Hitchcock's Masterpiece: Laughter, Espionage, and Hollywood Nostalgia

Ever wonder how a lighthearted idea involving Cary Grant and Abraham Lincoln's nose could inspire a Hitchcock masterpiece? Join us for an episode filled with laughter and nostalgia as we navigate the iconic film, "North by Northwest." We kick things off with playful banter about social media mishaps and a stroll down memory lane with past episodes. Our exploration takes a humorous twist as we unravel Hitchcock's creative genius, touching on his knack for blending comedy with thrilling espionage, all while showcasing American landmarks in a way that inspired the early James Bond flicks.

Next, we take a journey through cinematic history, sharing our fondness for the goofy action and witty dialogue that makes "North by Northwest" timeless. We reminisce about Cary Grant's undeniable charm and how his performance set the stage for the spy thrillers we know and love today. From auction showdowns to crop-duster chases, we explore the film's impact on the genre and reflect on other Hitchcock classics like "Vertigo" and "To Catch a Thief." Our lively discussion captures the essence of old Hollywood and celebrates the brilliance of Hitchcock's storytelling.

As we wrap up, we take a detour into the world of video games, TV shows, and football movies, injecting humor and excitement into every corner of pop culture. From debating game pronunciations and dissecting Korean TV series to testing our knowledge in football movie trivia, there's something for everyone. We gear up for our next episode on "The Princess Bride," inviting listeners to join the conversation on social media. With our team of hosts, Hayden, Mitch, and Tom.  We promise an entertaining blend of insights, laughter, and nostalgia, all wrapped up in a podcast you won't want to miss.

Transcript

Entertain This Podcast North by Northwest

Speaker 1 0:00

You ready, Mitch?

Speaker 2 0:01

Are you ready, kids?

Speaker 1 0:03

Are you ready kids? That's the OG intro.

Speaker 3 0:08

Don't talk over it. We might need to save the intro.

Speaker 2 0:11

No, I got to save now. I knew y'all couldn't resist, so I made sure I got one saved.

Speaker 1 0:18

Yeah, when you were yelling at us and I went to one and it's you going.

Speaker 2 0:23

Look, we're not going to bring up the fact that I over talked on some of them we all right hello and welcome to entertain this.

Speaker 1 0:30

It's a podcast about movies, tv shows and video games.

Speaker 3 0:34

Guys, my name is tom I'm mitch, I'm hayden, who, by the way, who I?

Speaker 2 0:41

don't know if I have that, let let's see. Oh, no Today.

Speaker 3 0:46

Somebody one of our you know promised listeners apparently complains that the flow of the podcast is now offset, because I have returned it is, and to you listener, we don't need you. We do need you. Don't listen to him. We know who you are. I won't name your name, what we know where you live.

Speaker 2 1:08

We know where you live.

Speaker 3 1:10

I'll have you know that this podcast couldn't exist without me, except for a year.

Speaker 1 1:16

Where it did spectacular.

Speaker 3 1:19

The flow of the podcast.

Speaker 1 1:21

Who are you, Mitch? Read the stats.

Speaker 3 1:26

What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 1:27

Social media. Oh yeah, Entertainthispodcastcom. Take it to our Facebook group and page. We also have entertain underscore. This, no wait.

Speaker 3 1:36

He almost said it. He almost said it.

Speaker 2 1:38

Entertain this underscore for X and Twitter. He was so close.

Speaker 1 1:43

It was right before this where he hit the record button. Mitch was just like flawlessly did how much wood could a woodchuck chuck? If a woodchuck could chuck wood, and Hayes was like why can't you do that when you read social media and not stutter?

Speaker 3 1:55

He's like I have to think about it. Well, stop thinking, mitch.

Speaker 1 1:57

Stop thinking. Thinking is stupid. You're not yourself when that's what we tell the kids. Don't think, just give up when they have us go teach the kids how to podcast.

Speaker 2 2:08

Sorry, that was out loud.

Speaker 3 2:10

Is this going to be before or after the Brady-Ryan After? Okay, so hey, you should have listened to the Brady-Ryan interview.

Speaker 1 2:18

And if he didn't, it'd be a lot cooler if he did.

Speaker 3 2:20

Yeah, it'd be a lot cooler if he did. Yeah, his up-and-coming actor. He's been in a couple movies.

Speaker 2 2:25

Black Phone.

Speaker 3 2:26

Harold with the Purple Crayon. I just want to point out that he's a local thespian, which is not a dirty word. As a person who acts.

Speaker 1 2:34

Is it thespian or thespian? I don't know, I'm just restraining comments.

Speaker 3 2:40

But good for him, good for somebody, one of our fellow Georgians, up and coming and making it successful. And frankly, you know what, I don't like you that much because you're 17 and way more successful than I am. Do less, mr 4.0.

Speaker 2 2:59

GPA. He makes us look bad at all points of life.

Speaker 1 3:06

Man, I wasted my high school career.

Speaker 3 3:07

Yeah, all right, so we did. How did we settle on North by Northwest?

Speaker 1 3:15

You picked it.

Speaker 3 3:16

Well, yeah, we both picked it because we did a trivia and y'all tied.

Speaker 1 3:19

We tied that's right. And then we just decided to punish Mitch Pretty much. We're doing this movie Pretty much yeah.

Speaker 3 3:25

I love that movie.

Speaker 1 3:26

It's a good movie I'll give you. It could be 20 minutes shorter.

Speaker 3 3:30

It's a lot of big review magazines like Empire and whatnot. They put it in their top 100 movies of all time and I think it holds you know, probably those magazines are people who are 100 years old.

Speaker 2 3:44

If your audience is 80 to 90 year olds, it's great. That's about how long ago the movie came out.

Speaker 1 3:48

I'm sorry, it wasn't directed by Michael Bay Mitch.

Speaker 2 3:51

You know, Cary Grant in explosions. It probably would have been better.

Speaker 3 3:55

This movie. Okay, if people don't like movies that aren't from you know, you know 1960.

Speaker 2 4:01

Yeah.

Speaker 3 4:01

It was 58, 59, 58.

Speaker 1 4:03

I think it was 54. It said 1960. When I saw it and then I think when I pulled it up, it said it was 1959.

Speaker 3 4:16

Obviously pre-1960 was when it was filmed. A lot of people call it the first James Bond movie because it's a spy thriller. Before James Bond was a big deal.

Speaker 1 4:22

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 4:24

And you know it did have a lot of trendsetting tropes like the bananas crazy plot, the makeshift action.

Speaker 2 4:33

Every girl that he met fell in love with him.

Speaker 3 4:35

Well, Like you know, to a degree you had the femme fatale. It is Cary Grant.

Speaker 1 4:41

It is Cary Grant. Yeah, okay, those eyes.

Speaker 2 4:46

That was something I wrote down. I was like how does every young woman find the middle-aged average guy irresistible To be?

Speaker 3 4:51

fair.

Speaker 1 4:52

It's just so tan.

Speaker 3 4:53

It's a little Hitchcockian with the shoehorning of the you know.

Speaker 1 4:58

Of romance, womanizing.

Speaker 3 5:06

So you know, but if you look at it like your dirty old grandpa and you're like, oh, hitchcock, you know you can just kind of like get over it. But uh, the, the monuments scene were that they spoof and family guy yeah they spoofed.

Speaker 1 5:15

When I saw it I was like, oh, this is when they stole the passion of the christ too. From mel gibson episode they, uh, they.

Speaker 3 5:23

That was a trendsetting thing too was to have a focal point in Americana that a lot of people could recognize and then put it into a movie. Now, every movie finds a way to do that. Spider-man did it. There's a lot of trendsetting things that happen in this movie that hasn't been done. It's nice to go to the source and talk about it.

Speaker 2 5:43

I think we can do it without. There's no point in saying spoiler-free, because it's kind of an old movie.

Speaker 3 5:49

So let's kind of go through the movie like the progress yeah look, if you're looking for the best meta-weapon Call of Duty episode of Entertain Us, this is not your episode, sorry.

Speaker 1 5:59

Sorry.

Speaker 3 5:59

Not my choice. If you want to talk about film and how movies became what they are, I think this is a great movie to launch off of, especially for action tropes.

Speaker 2 6:09

My idea is to talk about stuff that would possibly be trending, but no, we picked a movie from 70 years ago. I love this movie.

Speaker 1 6:17

I love the slight delay while he did the math yeah.

Speaker 2 6:21

He's like 70. I was about to say 60, and I was like no, it's actually about 70.

Speaker 3 6:26

Interesting notion. The actress, so how old do you think she was when they were filming that movie?

Speaker 2 6:33

She said she was 26 in the film, but I'm pretty sure she was like 38.

Speaker 1 6:37

I'm going to say she was 20. She was 34.

