{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":0.11,"endTime":1.89,"body":"Do you have trouble sleeping?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1.91,"endTime":5.27,"body":"Difficulty getting to sleep or staying asleep?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":5.3,"endTime":10.64,"body":"Do you think it could have anything to do with how much we're exposed to natural light"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":10.64,"endTime":11.69,"body":"during the day?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":11.9,"endTime":15.47,"body":"Hello again and welcome to the Live Long and Master Aging podcast."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":15.47,"endTime":21.08,"body":"I'm Peter Bowes. This is where we explore the science and stories behind human longevity."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":21.29,"endTime":22.85,"body":"I'm joined again by Dr."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":22.85,"endTime":23.9,"body":"Zulia Frost. Dr."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":23.9,"endTime":28.64,"body":"Frost is a medical doctor and the clinical director and one of the co-founders at"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":28.64,"endTime":34.64,"body":"Recharge Health Creators of a targeted red light device known as FlexBeam."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":34.67,"endTime":40.04,"body":"This is the second in our four part series looking at the technology and how it could"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":40.04,"endTime":42.17,"body":"help us. So sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":42.17,"endTime":46.85,"body":"Millions of people around the world suffer from sleep disorders to some extent."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":46.85,"endTime":50.36,"body":"For some of us, it's just the occasional inability to sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":50.36,"endTime":53.52,"body":"But for others, it is a chronic disorder."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":53.54,"endTime":55.07,"body":"What are the main causes?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":55.07,"endTime":57.26,"body":"What happens when we don't sleep?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":57.35,"endTime":61.62,"body":"Dr. Frost, welcome again to the Live Long and Master Aging podcast."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":62.04,"endTime":63.72,"body":"Thank you so much, Peter."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":63.75,"endTime":70.95,"body":"I'm excited to share with all my knowledge and possibly help your listeners to address"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":70.95,"endTime":72.06,"body":"their issues."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":72.57,"endTime":81.42,"body":"Well, sleep topic is a really big one because to me, sleep or inability to sleep normally"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":81.42,"endTime":85.14,"body":"it's a problem on so many levels."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":85.14,"endTime":93.69,"body":"It's a problem of expression of overly, overly working your sympathetic system."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":93.69,"endTime":97.26,"body":"So let me just explain a little bit that concept."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":97.26,"endTime":99.81,"body":"So we have in the body two systems."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":99.81,"endTime":105.18,"body":"We have autonomic nervous system consist of sympathetic or system of the day."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":105.18,"endTime":113.19,"body":"When you get up, you go, you work and there is a system parasympathetic where you relax,"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":113.22,"endTime":118.57,"body":"sleep, digest, and relax."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":118.81,"endTime":124.51,"body":"So because these two systems are supposed to work together as one."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":124.72,"endTime":130.54,"body":"However, when we go through the stressful period of time in our lives, what is happening?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":130.54,"endTime":136.3,"body":"The sympathetic system starts working day and night and people don't switch into"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":136.3,"endTime":144.67,"body":"relaxation. And this can happen with not just stress because of work or stress may be at"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":144.67,"endTime":148.73,"body":"home. It could be an expression of a variety of diseases."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":148.75,"endTime":150.49,"body":"People just can't sleep."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":151.22,"endTime":153.8,"body":"So of course it's accumulative."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":153.83,"endTime":159.89,"body":"So the more you don't sleep, the more tired dysfunctional you are, the more aged you are."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":159.89,"endTime":167.42,"body":"Because scientists now talking that sleep is actually make you look and feel older."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":167.87,"endTime":169.52,"body":"And so if you."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":169.73,"endTime":173.31,"body":"So sleep is paramount for our health."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":173.33,"endTime":176.64,"body":"I personally cannot function if I don't do eight hours of sleep."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":176.66,"endTime":179.72,"body":"I feel really like not altogether."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":179.72,"endTime":182.42,"body":"My mental ability is not sharp."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":182.93,"endTime":189.71,"body":"I feel sluggish and quite unhappy and dissatisfied, so I am sure people can relate to"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":189.74,"endTime":190.04,"body":"that."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":190.93,"endTime":192.52,"body":"Oh, yeah. I frame it like this."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":192.52,"endTime":195.79,"body":"I often say that sleep is the most important factor."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":195.79,"endTime":200.11,"body":"I will put it at number one in terms of those interventions, in terms of those things"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":200.11,"endTime":204.84,"body":"that we really need to get right to, to live a good, healthy life."