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Thank"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":353.14,"endTime":356.74,"body":"you. All right. So question here"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":356.74,"endTime":360.9,"body":"that came in, if I have many"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":356.74,"endTime":360.9,"body":"teams that make up a release, I"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":360.9,"endTime":364.86,"body":"can see the estimates for my"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":360.9,"endTime":364.86,"body":"features for the release. I know"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":364.86,"endTime":368.82,"body":"how much time we have left, but"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":364.86,"endTime":368.82,"body":"how do I know it's on track"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":368.82,"endTime":373.98,"body":"using a chart? 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Thank"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":682.94,"endTime":685.7,"body":"you. I hope that helps. 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The other"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1015.78,"endTime":1021.56,"body":"team, I assume might have been a"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1021.56,"endTime":1024.68,"body":"typo, meaning the other team's"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1021.56,"endTime":1024.68,"body":"input is a prerequisite to move"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1024.68,"endTime":1024.92,"body":"on."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1025.28,"endTime":1029.18,"body":"Yep, got it."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1025.28,"endTime":1029.18,"body":"First of all, the question was"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1029.18,"endTime":1034.7,"body":"for best practices. Best always"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1029.18,"endTime":1034.7,"body":"assumes there is nothing better,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1034.76,"endTime":1038.06,"body":"and it works everywhere. 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And the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1050.56,"endTime":1057.52,"body":"second thing is, if I put on my"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1057.52,"endTime":1060.54,"body":"my scrum cap. So if you're just"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1057.52,"endTime":1060.54,"body":"listening to it, I'm just"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1060.54,"endTime":1066.36,"body":"putting on a cap that says dogma"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1060.54,"endTime":1066.36,"body":"cap. We have to understand that"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1066.36,"endTime":1071.7,"body":"if we are doing pure Scrum,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1066.36,"endTime":1071.7,"body":"vanilla Scrum, then we have to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1071.7,"endTime":1076.2,"body":"have a cross functional team,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1071.7,"endTime":1076.2,"body":"and that means no dependencies"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1076.2,"endTime":1082.52,"body":"outside, outside the team. But"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1076.2,"endTime":1082.52,"body":"then again, I realize that not"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1082.52,"endTime":1088.34,"body":"every context has the ability to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1082.52,"endTime":1088.34,"body":"do that for whatever reasons. 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Usually we do it with"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1115.0,"endTime":1122.28,"body":"some straws or tape or whatever."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1115.0,"endTime":1122.28,"body":"So we see product backlog item"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1122.28,"endTime":1129.9,"body":"4711, maps to product backlog"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1122.28,"endTime":1129.9,"body":"item 8080, or something, and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1129.9,"endTime":1134.4,"body":"then we see the dependency and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1129.9,"endTime":1134.4,"body":"the people responsible for those"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1134.4,"endTime":1138.06,"body":"teams. Hopefully it's a single"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1134.4,"endTime":1138.06,"body":"product owner, but very often it"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1138.06,"endTime":1141.26,"body":"isn't. Very often, it's two"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1138.06,"endTime":1141.26,"body":"product owners. They have to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1141.26,"endTime":1146.48,"body":"work together. Now, in the long"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1141.26,"endTime":1146.48,"body":"term, if you're getting more"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1146.48,"endTime":1150.68,"body":"agile, you will most likely"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1146.48,"endTime":1150.68,"body":"figure out that you are better"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1150.68,"endTime":1155.3,"body":"off if you actually create new"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1150.68,"endTime":1155.3,"body":"teams, make them truly cross"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1155.3,"endTime":1160.72,"body":"functional, of course, only if"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1155.3,"endTime":1160.72,"body":"you have recurring dependencies,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1160.72,"endTime":1163.72,"body":"if it happens once in a while,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1160.72,"endTime":1163.72,"body":"nobody cares. But if you have"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1163.72,"endTime":1166.42,"body":"recurrent dependencies, you're"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1163.72,"endTime":1166.42,"body":"always dependent on the other"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1166.42,"endTime":1171.22,"body":"team, then think about"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1166.42,"endTime":1171.22,"body":"recreating the teams so they are"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1171.22,"endTime":1172.6,"body":"truly cross functional."