Terminator 2 Judgement Day: Come With Us If You Want to Pod

Hasta la vista, bad sequels.

Welcome back to Entertain This!, where we’re dissecting Terminator 2: Judgment Day the rare sci-fi blockbuster that gets smarter the more things explode. We’re planting our flag early: as far as we’re concerned, the franchise ended right here.

We’re breaking down James Cameron’s airtight direction, Linda Hamilton’s terrifying intensity, and why Robert Patrick’s unblinking T-1000 remains the absolute gold standard for movie villains. 

We also tackle the heavy hitters:

- Does Arnold’s "no killing" rule actually hold up when he's shooting out kneecaps?
- Can we politely ignore the time travel plot holes?
- And why do modern franchises insist on over-explaining perfectly good lore?

Stick around after the rating for Mitch’s rapid-fire news blitz, dropping quick updates on Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 2, Star Wars Zero Company, a Code Veronica remake, and Cyberpunk Edgerunners Season 2.

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Cold Open And Welcome

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Only been what? Six years now? Hi.

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Welcome to Entertain This, a podcast about movies, TV shows, and video games. My name is Hayden. With me. With me, I have Mitch in Tom. Hello.

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Today.

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Oh, are you? Today we're discussing the best and the last of the Terminator movies, Terminator 2. Best sequel ever. Yeah. And none of the other movies never happened. Never happened. It was just uh stopped at two. We don't need the other ones.

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No, I don't even know what you'd name those films. Yeah. Like Dark Fate or Genesis.

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I honestly don't. What was the call? What was the third one called?

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Three. I thought it's not salvation. Something of the machines? Is it Rise of the Machines? Or is that four?

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Yeah, that's Rise of the Machines.

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The waters get muddied after Judgment Day. The only thing you gotta worry about is Judgment Day, the best one. Right? Yeah, yeah. So. But before we begin, social media Mitch.

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You can go to at Entertain this underscore on X, Instagram, and TikTok. And you can go to et Entertain this59 on YouTube. Check out our shorts and our uh our short shorts. Who wears short shorts? I wear shorts shorts. Tom does it.

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Showing off all kinds of things.

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We had that discussion with uh Darren Tooners when we talked. He was like, he was like, he stood up on the uh interview and he was like, all right, so where where do the short shorts begin? He was like, here, here, and he kept going up. Tom's like, keep going. He was like at his tip.

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And I was like, Yeah, nice and confident.

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You gotta give the crowd some pleasing. You gotta show off some testicle in the gum.

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No, it's not gum.

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It's like the old man at the uh the lawn at the lawn chair. The old old grandpa slides out of one side, ducks it back in, slides out the other.

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I remember as a kid sitting in a lawn chair. And and you know like the plastic bandy ones?

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Yeah, and it would be hot and like you like peel yourself off.

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But when you're tiny and you're a little boy and your little boy parts happen to get wedged in between those things and you stand up. Yeah. That was a traumatizing. I think to this day I I like kind of like side saddle those things just because I'm afraid. You know.

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It brings like a pad to put down and like rest is.

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I like ease into it, like ha ha, ha ha.

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Like getting to a hot tub.

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It's like you sit on the edge of the chair. Yeah. Relax. Nah, I'm good. I'll stay. I am relaxed. Why are you sweating so much?

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I was watching cops. Who walks out to the barbecue, sees a chair and goes, the chair's like.

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I'll sit in the floor. I'll sit in the grass. There's an anthill. That's fine.

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What are we talking about? Terminator 2. Oh, yeah, Terminator 2. The best Terminator. Uh this is starring some guy named Arnold. I can't pronounce that name. Scharzenager? How do you say that?

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Arnold S.

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Yeah, that guy. Linda Hamilton, Robert Patrick, and a very young Christian Stewart.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

What?

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Kristen Stewart?

SPEAKER_03 3:34

I'm just teasing. The guy uh who plays uh John Connor, I think, looks like Kristen Stewart.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Oh, what's his name? Uh is it Furlong? Edward Furlong?

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Yeah, Edward Furlong.

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Isn't he like a Coke addict or something?

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Yeah, he's been arrested a couple of times. Um he was in uh I mean like this launched his career because after this, he didn't do anything until he was like in his late

Why T2 Beats The Franchise

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20s and did uh The Crow 3. Oh, I do remember that. Yeah, he's he's moved he was moving up after this.

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He did this and American History X.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

There was something other I remember in Man Bucking Road was he in American History?

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Oh, that's right, he was the younger brother. Yeah, yeah. He got shot and killed at the end of the movie. Spoiler.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

We're not talking about that though.

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No.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Um he was by far like the worst part of this movie. You know, his screechy come on!

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Mom! Come on! I I did read that they start they kind of like film the movie backwards. So the early shots, he was a lot younger. Yeah, and he like hit puberty as they were filming. Yeah, that's why in the the beginning shots he looks more teenager-ish than kid.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Every time he would scream and like have his like husky kid voice, I was just like, ugh.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Well, they said they had to go back in ADR just half of his lines because he had the squeak and the and the the raspiness you know going back and forth.

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No Killy, come out.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

You really don't like this kid, do you?

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Nah, he it's it's well documented on this show. Hayden does not like child actors. I don't.

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I mean, let's be honest. There's some good ones like Kristen Kirst Kristen Dunst. Kirsten Dunst. Kirsten Dunst, probably the best child actor portrayal in Hollywood history for vampire interview with a vampire. Yeah. You know? Like, but then you w like you watch the sand line as an adult. Like as a kid, you're like, maybe that's how cool kids act, you know, just really fake. And then as an adult, you're like, oh, these kids. Nobody talks like that. Nobody, nobody inflects like that. And it bothers me. I just want to I don't know. What are you doing? Where's your parents at? No, this is pot racing. Yes, that. That's a great example right there. It's just somebody so detached from childhood.