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":204.85,"endTime":209.17,"body":"The other factors, of course, being our diet, our exercise regime."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":209.17,"endTime":214.99,"body":"But if we don't get sleep right, well, there's a huge tendency not to eat a good diet."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":215.02,"endTime":216.43,"body":"If we don't get our sleep right."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":216.43,"endTime":222.4,"body":"There's less energy and less enthusiasm to take part in any kind of exercise regime."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":222.4,"endTime":227.05,"body":"So in other words, everything else is affected by our lack of sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":227.05,"endTime":231.43,"body":"And that leaves aside, of course, just the the daily impact of not sleeping well, the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":231.43,"endTime":236.83,"body":"inability to focus and to work properly to to do the daily chores, to look after"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":236.83,"endTime":242.38,"body":"children, to to focus on work intellectually, to do what we need to do."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":242.38,"endTime":248.53,"body":"So for me, sleep is is absolutely paramount for those and many other reasons."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":249.37,"endTime":255.35,"body":"Yes, I can only agree more besides, you know, when you're not you're not sleeping well."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":255.35,"endTime":257.21,"body":"You make mistakes at work."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":257.3,"endTime":259.73,"body":"And then what if you're a pilot?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":259.76,"endTime":262.49,"body":"What if you're, you know, a driver?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":262.49,"endTime":266.18,"body":"So you could easily can get yourself in a car crash."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":266.18,"endTime":269.93,"body":"And so, yes, the importance of sleep is undeniable."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":269.93,"endTime":272.54,"body":"So we need to address that."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":272.87,"endTime":278.75,"body":"And why do you think it seems to be getting worse for us as as technology advances?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":278.75,"endTime":285.29,"body":"And maybe that is part of the reason that we surround ourselves by technology devices,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":285.29,"endTime":290.48,"body":"phones, smart watches, screens everywhere we look."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":290.51,"endTime":294.83,"body":"Is that part of the reason, do you think, why we are not sleeping as well?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":294.86,"endTime":298.82,"body":"Our dependance on technology for certain parts of our lives?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":299.69,"endTime":302.27,"body":"Peter, you just touched my favorite subject."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":303.02,"endTime":309.89,"body":"Why? Because I see particularly younger generation who embrace this technology, I"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":309.89,"endTime":316.63,"body":"actually get a lot more ill people in their sort of mid 20s compared to people in mid"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":316.63,"endTime":319.6,"body":"70s. Believe me or not, that is remarkable."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":319.6,"endTime":326.47,"body":"And I suspect technology something to do with this, particularly with using the screens"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":326.47,"endTime":330.94,"body":"because screens emit blue light and blue light."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":330.97,"endTime":333.28,"body":"It's it's like wake up for the brain."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":333.28,"endTime":335.8,"body":"Remember the white bright blue lights."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":335.83,"endTime":338.8,"body":"It happened during the full day time."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":338.8,"endTime":344.02,"body":"And that's where you sharp, very attentive and and more focused."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":344.02,"endTime":349.24,"body":"And then red lights happens in the morning or red light happens in the evening."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":349.24,"endTime":355.36,"body":"So because of this, our brain is really, really stimulated, really focused."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":355.36,"endTime":359.83,"body":"And of course, we have screens everywhere on the mobile phone, on computer, on TV, on the"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":359.83,"endTime":362.56,"body":"watch. This is one aspect."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":362.56,"endTime":370.15,"body":"The second aspect is the each gadget emits electromagnetic dirty radiation."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":370.18,"endTime":373.37,"body":"This electromagnetic radiation is not healthy."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":373.37,"endTime":381.05,"body":"And consider that we also surrounded by in every flat, in every if you live in a block of"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":381.05,"endTime":383.03,"body":"flats, you have Wi-Fi."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":383.24,"endTime":388.31,"body":"And if you have a hotel, this Wi-Fi will be blasting you in gigahertz."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":388.31,"endTime":394.16,"body":"You know, all this technology collectively create a stress on our body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":394.16,"endTime":402.05,"body":"And this stress, believe me or not, targeting first mitochondria, it literally destroys"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":402.05,"endTime":408.53,"body":"mitochondria. So you have impact from both wrong lights in the wrong time of the day, and"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":408.53,"endTime":414.62,"body":"then you have this pollutions and static electricity you carry because you cannot earth"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":414.62,"endTime":420.95,"body":"yourself. So all together, yes, the world have changed, but we have to adapt."