{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":0.11,"endTime":5.96,"body":"I'm in Las Vegas at Longevity Fest, which is the annual meeting of the American Academy of"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":5.96,"endTime":7.97,"body":"Anti-Aging medicine."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":7.97,"endTime":13.79,"body":"And I'm with Jen Scheinman, who is with Timeline, which is the Swiss longevity company"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":13.79,"endTime":17.09,"body":"that we've been following on this podcast for a number of years."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":17.12,"endTime":22.13,"body":"And you've been coming to this event for at least 3 or 4 years, and it's grown in size,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":22.13,"endTime":22.76,"body":"hasn't it?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":22.79,"endTime":27.8,"body":"Yes. I've been coming personally for three years, and every year it's just incredible."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":27.8,"endTime":32.42,"body":"Not only the amount of physicians and other practitioners that are here, but also the"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":32.42,"endTime":35.69,"body":"excitement around what's happening in the space of longevity."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":35.72,"endTime":39.56,"body":"And just to explain, the people that come here, this is a professional event."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":39.56,"endTime":44.63,"body":"So it's health providers, it's doctors, it's nurses, it's researchers in the field of"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":44.63,"endTime":45.8,"body":"human longevity."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":45.8,"endTime":47.93,"body":"So it's not open to the public in that respect."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":47.93,"endTime":53.21,"body":"But I suppose the beauty of it is that the experts and the professionals here can gain"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":53.21,"endTime":57.77,"body":"new knowledge and then pass it on, maybe decipher it a little bit and pass it on to their"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":57.77,"endTime":58.49,"body":"patients."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":58.52,"endTime":59.6,"body":"Yes, exactly."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":59.62,"endTime":64.24,"body":"So we're seeing, you know, from physicians to nurse practitioners to even health coaches"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":64.24,"endTime":69.1,"body":"coming here, getting the latest science from the experts that are either conducting the"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":69.1,"endTime":73.09,"body":"studies or are really leading the charge in longevity medicine and then taking that back"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":73.09,"endTime":74.29,"body":"to their communities."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":74.32,"endTime":79.24,"body":"Urolithin A which is Mitopure - explain to me, we've talked about it many times on this"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":79.24,"endTime":81.13,"body":"podcast, but explain to me what it is."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":81.55,"endTime":85.24,"body":"So I always like to start with where you find it in nature, so people kind of can"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":85.24,"endTime":89.74,"body":"understand where this exists, and it's what's called a postbiotic nutrient."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":89.74,"endTime":93.82,"body":"So we know a lot about the gut and the fact that our gut microbiome is so critical to our"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":93.82,"endTime":98.59,"body":"health, but we're just uncovering these molecules that our gut produces for us, called"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":98.59,"endTime":101.32,"body":"postbiotics. So we don't get it in food directly."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":101.32,"endTime":104.17,"body":"We need a gut, a healthy gut to make it for us."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":104.2,"endTime":107.71,"body":"Unfortunately, most of us don't have that, and we've actually studied the population, and"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":107.71,"endTime":111.31,"body":"really only about 30 to 40% of the population can make this molecule."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":111.31,"endTime":115.84,"body":"And what it does is it triggers this recycling process inside our cells."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":115.84,"endTime":120.92,"body":"So if people remember back fondly to high school biology and the mitochondria we think"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":120.92,"endTime":122.0,"body":"powerhouse of the cell."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":122.03,"endTime":126.32,"body":"These are energy generators, but unfortunately they decline as we get older."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":126.32,"endTime":130.91,"body":"And what urolithin A this molecule can do is take those dysfunctional, broken down"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":130.91,"endTime":133.7,"body":"mitochondria, recycle them, create new ones."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":133.7,"endTime":137.27,"body":"So your cells are essentially acting in a more youthful way with more energy to do their"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":137.27,"endTime":137.66,"body":"jobs."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":137.69,"endTime":139.61,"body":"And that's why you love your mitochondria."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":139.64,"endTime":140.9,"body":"Absolutely. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":140.93,"endTime":145.4,"body":"Would you like it if people love their mitochondria more, or at least had a greater"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":145.4,"endTime":149.51,"body":"awareness of their significance for our everyday health and our future health?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":149.54,"endTime":153.59,"body":"Absolutely. I sometimes joke that I think people have post-traumatic stress from high"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":153.59,"endTime":158.3,"body":"school biology and first hearing about the mitochondria, and I want people to actually"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":158.3,"endTime":160.67,"body":"get excited about this little tiny organelle."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":160.7,"endTime":165.83,"body":"They are so mind blowing in what they do for our body, even beyond energy production."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":165.83,"endTime":170.0,"body":"And when you think of aging and you think of all the chronic conditions that come along"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":170.0,"endTime":176.06,"body":"with aging, whether it is muscle wasting, muscle decline, brain function, even how our"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":176.06,"endTime":178.27,"body":"skin ages, a key piece of that."