ET! Throwback: Predicting Marvel's Next Big Moves in Superhero Storytelling

Ever wondered how Wanda Maximoff's chaos magic could twist the Marvel Cinematic Universe or what the arrival of the Ten Rings and Shang-Chi means for your favorite heroes? Look no further! This episode, featuring the unparalleled insights of comic book savant Mitch, promises an electrifying journey through the latest developments and speculations in the MCU. From the Scarlet Witch's unsettling transformation in "WandaVision" to the Darkhold's grim lore, we're peeling back layers of the narrative that could very well redefine our understanding of power and consequence in the Marvel realm. And with the TVA's timeline antics in "Loki" on the table, we're questioning the very fabric of superhero reality.

Prepare for a rollercoaster of theories as we scrutinize the implications of the MCU's freshest faces, including the formidable Yelena Belova and the enigmatic Mandarin. Mitch's expertise shines as we dissect Hawkeye's past with Jack Duquesne and unravel the potential seismic shifts in store for SHIELD, SWORD, and the multiverse at large. The specter of Captain America's shield looms large—will his legacy be honored or upended? Plus, we can barely contain our excitement, or our notes, when we hint at the multiversal mayhem expected in "Spider-Man: No Way Home."

Hold onto your capes, as we round up the episode with a future-gazing glimpse into Phase 4 of the MCU, including tidbits about "Thor: Love and Thunder" and the "Ms. Marvel" TV show. Mitch and Tom, along with Hayden, are stirring the pot of speculation with rumblings about returning legends, newly cast heroes, and the much-anticipated introduction of Adam Warlock. We close the vortex of this episode with a light-hearted forecast of my upcoming LOTR TV show rant and a salute to the exhaustive preparation that goes into keeping you, our listeners, at the forefront of all things Marvel.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:24

Hey, welcome to an entertain this special where we answer your questions about the future of Marvel and DC movies and television shows and characters and how they could be used or fit in for the future and currently.

Speaker 2 0:35

Yes.

Speaker 1 0:35

I'm Tom. With me, I have Hayden and Mitch. And Mitch, since you are our resident PhD on Marvel and DC, I will defer to you for your research on what you have planned.

Speaker 2 0:50

What's Superman's blood type Alien?

Speaker 3 0:55

I already get a pass on that one. Because they sent this on the entertainthispodcastcom site. I kind of looked into it a good bit, but I focused all on Marvel because I didn't think we'd have time to talk for both. Dc's got more stuff coming out later on down the line.

Speaker 2 1:11

We can do another special for that sometime.

Speaker 3 1:13

But we'll start out with like from after Endgame is, you had, wandavision was the first thing to come out, and that was WandaVision. And then they had the new character Agatha Harkness, but and that was Wanda Vision, and then they had the new character Agatha Harkness, but basically Wanda.

Speaker 1 1:30

Wanda Did she poot, is that what?

Speaker 3 1:33

you were trying to convey. Wanda has the chaos magic, which is like this new thing that the MCU is kind of starting to show. I guess more of the magic side of things, because you have Doctor Strange, but they didn't really have a whole lot of magic-esque stuff going on in Marvel until he showed up Sorcerer Supreme, but basically in this show she unleashes her power towards the end, where she becomes the actual Scarlet Witch, which is when she becomes a bad guy.

Speaker 2 2:01

She got her happenings from the Infinity stone in the movies. In the movies, yes. So what? What infinity stone was that? Do we remember?

Speaker 3 2:09

um, I think it's the well, I don't know if it's the mind stone or the space stone. That's where they like get the energy from it was in the scepter yeah, I can't remember which one that one was, though that's not the power stone, is it?

Speaker 2 2:21

no, that's no. I think it's the mind stone. It's either the mind or is it.

Speaker 3 2:23

No, I think it's the Mind Stone. It's either the Mind or the Space, because both of those are blue.

Speaker 1 2:25

I think it's the Space Stone.

Speaker 2 2:27

No, the Space Stone is in the Tesseract, the cube Keyed.

Speaker 3 2:31

Yeah, I know it's one of those, but yeah, that's where she gets it in the MCU. Somehow they unlocked the power to give her the powers.

Speaker 2 2:39

The power.

Speaker 1 2:45

May the power protect you, but basically she inherently can just do magic now. So it's not solely based on the Infinity Stone anymore.

Speaker 3 2:49

No, like he just unlocked a power that was in her somehow, almost like she's a mutant, which she should be.

Speaker 1 2:56

Technically, though in this timeline correct me if I'm wrong the Infinity Stones still exist.

Speaker 3 3:01

No, after the endgame they were supposedly destroyed.

Speaker 1 3:04

I thought they were put back in time oh, that's right, I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 3:07

Yeah, they did. They didn't go back and put them in time give me a phd. I want to know uh, captain, I forgot, captain. America went and returned all of them to the right timelines because they were actually infinity stones from a different time from the past.

Speaker 1 3:19

It's confusing on how they did all that, but so would she still be drawing power then from that infinity stone? Shouldn't be now, because these are like her, natural powers, because she it's confusing on how they did all that. But so would she still be drawing power then from?

Speaker 3 3:25

that Infinity Stone Shouldn't be. No, because these are like her natural powers, because she can make them stronger and stuff. That's why she becomes a Scarlet Witch, because she unlocks more of the power within herself.

Speaker 2 3:33

Was she in the comics? Was she always a mutant?

Speaker 3 3:36

Yes, always. Yes, she's Magneto's daughter, ah yeah, but uh, amy Killens are dead. Gandalf Barbar Baggins yeah, she does that, and she steals the Darkhold from the Agatha Harkness lady, which she's Basically. She knows a lot about the magic and stuff. She's like a quote-unquote witch for the Marvel, but now she's trapped inside the town that the Scarlet Witch trapped her in. But like the Darkhold is basically, it's written by the evil elder god Chathun or something like that.

Speaker 2 4:12

It sounds like the Necronomicon Actually it says it like it's.

Speaker 3 4:16

This is where the Necronomicon are like. They're almost the same thing, except for, you know, in different continuities of other stuff.

Speaker 1 4:22

One's Bruce Campbell One's Marvel. I mean Bruce Campbell one's Marvel.

Speaker 3 4:25

I mean, essentially, that's what this is. It says, like the Necronomicon, this is tied to Atlantis sinking. It's tied to how vampires were originally created in Marvel. It actually holds the spell to destroy all vampires, but whoever uses it and reads from it slowly goes insane and loses their soul and becomes a vessel for the Chithun elder evil god.

Speaker 2 4:52

Okay.

Speaker 3 4:54

So the Marvel has celestials.

Speaker 1 4:57

Yes.

Speaker 3 4:57

All right, and the elder god is what to that it's some kind of magic being that's like different than those.

Speaker 1 5:04

I think there's a lot of gods and like nigh omnipotent there's a lot called gods, but they're different branches of things, so because they've acknowledged vampires exist and in the one vision show do they expressly say like you know, this is how vampires were created and this is also the spell that can eliminate them.

Speaker 3 5:21

Well, none of that is is talked about in wandavision, but that's what? But that's the whole thing that the Darkhold is supposed to be about. So that's a comics thing, but that's what the book is about is how vampires were created and this evil force.

Speaker 1 5:34

I wonder if that'll play into Morbius.

Speaker 3 5:37

Possibly. But I know it'll probably play some into Blade also. But in this show they had Monica Rambeau, which she becomes Spect and she's got some kind of like grudge against captain marvel for some reason. I don't remember like them actually meeting in the show that just kind of like mentioned that wasn't her mother, yeah, like her mother wasn't saved by captain marvel, or something like that uh, kind of so, like I guess, like hanging out with Captain Marvel.

Speaker 2 6:06

her mom got cancer.

Speaker 3 6:07

That's right, yeah, so she's mad at her.

Speaker 2 6:09

Okay, because she's toxic.

