PM 025: Mediums, Angels & Clowns

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We’ve all heard of angels but what do we really know about them? Some of us may be lucky enough to know or feel the presence of our own Guardian Angels but what about the other types of angels that exist – who are they and what do they do?  Psychic Medium and Angel Messenger, George Koury is on the show, to explain the depth and beauty of the angelic realm and the many ways in which angels can help us in our daily lives.

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Transcript

Hello everybody! My name is Ann Théato and welcome to the Psychic Matters Podcast – episode number 25.   

We’ve all heard of angels but what do we really know about them? Some of us may be lucky enough to know or feel the presence of our own Guardian Angels but what about the other types of angels that exist – who are they and what do they do?  Psychic Medium and Angel Messenger, George Koury is on the show, to explain the depth and beauty of the angelic realm and the many ways in which angels can help us in our daily lives.

George

I started out in my 20’s as a professional circus clown.  We would practice pantomime, acrobatics, walking a low wire, creating these improvised comedy sketches and then at the end of those weeks, we’d put on a giant show.  I also collect tarot.  I wont tell you how many decks I have. It’s 3 digits but a lot of 3 digits. There’s a lot of numbers in there.  My very first spiritual experience was at five years old with a visitation from what I know now, is my Guardian Angel.  The moon was full, it transformed into this being of light, came closer and closer and closer and then eventually, through the window, and stood at the foot of my bed.  There was an interchange, it might have lasted 10 minutes or so, but it was so profound that there was, just these feelings of encouragement, upliftment, and in one way or another I started this process of learning how to communicate with the Angelic Realm.

Ann

I’m very excited to be in the Psychic Matters studio today with George Koury.  George, welcome to Psychic Matters!

George

Hi Ann, thank you for having me on your show, I’m delighted to be here.

Ann

Well I tell you what, I'm really delighted that we've got this chunk of time together to sit and chat, because we go back a few years now, and I first met you, I don't know how many years ago, quite a few, at Tony Stockwell’s Soul Space in England, and you were so dedicated as a spiritual practitioner and spiritual tutor to your development, to be the best that you could be, that you used to fly over from your home in America to London, and then take a train out of London to Tony’s studio every single month, as far as I know, for two years.

George

That was two years,  well it's cheaper than therapy. I have very fond memories of that time.

Ann

Wasn't it ? And we got on like a house on fire, many laughs were had.  George tell people listening, who you are and what kind of work you do.

George

Oh gosh, well I am a psychic medium and I also call myself an Angel Messenger. I guess I have a few branches to this tree.  In terms of the psychic mediumship, I do private sessions, I do classes, I also will do large group events.  Currently online, but you know there several years ago I was travelling across the states here, doing what we call demonstrations or gallery's.  I love those, because I love being in front of people, face to face, and we would do small theatres, like about 350 to 500.  Sometimes I work alone, sometimes with others, I am also, one of the first things I started with was tarot, since I was 16 I started reading and I love to do tarot reading, psychic tarot, but I also teach tarot.

Ann

So how did that start?  How did you start at 16 with tarot?

George

I went to New York City one day on a train from Long Island or as we say, Long Island. It was a beautiful day, I was walking around an area in the 20s and all of a sudden the sky turned black and there was torrential downpour.  I was right in front of Samuel Weiser's Occult and Antiquarian Books and they had an awning, so I ran right under the awning, and looked in the window and said, wow this looks really interesting.  So I went in, I spent several hours there.  They had these massive oak bookshelves with these antique books and I was like a kid in a candy store and then in the very back, it was a giant bookshelf, with a lot of these tarot decks, and then there was a binder with some plastic insert pages where you could look at samples of the cards.  I had never seen anything like this before, so I just, they probably couldn't get rid of me.  I purchased two decks brought them home, I read the little white book that came with them, could not understand them, so I just set those aside and I started reading, really badly for people, probably for a year or two, and then I started just, I don't know what happened, I got the hang of it and I met a well-known tarot deck designer and author, and she said, if you want to get really great on this, do 100 readings or 200 readings for free.  And that's what I did and I’ve been reading ever since.

