, because he has to know what's going to be there.

Speaker 3:

Oh wait, no, no wait, that's not yet. First Magneto arrives and finds Jason like manipulating Xavier, yeah, and he kind of puts his hand on his shoulder. You can see like Jason's eyes look at him like uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

Uh-oh, SpaghettiOs.

Speaker 3:

But that's when Magneto like floats into the air and starts rearranging all the plates and stuff. And then he has basically switched to where Xavier starts attacking all the humans and as they're falling down, that's when Gene and Nightcrawler and Storm and all that meet outside the doors because Magneto has the doors sealed to where nobody can get into. And that's when Nightcrawler's terrified but he has to teleport through, like past the door.

Speaker 3:

He's afraid he's going to be like in the wall, but that's where they go in there and Storm starts doing like the electric or not the electric, the like freeze in the room, basically Because Nightcrawler thinks it's just a little girl, because Jason's manipulating their minds at the same time she's like that's not a little girl. Nightcrawler's like, wait what. He steps back a little bit like huh.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? Who is this? Who are you?

Speaker 3:

Answer my questions After this. You have like I think it goes to Striker, where he's like I think it goes to Striker, where he's like sitting down at the base of like one of the planes and he's, like you know, catatonic with a kind of seizure thing going on.

Speaker 3:

And Magneto runs into him and wraps him up with a chain and starts choking him out. Basically he's like, yeah, we seem to keep running into each other. It's not going to happen again, so he kills him there. It's not going to happen again, so he kills him there. Then you have the X-Men. They start rescuing the kids.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't kill Striker.

Speaker 3:

Wolverine doesn't no.

Speaker 2:

Magneto does, though no, I thought Striker gets killed when the dam explodes.

Speaker 3:

Oh well, yeah, I guess you're right.

Speaker 2:

Because he's just chained up Like having to watch.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Magneto, just tight like tightens them.

Speaker 2:

Like you, stay right there, sir.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you're right, when the water comes through.

Speaker 3:

I saw the movie but, yeah, wolverine and the kids and stuff, they all start to escape. They realize that Pyro's not on the plane because he goes and joins Mystique and Magneto as they leave in a helicopter. And then at the last moment, like as they're getting onto the plane, that's when the dam starts to break and all the water starts rushing down. Well, gene's like, you know, I've got this, which before this time. You're like no, you don't. What do you have? What are you going to do?

Speaker 2:

Like you could barely lift Wolverine like up at the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 3:

But then when she goes down, she's holding back basically the entire dam of water, and that's when she starts. You see, like the flames.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's like coming like on fire or something, because it's the Phoenix.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then the plane. You know, it's just enough to allow the Blackbird jet to take off and get out, but then she gets overwhelmed by the water.

Speaker 2:

And presumed dead. Yeah, and Logan and Cyclops are both visibly upset.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because they both wanted to boink.

Speaker 3:

And then in the next scene is where Xavier and the X-Men show up at the White House Like the presidents have like a press conference or whatever. All of a sudden everything starts getting dark and there's a storm outside. As the lightning flashes, you see all the X-Men are standing there. I thought that was pretty cool, because they're not there.

Speaker 2:

And then all of a sudden, the lightning flashes and they're just all there and Xavier's like cut the crap Pretty much Because like you know we're on your side. Like stop it.

Speaker 3:

Well because I want to say, like you see Cyclops standing there and you see like a tear come down from under his visor and then you have a nightcrawler. That's like sitting on the fireplace edge. The president sees him and he kind of like waves at him and he's like, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

I forgot. I tried to.

Speaker 3:

That was, to me, one of the cool scenes. Well, when the damn thing explodes.

Speaker 2:

You see the Phoenix fly out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, that's later. Oh, it's later. Yeah, it's in, like the next scene here, okay, but as they're doing that though it is kind of cool, Like Xavier's like hey, stop coming after us, we're on your side, but we will defend ourselves. Basically, yeah, you're lucky.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't at the school? Yeah, because I'd have made all of them think that they were, you know, puppies.

Speaker 3:

But then then it goes on to the next scene where you have the X-Men like mourning Jean at the at the X mansion, and then it kind of pans like as they're I think it's I can't remember if it's Jean or Charles that's talking at the end, like kind of in a monologue, and then it kind of pans over and you see, like the whole lake and everything and it doesn't come out of the water, but you can see like, as they're panning across the water, like going it's almost like a drone going across the water.

Speaker 3:

You can see like the outline of the bird underneath the water as it's moving, which is really cool, because if you're not paying attention you won't notice it. It looks like the water, but that was really cool, yeah. End of movie. That's it, this one.

Speaker 2:

I really liked the first X-Men movie. I thought that was a fun movie.

Speaker 2:

It was totally different. A different take on superheroes. It was a little bit edgier, a little darker this one. A different take on superheroes, it was a little bit edgier, a little darker, this one. I mean, yeah, people are getting killed, wolverine's stabbing the snot out of people and just like, ah, you know, knife hands underneath the rib cage All the vital organs. And then I thought, plot-wise it was a good plot. Yeah, as far as like, how are you, what's your MacGuffin? Like, how are you going to kill people? Like how are you going to do world domination or evil or something, and it's like, oh, a super-powered mutant. Oh well, he's just going to mind-control a super-powered mutant and have their own machine do bad stuff.

