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ET! Throwback: From Powerpuff Girls to Ballers: Nostalgia and Tough Video Game Bosses

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Ever wondered how three super-powered little girls with a distinctive lack of fingers try to save the world from evil monkeys and box office flops? We're kicking off with a nostalgic look at the 2002 Powerpuff Girls movie, pondering how post-9/11 content changes may have altered its portrayal of destruction. We dive into the evolution of Cartoon Network and joke about the peculiarities of our childhood heroes, while also reflecting on why this animated flick struggled to connect with audiences. Join us as we humorously navigate through these childhood memories and the subtle art of turning beloved TV cartoons into movies.

Next up, we tackle the flashy world of HBO's "Ballers," starring the surprising Denzel Washington lineage of John David Washington. With Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson leading the charge, we explore the lavish lifestyle of NFL players who somehow manage to blow through millions—even when buying exotic animals like they’re groceries. This chapter is filled with both humorous and serious insights into the world of professional sports, wrapped in a package of laughter and financial cautionary tales. Expect some amusing tales about our social media shenanigans and how we aim to conquer Twitch, one modest gaming video at a time.

Our video game segment takes you on a wild ride through boss battles that have haunted us for years. From Mortal Kombat to Street Fighter, we're reliving those intense moments when strategy and sheer perseverance were the only ways to triumph. We share our top ten hardest bosses and invite you to join in the fun as Mitch endures movie punishments suggested by you, our dear listeners. Rounding off with a look at upcoming game adaptations and the future of DLC, this episode blends nostalgia, humor, and genuine insights into a concoction perfect for movie buffs, TV enthusiasts, and gaming aficionados alike.

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Speaker 1:

Hello, Welcome To Entertain this, a podcast about movies, TV shows and video games. This is episode 21.

Speaker 2:

We're finally legal age.

Speaker 1:

We can drink now and I'm Hayden With me. I have Mitch and Tom.

Speaker 2:

You okay.

Speaker 1:

It's a. You don't have your inhaler.

Speaker 2:

Be careful, it's like a rubber chicken, got like a ran over Squeakers from Toy Story 3.

Speaker 1:

We broke the Mitch trend of being punished last week.

Speaker 3:

Finally.

Speaker 1:

With me being punished. So there is no justice in this world, because Tom is owed At least six weeks in a row.

Speaker 3:

I think that sounds fair.

Speaker 1:

I got punished by watching Powerpuff Girls the movie.

Speaker 2:

How was it?

Speaker 3:

It was all right, how was it?

Speaker 1:

Buttercup, it was all right, bubbles. So I guess it was like an origin story based off of the TV show that came out after the TV show and from what I read, they tried to like make it so people could. I guess parents would enjoy the show like the kids would, and the thing is is that I don't see that happening. As a parent, you did not enjoy it. I mean, I remember watching the show when I was a kid. It was like 98 when it came out. Yeah, it was the late 90s.

Speaker 3:

It aired with Dexter's Laboratory and all that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was the last Hanna-Barbera cartoon, like sanctioned Hanna barbara, because, uh, the the hannah guy was a died yeah, it was over at that point, and then cartoon network went through some like uh reconstruction at that point yeah, they changed the logo from, like you know, where it said cartoon network and the alternating black and white colors. That I remember.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but the last good kind of cartoons to just crap, crap now yeah well, I mean, there was like cartoon network, that format, and then, like toonami, would come on afterwards that was it and it had like the spaceship and like the guy with like the helmet and like the robot dude and it's just like yeah so like they talked about, because craig mccracken, which is a cool last name, that is a a cool name but he created the show. He actually did shorts for it back in 92 and got picked up from Caltech to Hanna-Barbera to do Powerpuff Girls and I guess it was more an adult cartoon when he conceived it and then when he made the show and stuff, they they obviously scaled down for kids and everything. Um, and it changed drastically after 9-11. Like is it before 9-11?

Speaker 1:

it was like skyscrapers being destroyed and stuff like that you know, all sorts of stuff, and then in the movie they actually had that um skyscrapers being destroyed, sometimes by the powerpuff girls themselves, and uh, the uh uh, I think roper ebert roger ebert and ropert. They reviewed it and said there's too many similarities for a kid's movie with 9-11, all that kind of stuff. It's a kid's movie it's a cartoon.

Speaker 2:

Whatever they don't have fingers, it's a cartoon of super powered people fighting. I don't know they make that joke like like what are those? Like things at the edge at the end of your hand, and the guy's like fingers because they don't have. It's just like a you know a smooth nub, but they could just pick stuff up at home, how holding guns floating in the air or something I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But uh, pick stuff up at home, how holding guns floating in the air, something I don't know. But uh, so gee it, uh it it did all right, you know it. Well, actually, it it cost 11 million to make and for the movie, yeah, wow, and yeah, it cost it. I, I have some questions, but uh, yeah, it only made 16.4 in box office, so it was considered a failure because it needs to make 22 in order to break even. But it was 73 minutes long and it just felt like a really long episode of Powerpuff Girls. But everything that happened, you knew it was going to happen because, I don't know, everybody knows the powerpuff girls are made from sugar, spice and everything nice and chemical and chemical x professor. But uh, you know they. They spent 30 minutes explaining all that, which is in the first five seconds of the intro to the powerpuff girls theme song isn't it like an hour and a half movie?

Speaker 3:

73 minutes okay, yeah, just just just clarifying why, well, because if they spent 30 minutes on that, and if it's only an hour and a half and it's took 11 million, just three episodes cost 73 minutes.

Speaker 1:

It's it's an hour and 13 minutes long yeah, yeah, roughly, but I mean feature length is technically supposed to be 90 minutes, but it's a cartoon, but would three episodes cost $11 million to make?

Speaker 3:

No, no, not even close, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I guess they probably spent a lot of money. I don't know where they would spend all that money at.

Speaker 2:

That's the same voice actor right yeah At that time cartoon movies were kind of becoming the big thing because Rugrats did the movie and that was big. I think Wild Thornberries did one, did they really? Yeah, I think it was just kind of like oh, we're gonna do a Powerpuff Girls movie too but usually get in on that gravy train.

Speaker 1:

When you have a cartoon show that breaks out enough to have a feature film, they get, like some A-list celebrities, to do voices like the. The Twilight, not Twilight. My Little Pony had what's her name from A Quiet Place.

Speaker 2:

Emily Blunt Emily.

Speaker 1:

Blunt, she was in that movie and stuff like that, but no, it was just all the voice actors from the show.

Speaker 2:

Might be weird to replace all the voices with actors.

Speaker 1:

No, they didn't Like. For the my Little Pony movie, they brought in a special new character just to have this. You know a list celebrity be a part of it. I didn't do anything like that.

Speaker 2:

Sean Connery to like play the mayor. Powerpuff girls. This monkey is destroying the city well, so anyways, the, the.

Speaker 1:

The plot is the girls are created and Professor Utonium is trying to get them, like you know, acclimated to a normal life, and they play, tag and destroy all of Townsville.

Speaker 3:

So they do the opposite of their design.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and like it's funny because the mayor doesn't care that the town's being destroyed until his pickle stand gets destroyed. And so he goes to their house, the Professor Utonium, and he holds out pictures of little chalk outlines for pickles on the ground and stuff like that and he's like you know, look at all the travesty they've created. You're the little terrorists and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

My pickles His pickles.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the only thing he cares about. But I mean, yeah, yeah, I can see it, it's pretty cool. So, like, yeah, it was, you know, pretty lengthy Because, like, after they play tag, Mojo Jojo becomes powerful enough to Well, no, he convinces the girls to help him build his secret lair, which is on top of a volcano in the middle of this town, by the way.

Speaker 3:

Volcano in the middle of town, okay.

Speaker 1:

And once he builds it he gets a bunch of Chemical X, abducts a bunch of monkeys from the zoo Thousands of monkeys it's a big zoo, I guess and then gives them Chemical X so they become smart. And then this monkey infestation takes over Townsville and then the Powerpuff Girls beat them all up.

Speaker 2:

So this is like the kids' Powerpuff Girl crossover with Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 1:

They did make a lot of Planet of the Apes references. It was kind of funny Because one of the girls is like get your hands off of them. You dang dirty ape. They want to go apes together. Strong. They did, you know, say mojo jojo's did say I am now the king of the planet of the apes. So you know there's stuff like that, but anyways, uh, there's some adult references, like one of the monkeys is a baboon and he gets in this giant baboon mech suit and he's a big shiny red butt?

Speaker 1:

no, no, he has a cannon for a butt and his metal hand would reach back there and grab bombs that come out of the butt and throw them at the Powerpuff.

Speaker 2:

Girls.

Speaker 1:

So I'm watching this with my kids and my wife Me and my wife just look at each other. You know stuff like that. There's a couple situations where we're like, whoa kids, don't look, you know stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

There's a couple situations where like whoa, but uh whoa, kids don't look.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's too late, don't get any ideas uh, but you know, this movie, uh helped, blossomed for a lack of a better term. There's a thing for that, isn't it? Oh yeah, another thing, I don't know, we don't. We might have a, but uh, they're there, lauren Faust she was storyboard artist for this movie.

Speaker 1:

She ended up doing my Little Pony and Foster's Home for imaginary imaginary friends and stuff like that. So, like you know, this spawned a bunch of uh, big time cartoons that kind of picked off and took. It took off and so you know I wouldn't say it's like a worthless movie and it wasn't horrible. I'm not great. I'm not happy that I watched it.

Speaker 3:

I'm not it's not your new weekend.

Speaker 1:

Kids enjoy it uh, my daughter didn't, my 11 year old daughter.

Speaker 1:

She was like this is weird they have hands, yeah but my son thought it was funny whenever, honestly, for the movie there was less, not a lot of action, it was. There was hardly any fight scenes, like I think maybe at the very end there was a fight scene and uh, but like when they were just running around beating the crap out of all these monkeys, he was cracking up like crazy. So that was the one part he liked that part girls beating up monkeys.

Speaker 2:

Super smart, advanced monkeys. Yeah, he's like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's laughing, but, like you know, as far as like animation or so, they might have some cg and stuff here and there, but I don't really know why it was enjoyed it yeah, I don't know why it was $11 million, so I gave it a five. I could care less if it ever existed. And you know I'm not like miserable for watching it, so right down the middle.