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Before Star Wars ruined his life. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so um The Terminator was considered a significant success, enhancing Schwarzenegger's career and Cam Cameron's career as well. This was Cameron's fourth film. He did Terminator, well, he he was like a third AD on Piranha 3D. And then he did uh the Terminator 1. Yeah. He did Aliens. Aliens. He did um The Abyss. And then he did Terminator 2. And obviously, like this kind of was like the culminating presence for uh Cameron's fascination with CG. You know, they they they threw a lot of groundbreaking uh work into the T 1000. And uh, you know, I I think this was one of the first rated R movies I ever saw.

Cameron’s Craft And CGI Leap

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Well, I think a lot of the stuff that because I've seen The Abyss and a lot of the stuff I feel like he did on that movie, he took and applied it more to this movie when it comes to lighting and s and like the practical stuff.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

Yeah, the they the way they got around a lot of the reflective issues in the abyss was they made the backgrounds for the first off, it's water, so it's transparent. And um they uh they made the background like the same color as the water itself with like the ambient light and uh it was very dark. But for some of these shots in uh Terminator 2, like it was just a chromatic brightest day transition from like that fleshy uh uh uh Robert, what's his name? Robert Patrick. Robert Patrick to uh you know the chromatic his best role. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Which I I was doing a little research about this movie, and they said that they actually wanted Michael Bean to be the T1000, but then they thought it would be too confusing for audiences.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Well, yeah, because he was why why would he be the Touch000? Because he's Kyle Reese.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Well, because they they just made a copy of him to be the T1000. One thing I noticed To confuse Linda Hamilton. Well that's that's what they said. The the the uh producer and director was like, that'd be too confusing, so that's why they Robert Patrick.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Yeah. Well, one thing that I'll I'll get started, but in 2029, Earth has been ravaged by the war between the malevolent artificial intelligence Skynet and the human resistance. And it has that cool opening shot where like there's a battle scene and skulls everywhere. It look basically looks like Los Angeles today. Yeah, and uh like the robots are crushing skulls and that really rugged looking John Connor with scars all over his face.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Like where's that movie at? Like a good version of that movie. The one with Christian Bale? No, no, no. The one with the John Connor from T2. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Like, give us that movie.

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Yeah, it'd be cool if they did it with kind of like the 80s science fiction. Like this was what, 90 two? Uh 91. This was 91. So like the early 90s, late 80s kind of sci-fi vibe. Harley was on a roll. Yeah, he was. He's crushing it. So um but I think like the stuff they do today with like too much CG and like they try to inject a lot of lore to keep the franchise. I I've seen every one of the Terminator movies, and every one of them they try to reinvent the wheel on how the story is supposed to go. Yeah. To keep a franchise.

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Lore done well is lore you don't have to explain. But I mean, there there has to be some sort of explanation, but a lot of times what makes lore great is it's all in the background. It's like all the world is built, you're just in it at this moment.

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Yeah, but like even like lore that you had to explain would be you know somewhat more acceptable than the Terminator franchise because every movie that comes out, they spend half the movie explaining the retcon, and then the other half saying this is how the story's gonna go from here on, and then it flops, and then and then they can do it all over again.

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I really feel like they should do a lot less with the time travel stuff, have the you know, the initial time travel thing, but not make it like a whole big thing and just have a slight upgrade in the technology. They don't need they were jumping ahead of the technology really fast as far as like what the Terminator can do coming back.

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Well, I mean like the T1000s pretty much peak. Yeah, right? Like it's liquid metal, yeah. And then they went to like the advanced version of that was an endoskeleton with liquid metal around it for T3, which is stupid.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

It was like that seemed like a step back. It did, didn't it?

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Yeah, so you just made it vulnerable again by making that have an actual skeleton. Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know what that was all about. But um, anyways, so Skynet sends the T1000, an advanced shape-shifting prototype terminator made of virtually indestructible liquid metal back in time to kill resistance leader John Connor when he was a child. Uh one thing that kind of bothered me in the beginning was the cop that the T1000 Robert Patrick kills is a different dude than like the phase of the. It should have been Robert Patrick. Because like he kills a cop and then just goes off on a murder spree throughout.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Oh wait, I thought metal couldn't go through.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

What? Yeah, it can't go through.

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But he's liquid metal.

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Well, so

Time Travel Rules And Plot Holes

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is the terminator. Semantics Tom!

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Semantics. But he's an uh endoscale and surrounded by living tissue. That's true. So maybe like he can Because inorganic material can't travel through time.

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Maybe he can make I don't know, maybe they advanced the transportation device.

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I did read that supposedly there was like this egg sac thing that he was in, but they cut that from the film.

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So James Cameron didn't.

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So they just put him in like a sausage casing. Essentially, it's just he just pops out like essentially that's like toothpaste.

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Yeah, it just got I can see like James Cameron really fighting for that because it is in keeping with the lore. And then they were like, bro, that's like a hundred thousand dollars. Like no one's gonna notice that. Yeah, nobody's gonna know. Your little one line about only biological material. But anyway. And here we are, years later, talking about you did you're right all along, James Cameron. Um, but he kills this cop and then takes his car and his stuff and goes on a murder rampage throughout LA. And then like nobody questions like the death of this cop. There's not like a manhunt looking for the copy.

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It's like and this isn't like you know, Poe Dunk Mill and nowhere like this is Los Angeles. This is the second biggest law enforcement agency in the United States. He's driving the cop's car around everywhere. Yeah, I know. It's probably before like Lowjack and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Well, still it gotta be pretty easy. Like being.

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But there was like no check-ins, no nothing. It's like, oh, you know, yeah. But they have radios and he's uh able to unless he just decides like he like you know, figures out like, oh hang on, he's like reading like before he goes back in time, like LEPD procedure manuals that they found. He's like, okay, these are all the radios. But he's also searching for John Connor on like while answering 911 calls for service, he's like showing up at like Dave.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

What are you talking about? I've been Dave the whole time.

