Hobart: Rocking Out, Faking It to Make It, and Live Bingo

What happens when you pair a Ryan Reynolds look-alike with a manager who is entirely too good at exploiting a resemblance? You get a laugh-out-loud cinematic juggernaut that feels like The Office met This Is Spinal Tap in the middle of a Hollywood red carpet, “I AM RYAN” releasing May 22nd in theaters.

This week, we are sitting down with the multi-hyphenate mastermind himself: Hobart!

From touring the world on the legendary Warped Tour to composing high-octane soundtracks for video games like Deadpool, Watch Dogs, and Age of Empires, Hobart has done it all. We dive deep into his incredible journey from a 2006 indie rock musician to an LA actor booking major commercials, developing musical hardware, and—yes—hosting the daily sensation Live Play Bingo.

We’re breaking down the madness of his hilarious new film, how he balances scoring massive video games with acting, and what it’s really like to navigate the blurry line between reality and Hollywood illusion. Pop those headphones in—this is a wild ride you don't want to miss!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Hello and welcome back to Entertain This. It's a podcast about movies, TV shows, and video games. My name's Tom. With me, I have Mitch. And nobody? Hayden. Hello? No? Alright. But we have a replacement, a better-looking version. We have Hobart.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Hey, uh, I can pretend to be Hayden. Does Hayden sound like this? I'm not afraid of worms. I like worms and can't tell their talks from the bottoms. My name's Hayden.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

Yes, that is exactly how he sounds.

unknown 0:50

Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

But just, you know, act like you snorted some Ritalin.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

And then you're going to go me at the end.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

And go. And then you too can be Hayden Brandon.

unknown 1:01

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

So we're here with our buddy Hobart. He's a actor, composer, writer. He's done over a thousand live shows, hosts a live bingo event, and he's a Ryan Reynolds look-alike. And looking at him on Mitch's phone, I believe him.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Very accurate statement, boys. Well done.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

I try. We try on the show to be factual and punctual and have it together. The doorbell camera just went off, so he's probably running up the stairs right now for this show. But Hobart, how do you do people just tell you? Like, you're like, dude, you just look like Ryan Reynolds. And you're like, you know what? I'm gonna get a job doing that.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Yep. Yep. I mean, it's been going on for uh over a decade now since I've been an adult and Ryan and I have looked alike for quite some time now. I guess we're kind of veering off now that we're both reaching a certain age, but uh I've been rocking this for a while, and in 2017, I finally decided it would be kind of funny after I did a body double gig for him that I should write a movie uh about me looking like Ryan Reynolds. So the first I am Ryan script came out in 2017, and I started pitching it right away. But you know how Hollywood is. It took, you know, how many years has it been? Nine? So about nine years to make this thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

That's impressive. It's gotten to that point. Does like does Ryan know you're making the movie? Do you talk to him?

SPEAKER_00 2:17

I'm pretty sure at this point, I think so. I honestly do. Uh, we've not spoken the best thing he can do because it's it it's a it's a movie of flattery, you know, it's really cool. We all like him very much. Um, and it'd be impossible for his people not to know at this point because he's seen me. I post that Big Sushi Vampire all the time at Van City Reynolds. I'm always posting, messing with him, and uh now the movie's gaining a lot of traction in the industry and stuff. People are really kind of enthused about it. So if his people don't know, they've done a terrible job. If he doesn't know, I get it. I get it. He's busy, he's got a soccer team, he's got a gin company, he owns a phone company, you know. So I get it, but he knows.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Somebody in his you know, whole camp and career and group know.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

I think as an actor, that's how you know it's over when you come out with your own like booze. That's when they transition like entrepreneurship. It's just like, yeah, I'm done with I'm done with the big movies. I'm just gonna make gin or tequila or something and sell it.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Or own a soccer team.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

Or own a soccer team.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Lord have mercy. Hey, there's uh there's Hayden. Hayden, I did an impersonation of you earlier.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Oh yeah? Was it good?

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Oh no, I was way off. I just heard your voice. That's not your uh I'm so sorry. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

My headphone squealed too. Welcome back to the podcast, Hayden. Yeah. Uh traffic, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

All right. Well, and this is Hobart. Hey, nice to meet you.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Hey, buddy. Yeah. And for this minor interruption, I'll introduce you to him. He's a musician, actor, host, and writer, and has done a thousand live concerts, probably plus at this point. Wow. And as you can see by the guitars behind him, he's no slouch. He does a live bingo show, and he's doing a movie called I Am Ryan. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

It is. What a crazy, what a crazy life. I grew up playing music, moved out here to Hollywood with my band to try and make it, worked as a studio musician, did a bunch of video game music and you know, movies and TV scores and all that fun stuff, and now I'm in movies, which is nuts. Who would who would let me do that?

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Video game music, you say.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

Have we broached that subject?

SPEAKER_02 4:24

We haven't broached it. I had one more question about the I am Ryan. And that was if people had reached out to Ryan Reynolds to cameo as a look-alike for you.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yes. Um, no, he he has not. And if he keeps his mouth shut, he's done the right job. Because if he if he lambasts the movie, he's gonna, you know, it won't be great. If he loves the movie, it'll be great for me. Um, but if he does nothing, then uh that's probably the worst thing that could happen. So if he stays quiet, it's good for him, but you know, uh, that's bad. I mean, if he just says one thing about it, this movie, you know, this is that's a a hundred million dollar movie overnight. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Because there's no such thing as bad publicity.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

That's true. Right. Because like you win either way if Ryan Reynolds is like, this movie sucks, this is stupid, and everybody's gonna be like, is it as they pull it up to watch it and then as you laugh your way to the bank versus like Ryan Reynolds's like, go watch it, and all the Ryan fans are like, oh my god, I'll do whatever you say, Ryan Reynolds, as they pull it up and watch it. And he laughs his way to the bank.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

You gotta find a way to rage bait him into commenting on it.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