Speaker 3:

Which is so hypocritical because Stryker's like yeah, we hate mutants, We've got to get rid of them. Yet he's manipulating them all to do what he needs done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like his entourage, like number two lady mutant. His main objective goal use mutants. His son mutant.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean to accomplish anything he needed, he had to have a mutant to do it. But he's like oh yeah, we've got to get rid of them.

Speaker 2:

And then that version of Stryker just becomes a reoccurring character in the X-Men movies.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like they show a younger version of him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or a totally different version.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because Brian Cox just did it for the one movie and then I can't remember the guy's name. But who plays him in X-Men Origins?

Speaker 3:

Wolverine. I know everybody would know the actor if you saw him, but I can't remember his name.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, yeah, you see him, and he always plays like a douche.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's always some kind of jerk character. He's in Wonder Woman.

Speaker 2:

He's in Yellowstone.

Speaker 3:

The bad guy yeah, he's the bad guy in the first season of Yellowstone.

Speaker 2:

He's the bad guy in that movie. He's just got the face Like you're not going to be a good guy, You're going to be a bad guy forever. You're a typecast, sir.

Speaker 3:

Doing more research into it, like I mentioned some other stuff earlier, but I found out that, as the movie was going on, there wasn't a whole lot for Halle Berry to do in this movie, but they actually added scenes to it and more lines for it because while they were making this movie she won an Oscar for her role in Monster's Ball. So they're like, oh well, if she's an Oscar winning actress.

Speaker 3:

I guess we gotta give her a little more. So they did that After the movie was over. They actually had. The production of X-Men was over. Hugh Jackman was offered the role of the Punisher, but he turned it down to do Van Helsing. You know what?

Speaker 2:

Van Helsing is a great movie too. Van Helsing is a fantastic movie. That's one of the best vampire werewolf films ever.

Speaker 3:

It's a lot of fun, that movie is just nonstop fun.

Speaker 2:

Um, that's, that's the definition of a good watching movie. Yeah, you're never bored. You've seen it a hundred times, but you're, You're never bored. You've seen it a hundred times, but it's like that in the hunt for Red October. You can just sit there and watch and just be totally content in your life.

Speaker 3:

I found out also that the mansion that they use it's the same mansion they use for Smallville as Lex Luthor's mansion, for Arrow as Oliver Queen's mansion.

Speaker 2:

You know, I thought some of that looked a little familiar.

Speaker 3:

Also, it's the same mansion that Billy Madison uses.

Speaker 2:

Is that you, Mr Penguin?

Speaker 3:

Maybe that was his superpower all along to play dumb he can play dumb more than the average man. He brought that penguin to life. I found out, like I mentioned, the original plans was to have the Sentinels at the school attack.

Speaker 2:

I mean the Sentinels don't show up until the third one. But that's like a training.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, in the danger room, kind of thing. Another thing that if you're an X-Men fan you know this but others might not. In the comics, nightcrawler's mom is Mystique. Yeah, that's his mom. That's where he gets the blue coloring. Because that's his mom. That's where he gets like the blue coloring, because his dad is Azazel from the first X-Men, first Class, the red one. So basically he got like his dad's features and then his mom's coloring.

Speaker 2:

You know His dad's powers, right, yeah, azazel could tell.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Azazel had the same thing he has, like the little tail and all that, so he's.

Speaker 2:

Dude looks straight out of hell. Yeah, straight out of conflict, straight out of hell.

Speaker 3:

But essentially, I mean, they don't say it in here, they kind of allude to it. They have like a small scene where Nightcrawler's talking with Mystique. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, mostly they don't really acknowledge it a whole lot. But yeah, in the comics he's supposed to be the child of the and like. Here they show like the Phoenix starting to grow and in the next movie they show like and last stand is yeah, she shows that she's strong. But I still don't take it to the levels that the comics do, where in the comics the Phoenix is like a cosmic level threat, like it's going to destroy the galaxy, kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Not New York, yeah, or Alcatraz, or something.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that and like. And one thing they've kind of revealed in the comics is, even when you get rid of the Phoenix, because it's a Phoenix, it comes back later. And so with the X-Men stories there's been several times where it goes away and then it comes back and it's like a new person takes on the powers of the Phoenix. Because there's one where I think it was X-Men versus Avengers, where Cyclops, emma Frost, colossus, magic and Namor split the Phoenix and like each one of them has a fifth of the power and because I think it's Iron man shoots it with some kind of special beam to stop the Phoenix and it breaks apart.

Speaker 3:

And the five of them all have a little bit of power apiece which is enough to remake the phoenix and it breaks apart. The five of them all have a little bit of power of peace which is enough to remake the world between them, and then, eventually, as they it's like the infinity gauntlet well the avengers come up with, because they slowly kind of get corrupted.

Speaker 3:

So the avengers end up defeating them to where cyclops is the last one. But every time you defeat one, that power just goes to the others that still have it so they just keep keep getting bulked up until you get to the last one.