Speaker 1 6:11

That sounds like some. Yeah, free Larson Toxic.

Speaker 3 6:14

But something that happened in the show, like something caused Monica to get these powers where, like she, can absorb light and manipulate energies and things like that. Okay, you have. Wanda has two kids in this reality that she created, that she's trapped in, which are called Tommy and Billy. Tommy has super speed, just like Quicksilver, and then Billy can do magic, just like Wanda, but they're like the little kids, billy.

Speaker 1 6:38

So in the future, in probably about 20 years, one of them becomes the Green Ranger, the other one becomes the Blue Ranger. They're dead. Well in this, don't ruin it for me.

Speaker 3 6:48

In this, they cease to exist because that reality is broken down when she realizes that everything around her is basically a figment of her imagination that she just made real.

Speaker 1 7:01

So she broke the laws of physics and created. Yes, because she Because magic.

Speaker 3 7:06

Well, because she's strong enough to change reality. Like, like in the comics she creates she what they call the house of m, which basically she said no more mutants. And all the mutants disappeared, like all of them lost their powers including wolverine, all of them wow nobody just like crumple into dust, because he's like, like, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 7:24

So I wonder if they're going that route where she's that powerful, because basically, she steals the Darkhold, she traps Agatha in this reality that she keeps maintained and then at the end of WandaVision you see her like turning into the Scarlet Witch. She's like floating in this cabin out in the middle of nowhere and you can hear her kids like screaming like you know, mom, mom, but technically they're dead, but so, but they didn't exist to begin with. But she's using the book to try and learn how to gain the power to bring him to life for real.

Speaker 2 7:53

Oh interesting. What about possibly? What about vision? Is she gonna bring him? Now?

Speaker 3 7:56

he's dead the original vision's dead. They created a new body which somehow he's he's vision, but he's. He has none of the memories and none of the stuff that the original one had, other than when they talked in the show they talk and he kind of explains things to him. So this new Vision because it's a new android body helps out Wanda, but then just disappears.

Speaker 2 8:16

Was this Vision at all like the one in the comics? Did they hook up with Wanda? Did he hook up with WandaVision in the comics?

Speaker 3 8:23

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:31

And they actually had kids which were tommy and billy, and, like another thing was the mind stone that vision needed to exist was just whatever it's gone. And then it the white vision, the evil one he had one.

Speaker 3 8:42

They had some kind of synthetic version that like enough to power him and like to make him sentient, Almost like Ultron, which in the comics Ultron does take Vision's body at some point and become a thing again.

Speaker 1 8:55

Okay, which is the premise for Age of Ultron, for when Vision was introduced?

Speaker 2 8:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1 8:59

That's why he's creating the body.

Speaker 2 9:00

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 9:02

But, so, so all that leads to the ending of it leads to more things alluded to down the road, like, like I said, the dark hold's got, you know, a lot to do with vampires. Her becoming scarlet witch is going to have a big part of the doctor strange multiverse of madness because she's unlocking doors to these other dimensions.

Speaker 2 9:21

So interesting, and then we get doc. That's.

Speaker 3 9:26

That's spider verse but that could all be it could all be tied together some way. Uh, the next thing that had come out in the sequential order was, uh, the falcon and winter soldier, which I mean. Granted, there wasn't a whole lot that went on. That was important. There was a few key things it was dumb.

Speaker 1 9:43

I feel like they tried to play off like the weird like buddy cop romance. Yeah, that was um anthony mackie and sebastian stans characters.

Speaker 3 9:51

It was dumb, um, it just didn't pan out well as a show some of the key things they they had for the show were that, you know, they have created other super soldiers now. So it's a thing that, besides just creating the Hulk on accident in the Hulk movie, they, uh, they, they created, uh, john Walker, which becomes us agent, which Valentina Allegra day Fontaine, which is Madam Hydra. She's the Elaine.

Speaker 1 10:15

Yeah From Seinfeld. Is it really? Yeah, it's Elaine Venice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 10:18

Yeah, she Adam Hydra, which she's recruiting, like she's recruiting John Walker, probably Yelena Belova, which is the new Black Widow, like it was Black Widow's sister.

Speaker 1 10:32

Okay.

Speaker 3 10:32

Zemo, and then possibly like Taskmaster and stuff like that, Characters along those lines, you know to form the Thunderbolts, which is basically like the Suicide Squad for Marvel.

Speaker 1 10:42

So it's just a bunch of villains that work for the government. They sound like a 50s gang from like Greece. The Thunderbolts, eh, the Thunderbolts.

Speaker 3 10:49

Got fast cars. And then you have the power broker, which is the Agent 13, which Sharon Carter's like niece or something like that I can't remember what.

Speaker 1 11:01

The blonde woman. Yeah, she From.

Speaker 3 11:04

Sharon Carter was aunt peggy oh, yeah, yeah so she becomes the power broker, which is like this, basically black market dealer, where she loans out henchmen and weapons and she can like so she's like a temp agency but she's undercover pretty much yeah for bad guys.

Speaker 2 11:20

Is she undercover? I thought she was banished from america she was.

Speaker 3 11:23

But at the end of the show they, like you know, absolved her of all those crimes because they found out she was really working for them and helping them. But she's still like at the end of the show, you realize she's still in control of all this stuff.

Speaker 1 11:35

Okay so okay.

Speaker 3 11:38

That's, that's I to it, but they haven't really revealed anything past that on the show. Okay, interesting, then it moves on to Loki Loki's where you kind of get your big threat. I guess as far as the MCU with Kang the Conqueror- who is Kang the? Conqueror, an evil, time-traveling killer.

Speaker 1 12:03

So Doc Brown Without the DeLorean?

Speaker 3 12:07

You have King, which is he's the man at the end of time, which is the guy they sit down. Loki and Sylvie sit down and talk to. Yeah, sylvie is a variant of Loki. She's basically a female Loki from another dimension, and they fall in love. Ugh.

Speaker 1 12:20

Alabama man.

Speaker 3 12:23

But yeah, king the Conqueror is another variant of the original King which they sit down and talk to. He's evil, he's destined to be a mortis. Which is he's supposed to run the TVA. Which is this time-traveling cop force that's supposed to keep the timelines in check?

Speaker 2 12:40

It's super bureaucratic though.

Speaker 3 12:42

They fail to do so so he's like the ball sack dudes from Rick and Morty Pretty much. Kind of yeah.

Speaker 2 12:50

We got a 22-13 on the snake planet. Think you're smart snake, I will best fit time.

Speaker 3 12:58

I will, but through the show you get to the point where they had this whole hierarchy of who's supposed to be over all the TVA people and that gets completely broken down to where, when the show ends, you don't really know who's in charge of it anymore.

Speaker 3 13:09

Okay, you have Mobius, which is Owen Wilson. He was the guy that was basically taking Loki around to all these other dimensions trying to catch the other variants of Loki. There's no resolution on what happens with him after the show ends and then basically the king, the good king version, is sitting there telling Loki and Sylvie that all the timelines have been fractured, and you know he's sitting there as he's talking. Like somebody showed that if you line up when Wanda turns into Scarlet Witch, from the beginning of that episode to the beginning, or to that point where she changes from this episode of Loki to when he says you know the whole thing's, there's no way to go back from what's been changed now that those line up perfectly with, like the time stamps and stuff.

Speaker 1 13:55

There's a way to go back. Marvel will find a way. Well, supposedly Stanley already wrote it.

Speaker 3 14:00

Supposedly things have been fractured beyond control. I already wrote it Supposedly things have been fractured beyond control, the fractured butthole which you know. If they line that up with the Spider-Man and Multiverse of Madness and stuff coming out, that could be interesting. We'll see how that goes, though. After Loki you go into Black Widow, which I mean it didn't have a whole lot other than like kind of a farewell to Black Widow.

Speaker 2 14:23

And it introduced her sister.