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1174.279,"endTime":1176.859,"body":"Awesome. Thank"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1174.279,"endTime":1176.859,"body":"you. I hope that helps. All"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1176.859,"endTime":1181.979,"body":"right, so here's a question"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1176.859,"endTime":1181.979,"body":"here, how can a new team"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1181.979,"endTime":1186.839,"body":"forecast being a new team? They"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1181.979,"endTime":1186.839,"body":"won't have any empirical"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1186.839,"endTime":1191.399,"body":"velocity performance data, so"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1186.839,"endTime":1191.399,"body":"they cannot use Monte Carlo"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1191.399,"endTime":1193.979,"body":"simulation, et cetera. Yes."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1195.059,"endTime":1199.739,"body":"Well,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1195.059,"endTime":1199.739,"body":"obviously they can't, no matter"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1199.739,"endTime":1203.179,"body":"if. You're doing Scrum, or if"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1199.739,"endTime":1203.179,"body":"you're doing waterfall or"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1203.179,"endTime":1207.679,"body":"whatever, if you have"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1203.179,"endTime":1207.679,"body":"inexperienced people in that"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1207.679,"endTime":1212.179,"body":"topic, inexperienced people,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1207.679,"endTime":1212.179,"body":"whatever they estimate, will"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1212.179,"endTime":1216.259,"body":"just be plainly wrong. And it"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1212.179,"endTime":1216.259,"body":"has always been like that, and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1216.259,"endTime":1220.359,"body":"it will always be like that. Now"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1216.259,"endTime":1220.359,"body":"the difference is, how do you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1220.359,"endTime":1224.799,"body":"deal with that? And if we are in"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1220.359,"endTime":1224.799,"body":"a complex environment, and if we"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1224.799,"endTime":1228.819,"body":"are doing Scrum, then we will"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1224.799,"endTime":1228.819,"body":"revisit the estimate over and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1228.819,"endTime":1232.719,"body":"over again. 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Put numbers"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1498.179,"endTime":1502.099,"body":"into a system, and the system"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1502.099,"endTime":1506.599,"body":"tells me another number, and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1502.099,"endTime":1506.599,"body":"then I believe that number, and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1507.199,"endTime":1512.479,"body":"this false sense of being right"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1507.199,"endTime":1512.479,"body":"is something I then have to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1512.479,"endTime":1516.559,"body":"fight as a product owner. So"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1512.479,"endTime":1516.559,"body":"honestly, I have used it a"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1516.559,"endTime":1520.219,"body":"couple of years ago, but I no"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1516.559,"endTime":1520.219,"body":"longer use it. I try to use"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1520.699,"endTime":1526.179,"body":"methods that convey by the very"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1520.699,"endTime":1526.179,"body":"method that it's uncertain, and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1526.179,"endTime":1531.579,"body":"it's a big difference if I tell"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1526.179,"endTime":1531.579,"body":"management, we estimated this as"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1531.579,"endTime":1537.819,"body":"a t shirt size M, or we"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1531.579,"endTime":1537.819,"body":"estimated it as a stegosaurus or"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1538.239,"endTime":1543.179,"body":"a yellow gummy bear, rather than"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1538.239,"endTime":1543.179,"body":"going there and telling them, we"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1543.179,"endTime":1545.999,"body":"put all the numbers into Monte"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1543.179,"endTime":1545.999,"body":"Carlo simulation, that tells us"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1545.999,"endTime":1550.139,"body":"we will be done by June. Now,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1545.999,"endTime":1550.139,"body":"more or less, of course, I'm"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1550.139,"endTime":1554.999,"body":"exaggerating. I just want to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1550.139,"endTime":1554.999,"body":"highlight the the risks of that."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1557.939,"endTime":1558.419,"body":"Okay,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1559.859,"endTime":1566.539,"body":"thank you. All"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1559.859,"endTime":1566.539,"body":"right, so this one here, it"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1566.539,"endTime":1570.199,"body":"seems like a burn down chart"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1566.539,"endTime":1570.199,"body":"only works for a set scope of"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1570.199,"endTime":1574.339,"body":"work, such as implementing a"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1570.199,"endTime":1574.339,"body":"specific large feature. Is that"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1574.339,"endTime":1578.839,"body":"correct? We are adding new"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1574.339,"endTime":1578.839,"body":"features, running our platform"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1578.839,"endTime":1582.219,"body":"and fixing bugs. Does that"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1578.839,"endTime":1582.219,"body":"change anything about the"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1582.219,"endTime":1586.119,"body":"estimation and burn down charts"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1582.219,"endTime":1586.119,"body":"and delivery dates?"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1588.099,"endTime":1593.079,"body":"Good question."