Speaker 2:

It's like you're just fighting the whole thing at this point. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Cyclops had the whole power and he accidentally kills Xavier. And then that's when he kind of like chills out, he's like, all right, you win, I'll stop because he feels bad for you know, accidentally killing Xavier yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I mean, in these movies you find out that Charles knew what was wrong with Jean, or not wrong with Jean, but what was there? And he created all these mental blocks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, in the next movie you'll find that out.

Speaker 2:

To stop her or to stop the Phoenix from taking over Jean?

Speaker 3:

So she's always been stronger than what she realized. But that's all I got for the X-Men movie. I mean it's got like a 7.4 on IMDb. I say that's fair.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a very fair score.

Speaker 3:

There's some of the actors that probably could have done a little better. Is this the?

Speaker 2:

one where Hugh Jackman I'm trying to remember the Wolverine hair is just obnoxious.

Speaker 3:

That's towards the end. And I found out why Because at the end, yeah, his hair looks almost like an afro with points.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because he was actually filming Van Helsing at the time.

Speaker 2:

So he had longer hair?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he had long hair and they needed him to come back, so they had to put a Wolverine wig over his other hair so that made it even bigger.

Speaker 2:

It looked like yeah, because, like I said, wolverine's hair in the trilogy. It was like oof, like we are really leaning into. You're just walking around looking like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Got the mutton chops and everything yeah.

Speaker 2:

He probably looked best in Wolverine. Yeah, where he's in. Japan.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Because he's still got the little flare kind of thing Like the fins or something. But they're not nowhere near as pronounced. I mean, you can tell they're there, but it doesn't look.

Speaker 2:

Not like X3. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't have it in X-Men Origins.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't think about that now that you mentioned it. And then in Logan he doesn't have it. No, have it, no. So, but uh, that's all I really had for this, for the, you know, for the x-men.

Speaker 2:

Um is there anything else that you've watched recently. I didn't watch. Uh, I'm watching a show called the unit. Okay, I'm, I've. I'd seen it when it was happening. My brother really liked the show and he would never give me like because he had all this the. There was like three seasons that were out and the fourth one was on tv, but he wouldn wouldn't give me the DVDs so I could watch it like ever and I'm like I don't know why he was just so dead set against it. But let me pull up the because it's based on a book, tv series drama. Four seasons came out in 2006,. 69 episodes Features Dennis Haysbert, as you all know, is the Allstate guy with an obnoxiously deep manly voice. Scott Foley, who you recognize from Scrubs. Max Martini, who you recognize from a lot. There's Audrey Marie Anderson, you recognize from Arrow.

Speaker 3:

She worked for. Argus.

Speaker 2:

And I think she's oh, what's his face? John Diggle's wife. Yeah, in the show this is based oh, this was created by David Mamet. It was on CBS, based on the book Inside Delta Force by Eric L Haney. Basically, the premise of the show is you have, there's five of them that are the alpha team of Delta, who their cover is? They work at a logistical studies group a part of the Army, but they're the tier one of tier one and, like season two, like they redo the intro a little bit where it's like you know, in like 1979, congress passed whatever that a select team of you know. Like they redo the intro a little bit where it's like you know, in like 1979, congress passed whatever that a select team of you know operators like who answered only to the President of the United States, like they had his phone number.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Like he's a confidant of the President, of two Presidents, and like there's times, like you know the CIA or the FBI, it's just like you know what's your authority. He's like call this number. And they call us like this is the White House Secretary to the President of the United States. How may I help you? Like no one has that phone number, like the Joint Chiefs might have it, and they're just like and they just flip the phone back down and hand it to him.

Speaker 3:

They're just like special forces kind of stuff. Yeah, okay, but they're, like you know, the ultimate of black ops. Okay, now are they? Do they work for the government? Or are they kind of like a?

Speaker 2:

okay, they're active duty army okay what do you mean? I don't know how much. I mean there's a because it's true like a lot not the content of the show as far as like the missions and stuff that you see them do in the show, but a lot of it is like what their cover is and I mean, obviously it's probably totally different, but the amount of secrecy that's around it so so it's based on an actual unit, but not actual events.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, based on delta force, okay, and they're like the number one of number one. They're just those, those dudes like you don't know who they are.

Speaker 2:

And like when the first episode um Bob Brown, who's the new operator of Scott Foley's character, he gets transferred to the unit he passed selection, his wife you know, oh, we've been in the army, you know we're going to live off base, and like the other wives are like you don't live off base here. And so Guam is like you're not in the Army, you're in the unit, like this is different, like they are sworn, like into.

Speaker 3:

It does show like their personal life having to mix with the and then you know Max Martini's wife.

Speaker 2:

She's cheating on him with the T-1000. I think Robert Patrick's his name. He plays their commanding officer, who was like he was delta and then, like you know, got promoted out. And then there's like a lot of side characters that occur, like there's one guy who was like the original team leader but he got crippled and he comes back and through in a couple of episodes like they're training stuff, like secrets, and it's like, oh, you guys are gonna go to russia for a drug deal or for like a nuclear arms thing, and like they get.