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":178.27,"endTime":181.48,"body":"A key hallmark of that is actually due to our mitochondria."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":181.48,"endTime":187.39,"body":"So if we can love our mitochondria and take care of them and nourish them, then we can"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":187.39,"endTime":190.27,"body":"essentially hopefully slow down how we're aging."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":190.3,"endTime":195.43,"body":"And at the heart of this is, is energy is muscle strength, both of which are crucially"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":195.43,"endTime":200.35,"body":"important as we get older, especially muscle strength, to try to avoid that frailty,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":200.38,"endTime":205.45,"body":"which would inevitably and probably will inevitably come along for everyone at a certain"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":205.45,"endTime":205.96,"body":"age."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":205.99,"endTime":210.31,"body":"Absolutely. If you're not doing something to actively slow down how your muscle age and"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":210.31,"endTime":215.62,"body":"that includes diet, healthy diet, strength resistance training, but adding external"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":215.62,"endTime":220.18,"body":"molecules potentially like urolithin A, you are inevitably going to have muscle decline."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":220.18,"endTime":221.02,"body":"That starts to happen."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":221.05,"endTime":222.43,"body":"Now this is a product."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":222.43,"endTime":227.05,"body":"This is science that's been evolving with your company for a number of years now."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":227.08,"endTime":231.73,"body":"A lot of research went into this before the product went onto the market."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":231.76,"endTime":237.05,"body":"Could you just quantify for me what has gone into this and the lengths of the research"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":237.05,"endTime":238.61,"body":"that people back in Switzerland."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":238.64,"endTime":242.09,"body":"You're based in Switzerland, your parent company and what's gone into this."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":242.87,"endTime":246.71,"body":"So honestly, I think there's just been some incredible dedication to the science that's"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":246.71,"endTime":248.03,"body":"gone into the development of this."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":248.03,"endTime":250.73,"body":"I have been a dietician working in, you know."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":250.76,"endTime":253.13,"body":"nutrition for almost 25 years."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":253.13,"endTime":257.78,"body":"And I have never seen a supplement company that has done this level of research."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":257.78,"endTime":262.43,"body":"So they approached this molecule almost like a biotech, even almost pharmaceutical type"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":262.43,"endTime":268.88,"body":"of approach, where they study this molecule all the way from worms into humans to really"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":268.88,"endTime":274.31,"body":"understand its mechanism of action, its safety, the dose that you need to really get a"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":274.31,"endTime":275.93,"body":"beneficial effect from it."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":276.11,"endTime":279.11,"body":"And that's just very unique to see in the supplement industry."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":279.11,"endTime":283.37,"body":"And just the founders of our company and the scientists who have led the charge with"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":283.37,"endTime":287.78,"body":"this, it's just very unique and very passionate about changing the way that we deal with"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":287.78,"endTime":288.26,"body":"supplements."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":288.29,"endTime":293.75,"body":"And that still evolving science, because you now have the benefit of big data - data from"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":293.75,"endTime":296.74,"body":"people around the world who are using this supplementation."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":296.74,"endTime":302.02,"body":"I'm curious to know what you've learned from what people tell you about how they feel"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":302.02,"endTime":305.44,"body":"after they've taken this supplement for a relatively long period of time."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":305.47,"endTime":307.15,"body":"And by that I mean a number of years."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":307.72,"endTime":312.22,"body":"Yeah. So what we do here is that it's mimicking in the real world what our clinical trials"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":312.22,"endTime":315.64,"body":"have shown, which is an improvement in muscle strength, improvement in muscle endurance."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":315.64,"endTime":321.4,"body":"The other things, though, that I hear almost on a daily basis, is things like my recovery"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":321.4,"endTime":323.68,"body":"after a workout is so much more improved."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":323.68,"endTime":327.7,"body":"I can go to the gym and I do a hard workout, and I feel great the next day."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":327.7,"endTime":332.08,"body":"And we do have some research actually about to be published showcasing that as well."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":332.11,"endTime":336.7,"body":"The other thing that I hear and I also personally have noticed, is I call it like a"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":336.7,"endTime":341.11,"body":"subtle energy where it's not like you just drink a ton of caffeine, you just feel like"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":341.11,"endTime":345.52,"body":"yourself again, you have energy to get through your day, you know, to spend time with"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":345.52,"endTime":348.46,"body":"your friends and family, to work hard, do the things that you need to do."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":348.49,"endTime":350.71,"body":"Do the things that you love to do and just feel better."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":350.74,"endTime":352.51,"body":"What do you say to people?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":352.51,"endTime":357.75,"body":"Maybe not the the audience that you have here, but people who say, I'm really confused"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":357.75,"endTime":362.97,"body":"about which supplementation I need to or should be using or should be trying because"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":362.97,"endTime":367.77,"body":"there are so many. And I'm just bewildered by the potential benefits of different"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":367.77,"endTime":370.32,"body":"supplements that are marketed around the world."