Speaker 3 14:26

Yeah, introduced Yelena Belova, which was played by Ivana Hapalot. Her last name's Pew. I can't remember her first name, florence.

Speaker 2 14:37

Florence.

Speaker 1 14:37

Florence. Yeah, I was going to say a lot of.

Speaker 3 14:43

But at the end of the uh uh black widow, she gets approached by uh, valentina fontaine, about, you know, joining her and helping track down uh some of the avengers okay specifically, yeah, so in this like timeline.

Speaker 1 14:59

You know, post end game years down the road the avengers are just kind of like bye, they're all kind of spread out. It was like the end of the Sandlot, where it's like so-and-so moved here, so-and-so went and did this so-and-so we haven't seen since the 60s.

Speaker 2 15:11

Well, I mean, yeah, a lot of them are dead and most have left the world.

Speaker 3 15:18

I mean, a lot of them are spread out and they're doing their own things because there's not some big event that they know of to bring them back all together. Right, one thing that Black Widow kind of alludes to is like General Ross is in this movie, which he's the one that's been after the Hulk a lot. Well, eventually in the comics he becomes the Red Hulk and he's I would think that, if he keeps appearing, you know, as General Ross.

Speaker 1 15:42

He's going to become the Red Hulk.

Speaker 3 15:43

I would think that's a possibility, because that also ties into the She-Hulk show, because he's supposed to appear in that too. Oh, okay, but there's not a whole lot for Black Widow, other than the fact that it shows, you know, that her sister basically takes her place as becoming Black Widow, but not for the Avengers, for just Madame Hydra. They don't know this person's Hydra, but that's who she is in the comics. The same person with the same name.

Speaker 2 16:06

She was in most post-credits scenes.

Speaker 1 16:08

Yeah.

Speaker 2 16:08

Just the new scheming villain.

Speaker 3 16:12

Kind of like Nick Fury would show up and collect the Avengers. She's showing up and collecting these people that become the Avengers.

Speaker 1 16:15

I'll tell you about the Avengers initiative.

Speaker 3 16:17

Yeah, pretty much After Black Widow came, shang-chi came out. Which Shang-Chi? There were some things in that. Like you see, wong is fighting with Abomination in this like fight pit kind of thing, but then after the fight's over you realize that they're friends kind of and they leave together, like you know.

Speaker 1 16:37

It was like Goku and Vegeta.

Speaker 3 16:39

I mean, they give like a fist bump and they walk through this portal and that's the last you see of them.

Speaker 2 16:42

really, Well, you see Wong at the end. Yeah, he sings karaoke with them for some reason. Yeah, but that's about it.

Speaker 1 16:47

And Abomination.

Speaker 3 16:48

He doesn't morph back to the guy he's stuck looking like that. He always stays hulked out looking. Does he look like how he did in the Edward Norton movie? Not, not a lot, but just enough to where you can see facial it's not um what's his face?

Speaker 2 17:05

the dude from reservoir dogs, something roth eli roth.

Speaker 1 17:08

Eli roth, no, that's not his name eli roth is director.

Speaker 2 17:12

I don't remember, never mind, is it him playing uh abomination I can't remember the guy's name.

Speaker 3 17:19

It's the same one from the edward norton it's the same guy.

Speaker 1 17:23

Yeah okay, at least I get, at least he kept it.

Speaker 3 17:26

Um, another thing with like shang chi is they talk about the 10 rings. Well, one of the end credits for that movie because you know it's out on disney plus, you can watch it now it's they show that the the 10 rings are sending out a beacon, but they don't know who or why they're sending out this beacon. They don't really know how they were created and in the comics they have like an alien origin, which I could see that being a thing in this one, because they don't look like they're just normal ancient kind of things. They have like metallic, like glowing, I don't know they look like they could be.

Speaker 1 17:57

They look like space stuff.

Speaker 3 17:58

Yep, because you know Captain Marvel's talking, so it looks like they could possibly tie that into something she knows about Captain Marvel's in that movie for a cameo, yeah, so Lame. And then they have the Taolo, which is the heavenly city that they go to at the end. That's protecting the rest of the world by guarding this gate. That goes to like this dark realm.

Speaker 1 18:19

They don't really give you— Like where the Dark Elves are from Thor, the Dark World.

Speaker 3 18:22

Not that.

Speaker 1 18:23

There's too much going on. Yeah, there's a lot. This is like that picture of Charlie Day when he's pointing at the board. There's all the wires going by. He's like gah, All crazy. He's like that's what the timeline is right now.

Speaker 3 18:34

Well, in this there's these tentacle-looking flying things that come after people From Hellboy. Kind of.

Speaker 1 18:40

They look like it.

Speaker 3 18:41

But in Shang-Chi they have to stop those. But there's some great evil behind this gate that they stop from completely releasing. Yeah. But they don't really go too much more into that. They're like saving that for later Pretty much Pay no attention to that. Well then, after that you have the what If series which supposedly this ties into the movies and the shows, but it's just an animated version that, like the history of it, will tie into the other shows with the multiverse stuff.

Speaker 1 19:09

With like the different versions, like where Peggy Carter becomes Captain America instead of Steve Rogers. Yeah, captain Carter. Sorry, captain Carter.

Speaker 3 19:17

So at some point throughout this whole multiverse stuff, you might see Peggy Carter show up for, you know, a few minutes or something like that. Yeah. But in that they had the zombie Marvel. Pause for you, you didn't have to. They had the zombie Marvel. All right, there's a new Ultron and he has a whole Ultron army Again. Yeah, ultron gains the Infinity Stones from this other time.

Speaker 1 19:50

That's not good.

Speaker 3 19:51

And then the other Ultrons don't have Infinity Stones, but they're all Ultron bodies that he basically sends out to do his dirty work for him.

Speaker 1 19:57

He's like since I got the stones, I'm in charge, and then they create a whole new Avenger team. Yeah, the Ultrons.

Speaker 3 20:05

No, no, no, Like they gain, like there's like this dark-looking like he was evil Doctor Strange, but he's trying to be good now. There's a Sharon Carter or Peggy Carter that takes like the Captain America serum. There's like Goofy Thor that never did any of the other stuff. There's this like goofy Thor that never did any of the other stuff, he just came to earth to party. There's a Captain Marvel and all sorts of stuff. Then it moves on to the next thing that came out was the Eternals, which that's where you get, like the Celestials, and all that because they work for the Celestials, but they're the Eternals.

Speaker 2 20:41

I guess like the Celestials, but they're the Eternals. I guess the Celestials are just. They just exist. They don't have a purpose. They're just interstellar species that plant seeds and planets to birth new Celestials.

Speaker 3 20:57

Yeah, I mean Marvel, the MCU. In the comics they have the one above all, and then he has another tier below him of like gods, and then they have the Celestials. Well, I don't know if the MCU is going to go that route, but right now the Celestials are like the highest power in the universe. Right. You know. So they judge planets, they decide. You know what planets need to thrive and grow and what universes need to be.

Speaker 2 21:22

You know or what planets need to thrive and grow, and what what universes need to be, you know, or what galaxies need to be destroyed, and things like that, and they they create. What are those things?

Speaker 3 21:31

called the monsters. Oh, the, the deviants. They created those an accident? Yeah, um, because the deviants are like a messed up version of the eternals. They just like their dna was corrupted, or something like that and somehow thanos is one of them he's got deviant DNA in him, but he's more eternal.

Speaker 2 21:43

That's why he's a humanoid figure, and his brother, who's named Starfox.

Speaker 3 21:49

What? Yeah, that's his superhero name. His real name is Eros. His real name is Fox McCloud. He's Eros. He's a member of the Starfox team. His superhero name is Starfox. He's an eternal. Yeah, he's Thanos' brother. He's a being from Titan, which is the moon, saturn, but the Celestials, basically they're massive power conduits. So as the Earth, the knowledge and the people grows on the Earth, these Eternals basically absorb this power inside the planet and then basically the planet's like an egg. Then it births a new Celestial.