Speaker 2:

Like if you get, like there's one they defer, they're there for an assassination. They're like they literally like the assassination gets called off and as he's trying to call him he can't get through. So he's running up to the hotel room and just as he cracks off the shot and kills the dude and they're like all right, let's play like 16. And he literally points at each guy in the room and goes land, sea, air. That's how they have to escape to avoid all of them being caught together. So one of them's got to take a boat.

Speaker 2:

One of them flies one has to take a car and they're stealing stuff. They get arrested. He kicks out the back window of a cop car and runs. It's crazy, they're like 45-minute episodes.

Speaker 3:

When did the show originally come out?

Speaker 2:

2006 is when it started. Which? I mean it had good ratings but CBS canceled it because it was like, you know, 55 and up was watching this and it's like, yeah, I mean the production of the show. They do a lot with very little. You know what I mean. Like the weapons look good. You know the uniform. I mean, obviously these dudes are, you know, they're picking stuff up as they go yeah.

Speaker 2:

Not like weapons or stuff, like you know, except sometimes, but like the clothes, like they're very nondescript-looking guys, yeah, which I guess is all. Yeah, they're very nondescript looking guys, which I guess is all.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're not wearing uniforms everywhere.

Speaker 2:

No, they're not. And even when they do, like they got like different stuff on, like they don't have patches or anything, like there's no name tags, like you don't get to know their real names. Okay, they all have you know code names that they use going around, Like the Main guy, dennis Haysbert, his character. He's Snake Doctor, max Martini's Dirt Diver, bob Brown's Cool Breeze Like Hammerhead, like that's their whole. They all got really cool nicknames, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so how many seasons was it?

Speaker 2:

Four, four, they had planned the fifth season, which would have been the final season, but the show got canceled. They already had the fifth season written. What station already had the fifth season written? What uh, what like uh station was it on? It was on cbs, cbs, which I mean I don't know what uh like time slot they were in. If it was like like a prime time kind of slot, it doesn't say which kind of, which is kind of sad, because it's just a good show and it's like I mean they won nominated for primetime Emmys.

Speaker 3:

Well, because I mean, even now shows like that are popular, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

If this show came out now, this show would be huge.

Speaker 3:

Well, because I've watched it and talked about it on here before, especially with what streaming is now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, special Ops, lioness. Whatever that nonsense was with Chris Pratt.

Speaker 3:

The Terminal List. The Terminal List, yeah, I mean Reacher, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this show would have dominated today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they just needed a different time and a little bit bigger budget.

Speaker 2:

There's one episode one of the guys, hector. He's seeing this girl he's going to propose. He meets the family Dad's ex-military and he's like, oh, what do you do? He's like I'm a clerk Because that's their cover. That's like that's their thing. And he's like, oh, he's like you're not a fighting man. He goes, I go where the army needs me. He's like I got a guy. It's like you know he's doing this. It's like I need him. I want him transferred to my OU, I want him sent to like the 82nd Airborne and he's like cool. He's like give me his name. He's there and he tells him the guy's name and he just takes the what and he goes. He's too important where he is. That's like he's a clerk and he goes. He just stares at him. The guy goes that kind of clerk.

Speaker 3:

He should have been like yeah he's a.

Speaker 2:

He. He figures out like the dude's delta force, like he's. He's a g. Yeah, like that dude's balls swing like a lunch pail he's working where he needs to be he's right where he's supposed to be doing some cool stuff and then like they go back, it's kind of like a sad episode for him because like he goes back to the family and the dad like totally 180s, where he's, like you know, sharing, like you know, high-class scotch, he's all about it.

Speaker 2:

And the girl's just like you know, like what do I tell her? And then the wives are like look, you get married. We'll tell her, like what she needs to know, because that's what they had to do with the other one. And like you don't tell anyone, you don't call anybody, you don't say anything about anything. Your husband does. He has the most boring job ever. He's a clerk, that's it. Where is he? He's at work. It's like that's it, like that's the bottom line. You, you will never know anything.

Speaker 2:

And then there's like one like the couple ones, like they get sent on like a vacation, but it's really a mission. Like there's one like he takes the wife and like he's like going through, like getting close to a guy, and like they meet a couple. They're like a resort and he's there to kill him. And like his wife kind of figures out like we're on a mission. She's like pissed and she's gonna leave and he's just like this is national security, the dude's selling secrets to the Chinese. Come on, I need you to help me. Sometimes it makes me mad because the wives are kind of getting a pissing contest with the husbands. Do you realize what his job really, really is Look, woman, we're in Cabo.

Speaker 3:

Just go to the pool. I'll be there in a minute.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't ask me about the gun in the suitcase or the fake passports and fake currency or the fact that I got blood on me Like shush, like what part of like some stuff just needs to get done and I'm that dude Like you should just be, just smile.

Speaker 3:

That reminds me. I forgot the name of it, but there's some Mark Wahlberg movie that just came out within the last year or so. That's like that. Like his family doesn't know what he does. They think he's like an insurance adjuster or something, and then like they start going on and these people start coming after him and he's like oh hey kind of like that it's on Hulu.

Speaker 2:

You can watch all four seasons. Okay, I recommend it. It's fun, it's a good watching show.