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":420.95,"endTime":423.32,"body":"We have to do something to help ourselves."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":423.98,"endTime":429.32,"body":"So there is something of an irony that perhaps technology isn't good for us in certain"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":429.32,"endTime":430.52,"body":"aspects of our lives."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":430.52,"endTime":437.0,"body":"But we are here talking about new technology and understanding of red light and and red"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":437.0,"endTime":441.62,"body":"light therapy through technology and how that can benefit us."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":441.68,"endTime":451.28,"body":"Yes, this is irony, but also it's true because how can we evolve, how we can survive in"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":451.28,"endTime":453.83,"body":"this oceans of electromagnetic radiation."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":453.83,"endTime":459.62,"body":"Right. So you mentioned very important things like you go outdoor, you exercise, you be"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":459.62,"endTime":464.24,"body":"in the sun, you eat healthy, organic, clean food."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":464.27,"endTime":469.43,"body":"That is reducing the amount of damage and, you know, counterbalancing."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":469.43,"endTime":475.64,"body":"But what can you do if you live in the city and you stuck in the office from morning to"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":475.64,"endTime":480.89,"body":"evening? Yes. And exposed to artificial lighting and you've got you come home and then"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":480.89,"endTime":482.9,"body":"you stay at the computers or TV."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":483.17,"endTime":486.18,"body":"So you really need this."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":486.21,"endTime":491.73,"body":"You know, I would say healthy technology to counterbalance the burden which you put in"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":491.73,"endTime":492.72,"body":"yourself through."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":493.08,"endTime":496.14,"body":"And you mentioned mitochondria a few moments ago."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":496.14,"endTime":501.33,"body":"And that kind of joins the dots for me in terms of what we were talking about in our last"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":501.33,"endTime":507.27,"body":"episodes and the importance of mitochondria being the energy centers of our bodies and"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":507.27,"endTime":512.04,"body":"how mitochondrial health can be impacted through a lack of sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":512.04,"endTime":517.26,"body":"So I'm beginning to get the the full picture here, and especially the relationship with"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":517.26,"endTime":523.02,"body":"mitochondrial health and red light therapy, which again we touched on in the last"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":523.02,"endTime":530.52,"body":"episode. But maybe we could delve into how red light therapy can help us sleep better and"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":530.52,"endTime":533.37,"body":"what that actually means in a practical sense for us."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":534.93,"endTime":537.12,"body":"Definitely, definitely it can."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":537.51,"endTime":541.71,"body":"So there are two mechanisms, very interesting mechanisms."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":541.71,"endTime":546.0,"body":"They all both link to a hormone called melatonin."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":546.12,"endTime":555.24,"body":"So melatonin is released by our body primarily by pineal gland, or at least we know about"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":555.24,"endTime":556.32,"body":"the pineal gland."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":556.35,"endTime":565.17,"body":"When this melatonin is released, we go to sleep and this melatonin is released into the"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":565.17,"endTime":572.69,"body":"bloodstream. Also, we have another melatonin."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":572.96,"endTime":577.29,"body":"I mean, it's chemically exactly the same, but it released subcellular."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":577.31,"endTime":584.39,"body":"It released in the most of cells of different tissues like it released in the brain."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":584.39,"endTime":590.0,"body":"It released in the thymus, it released in the gonads."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":590.0,"endTime":592.34,"body":"It released in the different parts of the body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":592.52,"endTime":598.88,"body":"But it's inside the cell and it released in response to near-infrared light."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":599.33,"endTime":606.98,"body":"Both hormones, whether it's circulating in the blood and circulating in in your cells,"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":607.58,"endTime":611.0,"body":"they both have very positive impact on the body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":611.33,"endTime":618.05,"body":"The melatonin, which repairs the circadian rhythm and help us to sleep through blood,"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":618.5,"endTime":622.67,"body":"gives us a very good restful sleep."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":622.82,"endTime":629.25,"body":"But also, if you stimulate with near-infrared lights, your body, your physical body, you"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":629.25,"endTime":630.75,"body":"can improve."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":631.37,"endTime":636.67,"body":"Subcellular release of melatonin, and that would also impact mitochondria."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":636.68,"endTime":644.42,"body":"It also impact positively cell because it will clear all this reaction."