Speaker 1 22:23

Okay.

Speaker 3 22:23

Well, in this movie, that's what the Eternals are trying to do is stop that from happening, because they like Earth and they don't want it destroyed.

Speaker 2 22:29

Yeah.

Speaker 3 22:30

They didn't realize that was like the plot.

Speaker 1 22:32

Why does everybody want Earth just gone? Because we have great food.

Speaker 2 22:35

What do we do?

Speaker 3 22:36

So basically they've got to stop that. And doing that causes their planet a celestial, captures them at the end and tells them that the planet's going to be judged, which that could possibly lead to Galactus.

Speaker 1 22:47

Show me what you got.

Speaker 3 22:51

They have Dane Whitman, which is Jon Snow. Kit Harington he's in here as the Black Knight. He's not technically the Black Knight yet, but that's who he is because he still has the ebony blade.

Speaker 2 23:05

Knock off Excalibur.

Speaker 3 23:06

Well, kind of, he's actually a descendant from the Knights of King Arthur. Yeah.

Speaker 3 23:14

But he's more of a magic-type hero, where the Ebony Blade is also called the Midnight Blade for some times. But it can make the user go mad to where, basically, they start doing the most evil things that their person would do, like, um, the sword it's got the ability to cut anything the wielder and then the uh, the person that wields it can't be injured, or they can be injured but they can't be killed. So as long as he's holding the sword he can't die. Um, but you know he can be hurt and stuff, but, right, well, killed. So as long as he's holding the sword he can't die, but he can be hurt and stuff, but only to a certain extent. Does he duct tape it to his hand? Well, he can actually call kind of like a Mjolnir. He can just pull out his hand and the sword will come back to him.

Speaker 1 23:55

So if it gets knocked out of his hand.

Speaker 3 23:57

He can just pull it back, fetal blow because the sword's been enchanted by Merlin and then in this movie, like he's going like at the end of the movie, he's going to reach for the blade and you can hear Blade's voice like actual blade, like the vampire hunter. You can hear his voice kind of warning him not to touch it because, like I was telling uh hayden, you know the, the voice or the sword makes the person go mad. So, yeah, interesting, and that's all I really have for eternals. Next we have hawkeye, which it's on right now. They haven't revealed, you know it's not over, so there's I'm sure there'll be more things coming out. But you know you have hawkeye. He's trying to live his life.

Speaker 3 24:36

He runs into kate bishop which I explained on the, the last episode on a regular show, but she's like a super fan. She steals ronin's suit and stuff. People think she's ronin. Well, the uh, a girl named maya which she's completely deaf but she's learned how to fight and she can read body movements, kind of like Taskmaster. Anything she sees she can copy. If she sees some guy do some kind of special roundhouse kick or whatever, she can copy it. Like right there In the comics she becomes Ronin. So far in the show it's kind of leading to where that might be a possibility, because her quote unquote uncle is a kingpin from the Daredevil series.

Speaker 1 25:21

Wilson Fisk.

Speaker 2 25:22

Yeah, vincent Doniforia.

Speaker 3 25:25

And because of him her father gets killed. Because he's part of her, like her father is part of one of his gangs that he has throughout the city. She just doesn't realize it's because of him that he was in a gang and doing bad things. But yeah, she becomes the new Ronin and they're actually going to have a TV series called Echo coming out later on. So I'm assuming that's where the route she's going to go and become that superhero.

Speaker 1 25:46

That sounds like the premise for Huntress for DC.

Speaker 3 25:50

Yeah, kind of. They also have a guy named Jack DeQuise DeQuise. He's the swordsman which is like a super good swords fighter.

Speaker 1 26:03

Super good swords fighter. Dequise super good swords fighter. Here's my God.

Speaker 2 26:10

He's a.

Speaker 3 26:10

Neo Montoya. So far in the show Clint Barton seems to know a lot about him, but at least in the comics he was taught by this guy on how to fight with swords. He taught him how to fight with all the bladed weapons.

Speaker 2 26:21

Clint Barker did.

Speaker 3 26:23

Hawkeye was taught by the swordsman. Oh wow.

Speaker 1 26:27

When did he learn archery?

Speaker 3 26:28

He actually learned that from another guy that was in a trick shotter in the circus Interesting. Yeah why not? From another guy that was in a trick shotter in the circus Interesting the swordsman. He's also another one that could possibly be in the Thunderbolts later on.

Speaker 2 26:40

The guy who plays him is pretty funny. I like that actor.

Speaker 3 26:46

The swordsman. He also has ties in the comics at least to the Mandarin and Black Widow, also through different avenues of stories and stuff. That's going on.

Speaker 2 26:53

What is the Mandarin right now?

Speaker 1 26:56

Who is the Mandarin?

Speaker 2 26:57

Well, why?

Speaker 1 26:58

Why is the Mandarin? Who's Kaiser Soze?

Speaker 3 27:02

In the Shang-Chi movie. It's assumed that he's gone.

Speaker 2 27:05

Okay.

Speaker 3 27:05

But then his daughter takes over his Ten Rings like Assassin's Guild or whatever.

Speaker 2 27:10

So she could be the Mandarin.

Speaker 3 27:11

Possibly Okay, or there's been rumors that there might be another Mandarin.

Speaker 3 27:15

Another Mandarin, the real Mandarin out there that has like, because they think there might be two sets of rings the ones that Shang-Chi has, and then there's the ones that are like the comics, where he actually wears them and they give him power over fire earth. Though you have Eleanor Bishop, which is Kate's mom. She actually becomes Madame Mask in the comics. So far in the show she's kind of shady in some of the things she does. She's played by the. She's the one that plays in the Conjuring movies.

Speaker 1 27:57

Oh Vera Faminga.

Speaker 3 27:58

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 28:00

Wow.

Speaker 3 28:00

Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 28:01

Good job, tom. That's why I'm here, that's why they pay me the money.

Speaker 3 28:05

But she basically she's the one that orchestrates a lot of black market auctions and stuff throughout Marvel and the comics and there was a black market thing going on, but she so far seems to not have been part of it. Now she is.

Speaker 1 28:17

Dun, dun dun.

Speaker 3 28:19

But then that basically would mean that Kate's mom is a supervillain that she's going to have to stop.

Speaker 1 28:25

Family drama that's not going to pan out well at Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 28:30

And then you know, the episode just came out. But if you're listening to this, I'm just going to tell you to stop if you don't want a spoiler.

Speaker 1 28:35

This is your warning. A spoiler is about to be uttered.

Speaker 3 28:41

When Hawkeye's fighting or trying to help Kate break into Maya's apartment to get this little watch that we still don't know what its connection is, somebody starts attacking him and he thinks it's the girl Maya. When actually Kate's fighting Maya in the apartment and then come to find out it's Yelena Belova, which is the Black Widow, he gets real upset because he's like things just got serious because somebody hired a Black Widow to assassinate him.

Speaker 2 29:09

So that's kind of the reveal for that at the moment, who do you think the watch belongs to?

Speaker 3 29:16

Tony Stark there's been rumors that it's either Captain America or what was his name Thor he doesn't need a watch is Thor's Mickey Mouse watch.

Speaker 1 29:28

He got on a tour when he was on Earth the first time.

Speaker 3 29:30

I can't remember the other one, but one of them is that I think it might belong to Captain America, because nobody's really addressed In the Winter Soldier. They just said he's gone but, he's not dead. Marvel would have made that a point, or?

Speaker 1 29:44

they're saying he's gone, as in, he's old now because he went back in time and stayed back in time.

Speaker 3 29:50

But he came back, he grew up and grew up he grew up, he became a man.

Speaker 1 29:57

He was a boy who became a man, an American man.

Speaker 3 30:00

Who's to say they couldn't just de-age him with some kind of magic spell or something like that?

Speaker 1 30:04

And turn him back into Chris Evans.