Speaker 3 6:41

And how old was Cary Grant?

Speaker 1 6:43

Probably in his 40s. I can tell by the neck 54. Was he 54? Wow.

Speaker 3 6:47

He was born in 1904, and she was born in 1924. And she is still alive, she's 101. Wow.

Speaker 1 6:59

Does she still look the same?

Speaker 3 7:00

No.

Speaker 2 7:02

She's 101, but she says she's 60.

Speaker 3 7:04

No, she's 101, but she says she's 60. She celebrated her centennial birthday last year with four generations of her family together. I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 7:13

That was cool.

Speaker 3 7:14

Yeah, you look at her acting credits. She started acting 1930-something. She's got over 70, 80 years of acting. Her last acting credit was the Legend of Korra, the Avatar TV show.

Speaker 2 7:30

Oh, so she was a voice actor, mm-hmm, yeah, I'm guessing she was an old woman. Probably she was a.

Speaker 1 7:36

She played a baby.

Speaker 3 7:38

Well, have you seen the Legend of Korra? Do you watch any of the Avatar?

Speaker 1 7:40

I remember watching the original, so the.

Speaker 3 7:42

Korra. One is like the sequel to the Avatar and the girl that was.

Speaker 1 7:47

The waterbender.

Speaker 3 7:48

Yeah, she's an old lady in a sequel series and she played the old lady's voice.

Speaker 2 7:54

Okay, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 3 7:55

I've seen some Avatar, but not yeah, I mean it'd be wild to be like the guy casting and he's like, yeah, we can get the girl from North by Northwest.

Speaker 1 8:03

It's like yeah we can get the girl from North by Northwest.

Speaker 3 8:05

It's like no, we can't.

Speaker 1 8:06

She's still alive. It's like, what are we going to do a seance so we can record it?

Speaker 3 8:10

She's still kicking, you know. So yeah, just to hear like working with Hitchcock, you know.

Speaker 1 8:16

Mitch, did you see Hitchcock's cameo?

Speaker 2 8:19

I don't know what Hitchcock looks like.

Speaker 3 8:22

So you should.

Speaker 2 8:24

He looks like you actually, mitch. He's an older white. Hey, hey, hey, he's an older white, bald guy with glasses.

Speaker 3 8:31

Yeah, he's got this like underbite his lip sticking out.

Speaker 2 8:34

He's the guy I have an underbite.

Speaker 3 8:35

He's got this guy With surgery you can. The cameo in this one was right when his name appears on the opening credits and the bus shuts in front of the door, in front of him.

Speaker 1 8:47

Like right in his face and then takes off and he's just like looking like what the heck?

Speaker 3 8:50

People thought that he actually had a rare two-part cameo and he was a woman in a drag later on, but it was confirmed later on that it was not him.

Speaker 2 8:57

And that woman just looked like that.

Alfred Hitchcock's North by Northwest

Speaker 3 9:01

So lots of interesting things about this. Usually, hitchcock dips deep into symbolism. Um, he does a lot of framing of what would be, uh, considered like an insignificant piece of film set and it would, uh, essentially mean something or foreshadow something to the rest of the plot of the movie. Where they put the name of the movie, yeah and uh, you know he had just finished I can't remember the movie that came before this, but he just did a big masterpiece movie and really wanted to do something goofy and not bound by symbolism. And, uh, he had an idea of a man, specifically curry grant uh, climbing into abraham l Lincoln's nose and making him sneeze. And that was the plot for the original concept for North by Northwest.

Speaker 2 9:49

And then some guy- Looks like it changed a good bit Well.

Speaker 3 9:53

Lehman the writer. He had heard of Project Mincemeat from World War II, which is where the British OSS is that what they were called back in time, Tom? Yeah, there you go, Our subject matter, British expert he. Project Midsmeet was where they placed wrong data on a, A dead body, A dead body, and then the Nazis found it and then made a battle plan based off of it.

Speaker 2 10:20

So they played into it. It was prior to D-Day Now is that part of the same plan where Patton had the inflatable tanks?

Speaker 1 10:27

essentially, yeah, it was part of all of that trying to see the British that they were going to land at Calais instead of Normandy.

Speaker 3 10:34

So Lehman came up with an idea of a fake spy. You know, america or some three-letter agency making a fake spy? Uh, america or some three letter agency, uh, making a fake spy. And then somebody, the bad guys attach all of that personality and identity of the fake spy to a just a random guy. Poor guy.

Speaker 3 10:53

And that was Cary Grant. It was almost kind of like Mr Magoo in some cases, where he just kind of stumbles into adventure, you know, which was fun, and it was like the perfect blend of like goofy happenstance but also some like enjoyable spy thriller, and to see it in its fruition the first of its kind was was really cool.

Speaker 2 11:12

How it played out, you know, and there were two parts of the movie that made me laugh, one because it was funny, and another part that was so stupid. Yeah, I think. Well, what were?

Speaker 1 11:20

these parts mentioned? Yeah, I think. Well, what were these parts, mitch?

Speaker 2 11:22

yeah, well, the first part that made me laugh because I thought it was funny was when he's doing the auction and he keeps bidding lower and lower and they're like sir, you can't sir, the bid's $2,100 $600 and then the part when they're like you know $25, $25, and he's like $13, and then they're like $13. What, no, no, yeah, because they thought he meant $1,300, and then he's like no, $13.

Speaker 1 11:45

And then they're like all right, $1,500. He's like $3,000. Yeah, and it's like sir, and he's just like what.

Speaker 2 11:52

My money's no good here. Yeah, it was that one.

Speaker 3 12:05

And then the part where he's being chased by the plane crashes into the truck.

Speaker 2 12:07

He gets out and he like trots away as it explodes. It just looked funny, so like.

Speaker 3 12:09

And then he steals a car that's. I love that scene.

Speaker 1 12:11

I love the crop testing scene, because, like the, I love farting it was, you see, uh uh born identity or uh the uh the.

Speaker 3 12:24

What's the? The the negotiator what's the the Negotiator? What's the one where Denzel Washington's like killing people with drills and stuff like that Equalizer, equalizer? You see those kind of movies and they just like makeshift action. So they had this idea. Originally they wanted a tornado and like he'd have to battle a tornado, but like the tornadoes didn't show up to the castle like uh, hitchcock is kind of like way up high all the time and he has a bunch of minions that are like bring him down like he is high yeah they're like no, we can't get a tornado for a movie.

Speaker 3 12:57

So, um, they settled on a crop duster and he had the great idea, so forgot what a downgrade they had. The great idea of like putting him in the scene where, like they're building suspense and you're waiting for him to be attacked from any direction.

Speaker 1 13:12

The crop duster is there in the background the whole time and the guy is like standing goes huh, so not even crop dusting the field yeah, yeah, there's no crops over there for him to crop test.

Speaker 3 13:22

And then you know, you know, you're like oh, and then you're like well, how is the crop testing action sequence going to play out? And they do it, they makeshift a beautiful action sequence, first of its kind.

Speaker 2 13:32

And you know the explosions. A beautiful meh.

Speaker 1 13:37

For 1959.

Speaker 3 13:39

It was goofy. They didn't do that, especially Hitchcock, because Hitchcock is a a uh like a, a textbook studio director. Everything's done in-house with like cranes and stuff, for them to be on a semi-location and making things work out like that pretty, pretty cool.

Speaker 2 13:56

see, uh, an outside the box kind of shot take off like that I can just tell you, if I lived in that time, I would not be a movie buff. I'd be like let's just go see a play. No, you would love it, mitch.

Speaker 3 14:10

Because you don't have the CGI explosions and the craziness and the realism of today back then.

Speaker 1 14:15

Yeah, this was like 20 years almost before Star Wars.

Speaker 2 14:19

I'm sure he was a big movie star back then, but he's just a tall, lanky guy with bad posture the whole movie.

Speaker 3 14:26

It doesn't matter, he's got pretty eyes and he can emote. All right, that's the qualifications. That was very small qualifications.

Speaker 1 14:34

He's effortlessly funny.

Speaker 3 14:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1 14:37

Like Cary Grant did not. He could just do Charmin Witt immediately.

Speaker 3 14:41

And the way that he did the drug scene where he's, like you know, forcibly intoxicated, famous. A lot of actors that act drunk. They use that as their like keystone to channel how to be drunk, and cary grant his famous line for that was a drunk man never thinks he's drunk, he's always trying his best to be sober you can see it in his face when he's driving. He's trying his best to be sober.

Speaker 1 15:04

You can see it in his face when he's driving. He's like blinking, he's like trying really hard, he's like ah.

Speaker 3 15:08

You know, I love the part where he's trying to tell the cops that got him that he's been kidnapped and they're like come on, come back to the drunk tank or whatever. He's like no, I need you to get the police, you get the, call the cops. The cops are like okay, yeah, we'll get them.