Speaker 2:

It's a thing.

Speaker 1:

You know your kids probably won't like it because surprisingly enough, it's not ADD.

Speaker 3:

I would say it's not dumbed down like today's cartoons, it's not as quick as today.

Speaker 1:

What's funny is I was reading some of the production notes and Craig McCracken, the creator for it, said that Cartoon Network actually wanted them to produce a more adult version of the Powerpuff Girls to help cater to more of the adult audience. And then Cartoon Network went under the regime change and they told no.

Speaker 1:

So for the hundredth time, yeah, so uh, yeah, it would have been completely different for the movie. Instead, now it's just like a giant episode, and he talked about his creative process. He said, basically we wrote an episode and then made it 73 minutes long and I was like, yeah it makes sense there's a lot of just like montages and stuff you know, just to fill time.

Speaker 2:

Well, you can solve anything with an 80s montage.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

In this case an early 2000s montage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel like kids'.

Speaker 2:

Cartoons today are just dumbed down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because my year and a half old, my year-and-a-half-old niece was over at my house the other day and they had the TV on and I was just sitting there. I was like this is like torture. Is this what the CIA plays to people? I'm like this is horrible.

Speaker 3:

A lot of kids' shows nowadays, unless it's like a certain niche of things it's just like random acts of violence.

Speaker 2:

There's not even random acts of violence anymore.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not even like full-on violence like tom and jerry, it's just like stupid stuff, like you know he, you know they slam the door and it hits him in the face or something like that. It's like I don't know. Yeah, well, okay, so there's like different age groups of kids, shows and like uh, like the show that my daughter watches now is shiro the, the modern one, you know, not the crappy one that you got punished with, but um the uh, and there's some violence and stuff here and there, but it's very like, I wouldn't say like epic, but it's like, you know, like there's reason behind it. It's not like Tom and Jerry or something like that Mindless nonsense.

Speaker 1:

But shows definitely don't have any attempt at appealing to an adult audience. You know like, uh, the extras, laboratory and stuff like that. There's any window and things that that, were an adult, would watch and be like laughing for a completely different reason than a kid would.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if that's better or worse.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I'm not. I'm not too familiar with that kind of production stuff, but uh, maybe it's just time for the kids to watch TV and me to go mow the lawn, or something like that.

Speaker 2:

That's what they really did. It's just an excuse for you to be like I'm not going to watch this. I'm going to go find something else to do.

Speaker 1:

Probably I do like shows that the family can watch together and enjoy together. There's very few shows that are like that, though nowadays Very much so. Alright, well, there you go. There's my punishment review. You sound? There's my punishment review.

Speaker 2:

You sound so happy done. Hey, at least it was a movie, it wasn't a video game. It wasn't soda drinker pro no it wasn't samurai cop.

Speaker 1:

No, samurai cop felt like hours that movie was awesome just hours of watching.

Speaker 3:

This felt long for 73 minutes, but it ended so samurai cop was awesome just because I got to watch you react to it as you watched it. I'm getting nauseous Sometimes that's the best part.

Speaker 2:

It's just like this movie is so bad, but someone else suffering and you enjoying it is what makes it funny.

Speaker 3:

He was so miserable. It was funny All right, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Punishment review done. Mitch plug that social stuff.

Speaker 2:

Plug it, macho man. Randy Savage Savage.

Speaker 3:

All right, we have our Buzzsprout. You can go to entertainthis on our Buzzsprout website. We have our Instagram, which is entertainthis. On Twitter, we're at thisentertain. Patreoncom is slash entertainthis. And then we have our Facebook group, which is Facebook.

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Facebook, which is Facebook by the way it is on Facebook.

Speaker 2:

All right John Madden.

Speaker 3:

Entertain this podcast, which is a Facebook group, and then we have our Facebook page, which is just entertain this what's?

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our MySpace. Just entertain this we have an angry one called Go, entertain Yourself.

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You talk about. It's like our Facebook group is on Facebook and I was like all right, booger McFarland. It's like on Monday Night Football. You see the runner, he had the football and he crossed the goal line, which means they scored a touchdown and a touchdown means you scored points.

Speaker 3:

Thanks for explaining the rules.

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Football's not like soccer, okay.

Speaker 2:

There's not a lot of times a foot and the ball are involved, except when the kicker kicks it or punts Tom Tom, hello Twitch. Entertain, underscore this on Twitch.

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Yep, and how much content do we have for that right now?

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One video. No, all the stuff that we did is on there on clips. So if you go deep into the page not that deep you just got to click, like two things. But you'll see a whole bunch of nonsense. There's one highlight of the game we won. We've won several, but we haven't filmed them, hopefully we'll put them you just got that pen and you broke it. I didn't mean to.

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Hopefully we'll have some YouTube videos. Everything you touch, you break.

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It's okay, I lost it too. It fell off.

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What Some cheap pens. Yeah, they were a dollar, we'll get some, some YouTube videos of the Twitch feeds and hopefully some compilations, and you can actually see us win. I mean, it has happened.

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We have video evidence. Oh, we do. Yeah, we have the one we won.

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Oh, okay, and I've got a lot of clips of us winning.

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I think you recorded the second one we won, I don't know.

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We're talking about.

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Call of Duty who participate and those who don't. I'm watching. Start working. There's 50-something of you to 70-something of you that look at every post. Somebody comment.

Speaker 2:

Like the people that drive by a car accident and they just kind of glance and go, oh jeez.

Speaker 3:

See a family burning in the car and go oh well, that's not my problem.

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The 10 of you who jumped out and helped. Thank you, the rest of you. What I don't get?

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is we put these polls out and say, hey, click on this which you think is the best one. You just got to click once you look at it, you looked. You saw, Just click random Sure.

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Just scroll, just click something, scroll, go pick one that you've heard of or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, instead of just 80 people just being like I can't be bothered by clicking right now I can't, I can't go like this how do I click away from this?

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how do I get out of here?

Speaker 1:

yeah all right, there is our intro to include social and twitch and the punishment review. Let's move on TV news and reviews today. No, and I watched.

Speaker 3:

I reviewed the movie or the TV show Ballers.

Speaker 2:

Why are you talking like that?

Speaker 3:

Because y'all are making funny voices, so I figured I'd join in. All right, ballers, ballers.

Speaker 1:

This is about a People with balls, and they juggle them. I was trying to think of something more clever.

Speaker 2:

This isn't that kind of show.

Speaker 3:

Anyways, it's an HBO show that had the rock John Washington, which is Denzel Washington's son.

Speaker 1:

We talked about this guy. There were like three episodes for Tenet because he's the main dude in Tenet. Not once did we ever mention he was Denzel Washington. I did some research on him and I kept seeing pictures of him with Denzel Washington and I was like, oh cool, he's got like a, he's got like a mentor or something, and I never put it together John Washington, denzel.

Speaker 3:

Washington.

Speaker 1:

And so I googled it and he John Washington.

Speaker 2:

Denzel Washington, and so I Google it he's his father. The math equations are left in front of your face.

Speaker 3:

This means something that makes sense now, okay, but the Rock plays this former NFL player who becomes, like, the finance manager of these players. He's probably two years removed from leaving the NFL. Okay, well, you find out now, he's probably two years removed from leaving the NFL. Okay, well, you find out now he's he's in some money trouble and somehow he becomes the finance manager just because of his connections with other players. Uh, rob, how do you say court Cordry?

Speaker 1:

the bald dude from hot tub time machine.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah he, uh, he's the, the guy that hires the rock to be his uh assistant in this. What are you doing?

Speaker 1:

the structural integrity of this chair I'm calling into question if you fall out, that'll be your new intro on a loop forever but, uh, anyways, he hires the rock to be his assistant in this finance manager position.

Speaker 3:

Well, they go on like John Washington is a made-up star called Ricky Jarrett, which this all takes place in what you know is the real world. They just introduce these couple other players for the show, right, but it revolves around, you see, people like Antonio Brown, deshaun Jackson, which I know? These names mean nothing to me. Is Antonio Brown like as?

Speaker 2:

batshit crazy as he is now.

Speaker 3:

I know I said it, but uh, no, this was like 2015. I liked it, but uh, I mean, they just they go on and there's a lot of crazy stuff that you see that you would expect these NFL players to probably spend money on this stupid stuff, like riding a camel into a training day. Are there OTAs for?

Speaker 2:

training.

Speaker 3:

So it's funny to see the rocks parallel between theirs. He knows oh yeah, you can spend all this money on the clubs and stuff. There's one instance where this guy spends a million dollars on one role in Vegas and when he loses it his friend just falls down. So I mean, it's pretty.

Speaker 2:

And like people are surprised that they're broke and they're out of the NFL. And that's what he's living in like a car, like two years later.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's what the Rock's character and Rob's character is trying to influence on these people. Rob's character is trying to influence on these people. It's like you know this money doesn't last forever. Invest it in something that's a lot better.

Speaker 2:

Like million-dollar rolls in Vegas.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's something to be said about these like podunk kids that come out of like crappy places in America and then they're just thrusted into the top 1% of the economy and they don't know what a six-figure bank account looks like, let alone a seven-figure bank account.

Speaker 2:

Or making seven figures a year, if not more.

Speaker 3:

In the very first episode, the Rock has this quote that he tells some of the other players Don't put your money in anything that depreciates Cars, houses, women, women.

Speaker 2:

Just ask Antonio Rodgers-Cromartie, yeah.

Speaker 3:

He tries to influence on these people not to do these things and at the same time the Rock, like throughout this series he's dealing with like pain management because from his time in the NFL he's racked up like migraines and like back and hip issues and stuff and so he kind of has this addiction to pain pills because he refuses to acknowledge that he needs to have corrective surgeries and stuff done.

Speaker 1:

So it is the whole like chewing vikin and like a skittles thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and then, without going too much into it, I don't want to reveal too much, but you know he's got his friends that are always, you know, getting new contracts from different players, getting new offers throughout the season, stuff to be traded or whatever, and it's pretty good. It's seeing the, the other side of nfl sports, or like what, what the effects are after in the nfl for some of these players, because I mean, it's not a show I thought I would have been interested in, even though I like football and even even brandon or even yeah I've been.