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But um he just showed he just has sunglasses on, so nobody notices.

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So whatever database he's like getting into on that mobile computer inside of his car, somebody should be able to know, like, oh, the guy who killed and took so-and-so's car was searching John Connor. Maybe we should follow up on that. But like that was the you know, early 90s, people didn't understand how the internet worked. I'll give you a like Connor.

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Hey, you remember when that weird dude like killed like 30 cops in like 1984 and it was going after somebody named Sarah Connor and killed a bunch?

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Like it was like a landmark disaster in human history, and I I guess it was, but you know, for this timeline or whatever.

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I wonder why the guy, why the T1000 kept going back to being the cop? Like, why wouldn't he just change forms? Cool.

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Because no one's gonna stop and challenge him. Because cops are bad yours. And it was this is like 1990s LAPD. Yeah, you don't talk to them, you look away when they won't buy. Yeah, everybody's just like oh it's them. Yeah.

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The worst shots. Bad boys, bad boys. Uh, anyways, so to protect John, the resistance sends back a reprogrammed T-800 Terminator, a less advanced metal uh endoskeleton covered in living tissue. You know, the thing from the first one. In 1995, Los Angeles oh, so this is 95, not 91. The movie was in 91, but the story takes place in '95. John's mother, Sarah, is incarcerated in a she's in a hospital. A mental health hospital. Dead place for her violent efforts to prevent Judgment Day. The prophesized events of August 29th, 1997. Two years away. Two when Skynet will gain sentience and in response to its creator's attempts to deactivate it, incite a nuclear holocaust. Uh yeah, backstory, backstory, backstory. Uh John's living with his foster parents also considers Sarah delusional and resents her efforts to prepare him for his future role. Yeah, he keeps talking about like all the dudes his mom was like shacking up with to like teach him how to shoot guns and stuff like that. You know, I mean, I get it. She's like bank robber runs out like murdering people.

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Oh, that guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

That guy knows what he's doing. So I get it. Like she's trying to prevent the apocalypse and stuff, but it was just kind of like, What why do we gotta hear about that? Who's your daddy once? I don't know. If she just like knows how to load a shotgun and stuff, and it was so crazy guy for the future with hobo pants. I I wouldn't ask too many questions, like, how does this kid know how to load a shotgun?

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I didn't need to know a because this is before you could blame Grand Theft Auto. Yeah. Or Call of Duty. And then he's like credit card skimming, like ATMs.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

I want to know how you figured that mess out.

SPEAKER_02 15:24

I guess it's like where do you get like that equipment?

SPEAKER_03 15:27

Yeah, it was basically like uh like a uh computer wire lead on a credit card that just duct taped it and then swiped a card like it's gonna be able to read that. There's no chips in credit cards back then.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Yeah, it was all magic back then.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

Yeah, I didn't even know. And it wasn't it was a debit card, right? It was the magnetic strip special. Did they have debit cards back then? Yeah, I'm sure. Well, they need a pen number to get whatever they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Well that's what they were doing.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Yeah. Yeah, I love how like But he's like robbing an ATM.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

It's like, let's go to the arcade. It's like, yeah, kids. It's like kids committing felonies, but they're still kids.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

And you recognize his friend, did you? Yeah. Uh is that a kid from Big? No, salute my shorts.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yeah, yeah. Isn't he in um Honey I Shrunk the Kids? Is he? I think so.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

I thought the the Honey I Shrunk Yid was in the middle of the kids.

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I think he is. Yeah, that kid's in big. Yeah. The red-headed kid is in the kids. I thought they were the same kid. I thought they were the same kid too.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Oh wow. I don't think they are.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

But yeah, he's trying to hack this pen thing, and it's funny because like it's four numbers, and the computer's obviously boiling down to whatever the the digits are. Like it's complicated. Algorithms. I mean, you could essentially the rhythms are algorithmic. You could do the same thing in like a day if you just work at it. Just try every possible combination. Uh but yeah. So, anyways, a T-1000 locates John in a shopping mall, but the T 800 intervenes coming to John's aid. And I I I always wondered if the trailer for Terminator 2 showed it in a way where like the T-1000 was trying to rescue John and the T-800 uh was like there to kill him because they the whole movie leading up to that point, you're supposed to believe that that Schwarzenegger's T 800 is there to kill the kid. And then like when he whips the shotgun out of the box of roses, which is cool. Yeah, he's like, get down, and then you're like, What?

SPEAKER_00 17:19

He's a good guy, you know. Well, from what I read when they showed the trailer originally, they didn't show the T1000 at all, and they just showed the Terminator in like the action sequences, like he was coming back, so that

Mall Reveal And No-Kill Orders

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people the audience wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:30

That would be wild though. Like if you walked in to think like you're just getting in there Terminator, yeah, and then you see like this liquid metal dude, you're like, What yeah, it's not like nowadays where they show you a trailer and it's pretty much the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

The whole movie.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

Yeah, yeah. Um the T-800 intervenes, John calls to warn his foster parents, but the T-800 deduces the T1000 party.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Your foster parents are dead.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

He's like, How's Wolfie? Wolfie's fine, dude. Your foster parents are dead. Click. Just breaks it to him easy. Uh realizing the T-800 uh is reprogrammed to obey him, John forbids it to kill people and orders it to help him rescue Sarah from a T 1000. He forbids it to kill people. He didn't forbid it to making people wish they were dead. Yeah, you never said not to main. You just kneecap with everything. I love that part where he's just walking through the cops and they're just lighting him up, and he's just kneecap, kneecap, kneecap.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

They're all like it's like ruining careers.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

It's like they all need physical therapy now. They all have canes, they all have limps.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