Ann

Out of interest, what were those two first packs that drew your eye?

George

Well one was the standard Waite Smith or Rider Waite Smith and the other was the JJ Swiss it's more of a Mar… or I know that you know the tarot, but if your listeners are not familiar, it’s more of a Marseille style deck, yes, I believe it's out of print now, but I still have it and I love it. I still go back to reading it. I won't tell you how many, I also collect Tarot. I won't tell you how many decks I have.

Ann

Give us an idea.

George

Well it's it's 3 digits.

Ann

Wow.

George

But a lot of three digits.  There is a lot of numbers in there.

Ann

Where do you keep them all?

George

In an undisclosed location. I actually have a bookshelf that I got from IKEA, and this thing is larger than the room itself, and I have them very neatly organised, according to category, you know, subject matter, and the artist style.

Ann

And have you read with every pack?

George

Yes, you know I have a private Facebook group for my Tarot students and I attempt to do a live reading every week, and so you know, to look at the same deck for other people, I imagine for 52 weeks, is going to be kind of boring, so I like to switch it up, so you know depending upon the season, there might be some that are related to seasons or have different artistic themes.  I'll kind of change it up every, every week.  So the answer is yes, I actually have.

Ann

Wow, amazing.

George

Yeah and I love it.  I've also taught at Omega Institute here in New York with two, there are two luminaries, I called them the mothers, the grandmothers of tarot, Rachel Pollack and Mary Greer.  They are well known authors and they’ve written just a tonne of books, so I had the honour of teaching with them at Omega at a conference, it’s just great fun.  The Tarot community, they’re non-competitive, they’re very kind and loving and supportive and so it's really just great fun.

Ann

How wonderful.  So how did you get involved with those two ladies?

George

Well I live not far from Omega and this is an interesting area. I mean, I know that you know the history of spiritualism, but this entire area, the Hudson Valley, a little bit further South, a little bit further North, is really where spiritualism began, and the Fox sisters lived way up in upstate New York, but just across the River in Poughkeepsie, it’s the birthplace of Andrew Jackson Davis and this is just, I don't know, I think it's the drinking water, that's my theory, but there are a lot of psychics, mediums, who live and who have grown up in this area, and there's something very special about it.  So I live not far from Rachel Pollack and I met her many years ago.  I had seen her on video, I read her books, I was a great admirer of hers, and I saw some pictures of her, so I knew what she looked like, and one day she was coming out of a health food store with two bags of groceries and I accosted her.  I ran up to her face to face, are you Rachel Pollock?  And she, was actually pressed up against a car, I'm sure she thought I was going to attack her, She was trembling, saying yes I am.  I could hear thinking, don't hurt me, please don't hurt me!  So we became great friends after that, and she and Mary Greer are just really delightful human beings.  And brilliant.  I hope I can come close to that one of these days. 

Ann

If you had a top tip for people listening about reading tarot, ‘coz people get confused don't they?  There's so many different meanings to the cards, there's so many different packs, as you have as you know, they also have different meanings, so can you give anybody any tips on how to…

George

First is, unwrap the deck. Second is, there's usually a little booklet called little white book that comes with it.  Now some of them in recent creations are really wonderful, but night I would say 98% of them you can throw them in the trash.  They’re rehashes and they won't make any sense and would I encourage my student I get my students up and reading within the 1st 10 to 15 minutes of the class, I say take a card, any card, look at it, pretend you are a 3 year old toddler and you're looking at a picture story book.  Step into the picture and ask is okay how does this make me feel what's going on what's the story and how does it make me feel, and you will doing that extract the meaning that is not only correct for that situation or that reading but very, very applicable towards the essence of that card, that image.

Ann

Thank you for that, that's, that's a really good tip for people.  So tell us then you got your first pack of tarot at 16, you started reading the cards and getting to know about your own intuition I suppose, then what happened?