Speaker 2 30:05

Yeah, hollywood does it all the time.

Speaker 3 30:10

They do it in the comics, and instead of becoming Captain America, he's the leader of SHIELD.

Speaker 1 30:14

He's like the director guy. Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 3 30:16

Nick Fury leads SWORD which is at least the new version of SHIELD. Well, sword is like the defense version or the defense force against outside threats from Earth, sh Earth, which they alluded to that in WandaVision. About this sword, base being made On the moon. No, it's like a big satellite that floats out, kind of like the Watchtower in.

Speaker 1 30:43

Justice League yeah, they built it on the moon.

Speaker 3 30:47

And then from this point on, everything I talk about is just kind of speculation from what we've seen and rumors that we've seen. But Spider-Man no Way Home. You're going to have multiple Spider-Men more than likely.

Speaker 2 30:59

Spider-People Spider-Person.

Speaker 1 31:00

Spider-Boys.

Speaker 2 31:02

You're going to have Non-binary Spider-Men.

Speaker 1 31:04

They formed their own boy band, the Spiders.

Speaker 3 31:06

You've got Tom Holland, then you've got Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, and then there's possibility. You know as popular as he is. I couldn't see why they wouldn't include Miles Morales somehow.

Speaker 1 31:18

Somehow get him because people would love to have him. They'll probably throw like a little bit like his way, just like you know. Hey, look at that, we might set up for that later. Yeah, stay tuned sports fans.

Speaker 3 31:27

I don't see why they wouldn't when they have this opportunity to at least allude to it. Then you're going to have multiple villains.

Speaker 1 31:33

Oh, Spider-Pig.

Speaker 3 31:34

At least confirmed. You have Green Goblin, dr Octopus, electro, lizard Sandman, and then somehow they'll be tied in as Vulture and Venom Scorpion. Matt Gargan is the Scorpion. He's appeared in the first movie. He was a prisoner when Vulture went to prison at the end.

Speaker 2 31:57

That's the dude from Far cry, right, yes, yeah, the definition of insanity.

Speaker 3 31:59

So they already confirmed, uh, what alfred molina is playing, doc ock willem dafoe is going to play the green goblin yes uh, jamie fox from the garfield series yes is playing electro is thomas hayden church playing sandman I don't know, and I don't know if the guy that played the lizard in the Andrew Garfield one is playing him, because I haven't seen their face close up, so I don't know if they're using the same people.

Speaker 1 32:21

I haven't heard their voice. He's got some like Welsh name.

Speaker 2 32:25

He's British. No, it's Welsh. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 32:28

When it's that many letters grouped together like that and you can't pronounce it it's welsh I mean there's a possibility they could bring the rhino into it, because he's appeared in one of the andrew garfield the job.

Speaker 1 32:37

I really hope I really hope it's not the paul giamatti in the mech suit yeah, that was the stupidest thing it was. I'll take the dude in the big gray suit with the horn on his head me and the boys um, they're making a movie called craven, called craven.

Speaker 3 32:51

Which will, I wonder you know they could tie him. Yeah, Maybe they'll allude to him. Some Morbius, you know they have that movie coming out, so.

Speaker 1 32:59

I'm excited about the Morbius movie. That actually looks really cool.

Speaker 3 33:02

Mysterio like supposedly he's dead, but with all the like you know. Cubes. Yeah, with all the cubes and all the like holograms and stuff that he put out, I wouldn't be surprised if he was still out there.

Speaker 1 33:13

Because he was one of the sinister six.

Speaker 3 33:16

Yeah, but he played by Jake Gyllenhaal and he gets shot by one of the drones when Peter Parker, speeder Parker.

Speaker 1 33:23

Speeder Parker, he's all three of you Whee.

Speaker 3 33:27

When Spider-Man dodges out of the way, he gets shot by one of the drones. But that could all have been a hologram. So, hey peter, hey peter, but uh, this will be the first time on screen that you see the multi-first like broken apart, yeah.

Speaker 3 33:41

So um they a lot of people allude that maybe dr strange isn't really dr strange in this one because his personality is so different in the trailer compared to what he normally is. People allude to mephisto and all that because there's one part where you see his what you call it house or whatever he's like frozen over. People are alluding like, oh, maybe hell froze over, mephisto escaped or something like that, but because he says some strange things, or he's Baron Mordo doing some that too.

Speaker 1 34:08

I don't know who that is yeah, yeah, see, yeah, oh yeah, he was. Yeah, see when at.

Speaker 3 34:12

Oh yeah, he was in Doctor Strange 1. He was his friend there.

Speaker 1 34:15

He was more prominent.

Speaker 2 34:16

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, the magic boots guy.

Speaker 1 34:19

The guy wearing the green.

Speaker 3 34:22

There's rumors that Daredevil might appear in the Spider-Man movie and if they go the route of trying to throw shade to get Spider-Man out of trouble from being revealed, or whatever, Matt Murdock is his attorney. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 34:35

That's what they did in the show.

Speaker 3 34:36

Well that, and in the comics Daredevil takes like, wears the Spider-Man suit. That way everybody sees Peter Parker and then they see Spider-Man, and because he's agile enough he does a couple of like swings to get out of sight and stuff. And then Ned, which is the little fat friend of Peter Parker in the movies, he's like 30. In the comics, Ned Leeds is the Hobgoblin, at least one version of him. They've seen a lot of pictures where the little kid that was Ned has gotten jacked.

Speaker 2 35:08

Really.

Speaker 3 35:09

Yeah, he's lost a lot of weight and he's pretty muscular. People are thinking that maybe that's what he's getting in shape for. We're all going to die. He becomes the hobgoblin somehow, which is basically the green goblin, but just human instead of super soldier. He still uses all the same tech. Yeah, yeah. Then you have number 10.

Speaker 1 35:32

If you stuck with us this long.

Speaker 3 35:33

we commend you 10 out of 30-something with us this long we commend you 10 out of 30, something that I have.

Speaker 1 35:39

Oh my god, all right, let's, uh, maybe break this into a parts special.

Speaker 3 35:41

Yeah, part one doctor, strange in the multiverse of madness, which it'll continue to deal with like the mess from no way home. And then you'll also have to deal with a scarlet witch or whatever she's you know, conjured up with what she's been doing, because she's you know, like I, what she's been doing Because, like I said, she's probably trying to bring back her children and the Chathun is kind of like Dormammu as far as some big entity that's super-powered. A girl has been cast as America Chavez, which is called Miss America, but basically her power is she can open portals to other realities.

Speaker 1 36:11

I thought you were going to say she was pretty. She's got super strength. Can?

Speaker 3 36:15

fly and then can travel through uh realities I want to end world hunger, so you'll have to see where that goes. Um, I'm not real sure you just I'm a lot of. It probably depends on the way.

Speaker 1 36:28

No way home goes, okay so we released any trailers or anything, have they?

Speaker 3 36:32

not yet okay, and this comes out. This is the next thing after the Spider-Man movie that's going to come out Interesting. Then you have after that in I think it was July you have Thor, love and Thunder, which you'll have. Thor, more than likely he'll relinquish Mjolnir, because Jane Foster becomes Thor and she has it, and then so he'll probably have Stormbreaker J and she has it, and then so he'll probably have Stormbreaker Jarn Bajorn, which is an axe that basically can cut anything. Isn't that the Stormbreaker thing he had from the Stormbreaker? Well, he could still have that, but he might meet Beta Ray Bill, and that's. Yes, I know it's a dumb name but, Beta Ray.

Speaker 1 37:11

Beta Ray Bill is like this he's like a side character from a Hannibal Lecter movie.

Speaker 3 37:16

Basically he's like Thor, but he's like some kind of super android thing that's like alien tech or whatever, but he's strong enough to fight with Thor.

Speaker 2 37:24

My name is Beta Ray Bill. This is Jackass, yeehaw.

Speaker 1 37:28

Welcome to Jackass.