The T-800 and John intercepts Sarah as she attempts to escape the hospital. Initially horrified that the T-800 resembles the Terminator sent to kill her in 1984. She joins them and escapes the pursuing T 1000. I mean, that was kind of a big leap there. So, like, she's in this like psych ward.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

And the doctor, psychiatrist guy from the first one's there.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he doesn't believe anything she's saying, you know, she's she's crazy, and she's like attacked him a couple of times because she's like I would too. She's like female Rambo. He's a douche. The weird, uh weird like orderlies like licking her face when she's pretending to be in a coma and stuff like that. You know, just I was like, yeah, he she she deserves to kick his butt.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Is this where she shows up and kills the security guard? She's a girl. The T1000 does. Yeah. Well, that dude is a twin. Is a twin. Yeah. Like they are identical, so they just dressed up the twins to do it. Yeah. And the same thing as uh Linda Hamilton's twin sister. No, I didn't know that. She's in it too. I didn't even know. When the T1000s pretend to be her. And they come out and they do like the Spider-Man thing. Yeah. That's actually just her.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

I didn't I didn't know she had a twin sister. That's crazy. All the twins. And it's funny because like that twin footage stuff was like easy technology back then. Yeah. If you have the actual person, but when you have an actual twin, it's just like James Cameron's like, it's not authentic enough. I want the real thing. So uh but yeah, that was really cool how they did all that. Uh they really start to show off the T1000, like it like smooths itself into the floor, and the guy steps on it, and you can see like the boot imprint as it starts to like form itself into the bipedal thing. And uh you know, makes his finger stab the guy. Yeah. Uh but we've already seen him like how the extent of like his weaponry as the T 1000, where he kills uh his his foster father through the milk. Yeah, he's like uh verbally abusing his dead foster mom.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

I like as as the the foster mom, he just switches the phone to the other side and goes like no nonchalant.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

He's like ah through the mouth. Yeah. Uh but yeah, this the to really see kind of like how dangerous the T1000 is, it and that that was a great scene in the hospital to showcase how because like the T 800 and the first terminal, he just walks through everything in slow pursuit. This one's a lot more meticulous and thought provoking, and how he like confuses people and can take their shapes and stuff, and basically can slip through bars and whatever. You know, I love that that gif the Pomeranium walking through the cigarette falls out of his mouth. Yeah. Uh so, anyways, they escape. Um and uh she joins him and uh she Sarah uses the T 800's knowledge of the future to learn a revolutionary microprocessor being developed by Cyberdyne engineer Miles Dyson. Good job, will be crucial to Skynet's creation. Over the course of their journey, Sarah sees the T eight hundred serving as a friend and father figure to John, who teaches it catchphrases like Pasta La Vista, baby.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Which I read No Problemo. The 15 million that Arnold made, he made he had 700 words. He basically made $21,429 per word. Asta La Vista, baby, was $85,716.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

I think uh Robert Patrick had even less. I think he had like six lines the entire movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

But like he because when he's shooting, his eyes never flinch.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Yeah, so Robert Patrick went through an extensive training on how to run with his mouth closed for extended periods of time, just breathing through his nose, and how to he went to a gun range to train himself to shoot with his eyes open.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

They said he's an incredibly fast runner, too. Yeah. They said because uh there was one of them that said the truck was pulling uh Edward Furlong on the motorcycle, and they said he turned around and he was tapping him on the shoulder. Yeah, he's like, you gotta go faster.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

And then he probably turns like we skipped all through the chase with the LA sewer.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

The crappy Wikipedia descriptions.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

I'm sorry. That's such a really that is a really cool chase.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Yeah, so it's in that uh that classic reshot over and over again, like uh culvert LA you know the LA River sewer system drained out. You see it in like a butt ton of movies, but um yeah, so he's chasing them. The at the the T 800 rescues John Connor, uh gets him off of his stupid little dirt bike, which by the way, if a semi-truck like bumper bumps that dirt bike, that kid's that kid's going under. Dirt bikes aren't that fast, no.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Uh yeah, I don't know. But uh so he yanks them onto his, I guess a Harley. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Yeah, which probably isn't that much faster. Yeah. No, so it wouldn't be well, depending on what he gets him onto a conveniently fast motorcycle. So we can get Arnold doing the John Wayne revolt lever action.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

That part's cool. You know, James Cameron's like, all right, we gotta see this like eight times because it's so cool. It's just so cool.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

It's like do another one, another one. But the lever for that shotgun, they customized it. Yeah, because Arnold was trying to do it with the stock one, and it would just fly off his hand. Yeah, or it would like crush his foot. And then they're just like, all right, we'll do a big one so he could do the loops with it.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

They said that he hit Edward Furlong in the head several times, trying to loop it.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

There's a couple of times where he's like holstering it, yeah, and there's like a six-inch gap between Edward Furlong's head and Arnold Schwarzenegger's chest. He's gotta go behind it while making eye contact with whatever he blew up, and I could just see him stabbing that kid in the head with a barrel. But uh uh the action scene for that was like really cool and fun to watch, but you could tell it was kind of orchestrated, like, okay, like why didn't you shoot the tires from the beginning and stuff, you know? But they wanted to kind of stretch it out and make it more intense. Uh there's a couple of sequences throughout the movie where it seemed like unnecessary violence, you know, uh, which was cool for that time. I think today the audience is like, why don't you just shoot the guy? You know, stuff like that. But um yeah, so rescues the kid, rescues the mom. They're learning about the lore now with the microprocessors and Miles uh Dyson. Uh she uh convinces uh the T-800 and to take her to like one of her uh revolutionary buddies or whatever that has like a minigun and a grenade launcher.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Underground bunker slash weapons that you shouldn't have because there would be like a massive manhunt. It's just like these are these aren't supposed to be.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