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":644.57,"endTime":651.56,"body":"Reactive oxygen species or oxidative stress which we accumulated through all these"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":651.56,"endTime":657.86,"body":"damaging factors we just described all these pollutions, pesticides, all the, you know,"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":657.86,"endTime":664.78,"body":"environmental pollutions like AMF, which make our body aged as well."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":664.79,"endTime":669.21,"body":"So these subcellular melatonin will clear that for you."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":669.23,"endTime":674.69,"body":"So all in all, using light would be tremendously beneficial."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":676.16,"endTime":681.71,"body":"Many people will be used to supplementing with melatonin in tablet form."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":681.83,"endTime":684.43,"body":"Some people might think, well, that's actually easier."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":684.44,"endTime":691.31,"body":"Just pop a couple of tablets, maybe one milligram, three milligrams, whatever dose is is"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":691.31,"endTime":694.67,"body":"most beneficial, or at least you think it's the most beneficial for you."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":694.7,"endTime":701.54,"body":"What is the difference between that and stimulating the release of melatonin through red"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":701.54,"endTime":702.92,"body":"light exposure?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":703.7,"endTime":705.14,"body":"It's a very good question."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":705.14,"endTime":711.2,"body":"And maybe for somebody that would be the easiest way to if they indeed melatonin"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":711.2,"endTime":719.06,"body":"deficient. However, I think light is much more intuitive for the body because, you know,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":719.09,"endTime":721.25,"body":"melatonin is a chemical compound."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":721.25,"endTime":727.37,"body":"And like any chemical compounds, especially hormone, it has to be released at certain"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":727.37,"endTime":729.29,"body":"time in a certain dose."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":730.02,"endTime":736.26,"body":"You know how much I mean, who knows your own body and body chemistry apart from your"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":736.26,"endTime":737.67,"body":"brain? I don't know."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":737.67,"endTime":742.02,"body":"Any wonderful doctor still will know exactly how much you need."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":742.05,"endTime":749.79,"body":"In my view, if you use lights, you have self-regulating for melatonin effect."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":749.79,"endTime":756.87,"body":"And that I discovered I did a case study with one individual who could not sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":756.87,"endTime":759.41,"body":"And he was truly, truly insomniac."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":759.42,"endTime":761.64,"body":"It wasn't seasonal affective disorder."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":761.64,"endTime":766.07,"body":"He just could not sleep and winter and summer all the time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":766.08,"endTime":774.51,"body":"And for him it was array of the symptoms, not just insomnia but poor folk and couldn't"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":774.51,"endTime":779.55,"body":"wake up in the morning but could not fall asleep through nights."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":780.18,"endTime":787.17,"body":"Poor, poor digestion, even, you know, itchy skin all comes together as a result of one"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":787.44,"endTime":789.12,"body":"big problem in the body."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":789.12,"endTime":791.95,"body":"So we tried to use Flexbeam."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":793.24,"endTime":798.97,"body":"I gave the protocol to use Flexbeam in four parts of the body once a day."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":798.97,"endTime":804.73,"body":"And before we started this case study, I asked him to do a test."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":805.33,"endTime":812.3,"body":"It's a melatonin test to measure melatonin, but it's a saliva test through DNA."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":812.47,"endTime":813.52,"body":"Saliva test."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":813.52,"endTime":815.95,"body":"So we did this at the very beginning."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":815.98,"endTime":823.12,"body":"Then he received this therapy for Monday to Friday for three weeks, keeping the weekend"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":823.12,"endTime":827.65,"body":"off. And then fourth week he was doing every other day."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":828.09,"endTime":832.14,"body":"And then I gave one week rest and then we retested again."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":832.35,"endTime":840.63,"body":"To my utter surprise, the picture was quite interesting because what we discovered before"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":840.63,"endTime":846.0,"body":"the study, his melatonin level was rather low at night."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":846.0,"endTime":847.83,"body":"Quite, quite low."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":848.43,"endTime":853.23,"body":"But in the morning it was over the scale, like literally triple time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":853.23,"endTime":858.27,"body":"So he could not wake up because he was still in a big production of melatonin."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":858.27,"endTime":861.72,"body":"But at night it wasn't sufficient for him to fall asleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":861.84,"endTime":868.56,"body":"So what happened in the space of this five weeks that he self regulated?