George

Well actually my very first spiritual experience was at five years old with a visitation from what I know now is my Guardian Angel.  So that was my very first experience of any kind.  It was a time when my parents were arguing, there was a lot of financial problems, I know now, in retrospect around the house.  So as a kid, I spent a lot of time retreating into my room, and I imagine that what I was doing back then, was my version of meditating which was very simple and crude. I went to bed, when I was about to go to bed, and I saw this, the moon was full, it transformed into this being of light, came closer and closer and closer and then eventually, through the window, and stood at the foot of my bed.  And when it was happening, I was freaked out. I didn't know whether I was going to die or what was going on, but there was an interchange might have lasted 10 minutes or so, but it was so profound that there was, just these feelings of encouragement, upliftment, peace, joy, and happiness and that experience has stayed with me to this day, and in one way or another, I started this process of learning how to communicate with the angelic realm.  So the tarot did not come for me until I was 16 but in between those two, as I started to just experience the presence of Angels and getting comfortable with that, my paternal grandmother died, and I had an experience of her coming to me. I was at school when this happened, and I came home and my parents were there.  They were both crying but I knew what had happened, so that, that was the doorway for me of mediumship opening up, and so, sorry, to answer your question the tarot came last.

Ann

And did you tell your parents about this angelic experience at five?

George

No. My maternal grandmother was a medium, a working medium, you know, this is going back a long, long time ago, very different than it is now, and my parents were very Catholic. So it was forbidden, even if the subject was broached, the door was shut right away, particularly by my father, so I learned, I learned early on, to hush up about that, although I talked freely to the nuns in Catholic school when I was growing up and got into lots of trouble.  Young man you’re in league with the devil, you're going to amount to no good and you're going straight to hell!  Yes sister, thank you sister!

Ann

Oh dear, did that not frighten you as a child when they would say things like that?

George

As a kid yes, but you know, I developed a bit of a thick skin towards that because I went, I went to Catholic grade school for, you know, the whole stretch, I hated it, absolutely hated it, but I got a good education, that’s one thing and I also learned to torture them back a little bit.

Ann

Those poor nuns.

George

You'll have to wait for the book to come out, to find out about that.  

Ann

So, so how did your communications with the angelic realm progress then?

George

You know, it was always more of a private conversation, just sitting quietly and feeling the presences of these different beings, because they all are different. I mean I know now that each of them, the higher orders of Angels have a superpower.  Many people know Archangel Michael who's said to protect us in many, many ways, Raphael is the Arch Angel of healing.  So I got to feel the presence of these, how each one was different, and I, I started to ask them for help with, you know, things I needed genuine help, with problems. I didn't, I wasn't frivolous about it and I certainly didn't use them like an ATM machine you know, every day, but when there was something serious, I would go to them and I always found that I received messages and guidance about that.  And as I started to progress, then I started to work with other people, to introduce them to this concept.  You know, it's strange, it's weird, to the general public it can be really weird, so I don't I don't feel it's for everybody, but the over, the strongest message that they've given me is that they can make our path lighter and easier.  It doesn't in anyway free us from personal responsibility, we have to assume full responsibility for our life or decisions or actions but if we can employ them if you will, to work with us, I feel that they can, they can make many things much easier.

Ann

And when you say you receive messages and guidance, how?

George

Well you know, this brings us to the subject of the different intuitive channels that we receive messages.  I tend to be, in terms of them, clairaudient, so I will hear messages in my inner ear. I will also get some images and I'm usually able to unravel those and unwrap them very quickly.  And as you know, everybody is different, we all receive intuitive hits in different ways.  Some people are strongly clairvoyant, others have these strong gut level senses, clairsentience, and they just know something is there, that would be claircognisance but it's a combination for me.

Ann

So, if people at home are, I know you're going to speak a lot more about the Angels as we go through this chat together ,but if people are wanting to send messages out to the Angels around them, how can they, what are they to look out for, in terms of receiving the guidance back?