I guess they were in well, Nicaragua, as as John Connor would keep saying. So um yeah. But anyway, so they uh essentially get these guns. She they they she decides that she's gonna go Rambo on her own, and

Dyson Cyberdyne And Moral Shift

SPEAKER_03 25:50

um she goes to uh Miles Dyson's house, and she's like I'm gonna kill him. She says she's gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. But she waits until the boy is like like his son is like there in the picture, and she's like, Nah, now's a good time. She takes a shot, she misses, because like uh I don't know, you got distracted by the son or something.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Well, because the son drops the truck up and hits him in the foot.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

He's like, ow, you know, he bent down and his computer explodes, and he looks back, like, what was that? And then she goes full auto into his house with everyone around. Yeah, she doesn't care. And then only when she played only when she gets close, you know, and like her son's or his son's like, please don't kill my dad.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

She's like, Oh, I feel bad. I feel things new.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

I have a child too. Yeah. Who I've brought with me on this quest to kill you.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

So then like uh John Connor and the T-800 show up and he's like, do it. He hands him a knife and he like de-gloves his arm. And they're like screaming, like, which is the most like actual reaction I think anybody would have is like, what are you doing? He shows off as like uh flesh terminator hand yeah, gross like like chunks of meter dangling off of it, and uh now all of a sudden he believes, you know. He's been working on it, so I I get it. And uh they uh they agree to like blow up Dinah Core or wherever's place engine cyberdyne. Cyberdyne, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Dinacore like cool sci-fi corporate name.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

And uh Skynet. Yeah. And uh he says goodbye, like like two seconds to his wife and kid that'll never see again. So they really didn't even need him.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Nah, yeah, they didn't he didn't need to have a family.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

No, they didn't like they could have just killed her because it didn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Well, yeah, because they got it into like two doors and then he couldn't get to the the last one they needed, so they just had to blow it up anyways.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

That's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

They killed him for no reason.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Yeah, he he could he could have just been like, well, here's my access card, like this is how you get in.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

So their plan was their plan was to get through the front door and like tie up the security guard and put him in the bathroom. The men's bathroom.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Well, uh the men's bathroom is always the safer place.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

Well, the the guy who's like, dang it, Randy, where are you? He immediately goes to the guy's bathroom. They don't even hide him. Were you taking a dump in here? He's like he's like laid out on the ground, tied up. Yeah, and they're he like they're gonna put him in the bathroom, like in a stall or something.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

What I like is that he goes in, sees his guy tied up and immediately just runs out to go hit the button, leaves the guy there.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I mean, that was probably a smart thing to do, but um, because like he hits the panic button and then like all their locks are shut down. So yeah, they didn't they didn't need the the Miles guy at all. Anyways, every cop on the planet shows up in a helicopter, and they all have like SMGs and SWAT was on on the ready. Yeah, yeah, just down the street. That's the old holy crap, it's the guy from 1984.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

They kept saying that. Like the LA FD's just been training and waiting for payback for that.

unknown 28:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

And that's when they look out the out their window up there and they just see the minigun turned. It's like, ah. You know, one of them is just like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Yeah, uh, John Connor is like, don't kill anybody. It's like I wrote he just like hoses call exploding. Yeah, come on, somebody.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

It's like fired 3,000 rounds.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Somebody died yeah, when when your machine gun doesn't sound like but it's like somebody died. Like if it sounds like you're farting into a kazoo, it's way more fire thanks.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

It's like you can't, it's like you can't snipe people with a minigun. I wonder how they did the practical effects for that, because they had people right next to those cars as they were being chewed up, exploded. And it wasn't like squibs were like like a hole here and there would pop out. They were they look like shrapnel was going everywhere. I'm like, how are they doing that? That's so cool. Uh but anyway, so he he he he uh halts the cops for a moment with his uh with his haberdashery of the minigun, and uh he's like you know, I bought you sometime, and they do the stupid dual key thing, which is a MacGuffin, just a like yeah, yeah, and he's gonna hack the stupid thing to get the pen to get the key, whatever. It's just a reason to pause the movie so that we can focus on violence for a little bit. Um you have the uh the guy, he's holding like the dead man switch thing. Well, so like uh the the SWAT team show up and there's the one black guy there that's got no guns and they light him up.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

No questions asked. And you know, whoops, they kill that guy while he's dying, and he's like, I don't know how long I can hold his bomb.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Yeah, he does a goo goo. Is it seen like the fart edit? Uh-huh. Where somebody like puts in farts in funny spots and all this? Yeah. Uh anyway, so you're like he stops his final breath and you hear just it blows up the whole building. They escape down the elevator. Uh uh the T1000 shows up and it's doing its stabby thing through the elevator, which is a pretty cool scene. Um, and uh they he they they get out, the SWAT team's there, and he's just kneecapping all SWAT people are trying to shoot him. They put uh they shoot CS gas in the room that's wet you know to try and stop him from escaping. And she only has one mask. Yeah. So she keeps alternating between her and John Connor. Like how it works. No, they would be just snot ropes. They're just trading snot back and forth. They'd be running into those bullets. But uh he gets like this this uh SWAT van and rescues them, and they get on the road, and that and then the T 1000 takes over the helicopter. Out of all the people he doesn't kill, he chooses the helicopter pilot. He's like he just like morphs into the spot. He's like, get out. The dude just jumps up.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

He's like, say less.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

But uh, I don't know why he just didn't kill that guy. I don't know, that was weird.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Uh they did say that with the he's chasing them with the helicopter that they couldn't actually CGI the way they wanted to with him flying under the the uh the bridges. Yeah, so he said the helicopter like stunt pilot was just like I'll just do it for real. And they're like, What? As he flies under the few just flying to the bridge, yeah. No, no big deal. So I thought it was kind of a cool little uh interesting fact.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