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":868.68,"endTime":874.2,"body":"And that was a big deal because I thought maybe we just, you know, bluntly increasing the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":874.2,"endTime":880.05,"body":"melatonin. No, his melatonin in the morning went back to all the way down within the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":880.05,"endTime":884.7,"body":"normal range. And at night it increased so he could fall asleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":885.69,"endTime":891.51,"body":"The most remarkable thing was that I met him after eight months."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":892.18,"endTime":895.33,"body":"And he did not have access to his device."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":895.98,"endTime":903.36,"body":"He still maintained the rhythm after eight years, not being able to at all to have a"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":903.36,"endTime":904.89,"body":"circadian clock working."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":904.89,"endTime":908.33,"body":"So that tells you that we have restorative."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":908.33,"endTime":909.36,"body":"We regulated him."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":909.39,"endTime":913.86,"body":"Of course, he made the conscious decision to go to bed at the right time, you know, not"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":913.86,"endTime":915.27,"body":"to expose to screens."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":915.27,"endTime":920.76,"body":"We had a conversation about this, but it just tells you that power of light is so"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":920.76,"endTime":924.65,"body":"profound. You can self regulate with this."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":925.95,"endTime":932.82,"body":"Is there an optimum time to expose yourself through flex beam to that red light before you"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":932.82,"endTime":934.47,"body":"want to go to sleep?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":934.5,"endTime":939.18,"body":"In other words, how long does it take from the the stimulation with red light to the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":939.18,"endTime":944.79,"body":"actual release of melatonin to a point that it benefits you by putting you to sleep?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":946.14,"endTime":951.72,"body":"I wouldn't know for sure because we are all different, you know, slightly different."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":951.72,"endTime":955.29,"body":"But also we have different circumstances why we're not sleeping."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":955.92,"endTime":962.25,"body":"But what I learned from our users, because I'm in contact with users all the time and so"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":962.25,"endTime":963.63,"body":"they telling me."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":964.05,"endTime":972.12,"body":"So, for example, one scenario, one patient would say, I go every evening, I put Flexbeam"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":972.12,"endTime":979.62,"body":"on three, three places on the body, and she would put the headphones and listen to some"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":979.62,"endTime":982.59,"body":"nice, you know, story or music."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":982.59,"endTime":986.98,"body":"And it's immediately calms her down and she goes into sleep really well."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":986.98,"endTime":990.88,"body":"So she developed a routine like this and it works for her."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":991.66,"endTime":999.79,"body":"On the other end, I have some users, Flexbeam users and they say I started using Flexbeam"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":999.79,"endTime":1000.87,"body":"in the evening."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1001.17,"endTime":1006.0,"body":"At first I was falling asleep, but sort of on a week two, I start feeling quite"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1006.0,"endTime":1012.24,"body":"energized. So we shifted the use in the morning when another natural window for red"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1012.24,"endTime":1014.73,"body":"lights and that sorted it out."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1014.73,"endTime":1020.31,"body":"So the morning routine would work for those people who feel energized after using red"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1020.31,"endTime":1025.92,"body":"light. Because it's a it's a powerful energy device, but you can use either in the"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1025.92,"endTime":1030.48,"body":"morning or in in the evening, you have to experiment yourself."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1030.48,"endTime":1035.28,"body":"Because that could be a source of confusion for some people that it is a process."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1035.28,"endTime":1042.33,"body":"It is a device that is going to energize you at one time of the day, but also set in"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1042.33,"endTime":1047.28,"body":"place a process that will ultimately help you sleep better by doing the opposite of"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1047.28,"endTime":1053.64,"body":"energizing you. And that is calming you down and and starting that circadian rhythm stage"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1053.64,"endTime":1056.4,"body":"that involves hopefully eight hours of sleep."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1056.4,"endTime":1062.28,"body":"So it's a it's a broader picture than just using a device that is going to do one thing."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1062.28,"endTime":1065.7,"body":"It is going to do multiple things depending on the time of day."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1066.3,"endTime":1073.14,"body":"Yes. And as I as I mentioned before, the people are, you know, we're different."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1073.14,"endTime":1081.93,"body":"And so what is important for you to use on a regular basis give the body a small portion"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1081.93,"endTime":1087.99,"body":"of adjusting your melatonin and then the body will go into this circadian clock back to"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1087.99,"endTime":1089.37,"body":"normal itself."