George

I would say the first step is, we have to invite their help. I've experienced that they are aware of our situation, they can send us in a generalised way, healing and prayers but beyond that, I don't believe that they can get involved.  We need to invite them and ask their permission.  So, at the beginning of the day, what I say is, welcome Angels, if I have like a day of readings, welcome Angels and thank you for being with me and guiding me through these sessions or if I just have a day off, I'm doing other things, I will say, welcome Angels thank you for walking with me today.   Just you know a very general welcome, and then presenting an issue, it’s just calling out from your heart and mind and saying, you know, I talk to them very frankly, I'm not religious or formal. I say alright, this is what's going on, it's making me crazy, this is what I'd like to see happen in its place. I end by saying thank you and I love you and then I wait, ‘coz I, I am trusting that they are doing their part and I will, I wait to receive messages. And that may come as a lyric on a radio, which sparks an intuition saying ah, that's what I should be doing. You might overhear a conversation from strangers in which somebody says something that strikes something in that says, oh, I should do this.  You might stumble on a book or see some other resource, and I trained myself to know to act on those impulses right away.  And I've never been led off the path, quite the contrary. The promise that they have made, which I've seen in all of the people that I've worked with, students and clients, is that they will always make one’s path easier, with the least amount of suffering and they will not ever let anyone down, as long as they're not asking for something that's really stupid, like something that is going to hurt them or somebody else. I've seen that come through all the time.  Now I know a lot of people consider this really flaky and ungrounded but they say well there's no way to prove the existence of Angels but what I like to point out to people, is that going back for centuries, if you look at every ancient culture on the earth, regardless of where they are, there are depictions of winged beings, and this is before we had mass forms of communication, and I really believe that what those artists were doing, were putting into some form, cave painting, a carving, one of the Renaissance pieces of art, I believe that they were depicting what they had as a genuine mystical experience.  They were depicting the beings that they experienced in the best way that they could.

Ann

Yeah that's beautiful. I know that I sometimes call upon the parking Angels when I'm looking for a parking spot and I know that the car park is going to be full. I'll send ahead and I will ask the Angels please send me a parking space and every single time I have a parking space.  And it’s become, yeah it's become, it works so well now, that I can envisage in my mind exactly where it will be within the car park, or on the street, I will know there will be three cars in front and two behind and I'll be in the middle, it's fascinating.

George

That is pretty wild, you know you could offer a service, you know, you could be like the new Uber or Lyft you can, you can offer to drive around with people and get them a space.

Ann

Yes call upon the Angels, but tell us just before we move off the topic of Angels, you talked a little bit about there's a hierarchy.  Can you say more about that, coz I've heard of Ascended Masters and things like this, perhaps you could give a little more explanation for us?

George

Yes, so that the low down is, again and this is my own experience I'm not asking but anybody to take this on faith, but you know, check it out for yourself, I experience the angelic realm as an entity unto itself.  In other words, I don't believe that people become Angels or Angels become people, I just that's not been my experience.  I know in the Bible, in the Torah, the Metatron and Sendafon ascended from earth to the heavens to become, to transform from human beings into Angels. I don't, I don't really buy that in terms of the hierarchy, it depends upon where you look.  In Judaism there is a whole cataloguing of the angelic realm and then in Christianity in the early church, there were several scholars who could have delineated these orders and groups of Angels, but if, you everyone that you read will be different.  So I really, well I have read them all, but I, I tend to rely on my own experience.  So Guardian Angels are the ones closest to earth.  In my experience these are Angels that are assigned to us when a soul first comes into creation.  They are solely there to work with and for us.  No one else, I believe that they know our purpose sometimes better than we do.  They have no greater joy than to help us really live a life of fulfilment and happiness.  Next strata up are the archangels, and you know, Michael, Raphael, Oreo who was there to light shine the light on the path when we don't know where we are headed.  And for your listeners who are mediums, I believe that of communication and then for your listeners who are mediums, as I believe that Azrael is unfairly called the Angel of death but I believe that Azrael helps people to make their transition to the other side, but also assists in spirit communication, as does Gabriel, so I asked the two of them just to help me out when I'm working.  So from the archangels we go up, the highest order of Angels, I won't go through the whose list, the highest order of Angels are the seraphim, if you are able to see clairvoyantly they will always appear with six wings, and they sit by the throne of the godhead, and they are the most powerful Angels.  Next down are the cherubim and the cherub's are often depicted in Victorian art as cute little chubby babies with wings.  That's not been my experience, first time I saw one I wanted to run and hide and wet my pants because they're tall and very fierce looking, so I don't know how they became these little cute little babies but something happened along the way.  May be used to sell Valentine cards and candies.