Speaker 1:

He watches it at work and so I, you know, when I'm not busy, I watch it too and it's actually not that bad. It's kind of fascinating how crazy people can be. The episode where, like, they're trying to get one dude to sign to their agency or whatever so they can represent them financially uh they, they basically need to cater to whatever his whim is to try and help him win, you know, sign. And he decides that he's like, needs a man's pet or something like that. So they go and they try to. They go to the zoo to try and buy him like a lion or a tiger, or and he decides that he needs a man's pet or something like that, so they go to the zoo to try and buy him a lion or a tiger or something like that.

Speaker 3:

No, he wants a friend, an animal, a lifelong companion and his best friend says he needs a man's pet so he goes behind his back to buy him something.

Speaker 1:

Right and he gets an alpaca on accident. That's what they could end up getting is a llama.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they went to this exotic zoo and everything's been alpacas yeah well, or an exotic animal at the zoo they already had, like they had like panthers and elephants, and all these people were like, oh well, these are already been claimed by these other players. So he's like this is what we got left, so yeah it's, it's goofy stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

It's it's they take a lot of stuff serious, which is, I mean, some of this stuff is pretty serious. You know things to happen in the world, but then they throw this little comedic spin on it with little little instances here and there, which makes a very enjoyable show yeah, it's funny, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1:

I didn't think I would I I actually enjoyed it I'd probably give it like a seven, yeah I mean, I don't know, I might rate it higher, just Maybe 7.5. Just because I do not like that subject matter. Yeah you don't like sports. Pretty fast and it's not a lot about sports, it's mostly about just money.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the money side of everything I would say very rarely Of people who are employed.

Speaker 1:

It's like if Wall Street was funny, like the movie Wall Street was funny it would be like that. It'd be funny, it'd be like that.

Speaker 3:

I mean a lot of times you just see them practicing. It's kind of like a Blue Mountain State you never actually see them play a game?

Speaker 2:

Are they taking actual teams?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's all real life. And then they just add in three or four quote-unquote players that are for the show.

Speaker 1:

It's set in Miami and a lot of it's about some players who play for the Dolphins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

Cool.

Speaker 3:

Move on to my news. Amazon is going to have a TV series about Fallout.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 3:

They said that they're not sure exactly what the subject matter will be. Because they said they're not sure Bethesda knows what Fallout is supposed to be.

Speaker 1:

That's fair, because it changes so much All right, I've known that there's been talks of a TV show for Fallout for a long time and I think that if you're going to do a video game, live action adaptation. A TV show is probably the best way to go about it.

Speaker 1:

Because, when they write for video games, they basically they basically have a tv show's worth of material that can expound, seasons worth, and, yeah, some games, and that they can expound for as much as you want to, and you can cut away as much as you need to, and to do that for a movie it's pretty stupid.

Speaker 2:

But for a tv show, though, you can you can streamline that well, these games have too much plot to make it into one movie.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's what I was fixing to say For a game like this. There's so much in it that you would need more time than just an hour and a half two hours to explain what's going on.

Speaker 1:

Do you know who's got the rights to make the TV show?

Speaker 3:

I just know it's Amazon. Okay, amazon, okay, yeah, we'll see they've announced it but, like I said, they don't. They don't really have a whole lot of uh info on what's going to be, who's going to be in it, or anything getting pretty big on this, some making tv shows well, they want to be.

Speaker 1:

They want, I mean they're. What's the biggest show they got right now?

Speaker 3:

grand tour man well, that's not even going anymore. They have, they have the jack ryan show, they have probably jack ryan is the biggest one, I'd say what's the? Oh, the Boys, the Boys and then there's some other show where I can't remember where it is, but she's like putting in some kind of red content like Homelander or Homeland or something like that.

Speaker 1:

My wife and her friends are obsessed with that marvelous Miss Mabel show.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that show. Yeah, that show's pretty funny. I didn't know that was on there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so, yeah, it's got some shows. I think it has a lot that strike out. There's some that I can't even think of right now. But yeah, Fallout. Yeah, Bethesda not knowing what it is, that's probably a good point. I guess Bethesda would have probably creative control over how the show is to be interpreted in live action. I wouldn't just which, honestly, I don't know if that's a good idea. I mean, typically, I would be like the source material needs to be created and controlled by the source guy, but Bethesda has screwed up Fallout.

Speaker 2:

Fallout 76? Yeah, look at you.

Speaker 1:

You know Fallout wasn't originally a Bethesda IP. It was. I can't remember the name of the company, but it was those old isometric DOS games. Well, it wasn't DOS, I don't think, but it was for PC until Fallout 3. Fallout 3 was the first Bethesda.

Speaker 3:

And also I found out for Netflix Stranger Things. They said you know, we have season four coming out, supposed to be later on this year. They've resumed filming for it. Um, they said they. I think they said they'd gotten two weeks into filming before everything got shut down. Well, now they're saying that they're going to do this season and they said that there's a possibility they're probably going to add at least one more season and that'll be the final one I think it's about time for that show to wrap up they said that originally they had written it for three seasons and then they moved it to four.

Speaker 3:

Well, now they're saying that more than likely it's, it's going to go to a fifth season, if you uh the the creators of the show have online.

Speaker 1:

You can review their their pitch packet that they took to netflix and stuff like that and all the materials they had. The show was called something else back back in the day, um, before they got picked up and it was made for just one season, I think originally. Yeah, I don't know if they ever planned it going any further than that, but uh, yeah, it's pretty cool just to see you know what it was in its origin. So cool, all right. Well, I guess that does it for a tv show right well, I was gonna.

Speaker 3:

I was going to say on Netflix, the show the Order is supposed to come out on the 10th. So if anybody wants to discuss that after this episode airs, we can discuss that on Facebook about the Netflix show See what people think, because it'll be out by the time this airs.

Speaker 2:

When you said the Order, I'm just picturing a dude trying to order something at McDonald's.

Speaker 3:

My bad and Dan, not the order what's? The one with Shirley Stairn.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I talked about that, the old guard.

Speaker 3:

The old guard, yes, the old guard comes out July 10th.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this episode will be airing after that. We'll go live after that.

Speaker 3:

So they'll have a little bit of time to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

You can tell us what you think?

Speaker 1:

about it. There you go, yeah, yeah, all right, cool. That does it for TV shows, tom. Hello, what have you for us?

Speaker 2:

Nothing, oh okay, moving on, all right For my review. I watched Guns Akimbo, a 2019 New Zealand film starring Daniel Radcliffe.

Speaker 3:

On drugs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, on his inhaler. Yeah, he was definitely not Daniel Sadcliffe, he was Daniel Radcliffe. He was pretty rad yeah. That was where I was going to go with that joke.

Speaker 1:

We all watched this movie.

Speaker 2:

I did not know. You guys saw it until earlier when I told you this was my review and you're like we both saw it. I was like oh, yeah, all right. It's all right it was. I mean it was okay, I liked it. It's kind of goofy it was goofy, it was a little silly, little video game humor you know, I think it was what I expected it to be. When I looked at the you know the picture for the movie like a little description.

Speaker 2:

And just crazy, daniel radcliffe daniel out of his mind cliff with these two guns. And then I was watching the movie. I was like, oh, they surgically implanted. So for those of you who don't know what this movie is about without pulling a spoilers, mcgee Daniel Radcliffe plays a loser His life sucks.

Speaker 2:

He's an online internet troll who trolls, trolls, and there's this other group called Schism, who basically do murder-death battles and stream it and be able to love it because that's what the people want to see. They're following around with drones and there's these interesting characters and they do little video game pop-up stuff on the people watching it. They cut to the same group of people watching this the whole time and this is over days, yeah. The guys are wearing the same stuff. They're at the same place, just knew like oh my god looking at the phones and cheering and getting drunk and what have?

Speaker 1:

that was kind of funny cuz like did cut to random people watching it and they'd be like the goofiest yeah there's like some guys at a bar.

Speaker 2:

There's another dude just like by himself at a bar, then there's like four dudes in a locker room just wearing underwear yeah like what's going every time they cut it, never address.

Speaker 1:

Like the.

Speaker 2:

Like the guy's just like sitting there and the other dude's just behind him getting dressed the entire movie. It never happens. I'm sorry to spoil that. He never puts clothes on.

Speaker 3:

Well, what I don't understand is, if they're, this is all. All these people know about it, all these people see it online.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, trying to find these people, but they're like one step ahead. So, danny, he goes onto their website in the beginning of the movie, trolls the people on there, and then the admin people are just like hey, you're talking nonsense. And he's like I get out of here. They send him his IP address and he's like huh, any, close his laptop, like that'll solve that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's just kind of like forgets about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so they show up at his house, drug him, him, knock him out surgically, implant two 1911s into his hands and an ammo counter, because he has 50 rounds for both, which? Is a lot, which is ridiculous because a 1911 holds seven.

Speaker 3:

There's some kind of little blocky thing at the bottom.

Speaker 2:

I'm assuming, holds the rest of the ammo and some very intricately designed magazine.

Speaker 1:

I like the ammo counter. It was kind of like Scott Pilgrim in certain circumstances.

Speaker 2:

Something like that, like Hardcore Henry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it had an anime cutaway where he would shoot a guy and the ammo counter would pop up off the screen and stuff like that. So it was pretty fun. The art and nuance of all that was pretty cool. Uh, you know, I think like when it tried to take itself seriously it was it never.

Speaker 1:

Should have it never tried so there's some, and maybe there was some message I think they're trying to say something about like people are obsessed with social media or entertainment or something, because he makes a joke about it where he's like going down the.

Speaker 2:

He's like this is the first time I haven't been walking around without staring at my phone. He's like everything looks so HD yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well then you have the woman that's hunting the entire time.

Speaker 1:

Samara Weaving yeah.

Speaker 3:

She looks like a cavewoman without those eyebrows and she does so much drugs. That's the thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's just doing cocaine off of guns All the entire movie.

Speaker 3:

She's like shouldn't you OD by now? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Did you look in the production of this movie?

Speaker 2:

No I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I watched this movie several hours ago. I think they've been trying to make this movie for years.

Speaker 2:

There was some controversy about it when I was scrolling through its Wikipedia page, but they made it anyway.

Speaker 1:

Okay, what is the controversy? Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 2:

All right, there was a tab that said controversy. It was like a paragraph. I read it at like 3 o'clock in the morning and then I just started watching the movie. All right, well, hey, maybe we'll. I was not, you know, controversed while I was watching this.