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1089.37,"endTime":1095.16,"body":"And so I would say definitely should see results within three weeks time."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1095.16,"endTime":1098.52,"body":"But most people know most people get it even sooner."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1098.91,"endTime":1103.02,"body":"And something that's interesting to me as you've touched on this, but melatonin is"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1103.02,"endTime":1104.67,"body":"released around the body."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1104.67,"endTime":1110.61,"body":"It isn't just the pineal gland that maybe most people will associate with it, but it is"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1110.61,"endTime":1113.55,"body":"released from different parts of the body."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1113.55,"endTime":1120.3,"body":"And I'm wondering if that's why it is valuable to use Flexbeam on different parts of the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1120.3,"endTime":1120.96,"body":"body?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1121.95,"endTime":1124.05,"body":"Yes. Yes, I agree with you."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1124.05,"endTime":1127.35,"body":"This knowledge, Peter, is quite recent."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1127.35,"endTime":1128.37,"body":"Literally study."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1128.37,"endTime":1134.7,"body":"I've seen study 2019 first time and then one study 2022."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1134.7,"endTime":1136.41,"body":"I mean, that is like last year."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1136.41,"endTime":1140.82,"body":"And the scientists literally isolated."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1140.82,"endTime":1146.16,"body":"They know now there is process like this happening in every almost every cell in your"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1146.16,"endTime":1151.8,"body":"tissues, but particularly specific tissues which engage with the more of the activity."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1151.8,"endTime":1161.79,"body":"And yes, we red lights would be so beneficial in my view, what I gave"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1161.79,"endTime":1169.16,"body":"people to use for their sleep is to use it on the stomach first because stomach, to me,"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1169.16,"endTime":1171.26,"body":"it's access to our engine."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1171.29,"endTime":1173.9,"body":"This is where we hold our emotions."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1173.9,"endTime":1176.63,"body":"That's where, you know, the relaxation."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1176.63,"endTime":1184.04,"body":"That's once you help also to relax the stomach, but also stimulate the microbiota."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1184.04,"endTime":1190.61,"body":"It would help also to produce that subcellular melatonin because in the gut they have"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1190.7,"endTime":1194.72,"body":"lots and lots of cells which could make this subcellular melatonin."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1195.62,"endTime":1198.05,"body":"I like to use it also at the front."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1199.01,"endTime":1204.46,"body":"A vertical like this because there is a thymus and thymus also stimulates production of"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1204.97,"endTime":1208.87,"body":"melatonin, but also it helps to calm you."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1208.87,"endTime":1212.8,"body":"It it's really pleasant sort of position."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1212.8,"endTime":1217.75,"body":"You hold it like a baby, it calms you down and there is your heart, of course, nearby."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1217.75,"endTime":1220.33,"body":"So heart will receive energy too."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1221.05,"endTime":1229.51,"body":"So there another position at the back of the neck because well, from point of TCM and"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1229.51,"endTime":1234.76,"body":"acupuncture, traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture, there is a massive crossroad"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1234.76,"endTime":1240.91,"body":"of cervical number seven vertebra so we can use it there."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1241.33,"endTime":1248.02,"body":"And last position, it's at the bottom of the sacrum, at the bottom of the spine."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1249.19,"endTime":1256.42,"body":"Why there? Because directly this is where the nerve branches of the parasympathetic"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1256.42,"endTime":1258.13,"body":"system are coming from."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1258.13,"endTime":1263.81,"body":"So you initiate that sleep input in the body."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1264.02,"endTime":1268.85,"body":"Is there a maximum time in terms of minutes per day?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1268.88,"endTime":1273.32,"body":"You mentioned the different parts of the body for ten minutes at a time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1273.32,"endTime":1278.3,"body":"Would you recommend only perhaps doing three parts of the body per day?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1278.3,"endTime":1282.5,"body":"And then of course, the decision comes which parts of the body do you focus on?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1282.5,"endTime":1287.06,"body":"What? I guess it depends on what aspect of your health you're trying to improve."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1287.69,"endTime":1292.94,"body":"Yes, In average, you could even do two parts of the body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1293.39,"endTime":1298.73,"body":"If there is something really problematic, then you can increase the number."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1298.76,"endTime":1302.12,"body":"I would say up to four four places on the body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1302.12,"endTime":1309.83,"body":"You could do, um, generally speaking, as we said, it's light and I have some users who"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1309.86,"endTime":1315.92,"body":"use it for the whole hour and I have some users who used to Flexbeams at once."