Speaker 2 15:31

I mean, I know the movie was older, but it's just. It was so bland, with a boring tone, the music was just like.

Speaker 1 15:39

What movie did you watch? It's just.

Speaker 3 15:41

I love the music it was. It was fun and granted like.

Speaker 2 15:44

I know it was older so the coloring is not going to be as great, but it's just. The whole thing was just boring and put me to sleep the entire time.

Speaker 3 15:51

So again studio production. They did a lot of matte set design where they would have like. Obviously Some of the scaling didn't work, especially on Mount Rushmore. One dude was almost the size of Abraham Lincoln's head and you're like they need to, kind of scale that down a little bit. But there was a couple of things that were kind of goofy looking.

Speaker 2 16:13

And I understand it's an older movie, but nowadays that's why it was boring to me, it was just dumb.

Speaker 3 16:20

I remember seeing this movie when I was a kid and people are battling on mount rushmore. I was like can you do that? Can you climb on mount rushmore?

Speaker 1 16:26

and fight somebody. Yeah, I challenge you to a duel, sir. I'll meet you on the top of george washington's head the.

Speaker 3 16:33

The weirdest, most jarring part I think of the movie is how long it is and slow and like methodical the plot gets. And then she's dangling off the cliff and he's trying to pick her up. He's like boom movie ends we're on the train, we're making love. Train smashes through a tunnel. Yeah, hitchcock admitted that. He did that on purpose. He's like yeah oh yeah, it was a shameless phallic shot. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 17:02

There was one scene where, like he meets Kendall at the hotel, like he shows up there and then he sees her, and then they like hug, but he does, like this weird thing with his hands. He's like doesn't touch her. It's like it was awkward.

Speaker 3 17:12

So 50s censorship, Big big thing into acting back in day when people are like, why do they kiss like two people holding mannequin? Heads just like mushing lips fight, fight, fight, kiss, kiss. Yeah, you know like that why? Why like? Well, it's because censorship back in the like.

Speaker 2 17:30

You couldn't even show a toilet yeah, you know, back in the 50s like it was considered offensive but why don't you just like lean in instead of put your hands in the screen to like not touch her?

Speaker 3 17:39

because they don't want them to be that close to an embrace. Yeah.

Speaker 1 17:42

You couldn't even like, have, like a bedroom. You couldn't even imply that they slept in the same bed.

Speaker 2 17:46

Yeah, it's just to not have them hug, let's just have them stand there and talk Like the first.

Speaker 1 17:50

TV couple you ever seen like in the same bed is like on the Brady bunch.

Speaker 2 17:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1 17:55

Everybody else had to have separate.

Speaker 2 17:58

What's the sitcom where it was like something over the moon was the title.

Speaker 1 18:04

Oh, the Honeymooners, the Honeymooners.

Speaker 2 18:06

Yeah, where you see both of them in two different beds.

Classic Films and Hollywood Nostalgia

Speaker 3 18:08

Yeah, their kid's just like immaculate conception one day. But yeah, so censorship was a big deal. There's a famous line where she says I don't talk about love on an empty stomach. The original line was I'll never make love on an empty stomach. The original line was I'll never make love on an empty stomach. But the censorship was like no, we can't refer to lovemaking.

Speaker 2 18:30

Well, that reminds me of the thing you sent to us the other day. You said that the Paw Patrol movie and Jaws are both rated PG.

Speaker 3 18:37

Shows you the advance of PG in the ratings. The morality police in Hollywood were just kind of I don't know. They were probably on drugs.

Speaker 1 18:45

Parental guidance for an animated kids movie about dogs as cops and firefighters versus 25-foot shark-eating people.

Speaker 3 18:54

It's got dog's eyes.

Speaker 2 18:55

Kids didn't watch movies.

Speaker 1 18:56

back then I don't know I mean, but I like how he just leans into being the guy yeah, this Kaplan dude eventually who doesn't even exist well, because he's in love with the girl you know, and in order to save her he's gotta assume the character.

Speaker 2 19:12

But yeah, he like he does it flawlessly, you know so and then you have the people when they're on the train for the first time and she's like hiding him in the luggage rack. It's like they search the room and don't think to look in there.

Speaker 3 19:25

Well, people were less invasive. Like you saw when he's like running to get on the train, there's like that old dude that's like hey, I need to see your face. And just runs past him.

Speaker 2 19:34

He was like ah, come back here. He just lets him go. Oh hey, Now they're putting on gloves and telling you to spread them.

Speaker 1 19:44

I just need to check your butthole, sir.

Speaker 3 19:48

So I love the goofy action too, Like when he's on Rushmore and the guy with the knife is trying to stab him and they have the slow, muscly tension-building moment. And then Cary Grant just gives up and pushes him off. That guy goes ah, you know, tension building moment. And then Cary Grant just gives up.

Speaker 1 20:02

It was like pushes him off that guy goes, or like the one dude's about, he's like stepping on his feet and then he gets shot from, like the other side of the revolver and then, like the professed guy is like good shot, sergeant, he's just like yeah, it's just like he one handed that.

Speaker 3 20:20

He was just like got him the the bad guy's. Like that's not fair. You use real bullets. He doesn't even care. There's like friends, dead.

Speaker 2 20:29

I'm not gonna lie, I think I missed that part.

Speaker 3 20:30

I was dozing in and out I was trying to stay awake for the movie the action was goofy, the setups and stuff.

Speaker 1 20:39

You know the punches, you know like the way back here, wind ups and stuff the hard part is like watching, because carrie grant has so many witty comments the entire movie. It's so hard but he's just so fast on doing it.

Speaker 3 20:54

That's why james bond is so campy, because they wanted to appeal to like carrie grant's like spotty one-liner wittiness and stuff like that. But I think they've taken it and bastardized the hell out of it. It's completely different now.

Speaker 1 21:08

The only person who did it the best was Connery yeah.

Speaker 3 21:11

Yeah, it's just diluted.

Speaker 1 21:14

He almost did it, just to be sarcastic.

Speaker 3 21:17

Yeah, it's all puns now, but you know it's a classic movie. I feel like every dude nowadays is like into spy thriller movies. And like to see the origin of it North by. Northwest. Who's got a bananas crazy like origin.

Speaker 2 21:33

It was originally called the man in.

Speaker 3 21:35

Lincoln's Nose. Yeah, and you know. Eventually they changed it to North by Northwest because Lehman had the finale of the movie take place in Alaska, so it started in. New York and it ended up in Alaska. But when they changed it to Rushmore they decided that, you know, there was no better title than North by Northwest anyways, which is a misnomer. Some people think it's referring to a compass, but you can't go north by northwest on a compass. You can go northwest by north, but not north by north. So they, I don't know.

Speaker 1 22:10

And then while he's at the airport, you see like northwest on everything.

Speaker 3 22:13

Yeah, northwest.

Speaker 1 22:14

They throw a lot of. There's a lot happening in every scene.

Speaker 3 22:17

For, like this, being Hitchcock's, like detachment from symbolism, he still can't help himself you know, so it's just a solid movie. There's there's some glaring issues you know, but like for what it was in its era. You know, it was considered the best, one of the best Hitchcock movies, if not the best.

Speaker 1 22:36

I don't know To catch a thief is still.

Speaker 3 22:39

Well, my favorite is vertigo. I love jimmy stewart way better than carrie grant, so I haven't seen vertigo in a very long time.

Speaker 1 22:45

Vertigo is a great. That's more of but mitch, probably he might like to catch a thief better.

Speaker 2 22:50

I mean to me like the stuff that's that old. I like like the uh three stooges, because it's like pure comedy the abbott costello. I like that and then I like the original. Like horror movies because they're the At least in the stuff that I like, but just like action and thriller To catch a thief.

Speaker 1 23:08

he's a retired like world-renowned.

Speaker 2 23:11

It started playing. When this one went off, that started playing.

Speaker 1 23:13

I turned it off though, and then someone starts being like his copycat so he kind of like has to go back into it to catch whoever it was.

Speaker 3 23:23

Yeah, like Hitchcock was always thinking of, how do I take a normative story, a narrative, and how do I spin it? What if there is no spy for North by Northwest?

Speaker 1 23:38

It's just a made-up.

Speaker 3 23:39

Some people were alluding in the creative process, like what if he was the spy all along? You know which? Today we would have been like oh, that's a cool idea, but like back then they're like nah, we're getting too far in the weeds with that that's not what they were thinking about.

Speaker 2 23:51

Reel it back in anyways, you don't have anything else you want to say about, do you, mitch? I'm sure you have lots of them.

Speaker 1 24:00

I mean, how many times can he say he hated it? It was boring.

Speaker 2 24:04

You're boring. Move on to some of our news.