Speaker 1:

But there's a picture of daniel radcliffe and like the the fuzzy slippers and their bathrobe looking crazy with his guns, and that that that was like three years before that movie came out. So I wonder what happened with all that. I don't know. Maybe we'll look it up.

Speaker 3:

I did find it pretty hilarious when he, when he first gets the guns and he's trying to figure out how to put clothes on, or he's trying to pee, yeah and he and he's like don't shoot your dick off.

Speaker 1:

Don't shoot your dick off and he's just going everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's funny. He's wearing his little tiger print underwear and his big fuzzy tiger slippers. What would you rate? It. I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10. Yeah, it's worth a watch. It's fun. It's a fun movie, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'd watch it. It's a fun movie. It doesn't have a whole lot of replay value.

Speaker 2:

It's on Amazon For free For Prime members, so check it out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cool, what news.

Speaker 2:

Apparently, sylvester Stallone is up to something with Rocky IV Director's Cut.

Speaker 3:

All right, everybody's getting their director's cut.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Apparently it's supposed to be, as he said, amazing and spectacular and everybody's like what?

Speaker 1:

are you going to do?

Speaker 2:

And he's just like shh, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1:

Did he direct it?

Speaker 2:

I don't think he did. Did he direct Rocky IV I?

Speaker 1:

don't think so. Does he direct? Yeah, he does. Okay, he's one of those guys who also pull and he's basically the director, just without being listed as one. Yeah, but if I look really quickly, I believe he might have, because he didn't direct the first one. What rocky four is? Uh? No, he didn't. He wrote the first one. Rocky four is yeah, he directed rocky four the, the one who fights ivan drago.

Speaker 1:

I have a drago, yeah I almost said cal Drogo Crossover. I saw it once. I've seen that movie once. That movie is just like so America Cold War. Usa.

Speaker 2:

But it's also like the best Rocky movie.

Speaker 1:

I bet you what it is is he's going to have some scenes where he sees Apollo Creed's son and has some sort of crossover.

Speaker 2:

Heart to heart, foreshadowing in the future.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be like George Lucas kind of stuff. This meant something Sylvester Stallone's thinking 20 years from now when people want to do their Rocky Marathon, their annual Rocky Marathon, or whatever. There needs to be a little bit of continuity.

Speaker 2:

You know breaching uh bridging of uh rocky and creed, so you know I know he wasn't going to do a rock five director's cut because rocky five was trash well, I also will say, since the ivan drug, which is four, I think creed two is probably the best one since then, just because it it brought I have a dragon back in and maybe rocky belt, though wasn't bad well, yeah, but but the this one gave more of a credence.

Speaker 3:

You know it. You had a drago's son fight uh creed, and then you had, you know, ivan drago's there you kind of? Had the animosity between him and rocky, and then you had the animosity between the other two fighting, so it was was stallone in the second one. Yeah, okay, all right yeah, he's worn in a creed. You know you shouldn't fight this guy because he has no reputation. He's just this big hulking monster that comes out of russia to fight all of a sudden, the the creed sequels are really good.

Speaker 1:

I never thought that they would be that good yeah and it's just a genius idea to basically take the idea of Rocky to a younger generation.

Speaker 3:

Better generation.

Speaker 1:

Sure, that's what you meant. Let's not go there.

Speaker 3:

Let's not get crazy here, okay, boomer.

Speaker 2:

But I'm hoping Rocky IV is going to be 80s nostalgia, just because that movie's prime 80s, the 80s montage to work out. Ivan Drago's working out at, like the state-of-the-art gym you know he's running up a mountain in the snow in a leather jacket with a beard, lifting up a you know a cart full of rocks while Hart's on fire blasts and he grabs the picture off the mirror and he's like they're punching uh cows in a locker, in a meat locker hey rock.

Speaker 2:

Look a pork in the meat. So there's that that might happen. Um godzilla versus kong, delayed to may 2021 all right.

Speaker 1:

Um, I forgot the movie was coming out.

Speaker 2:

I did not I did see it still, though, and it's, you know godzilla's standing there. You know the spikes are glowing blue because he's going to do the. You know, the cool nuclear fire stuff on kong, and kong is like the exact same height as godzilla, so he's continuing to grow, so he has continued to grown, but he looks like he's holding like a battle axe, and I'm like he's broken down the the statue of liberty and ready to swing no, he has like this, like weird it looks.

Speaker 2:

Uh, remember when they had like the weird-looking Godzilla that had the lava, but the spikes were different and jaggedy-looking. Yeah, I know it looks like that, wedged into his stick to make a big battle axe, and Kong's just about to swing it and uppercut him into next year.

Speaker 1:

Why not?

Speaker 2:

Which he did, because this is coming out in May 2021, apparently.

Speaker 1:

So I guess that shot connected. But I'm like like that's not fair. He's using tools. Godzilla doesn't use tools. He's got opposable thumbs for a reason there was a, he's got four of them. There was a joke about that in powerpuff girls. You know, mojo-jojo like says like I'm gonna press you, press you under my thumb if you don't oppose, or something like that. I was like we get, get it he's your monkey.

Speaker 2:

I want there to be a scene in this movie where, like Godzilla's like doing the thing and just like a big old pile of poop.

Speaker 3:

It's in the face.

Speaker 2:

It's just like radioactive poop, and then uh that's. That's it for that movie.

Speaker 1:

I got one more, though there's an upcoming movie called Greenland featuring uh Ger.

Speaker 2:

Movie called Greenland featuring Gerard Butler disaster movie does it take place in Greenland? It might apparently because I saw the trailer. Uh, he's in America. Apparently they're trying to escape to Greenland because there's a super underground bunker to protect humanity, because big meteoroids are just hitting the Earth and causing, you know, global destruction and I was I saw the trailer and somebody was watching it and I was like this Aerosmith you know, have something to do with this, michael Bay breaks and finally gets into the bunker.

Speaker 2:

They open the door and Aerosmith standing there ready to play it's like we're sending you guys in the space to blow these things up first.

Speaker 1:

If the drill to the center of the earth. I read somewhere that Greenland's like one of the safest places in the world if there's ever a global catastrophe, like pandemics, for instance, and stuff like that, because it's such a landlocked.

Speaker 2:

I think the population is less than a million.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And for a country called Greenland it's kind of tongue-in-cheek because it's mostly ice.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's your history. When they discovered Iceland, they discovered Greenland shortly after, and I don't remember everything, but essentially Iceland was where people wanted to go. It was the new. It was before no, I think it was after they discovered the new world. But anyways, the guy who discovered it decided Greenland would sell better if he called it Greenland.

Speaker 2:

I remember at Iceland it's just Team Iceland, the bad guys from the second Mighty Ducks movie. Those kids were good hockey players, though All right.

Speaker 1:

well, that's all I got. Cool Gerard Butler movie. Maybe it's another. Greenland has fallen, who knows.

Speaker 2:

Maybe this movie will come out this year. Maybe, who knows?

Speaker 1:

Well, I had video games Games, and I played a video game called Zelda Link's Awakening.

Speaker 3:

Who would have guessed you'd play something like that? You don't care, move on.

Speaker 1:

That's hurtful. I have a lot of talk about this game.

Speaker 2:

You don't care about Godzilla vs Kong.

Speaker 1:

I said I forgot about that movie. You haven't even seen it. All right, Link's Awakening it's a remake of the original Game Boy one that came out in like 92. And then no, 93. And then in 98 came out Link's Awakening DX. Yeah, it was amazing because it was colored. Yeah, for the Game Boy Color. And in 2019 they came out with a $60 switch video game. So this game, is it worth 60 bucks? Probably not.

Speaker 3:

Banking on that one story, but it sold really well.

Speaker 1:

It sold 4.38 million uh million copies um so good as breath of the wild.

Speaker 3:

No but uh so there's nothing is as good as breath of the. They're just banking on that zelda name I mean, it was fun game.

Speaker 1:

I'm, I'm, I don't regret buying. Did it play the same way as breath of the wild? No it, it's a top-down old-school Zelda game.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I want to play that.

Speaker 1:

It's 2020. Well, I mean, what's cool is, if you played the Game Boy One, the nostalgia is still there. But they do things like they've made it to widescreen ratio and stuff like that. And the old-school Zelda game was built around how many tiles they could fit in each frame. One tile is one input of moving direction for Link.

Speaker 1:

So, they had to change all the mechanics for that. Usually, when Link goes from one side of the screen to the other side of the screen, the whole screen has to transition and load up the next one. Now he just scrawls across. There's no weird transitioning between the screens and stuff like that for most of the cases.

Speaker 3:

It only took them 20 years to make it that way.

Speaker 1:

Well, they took them 20 years to decide that we should make this game again. The art is pretty cool. It's a diorama, what they called a retro-modern look, so the best way to describe it is like you know the cloth, toy-looking Yoshi story stuff they have for those new games coming out. It's kind of like that. It has a little bit more realism. Link is described as a plasticine like looks like Woody from Toy Story, so it looks like a 1990s.

Speaker 2:

McDonald's toy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but his character has little bushy eyebrows move, but he has these black beady eyes and stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

So you know it's fun.

Speaker 1:

It's a cute little way to make the game and instead of looking directly straight down on a level, it's got a tilt shift so you can see a lot of depth of field into, uh, objects and stuff like that. And they changed a lot of things like the physics of the items. Instead of it, just like you kill a bad guy and a rupee drops to the ground, now like if something touches the rupee, it'll brush, it'll move around, it'll. You know, heart containers will fall over, um, things like that Interesting. It's very subtle little redos to it. The biggest change to the game is probably this dungeon creator thing.

Speaker 1:

So basically, when you beat a dungeon, you get all the rooms in a dungeon that go to this creator level where you go and you make your own dungeon and if you beat it you make a really hard. And if you beat it, you know you make a really hard dungeon, you beat it, you get stuff for that, basically to make more dungeons.