I I I we've thought about it, but we like him. That's the problem. He's a he's a nice guy, he's Canadian. I don't know if you guys know, Canadians are generally very nice people. Um we've been cool. We've been cool. Hey, they're nice after the game. They're nice.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

They shake hands.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

They shake hands.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Yeah. But uh, yeah, no, I I'm I'm sure he's a great guy, and I I wouldn't want to get on his bad side either.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

So I guess he's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_03 5:47

But I like I like to encourage chaos, though. That's that's kind of my thing. So true.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

I mean, the movie's chaos, it's it's crazy. I basically feel his identity unknowingly. My character does, Brian. Brian Reynolds. You like that little thing? Um, so I'm just a I'm just a doofus in the movie. I don't know what's going on. I have posterior modus, and the easy manager, Henry, he's the one dragging me along to do all these things that Ryan would not do in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

That's awesome. Yeah. Dan Wilder, too. Is that one of them?

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Was he even in the one? Yeah, he just did the one. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

He did the one. But I but I've been saying, and everybody I've been talking to, they're like, if you get a sequel, there's a really good chance that he would show up in the sequel just in like a bar or something and give me a look.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

There's a there's a good chance at that point if if we get to a sequel that it could have the sequel is he makes it big and he has like an intern, and it's actually you're just Ryan Reynolds. And the whole time you're just Van Wilder, like doing the Van Wilder. It's just like, write that down. It's like you just go, and Ryan's like, oh yes, sir. And it just has to be like, you know, a two-second like shot, and just like everybody just be like, get a bar.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Have we seen uh A Million Ways to Die in the West? Yeah. Have we talked about that yet? Okay. So you know that Bart where like somebody just randomly gets shot in a bar and it's like a cutaway for like three seconds, and it's Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, it was enough for you to be like, wait a minute, was that?

SPEAKER_00 7:08

And it was Brad Pitt in Deadpool. His Deadpool's up. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Well, because Ryan he pays him back for bullet train. Does he? Yeah, because Brad Pitt like takes that Ryan Reynolds' plates on the train, and like they're just like all tell like what a horrible person he looks like. Yeah, yeah. And at the very end of the movie, he like answers the phone. It's like, what? It's like, hey.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

That is funny. There's gotta be some way you can insert your life into his. Sure. Take it over. Like uh what is it, talent to Mr. Ripley? Just do something like that.

unknown 7:38

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

We don't need Ryan Reynolds, we need Brian Reynolds. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

You guys need a little Brian Reynolds in your life.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

I think we do. You know what Tom's last name is?

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Reynolds. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Did you already discuss that? Yeah. Alright, cool. All right. I'll cameo as me in the movie. No one will get it. Yeah, you definitely look like Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. Well, if I still had hair, maybe. No.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

We already taught pre-recording, he would just be an older, taller Jason Statham.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

Ooh, him? No, he's Meth Pete Davidson. We've already talked about that. Hobart, feel free to make fun of this man.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

No, I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying the banter. I've been I've been stuck up in the studio and stuff like that. So I'm excited to talk to humans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

Great. Awesome. All right. So uh I'm interested in game music. What games have you done music for?

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Yeah, so the big one that you would uh remember there's two big ones that you would remember. So one was Watchdog. Oh Watchdog, I got I got a yeah, I got a banger in there. And that song was dead. That song was doing nothing. It'd been out for like four or five years. And then uh I got in touch with Go DIY, which is uh like a licensing company, and uh they took the song and they put it on Watchdog. So that blew up. And then uh the other the fun one was I did all the composing uh with a guy named Julian Sol for Deadpool, which is funny. Deadpool the video game before actually Deadpool the movies came out. And uh so that was really cool to do. That was like my first big video game, Deadpool. And then I I snuck into like Ages of Empires, just additional music and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

No way, that's that's so awesome. Yeah, we haven't had we haven't talked to a game. So you wrote songs and they just kind of took it and adapted it. You haven't written a song necessarily straight for a game.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

No, straight for a game for Deadpool for sure. Okay. Uh Watchdogs, they took my music and just put it in there. But the Deadpool stuff was all original compositions for that.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

Did you have to write variants for these songs depending on like the game tempo or anything like that? Nope.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Just no, they said go wild. With Deadpool, it's so uh it was so dynamic and weird anyway that they were just like, just give us what you got and we'll work around it. And that was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

So yeah, they just gave me the gave me the prompts and I just did it.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Sweet. Was it just uh you doing your own music, or did you have like some musicians come in and like add a little bit here and there? Or were you like the supervisor or whatever?

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Or he's like Tom Schultz and he just played all the music, all the instruments himself.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yeah. So I did I did all the music in the in the very beginning, and so I sent all the tracks and the the compositions out to the who did it, High Noon? High Noon was in charge, and then a dude from High Noon took it, and then if he wanted to add tracks on top of it, he sure could. And he did. Like changed up the drums and stuff, because I come from like a rock and roll background, right? And if you listen to the those soundtracks, you'll hear me playing guitar and stuff. Uh, but the drums are like more early millennial techno, a lot of them. Like Jason Statham would love it over there.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Um he drives in a black Jaguar and he's just going bumping his head back and forth, jiggling some news change.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

I dig it. I dig it. Yeah. I just like music for games. I I I understand because from the entertainment aspect, I come from like the writing background. So like uh having to write basically like six different uh through lines for a scene, you know, depending on what the character, the player character decides to do. I wonder like if it's similar for music, and I I've always wanted to have that conversation with somebody.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

So yeah, and I I think you're absolutely right. It is, it's adaptive uh to what the player chooses and stuff. But with that game, there wasn't a ton of like options. It was like linear. You have to go beat this boss. Yeah, it's very linear. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Cool. Yep. Is there any video game series that you're a fan of that you would like to write music for?