Speaker 3:

Without revealing, like what happens. Does it have like a definite ending or does it lead off because it was going to have a season five?

Speaker 2:

It has like an ending, but it's not what would have been like a definitive kind of to-do. So like a definitive kind of to do so.

Speaker 3:

they leave like a couple of questions that could have been answered.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just like it's a season end, but it's not like a finale you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anything else about it. There's probably the show that hooked my brother into going to the military.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Back in 2006?.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, well, I well, I mean he was, he won not in the movie predator, that's really that's what that's what got him. He wanted to go to the jungle and fight predator with a minigun. Yeah, he had a toy one we both did. It was really cool. It's a giant silver minigun with, like you know, it had the barrels, whatever, had like the orange lights, but it was like you could put caps in it and it would fire as it cycled.

Speaker 2:

And it would spin. It was spun fast, it had the whole trigger and it was electric so it would make noise and light up and stuff. It was like pfft, and it was really cool. We go on vacation to the Catskills in New York and we go to the German Riviera is what they called it. Like all the resorts up there were German owned and we would go up there and they had like a trail through like the mountains and the woods and took you to a waterfall. My dad's like, grab your toy guns, let's go, let's check it out, and we go. And my brother's, like you know, looking for predator, I like, I'm like like there was one time he was like what, you high boy, what?

Speaker 2:

What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:

Yep, so that's how they got Robert, okay, well, I also watched something that kind of coincides with our X-Men.

Speaker 2:

I watched the X-Men 97. Did the?

Speaker 3:

new Disney Plus. It's really good. I feel like they did a really good job of keeping, like the, the theme of the original show, because they kept the same voice actors, the same, as far as I know, the same writers as well, and with this show it does a good job of kind of improving upon what lacked in the first one, like in the first, you know, x-men. It was a great show, but they kind of made Cyclops into a little whiny character. He's always like oh. Gene, he's always complaining.

Speaker 2:

That's why she was leaving you for Logan, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Things like that. Well, this one Gene.

Speaker 2:

Hey bub.

Speaker 3:

This show starts off a year after the end of the original, where Xavier is dying and he goes off into space with the Shi'ar to try and stay alive.

Speaker 2:

I assume he lives.

Speaker 3:

Don't know.

Speaker 2:

Not yet. How many episodes have you watched?

Speaker 3:

There's only two so far.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so it's.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, add the first two and then the next one comes out, I think Wednesday of this week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're doing a lot of that Because the rookie did that crap. The first three episodes of season six and everything else is TBD and I'm like what do you mean Release?

Speaker 3:

it. I think there's only going to be 10 episodes and they're only 30 minutes, just like the original, but they did a lot in these first two episodes. But one of the good things to do is Cyclops. He's actually a leader now. He he was, but now he really is because I'm in charge.

Speaker 2:

It's charles fifth, though now it's like we're doing what I said, because I could shoot laser beams and kill all of you there's.

Speaker 3:

There's one, uh mutant, like kid mutant that's getting like attacked or he's basically been kidnapped by the the same, uh, paramilitary group that was in the original x-men. But uh, he gets kidnapped. Well, storm and Cyclops and I think Gene all show up to rescue him. Storm comes in, she crashes through the skylight, but all these guys have what they call Sentinel tech in this new thing where they thought all the Sentinels were destroyed at the end of the original series.

Speaker 3:

Well this person. Somehow they have like a giant arm of the Sentinel and they've used the technology to make almost like Mega man, hand blasters, that's pretty cool. So they all have these and Cyclops comes in and they do a really good job of expanding on his abilities with his powers. Instead of just shooting a laser like it's got a, there's like a force behind his blast, so like he shoots the ground and like propels himself backwards out of the way as they're shooting at him and stuff. No, that's. They do a really good job.

Speaker 2:

There's thrust.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know doing different things. Like I mean, he like directs the blast at the ground and like maneuvers around the room.

Speaker 2:

If he crosses his eyes can he take two guys out in different directions.

Speaker 3:

Well, what's cool is like eventually they get him like in this trap, like they wrap him up to shoot something. It like wraps him up where he's like falling on the ground and they're like here, get his glasses so he can't shoot. So the guy's leaning down and they grab his glasses. He's like no, no, don't do it. Okay, it just opens his eyes. It goes to like a scene where you're looking at the outside of the building and all of a sudden all the windows just explode. But it does a really good job of that stuff it builds. At this point, in the very beginning of the show. Gene is pregnant. So Cyclops and Gene are actually planning on leaving the X-Men. Well, at the same time they find out Xavier's will. He left everything to Magneto because he still wants to try and change Magneto for the better. So he figures, if he leaves everything to him, then he'll be responsible and maybe that'll bring him to the lighter side.

Speaker 2:

He'll become like you need to step up to be leader of the X-Men.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah. So because everything's been left to him, cyclops and Gene decide to stay around because they don't trust it, because Magneto he's agreeable, but he's still like in their world.

Speaker 2:

He was still the bad guy, Still very anti-hero Right, I mean villainous, but very much more anti-hero, I would say.

Speaker 3:

Well, not in the cartoon, when they left off he was still like he still wanted to.