Speaker 3 24:07

Good movie choice. Tom Good job Did.

Speaker 1 24:10

I pick Northman. We'll blame that on Tom.

Speaker 2 24:12

I was like wait a minute, but according to IGN, Warner Brothers is trying to make Goonies 2 and Gremlins 3 because they are supposedly in early development.

Speaker 1 24:21

I forgot, there was Gremlins 2.

Speaker 3 24:26

What was the big to-do about Gremlins 2?

Speaker 2 24:28

I don't even know. They go to some apartment store, isn't it? Or is that the one? That's the first one, okay, I don't remember 2, then I don't remember 2 either.

Speaker 1 24:35

I just remember the one in the trench coat going Ah they.

Speaker 2 24:39

They have. The live action trailer for how to Train your Dragons come out and Gerard Butler's playing his character still.

Speaker 3 24:44

Oh my God. I mean like for DreamWorks, how to Train your Dragon was a great movie.

Speaker 2 24:54

It really was. I'd never seen it until recently.

Speaker 1 24:56

How many times can we milk this?

Speaker 3 24:58

Well, yes, they franchised the absolute hell out of it. But like I remember seeing the first movie before my daughter was born, watching again when she was born, watching again, you know, when my son was able to watch and enjoy it, and I was like, yeah, this movie still holds up I mean, this is the first one. Let's make a live action version of it.

Speaker 2 25:14

I think it's the first one that they're really trying to follow the disney formula of making live action of their successful animated stuff.

Speaker 1 25:21

The quest for more money.

Speaker 2 25:23

They said that Tom Holland will play the lead in the Odyssey, which will be directed by Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 1 25:28

He's going to play Odysseus.

Speaker 2 25:29

It says he's playing the lead. It doesn't say that's going to be the character, but I would assume so.

Speaker 1 25:33

That is the main character of the Odyssey. What are they?

Speaker 2 25:36

going to have Achilles. I'm just saying they didn't say that's his role, but he's playing the lead.

Speaker 3 25:41

And then Jon Bernthal is also going to be a part of the Isn't Odysseus, an old man.

Speaker 1 25:46

He's gone for like 20 years, but he's the king of Ithaca.

Speaker 2 25:49

Maybe he could be Odysseus in the beginning, and then Bernthal ends up being Odysseus in the end?

Speaker 3 25:54

Yeah, they look so alike.

Speaker 2 25:55

Well, years and years past.

Speaker 1 25:57

Yeah, I mean, if you punch Tom Holland in the face, enough and break his nose 16 times and let it heal and break it again. He might just look like Jon Prenthal.

Speaker 3 26:05

I mean whatever.

Speaker 1 26:06

It's.

Speaker 3 26:06

Christopher.

Speaker 2 26:07

Nolan, though it's Christopher Nolan, it's got to be good right For him to do a mythic, you know epic.

Speaker 1 26:12

The time to do this would have been after the movie Troy, because they would have to the divergence from the realism that they had for troy to go to like the epic myth with you know, yeah, cyclopses

Speaker 2 26:34

yeah, I don't see how they could have pulled that off uh, this is just like some rumor, but supposedly they're working on a total war version of star wars for a game they've done that well, they're for star wars yeah yeah, I don't know, I don't think they're doing for star wars like the total war, where you're just doing the strategy stuff yeah, I swear they have another done it for, like halo and all sorts of others maybe like a mod, but I don't think a legit game uh, the next bit I have is kingstown.

Speaker 2 27:00

Is the mayor of Kingstown is having season four started? Oh wow, it's officially started and in the works. I thought it was over with season three, the way they ended it.

Speaker 3 27:08

They seemed pretty final about it.

Speaker 2 27:11

And then somebody commented while I was looking at this article here. Somebody commented at the bottom maybe Mike will have a good day. Finally, no, no good days, the movie the Toxic Avenger is officially getting an unrated wide theatrical release, which is the one that Peter Dinklage plays. The Toxic Avenger. Like doing the voice, oh man.

Speaker 1 27:31

Isn't that like from the 80s? Isn't that like a trauma film? It is yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker 2 27:35

Well, supposedly this movie wrapped in 2021.

Speaker 3 27:38

It's got a 92% on Rotten Tomatoes somehow, but with the two people that have seen it and are working for the movie but uh, it includes Peter Dinklage, elijah Wood, Kevin Bacon, jacob Tremblay and Taylor page are in the movie, so I mean it's like a comedy swamp thing, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 27:57

Uh, like I said, john Bernthal will be in, uh, the Odyssey also starring besides Zendaya. Like I said, jon Bernthal will be in the Odyssey also starring besides Zendaya. Who would have guessed? Anne Hathaway, matt Damon, charlize Theron, lupita, nyong'o, nyong'o.

Speaker 3 28:13

She's from it, or they or them, or something like that the Jordan Peele movie.

Speaker 2 28:19

And then, lastly, robert Pattinson will be in this as well.

Speaker 3 28:23

Interesting. Have you seen the trailer for the new Arbats movie coming out? Where he's like the space guy that can die over and over again. Okay, just watching, it's good.

Speaker 1 28:34

Watch the trailer, with Robert Pattinson in it, for some new movie. We don't know the name of it. Welcome to the.

Speaker 2 28:41

Warzone. I won't play the whole thing, but in the name of it, let's go Welcome to the war zone. I won't play the whole thing, but supposedly Black Ops 6, their season two, had announced they're going to be teaming up to introduce the Terminator. Didn't they already do that they're going to have a Terminator, didn't they do?

Speaker 1 28:58

that already.

Speaker 2 28:59

As far as I know no, I don't remember They've had Rambo. Yeah, die Hard, die Hard I might have been the one that was thinking. There's been a couple others. Let's see, they've got new maps, new gameplay, new zombie maps, new zombie weapons.

Speaker 1 29:15

I played last night. It sucks.

Speaker 2 29:16

Yeah, four new weapons for Warzone. They're going to be having the Shadow Hunt which they have.

Speaker 1 29:23

Operators of the Light Ninjas New ranked rewards there's some viral video that's going on now that I watched Jack Frags did. It's like Warzone, what went wrong, and it's going from the beginning of Warzone to how everything is now and a whole bunch of the other streamers are all watching those like hour plus videos of them, like reacting to it because it's got millions of views now.

Speaker 2 29:48

Well, yeah, I'll have somebody put like a short video on like TikTok, and it was Warzone what you started with, and it's like you know, military guys fighting and stuff it goes in Warzone. Now A guy has like a unicorn gun that takes off.

Speaker 1 30:01

Yeah, it's like farting rainbows.

Speaker 2 30:02

Yeah, the execution is he holds up the tail of the unicorn, it farts a rainbow out and kills the guy. It's like come on, no wonder nobody likes Call of Duty anymore. Mm-hmm, let me see, there's another. Oh, you got something about Call of Duty.

Speaker 1 30:16

Oh, tom always has something about Call of Duty. Yeah, he's already got this and, like z laner, did like an hour long video where they're talking because most of them left, like they won't play it anymore. Even guys who were pros and were like ranked in the top 10 in like the tournament runs, they won't play it anymore. They're like no, we're not playing this crap until you fix it.

Speaker 2 30:32

It's a military shooter. If you want to play rainbow unicorns, go play fortnight.

Speaker 1 30:36

Yeah, that's what I said. It's like you guys just became fortnight doing a money grab. Yeah, it's like we didn't mind paying for skins that were cool.

Speaker 2 30:43

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:44

And were like tactical, that's just a cosmetic thing, yeah. But when you got pay-to-win ones like the Rose skins or Black Noir, where you virtually just disappear, the Ice. Guy, the Ice Guy or certain ones where it's just like the screen can't process what you are, so it's just a head with a gun and you're almost invisible, or guns that are pay to win. It's like nobody wants that crap anymore.

Speaker 2 31:05

Yeah, the next bit of news I have there's a game called Dark Hours that's supposed to be coming out. It's out on Steam right now but it's supposed to be coming to consoles. But it's a co-op shooter horror. Where basically it's you and your team are in this dark building or warehouse or something. You have your guns, they have a flashlight on them and the object is to survive as long as you can.

Speaker 1 31:25

That sounds terrifying.

Speaker 2 31:26

I mean the video that I saw. It just shows these guys walking through the hallways with their flashlights. They'll turn a corner. Their monster will be running at them. They're going to shoot and kill it or run away.

Speaker 3 31:36

Let's play it. It does sound fun.

Video Game Announcements and Reviews

Speaker 2 31:38

I don't want to be a pirate. They said another bit of news the first look at the Accountant 2 with Ben Affleck and Jon Bernthal will be releasing in theaters on April 25th. Didn't Jon Bernthal die in the first one? No, he got shot, but they didn't meet at the end. They both got shot and then both of them kind of walked away at the end.