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Uh I got mad at Call of Duty. I love Call of Duty. I got mad at them the last couple years because I thought the music was like I wasn't I wasn't like overwhelmed by it. I know the dude who does it does a great job, but like I really want to step in and shake that thing up. Call of Duty, I love, and they deserve a new sound.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

They deserve a better game. I'll do a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

We've talked at length about Call of Duty. Don't get it started. Don't get us started, man. How many COD fans do we get? That's true.

unknown 11:45

Can I pitch?

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Can I pitch one thing? Uh, do you guys remember when Battle Royale like first came out and it was like 2017 or 2016, something like that, and you had to own the disc to play it? Yeah?

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Versus just online crap. Yeah. That was so good. Like it was just like you had that one place, you just tried to survive. You would just hide in the bathroom if you were like me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Um Bush was like me.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Yeah. That was that was amazing. And then when they put it online for everybody for free, I was like, this sucks.

SPEAKER_03 12:14

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It slowly went downhill. That first first year of Warzone. That's where we peaked. So it was it was it was a hell of a time to be alive.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

It was. It was a great time, boys. We had a nice run.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Have you played Doom?

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Uh yeah, I used to play uh Doom on the computer, not lately, but IDD QD, ADKFA, all the all the key codes for the computer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

The the Doom soundtrack. Yes. Like 2016 Doom or something like that. I think it's uh a force to contend with. I can't remember the composer. Yeah, the composer, I can't remember his name, but he's like legendary for video game proposing composers. And he's uh incorporated chainsaw words into the guitar riffs. So it just sounds as metal as it can be. It's pretty epic. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Yeah, I think that's fantastic. I'm gonna have to go back and listen to it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Play the game. It really enhances the experience. I highly remember that.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Well, that's the same with it's the same with movies. Like if you if the soundtrack is bumping and you're having a good time, it's great. Like Interstellar is fantastic because of that. Friday Night Lights, you remember? It was crazy. Even if we go back to varsity blues, you boys remember when Food Fighters came in on that. Yep. Yep. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. This just got a boner.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

I give it a chance, yeah. Yeah. Man, uh uh Han Zimmer, he's probably like the best composer I could think of right now. Howard Short.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

And and he knows what he wants. It's like simplistic, but it's not. It's so easy to follow and great. So good.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Well, in any game or movie or show, when the music can either make you feel something, get your heart racing, because you're like excited, that that's good music.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Well, so someone explained to me that uh music composition for films shouldn't be uh like a jingle. I I like John Williams, but his his his music is essentially a character to the films. You know what I mean? They're so pronounced. Yeah. Hans Zimmer, you don't realize that you're listening to music when the intensity of movies are happening, uh-huh and it just amplifies.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

So exactly. It makes or breaks it. And Hans is different than yeah, than John Williams. John Williams is a spectacle. That dude just puts up like Disney style music, you know, and you're like, you get punked because it's Jurassic Park and whatever. But yeah, Hans sneaks it in and it goes on for a while, and the the tempo raises just a little bit per second are uh wild stuff.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

Yeah, yeah, but John Williams is like, you're gonna remember this for the rest of your life. It won't get out of your head. Like every time you see a beach in your head, you're gonna hear, dunno. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

Yeah. I still make words to the Jurassic Park theme song in my head.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

What do you what do you say? I stole Chris Pratt. What do you say?

SPEAKER_03 14:55

I'm a dinosaur, run away, or I'll eat you.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Yeah, mine is dinosaurs are real dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

I'm a dinosaur. I'm a dinosaur. Run away or I'll eat you.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Oh have you seen the uh the John Williams where they do uh duel the fates? No. Where they they they dub in like the most bizarre lyrics.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Oh yeah, like uh like avocado toast. It's just just shouting random stuff like that that chant and everything.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

It's just like the funniest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

No. I love it. Well, cool. Uh man, uh you get you got such a wide berth of you know of topics that we could discuss and we're condensed on time.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

I was gonna say, you can say you started are you've done music for video games, you're doing a movie now, you've done writing stuff for different things. How did you start with all this? Like what kind of thing? I started with music.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Okay, yeah. Yeah. So uh it's Phil Collins' fault. Let's be real. Like, I grew up in a musical household. Mom played piano. My uncle allegedly went to Berkeley School of Music to play bass.

SPEAKER_04 16:02

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Allegedly. I I've seen the man, I've seen the man play bass. I love him, but he's no. I think he went to Berkeley in California or something like that, confused it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Still haven't seen a transcript.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

I was I was surrounded by you know music my whole life, and I grew up listening to the Beach Boys in Motown and stuff. And uh when I went and saw Phil Collins in fourth grade at the rounds in in in Illinois, I grew up in Illinois in Champaign, Urbana.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Hey, and a family from there. So that's cool. Yeah, a lot of corn.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

I grew up in the corn. My new album's called Don't Die in Illinois, by the way. We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_04 16:37

That's a great name.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Yeah, it's a it's a pretty ripping album. But I saw the I saw the round in fourth grade of him just killing it, and I was like, holy crap, that's what I want to do. And I got into I got into like soundtracks right then, like Batman Forever and everything. And oh, it's just it was so good. And so I just started playing, uh, I got into the percussion, you know, in the the school band, like fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade. And uh I started playing drums, like drum set then, and then uh I taught myself how to play guitar, and then my brother's like, you want to play in my band? And so I started playing with him and his high school buddies, and then they're like, Did you know you could sing? I'm like, I didn't know I could sing. Turns out I can sing. So we started, I so it just kind of built from there, and I started playing in bands and moved out to LA to chase down the dream. And while I was out here, it was like, Well, I can't play music all the time, we can't tour all the time. Maybe I should do some commercials, I'll I'll try. So I started putting myself out to auditions, and that was back in the day like when you went into auditions, like you had to drive there and sit in a room. And uh the well, but for me, I've got that weird it charisma thing where it's like we don't know what you have, but we're gonna hire you. So, like when I went into the room, it was 50-50. If I was gonna if I got in the room with the casting director uh from like 2012 to like 2020, I was getting the job 50% of the time, which is insane stats.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

I did so many commercials. It works every time.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Right. And now, and then when the pandemic hit, we we were doing video things, and now it's like I never get hired. It's like one out of every thousand auditions now for a commercial. Do you have like a troop of that's how it started?