Ann

Gosh, George this is fascinating and I know that you have a free event that happens every month which is Calling All Angels, do you want to say a little about that?

George

Yes it's been going on for six years now, we have people who tune in literally from around the world, almost every country I think, at last count it was 190 countries. I believe there's 192 countries on the earth, not exactly sure, but this is a free event, it's under an hour and the purpose is to gather together to form this circle of energy and we experience the blessing of the Angels, healing from the Angels and that energy is available to everybody on the call and their loved ones.  If you can't make it for the live event, I normally rebroadcast the call for 48/72 hours after, and the potency or effectiveness is still valid, whether you're listening live or in re broadcast, and it's very powerful. So if folks are interested, you just head over to my website which is www.spiritlovesyou.com, & sign up for my newsletter and each month I send out the link for the event. I have so, so many emails and messages from people from around the world who have experienced all kinds of financial breakthroughs, healing, really healing miracles, like reversals of impossible situations, healing in relationships, so it's, it's a, it's a really wonderful , wonderful experience.

Ann

Yeah that's beautiful George, thank you for sharing that.  And you also, I know you do two types of readings on your website, one is Angel Soul Readings, can you say little about how that works?

George

Basically I, I like to share with people a palpable experience of their Guardian Angel team, so they really know what it feels like. I teach them how to do it.  It’s very simple, it just takes a few minutes, and then we connect with the Angels, and we connect into the person’s purpose, their level of happiness, any blocks or obstacles to that, and it's really meant to empower people.  I always stress the personal responsibility but adding on this team from the invisible realm that can be a great help.  And then the other is psychic tarot, and that deals with more mundane things, day to day issues, like when should I move house, am I going to get the job interview, or what do we need to know about that, that sort of thing. I do also offer mediumship readings, but I have a limited number of those that I do in a year so you just have to check back to the site to see when they're available.

Ann

That's wonderful George.  So you mentioned mediumship there, so that segways us nicely into how did you move from tarot and Angels into your mediumship development.

George

You know,  I would say that my experience of the Angels and then opening up to mediumship happened very closely to each other, so that they have kind of gone kind of neck and neck if you will, in terms of the mediumship, my first experience was with, as I told you, the death of my maternal grandmother, and then in Catholic school, grade school, I was just bored out of my mind there, and we would have what's called here in the states of homeroom teacher. 90% of the time it was a nun or sister and as I was sitting there daydreaming, their departed relatives would come through, and I didn't know, I just presumed that everybody could do this and experience this, so I was so excited, I would shout out messages to the sisters, from their departed loved ones.  You know each time I would be smacked or dragged by my ear and my collar down to the Principal’s office, so I spent a lot of time in the hallway going back and forth.

Ann

Oh that's so sad!

George

Yeah, well when I started out, you know in my little kids brow, saying what the hell, what's going on here, but I finally, I soon learned the art of when to keep my mouth shut. 

Ann

Yes.

George

And it's a good skill to have, when to talk and when not to talk.  And so yeah, it's, it's you know, as you well know, it continues to evolve, and change and grow and it's, it's a wonderful adventure.

Ann

Wonderful.  Tell me a little bit more about your life in terms of how you paid the rent, how you paid your bills, the types of jobs that you've done outside of mediumship.

George

Well, I started out in my 20s as a professional circus clown. I worked with circuses and initially Ringling Brothers, I wasn't with them for a long time but I went with smaller circuses and travelled for 20 years across the country back and forth. The only places I did not go to were Alaska and Hawaii ,everywhere else pretty much.

Ann

So how did you run off to the circus, how does that work?  I've always wanted to run off and join the circus!