Speaker 1:

And then I I think they're trying to make it like mario maker where you can post on it, because they did say like, um, the guy who made zelda, the very happy japanese guy, what's's his name, you know, I don't remember his name. But he basically let the guy who directed the remake of this say, okay, cool, do something like Mario Maker. And originally they were going to make it so you could design each tile, each object, everything in the dungeon, but they decided it was way too complicated. So instead now you just basically can plug and play rooms and it's pretty simple. I played with it just a little bit. I was more like I want to go back and venture in and stuff like that. Yeah, it's fun, it's a hard game. I forgot how hard that game was. Some of the puzzles you just I mean there was no Google back then and I beat the game, but it probably took me forever. I remember being freaking mad at this game.

Speaker 2:

Is it like you playing this now, getting mad and about to Google, and then your son or daughter?

Speaker 1:

comes in and figures it out in like two seconds. No, they're not as good at this game as I am.

Speaker 2:

Plus, it's like I like the smirk you had, but it's a different thing.

Speaker 1:

They've never played a game where you look at a whole map and you walk.

Speaker 2:

They don't get it Like me, and you would be like, yeah, remember that boy Color. They don't know that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

They're like what button's the jump button? And I'm like you don't jump unless you equip the feather. I'm like that's dumb, you know. So they don't get stuff like game. I don't think it's worth $60. I think it'd be worth $30 to $40. Somewhere around there it's sold a ton Switch games don't ever go down in price. Whatever they have, if it sells well, they're going to keep it that way, breath of the Wild is still $80?. If you want to get everything, yeah that game came out four years ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all the DLCs. The thing that really pisses me off is these Amiibo things. Yes, if I really like a game, I want to do everything in the game. I want everything unlocked. But you can't get everything unless you buy these little action figures that has the coding on the bottom of it that you've got to enter and scan, right, yeah, well, you got to put it on the controller and then it like recognizes it and says, okay, now that this is in the game and you can mess with it. Yeah, I mean they're cool action figures but like some of them, they they only release a certain amount, so they could be like 120 bucks for an action figure you know that happens, you put in there, not, not, not spending that kind of money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think they did. Well, I know skyrim, they the uh master swords in there the shield and then the shirt or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you put I don't know if you need the amiibo for that or not, do you? I don't think you need the amiibo. I think you find it, so all right. Well, I give the game an eight. I would be.

Speaker 2:

I mean, there's no flaws in the game is that eight more like a nostalgic. Yes, it's entirely nostalgic.

Speaker 1:

If I had not played the original one, I probably wouldn't rate it as high, but it's purely my nostalgia talking. It would be a lot higher if it was cheaper.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, give me like a $20 Switch game where they redid Star Fox 64. Dude, that would be awesome. That would be a great game.

Speaker 3:

I've never played that one. I've seen people play it and it looked interesting, but I just didn't have an N64. Amazing game.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think Nintendo is picking up a lot of what people are putting down for remakes, because that did sell very well, probably way more than they thought it would.

Speaker 3:

And they didn't put a lot of work into it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they redesigned all the levels, but the music is still kind of synthesized. There's a couple of instrumental stuff here and there, but for the most part you can tell it's some dude with a mixing board and stuff like that making things All right. Well, there's my review. My news is, guess what we just talked about expensive video games In the next gen games are going to cost $70. That's right, not made out of money. Nba 2K is confirmed to be $70.

Speaker 3:

I'm not buying that game.

Speaker 1:

Well, nobody is, but everybody is saying, okay, well, it's finally happening and apparently a lot of people said it was supposed to happen in 2013,. But then mobile games came out and became more of a market.

Speaker 2:

Flappy bird yeah, I still have that on my phone. You do. Yeah, isn't that?

Speaker 1:

worth like a ton of money. No, not anymore, oh, okay. Well, anyways, mobile games came out and so the console game market decided to hold off for a generation on upping the price from $60 to $70. So usually it's every three generations, I think, they raise the price. They do it to try and adjust for inflation, because originally video games were $40, you know.

Speaker 3:

Nintendo games. What you're saying is, we need to buy all the Xbox One games that transfer over right now.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that. Oh yeah, I guess, so buy.

Speaker 3:

Cyberpunk for Xbox One, and then just let it transfer over.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if it'll do that or not. I haven't addressed any of the console generational games or anything like that.

Speaker 2:

Like a sports game costing $70. It's like nobody's going to play. That I mean people are going to buy it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2:

It's like buying a Madden game every year. What's the point A?

Speaker 1:

lot of people said okay, the reason why there was so much loot, crates and small stuff to buy and video games like. I guess at one point you could spend real dollars to give a basketball player a haircut and uh, and one of these nba 2g, I don't know. That's. That's what the report said and people would like got furious about that kind of stuff. Well, the developers said we're undercharging for these video games, so whatever, we can nickel and dime out of you after that point.

Speaker 3:

Undercharging. If you make the game well enough, people will buy it and have plenty of money yeah like Destiny is a free game.

Speaker 1:

now, I mean you can't play.

Speaker 3:

Four years later.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but you can't play as well as other people who pay for the season pass. Same with Warzone, I guess, technically, if you were just an amazing player, you could win just as much in Warzone.

Speaker 2:

If you're a good Warzone player, all you really need is the M4 and the MP5.

Speaker 1:

There's plenty of free games out there that make their money and are playable as free, and maybe that's the future. Maybe all these crappy sports games that just constantly just do a jersey update for each year and charge you the full price of a video game. That's hopefully going to go away.

Speaker 2:

But I mean the old ones do that in updates they just roster to guys who retired, got traded.

Speaker 1:

So then why would they have a new game?

Speaker 3:

come new game, come out the next new yeah, pretty much duh well that's what I bought one of the maddens more recently, like within the last couple years like madden 25 or whatever yeah, well, I have the ea. I do like the ea pass the yearly pass because for five bucks you have it for, I don't think, the year really and it's reasonable I think. Uh, the most recent Madden that came out last year became available for free through the EA Pass, I think a month or two ago and I downloaded it for free, so why pay for it?

Speaker 3:

Because there's a new one that's going to come out this year. Every year they come out.

Speaker 1:

But subscription stuff is really starting to scare me. I'm getting concerned that the future is you no longer pay for a video game and have it and then whatever comes out for updates and stuff like that you've paid for already. The future is you want to play Destiny 6, subscribe to the Destiny channel and then you know $15 a month and you can play as much Destiny as you want to, but by the end of the year you're spending $200 for a video game. That might be the future.

Speaker 3:

You don't just get this one game, you get their whole library.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it makes sense now, but I wonder if that's the beginning or the end when?

Speaker 2:

I bought a game, I put it in my gaming console and then I could just play it. I didn't have to download stuff off the bat. I didn't have to install it into the damn thing. I took the disc and put it in my PS2.

Speaker 1:

That's twice.

Speaker 2:

It's not a curse word and I could just play Dragon.

Speaker 3:

Ball Z. I would just go click. Well, that's what kills me. Now you can either download it off the Xbox Store or you can buy a game and still have to download it. It doesn't only why?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it doesn't make sense well, I actually been downloading the game bit because I don't have to get up and drive to game stop and buy it.

Speaker 1:

I did a lot of research into, uh, you know, like the game development for their marketing. Uh, because of why the game increased and they said they shortened the price and then nickel and dime in the future. And they also talked about they also release all these undeveloped games and like, for instance, anthem, the game was barely playable when it came out, if not. A lot of people said there was game-breaking issues and stuff like that and it's because the publishers pushed the developers to make the game and hit that hard date of release and then have them continue their crunch time to pump out updates after the game is released.

Speaker 3:

I've played that because it's on the EA thing and it's kind of like Destiny. It's all right to play by yourself, but it'd be a lot more fun with more people.

Speaker 1:

But that's the future. Future games is just like hey, get it out there, let everybody buy it and then fix it later. I think that should be illegal.

Speaker 3:

That's why a lot of people nowadays they wait to see how the game is before they go out and buy it. That's like buying a car with three of the four. Yeah, yeah, that's just screw with the, with the gaming six months when we got the other one done. Well, it's like modern warfare I didn't buy it for like the first month and a half, until I knew what.

Speaker 1:

You know what it was going to be like uh like there's some people that make a game and just they. They don't even have like in the money for their uh for the actual production to finish the game. They wait until they get pre-orders to come in to hit that that final money mark before they like okay we have enough now we can do the final touches like.

Speaker 1:

But like there's other honorable game companies out there that, like cd project red for instance, they've already announced development uh for um dlcs for the game because they had enough pre-order money. So I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

We made the base game. The game is done. It's good to go. You guys showed a lot of interest with pre-orders, so because of this, we're going to take that money and start doing a DLC.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they've already talked about multiplayer DLCs and all that other stuff in the future, which also helps generate more pre-orders, more pre-orders which that makes sense, like my money's going to more game, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And they've made it a huge stink out of the fact that this is not part of the core game. This is not what you're paying for for the original, the pre-orders and stuff like that that you get, and then the money that you add in after the game comes out gives you more content. You know which is like more, like, oh, you want to actually finish the game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I don't think any of the Skyrim DLC came out that year. Came out way, way later.

Speaker 3:

This rant brought to you by money-grubbing game developers.

Speaker 1:

It is there you go. Money-grubbing game developers, those dastardly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you want us to stop talking crap about you.

Speaker 1:

Why don't you send us some video games?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll review them. We'll tell you what we think.

Speaker 1:

Alright. That ends our news and reviews. Each week, we find some topics of discussion for movies, tv shows and video games. We review them if we have played them and reviewed them, and we do some research into upcoming stuff that is worth talking about. If you have information that you want us to research, or a game or a TV show or whatever that you want us to review, and give you the info, the DL, as it were by all means message on our social mediums and we will get back with you. This is also the tired edition.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

As you can see by the energy drinks and coffee. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

My vat of coffee. So, all right, cool, that is it. Let's move on to our top 10 list. Tom, what do we do about our top 10 list? What is this thing?

Speaker 2:

I've never heard of it before this top 10 list that we do was actually filler, because when we first did the podcast, we would review multiple movies, shows and games.

Speaker 1:

That's true.

Speaker 2:

And then, because of coronavirus, we had to come up with filler time and it's like, well, let's just do a top 10 about this. And now it's just kind of become its own entity in the show.

Speaker 3:

Mm top 10 about this, and now it's just kind of become its own entity in the show Through necessity, through necessity.

Speaker 2:

Maybe when things go into full swing, we'll eliminate the top 10, or I doubt it, Because by that point we'll be doing it longer than we did it without.