Speaker 3 32:00

Leaving it open for a sequel ten years later.

Speaker 1 32:04

Didn't you get shot in the face.

Speaker 2 32:06

Let's see what was the name of this movie. I'll skip that because I can't find the name of it. Anyways, ninja Gaiden 4. They've announced that Gaiden, gaiden, whatever, ninja Gaiden Look, I did it for the comedy, yeah okay.

Speaker 1 32:23

Mitch is well known for not being able to pronounce or enunciate certain words.

Speaker 3 32:27

Essentially yeah, he said four because three came out 15 years ago. Yeah, it's been announced.

Speaker 2 32:33

Surprise announcement. Surprise announcement from Koei Tecmo's Team Ninja, in conjunction with Platinum Games. It says picking up after the story of Ninja Gaiden 3,. The reveal trailer shows off a cyberpunk-esque Tokyo in chaos, as a new ninja protagonist named Yukamo takes center stage. It says it'll be, you know, for Xbox it'll be on Game Pass and also be available on PlayStation 5.

Speaker 3 32:59

Ninja Gaiden was Dark Souls before Dark Souls, so like it is a hard game, like I don't think if people are looking for a cool, fun, stealth action game like this generation is not ready for it.

Speaker 1 33:17

Unless they dumbed it down.

Speaker 3 33:19

I hope not.

Speaker 2 33:20

But they do have a Ninja Gaiden 2 remake, Like they just redid the graphics and stuff. It's out on Xbox Game Pass right now.

Speaker 1 33:26

I think they asked like the guy that did Dark Souls and it's like, can you make like a level selector for like easy or hard? And he's just like get good.

Speaker 2 33:33

Yeah, but the Ninja Gaiden 4 is out there, which is also like pre-install status. Let's see, you're part of a story that shows alongside a new story trailer that shows hero Hazel searching for her mother in the wake of a powerful hurricane. As she searches for her mother and begins unraveling her family lineage, she learns she is a weaver one who can wield magic power and see the threads of fate that connect to one another. Dream weaver and basically it explores southern gothic lore.

Speaker 3 34:07

You're a weaver Harold. I've seen this trailer. It's got like a claymation kind of vibe to it.

Speaker 2 34:14

It does.

Speaker 1 34:15

It should be. You're a weaver, harry. Then it cuts to him making a basket and just going. I was incredibly misled.

Speaker 2 34:20

Let's see there's Expedition 33. Puts a new twist on the turn-based RPGs that will release in April.

Speaker 1 34:28

What happened to 1 through 32?

Speaker 2 34:30

Expedition 33, I don't know. Then you got Doom, the Dark Ages. That I'm excited about. It looks pretty cool. Doom, they talk about that.

Speaker 3 34:41

you can have a mech or a cybernetic dragon that you use in some levels, that is, they talk about that. You can have a mech or a cybernetic dragon that you use in some levels. That was pretty cool. I played Doom. I can't remember what the last one was.

Speaker 1 34:48

Was it Doom Eternal?

Speaker 3 34:48

Yeah, doom Eternal. I played that one and beat it, and that is also a very hard game. You've got to get good in that one too. But it's such a fast shooter To learn how to move and shoot. It makes you feel like you're slide canceling Call of Duty. If you go in with Call of Duty tactics, you're going to die.

Speaker 2 35:13

Doing an interview. They called this a return to form for Bethesda. They said that it aimed to shift the feeling of Doom again. Whereas Doom Eternal wanted to make you fight like a fighter jet, dark Ages makes you an iron tank who can stand your ground.

Speaker 3 35:26

That's kind of their idea for this one We'll see what it's like.

Speaker 2 35:30

It says it released on May 15th of this year.

Speaker 3 35:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2 35:34

Let's see. They're Fallout Season 2. They've been in production with it, trying to get it filmed for this next season. Just go ahead and pronounce the name on the top left.

Speaker 3 35:45

Eddie Kooch no.

Speaker 2 35:49

In the gray oh.

Speaker 3 35:50

Oh, come on then, johnny yeah.

Speaker 2 35:51

Yeah, he's uh. Look, look, you wanted me to pronounce it, I just go ahead.

Speaker 1 35:56

What's this word? The sounded sounded out, mitch sounded out but now he's the real.

Speaker 2 36:04

Uh comedic, um I guess. I don't know if he's pakistani or uh I think he's like indonesian maybe okay, uh, but if you say he's, he's a real comedic guy, that he's. He's been in a lot of things like uh he's the eternals guy yeah, he was in eternals, he was in star wars, it's like oh yeah met him, you know pretending to be a Jedi?

Speaker 1 36:21

Yeah, he had like magnets and nonsets.

Speaker 3 36:23

Yeah he was a TV actor for some. Oh wasn't. It. Wasn't it Silicon Valley? I can't remember what it was. It might have been Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 36:37

Oh, so you got Gears of War E-Day. What does it be the story of E-Day? So you got Gears of War E-Day? It'll be the story of E-Day 14 years before the original Gears of War, where Marcus Fenix and Dom Santiago return home to face a new nightmare Santiago Shut up.

Speaker 3 36:50

San Diego.

Speaker 1 36:52

San Diego.

Speaker 3 36:53

And.

Speaker 1 36:53

Johnny San Francisco team up for the.

Speaker 2 36:56

Summer.

Speaker 1 36:57

Slam.

Speaker 2 37:01

Anyway, they said it's going to focus a lot more. You'll have to see the kind of weapons they had before they started developing stuff for.

Speaker 1 37:08

Is Larry Los Angeles in this too? Shut up, Sally Sacramento.

Speaker 2 37:16

They brought up in this article Bernard Burkley, billy Boise Ghost of Yotai, which will be a sequel to the Ghost of Tsushima.

Speaker 3 37:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2 37:25

Look at all these tough words. Look at all these tough words, Tsushima. Look when you start looking up articles, you can start talking again.

Speaker 1 37:35

Yeah, but Mitch, I know how to read.

Speaker 2 37:37

Well then, prove it by actually doing some work on this podcast. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 37:40

Oh wow, hey, was anybody else going to come up with Larry Los Angeles I think not.

Speaker 2 37:49

Also, there's a Phantom Blade Zero game coming out. It says it's far too long since we've received a proper Ninja Gaiden.

Speaker 1 37:53

Gaiden. Gaiden, thank you for proving my argument, my bad.

Speaker 2 37:58

It says Phantom Blade Zero looks like it will scratch the itch for a fast-paced action that'll keep players on their toes. Only problem is the Ninja Gaiden 4 just came out, yeah.

Speaker 3 38:07

Or are fixing to come out. Yeah, we'll see which is the better. Gaiden, who's?

Speaker 2 38:13

better, oh sorry.

Speaker 1 38:15

Which Gaiden is Gaiden?

Speaker 2 38:17

And there's the game Marathon that I think you've heard about it, hadn't you For marathon that I think you've heard about, it hadn't you?

Speaker 3 38:21

for Bungie. Yeah, it was before. Halo came out, they did marathon, which was like a really. It looked like a really old screensaver on computers where you just go down hallways.

Speaker 1 38:31

They've kept this that's what soda drink.

Speaker 2 38:32

A pro looked like since it was first revealed. In 2023, the extraction shooter could be a make or break game for Bungie. Not only will it be in competition with other established players in this scene, it's also aiming to avoid cannibalizing its own player base from Destiny 2.

Speaker 1 38:47

Yeah, Destiny 2's still hanging out strong, which is wild because Halo Infinite bombed.

Speaker 2 38:53

They came out with that last part which was like the final light or something like that, which they said was really good. They said Like they said it was close to being on par with, like the what's the last Shadow of the Earth tree.

Speaker 1 39:03

as far as like content available that they added, I mean, we haven't played Destiny in like what two years yeah.

Speaker 3 39:13

I can't imagine how far behind we are.

Speaker 1 39:15

Well, it's a money trail Like okay, look, it's like World of Warcraft. They just released new parts of a map, the game's free guys, but you can only.

Speaker 2 39:23

It wasn't when we came out and I bought it.

Speaker 3 39:25

Yeah, you can only do so much in the game. Unless you buy this DLC. It's only 20 bucks, it's you didn't.

Speaker 1 39:31

You got the game for free Three more months I got another 20 bucks we beat the game and then we were doing like the what is it Like? The trial, the Champions Runs or whatever they're called. I don't remember Like you had to have six people in the fire team. The raids and next thing, you know, hayden's yelling at Pez Pez rage quits. We got to call Pez Coax him back. I was playing with y'all that night, britt falls asleep at the controls and he's just running into a wall we're shouting his name and you could hear snoring on his mic Cooperation and coordination.

Speaker 2 40:00

Destiny is like.