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1588.099,"endTime":1593.079,"body":"First of all, you use a burndown"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1593.079,"endTime":1597.579,"body":"chart to come up with some sort"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1593.079,"endTime":1597.579,"body":"of forecast. You can only"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1597.579,"endTime":1601.619,"body":"forecast something where you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1597.579,"endTime":1601.619,"body":"know the scope. Yeah, if you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1601.619,"endTime":1603.779,"body":"don't know the scope, you can"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1601.619,"endTime":1603.779,"body":"never say when you will be"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1603.779,"endTime":1609.659,"body":"finished, obviously. Now, if you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1603.779,"endTime":1609.659,"body":"are in an environment where part"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1609.659,"endTime":1614.159,"body":"of your work is development"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1609.659,"endTime":1614.159,"body":"work, let's say having features"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1614.159,"endTime":1616.739,"body":"you want to implement, or"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1614.159,"endTime":1616.739,"body":"something like that, and the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1616.739,"endTime":1622.579,"body":"other part is some recurring"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1616.739,"endTime":1622.579,"body":"work that you cannot estimate"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1622.579,"endTime":1627.799,"body":"beforehand, for example, fixing"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1622.579,"endTime":1627.799,"body":"bugs or having to do maintenance"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1627.799,"endTime":1631.999,"body":"stuff, or some teams even have"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1627.799,"endTime":1631.999,"body":"to be on the support hotline and"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1631.999,"endTime":1638.119,"body":"do support calls. Then obviously"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1631.999,"endTime":1638.119,"body":"you cannot put that into the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1638.119,"endTime":1644.559,"body":"burndown. However, what you can"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1638.119,"endTime":1644.559,"body":"do is you can reserve some time"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1644.559,"endTime":1650.259,"body":"for that. So for example, you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1644.559,"endTime":1650.259,"body":"might know that 30% of your time"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1650.319,"endTime":1655.299,"body":"is used bug fixing or something"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1650.319,"endTime":1655.299,"body":"like that. And if you know that,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1655.899,"endTime":1660.779,"body":"then you can create placeholders"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1655.899,"endTime":1660.779,"body":"for that in your backlog. Now,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1661.199,"endTime":1666.719,"body":"if you are more in a rebel mood"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1661.199,"endTime":1666.719,"body":"today, what you could then do is"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1666.959,"endTime":1673.499,"body":"just ignore it, because it will"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1666.959,"endTime":1673.499,"body":"reflect in velocity. If only"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1674.039,"endTime":1678.479,"body":"what you manage to develop in"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1674.039,"endTime":1678.479,"body":"features in the complex world is"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1678.479,"endTime":1682.879,"body":"counted towards velocity, then"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1678.479,"endTime":1682.879,"body":"velocity will be smaller,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1682.879,"endTime":1686.299,"body":"because obviously the chunk"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1682.879,"endTime":1686.299,"body":"where you did the support part"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1686.479,"endTime":1690.319,"body":"is not in there, and then it"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1686.479,"endTime":1690.319,"body":"evens out, and your burn down is"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1690.319,"endTime":1694.639,"body":"correct again, because bugs are"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1690.319,"endTime":1694.639,"body":"not in velocity and they are not"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1694.639,"endTime":1699.859,"body":"in scope. But most people I know"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1694.639,"endTime":1699.859,"body":"try to work with some sort of"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1699.859,"endTime":1700.579,"body":"placeholders. So"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1700.58,"endTime":1705.7,"body":"okay, thank"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1700.58,"endTime":1705.7,"body":"you. Lindsay,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1705.939,"endTime":1708.279,"body":"if you think I"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1705.939,"endTime":1708.279,"body":"didn't explain something good"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1708.279,"endTime":1711.579,"body":"enough, please let me know."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1708.279,"endTime":1711.579,"body":"Okay, yeah, so"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1711.82,"endTime":1714.4,"body":"for me, that"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1711.82,"endTime":1714.4,"body":"was good enough. But audience,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1714.4,"endTime":1717.64,"body":"if you would like to dig further"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1714.4,"endTime":1717.64,"body":"in on any of the answers that"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1717.64,"endTime":1724.86,"body":"come in, please, please do any"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1717.64,"endTime":1724.86,"body":"follow ups in the chat so that I"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1724.86,"endTime":1737.76,"body":"can utilize those. Okay, right?"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1724.86,"endTime":1737.76,"body":"So this next question here, in"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1737.76,"endTime":1741.14,"body":"the case of multiple teams being"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1737.76,"endTime":1741.14,"body":"involved in a project using a"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1741.14,"endTime":1745.34,"body":"single backlog to drive"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1741.14,"endTime":1745.34,"body":"progress. The challenge with"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1745.34,"endTime":1750.2,"body":"story point sizing is every team"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":1745.34,"endTime":1750.2,"body":"sizes stories differently. 