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1315.92,"endTime":1320.98,"body":"So maybe in half an hour they cover six places on the body, it seems."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1320.98,"endTime":1326.89,"body":"All right. But generally speaking, I don't want people to overuse it because I always"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1326.89,"endTime":1329.53,"body":"want them to receive results from therapy."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1329.53,"endTime":1336.52,"body":"Yes. So in this case, I would say three position, four position, maximum a day."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1336.52,"endTime":1340.21,"body":"And also periodically small gaps."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1340.21,"endTime":1346.3,"body":"Like I came up with this ridiculous maybe it's a Monday to Friday weekend off."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1346.3,"endTime":1349.36,"body":"So it's just because people can remember this."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1349.36,"endTime":1354.1,"body":"Yes. But it means that you use it, use it, use it, and then just give a pause so you"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1354.1,"endTime":1357.58,"body":"don't over overwhelm the body with energy."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1358.06,"endTime":1365.83,"body":"And there's an element of teaching your body to, to some extent, thrive without"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1365.86,"endTime":1369.28,"body":"necessarily using something like this every single day."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1369.28,"endTime":1375.97,"body":"That it isn't just the treatment that equals improvement in your health, it's treatment"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1375.97,"endTime":1379.93,"body":"that equals improvement of your health because your body overall is improving."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1380.03,"endTime":1385.19,"body":"And you could apply that, for example, to your circadian rhythm and how you fall asleep"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1385.19,"endTime":1391.58,"body":"and how you wake up at a more regimented time, a time that suits you better than you were"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1391.58,"endTime":1392.33,"body":"previously."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1392.33,"endTime":1399.29,"body":"Yes. However, FlexBeam could be used for completely healthy individual just to maintain"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1399.29,"endTime":1406.79,"body":"that energy because, you know, however sterile environment you live in, there will be"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1406.79,"endTime":1409.55,"body":"still impact from environment on your body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1409.55,"endTime":1416.27,"body":"So you know sooner and we know that it's a red light therapy stimulates immune system so"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1416.27,"endTime":1419.84,"body":"it's good to have it all the time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1420.41,"endTime":1427.37,"body":"And in terms of dosage and anyone who uses a FlexBeam will obviously get full instructions"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1427.37,"endTime":1428.57,"body":"in terms of how to use it."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1428.57,"endTime":1433.52,"body":"But there are different settings that apply, especially whether you're using it on your"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1433.52,"endTime":1435.14,"body":"front or on your back."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1435.65,"endTime":1438.98,"body":"Yes, I should mention about this, it's important."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1439.28,"endTime":1442.7,"body":"So with FlexBeam, we have three programs."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1442.7,"endTime":1446.57,"body":"Each program has already the full dose."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1446.57,"endTime":1452.03,"body":"So in ten minutes of stimulation that parts of the body where you place the device will"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1452.03,"endTime":1457.49,"body":"receive a dose. You don't need to repeat this over and over ten minutes enough, just move"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1457.49,"endTime":1458.66,"body":"somewhere else."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1459.32,"endTime":1468.26,"body":"And we have on the settings, we have three programs here, so they help you to target."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1468.38,"endTime":1476.54,"body":"So for example, if you have some issue like wounds or you just bruise yourself, yes, it's"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1476.54,"endTime":1479.99,"body":"a level of the skin you need to use Program one."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1480.47,"endTime":1486.29,"body":"If you go for something deeper like small joints, then you choose program two."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1486.29,"endTime":1490.43,"body":"It helps you to focus more on deep inside the body."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1490.43,"endTime":1497.03,"body":"And then program three will get you that ten ten centimeters depth, the most powerful"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1497.03,"endTime":1498.29,"body":"preset. So of course."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1498.5,"endTime":1503.95,"body":"You won't use three on the joints because you know they're only tiny."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1503.96,"endTime":1510.59,"body":"It's one centimeter, so you need to use it where the knees or where the hip joints."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1511.13,"endTime":1517.1,"body":"You can use it for sciatica on the buttocks, for example, you know, something like this."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1517.1,"endTime":1524.06,"body":"So in general, again, just for ease of remembering, I instruct people use program two at"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1524.06,"endTime":1527.36,"body":"the front. Like where the internal organs."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1527.6,"endTime":1528.62,"body":"Program two."