So can't do that. Can't do that nowadays. Uh but yeah, that that was pretty cool. The whole like boarding up the van with uh vests to stop the bullets. Nah. Alright. And then the uh they wreck on the side of the road, he like melts into a fiery explosion, the T1000, and then some like dude shows up, like, are you okay? He's got like a dog house in his car, in his truck. Remember that he shows up with that truck and it's got like a weird house in the back of it. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, Give me your keys. He just okay, okay, stranger. He was Canadian, yeah. So he gives him the keys, and now the dude uh the the T1000 has taken the this like conveniently cryogenic uh what's that liquid nitrogen like tanker? Because you see those everywhere. And can't tell you how many times I passed. I know all the time. And yeah, takes that and and pursues them with uh with that while they're driving their weird. To a foundry. Yeah, it's too. It's always in a foundry foundry every time.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Always in a foundry or some sort of factory, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Industrial place. Lots of violence. Uh the the foundry workers were not about that life. They immediately left when the liquid nitrogen showed up. I don't get paid for that. Yeah, they they ever get out of here. Liquid nitrogen, gunfight about to happen. The T1000 gets frozen and like shatters himself a little bit as he's uh as he's trying to like pursue him. And that was really cool how they did that, like somehow blend the like the the prosthetic that breaks off of Robert Patterson's leg and Patrick's leg and uh you know into his real parts, and then uh they shoot him and he's like shatters, which is a really cool thing

Foundry Finale And Liquid Metal

SPEAKER_03 33:54

too. Uh I'm sure that was a million dollars right there. And you know, of course, because it's a foundry, it's hot, he starts to like melt and liquidize himself back together and pursues him into the foundry, beats up the T-800, uh, and like Arnold Schwarzenegger's hand gets crushed in his like wheel and he's gonna break it off with a pipe of some sort. And uh which is funny because like the hand is there and they take like huge concern to destroy all evidence of the the Terminators, but the hand is still stuck in that cog. I thought they thought she throws the hand in there. The hand from Dynacor.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Oh, yeah, that's that's right. Oh, so there's another hand for Terminator 3 for Miles Dyson's son, yeah. Little Dyson. Um that he uses to make a hell of a vacuum cleaner.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

And uh, but so you like it's a whole will they want they thing. Like, obviously the T 1000 is better than the T 800, and he's beating him and everything. Um, and like he's basically down to just like a stump with one hand. Oh, we'll call it a drill. His face is all chewed up because he smashes it in that giant rebar thing, and uh Linda Hamilton's like uh getting impaled with his finger pokey thingy. And uh yeah, it was a pretty cool ending. Uh she shoots him with a shotgun, but she needs that one more shot to knock him over the ledge. He's not doing it though, because she's empty. And uh then he comes like over like the revolving wheel thing, the T-800. They just like get down, and they they drop and he shoots him with a grenade launcher, which by the way, cannot detonate uh closer than 50 meters. Anyways. Um blows in half, and he's like 20 feet away from the edge. Yeah, but he's just like I give up, and he flips over the edge.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Which I don't understand why he couldn't just still form back together.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

But what at that moment?

SPEAKER_02 35:51

Yeah, well, what's it before what's funny is in one of the Terminator movies, uh Arnold Terminator kills young John Connor and then get adopts the name Carl and just like lives with like a family. Yeah, that was a dumb and like becomes like a normal kind of person, but he's still a Terminator. I never understood that one. What if the T1000 won and he like killed all of them and then he's like alright, and he's like, guess I'm late for roll call. He just goes and becomes the best cop ever. He retires as like a you know, a captain, like a storied hero. He has like a whole family of like little terminators.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

That's what he was fighting for. Just wanted to live. And then the uh like the whole John Connor doesn't want a T800 to kill himself because he's like his best friend/slash father figure now.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Totally forgets about his buddy who covered for him with the Terminator, yeah, risking his life. Yeah, he's just like he was a side character. He was holding me back.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

He went to summer campus, salute my shorts. Yeah, he was holding him back.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

Imagine like him trying to tell his friends. Guys, you won't believe what happened. I was gone. But uh anyway, so that he does the iconic lower into the lava thing and gives him the thumbs up, yeah, and then boom, the the movie pretty much just ends. Like they kind of give you some sort of like little uh like cryptic thing about the future, and that's the end of it. Yeah. Uh my thing was like the T-800 trying to be best friends with John Connor seemed kind of like out of left field. Why did he care so much about well because he was programmed to he was programmed to to obey him?

SPEAKER_00 37:27

I don't think like what like why because John Connor was trying to What's wrong with your eyes? He was trying to understand. He was so from what I read, then they don't explain it very well in the movie, but they said that he was supposed to have like an AI to where he's learning as he goes along. Yeah, he was learning to be more the neural nattis to blend in better.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

Because he does it in Terminator One, where he first shows up and then just like oh nice knife for a walk, huh? And he just nice knife for a walk, huh? Yeah. And then he kills him. Rips us apart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Learned a lot there. I don't know. The whole like uh it would have been, I think, better if he didn't care. Like when he's crying, he's got his weird bony broken finger and he's like wiping his tear away. It just seemed kind of like forced. Oh, he he loves him. This is a sad moment. I'm sad for the robot. But other than that, it's it's definitely the best one. Uh it it takes practical effects and the early days of computer-generated effects, and you know, brings it to a whole new ball game for where movies were at the time. Set the bar really high. And James Cameron can just just crush it. Like he makes maybe one movie every five years, but when he does, so uh I give this a nine out of ten. I doubt that. That's a nine out of ten. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. In fact, I would say this is Schwarzenegger's best movie.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Well, this is like on the top 250 movies on IMDb, it's number 28. And Terminator's the only hero and villain in the top 100 heroes and villains list. On both he's the only one on both lists.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

So I mean the movie won 39 awards, and so I think four of them were Oscars.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

Dang. Yeah, I I I would you say that this is Schwarzenegger's best movie? I would, yes. Cam. Yeah, Pratter.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

It says adjusted for inflation. The second highest grossing movie for an R-rated film was this.