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Do you have like a troop of friends that you work with, you know, projects with? Nope. You you no friends.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

No, I there's certain there's there's two or three guys that I really like out here, but we never work together because either they're bad luck and they're just my buddies, or they're just not quite like like there, you know, skill-wise, which is sad, but they're my buddies. I know exactly what you're talking about. So do I. They'll be at my premiere. They're great people, but they're just they're just not firing on all cylinders, you know? And uh, so I I wish I had a troop of dudes that I could lean on.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

I don't I wish I did too.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Yeah. Your buddies there. But the director and I are close. Carl Jackson Studios, him and I are uh we talk every day. We're super close. So we got this project, which is cool.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Yeah. So did did you ask all like the uh you know we just started when you got it? The money questions. All right, I'm like, let me ask all the producer stuff for your for your project.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

He likes to be the whole t the technical nerd about it.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Yeah, I always ask the boring questions. We'll ask the fun ones later. You are a producer of this project. Yeah, so you're great question. So when you came in, um you had a budget in mind. Where is it from where you started to where it is now? Is it better or worse?

SPEAKER_00 19:22

It's uh it's actually better. So what we did, what was different was so I pitched the movie to Carl Jackson Studios because they hired me to do like a small acting part in another movie. And I was just talking to him and we became friends, and I pitched the movie, and I said, This is not gonna be expensive to make, it's not gonna break the bank, it's viral because it mentions Ryan Reynolds so many times, so especially the marketing. Um, we can do this in like uh probably two weeks' shoot. And that was like, and uh like within a minute, he's like, Let's do it. And so he got the money together. We did it uh in like two weeks, and we shot it way under budget because we're running around LA, everything's local. All the actors are pretty new, they're pretty new actors, so we weren't breaking the bank with that. I wasn't getting paid because I wrote it and I own 50% of the movie now. I wrote it, I acted it, I composed, so I said, don't pay me, just let me keep 50%, which nobody gets. And I know all my all my money's on the back end, which is great, which I'm totally cool with because all my music is gonna be getting royalties too. So we came in way under budget, so we took everything and put it to marketing. So that's why we have all these amazing commercials coming out uh next week before the movies start, like that whole week leading up. It's just like Dallas, Texas, Los Angeles, New York. They're just gonna be, you know, millions of impressions. So we did a good job on that.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

What's your uh what's your avenue through for the for these commercials? Is it like Instagram? Is it you know YouTube?

SPEAKER_00 20:47

Oh, television. So actually straight up TV like Hulu, Netflix, uh ABC, NBC, CBS, it's all the stations. Like he sent me the list, like this is all Carl Jackson stuff. But um, yeah, so like if you're sitting there watching Netflix or whatever and you're in LA and you you have advertisements, you don't pay for the good one, like me, you're gonna see all of us. So you'll see it.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

So you guys put some some big money into it. That's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I'm gonna edit as IMDB and at the end I'm just gonna write shrewd businessman.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Seriously, it's oh the and that's where it's at because in the filming process nowadays, there's so many wasted dollars on set nowadays, especially like you can use AI to fill out some things that you need help with and whatever. You can you can spend most of your money on marketing if you're smart about it. And that we we were super shrewd, and me not taking money up front was the big thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Oh yeah, I'm sure. Uh and you said that Jackson guy was your m marketing dude on top of an executive as well.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah, it's his studio, so he's in charge. He he has a team under him, and I've never met any of them, but I've talked to them by email. But yeah, it's just he's got a team, apparently, he's killing it.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

And it's uh gonna distribute where?

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Uh what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 22:02

So it's in theaters.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah. So we're starting theaters. Uh three cities to start with right now. We've got LA, New York, and Dallas. Uh we're doing the premiere in Los Angeles. And if it goes well over the first like weekends, first probably four or five days, uh, all of the theaters have it. Um I don't know if you guys know how the distribution works. So all the theaters have it. All of them have signed on. Like there's like 2,000 theaters that are like, let's do it. But we won't do it because we can't officially market in those um, what do you call them? Those areas efficiently with the money.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

So we don't want to lie to them and be like, yo, we're gonna, yeah, yeah, we marketed in Tuscaloosa. Right. Yeah, we marketed in uh Athens, Georgia. No, we didn't. No, we did not. So we're not gonna lie about that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Well, I appreciate that. But if it if it does decent in those first five days, uh will the distribution they'll kick it up. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Yeah. And and this is one of those, it's an indie film, so it's not like Star Wars comes out with us May 22nd, everybody knows and has to kill. We can we can leak this out for like a year. Yeah. Because it it's just it's like a Napoleon dynamite thing. It's just gonna hopefully just keep going.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yeah, yeah. And Napoleon Dynamite's a great example of that.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Um it's a really close example of what we did.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Sweet. Well, I mean, do you have streaming rights uh for it already?

SPEAKER_00 23:16

You no, no, there's a bidding war, and we made sure of that. So we have places that want it right now, but hopefully it does well in the theater so that at the end of it we can be like, well, well, well.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Your original offer was this here's the counter. Because as you can see from these returns, we're no slouches. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Exactly. So that's the that's the goal. So I I think it's kind of cool, you know. Everybody has been asking, they're like, Well, how did you write it? How'd you act in it and compose it? And have your fingers in it like a producer. It's like, well, it was my baby. I've been I this is it wasn't weird for me to do all that. I I I wanted to, and I'll probably never get to do it again. So it's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

What's the shoot style? Is it like a moumentary?