Speaker 3:

He would help the X-Men On occasion If it. He would help the X-Men to protect them, but not to stop other mutants from hurting people or nothing like that. But they have a part where it's only the first two episodes, so I'll go ahead and tell you. There's a part where they take Magneto in front of the Senate because for his war crimes. Well then the people attack, like the paramilitary group attack, to try and kill him. Well, he actually acts. They're just kind of indiscriminately shooting at everyone.

Speaker 3:

So, he actually protects the Senate members from the attack him and Storm. Well, they find out. This guy called Marauder no, sorry, not Marauder Executioner. That's a good name.

Speaker 3:

He has this gun that he shoots Storm and she loses her powers, and so she loses her powers and that kind of really makes Magneto mad. So he takes all the Senate members and the Executioner and flies them up to the edge of like the atmosphere and he's got them like in their little force field bubble where they can still breathe and stuff, and he's talking to them. He's like I could kill him right now and I could just let you all go where you are, watch you fall or float away. But then he's like but I'm trying to be better, I'm trying to change, I'm trying to be good, you are making it difficult Pretty much. So then he brings them back down and then you know they're like all right, we'll pardon him for his crimes to this point. But if he messes up again we'll be right back here.

Speaker 3:

But then they also have to deal with Aurora, which is Storm. She leaves the X-Men in the last scene of Episode 2 because she's no longer a mutant and she doesn't know where to go with her life because she's been a mutant as long as she can remember. And then also they do kind of a thing where I can't remember how much in the original X-Men. But there's kind of like a love interest between Magneto and Rogue because with Magneto's powers he can kind of put a barrier around himself to where him and Rogue can touch.

Speaker 3:

So, she gives him a kiss. Well, gambit sees Rogue leaving Magneto's office and you see him get pissed off. You see him clench his fist, which could point to there's an arc in the comics where Gambit becomes bad, not just a thief, but he becomes bad. It's interesting to see where they're going to go from there. Like I said, they do a really good job of innovative new ways for the characters to use their powers and stuff. Like I was talking about Cyclops, the dire consequences, where it's still a kid's show but it's mature enough to where adults can like it too, because Storm's trying to deal with an identity crisis, because she doesn't know who she is without her powers.

Speaker 2:

Now, I'm sure she'll get them back.

Speaker 3:

You've got the relationship problems with Rogue and Magneto and Gambit, the little love triangle.

Speaker 2:

That's a weird love triangle.

Speaker 3:

But it's really cool, they've got the power siphoner. Oh, also, at the very end, right before the episode cuts off, jean's pregnant and she's like, oh, the baby's coming. Well, then somebody knocks on the door and they open it up and it's Jean.

Speaker 2:

But yet Jean's still standing here.

Speaker 3:

It's Spider-Man's pointing at each other. So one of the two is Madeline Pryor, which is a clone of Jean. That was a bad guy that was in like the Hellfire Club and stuff, so you don't know which one's which, though, so Cyclops could possibly have had a baby with not Gene and not known it, uh-oh, but they also they've kind of changed up the roster of the X-Men, where they've added Morph, because he came back at the very end of the original series, but he looks different Like his face almost looks like the His face is like white.

Speaker 2:

He looks like Voldemort.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he kind of looks like that. And then they also added Bishop, which his powers basically any kind of energy or electrical charge that he gets hit with, he can contain it and then redirect it like as a blast out of his hand, but he's a part of the X-Men, now Cool.

Speaker 2:

I might have to check this one out, because it's on, it's on Disney+, disney+.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and at the time of us recording there's only two episodes. By the time this comes out, there'll be at least three, I think we'll have to do a season review. I mean it's a really good show. I watched the last episode of the so I could make sure I was up to date with where they're coming off.

Speaker 2:

I haven't seen. I haven't either, not since it originally came out. In like 20 years.

Speaker 3:

But there's also a rumor that they're going to include some of the other characters, like 1990's.

Speaker 2:

Spider-Man oh, that'd be so cool Like he might show up. Oh, redo the 90's. I want the same Aerosmith intro.

Speaker 3:

There's possibly him, there's possibly him, there's possibly the Hulk and the Fantastic Four.

Speaker 2:

There's rumors that they might either cameo or have a small role, because they were all in that same little 90s universe with X-Men, spider-man, doctor Strange, daredevil.

Speaker 3:

Well, because 90s Spider-Man actually had a couple episodes where he runs into the X-Men. Yeah, they capture him, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you're a mutant, he goes. No, I just got bit by a spider. Yeah, I'm like you're a mutant, he goes. No, I just got bit by a spider. Yeah, actually, that's what happened here.

Speaker 3:

If this one's successful. There has been talks where they might bring back the 90s Spider-Man and a lot of those people, like the writers and stuff, said, yeah, we'll do it. If they want us, we'll. It's an awesome little show. I encourage you, if you like the X-Men or if you like the original cartoon, to check it out.

Speaker 2:

I might just check that out after you leave.

Speaker 3:

Or I'm just going to keep watching the X-Men.

Speaker 2:

I'm in the middle of season two. I had seen all of it, but now I'm kind of in a re-watch, okay.