Speaker 3 40:01

I feel like there's a lot of older people that play it, but, like there's always, there's not six old gamers that can like cohesively you know, there's just going to be like two or three of us that are just like what button, what button do I press? How?

Speaker 1 40:15

do? I do this.

Speaker 2 40:16

Where are we? Supposedly the Horizon, what was it? Horizon Zero Dawn?

Speaker 3 40:22

Zero Dawn.

Speaker 2 40:22

Zero Dawn. They're making a Horizon multiplayer game, or attempting to get that made, which would be kind of interesting to see how it would work.

Speaker 1 40:30

Did you guys see the preview for the Nintendo Switch 2?

Speaker 3 40:33

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 40:34

Oh, let's just make it bigger.

Speaker 3 40:35

Well, no. So they showcased the peripherals, the little Joy-Cons.

Speaker 1 40:42

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 40:42

So now they snap and don't slide in, which is cool because I broke a billion of those things and two they showcased them running around like mouses, like mice on your computer mouse. So a lot of people are thinking that PC games that only work on PC, like RTSs and stuff like that, Nintendo's dipping into that library of games, so you can play mouse scrolling games and stuff now which is an interesting idea for a console.

Speaker 3 41:15

Yeah, so imagine playing StarCraft, because they have also announced that the Game Pass is going to be available on Switch as well. So, you can play Xbox games, Halo or StarCraft now On Nintendo Switch. On Nintendo Switch. The future is wild, that's all I'm saying. The future is gnarly.

Speaker 2 41:34

Another bit of news I have is still kind of a rumor, but they're going to start filming the Lanterns TV show for DC. Start filming in February. It'll be eight episodes I'm not watching that. Eight episodes and it's supposed to take place in the world before Supergirl the movie comes out, so it'll be after Superman, but between Superman and Supergirl movies I don't care.

Speaker 1 41:59

Don't care at all.

Speaker 2 42:00

And then the last bit I have is Netflix is raising its prices once again as it discusses vision for video games.

Speaker 3 42:07

What do you mean it has video games? They're not good.

Speaker 2 42:10

Well, they have mobile games.

Speaker 3 42:10

You can download. I'm glad it was fun. Yeah, it's got Bloons Tower Defense.

Speaker 2 42:14

I got my phone their standard subscription will go up from $7 to $8. Standard without ads will go from $7 to $8. Standard without ads We'll go from $15 to $18. Yeah, well, you got to pay double. And then, well, $15 to $18 without ads.

Speaker 3 42:33

I know, but like oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 42:35

And then their premium goes from $23 to $25. I don't know what premium is.

Speaker 3 42:39

They just come to your house. I'm giving up.

Speaker 2 42:41

I'm willing to watch ads for half the price.

Speaker 1 42:45

I don't know but the whole point was, it was cheap and they advertised it no ads Exactly, you could stream and watch it at your house.

Speaker 3 42:51

Now you just have streaming services that are like cable and sometimes the ads, the people who decide when they go in to cut the ads it could be mid-sentence of dialogue, like a really intense scene. Somebody's pulled a gun about to shoot somebody and then, like all of a sudden, the Squarespace ad pops up and you're just like well, I guess I'm watching this here at Allstate.

Speaker 2 43:12

Tubi's the worst about it, because I remember watching me and another person at work. We're watching something and no joke, I think we had the same ad three or four times in a row. She was like, if this comes on one more time, we're changing the movie. It came on and she's like I did, she just clicked it.

Speaker 3 43:32

Sometimes you have to watch a bad movie on Tubi, and the ads are a nice break.

Speaker 1 43:37

It's like oh, thank God.

Speaker 2 43:41

So did you all have any other news or anything you want to talk about?

Speaker 1 43:45

I watched the show. Oh, you did, what did you watch? I watched Squid Game Season 2.

Speaker 3 43:49

I also watched Squid Game. I finished it. I also finished it.

Speaker 1 43:52

Did you watch it, mitch? I did not, yet I liked it.

Speaker 3 43:55

I didn't like it as much as the first one.

TV Show Analysis and Game Review

Speaker 1 43:57

Well, I think it's just because the shock and style of the first one has worn off, Because you know they're all going to die, Except in this instance where a lot of them died but not all of them. I was rooting for Korean grandma mom. The entire time. I was like please don't let anything happen to that woman.

Speaker 3 44:15

My wife was like, well, so she hadn't seen the first season. So I was like, let's watch the first season, dig it, then we'll get into the second season. So I had to leave and I came back and she's watching it dubbed and I'm like no, but she was already.

Speaker 1 44:33

Learn Korean and watch it.

Speaker 3 44:34

She was already invested into it. So I watched all of first season dub, which is rough and then. But she was like rooting for the old guy, right? She's like if the old man man dies, we're not finishing the show and I was like, oh, you should, you should probably just just just grit and bear it, you know. And then when she found out like what he is at the end of season one, she was like okay you know, and then we started season two and I made her watch us up.

Speaker 3 45:06

Finally, she adapted like a good person and, yeah, it started off strong. I liked the character change for the main guy, how he got more serious and he's, like you know, kind of like off the rails with a ton of money.

Speaker 3 45:23

A little goofy how he got back into the games and then them changing the games up, I thought was a really cool idea. Um, but like, almost like they anticipated him being there, you know what I mean which is kind of I don't know. I mean a little bit of a plot hole, I think, and the big twist at the end which wasn't a twist because you knew it was coming in the entire time.

Speaker 1 45:46

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 45:47

That was. They were just like okay now, now we decide to do it.

Speaker 1 45:51

The my favorite episode is when they have to do the five people team challenge.

Speaker 3 45:57

Oh, the six legged race, the six legged race.

Speaker 1 46:08

And the crazy lady like, who's like a witch, yeah. And then the transgender Korean guy who's turning into a woman just grabs her and slaps the crap out of her. She's like a play-doh. She's like, pull yourself together, yeah. And then the other team they go and do it, and they do the first one and he nails it. He hits the brick with the other brick.

Speaker 3 46:22

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 46:22

And then they had to do like the jumping jacks thing.

Speaker 3 46:26

Yeah, which was like I would have died. I would have died. I was like I don't have that coordination.

Speaker 1 46:31

And you're watching, like other teams like mess it up. And it's like, oh, I've never seen this person yet. They're all going to die. It's like I can tell you that right now. And then they get to the third guy. He aces it immediately. And then the guy who's undercover he's just messing it up royally.

Speaker 3 46:53

You're like is he doing this on purpose? Yeah, so, yeah, it's interesting. My wife brought up a good point. She's like so every year 456 people disappear from Korea A lot of them are homeless. I'm like, yeah, we're kind of like, she's like, but don't you think like people would investigate that? That's a lot of people every year.

Speaker 1 47:14

Over a country.

Speaker 3 47:15

Yeah, but I mean it's Korea, it's South Korea.

Speaker 1 47:18

For all we know, it's happening here.

Speaker 3 47:20

True, I mean, yeah, there's hundreds of millions of people, right?

Speaker 2 47:23

But like South Korea, the illegal immigrants get to stay. I don't know.

Speaker 1 47:27

All right, let's see what the population is of South Korea.

Speaker 3 47:30

I was trying to explain it away like, oh, maybe it's systemic, like the government knows they're a part of it. She's like uh-huh.

Speaker 1 47:38

These are government officials.

Speaker 3 47:39

Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 47:40

Officials that want to participate and bet on the game.

Speaker 3 47:42

Yeah, they didn't really 51.7 million people. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 47:48

You're not going to notice 456 people over an entire country, especially when most of them are homeless or destitute. Just kind of go.

Speaker 3 48:01

Well, I was kind of hoping that season two would dip a little bit more into the people behind the shadows making the game. What do they call them, the VIPs, who they were and what all that was about Season three.

Speaker 1 48:11

I think they said season three is the last season.

Speaker 3 48:13

Yeah, they've announced it last season, which I think they said is supposed to come out at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 48:17

End of this year. Yeah, Someone said they filmed these almost back to back. You know that the first season.

Speaker 3 48:26

the guy who made it made zero money because the way that he got access to film the show was through Netflix and Netflix basically owned the entirety of the show, so he made almost no money. So the reason why season two took so long to come out was to negotiate a deal where he would get paid reasonable, which is fair. So now he's making bank. Good for fair and um you know. So now he's he's making bank.

Speaker 2 48:45

So good for him. Well, I watched the show. It's an older show so I don't feel like I'm spoiling anything, is it? But I kind of mentioned to you I was watching how I met your mother and I haven't. I'm through season eight and I started watching it around Christmas.

Speaker 3 48:59

I watched the entire day of the show Back in Afghanistan. I hate that show.

Speaker 2 49:04

I love it. It's really funny they're all terrible people. I've heard that you don't find out who she actually is. Yeah, you do see her face. Okay, I wasn't sure, or not, because I had heard people say that you don't find out at the end, you don't actually see her face.