Legacy Ratings And Arnold Debate

SPEAKER_00 39:21

The only thing that beat it was Deadpool Wolverine. Like encompassing the the inflation part. Really?

SPEAKER_03 39:31

I'm trying to think, like, did it have to be R-rated?

SPEAKER_00 39:35

I mean, there was a lot of violence that was like poking him in the eye, and but really it's not that much. Well, back then R was different than what it is now.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

I mean, he could have just been I guess stabbing people in the face is pretty pretty R-rated. And they had language too.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

So But no, I mean it was it'd be PG 13 PG 13 nowadays. You think so? I think so. I think they'd get away with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

I always thought the 80s had a like a less.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

To me, like nowadays R is like the Evil Dead movies. Where it's just gratuitous gore and that's pretty much the way it's gone.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

I don't think James Cameron does R-rated movies. Well, he only does Avatar anyways. Yeah, now. Yeah. I think like just the Terminator were the only two R-rated movies he's done. Right? I think so. Can't think of anything else. Was piranha rated or well he wasn't the director of that movie. Or Aliens. Aliens was bizarre. Okay. Wasn't it? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was. Sure. Perhaps. Well.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Hey, ladies and gentlemen. We had a little bit of an interruption between our recordings. We had an interview that we had to do. So Tom and Hayden had to leave. But I wanted to go ahead and give you some of this news that uh I'd kind of research and stuff before uh before it becomes old. I want to go ahead and have y'all have what I have here. Uh anybody in the video games where you have Godzilla Destroy All Monsters remake coming out. It's the 2002 kind of like beat-em-up, you know, Smash Brothers kind of style where you're you're in a city and you're just you're destroying the city as you're fighting each other and you know, just a fighting game. We also have uh Resident Evil Veronica, which is it's a remake of Code Veronica from 2000, which I think it was on Dreamcast and maybe GameCube and a couple others. Um they're making a remake