Speaker 1:

Well, we have some audience feedback.

Speaker 2:

We do get feedback, not a lot, we didn't get enough this week to have a standalone audience list.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know, if you guys stop talking to us, we might just get rid of it. So all right, cool all right.

Speaker 3:

Well, we had our top 10 hardest video game bosses this week and uh hardest is in like or hardest is in difficulty? Well, it depends on how difficult it was you're just getting ready.

Speaker 2:

I was like I didn't say nothing.

Speaker 3:

Depends on whether you beat this boss or not.

Speaker 2:

I was a little surprised Boba Fett from Shadows of the Empire wasn't on there. It took me 13 years to beat Boba Fett.

Speaker 3:

I looked through a list of the top 100 and I put the ones that I would imagine most people had probably at least played the game.

Speaker 2:

I played three or four of these games.

Speaker 3:

I played all but three of them. We'll see how it goes, we have our top 10. We had about 15 of them listed. The ones that didn't make it were Orphan of Chaos from Bloodborne.

Speaker 1:

Never played it Just because a bunch of people hadn't played it.

Speaker 3:

Crota from Destiny yeah the original Crota.

Speaker 1:

That was tough, but then there was the cheese that you could kill. Well, once you learn the patterns, and stuff.

Speaker 3:

It's not as hard, Plus you get leveled up as the game goes on, Plus Gjallarhorn yeah that helps yeah. Then we had a Tyrant from Resident Evil, code Veronica. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Cool.

Speaker 3:

And Alma from Ninja.

Speaker 1:

Gaiden, alma didn't make it. Nope, I almost voted for that one just because I played this in my freshman year of college and I beat the Ninja Gaiden game all the way to the end, got to this boss. This boss has three stages and I beat the first two stages and that final stage. It's one of those games where, like, you spend the entire game learning how to play it and you get really good at it, and then the final boss is not anything like the gameplay.

Speaker 2:

You know it's not. It's a completely new game you're all of a sudden thrust into. Yeah, it's like a button.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, god of War would do that where, like, like you're fighting the boss and then like a cut scene kind of happens and you have to hit the triangle in order to dodge it. It's crap like that, and uh, I didn't. I got so mad and it was really freaking hard.

Speaker 3:

I gave up on it well, anyways, we'll start the list at number 10, which was the end from metal gear solid 3. He's the little guy that's in the ghillie suit with the sniper rifle.

Speaker 1:

The old man, oh yeah do you know the easiest way to beat this guy? No but please enlighten me. So he's a very old man and he dies from a heart attack in three weeks. So I wait three weeks, yeah, or set your console clock three weeks in advance and he'll just be dead. You can just go find him and loot him and then take off.

Speaker 2:

That is one hell of like an engaged add-in. It's like he dies in three weeks you have to fight him now.

Speaker 3:

It's like, or wait, yeah, or wait, and he's not played for three weeks and then when you come back, he's croaked yeah if you play it, though it's, it's an epic sniper battle because you're in the middle of like a jungle, you have a solid snake, you have the sniper rifle he's got a sniper rifle. Pretty much the only way to see him is every now and then you'll see a glint of his sniper scope. Do you play Solid Snake or Boss? I don't know, I just remember it's the main character.

Speaker 2:

Don't ask me. I never played any of these. I never played any of the Metal Gear Solid.

Speaker 3:

What's wrong with?

Speaker 2:

you. None of my friends were into it.

Speaker 1:

None of my friends were into it. I never. Well, none of my friends were into it either. I just played a single player game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's fun, but uh, it was pretty cool because you know he either. He would be sniping and if you didn't see his sniper glint you could be sitting there looking around and all of a sudden he'd like stab you and run off and before you could get out of the sniper scope he'd be gone. And it was pretty good. I think the only way I ended up beating him is I kind of accidentally like stepped on him as I was wondering the forest.

Speaker 1:

He wears a ghillie suit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and he got up and ran off and I just started shooting as fast as I could in his back it reminds me of a sniper wolf from twin snakes see, I never got to that one that was a sniper fight but it was like a giant.

Speaker 1:

You were snake and sniper wolf was on like this long. It was like a. The level layout was like a, like an uppercase letter I. So you had this hallway you could go laterally on and then a hallway that you would snipe down. And then she had a hallway that she would send wolves literal wolves to like flush you out from behind cover and then snipe you. So you had to kill the wolves and then try and kill her, and she had instantaneous if you stepped out behind cover she'd snipe you.

Speaker 3:

Well, this guy, basically you could take two shots and if you didn't have any health packs or anything like that, after the second shot you're just dead and you would see a sniper glint. And if you didn't immediately dodge and dive for cover, you're getting shot. Dive and dodge. It'd be like blink, pow, it's like what's that? It was fairly difficult because sometimes you wouldn't even see the rifle glint. You'd hear a shot and be dead. Yeah, snack.

Speaker 1:

It was pretty good.

Speaker 3:

Snack. Well, I guess there's not a whole lot to that, other than he was tough and very sneaky. We'll move on to number 9, which is Goro from Mortal Kombat. Which Mortal Kombat?

Speaker 2:

the very first one, I think it's. I think he's only in 2.

Speaker 3:

The first ones are the second one, mortal Kombat 1 or 2.

Speaker 1:

I don't think he's in 1. Is he in 1?

Speaker 3:

Goro's the forearmed. Yeah, I think it's Mortal Kombat 2 okay but essentially like he would grab you and like beat you. He'd grab you with his bottom arms and then just sit there and punch you with the top arms and if you had a full bar of health it would probably take you from here down to one third of your health.

Speaker 2:

In Mortal Kombat 2, Sub-Zero was the hardest one to beat.

Speaker 3:

Well, this is, You'd fight him and after you fight him, you'd have to go fight Shao Kahn.

Speaker 1:

And Goro was harder than Shao Kahn.

Speaker 3:

No, I mean Shao Kahn. They were about equal, but Goro just had one move that could take you down to almost dead, whereas Shao Kahn was just near invincible.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't allowed to play Mortal Kombat when I was a kid. Oh yeah, it's too much violence.

Speaker 3:

Compared to what we do now.

Speaker 2:

Shoot people with a rocket in the face.

Speaker 1:

Look at that car of people throw a c4 at it. Goodbye, I'm an adult now.

Speaker 3:

Violence is healthy for me, it's stress relieving, so but uh, yeah, I mean he, you couldn't get too close to him playing mortal combat or he would just start. You know, he'd grab you and just start punching the crap out of you, yeah you had to basically attack from like the distance, and if you didn't have a character that had long distance stuff, stuff I mean what a weird character.

Speaker 1:

He's not from like Earth or something.

Speaker 3:

No, he's from the Netherrealm, or wherever they're.

Speaker 1:

Whatever plot is that they?

Speaker 2:

I played one of the newer Mortal Kombats and I had to fight him and it was pain, it was rough yeah.

Speaker 3:

And a lot of times, like the newer games, they'll put in a mechanic where he'll do a move and then he's exhausted for a second, so you can get a couple of hits in before he moves back.

Speaker 2:

But back then, not in the old ones, it was like you had to be fast yeah.

Speaker 1:

You better get it or you ain't got it, he'd be a great pianist, wow, or a drummer, that's true.

Speaker 3:

Well, we'll move on to number eight, which is M Bison from Street Fighter. Ridiculous, ridiculously hard. I never beat Bison. I played it, but I've never.

Speaker 1:

I never. I only played Street Fighter with friends, so I never played the actual campaign and I was always the stretchy guy. Yeah, and I remember actually as a kid we had a Street fire tournament at my friend's house and I played the stretchy guy and I won three times in a row and all I did I didn't know the buttons, I just pressed everybody at a distance. You just like, do that, yeah, and I just beat people from a distance, and so they like there was the street rule.

Speaker 2:

You couldn't play a stretchy guy yeah.

Speaker 1:

They banned that character from the game, so I hate the game after that.

Speaker 3:

I always liked playing as a sumo wrestler because he had that like palm strike, you couldn't get close to him I want to bound kick. But if you do that against Bison, as you get close to do that, he just kind of reaches out and shoots you with a blast. Yeah, hook it in Spinning fist, falcon Punch.

Speaker 2:

Did you ever play? Play against bison? Yeah, because I remember my buddy had it on xbox or something, or I don't think it was xbox he had on on a console. I remember playing it at a house yeah I just remember there was an arcade one out the woods.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, down the woods or in the gutter. He was a poor kid. They had, like you know, the arcade, you know the joystick and the buttons. They had Street Fighter and that was one of the guys like you could fight and it took a lot of quarters to get there that's right and see like when I was a kid too.

Speaker 1:

I missed those games, but I remember going to an arcade and seeing Street Fighter as an arcade game and I was like why would I spend quarters for that when I could just get the game for my Super Nintendo? And I never did that, I never played that, and I know there's big differences between the arcade game and the actual, but it's whatever.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's like our next game, which is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. They had the arcade game, but then they had the Nintendo game, which had like eight more levels.

Speaker 2:

And you game. But then they had the nintendo game, which had like eight more levels and you'd have to keep pumping in quarters into your super nintendo to keep going.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, you get the crane and shredder, which is, it's technically two bosses, but you fight them back to back like you, you fight crane and then, when you finally defeat him, like shredder, steps through the portal I remember that and crane could like split into two. Well, his bottom half would kick you, while his top half would float around.

Speaker 1:

So basically, darth Maul with better autonomy, you had to go through the techno drum the whole way in order to get to that part, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, actually, if I think about it, you've got to fight the rock guy to get through the door, to fight Crane, to fight Shredder.

Speaker 1:

It was a hard the rock guy is vaguely reminiscent to me.

Speaker 2:

I'm just like why does that sound?

Speaker 3:

familiar General Throg or something like that. He's from Dimension X.

Speaker 2:

All right, my brother might have played that one.

Speaker 1:

It was a. I remember beating the Rock guy and then getting into Krang and then I was like no, I'm done.