Speaker 3 37:33

Stormbreaker is his like signature weapon, so he would probably get that. They also have the Valkyries, which they haven't really revealed. What happens to her, which she's leading Asgard at the moment?

Speaker 1 37:45

In Norway.

Speaker 3 37:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 37:47

They're doing what they can.

Speaker 3 37:49

They haven't revealed in Thor, love and Thunder what they'll do with Loki or the Guardians of the Galaxy, because Thor is technically with them at the moment. After Endgame the Asgardian to the Galaxy, and then the villain is Gorr the God Butcher, which will be Christian Bale.

Speaker 1 38:06

He snuck his way into this. Yeah God, he's letting everybody in at this point he's already casted everybody else.

Speaker 3 38:12

This character. His desire is to kill all the gods for failing to save his family when he needed it the most. So he gets the necro sword from a creature called Gnoll. It creates these what they call shadow berserkers that go and like basically, he's hunting down all the gods to kill them.

Speaker 1 38:29

Okay.

Speaker 3 38:30

With the necro sword, which is basically like just a super powerful darkness.

Speaker 2 38:36

Sword Consuming. It's the Darksaber, the new, best sword in the MCU.

Speaker 1 38:40

Pretty much the expansion pack edition Premium account. Is Michael Caine going to make an appearance at some point in any of these? Give it time.

Speaker 3 38:48

Then the next thing I have is Ms Marvel, which will be the Kamala Khan TV show, where she's like super stretchy, super stretchy. She's basically Mr Fantastic, buta girl.

Speaker 2 39:00

Okay.

Speaker 3 39:02

She's technically an inhuman in the comics, so we'll see if that ties into the show. What's?

Speaker 2 39:06

the difference between inhuman and a mutant.

Speaker 3 39:09

Mutants were born on Earth. Inhumans were genetically modified by the Kree, kind of like Captain Marvel. Oh okay, but she's friends with Carol Danvers and Monica Rambeau, so I'm sure they'll have some kind of coming together bonding experience in the show or something like that.

Speaker 1 39:26

This must be what it's like when I explain Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 39:29

Yeah, you're just going like. Pretty much. These go a little faster because there's not a lot of information. The going like pretty much. These go a little faster because there's not a lot of information. Uh, the next thing is black panther wakanda forever.

Speaker 1 39:38

You know we all did the x cross thing.

Speaker 3 39:40

We know you can't see us, but we did it, uh-huh um, the new black panther is either going to be leticia, right, or winston duke, which is shuri, or mbaku, which big dude. Mbaku is like the, the guy that wanted to challenge him, not killmonger, but the other one that was like. You know, he was the big one. I forgot what he was.

Speaker 2 39:59

I thought that Killmonger was going to come back somehow.

Speaker 3 40:02

They haven't mentioned that or seen anything about him yet.

Speaker 2 40:05

He did, though he did. He done, dadded it. But supposedly one of these two will take his place.

Speaker 3 40:12

Then there's a girl called Riri Williams, which she becomes Ironheart, which I don't know how, but somehow she inherits Tony Stark's technology. I don't know how, like I said, but she's going to have her own show later on, but I'm sure she's listed as an actor and a character in the Black Panther, so I'm assuming that's in there. They'll reveal how she gets her stuff and then she'll have her show. Then there's some rumored villains for the movie Black Panther, because in Endgame they mentioned there was a lot of unknown and they couldn't tell where they were coming from earthquakes underneath the ocean just off of Africa, which could lead to Namor and Atlantis being like the main protagonist. We're like warring countries, because they do that in the comics a lot.

Speaker 1 40:59

That's when they bring up the Submariner.

Speaker 3 41:01

Or Doctor Doom and Latveria, because they argue a lot with Wakanda, because they're like neighboring countries in the comics. Interesting.

Speaker 1 41:11

Are they really?

Speaker 3 41:11

Yeah, like because if I'm not wrong, Wakanda is like on the west side of Africa, and then Latveria is kind of leading into the Middle East.

Speaker 1 41:20

I thought it was Eastern European I know they're-. Around Russia.

Speaker 3 41:26

They're bordering countries, that's all I know. I don't know exactly where at, but I know they're bordering. So maybe it's like going into Turkey and it's the north of Africa. I can't remember, but I know they border each other. We're not well-known geographists on this show. After Black Panther, you'll have a movie called the Marvels, which will include Captain Marvel, monica Rambeau and Kamala.

Speaker 3 41:49

Khan, I'm going to skip that one, yeah and then there's something Nick Fury is going to be in that one. It's going to skip that one, yeah. And then there's something Nick Fury is going to be in that one it's going to introduce more about the sword like base that protects from the outside, like planetary stuff. Then we go on. You have Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which they're still going to be searching for Gamora, but you're going to have Adam Warlock, which the guy that's playing Adam Warlock is the guy from we're the Millers the little kid I-Rose, i-rose kid.

Speaker 3 42:15

You know the one that goes you guys are getting paid that kid. He's going to be Adam Warlock, which basically he's like the perfect being, but I don't know what his role is.

Speaker 2 42:25

Yes, I know I'm perfect. What's your superpower?

Speaker 3 42:29

I'm just perfect. But everything in the comics pretty much ties him to Thanos or the infinity gems. So I don't know what his role is going to be, because everything has been like him trying to secure the gems, protect them, keep them away from Thanos, and.

Speaker 1 42:42

but in this he's going to do a good job.

Speaker 3 42:44

Yeah, well, he wasn't made yet, wow so. But in this he's going to be sent to hunt down the guardians, because they stole that stuff in the beginning of Guardians of the Galaxy 2, when Rocket stole those like energy, battery things from them.

Speaker 2 42:57

Right.

Speaker 3 42:59

That dishonored them, so that's why they're making Adam Warlock to go after him.

Speaker 2 43:03

Okay, kill a raccoon, then you're going to have Ant-Man and the.

Speaker 3 43:06

Wasp, which is Quantumania, which is where you're going to see the first time you'll see the evil King, the Conqueror. So he's going to have some kind of time traveling to do with their stuff.

Speaker 1 43:16

In the quantum realm.

Speaker 2 43:17

Because we ache in shrinking to time traveling. Yeah, somehow.

Speaker 3 43:23

He's some kind of time manipulator. He's like a future genius. So he's got all the tech time traveling stuff. Then you have Blade. That's going to be coming out with Murshala Ali Murshala yeah, that I don't know how to pronounce it. Like I was saying earlier, he's got real strong ties to the Darkhold and you know the magic stuff. He's got a connection to the Ebony Blade, which is what Kit Harington Jon Snow guy has. Then you go on to She-Hulk, which they're going to have. Tatiana Maslany is going to be the She-Hulk, I don't know Bruce Banner is going to be in that with Mark Ruffalo.

Speaker 3 44:03

The Abomination is going to be in it You're going to have. Her villain will be Titania, which is like this, basically giant, this girl that can grow to giant sizes or not grow like not like the uh one from uh dc, but some kind of similar sort of kind of. There's a possible that daredevil cameo in that because her and daredevil, when she's normal, like they're both lawyers, so they're. You know, they've had a lot of tie-ins together as far as like comic book stuff. Okay.

Speaker 3 44:35

So we'll see where that goes. There's been rumors that you know maybe Red Hulk will appear in that as like a more villainous kind of person to deal with. Then it moves on to Moon. Knight will be the next thing to come out, will be played by Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke has an unnamed role in it. But there's rumors that Man-Wolf, Dracula and Blade will appear somehow.

Speaker 1 44:57

Man-wolf- Part man, part wolf Man-Wolf.

Speaker 2 45:04

All bad.

Speaker 3 45:06

Basically he's a werewolf. I'm assuming Ethan Hawke might end up playing somebody like Dracula.

Speaker 1 45:11

I can see that he looks like Dracula. He looks very. I don't know greasy.