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About the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1773.379,"endTime":1780.899,"body":"estimation, I would not try to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1780.899,"endTime":1784.679,"body":"normalize velocities in any way."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1780.899,"endTime":1784.679,"body":"You, of course, can do that, but"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1784.679,"endTime":1788.579,"body":"that would mean all teams"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1784.679,"endTime":1788.579,"body":"develop the same stories over a"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1788.579,"endTime":1793.379,"body":"period of time, and you already"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1788.579,"endTime":1793.379,"body":"know in advance that this is a"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1793.379,"endTime":1797.759,"body":"complete waste of time. So you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1793.379,"endTime":1797.759,"body":"don't do that. 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So if you're just"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1909.299,"endTime":1913.259,"body":"listening to it, I'll try to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1909.299,"endTime":1913.259,"body":"describe what's on the picture."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1915.359,"endTime":1921.199,"body":"In that context, we had 36 teams"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1915.359,"endTime":1921.199,"body":"working from the same product"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1921.199,"endTime":1927.439,"body":"backlog. On this picture, you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1921.199,"endTime":1927.439,"body":"see a wall, and on that wall you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1927.439,"endTime":1933.199,"body":"see 18 of these teams. These"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":1927.439,"endTime":1933.199,"body":"were the software teams. 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And"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2971.22,"endTime":2974.4,"body":"then management comes around the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2974.4,"endTime":2976.74,"body":"corner and says, You're too"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2974.4,"endTime":2976.74,"body":"slow. You have to be quicker."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2977.16,"endTime":2980.22,"body":"That's what I understood. There."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2977.16,"endTime":2980.22,"body":"Would you agree there? Lindsay,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2981.0,"endTime":2981.5,"body":"yes,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2981.5,"endTime":2984.44,"body":"I would agree."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2981.5,"endTime":2984.44,"body":"All right, good advice there."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2985.52,"endTime":2989.24,"body":"Good so if we"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2985.52,"endTime":2989.24,"body":"did not understand it correctly,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2989.24,"endTime":2992.78,"body":"I'm sorry just to try to dive"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2989.24,"endTime":2992.78,"body":"into that."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2993.32,"endTime":2995.6,"body":"Yeah, and you"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2993.32,"endTime":2995.6,"body":"can always follow up with"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2995.6,"endTime":2998.0,"body":"Dominic after the session as"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":2995.6,"endTime":2998.0,"body":"well."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2998.36,"endTime":3002.88,"body":"Of course."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":2998.36,"endTime":3002.88,"body":"Yeah. 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So, David, if"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3167.74,"endTime":3170.56,"body":"you're in the chat anyway, um,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3167.74,"endTime":3170.56,"body":"does that answer your question?"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3172.24,"endTime":3173.2,"body":"Just yes or no?"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3175.36,"endTime":3177.94,"body":"Yes, perfect."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3175.36,"endTime":3177.94,"body":"It does. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3177.94,"endTime":3179.44,"body":"bring it on. Lindsay,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3177.94,"endTime":3179.44,"body":"next month."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3179.8,"endTime":3182.28,"body":"All right, so"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3179.8,"endTime":3182.28,"body":"we have time for a couple more,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3182.28,"endTime":3186.72,"body":"I think. 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For example, your"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3407.2,"endTime":3411.52,"body":"marketing department and your"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3407.2,"endTime":3411.52,"body":"marketing department doesn't"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3411.52,"endTime":3417.22,"body":"like daily new releases. What"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3411.52,"endTime":3417.22,"body":"they like is being able to tell"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3417.22,"endTime":3421.62,"body":"to the customer, hey, here's"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3417.22,"endTime":3421.62,"body":"something big coming up. Now you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3421.62,"endTime":3425.34,"body":"still can deliver that big chunk"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3421.62,"endTime":3425.34,"body":"of work with small, incremental"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3425.34,"endTime":3428.76,"body":"releases. That's exactly what we"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3425.34,"endTime":3428.76,"body":"want to do, but you have to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3428.76,"endTime":3433.68,"body":"allow other people, be it your"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3428.76,"endTime":3433.68,"body":"stakeholders or your users, to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3433.68,"endTime":3438.12,"body":"absorb that. And in many cases,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3433.68,"endTime":3438.12,"body":"the way to absorb it and the way"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3438.12,"endTime":3442.4,"body":"to communicate it is some