Speaker 3:

Well, because I mean you get as the Turtles, you essentially get three lives, lives and throughout the entire game you get two continues. So if you yeah, by the time you get there, you're fighting essentially three bosses in a row and, like I said, crane, you know his bottom half would kick you while his top half would float around and shoot at you after you'd beaten him so much. Well, then shredder comes out and he'll like, split the two, like into clones, and then you'd, so you'd be fighting two shredders. The only way you would know which one's the real one is this clones helmet would come off if you attacked it also like the, the buttons for those old-school turtle games.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, I'm just saying like, like the controls, the controls were just awful. Yeah, like, and I think that the problem with old-school games is that they didn't improve the controls. That took advantage of the crap controls that make the game more challenging Instead of it being challenging. It was just trash.

Speaker 3:

That was like my childhood I fought, and I fought and I fought. It took me years to actually beat that game. How happy were you when you did. As a kid. You can't smoke, but you got the little candy cigarettes and me and my cousin tore them up when we were done.

Speaker 1:

Candy cigarettes, man. What happened to those things?

Speaker 3:

People didn't want bad influences anymore.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean it makes sense, while their parents were smoking. That is true, actually, you think about it. I never thought about it as an adult before.

Speaker 2:

I remember being in places as a little kid where you could smoke inside. Yeah, yeah, I know eating like relatives who are like a lot older, but you think about it like holding like my brother.

Speaker 1:

They're going cute kid flicking ashes on a blown smoke everywhere, and I'm just like they probably did that to me, I never thought about candy cigarettes as an adult, though like I I you know, you just brought them up. I haven't thought about them in probably 20 years and then like uh you know, I was like like yeah, candy cigarettes, I miss those. And I'm thinking about it as an adult, like wait a minute, people are marketing candy cigarettes, tobacco to children.

Speaker 2:

It's like it's like candy Coke, yeah, and all it was was just like was Pixie Stix, yeah it was just a

Speaker 3:

cylinder of like sugar.

Speaker 1:

Anyways, that was one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 3:

We'll move on to number six, which was the Nameless King. Now, I've never played Dark Souls 3, but he's the final boss of Dark.

Speaker 2:

Souls 3. I can't imagine the final boss of a Dark Souls 3 game because I played like two hours and I didn't even realize.

Speaker 1:

I bought a Dark Souls game for the Switch just because I was like I want a really challenging game that'll take me forever to beat. It is so stupid hard.

Speaker 2:

You're still in the make your character screen. No, no, no, it's still hard.

Speaker 1:

I've made the character. The levels are so big and expansive and the guy is just so goofy with his attacks. You can have a billion different weapons and stuff, which is cool, but when he swings a sword it's not like, yeah, it's, it's, it's, he just goes he has like forever swing and and, like all the bad guys, just come out of nowhere and kill you from every place, and then, when I made it to the first boss, I gave up.

Speaker 3:

So well, I didn't play this, but I watched it on some some gameplay online and essentially, you know you're this souped up night. By the end, yeah well, this godlike being is like 10 feet tall, with this spear that stretches across the screen and he's flying on a dragon that fills up the screen and he's just flying around you as you're like, in this middle of this big, open arena people who beat beat Dark Souls say the bosses are some of the best bosses ever made.

Speaker 3:

It looked awesome, it looked like a cool thing, but the gameplay-wise.

Speaker 1:

They say it's hard. Yes, but it's one of the best game experiences.

Speaker 2:

I have never met a single person who beat a Dark Souls game.

Speaker 3:

I've only seen one line.

Speaker 1:

I think we had a person that talked about it on our Facebook group.

Speaker 3:

They said they beat it Proof or it didn't happen. I didn't see anything that said they beat it If you do.

Speaker 2:

Dark Souls should send you some sort of medallion, some sort of trophy a shirt.

Speaker 1:

It's like climbing Everest. Essentially, We've got to move on.

Speaker 2:

Alright number five, daniel ever played guitar hero yes, guitar hero three yes, I have through the fire and the flames, oh my god that song with like a thousand button presses like robots, don't have like you know finger dexterity of that level and hand-eye coordination, or even like the capacity to process what you're looking at as it's coming down the guitar neck I could never play you basically hold all five and just strum it as fast as you can and hope for the best well, I could never play using all five buttons, using all four.

Speaker 3:

I beat this song and I was sweating afterwards. I was like it was. I mean, I didn't get 100, obviously, but I never got the guitar hero hype.

Speaker 1:

I think it's gonna be like furbies like we're gonna look back at it in think it's going to be like Furby's we're going to look back at it 10 years from now and be like what were people? Thinking.

Speaker 2:

It was fun, especially if you like the music.

Speaker 1:

You know what they need to do when you're playing this crazy level. They need to have two-thirds of the way through the audio cuts out and it's just a camera of you playing this plastic toy and hearing the clacky sounds. That's it Just so you realize how much of an idiot you look like.

Speaker 2:

Or like an audience tackling you, yeah, like you're opening for somebody early in the game and somebody pegs you in the head with a bottle and you're trying to play with beer in your eye. Boo, you're like Nickelback.

Speaker 3:

Boo, you stink. At the time. This came still, I guess, just out of high school. So I was at home and I'd be playing. Well, my mom, she decided she wanted to play because she liked some of the songs. So she sits the thing down in her lap like a keyboard and she just sits there and plays it like this?

Speaker 2:

I do that sometimes. I'm like what the? Which is weird because she's looking at it, but registering it differently because her hand's backwards.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but she did pretty well.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, that song. There's so many notes, so quickly. I can't tell you how many times I watched my brother try to play it and then just get fed up and go right back to playing. Hit Me With your Best Shot on easy.

Speaker 1:

I go to a friend's house and they're way better at rock band than I will ever be, because I never owned any of those games in my life. They'll play some pretty challenging songs and they want me to play with them, and I've only played, I think, in total five hours of my entire life of any of those games you know, and so I just kind of suffer through um on easy mode with my three buttons while they all play on legendary or whatever, because my brother had that and I had rock band.

Speaker 3:

Uh, beatles rock band yeah, yeah, I never played the rock band once. Well, due to time constraints, we're gonna go ahead and move on to number four, which was Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts. Yeah, no, I never played that, so talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, kingdom Hearts. I think this is Kingdom Hearts 2.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So Sephiroth isn't actually the final boss the game, it's a side boss but definitely hardest boss of the game. It's a side boss but definitely the hardest boss of the game. So in a way that works is like you get, if I remember right, you get Cloud as like a summon where he can like help you Like from Final Fantasy. Yeah, you know what Kingdom Hearts is right.

Speaker 3:

It's.

Speaker 1:

Disney and Final Fantasy crossover.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, you got Mickey and Goofy and at the end you fight Walt Disney or something you have this guy that has the key sword or whatever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you've got to fight Mecha.

Speaker 1:

Disney. It's actually a pretty fascinating plot. Somehow they made it work.

Speaker 2:

It's interesting. I've heard a lot of good things about it.

Speaker 1:

I never played Kingdom Hearts 3, and from what I hear it's not that good. But I've never played Kingdom Hearts 3, and from what I hear it's not that good, but anyways, so you go and you fight Sephiroth, and so they have health bars and I think it's like 10 blocks is one health bar. And then it's one of those games where if it's a red health bar, it's got two health bars. So once you chip away the red, there's a blue behind it. Well, sephiroth has black, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

It's like eight health bars, and he has all these things that can kill you in one hit. He's. He's insane to beat, it's it? You basically have to have the best stuff in the game in order to beat him and uh oh, I remember what it is, boss wasn't he no, it is. It. It is in kingdom hearts one, and there's a hercules level from the movie hercules and maybe he is kingdom hearts too I cannot remember, but anyways, you do these tournaments in an arena and you fight the Cerberus and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

The final boss, I believe, is Sephiroth. You get the best Keyblade in the game if you beat him, or something like that.

Speaker 2:

There's kind of a reward for it, After you spend days getting you know. No, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Like, if you streamline and you just blast through the boss fight like you're a pro at it, it'll take you 20 minutes. So, yeah, it'll take you months to get that good. Months Don't have time for that. No, all right.

Speaker 3:

Well, we'll go on to number three, which is General Rom from Gears of War. This was tough. You're stuck on a train, oh my God. And then the rail.

Speaker 1:

This is the first one. Yeah, okay, then I beat this one.

Speaker 2:

Because you're up on top of a train. There's a Troika turret up there, I believe. I think so, but they destroy it. He's shooting at you with a handheld one that he doesn't lose. You're running out of ammo and there's cover which can be destroyed, and as you're rotating behind cover and you go through the darkness, the krill will attack and kill you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just all of a sudden you've got these things attacking you while you're behind the cover. Then you have to get out, and then he shoots you when you get out of the cover.

Speaker 1:

I vaguely remember this you can do co-op, right, right yeah, that's the first gears of war.

Speaker 2:

That's how me and my brother beat it, yeah me and troy me and my buddy troy we beat it, me and my friend at the time. He was like hey, I need you to come over and I was like what's going on? He's like I got gears of war and I was like, oh cool, I was like I haven't played that. He's like, yeah, he's like I just need you to come over, like right now, because you're good at shooter games. He's like we're trying, I gotta beat this guy, yeah it's.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I yeah, I remember beating that game because we bought Gears of War 1 and 2 together and we beat 1. It took us like I don't know, it wasn't that long, like two weeks maybe. And then we got Gears of War 2. And, as soon as we finished Gears of War 1, we put into Gears of War 2. Started up played like two missions and we were like nah.

Speaker 3:

My brother and I beat 1 and we beat number 2. And then we never played any of the other.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not doing very well. It's tanking all of its latest IPs.

Speaker 2:

Gears of War was still at a time where buying a game like that, where you and your friends would spend a night or something like, that or your whole weekend just to co-op through difficulty and try to beat it, because nobody does that really anymore.

Speaker 3:

A lot of games aren't local co-op anymore. You have to do it online Couch co op.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was couch co-op. Basically you were sitting there on split screen playing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, not very many. That's why I think Minecraft is such a big push nowadays.

Speaker 2:

That and the Halo games.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe Halo will bring that kind of stuff Actually. Maybe Halo will bring that kind of stuff Actually. Call of Duty has a couple things you can do couch, so the new Warzone. So that's why I like it so much is because you can do everything in that game All right, we'll move on to number two, which is Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising. I never beat the game, so I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I beat this game. I never played this game. Basically, you play as Raiden, which is he's like this goofy character in some of the other metal gears, but in this one he's like a cyborg ninja. He's like a cross between, uh, solid snake and gray fox from metal gear and basically names and well, gray fox, was this like a great fox, elite ninja that could kill anything metal gear. Well, he moves like super solid.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, but he's fighting like the big Metal Gear robots and stuff and he has like special moves where, like it's like time slows down and it's almost like Fruit Ninja. You see how fast you can move and when time stops they just fall to pieces if you've never played any game from Metal Gear.