Speaker 3 45:17

But moon knight is basically a more insane batman. He's got split personality disorder and so like some parts of him like it's happy-go-lucky, some are like really dark and brooding, some are psychopathic. He just kind of goes through all these mental things as he's fighting interesting. Um, then after that you have what will probably be the biggest thing besides the multiverse stuff, which is the secret invasion, where Nick Fury is going to return to the front center of this TV show that they'll have on Disney+. I would imagine because of the whole secret invasion thing, they're going to reveal that some of these characters that died or have gone missing weren't actually the characters like they're who they are led to be.

Speaker 3 45:58

Right, because there's been times like uh, I want to say it was Tony Stark was shot. They thought he was dead, or there was some major character in the comics that dies that they find out has been a scroll over like the last year or so, and I think Tony Stark was like held captive in this spaceship. So, you know, I wonder if maybe they'll start revealing that where certain characters that you thought were gone aren't really gone.

Speaker 2 46:23

So that's how Robert Downey Jr is going to get back into the money game.

Speaker 1 46:27

He just kind of waltzes back in what's up guys, I'm back.

Speaker 3 46:30

There are rumors that Chris Evans is going to return as Captain America. They said that he signed on for more Marvel movies, but he denies that. He's like oh, that's news to me, but there's been rumors that he's going to return as Captain America at some point.

Speaker 2 46:43

Okay.

Speaker 3 46:43

Or at least return to the MCU, and he's supposedly been signed on for like two or three more appearances or something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to work in Robert Downey jr. He kind of started all this well. Supposedly he's gonna be like the voice of the AI in that Ironheart show. That'll be on like he'll be the the girls AI voice like Cortana.

Speaker 1 47:02

Yeah, kind of Tony, what, what do you?

Speaker 3 47:06

want or you. He's like Kirkland Brent in the uh, in the secret invasion uh show. They're also gonna have Amelia Clark, which she's been cast in an unknown role, but I imagine she'll be Queen Varanki, which is like the queen of the Skrulls, okay, so I imagine that's what her role will be. She'll be like some kind of evil leader of them.

Speaker 2 47:25

I'm sure Ben Mendelsohn will come back from.

Speaker 3 47:28

They did mention him, but I didn't know what he was from. Like I didn't know what he was from.

Speaker 2 47:32

I hadn't seen Captain Marvel. Yeah, he was the Skrull leader in Captain Marvel.

Speaker 3 47:35

Yeah, they mentioned that he's going to be in this. I just didn't recognize what he was from because I'd never seen that one. Then you have Ironheart, which I talked about Her acquiring Tony Stark's tech. Then you have Armor Wars, which is where War Machine is going to have to go and try to hunt down all the Tony Stark's tech that has gone missing or has been misplaced because, since he's not around, people have been stealing stuff. I'm telling you, I got my own Iron man suit. Then you have the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, which will be canon. Oh God.

Speaker 1 48:05

They're pulling a.

Speaker 2 48:05

Star Wars. They have to go save Santa.

Speaker 1 48:08

It promises a canon With a kiss.

Speaker 3 48:10

It says it promises a canon debut of one of the greatest Marvel characters of all time. So, being space stuff, I'm just assuming maybe they're talking about Silver Surfer Galactus, something like that.

Speaker 1 48:21

Santa Claus. They've already introduced them in movies who, silver Surfer and Galactus.

Speaker 3 48:26

Not in the MCU. Yeah, not in the canon stuff at the moment.

Speaker 2 48:30

So yeah.

Speaker 3 48:32

Because they have a Fantastic Four movie coming out. Later on too, there's gonna be.

Speaker 1 48:36

There's a working on a Wakanda TV series okay it'll tell stories from their land how many more pages do you have?

Speaker 3 48:46

one, but it'll tell stories from their land. It'll include I think they'll need to include more main characters, mm-hmm, and I can see where they could have a Game of Thrones kind of thing going if they include Latveria and Atlantis, wakanda. Yeah, they could do something like that. Whether they will or not, I don't know, because all they know is that they've started writing and working on it. Okay, there's going to be an Akoya spinoff. What is that?

Speaker 1 49:10

Who the hell is Akoya?

Speaker 3 49:10

She's one of the guardians, like one of the guards for Black Panther. Black Panther. I don't know why she needs a spinoff.

Speaker 1 49:16

Is that the lady who plays Michonne from the Walking Dead?

Speaker 3 49:19

Yes, what If you wanted to tell her origin? You could probably do it in a flashback.

Speaker 1 49:25

I don't know why they're doing this. I want a spinoff show of the guy who finds Mark. Ruffalo Taser face when he lands on the ground after falling out of the aircraft carrying the first Avengers.

Speaker 2 49:33

He's like rough night, son. We didn't get enough Taserface background, okay yeah.

Speaker 3 49:37

Because of this I wrote down. I was like yo, why not just have a Happy Hogan series?

Speaker 2 49:41

Yeah right. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 49:43

Tony Stark's assistant here.

Speaker 3 49:44

Give him a series. Give Neil McDonough something to do. There's going to be an Agatha Harkness TV show.

Speaker 1 49:49

Why not?

Speaker 3 49:50

Evidently she escapes from the.

Speaker 1 49:52

The Twilight.

Speaker 3 49:52

Zone. I don't know what characters they would include with her.

Speaker 1 49:57

She plays a campaign manager in a town called Pawnee Indiana.

Speaker 3 50:00

You'll have the Echo series that I was talking about.

Speaker 1 50:05

That's Amy Poehler, though no when she runs for city council, or when she's going to run for higher offices with Ben or whatever.

Speaker 2 50:12

Oh, that's right, she's in there.

Speaker 3 50:14

Okay, you'll have the Echo series I was talking about, where she has ties to Hawkeye and Daredevil in the comics a lot Also Kingpin being like her, you know one of her main bad guys.

Speaker 1 50:25

And then Echo not become so?

Speaker 3 50:26

she'll probably become. No, not her. That's. Agatha Harkness Echo is the one that's in the Hawkeye series right now, but yeah, she'll probably become. Ronan and that'll be like her show. Okay, you have the what if? Season two, which will come out after that, which is, you know, it'll continue the storyline that they've been doing with the whole Ultron multiverse thing. Then they have a Marvel zombies TV show That'll be all animated.

Speaker 1 50:51

So basically season three? Yeah, basically, what a season three zombie edition? Well, yeah, basically it's just an expansion of that episode they had.

Speaker 3 51:00

They're going to have Spider-Man freshman year, which will be all animated, but it'll be how Spider-Man became Spider-Man in the MCU.

Speaker 2 51:05

Okay.

Speaker 3 51:07

Then you have the Fantastic Four, which they're doing a whole show about it. No a movie for Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1 51:13

No for Spider-Man, yeah.

Speaker 3 51:15

It's like an animated TV.

Speaker 1 51:15

They went on a field trip. He got bit by a spider. The next day he's got spider powers.

Speaker 2 51:22

Hey, we all want to see Uncle Ben die again. Okay, alright.

Speaker 1 51:25

How many times do I have to live through that?

Speaker 2 51:28

Fantastic Four, the movie.

Speaker 3 51:30

Like I said, he's got strong ties to Doctor Doom because he was created at the same time.

Speaker 1 51:34

That's the Fantastic Four. When they went to space.

Speaker 3 51:39

They got Galactus and Silver Surfer because they spent a lot of time in the comics stopping Galactus from eating the planet Fair. I imagine they'll become like the new kind of like Stark, where they're the experts on space and science.

Speaker 1 51:49

Have they confirmed if John Krasinski and Emily Blunt are going to play Reed Richards and Susan Storm?

Speaker 3 51:54

They don't have any confirmed cast stuff yet.

Speaker 1 51:56

Please, Please have them cast Chris Evans as Johnny Storm.

Speaker 3 52:02

Do it, do it, marvel, that's his movies that he's coming back for. That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 52:06

He's like I'm reprising my role and everyone's like, yeah, you're going to be Cat America.