George

It's never too late, Ann. I can, I can introduce you, I know people, I can connect you, for a modest commission I can connect you.  I went to college on Long Island, hostel University and I was in the Theatre Department, I wanted to be an actor and this I, I saw this advert in one of the New York city papers that they were having auditions for clowns, and I thought is this a joke or is this real, but it was real.  I went to the interview, the way I got hooked on the circus, is when I was a kid growing up in Brooklyn, this is before social media or electronic communication, a long time ago.  When the circus was coming to town, promoters would come to cities and towns to small shop owners, and they would put a poster for the circus that was coming in a week or two to town, in the shop owner’s window and in exchange the shop owner would get a handful of tickets.  So my uncle and aunt had a tailor shop in Brooklyn, and every year since I was a little one, we would go to the circus. I think I was maybe seven or eight, I don't remember exactly when I went to the first one, Madison Square Garden, and we sat and really we had really great seats, and I remember watching one of the acts, and I got up and I started to walk down the steps toward the rings and my aunt said to me, where are you going? and I said some version of I'm going home with them, and she said Oh no you're not, come here! and she grabbed me back to the seat but that's I think when I made the decision that I wanted to do, wanted to be part of this.

Ann

Wow, that's amazing that you had, that it moved you so much.

George

So I auditioned, I think they had that year they interviewed 2500 people across the country they narrowed it down to 22 or 25 again, I don't remember, it was a long time ago but those the 22, it was actually 22 of us, we got an entree into the famous Ringling brothers Clown College which was in Venice FLorida at the time, and we were there for several weeks, and every, from sun up to sundown, we would practise pantomime, acrobatics, walking a low wire, juggling which I was really horrible at, anything that you can imagine, costume-making, make-up, creating these improvised comedy sketches and then at the end of those weeks we put on a giant show. The locals were invited and also the owners of the circus and of that group, they picked, no wait a minute it was actually more than 22, it was way more than that, I think they narrowed it down to 22 and Ringling at that time had two different units, half of us I believe went to one unit and half to another.  And that was the beginning, great fun, I am still friends with all of my buddies from the circus, they're just, it's you know it's a happy lifestyle, really happy lifestyle, it's hard work, really hard work, but I'm still in touch with all of them and they are just wonderful people.

Ann

Gosh that's incredible, and how long did you spend that with the circus?

George

20 years.

Ann

Yeah 20 years, that is such a long time.

George

Not with one circus I did a number of things, I went with, I was with Ringling for two years, two seasons, then I went out with a friend, Carl Bertolino, who, who with his family were promoters of shows, and they, they did a thing which is popular here in the States, it's a circus that goes to a town, let's say Thursday or Friday through Sunday, and they play small college gymnasiums, or high school gymnasiums, so you packed the house, it’s very low overhead in terms of insurance and things like that, and we do, just a whole circuit of towns, and then I also put together a one person show. I played the ukulele, I did songs from Vaudeville, I did some ventriloquism, I played a bunch of characters, and that was great fun.

Ann

Why did you leave all that behind, it sounds great fun, you were surrounded by beautiful people, having a wonderful time.

George

To save my back.  When I, when I eventually went from the circuses to doing my own show, I’d do like music theatre festivals, corporate events, I had three 50 pound trunks, I had a curtain, lighting, sound equipment, and then the props, and the costume changes and by the time I set up the show, I was ready for a nap, you know to go sleep ,so physically it's incredibly demanding, and you know at the end of it, I just I felt really full and satisfied. I did what I set out to do. I, I knew during all of this time that I wanted to pursue the path of mediumship, that, that was never out of the picture.

Ann

Had that ticked along underneath the clowning and the circus skills then?

George

Absolutely, you know you, one of the great things is, you know we would play crowds of 5000 and you learn to go out there and even if you feel like you want to poop your pants you don't show it, you absolutely don't show it. So that, that was a skill I also, yeah, I learned how to deal with unexpected or emergency situations, and so I'm very grateful for those but during that time I was reading the tarot for a lot of my circus comrades, and also doing some, you know, some mediumship.  I wasn't charging money for it at that point.

Ann

And so how did you come to settle in the area in which you live now, if you did so much travelling how did you decide, you know what, I want to go and live in the Hudson Valley.