Speaker 3 49:16

It's Lily I don't seen that character when she shows up in the show you're going to be like, that's the mother.

Speaker 2 49:29

I've been watching it so far. I have to say not like trying to pick up girls, but Hayden is definitely Barney with ideas. He's always spitting out oh we should do this, oh, we can do that.

Speaker 1 49:41

He's just not wearing a suit. He's not trying to pick up women all the time or suit pajamas, but he's always got ideas like that.

Speaker 3 49:48

I have a morale patch of Barney Stinson. I'll see if I can find it. I do Keep talking while I find it.

Speaker 2 49:54

I just found that character funny. I was like that reminds me of Hayden when it comes to pitching ideas for things. Yeah, I mean, it is a good character and it's one of those you start off and they're just all really funny and then you start as the seasons go on, you're like oh, poor guy it's really hilarious, though poor Ted. I love when Marshall's counting down the slaps and they extend that over seasons.

Speaker 3 50:19

There's one where he's like, that's two the thing that got him was that he gets six slaps or whatever, yeah, and he carries it for like a whole season.

Speaker 2 50:31

More than that. He's only on season. They started that in like season four. I'm in season eight and he still has two more.

Speaker 3 50:36

But he, like he uses it the smartest way possible where, like he'll, like Barney, will say something stupid to marshall and marshall like wind up, and then he'll flinch like it's gonna happen and it'd be like no, it'll just like, get him at the most inopportune time, like one of the more recent ones that I saw.

Speaker 2 50:54

He's like puts on the computer, turns it around. There's a countdown for slapsgiving. It's thanksgiving. It's like at this time on this day, it's like dreading it.

Speaker 3 51:05

You know, uh, uh, like there's an episode where, oh my God, look how young you are. It's a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, there's a. There's an episode where, like, uh, uh, it's a sad episode I don't know if you made it there yet or Marshall's dad.

Speaker 2 51:18

Yeah.

Speaker 3 51:19

Okay, okay, I'm almost done with season eight. In the background there's a clock in every shot where it's slowly counting down.

Speaker 2 51:26

Yeah.

Speaker 3 51:27

And you think it's going to be like they make it obvious enough where you realize something's going to happen and you think it's going to be his wife going to labor or something like that. But then you find out it's his dad died. And you're like no In the fields.

Speaker 2 51:41

And then you have the episode where him and Lily want to have kids and then in every I think it's that one when every time they see each other, she sees Lily, sees her dad, because Marshall's always coming up with these ideas for games and she's like ah, so then you see her dad coming in to give her a kiss, and then Marshall sees his dad and Lily. So the two actors that play their dads are like he's in a nightgown, like leaning in, like they're going to kiss. It's like, oh God, it's really funny. I've enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 52:12

It is a great show. That and I've been playing.

Speaker 2 52:17

Baldur's Gate. I love that game. Tom would love it too if he played. It's the first game that I get it. Like I said told you earlier, it's the first game since Elden Ring that I've actually enjoyed just sitting down and playing.

Speaker 3 52:27

The best. Thing about this game.

Speaker 1 52:29

Welcome to money, where we talk about money is that it's a turn-based game.

Speaker 3 52:34

I hate that.

Speaker 1 52:34

Well see.

Speaker 3 52:36

I know it turns people off when you say that, but there's so much happening when the game pauses that lets you think You're like oh okay, what are my options here? And it's nice because it's at your own pace. It's like a tabletop.

Speaker 2 52:51

RPG and to me the turn-based part is just like a minor part, because most of it's the story. You're making the choices and then, like Hayden told me, it's like you don't have to just straight up fight them. You can dip your sword in the grease and then put it in the fire and have a flaming sword those kind of things.

Speaker 3 53:07

There's a billion ways to skin this cat in the game.

Speaker 2 53:10

Because there was one character, four, there are four ways. Me and my team could not beat this enemy. So I did a trick I left my team out. I went down by myself, fought or you know, started the bad guy process, like where he starts coming out. I got the item I needed and then I just jumped away and ran off, because I had a special power to where I could like teleport basically. So I just ran away with the item instead of fighting the guy.

Speaker 1 53:34

Brave Mitch running away. It was the only thing to do. I tried. Mitch is not known for bravery in video games.

Speaker 2 53:40

The guy I was fighting was in the forge and basically he was immune to everything other than like hammers, but my guys aren't strong enough to fight him with a hammer because it does like five damage to him and he has 300 health points. I even called in like these three giant ogres and they just beat on him and nothing happened.

Speaker 3 53:57

Oh, you got the ogre thing. Yeah, that's nice. I never used it, I just killed the ogres.

Speaker 2 54:00

Oh well, I've got it on standby, just in case I need it.

Speaker 1 54:04

Just in case. But, because I couldn't beat that guy, I just stole it and ran away.

Speaker 3 54:09

Yeah, like an Elden Ring, it's just like I could fight this dragon or I could get on Torrent and ride around. I beat the boss, by the way, the snake boss in Elden Ring by myself.

Speaker 1 54:19

Who Riker?

Speaker 3 54:20

No, the other one, the sneaky guy in the DLC. Oh, Mesmer, yeah, I beat him and I beat three of those Fleming basket dorks.

Speaker 1 54:29

That was a pain, but I beat them. Yes, they are a pain.

Football Movie Trivia and Movie Selection

Speaker 2 54:31

All right. Well, we've got to kind of move on because we're running out of time.

Speaker 3 54:34

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 54:34

Who came up with trivia, so we can try and pick our next movie.

Speaker 3 54:37

All right, Are you actually no, no Well don't worry.

Speaker 2 54:42

Oh Nah, let me get my phone right now. No, because one of us had to do something that was trending, to try and get our stuff to be seen a little more.

Speaker 3 54:52

I can already see the title is what's that Title is episode Mitch's trivia is going to be a title and then, like in sub quotes at the very bottom. North by Northwest review.

Speaker 2 55:01

Football movie trivia oh no, because the Super Bowl is going to be coming out, that's true. What?

Speaker 1 55:07

Way to be current.

Speaker 3 55:07

Mitch, why do you do this to?

Speaker 1 55:08

me Mitch. I wish it was like Super Bowl trivia.

Speaker 2 55:11

No, this is just about characters who directed some of the movies. I tried to cater them to where Hayden?

Speaker 3 55:17

had a chance. This is my buzzer. What you want here.

Speaker 2 55:21

But see, the point is, though, we're not doing punishments anymore, so if you win, you just get to pick the next movie, remember. So if Tom wins, he's just going to pick the movie. Stop scratching your beard. Gosh annoying. Anyway, starting, let's see there's 20 questions. I kind of limited it to that. So, number one in the replacements what is the name of the character Keanu Reeves plays?

Speaker 1 55:45

Shane, that so number one in the replacements. What is the name of the?

Speaker 3 55:46

character Keanu Reeves plays Shane Falco. Yes, johnny, utah Different movie.

Speaker 2 55:51

Alright. Number two in Remember the Titans. What was the name of the Titan school? Columbia.

Speaker 3 55:59

You have no idea.

Speaker 2 55:59

I can just look at his face and he's like Gah.

Speaker 3 56:06

Was it Catholic? No Public school George Washington.

Speaker 2 56:13

No.

Speaker 3 56:14

Thomas Edison.

Speaker 2 56:16

You give up.

Speaker 1 56:18

Yeah, I don't know TC Williams High School. That was my next guess.

Speaker 2 56:21

I knew it was Number three In Friday Night Lights. What was the name of Billy Bob Thornton's team?

Speaker 1 56:31

The Mustangs no Okay.

Speaker 2 56:33

That was actually the team I faced in the playoff.

Speaker 1 56:35

Oh, was it the championship. The Oilers.

Speaker 2 56:37

No, the Permian Panthers. Oh no, number four, number four. What team did Kevin?

Speaker 1 56:45

Costner manage in draft day the Cleveland Browns yes.

Speaker 2 56:50

Doing great, doing great Thanks.

Speaker 3 56:58

Who directed any given Sunday? John, no, okay, johnny Utah.

Speaker 2 57:08

Make one guess, and then I'll give y'all a hint.

Speaker 1 57:16

Al Pacino, it's not Al Pacino. 90s actors. 90s directors 90s directors.

Speaker 2 57:24

Ridley Scott. No, this person also directed Born on the Fourth of July and Platoon.

Speaker 3 57:29

Oliver Stone.

Speaker 2 57:30

Yes, damn it that's right I had to give.

Speaker 1 57:32

Hayden, some kind of, some kind of points.

Speaker 2 57:34

I guess I'll give him. Give him that kind of question. Number six who played in both Rudy and the Replacements, jon?

Speaker 1 57:40

Favreau yes. Oh, and the Replacements. Jon Favreau, yes.