Speaker 3 52:10

He's like nah, they have a new Avengers movie, which right now it just says New Avengers Movie. That's not the title, even though there is a title comic called New Avengers.

Speaker 1 52:19

Okay, it's a working title.

Speaker 3 52:21

All that said, they're going to have a mix of a few of the old and a lot of the new.

Speaker 2 52:25

Okay, what's next?

Speaker 3 52:27

You have Captain America 4, which it'll pick up after the Disney Plus series. Sam Wilson. Sam. Wilson, sebastian Stan. Kevin Feige said they're going to put him through the ringer. He's going to be outclassed, outmatched, outstrength and everything. So like in every movie he's been in, he's going to have to be like the underdog to fight off some of these people.

Speaker 2 52:47

Okay.

Speaker 3 52:48

And for that to be the case, I thought again. The Red Hulk could be a big person because he's military. General Ross doesn't want him to be part of it and you know, captain America's gone up against super, you know beings like that. The Red Skull could possibly return because he's still alive, he's just been away Stuck on that planet.

Speaker 3 53:06

Guarding a stone A treasure he cannot possess or it'll be him and the Winter Soldier versus the Thunderbolts which will eventually show up, where he's having to beat the whole team instead of just one of them.

Speaker 3 53:19

So that's another thing loaded, jesus. And then, lastly, I mean some of these characters, like some people that haven't appeared, that you know will probably have to appear again, or at least they will in the future, like the x-men uh, you got silver surfer galactus, a nihilist, which he has like his own kind of like. Thanos has his own like army that comes from the the negative universe and tries to basically erase the normal universe. Okay. Then you have Ghost Rider, which people have been trying to get Keanu Reeves to be Ghost Rider.

Speaker 1 53:47

I heard they're trying to get Norman Reedus in on it now.

Speaker 3 53:50

They actually have talked to him. I don't know if they've talked to Keanu Reeves. Fans are just trying to get Keanu Reeves to be Ghost Rider, Namor and Atlantis. A lot of people have been trying to get Luke Evans to be Namor the guy from Dracula. Untold, you've got the Nova Corps and Nova Prime. They kind of alluded to them in the first Guardians movie because, they were the Nova Corps.

Speaker 3 54:13

Well, nova Prime is basically. They take all the power that they had into one being and he becomes like this one guy to go out and fight. Okay. The Inhumans which they had. The Fox. Tv show yeah, that was really bad, but they could go on for that, the Shi'ar and Imperial Guard, which they're tied a lot to the X-Men, because they're the ones that try to stop the Phoenix Force, but they're the ones that have Gladiator and Melandra, if you know who they are.

Speaker 2 54:40

Nope.

Speaker 3 54:41

You got Punisher, which Jon Bernthal. He said he would love to come back, but he doesn't want to come back as a watered-down version, so if they can, let him come back. R-rated still.

Speaker 1 54:49

And be violent.

Speaker 3 54:50

Yeah, he said he'd gladly do it Daredevil. I wrote this and then I saw that they actually confirmed that Charlie Cox is going to reprise his role as Daredevil.

Speaker 1 54:57

It's the guy from the TV show, right yeah?

Speaker 3 54:58

Okay, then you got Sentry, which Sentry and Hyperion are kind of like Superman, it's not? Like Pokemon.

Speaker 3 55:06

Go Hyperion, use water cannon. Both of them could show up and be part of it. I mean, depending on if they don't have big heavy hitters, they need some people. Then you have the ultimates, which it's a possibility they could be a thing which they deal with stuff out in space, because you have spectrum which is going to be in this or in the mcu. You've got captain marvel and then you've got miss america, which they're. Those are three of like the five members well from beauty pageant contestant to superhero uh, black panther is actually part of it.

Speaker 3 55:35

And then there's a guy called Blue Marvel, which he's like a slave from the 1800s that gained these superpowers, and he fights for justice.

Speaker 2 55:45

Dipped out. Okay, all right, so there's a lot.

Speaker 3 55:50

Well then you've got the Brood. Which are these aliens? They're kind of like the Flood they just take over and infest people. And then, lastly, mephisto, which everybody assumed was going to be in WandaVision.

Speaker 2 56:00

So what is the timeline for all this? It's all Jack.

Speaker 3 56:06

I know through Fantastic Four, all this stuff is planned between now and, I think, 2024?.

Speaker 2 56:11

Jeez. So they got, because, let's see, they got a TV show about Nick Fury planned in 2024. We don't know if Samuel Jackson is going to be alive in 2024.

Speaker 3 56:21

Everything leading up to Secret Invasion. So Moon Knight and back like She-Hulk, blade, ant-man, guardians of the Galaxy 3, all that's planned within the next three years for sure. The rest of this they're kind of working on. I don't have exact release dates for the rest of it.

Speaker 2 56:37

All right. Well, it sounds like there's going to be a busy couple years for the MCU, but I mean Between movies and TV shows.

Speaker 3 56:47

That's a lot of content, yeah.

Speaker 2 56:49

I feel like they're trying to have. So there's always something coming out.

Speaker 1 56:52

There's something Marvel-related. The story is still going on somewhere Within a week or a month. So yeah, it's like this one ended. Hey, in a month New show.

Speaker 3 57:04

You got Spider-Man out and then Dr Strange comes out in March. The Thor movie comes out in either May or July, then you'll have the Ms Marvel show that comes out sometime next year. Moon Knight is supposed to come out next year. Black Panther they're still working on because it got delayed, because the girl got hurt doing some of the stunts, and then the rest of that. There's no definitive dates for the rest of it.

Speaker 2 57:33

Wow, that is quite the special Mitch. I feel like I've learned so much about MCU. That is quite the special Mitch. I feel like I've learned so much about MCU. Again, I find it very hard to stay invested because I don't care. Well, it's hard to care when they don't have direction. Like Endgame felt like the end.

Speaker 1 57:52

Yeah, Endgame was a definitive bookend into a story that I was being told.

Speaker 2 57:56

How are they going to keep it going and how are they going to top Endgame?

Speaker 3 57:59

Well, to me it seems like they've got their hands in too many cookie jars. You've got magic, You've got other dimensions. You've got other timelines.

Speaker 1 58:08

You've got space, you've got space crap.

Speaker 2 58:12

Kevin Feige must just like I don't know he must poop diamonds. He's just so stressed, just compressing all of his stress into film gold.

Speaker 3 58:25

Being a big superhero fan, I'm excited to see all of it. I might not like all of it, but I'll at least give it a try.

Speaker 1 58:30

Okay, and there you have it, folks, mitch's upcoming Marvel news and nonsense per your suggestions.

Speaker 2 58:38

Hopefully you at least heard something that, if you didn't understand it, you could figure out where to Google at this point.

Speaker 1 58:43

Yeah, if you now suddenly have a drinking problem, please call the following number. It'll be listed at the end of this episode.

Speaker 3 58:49

If you have a question, just message me on the Facebook, and if I don't know it, I'll look it up.

Speaker 1 58:53

Yeah message Mitch specifically, though we want to emphasize that I'll give you an answer.

Speaker 2 58:59

It won't be right.

Speaker 1 59:00

It'll be text Mitch. That'll be my answer, and stay tuned for when the Lord of the Rings TV show comes out for my hour-long rant of anger and frustrations.

Speaker 3 59:10

Oh, you'd be angry, Tom.

Speaker 1 59:12

You know they're going to F it up. You know they're going to destroy it.

Speaker 2 59:16

All right. All right, that is a special which is longer than our last episode. So good job, Mitch. All right, that's it. Goodbye from.

Speaker 1 59:23

Tom Mitch and Hayden.

Speaker 3 59:25

Bye, bye, all right, take a look at this Jesus so much marble, I told you I was going to sit down and wrote all this stuff out. It's all good. The last two days we're moving like everything up until.