George

Well, I at the time I was living in Long Island and I just got these, I would have these dreams to move up North, and I, I’m just not moving up North, I don't know, it's like, we're in the sticks here, I don't want to, it’s primitive I don't want to go there, I want to be around people, but as an experiment, one weekend I went up, I have a friend in this area, and he's who was a realtor, and he started taking me around.  The 1st house that I looked at, the house that I'm in now, I fell in love with, and I put a deposit on it, and I've been here now for 35 years, I think.

Ann

Gosh.

George

Yeah, it's a beautiful area, really beautiful, lots of creative, wild, wonderful people.  There is film-making here, theatre, music, a lot of spiritual activity, so it's, it's a great place. 

Ann

You've still got that travel in your blood though haven't you, cause I know that you do a lot of travel with your work.

George

Definitely gypsy blood, absolutely.

Ann

Yeah you're doing theatre tours, well I know that theatres are closed here in the UK, and probably over in America but you were doing a lot of Theatre tours weren't you?

George

Well Theatre tours, to do small theatres, to do mediumship presentations, demonstrations and gallery's.

Ann

Yes.

George

There are a lot of old, across the states there are a lot of old vaudeville theatres here, that were built for the time so  these are not the palaces.  These are places that seat anything from 3-500 people and those are the venues where I would work.

Ann

And did your parents know, I know it is difficult, they were Catholic parents ,and it was difficult to talk to them about the spiritual side of your life, in the way that your spirituality unfolded.  Did they, were they proud of you, as a psychic medium?  Did they know about that part of your work? 

George

Both my mother and father passed when I was very young, so I was out on my own.

Ann

Oh I'm so sorry.

George

So I was out on my own, you know. I, think that my mother and her sisters were highly intuitive but terrified of it.  One, one of the sisters actually I was able to talk to and of course my maternal grandmother, so I did have that support but around the house with mom and dad? Don't go there!

Ann

Yea I know the feeling, don't go there, your life is not worth it!  So what aspect of your development, your spiritual development, I mean we are all developing, we continue to develop mediumship, our spirituality it continues to evolve every day that we're on the earth, so where do your interests particularly lie at the moment, at this current time?

George

Great question.  You know, most people who go on to do this work professionally, will have some kind of calling or something that they come into the life with, at least that's been my observation, but then they will go on to study with a mentor or tutor, somebody who is, knows the ropes, who has experience, and help can help refine that gift, and I've done that, I know that you've done that, and have had the good fortune ,well I, that's how I met you and I'm, I'm thrilled because I've met so many wonderful people, and of course the tutors, then mentors I adore, just have great love and affection and respect for them, but I've found that I'm at a point now, where I’m really spending a lot of time in silence and currently I go to more of the, the realm of the spirit guides, master teachers, and I just sit quietly.  Sometimes I have an intention, you know I'd like to know about this, and that, but mostly I just sit with an open mind and heart, with the intent of experiencing them on a deeper level and also learning from them, and I keep journals, I make notes ,and I've gotten, I've got some really wonderful ideas and some great guidance, so it's an ongoing journey. I can't say, you know, where I am along the path, but it's, it's, it's fun and it's exciting.

Ann

Beautiful, really beautiful, and so George you said that you were going to, before we started recording this interview, you said that you would offer an exercise for people listening, that they can do at home.

George

Well the exercise, I actually already shared previously, but which is, again just to quickly recap: call out from your heart and mind; invite the Angels welcome them to come work with you; and then ask for something that you really need help with; and you can get your frustration and anger out, but then say this is what I'd like to see happen, thank you and I love you, and you end with that and wait to receive messages as to the steps you need to take, to bring about your desired goal, and that's the most important part, for us to do our part.  Actually what I was speaking of was maybe to do a short Angelic blessing if that's okay?

Ann

That would be wonderful, I'm sure everybody would love that.