Speaker 3:

I've just been like you know this was a good show. So, tom Mitch oh, I'm about to call 911 on accident Do you have any news or anything that you've looked up recently?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, today this morning 11 am, rebirth Island.

Speaker 3:

Tip, tip, tip, tip. Oh, wrong one. There you go. Welcome to the Warzone, Anyways.

Speaker 2:

So, anyway, warzone, rebirth Island, we all knew it, we all loved it. Well, some people, not Mitch. I was a Rebirth Island lunatic with triple digit wins.

Speaker 3:

It was alright. It wasn't necessarily my cup of tea.

Speaker 2:

It was aggressive Warzone, not the long game where it's like you play for 20 something minutes to half an hour, never see a team and your whole team gets schwacked on some BS because someone ran out into the open and stood completely still and demanded we come get him, come get me, revive it. Revive it While you're trying to move and reload, but every time you hit X he's bumping into you. So you do the res animation. You never reload the gun and then the guy jumps the corner and just shoots you both and you're just like yeah, now that he's down and you're fighting an entire team of three that just keeps like.

Speaker 2:

With a third of the mag capacity. Yeah, they just keep leapfrogging coming back. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

A continuous two on three, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I loved Rebirth so I was super excited because I told you about it and you're like nah, it's coming back for mobile and I was like nah they're bringing it back. It's going to be part of season three.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because I hadn't heard anything. I knew it was on mobile and then Verdansk was on mobile.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think Verdansk is probably going to be season four.

Speaker 3:

Probably.

Speaker 2:

I would imagine they're going to end up bringing that back. There was like a minute and a half teaser, for they said they didn't change anything like structural-wise nothing, but the trailer was showing like what is it in-game like strike things that were like doing like property damage? Yeah, like the stupid tower.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

We got like knocked down on, like an airstrike, the lighthouse thing that everybody used to camp in and snipe, which it probably I don't know it might play. It's going to play a lot more different because you don't have the threat of just getting shot in the face and being downed Right.

Speaker 2:

I mean you kind of do, but it's not as aggressively prevalent as it was then, where if you were above, if you were on a roof, you had to constantly move. You were crouching, you were up, down, up down, moving side to side, you were bobbing and weaving, just trying to look in one direction, because if there's a sniper halfway across that map and they can see you, they're going to try to kill you because I was that person.

Speaker 3:

They've kind of changed it to where yeah, because the snipers, most of them, for the most part, they're not one-shot hits anymore. So it will. It will be a little different.

Speaker 2:

The CAT AMR still is, but they just drop the bullet velocity a lot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's not as accurate and everything like that either.

Speaker 2:

Yeah there's a lot of bullet you got to know it really well to make it work.

Speaker 3:

You know the people that used to try and stand up in the middle of prison. They'll actually be able to now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not like you're getting. You know, hdr, sbr 100s or CAR 98.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was at the car 98.

Speaker 2:

I was at the SP.

Speaker 3:

Actually I remember on that one I forgot what the revolver or the lever action, the MK2. I would use that with that little scope that Hayden told me about. It was like the, I guess, heat vision or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean the thermal. Thermal, yeah, I mean, we had a lot of fun. Yeah. I had so much fun. Like most of my friend list on Call of Duty was dudes I met playing Rebirth. I mean.

Speaker 2:

I have no problem, you would join in. You know, in quads, find a lobby where all three of your guys had bikes, talk, and it was like you just play, like there was like one, like we played, like I ended up with them and like we got second place. We lost some dude who wasn't talking, got a dude who did, and we're like, hey, we just got second place, how are you doing? And he's like, oh, I just got fifth. I was like, all right, cool, we're trying to win. We're just all talking shooting the breeze as we won that game, we won the next game, we won the next game. After that, I think we came in third. The next game.

Speaker 3:

Then we came in first again.

Speaker 2:

It was like hours. It was like 4 o'clock in the morning and I'm just playing Call of Duty with random dudes. I was like hey. I'm friend requesting you guys. I played with them a couple more times, but it's like ships passing in the night.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean it's really fun. The only thing that bothers me is that they still have problems with the hackers and all that kind of stuff. So you come across people that just automatically kill you by shooting you in the pinky toe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I don't know if we talked about it last time with the hackers, with what they're doing. I don't think so. Where the new hack is yes, you are hacking your balls off, it just is what it is. The aim assist, aim locks the velocity, the walling being able to see everybody at the map at one time, but the you know was, uh, walling, being able to see everybody at the map on one time. But the hack now that they're using is when they get reported. They know so, when they become monitored because of it. It disables it when it takes screenshots, which is, like you know, blows my mind that people figured that out and I'm like you guys can figure, figure that out. Were you the same people that figured out how to put people on the moon? Like huh.

Speaker 2:

So that's going to be, I imagine. I mean this is going to be Warzone's probably going to get easier for everybody else, because all the sweats and lunatics lived for Rebirth, because I was one of them.

Speaker 3:

They're all going to go to Rebirth.

Speaker 2:

I know, and then regular Big Map Warzone is just going to be a snooze fest of the dregs of.