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1528.65,"endTime":1535.13,"body":"So the sort of three, four centimeters depth but at the back because all back covered"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1535.13,"endTime":1541.1,"body":"with muscles deeper you need deeper penetration then use program three for deeper"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1541.1,"endTime":1542.66,"body":"penetration at the back."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1543.23,"endTime":1544.61,"body":"This is fascinating."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1544.61,"endTime":1550.31,"body":"We are going to return with more applications, more discussion about red light therapy."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1550.31,"endTime":1554.87,"body":"Just in closing for this episode, a broader question for you."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1554.87,"endTime":1561.0,"body":"I two conversations now, two episodes detect your huge enthusiasm."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1561.0,"endTime":1565.35,"body":"And we talked at the beginning of the first episode about your own personal experience of"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1565.35,"endTime":1568.68,"body":"of healing and how that was important to you."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1568.68,"endTime":1575.04,"body":"But maybe you could just express for us how you feel about this in in broader health"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1575.04,"endTime":1579.66,"body":"terms. You're clearly someone who is ultra focused on on personal health."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1579.66,"endTime":1584.88,"body":"But looking to the future and how you've embraced this technology, just what it means to"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1584.88,"endTime":1585.39,"body":"you?"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1586.77,"endTime":1591.0,"body":"Well, very, very, very important questions."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1591.0,"endTime":1598.74,"body":"We do things in life which are meaningful for us because without that, life would be too"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1598.74,"endTime":1602.73,"body":"boring, I think, saying that."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1603.67,"endTime":1611.86,"body":"My journey in life, especially me experiencing tremendous trauma and recovering from this"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1612.01,"endTime":1616.6,"body":"actually inspired me to tell others that this is possible."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1616.63,"endTime":1620.39,"body":"I want my patients to know that they can recover."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1620.41,"endTime":1626.77,"body":"I know my patients to be armed with tools which they can help them to recover."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1626.86,"endTime":1632.41,"body":"And I want my patients to know and tell everybody that this is possible."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1632.41,"endTime":1633.49,"body":"This is possible."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1633.49,"endTime":1639.4,"body":"No, no matter how sick and ill you are to achieve full health."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1639.43,"endTime":1644.41,"body":"I was able to do it, so I think everybody else would be able to do it."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1645.13,"endTime":1652.06,"body":"I want also people to know that it's time for you to take responsibility for your health"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1652.06,"endTime":1658.06,"body":"in your own hands because it's not good that you abuse your body and then you go and take"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1658.06,"endTime":1664.82,"body":"pills for that. It's you never achieve health with this, but with health you feel so much"},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1664.82,"endTime":1668.09,"body":"better, so much more enthusiastic about life."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1668.09,"endTime":1672.95,"body":"And I'm super, super passionate to give this message to everyone."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1673.28,"endTime":1675.35,"body":"Please help yourself."},{"speaker":"Zulia Frost","startTime":1675.38,"endTime":1678.53,"body":"Empower yourself to heal your body."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1679.58,"endTime":1681.95,"body":"I think it's a really good message for the time being."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1681.95,"endTime":1683.9,"body":"Dr. Frost. Thank you very much indeed."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1684.38,"endTime":1686.42,"body":"Thank you, Peter. Thank you very much."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1687.89,"endTime":1693.14,"body":"And if you would like to try FlexBeam for yourself, Recharge Health is offering LLAMA"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1693.14,"endTime":1698.0,"body":"podcast viewers and listeners a discount on the purchase of a unit."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1698.03,"endTime":1702.68,"body":"You'll find full details in the show notes for this episode, either on the platform where"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1702.68,"endTime":1706.58,"body":"you are now or our website, which is LLAMApodcast.com."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1706.88,"endTime":1709.28,"body":"LLAMApodcast.com."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1709.31,"endTime":1715.46,"body":"In our next episode, we're going to talk about how red light could help us recover from"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1715.46,"endTime":1719.9,"body":"aches and pains, problems with our joints, as we've just been referring to, and"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1719.9,"endTime":1722.78,"body":"flexibility. I hope you can join us next time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1722.78,"endTime":1725.99,"body":"Live Long and Master Aging is a Healthspan Media production."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1725.99,"endTime":1729.86,"body":"We share ideas here, but we do not offer medical advice."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1729.86,"endTime":1735.14,"body":"If you have health concerns of any kind or if you are considering adopting a health"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":1735.14,"endTime":1738.83,"body":"related regime, you should first consult your doctor."}]}