George

In my experience the, this process involves a number of things, it involves healing energy, so for your listeners, regardless of when you're listening to this, the effectiveness never diminishes, because the Angelic Realm operates out of what we know as time and space.  So there is healing energy there, there can also be guidance and they are great at helping to steer us toward our purpose and to be truly happy, so I'm going to take, as I'm talking I'd like it if you're listening here and you're receptive to this, I'm going to take about 30 seconds in silence, so during that time don't think that I've gone to sleep, please do not go on to Amazon and make purchases or eBay to bet on an object, I'm going to be here during 30 seconds and sending you this wonderful angelic blast of energy.  So, if you are a driving a vehicle, please pull over ,or if you're operating heavy machinery please stop, and if you can close your eyes.  If you are driving or operating machinery please do not close your eyes, I don't want to get any emails from anybody, so just take a few moments now, to take a few breaths in and out and allow yourself to become fully present in this moment.  Let go of the past, let go of any thoughts and concerns about the future, to be here in the current present, and join me from your hearts and minds as I say, welcome Angels and we thank you for giving a blessing in whatever form is needed to each and every person who is listening to this.  So you don't need to know how to fix a particular problem, when it's going to happen, just sit in the space of silence now, we're going to sit for just 30 seconds and I will call us back …

Okay, that’s beautiful thank you.  So, just take a breath in, let it go. And the one thing I can tell you from my experience with this, is that this energy, as it is set up is ongoing, it unfolds into time and space.  So if you have any interesting dreams, if you notice any interesting release or healing, please make note of it and just send out a message of appreciation to the Angels, this process can last for weeks and even months, so just be a good observer and I hope you'll get some wonderful benefit from it.

Ann

George that was beautiful, thank you so much for sharing that with everybody.

George

Thank you for allowing me to do it.

Ann

That was lovely. And so you are this beautiful and very respected tarot teacher, have you got some tarot courses coming up that people can come & sign up for or what have you what have you got planned in terms of courses and classes and workshops for 2021?

George

It's interesting that you ask. I am converting, as many of us are, to an online teaching platform, and I've discovered that even though I'm pretty tech savvy, the process of converting just one course over, is taking an inordinate amount of time, so I have my first course mounted, it's called The Angels Of Prosperity and if you go to my site, you'll see access there.  There is a whole page devoted to it, and again my site is www.spiritlovesyou.com  I also have many free resources there, free downloads in terms of audios and PDFs. There's one on a powerful healing mantra, a powerful prosperity mantra that goes back to ancient India, a forgiveness prayer and some other great stuff and I'm always going to be adding to that.  My next series of courses will be on the tarot, this is just a massive undertaking, there's going to be videos and audios and PDF, so I am, I am currently writing the course, so it will be online friendly, and I expect just into the next few months, it will be up and running, and I'll be adding those throughout the, you know the coming years I'm sure, on different, on different topics, mediumship, tarot, working with Angels the whole 9 yards.

Ann

Brilliant, that's fabulous and when they are ready to go and ready for, for being on sale, do let us know and we will put it on the Psychic Matters Facebook Group Pages for people to book.

George

Oh beautiful thank you so much Ann, it's just been a gas talking to you.

Ann

George it is always lovely to see you and I just adore your company and you're just such an inspiration to be around.  Thank you very, very much for coming on the show to talk to everyone, that's so nice, George Koury thank you.

Well, that was Psychic Medium and Angel Messenger, George Koury.  What a fantastic guy – doing some incredible work out there in the world.  If you are interested in George’s work, I highly recommend that you follow him, not in person, that would just be weird -  but on his social media platforms and do please sign up to his Newsletter so that you can receive details of his incredible training courses, 1:1 sittings and his tarot classes plus his wonderful free event, Calling All Angels which takes place every month.  Make friends with the angels and watch your 2021 blossom!

All resources for this episode, including a full transcript and plus importantly, how to reach George, are over on my website under podcasts, so do  head over there and you can pick everything up on the show notes. www.anntheato.com.  Have a little explore while you are over there, I have some wonderful meditations that you might enjoy.

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Thank you again to my wonderful guest this week, George Koury, and to all of you out there who are listening. Have a fantastic couple of weeks everybody, stay as buoyant as possible and until next time… my name is Ann Théato and thank you for listening to PSYCHIC MATTERS!