Bonus Entertainment News Roundup

SPEAKER_00 41:33

of that, kinda like they've made uh Resident Evil 2 and 3 remakes. You know, they're they're they're kind of working their way back through the series, really. Uh the next thing we have Marvel Token, I think that's how you pronounce it. But it's kind of like a uh a fighting uh game, but it's it's a lot more like uh trying to think it's kind of like uh Dragon Ball Super Z, where like as you fight, there's a lot of cinematic fights that take place in between the fight. So you're you know you're doing your moves and whenever you do like a special, it's it's like a whole long cinematic, kind of like Dragon Ball Xenoverse or I guess like Super Z. Uh then let's see the next thing, Metal Gear Solid the Master Collection, Volume 2 comes out on August 27th, so that's a little more remastered stuff. Uh then we have Star Wars Zero Company, which comes out August 27th, and this is something that I've only just recently kind of learned about because I just must have missed it or something, but it comes out soon on August 27th. But it's a uh like an RPG turn-based kind of uh fighter almost like similar to uh to Baldur's Gate 3 that I just kinda looked over. It's based in the Clone Wars era, so like uh Anakin Skywalker at one point made uh I guess an appearance in the uh in the trailer that I was watching. Uh but it does have a lot of customization with like the the person, the weapons, like it showed, you know, changing the person's clothes, changing the like the the sight and the grips and stuff on some of the weapons, which is kind of neat. And Zero Company. Basically it's just like a hodgepodge of different I guess races and uh classes of of different people all in one one kind of like battle group. Yeah, the next thing is there's the uh game called Blood of the Dawnwalker that comes out September third, which it's kinda like a a a vampire I wanna say RPG because like you upgrade your stats and all that stuff. But it it supposedly from what I understand it takes place over like seven days that the storyline does. And those seven days no matter what you're doing, those keep going as you're going through different quests. So it's kind of like a a short playthrough, and then each each time is a different uh quest or a different like ending depending on what you've done. So there there's like you know, a love quest, there's a a warrior quest, all sorts of different stuff. But uh during the day it's a little different for vampires. Like during the day in this one you're just like basically a warrior and at night is when you get all the the special souped up vampire powers. Which is kind of interesting. The fighting looks good, the graphics look good. So it's something I'd be interested in checking out. The next thing we have we have Wolverine, uh which comes out on September 15th, which I'm looking forward to because it's made by Insomniac, which is the same ones that made Spider-Man 1, 2, and then is working on 3 as well. And they've done a really good job with the Spider-Man games as far as like hiding Easter eggs and sticking towards the the characters in the story being like they should be in the like in the comics or different uh movies and stuff. So I'm really excited to see kind of how they work into the Wolverine world with all the different like weapon X program and his uh different times with like Alpha Flight and stuff from the comics. Because there's a lot of characters that kind of intertwine with Wolverine, even if it's just a little bit. Uh you got Call of Duty Modern Warfare, which comes out October 22nd, which to me it looks like it's going to be a lot better than the more recent stuff that they've had. Um I'm hoping that they finally did listen, like they say they have, to the community and not just streamers, and breaking it back to like the basics of Call of Duty and what Call of Duty is supposed to be, and not you know, run around with rainbow guns shooting lasers and eggs and you know chickens or whatever at each other. You actually go back to actual you know soldiers doing missions in in a realistic environment. I'm really excited about the DMZ because that was something I liked in the first one when it was considered a beta in Modern Warfare 2, and then they kind of skipped it for three, so then they're finally bringing it back for four. And they've done a lot of research into like Arc Raiders and how their stuff works, so they want to incorporate that into the new DMZ. And from what I understand from what I'm listening to, like the just like in Arc Raiders, where you get supplies to help you make things, they're gonna incorporate that into this. Like you'll have to get supplies to help make thermal night vision or get supplies to help make like a better magazine or something like that, which will definitely make it a lot have a lot more replay value. The original DMZ, you could get guns, but like pretty much all the other stuff that you found in the world was just useless unless you're doing that specific mission. So it's kind of nice that they kind of looked in and evaluated based on the success of some of the other stuff to see how it needs to go. Uh the next thing we have is Gears, uh Gears of War E-Day, which comes out October 6th, which is it's gonna be an interesting uh transition from like the the typical Gears of War, because it's supposed to be the original, like the the day that the the locusts and stuff showed up. So there'll be I would imagine it would be similar to maybe like Ho Halo ODST, where like you're not gonna have the guns in the gear just to like run through people. You're gonna have to be a little more tactical and like I guess stealthy in the way you move, I would think, based on what I saw in the trailer, because like I I watched uh Marcus Phoenix with a gun just shooting down at a locust, but it's not doing anything because it's just like a regular gun, not something you know, his normal chainsaw type gun. Uh let's see, the next thing, uh, this was just kind of a rumor right now, but supposedly they're making they're working on a Halo Fireteam Noble, which will go back to uh Noble 6 from Halo Reach. It'll be another story involving him. I don't know if it's somehow they're gonna say he survived, or if they're gonna go back and say, like, this is uh a prequel to you know who he was before he joined uh the Halo Reach team, which I think could be pretty interesting. Uh let's see, the next thing, some of the TV stuff we have is the uh Cyberpunk Edge Runners season two, which that's uh uh kind of an animated series on Netflix, which it's a more adult animated. I wouldn't recommend kids unless that's just something you want them to watch. But it's uh it's kind of bloody and graphic, but it's based on the uh cyberpunk video game, and it was a really good first season that they had. I don't know if it's gonna be a whole different cast of characters or if they're gonna continue that first person story, but it was it was really good uh animation. The action sequencers were good, the story was good, so I'm interested to see how season two will turn out. Uh let's see, we have uh there's gonna couple of different animated series that uh DC kind of announced, but other than that, I don't really know anything about. There they have the three different animated series is Absolute Batman, Joker, Laugh Riot, and uh Crypto, the uh Superman's Dog animated series, which the only one I could really tell you anything about would be Absolute Batman, which is basically there's a whole if you follow Batman, you know the absolute storyline that they came out with, which is like a a an elts world Batman. It's not the the main Batman in the comics, but he's like super jacked with big old muscles. His his uh front uh Batman like symbol comes off as like a battle axe. His uh his cape from what it looks like has kind of like a uh the spawn kind of cape where it kind of like shoot out and like yeah, I guess it can stab or grab people. But then you have characters like in that uh series, that comic series, it's like Joker's this like lizard monster looking thing. All the characters are a little bit different in there, a little pretty much all a little more creepier and uh violent. So I imagine this would be like an adult animated series as well. The uh the Joker Laugh Riot, I don't really know much about, and then I I would imagine crypto would be kind of a comedic kind of thing. More for kids. Uh let's see, and then going to some of the movies. There's a movie called Werewolf with uh Robert Eggers. This gonna have uh what's his name? Forgot his name now. Oh uh Aaron Taylor Johnson, he's like the main actor in this one. And it's comes out on December 25th, and it's based in like medieval Britain. And just watching the trailer, it's it's made, you know, like I said, by uh Robert Eggers, who also did Nosferatu, so it's got that same kind of like gritty old world feel to it. And I'm wondering if there's actually a werewolf in this, or they just call it werewolf because you had like some of the the pagan people that believe that you know, oh well the lycanthropy is just a state of mind that people would go into. So I'm wondering if they're gonna kind of play it that direction or if there actually is a supernatural like werewolf in the movie. Because nowhere in the trailer do you see one or the hint of one other than like you hear a wolf howl. So I that's my thought, is that they're gonna go into the uh more this person just believes they're a werewolf, so they go crazy and you know, kind of like psycho berserker kind of person. Uh see, there's a there's gonna be a 24 jump street that's supposed to be in the works. There's not really a whole lot of information about it. I did read a little small thing where they said, well, it's been so long that we just skipped 23, went straight to 24 jump street, uh, which I thought was kind of funny. There is a uh that I want to say they confirmed it, but there was rumors that Ron Howard and Jim Carrey are returning to make a Grinch Stole Christmas sequel. Um I don't know how true that is, but it is some stuff that I've seen, and then it was from like a couple of new legitimate uh news sites that I'd seen. I want to say Variety had mentioned it. Um can't think of who else, possibly. Uh let's see. The next thing, or well, really the last thing that I have is um DC has announced two other uh like real life uh shows, like not cartoon. Uh one, well, actually it's just one. It's called DC Crime, and it's it's gonna be based on Jimmy Olsen from the Superman movie as a like a helping a detective kind of true crime story. I guess he's I don't know if he's helping the the police or if he's trying to be a pol part of the police, and then Grod will be the villain that they're kind of researching and stuff, trying to figure out possibly who's killing these people, and they realize it'll be Grodd later on. But that's that's kind of a rumor that's he's part of like the detective going into a true crime, and then Grod will be the villain of that TV series, and it'll be on HBO as well. Um that's all I really had at the moment for news. Um, I just wanted to you know check back in, make sure we had a little added little bit of something to our other episode that had to be wrapped up a little bit shorter. We were talking about Terminator 2, but I wanted to get this news out there before it became really old. I know some of it's already like a week or week and a half old, but I think it'll be really cool to the the Marvel token uh fighting fighting souls looked really good. It's like almost like a like I said, uh Dragon Ball Super Z where it was like the cell shaded kind of fighting. But uh I'm interested to see how some of this stuff comes out. Uh just want to thank you all for tuning in and have a good day. Thank you. Bye.