Speaker 1:

You should either play Metal Gear 5, which I think is for free right now on xbox yeah, or you should play three three was my favorite three's good, but twin snakes is is my favorite. So twin snakes is, like the, the best push for story. It's metal gear. One metal gear solid one, remade. So, um, and I don't know like what. What does what kojima does really well with his games is he has such like to detail with the stupidest minor things that you never would think would be cool.

Speaker 2:

That pen and that cup meant something.

Speaker 1:

For instance, I remember being blown away in the very beginning of Metal Gear Solid, where I killed a guy. I'm sneaking in to infiltrate this base. I take his body and I stuff him in a locker and then I hide it in a locker next to him because I hear somebody coming in. The guy comes inside and he opens the locker and the body falls on top of him. He's like, oh like, holding the body and freaking out.

Speaker 1:

Bob. No, I was like, wow, they really thought through all that stuff. It was crazy. They're really fun games and they can be very, very challenging well, this is a lot different than most of them because this one's like straight fighter. Yeah, that's it. This is an offshoot, like a spin-off it.

Speaker 3:

It kind of reminds me of almost like final fantasy, but it's not like the rpg stuff, it's just the fight scenes look like that yeah well, you fight senator armstrong, which you know.

Speaker 3:

This game's a 360 game. I'm spoiling it, sorry, but uh, you get to the end and he's like the president of the united states and uh, he comes out dressing his suit, like you know, just like a business suit, looking all presidential. Yeah, you're like this robot mech samurai thing and you start hitting him and realize that it's doing nothing, like the cutscene, because his skin is basically like this organic metal that can't be broken. You fight this guy probably six times. You have to fight him, take all his health away.

Speaker 3:

Well then, it's almost like Dragon Ball Z. He powers up or whatever. You have to fight him again. This isn't even my final form. It gets to the point where, because of whatever, whatever enhancements he has, he's picking up like legs from, like you know, like power ranger robots, like that size of a leg, just picking them up from other robots and swinging them at you now he'll like hit the ground and it's like a shockwave that you pretty much can't avoid and you probably I think you have to beat him four or five times all in a row, and there's no checkpoints.

Speaker 3:

If you lose, you start back over so it just kept going. So it was a hard. It was a hard boss. Took a while to beat. The last battle took about an hour all right and then uh number one. Now we'll go with uh mike tyson from nintendo yeah, mike tyson mike tyson hey, I'm sorry I had, I had it.

Speaker 2:

I got shot.

Speaker 1:

Give me that Give me that.

Speaker 3:

Did you hit the mic. I did yes, it's a Call of Duty mic. Hide behind it.

Speaker 1:

That shows how great I am at Call of Duty.

Speaker 2:

You see what I have to put up with when we play.

Speaker 1:

So, like I found something interesting about this boss fight. They found out like six years ago this game came out in like the 80s.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They found out like six years ago. There's a pattern to Mike Tyson Like that's how long it took for people to figure out how to beat this guy. There's a guy in the audience who blinks or squints his eyes or whatever, right before Mike Tyson punches every time. Somebody finally made the correlation between the two. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Who's? Watching the audience while they play.

Speaker 1:

The drop down math starts happening. I always played punch out. Or is it punch out? Or knock out, punch out. I always played punch out and is it punch out or knockout. I always played punch out, and then, whenever I got to Mike Tyson, the game is over.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if anybody ever no, we were watching that YouTube video. This is like one of the toughest bosses. But then we watch this guy on YouTube that beats him without probably cuz he's been playing for 30 years.

Speaker 1:

The code maybe.

Speaker 2:

I know this game came out in the 80s, like even into the 90s, when me and my brother were smaller and, like you know, video games were becoming a much bigger thing, people still talked about this game, yeah, and it was like there was always like some kid, it's just like. Oh yeah, my, my older brother, legend buddy from high school, you know he beat mike tyson and punch out and it's he didn't, and it's like get out of here, you blockhead. You don't know nothing about anything. Let me see your Pokemon cards though.

Speaker 1:

You want to play Pogs?

Speaker 3:

But you know, the list just goes to show you that, even though there's new games and new developments and all this stuff, some of the oldest games are still some of the hardest.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because you know Nintendo's half. Would you say that it takes advantage of the crappy controls?

Speaker 3:

Oh, without a doubt, but that's part of what makes it hard.

Speaker 1:

I mean because sometimes he just starts punching and you just put your controller down because you know there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2:

It's like fighting Mike Tyson in real life you just give up. You just stand there and take it. And you don't have to take it for long, because that first one is going to knock you the hell out, right?

Speaker 1:

Cool. Well, there's our top ten list. We will announce another top ten list on our Facebook and social medias here shortly. Maybe this time you'll be inclined to comment and vote. Please do be inclined so we can have more people like you commenting and talking about our listing here, Like, for instance, Mitch. Did you by any chance get some names written down for this list?

Speaker 3:

I do, I have. Let's see, we have my brother Todd.

Speaker 1:

Who do you vote for?

Speaker 3:

Both of them voted for Senator Armstrong, like me. Okay, let's see.

Speaker 2:

Sounds like nepotism.

Speaker 3:

We had Joshua that I used to work with. He voted for Sepiroth, like you good man and then we had uh uh chris and uh cody. Chris, I know from a work friend and cody you know cody bear?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that guy the room. What do you? What do they vote for?

Speaker 3:

they both had uh mike tyson oh yeah, we had a mark they won yeah, we had mark for name for the nameless king yeah we had a quote-unquote walter yeah for uh, through the fire and the flames.

Speaker 1:

And then, you know, we had tom for hey, if you want 25, why don't you share 10 people to our facebook group? We've announced that and nobody's done it it's's free money.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying.

Speaker 1:

Also, if you want a pen, Yep, they're there. Comment I want a pen on our Facebook group and we'll send you one.

Speaker 3:

First one to do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll even pay for shipping. What do you think about that? All right, that does our top ten list. Let us know what you want us to talk about next week.

Speaker 2:

Now we move on to our favorite session of the segment of the show, the most stressful part of the show, not for you, but for us.

Speaker 3:

Alright, go for it. I had my one week vacation maybe.

Speaker 2:

I hate you. I hate you all. Mitch punished by Hayden Movie. I hate you all.

Speaker 1:

Alright.

Speaker 2:

The streak continues.

Speaker 3:

I just want to punish somebody one time.

Speaker 1:

You're not allowed to.

Speaker 2:

The wheel hath decided your fate.

Speaker 1:

Your punishment is Titanic, the cartoon I hate you. Can you pull up?

Speaker 2:

Why do I always have to pull up? You have a phone.

Speaker 1:

Can you just do it for me real quick? So this is an Italian.

Speaker 3:

I know what it is. I had it on my list to punish somebody else with. I'm talking to the ice.

Speaker 1:

It's an Italian cartoon.

Speaker 2:

Look, look, Paulie, there's an iceberg.

Speaker 1:

It was made in the early 2000s and basically just rips off of Disney cartoon animation.

Speaker 3:

Is it, the one with the mice.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

I think there's singing and stuff involved.

Speaker 2:

It's the entire movie.

Speaker 1:

That's where he's going to watch it on. Don't shoot me. I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 2:

I think it's like a final trailer or something.

Speaker 1:

The Legend of.

Speaker 2:

Titanic, an animated classic. Yeah, it's a classic.

Speaker 1:

Just play something.

Speaker 3:

It's a quote-unquote, self-designed classic.

Speaker 1:

There you go.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I want to see it too. This looks like the animation for Anastasia.

Speaker 1:

How long is this movie Hold it up to the microphone so people can hear how amazing the audio is? The headline is here, watch out people, I'll run you over Rich people coming through.

Speaker 2:

Get out of the way. Excuse me.

Speaker 1:

Peasantry, look at my disproportionately blocky car.

Speaker 2:

And next time learn how to drive. My monocle fell out, ah yes.

Speaker 3:

Money, ah yes my wife, my young wife. She's not here for money.

Speaker 2:

Well spent. I'm an important character.

Speaker 3:

Well spent.

Speaker 2:

The camera's panning on me for much, much time.

Speaker 1:

There it is, that's a big dinghy.

Speaker 2:

I'm in a boat. The camera's panning on me for much, much time. There it is. That's a big dinghy. I'm in a boat.

Speaker 1:

This boat.

Speaker 2:

Here's five pounds. Park the car, get my luggage, I mean my wife.

Speaker 1:

All right cool.

Speaker 2:

That's enough. Stop the luggage.

Speaker 3:

Yes sir, I'm so dreary looking inside.

Speaker 1:

This is a movie we should dub. It's the dead-eyed look of all the characters no emotion, so I don't know. That's 90 minutes of pure enjoyment that mitch gets to enjoy. Well, welcome back on to the uh the punishment trend.

Speaker 3:

You know you only have like eight more weeks left, so so I get my one week reprieve again each time I get punished. It's like a progressive amount of weeks in a row.

Speaker 1:

I've actually had people message me. Maybe you should take Mitch off the wheel for a while and I was like no, no, mitch stays on the wheel.

Speaker 2:

It's not even fair the wheel.

Speaker 3:

Hath decided your fate, alright next time I get to pick top 10, we're doing top 10. Mitch's worst punishments the.

Speaker 1:

Titanic one was actually a user-based suggestion. So if you feel that you have a horrible movie, we want Mitch to watch. With taste With taste. Okay, Not some you know, gourd, porno, trash or whatever like that. But if you have something with taste that we can actually talk about, please comment and we'll make. We'll make Mitch watch it next week All right. That does it for episode 21. Mitch say goodbye.

Speaker 3:

I hate you all.

Speaker 2:

Don't hate me, hate the wheel and hate him more, cause it was his idea, his idea.

Speaker 3:

It's your wheel, you get blamed through necessity.

Speaker 1:

Goodbye. It's his idea, it's your will you get blamed through necessity goodbye Tom, goodbye Tom, and goodbye me Hayden. Goodbye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye you.

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