sort"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3438.12,"endTime":3442.4,"body":"of roadmap. So even though you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3442.4,"endTime":3445.94,"body":"deliver continuously, you might"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3442.4,"endTime":3445.94,"body":"even deliver it continuously to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3446.0,"endTime":3450.08,"body":"the end user. Still, the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3446.0,"endTime":3450.08,"body":"communication and the management"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3450.08,"endTime":3453.98,"body":"from your internal stakeholders"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3450.08,"endTime":3453.98,"body":"will be in some sort of time"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3453.98,"endTime":3458.18,"body":"chunks. And these time chunks"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3453.98,"endTime":3458.18,"body":"could be product goals, sprint"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3458.18,"endTime":3463.3,"body":"goals, releases, so formal"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3458.18,"endTime":3463.3,"body":"releases that include some sort"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3463.3,"endTime":3466.72,"body":"of release notes and maybe a"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3463.3,"endTime":3466.72,"body":"bottle of champagne for the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3466.72,"endTime":3470.56,"body":"customer, even though, on the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3466.72,"endTime":3470.56,"body":"technical side, it was done in"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3470.56,"endTime":3472.24,"body":"incremental daily releases,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3475.12,"endTime":3479.08,"body":"right? Thank"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3475.12,"endTime":3479.08,"body":"you. All right, so we don't"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3479.08,"endTime":3483.42,"body":"really have time for any more"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3479.08,"endTime":3483.42,"body":"questions, but I will share we"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3483.48,"endTime":3487.5,"body":"have 25 remaining questions. We"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3483.48,"endTime":3487.5,"body":"had a lot come in, so I will"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3487.56,"endTime":3490.62,"body":"share those with you after the"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3487.56,"endTime":3490.62,"body":"session. Are there any pieces of"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3490.62,"endTime":3493.38,"body":"advice that you want to leave"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3490.62,"endTime":3493.38,"body":"the audience with? 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Please don't get hooked"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3515.06,"endTime":3520.36,"body":"up to some method no matter"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3520.36,"endTime":3523.72,"body":"which one and believe that"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3520.36,"endTime":3523.72,"body":"method will solve all your"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3523.72,"endTime":3529.24,"body":"problems, use your brain cells,"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3523.72,"endTime":3529.24,"body":"use common sense, and the second"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3529.3,"endTime":3535.72,"body":"one is always try in a"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3529.3,"endTime":3535.72,"body":"discussion with whoever. Try to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3535.72,"endTime":3540.1,"body":"walk in their shoes, try to"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3535.72,"endTime":3540.1,"body":"understand what their need is."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3540.52,"endTime":3543.3,"body":"So management is not evil or"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3540.52,"endTime":3543.3,"body":"something. They just have"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3543.36,"endTime":3546.36,"body":"different needs than you might"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3543.36,"endTime":3546.36,"body":"have, or other than the"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3546.36,"endTime":3550.2,"body":"developers might have. And if"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3546.36,"endTime":3550.2,"body":"you are successful in walking in"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3550.2,"endTime":3555.54,"body":"their shoes for a mile, then it"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3550.2,"endTime":3555.54,"body":"will be far easier for for you"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3555.6,"endTime":3559.08,"body":"to have the meaningful"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3555.6,"endTime":3559.08,"body":"conversations with people. So"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3559.14,"endTime":3563.6,"body":"use common sense and try to view"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3559.14,"endTime":3563.6,"body":"matters from their point of"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3563.6,"endTime":3564.62,"body":"view. Please,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3566.719,"endTime":3572.239,"body":"okay that that"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3566.719,"endTime":3572.239,"body":"makes perfect common sense. So"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3573.559,"endTime":3576.739,"body":"thank you everyone. So much for"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3573.559,"endTime":3576.739,"body":"attending. Like I said, we'll"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3576.739,"endTime":3580.779,"body":"figure out a way to address the"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3576.739,"endTime":3580.779,"body":"open questions and Dominic,"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3580.779,"endTime":3585.459,"body":"thank you so much for your"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3580.779,"endTime":3585.459,"body":"wisdom and for being here. It's"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3585.459,"endTime":3586.659,"body":"been really great."},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3587.259,"endTime":3588.039,"body":"It's my"},{"speaker":"Dominik Maximini","startTime":3587.259,"endTime":3588.039,"body":"pleasure."},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3588.04,"endTime":3591.94,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3588.04,"endTime":3591.94,"body":"thank you everybody and Scrum on"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3591.94,"endTime":3596.68,"body":"and have a great rest of your"},{"speaker":"Lindsay Velecina","startTime":3591.94,"endTime":3596.68,"body":"day. Take care. Bye, bye. You."}]}