Speaker 3:

But I could win there. Then All the sweats will go to the other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, really, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Speaker 3:

Well, after your Warzone news here I have a couple other things. I had to look and find it but, like I know, this isn't something you're excited for, but my Little Girl she'll love it. The movie, the Wish movie from Disney. It's coming to Disney Plus on April 3rd. It's interesting, my Little Girl. She's seen all the trailers and stuff so she's really into it.

Speaker 2:

That's nice though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I remember being a little kid and seeing a movie trailer and just being all about it. That's nice, though. Yeah, I remember being a little kid and seeing a movie trailer and just being all about it, and you had no idea what it was. For me it was Lord of the Rings. I just knew there was some midgets, a wizard and a ring.

Speaker 3:

Have you seen who's been offered the role of James Bond?

Speaker 2:

Was that Aaron Taylor Johnson? Yeah, I'm okay with that, supposedly he's been you know what. That's smart because he's young.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so he could be here for a while. That's at least 10 years of Bond.

Speaker 3:

Now, I don't know if maybe he's just trying to throw shade to it, to, like you know, throw people off Because he's like well, I don't know if I want to be a certain character for an extended years of my life. Dude, it's Bond. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

That's one of the most select groups.

Speaker 3:

I think he's just trying to hold out for a little more money, or something like that.

Speaker 2:

There's names like Connery Roger Moore, dalton, craig Brosnan. You are Bond.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, also, there's another character, that's well, another actor. Have you seen who's been trying to be Batman? Like trying to get James Gunn to let him be Batman? No, jake Gyllenhaal. You know what he wants to be the new Bruce Wayne Batman.

Speaker 2:

You know what? I wouldn't be opposed If this was 10 years ago. I'd be like hell, no. But you know his physicality. Now he's got the age of a more mature. Yeah, like he'd be a more in his prime Batman.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I think it would be pretty cool to see him.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't be mad at that at all.

Speaker 3:

After watching the Roadhouse movie, which I'll talk about in our next episode.

Speaker 2:

To be honest, Henry Cavill probably would have been a great Batman. Yeah, like he looks like a Bruce Wayne. Like the black hair, the blue eyes, the 6'4 jacked. You look like comic book Batman.

Speaker 3:

Well, speaking of Henry Cavill, there's actually a rumor that he might be playing Wolverine in the X-Men he's too big. Well, there's a rumor he might be playing in Deadpool and Wolverine movie.

Speaker 2:

As like an alternate. Yes, that'd be funny. I like that. Because, I mean, they already have Brad Pitt as the invisible guy who gets like an eighth of a second of screen time.

Speaker 3:

Because supposedly it's confirmed he has a Marvel role, but nobody knows what it is yet. So that's kind of like the theory that they're thinking he's going to play a variant of Wolverine. Yeah, I'd watch that. Let's see One of my favorite shows of all time Smallville.

Speaker 2:

They're actually going to bring back as an animated like DC TV show. Excuse me, I burped out of my nose. I didn't know that was possible.

Speaker 3:

It'll be like a continuation of the series from where it ended. It'll be Smallville, and all the actors agreed to come back as like the voice actors. So that would be pretty cool, and I know Michael Rosenbaum is really good friends with James Gunn so it's a possibility he could get it put into play.

Speaker 2:

I feel like there's a lot of possibilities out there that I think that they should definitely think like what kind of fandom I mean?

Speaker 3:

I don't want to say fan service, but there's a lot of good stuff that they could be doing instead of the crap we've been dealing with the last 10 years. Yeah, the last thing I'll talk about right now involves wrestling. Yes, I know, but it's Bray Wyatt. He passed away last year, but he was the one that remember when we played wrestling and I came out with that character that had the mask and you're like what the heck is that?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the dude from like the Nightmare Fuel.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he passed away last year. Well, they have a documentary that's going to be about him. It comes out right here at the beginning of April, before WrestleMania starts.

Speaker 2:

So we'll have that review next We'll have that review next.

Speaker 3:

We'll have that review as soon as it comes out.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to watch it Not shocked at all.

Speaker 3:

I do have a little bit of information on some other stuff that we'll talk about next time Some more DC projects, marvel projects and some other horror and sci-fi. That's all I got for today.

Speaker 2:

That's all I got. So thank you for hanging out through this episode of Entertain this. If you like it, check out through this episode of Entertain this, If you like it. Check us out on social media. Mitch already told you what it was at the beginning of the episode. I don't feel like repeating it. You can rewind back and listen to all that.

Speaker 3:

The biggest ones is Twitter, which is at thisentertain, and Instagram, entertainthis.

Speaker 2:

Those things. And if you liked what we did, tell us. If you hated it, bet you won't tell us, bet, you're not that cool. And then if you want to hear stuff like oh hey, you guys are doing the X-Men movies, Like oh, I really like this movie, we will watch it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's a movie he wants to hear, but I want to hear more about.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it took us a year to watch 15 seasons of Supernatural and get that going. So you might give us a little bit of time, depending on what you ask for, but we can make it happen, we have the technology.

Speaker 1:

We can do things, we just don't want to spend a lot of money right, we're poor on the show.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for listening. This was entertain this. I'm tom I'm mitch and we'll see you next episode. You, we'll see you next time.

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