Speaker 3 57:44

Oh, I was going to say Ashton.

Speaker 1 57:47

Sean.

Speaker 3 57:47

Ashton.

Speaker 2 57:47

Sean Ashton. No, let's see Number seven and Jerry Maguire.

Speaker 3 57:53

Who is Jerry's client? The actor.

Speaker 2 57:55

I'll take either one.

Speaker 3 57:56

Okay, kubo Gooding Jr. Yes, thank God, because you didn't know.

Speaker 2 58:01

Do you know his name in the movie Money?

Speaker 1 58:04

No, Reggie Williams.

Speaker 2 58:06

Rod Tidwell. Rod Tidwell, I would have taken either one Number eight, who played the lead in Brian's song or leads.

Speaker 1 58:14

Billy Dee Williams and James Caan yes, those. Can I get bonus points if I tell you what football players they played?

Speaker 2 58:23

No, Damn it. Number nine In the movie Invincible Vince Papali, played by who?

Speaker 3 58:30

That would be.

Speaker 1 58:31

Mark Wahlberg. Yes, that was an easy question.

Speaker 2 58:33

It was. I couldn't make them too hard. I had to get paid in a chance. Let's see Number 10. Who starred in the original Longest Yard?

Speaker 3 58:42

That would be Burt Reynolds. Yes.

Speaker 2 58:45

And number 11. In we Are Marshall who plays the main.

Speaker 3 58:53

You heard Matt first. You know you did. Alright, it was Matthew McConaughey, no.

Speaker 1 59:00

Can you finish the whole question?

Speaker 2 59:02

Let's see In. We Are Marshall, who plays the main focus as a football player. Who's the main football player they talk to? Oh Not the player's name, but the actor who plays him.

Speaker 1 59:14

I have no clue.

Speaker 2 59:15

Ryan Gosling no.

Speaker 1 59:17

I have no idea.

Speaker 2 59:18

Anthony Mackie.

Speaker 1 59:19

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that one, number 12.

Speaker 3 59:25

The movie the Express takes place in what decade? 70s, no, the 60s yes.

Speaker 2 59:28

Y'all are always good at that.

Speaker 3 59:30

Yep.

Speaker 2 59:31

One guesses the other, one guesses it right.

Speaker 3 59:34

Well, it's usually me guessing wrong.

Speaker 1 59:36

There's no reason to change it.

Speaker 2 59:38

Number 13. Who plays the coach in Varsity Blues?

Speaker 3 59:43

Who plays the coach in Varsity Blues? Who plays the coach is? I can't remember the guy's name. Do you remember the actor's name?

Speaker 1 59:51

Is it something Chandler?

Speaker 2 59:52

No, he's also the dad in National Treasure.

Speaker 1 59:57

Oh, john Voight, yes.

Speaker 2 59:58

Damn it, number 14. In the Blind Side, who plays Michael Ward's?

Speaker 1 1:00:06

Sandra Bullock.

Speaker 2 1:00:07

All right, you got half of it.

Speaker 3 1:00:11

And the husband.

Speaker 2 1:00:13

Yeah, who's the mom and dad?

Speaker 3 1:00:16

Which is Nobody remembers the husband. No. No, he's a pretty popular person, dan Aykroy, husband no.

Speaker 2 1:00:25

No, he's a pretty popular person.

Speaker 3 1:00:27

Dan Aykroyd no.

Speaker 2 1:00:30

He's not normal. Well, at that time he wasn't an actor very much. He's been in more stuff since.

Speaker 3 1:00:38

I have no idea. Billy Bob Thornton, no, no.

Speaker 2 1:00:43

But he was in a movie with Billy Bob Thornton. No, no, but he was in a movie with Billy.

Speaker 3 1:00:46

Bob Thornton, friday Night Lights. Oh Crap, what is his name.

Speaker 2 1:00:51

He sings country music.

Speaker 3 1:00:57

Garth Brooks no, tim McGraw yes, damn it. Okay, I'll give you both a point, because you got each got one Shotgunning country, guys, tim.

Speaker 2 1:01:05

McGraw and Sandra Bullock play the mom and dad who was the Rock's assistant coach.

Speaker 3 1:01:14

Adam Sandler no.

Speaker 1 1:01:18

Ving Rhames.

Speaker 2 1:01:19

No, it's a rapper and also MTV host.

Speaker 1 1:01:23

Oh Exhibit.

Speaker 3 1:01:24

Yes, the guy that wants to put.

Speaker 1 1:01:28

Who wants to pimp your ride? We heard you like you just been.

Speaker 2 1:01:34

Number 16. Who plays the antagonist coach in Little Giants?

Speaker 1 1:01:41

It's Al Bundy.

Speaker 2 1:01:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:01:53

What's his real name, uh?

Speaker 3 1:01:55

uh, is it phil? No, no, uh, crap, what is his real name? Hayden fox. That's from the tv show.

Speaker 1 1:02:03

Al no, no, I'm blanking on that guy's name.

Speaker 2 1:02:08

I don't remember Ed O'Neal Ed.

Speaker 1 1:02:10

O'Neal God.

Speaker 2 1:02:13

Number 17. Who starred in the Game Plan All?

Speaker 1 1:02:21

right Nostrils, you don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know either.

Speaker 2 1:02:26

Dwayne the.

Speaker 3 1:02:26

Rock Johnson. Oh yeah, that was my first guess.

Speaker 2 1:02:29

That's a movie where he's the quarterback for some team and he finds out he has a kid. It's a Disney.

Speaker 1 1:02:34

Yeah, because he looks like he played quarterback.

Speaker 2 1:02:36

He actually played defensive end.

Speaker 1 1:02:37

Yeah, I know, I was about to say, it's like you were on defense Number 18.

Speaker 2 1:02:41

Who plays the coach in the Waterboy?

Speaker 3 1:02:45

Henry Winkler.

Speaker 2 1:02:48

Number 19. What team did Bobby Boucher play for? It's a made-up team, I know.

Speaker 1 1:02:56

Isn't it like the Mudhounds, or something?

Speaker 2 1:02:58

Close. Or Muddogs, yeah, muddogs, last one. In what movie did the character Steamy Willie Beeman appear in? Or Mud Dogs yeah, mud Dogs, Last one. In what movie did the character Steamy Willie Beeman appear in?

Speaker 1 1:03:08

Any Given Sunday.

Speaker 3 1:03:11

All right. What movie were we watching, tom?

Speaker 1 1:03:15

The Princess Bride.

Speaker 3 1:03:16

Okay.

Speaker 1 1:03:17

Focused episode on the Princess Bride.

Speaker 3 1:03:19

Okay, I'm pretty sure we've done that before, but okay.

Speaker 2 1:03:22

Well, we haven't done a movie devoted to it, we did trivia on it.

Speaker 1 1:03:24

We've done trivia on it. That was like one of the best moments ever for you. Socrates, plato, aristotle, morons.

Speaker 2 1:03:32

But he still lost. And he did lose Because of Ryan the original. What do you call it, pirate?

Speaker 1 1:03:41

Oh, the Dread Pirate Roberts. Yeah, robert.

Speaker 2 1:03:42

Ryan Dread Pirate Ryan.

Speaker 1 1:03:46

The actor Robert Ryan.

Speaker 2 1:03:49

Yeah, I remember that that was like the bonus question.

Inconceivable Movies

Speaker 1 1:03:50

I was like yes, there's like a whole thing where there's like a there's 30 hours of footage of Billy Crystal doing Miracle Max somewhere. Mighty Max, that they haven't done Because he's like he came in and he's like our makeup guy and he's like how do you want your character to look? He goes. I want him to be a cross of Casey Stengel, the old Yankees manager, and my grandmother.

Speaker 2 1:04:13

Fair enough so our next episode, our focused episode, will be on Princess Bride. Inconceivable, inconceivable.

Speaker 1 1:04:21

People still shouted at that guy. He's like I was walking down the street and I dropped something and somebody shouted it at me. They're just like inconceivable.

Speaker 2 1:04:29

And he's like but you know, if you're one of our listeners here and there's a certain movie or something you want us to review, let us know. You can go to our social medias, which is at entertainthis underscore On Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, and Instagram.

Speaker 3 1:04:45

Wow, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:04:47

Or our, our website entertain this podcastcom that Hayden's kind of revamped a little bit a little bit.

Speaker 3 1:04:52

I'm still working on it. Yeah, once I have more free time, okay All right.

Speaker 1 1:04:57

Well, that's it for this episode.

Speaker 3 1:04:59

Hayden. I'm sorry, hayden and Mitch.

Speaker 1 1:05:02

And me.

Speaker 3 1:05:02

Tom and Tim.

Speaker 1 1:05:09

Goodbye, bye, I know, you.