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah, okay. Absolutely. Um the obviously we don't know that the camera's there. It's not that kind of mockumentary, but it's uh it is the single camera. Shoot as much as you can from all angles. I hate that. I I wanna next movie I do, I'm gonna have two or three cameras running at all times.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

Is it expensive?

SPEAKER_00 24:18

You know, it is so cheap.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Well, you get so many cameras, you gotta do the data wrangling and the syncing and all this other mess. It gets it gets a little out of control, but I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

It is. Yep, you're right. But from uh from this point of view, I'm like, just we need more cameras.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Yeah. More on me, please.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Right. Great questions, guys. Great questions, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Well, thank you. You're you're not just saying that, are you?

SPEAKER_00 24:44

No, no, no. I mean, I I'm pretty I'm pretty used to the junket where it's just like, you know, I get the same questions over and over. You guys are hitting a lot of great stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Yeah, I only ask what I want to know. Ask you some questions. Yeah, I had another production question. Um oh, yeah, locations. Okay. So uh you said you ran around rampant throughout LA and stuff. Uh how was your release, your location release method? Was it official? Can we say that? No, those are the best dudes.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Stealing shit.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

I don't know what you're talking about, Hagel. Every time they got done, he just popped his collar, put on some sunglasses, and we were filming a movie and then ran away.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Yeah. No, there are some spots where, of course, you have to get uh permits and things like that. We took care of our due diligence, but obviously, some people are gonna pop up in the movie that we didn't, you know, they're not gonna know they're in a movie, they'll probably never see it. But it's gonna be funny if they do and they'll be like, hey.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

Yeah, French Connect the hell out of this.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

They should know, you know, the spots where we were at, like, we got to shoot on Hollywood Boulevard, we got to shoot all over the San Fernando Valley and stuff. So if you pop into the movie, uh, congratulations.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Sweet. Well, and then demand some money.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Yeah, yeah. Good luck finding me. Ha ha!

SPEAKER_02 25:58

I'm not even real.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

I think the earnestness behind productions that are like that, like, ooh, we're not supposed to be here, that kind of like ups the uh the you know the level of energy and makes things a little bit more exciting and efficient. So because I've been on sets that are like that. Like let's wrap it up, guys. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Let's do this fast. Let's go before anybody official shows up.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah. Well, LA LA's having a tough time right now with permits and everything, trying to get people to get permits because it starts at$900. So imagine imagine just shooting a music video legally uh in LA and you're on your own and be like, yeah, it starts at$900 per location. Uh and if you block out the street or the sidewalk, it's like we have to have cops come. So it's wild stuff. Like, I paid for permits before. I shot a sitcom pilot last year, and that was that was insane. Um, the cops were super cool, but like the permit people were it was tough. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

So LA's a nightmare. So just to I guess I'm sure people are probably listening, it's like permits, it's like you know,$900 for the permit. It's like, what does the permit get you? Like, how much time do you get to film at a location?

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Yeah, so technically you get a you get like four four days, I think. I think they give you four days to do it. Um, and you have to be very exact on what times you're gonna be filming, uh, and just to notify like the police and stuff, which which is basically all security stuff, I guess. It seems like a racket to me, but thankfully I do believe the current administration trying to cut down or get rid of if you have like less than 30 people on the set. Yeah, I think they're trying to help us out, which is cool.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

Yeah, but um Atlanta has uh really good like grants and gigs for uh like micro budget productions and stuff, you know. Um in fact, like we we looked at one for a thing that me and Mitch were uh looking into to to shoot, and like we were gonna close down a uh a road, and I think it was what 350 bucks for like the whole day. Yeah, and it was exactly what we needed.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I mean, that's all we needed was for a day, but but it was gonna be like a four-lane highway.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Yeah. So cops involved in everything.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

That's a pretty good deal. You shut it down, 350. That's not bad at all.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

And uh, you know, uh like they'll you get tax breaks and all sorts of cool stuff in Georgia. So and then now yeah, they they're down to like city tax breaks on top of the state tax breaks. So wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Well, it's it I mean it's still booming. You know, you hear all this stuff with AI and everybody's losing their jobs and whatnot, but it's it's still moving, you know. Atlanta's still a very uh good place to shoot.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

It is. I I think the uh the industry in Georgia's kind of dwindled a little bit. I don't think it bounced back as well as other places have after COVID.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Well, I know they're filming Man of Tomorrow right around kind of close to where I live. Oh yeah, they're filming something for it. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

I don't know what, but uh I have a serious question. Along with Tolkien. Okay. And my headset just died. All right, we'll take it off. So I can't hear anyway. You can hear him on the phone. I believe in you.

unknown 28:50

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

That's a fancy headset that you gotta charge.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Turtle Beaches from forever ago. Yeah. Old school Xbox. My question is can you explain to us your passion for bingo?

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so it all started in 2019. I auditioned for this bingo game called Live Play Bingo, where I just sent in my tape, right? Not thinking I would get anything, but I've always I've heard they're like, You could you could be a good host someday. I think it's because I'm six foot two and I have all my teeth and I I talk different way.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Most of the requirements. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Right. So this this thing comes up and I don't hear anything for a little while, and then the pandemic hit, and uh, I can't tour anymore. Uh, there's no acting gigs out here. Everything is kind of shut down. I think I did like a gene modeling thing once or like seven genes during the during that time. That was it. And um, they called and they said, We'd love you to come in. And it was February, like right after the Super Bowl or something like that. Um, come into the studio, we're gonna audition people, and every everybody's kind of nervous because, you know, COVID. So I go into this room, this huge room to audition it, and there's like super good hosts there, like really good hosts. And I'm like, oh, there's no way I'll get this because I don't know what I'm doing. So I get in there and I'm like, all right, B7, we're in heaven. Okay, uh this is for cute. All right, we're gonna. And so I did a really bad job. But the CEO and the C C O O at the time were sitting there and they're watching me do this, and then I'm like, oh, cool guitar, whose guitar is that? Because you know, it's me. I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And um, it was literally this guitar, it was like a baby tailor. And he's like, Oh, the CEO is like, it's a baby taylor. Do you play? And I was like, Do I? So I think they hired me because they said they're like, You're not a host, we'll make you a host. You've got something. See, I was in the room again. And right, and and they just wanted to find cool people to hang out with. So they hired seven people that were like official hosts that have been doing it, and this guy. Now, fast forward six years later, live play bingo's huge. I I host every single day, like you guys can see over here, um, because this is in video. See that huge screen over in my corner there?

SPEAKER_04 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

So I host from my house now. I used to go into the studio uh every day and host like drive from my house. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

But um, now I host from my my studio in the mornings from seven to nine to every morning, and arguably I'm their biggest host, and I'm the last one standing from the original group, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Well, what's your trick to make bingo exciting? Because my experience is Christmas bingo, and uh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a it's it's a those old women get really, really angry.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

It's the demographic is different than you think. So it's like Gen Z all the way to the greatest generation talking about you know World War II. So it's it's wild. Uh the the gap is huge. So there's a chat room inside of it, so people can talk to me while I'm live hosting the game. Okay. So we're we're just interacting the whole time. I have a bingo gang called the Ocean Mafia, the biggest, baddest bingo gang on the planet. So I was like the Johnny Cash of Bingo. And I have all these, I have all these nair duels and ruffians and people that like uh I've been in prison and they just play bingo with me. So I've got like the rough group.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

And uh watch out for the bingo crowd.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

And they're they're addicts, which is a good thing. You can be addicted to good things, and this is a social game. So I host it every day, live play bingo. Uh if you tell your your spouses about it, they will get addicted. It's a free game. Okay, but it's it's there's a lot of bells and whistles, they're really good at it. They come from like slot machine, um, like casino stuff. They're good at it. So when you play it, you're gonna want to stay.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Okay. I like what do you get if you win? What if I'm bingo?

SPEAKER_00 32:35

So uh it's like a video game. So you keep leveling up, obviously. So you get the dopamine history, like, oh cool, I leveled up. You get like new avatars, you get like new typing fonts, things of that nature. But we it's a free game. So we give out Amazon gift cards every hour to like random player. That's it. And sometimes we'll do like sweepstakes, give away sweepstakes, giveaways and stuff. But with the rule changes, um, now we have like a real casino bingo and real casino slot machine. Like we have all sorts of stuff, but like I'm I'm OG. I still host free bingo um every day. So it's been awful.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

That's great. What is what are you what do you host it on? Is it what's the thing called in the platform?

SPEAKER_00 33:18

So it's an app. So live play bingo is on your phone, it's on your tablet, it's on Android, Apple. So people just play on their phones typically, but they can play on their iPad or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 33:27

Man, what a I wasn't expecting bingo to come out in this conversation. So what else do you do?

SPEAKER_00 33:32

But it's not it's a huge part of my life. No, that was and people are always like, oh man, you do so many things. It's like, well, they're all interconnected, it's all entertainment, it's all based off of my cool factor with music, and then they're like, Oh, cool, so you can act because you pretend to, you know, sing and play. I was like, well, it's not pretending, but yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. I just tell stories. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

I think good actors are just people that are not afraid to embarrass themselves, you know. You got you gotta emote, yeah. Yeah, I'm not that guy. I would totally fall flat. You should see some of our early live uh recordings. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

We were all bad. We were all bad. Yeah. We're all bad when we start, and we think we're not. We're we're doing okay. No, we we were all trash at one point.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Okay, it was terrible. Yeah, yeah, we were pretty bad. You know.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Over five and a half, six years, we've gotten better.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

We have. We've stuck through this. I don't know why, but we have.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

We figured out it's okay to make fun of each other while we're recording.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

A lot of people told us just quit. And we didn't listen. We got stubborn.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

We didn't listen.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Just give it up. I was playing, I I see the the Power Rangers in the background there.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

The people at home, um, the people at home can't see this, but there are some Power Rangers up in the background. And uh my only connection to that is obviously I watched it when I was a kid, but um, I met Zach, the the Black Helmet Power Ranger, at one of my shows once. He came and watched me play, and uh I came off stage and there he was. There was Zach, uh the Power Ranger. I was like, holy smokes, what's up, dog?

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Which is like you're the you're the original Black Ranger.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Which which Zach is the original one? Yeah, okay from Mighty Morphin. I don't know that enough.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

He's not cool. He doesn't care about Power Rangers, he had a horrible childhood. I did. He was forced to read and go outside. Me and Mitch got to sit inside, watch Power Rangers and Batman. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

Yep, Capri Sons and Hostess. That's right. I did have some Capri Sons.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

But did you ever have any Sunny D?

SPEAKER_03 35:30

No, that was more expensive than Capri Sons was.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Yeah, but it was a lot more sugar, too.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Did you guys do the Florida edition or the California edition Sunny D?

SPEAKER_02 35:39

Oh, I don't know. I didn't know there were additions. I think mine was a floor.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

I didn't have Sunny D. I had Tang. Oh, yeah, Tang. You know what?

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Astronauts had it, and they had a great commercial with those orangutas. They sure did.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

I think a tang. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

I don't remember the differences of Sunny D. Like we had it in New York.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

I didn't I didn't even know there was.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

It came in like the interestingly shaped bottle, and every now and then there'd be the commercial, and the Sunny D had on sunglasses and did something cool.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

I remember kids had the lunchables and they had all the cool stuff, and I had like a whatever wet food was in my paper bag. Yeah, the peanut butter sandwich and crushed chips.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Yeah, but I have a meet.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

From Illinois, I believe it.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

He was a lunchables guy.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

I had the school lunch, whatever we paid for.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

When the hot lunch came up, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I can buy lunch?

SPEAKER_02 36:32

He probably had like an inn with the lunch ladies, and he's like, Yeah, can I get that toasted? I did.

SPEAKER_03 36:37

Everybody bullied me. Even the lunch ladies bullied me. I was lucky just to walk out with mine.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yeah, I was so they bullied you. They were into me, buddy. We had I had a great, I had a great you gotta be nice to the lunch ladies, and then you get free stuff.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

I don't know. I I I was never nice my whole life. Yeah, Hayden's always making fun of people. Yeah, he just can't help himself.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Dang it.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

Yeah. This is more successful, Hayden. What? Being him? Yeah. All right. I guess I gotta learn an instrument.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

We don't believe you.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

I don't have time. He just had the talent.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

It's just like, yeah, I did band and I taught myself guitar. It's like man.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

I didn't say I was any good at it, but I thought myself out of here.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

I don't know. Maybe uh we'll we'll uh see if you can take a stab at our uh our intro to our podcast.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Yeah, I have a cousin that works, he works at Nashville, and he said he was gonna do one. He did a couple, but none of them quite worked with our tempo and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Yeah. What um what kind of music do you guys like for your podcast?

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Well, it sounds a little something like this. Can you hear me? Can you hear that?

unknown 37:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

They forgot to take the shows off.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

Oh, now it went away.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

Oh, it did.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

That's weird. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got you. Okay. Alright, alright, all right.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

And the reason we liked it was it was free. Yeah.

unknown 38:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Honestly, that's a comp I I think me, or it was it you, Mitch. We mixed a whole bunch of different play tracks for different stuff together. Made it work. Yeah. And then we compromised.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

I got you. Um, I I've only done one podcast um theme song, and it was uh I made it sound like King of the Hill. Oh yeah? Oh, that's awesome. I love King of the Hill.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

That is great.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

It was dope. It was a it was a dope song. I was like, well, this is pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

I really thought it was just somebody going, damn it, Bobby quit listening to my podcast. What's the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Uh I think it was called Southern Draw. I think that's what it's called. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

That does try. Yeah. That's that trays out. That's Mitch's other podcast.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

I think I I think yeah, it was this guitar. It was the uh the white, the white and the black stripey one that that was it was that guitar I played on. I remember that. That was cool.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

Yeah. That's awesome. Man, you you really do have fingers in every pot.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

So no, just entertainment. It's also all storytelling, it's all connected.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

Uh it's still a lot more than I can do. So good for you. You should start a podcast. You know what? Yeah, no, have you done that? Just take that from us, also.

SPEAKER_00 39:08

No, I I'll I'll just say I'll do TikTok live or something and do battles against people and make quarters.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

Uh battle like what? What?

SPEAKER_00 39:17

So on TikTok, I just learned this today. I've seen it, but on TikTok, if you go live, you can battle people, meaning it's the side screen by side screen, and people vote for who they like better. And that's it. And then you win all the like little gifts people send you, and you can make money that way. I was like, there's no sticking way. And then I looked it up, and yeah, there's some there's some people who just battle for money. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

But what do you what do you compete with? Like your looks?

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yeah, seriously. It's just like if there's like a really good-looking dude or a girl or a good-looking girl next to some guy sitting in the dark being creepy, yeah, the uh the girl's gonna win. So absolutely, it's just uh it's like a popular company.

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Yeah, huh. As the guy, that tracks. That tracks.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Well, I don't think we have a shot in that.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

No, considering neither one of you have TikTok. I I run our TikTok account and I don't ever show a black face.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

Let's be real, we'd lose to Hobart. Are you are you pretty adaptive to all the social mediums that are out there?

SPEAKER_00 40:12

No, so I cut it down a lot. So I use Instagram every day, as you guys know. Like, that's the big one. The Instagram, I have TikTok for the live feature because the live brings in just the everybody. Yeah, like everybody all around the planet can see. So TikTok's good for that. Uh, I have a Patreon, which I like have people subscribe to if they want like songs before they drop. Nice. Uh, and YouTube. Uh, of course, YouTube just because it's everywhere. But I'd say Instagram is my big thing. I stayed away from Facebook because it's just like people can get a hold of you too easily.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Yeah, I I appreciate Instagram. I I I know it's an algorithm that pushes you to like other things that you weren't necessarily getting on the app for, but it feels so natural and it is a great time suck, you know.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

So that's what we're we've got X, Instagram, TikTok, um, what's the other one? Uh we've got YouTube. Mostly though, I use Instagram because it can share it to Facebook and threads, and then I use TikTok. So Instagram and TikTok are the ones I use the most just because they're the most interactive.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

I run the MySpace account, it's not doing well. He also runs our Patreon account. You can get that while that's doing it. Yeah, Patreon wallet's got mods flying out of it.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

I noticed uh I noticed that was not in your top eight on the MySpace this morning.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

So Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Once again, Tom drops the ball. Tom, Facebook.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Let me get on it.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

I'm already your friend. I'm supposed to be your friend.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Wow. So, okay, this movie that's obviously gonna take up a lot of your time for the foreseeable. Uh, what's in the uh the the what's the down the long road for you?

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah. Um, so what do we got here? So live play bingo continues. There's nothing new with that for me, so I'll just keep doing that because that's kind of like I don't want to call it my job, but that's kind of like the steady thing of my life where like I just go back to that, I do it every morning, and then I get to go do everything else, which is a lot more fun, I would say. Um, so the bingo's not gonna stop. I do have another movie coming, uh, we're gonna be filming this summer. Um, I won't talk about it because I'm trying to get into I Am Ryan, you know, everybody to watch that, but I do have it all planned out and self-funded and ready to go. So we'll be doing that. Uh other other than that, not much, buddy. Just recording music and uh pretending I know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

Man, he's doing a good job. You still got a plan. You still got still got things figured out. So yeah. We've we've talked to some people who are like, yeah, this uh we shot this, you know, B-roll uh thing under an overpass, and uh this is the best thing that I've ever done in my life, and I have no plan beyond this. And we're like, all right, well, that's great.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

We're hoping this takes me to the Oscars.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

Yeah, no, I have I have no uh I have no hopes of any awards for this movie or anything. It's just fun. It was just it was a fun thing to do, and I want people to laugh. And I hope they enjoy the soundtrack because that was the hardest thing to do with composing for this film. Was like, I came at it with oh, I can do rock and roll, oh, I can do like electronic music, I can have fun with it, right? Yeah, just happy top comedy. I ended up on marching band Bossa Nova. I kid you not. Okay, the theme of the movie is like, you know, like it's it's easy and weird and fun and awkward, kind of like the office and spinal tap at parts. Uh, but it's what worked the best was Bossa Nova, and then I couldn't stand it. I needed some like heavy drums in there. So I put in I put in like a like an HBCU marching band kind of feel to it. So you're gonna you're gonna feel something. It's fun.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

Did uh did you start writing the music during production, before production, or wait till after?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

I'm I'm an idiot because I did it before, during, and after, and I have so many songs I didn't use and everything. There's uh all the composers out there, all the new composers, guys. Um first get ready for uh the craziest couple months of your life. Two, don't do it until it's done. Yeah, don't do it until you get the edit. When you get the edit, that's when you start. Don't even worry about it. Just holy smokes, I'm an idiot. I wasted so much time.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Did was it first cut or final cut when you started doing it?

SPEAKER_00 44:00

The first cut is when I s uh like the first good cut because I got it in all sorts of weird, you know, this doesn't go here, this doesn't go here. Like it was the editor's choice. And I'm like, well no no no, play it's gonna go there. And so I had to change it. Yeah. Uh with Coral. But um yeah, once you start getting the edits, that's when it started.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

What uh what software do you use to compose and put it all together?

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Yeah. Yep. So I am an Apple fellow myself. I use Logic Pro X. I came from the Pro Tools world, which is great for editing, they always told me. But Logic is so much easier for me. I love Logic. Um in my studio I run it through like an Apogee duet, that's the interface, and then I I have like every Waves plug-in on the planet now.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Man.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

So those are that's the like the big stuff. And uh if I'm recording vocals or whatever, it's all no uh Neumann at this part. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

I I I've little experience with sound design, and it's it always just gets so far beyond me. All the the noiser filters and the stuff like that. Oh, there you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

If for everybody at home can't see it, it's an Akai professional, it's like an MTK25. Yeah, yeah. It's an old school like MIDI keyboard, and everything you've ever heard of mine went through that at some point.

SPEAKER_03 45:12

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

I love how whatever he's gonna talk about, he has the property. He does. He's like, let me just. It's just like it's immediately like is there like a team of people beyond the camera? He's got hair moose he just pulled out, he's just restyling, he's just like, hang on. This guy's baking.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

I got a rubber here somewhere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:27

There's just a team of people you can't see, and they're just like, what do we need to grab? What do we need to grab?

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Handing them things. Oh my handlers, yeah. And that's another thing in my whole career. It's been it's nice now. I'm handing the reins off to people because you know, like I've never had like a uh like a PR person before. I've never had uh other producers helping me, marketing stuff. It's always just been kind of me just floating around, no agents, anything like that. And uh it's it's been nice to get some help finally.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

Yeah, I bet. I wish we could get some help. It would be nice. Yeah, it sure would. I know. Shut up. But sadly, we will just continue on as we are as a trio until we make it big, hopefully one day, like Hobart did. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

There you go. There you go. Just keep plugging away, baby. Somebody, somebody will find you.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Yeah, we're just along for the ride and having fun with it.

SPEAKER_02 46:11

At this point, we think people are actively avoiding us.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

There it is. There's the price, it's the algorithm, the meta. They got you.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

Well, hey, maybe you'll help us out a little bit. Maybe yeah, we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Hey, if the movie blows up, this will be a really fun conversation for people to listen to. Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_03 46:28

We got it on the ground. That's right. We got it before it even came out. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

That's right. You dug you dug me up. Big sushi vampire. You dug me up.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

We had to hunt him down and drag him onto our show. But I think we don't want to take up too much more of your time, so we're gonna end it off here. Hobart, thank you very much for being on our pokey little show and giving us a peek into your life and career. It's been a very enjoyable conversation. We hope we get to have you back on when you make it big and t topple Ryan Reynolds. That's right. And become ultimate Brian Reynolds.

SPEAKER_03 47:01

Yeah, interesting dude. Uh, I really enjoyed the conversation, and we always like to try and keep it tabs on our uh guests, you know, just to see where they are, especially after a big project. So maybe after your movie comes out and we've all seen it, we can talk about spoilers and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Yeah, I'll come back and tell you how the premiere went. I'll be like, it was awful.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

Everybody, this movie's terrible. Socks, kid. I can't wait.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Don't do this. Make the music. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

Hobart, is there anything you want to plug before we sign off?

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Yeah, hey guys, uh, thank you everybody for listening. Thank you to Entertain This for having me on. It was a really pleasant conversation. Uh, go follow me at BigSushiVampire because I'm big. I love sushi, and I devour it like a vampire. So big sushi vampire to keep up with my shenanigans. And yeah, we'll do it again after the movie comes out. But you're not actually a vampire, are you?

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Or is he?

SPEAKER_00 47:52

I was born in 1859. I'm 167 years old.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

You wear it so well. He comes up with that so quick. He had the year and the exact age to match.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

I I got I got something. I don't know. I got that brain, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

Well, you just there was just a guy holding it up on a whiteboard.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Yeah, it's over there. Hey, Jerry, thanks.

SPEAKER_03 48:12

All right, man. Thanks so much. We'll keep in touch, okay?

SPEAKER_00 48:15

All right. Thank you guys. I'll see you later. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

See you, Hobart.

unknown 48:18

Bye-bye.