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":370.32,"endTime":372.87,"body":"You see the ads on TV, in magazines."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":372.87,"endTime":374.43,"body":"Where should people start?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":374.46,"endTime":378.3,"body":"So I think the most important place to start actually, is with the quality of any"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":378.3,"endTime":379.74,"body":"supplement that you want to take."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":379.77,"endTime":382.98,"body":"And that's one of the things that Timeline is also very dedicated to being very"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":382.98,"endTime":384.24,"body":"transparent in our quality."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":384.24,"endTime":387.66,"body":"So looking for third party testing like NSF for sport."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":387.72,"endTime":389.43,"body":"We are also a clean label certified."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":389.43,"endTime":392.94,"body":"So that's one way to know that actually it's a quality supplement."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":392.94,"endTime":395.13,"body":"And the next is to look at the published research."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":395.13,"endTime":397.56,"body":"As I mentioned, it's very unique what we're doing."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":397.68,"endTime":400.86,"body":"There are some other companies that are doing some amazing work in the supplement space."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":400.86,"endTime":405.81,"body":"So you want to make sure that the research is there to, you know, for any of the claims"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":405.81,"endTime":408.6,"body":"that they're making so that, you know, that you're spending your money on something that"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":408.6,"endTime":410.37,"body":"will actually work and actually help you."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":410.4,"endTime":415.28,"body":"Well, I've been following the progress of the Urolithin A science that you've been"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":415.31,"endTime":416.69,"body":"evolving for a number of years."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":416.69,"endTime":418.73,"body":"In fact, before this product went on the market."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":418.73,"endTime":423.35,"body":"And one of the reasons I'm here this weekend is to talk to some of the people, the health"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":423.35,"endTime":428.12,"body":"professionals, the doctors, the nurses that you are involving in your research."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":428.12,"endTime":429.98,"body":"And we've been doing those interviews."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":429.98,"endTime":432.59,"body":"We'll be rolling them out over the next few weeks."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":432.59,"endTime":436.58,"body":"And there's some real stars amongst the group of people that you've collected together"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":436.58,"endTime":437.54,"body":"for us to talk to."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":437.57,"endTime":442.13,"body":"Yeah, yeah. I mean, we are I think again, back to the quality of research."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":442.13,"endTime":447.62,"body":"We have really attracted the top minds in the longevity, the health space, because"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":447.62,"endTime":448.94,"body":"they've seen this research."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":448.94,"endTime":452.33,"body":"And so some of the people that we've been working with that were here at the show, I'll"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":452.33,"endTime":453.77,"body":"start with Doctor Felice Gersh."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":453.8,"endTime":460.7,"body":"She is a ob/gyn who has really been pioneering, you know, changes in longevity and just"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":460.73,"endTime":462.05,"body":"female health perspective."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":462.08,"endTime":466.88,"body":"We also had Doctor Terry Wahls, who is changing the way that we think of chronic"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":466.88,"endTime":471.6,"body":"conditions like multiple sclerosis and how lifestyle interventions and supplements can"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":471.6,"endTime":476.04,"body":"really help to reverse the really tragic symptoms that happen with that."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":476.07,"endTime":481.59,"body":"We also spoke with Doctor Stephanie Estima, who is a chiropractor and very active in the"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":481.59,"endTime":486.78,"body":"women's perimenopause and menopause space, and really talking a lot about the critical"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":486.78,"endTime":490.44,"body":"importance of muscle health and strength training as women get older."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":490.44,"endTime":493.92,"body":"And then Cynthia Thurlow, who is a nurse practitioner."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":494.07,"endTime":498.33,"body":"She's done quite a bit of work in the fasting community and is also now really passionate"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":498.33,"endTime":502.56,"body":"and doing a lot of research and a deep dive into gut health as we age and its role in"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":502.56,"endTime":503.37,"body":"immune health."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":503.4,"endTime":507.21,"body":"And what's interesting to me is the the range of specialties that you've just mentioned"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":507.24,"endTime":512.94,"body":"there and that really does it kind of helps us join the dots that everything is"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":512.94,"endTime":517.29,"body":"connected. You could be talking about the gut microbiome."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":517.32,"endTime":519.69,"body":"You could be talking about the mouth microbiome."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":519.69,"endTime":522.69,"body":"You could be talking about your muscle strength or the energy that you feel at the"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":522.69,"endTime":524.16,"body":"beginning of the day and the end of the day."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":524.16,"endTime":527.55,"body":"All of these aspects of life really do go together."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":527.58,"endTime":532.18,"body":"And I think that's where it's interesting to talk to people to help me, and I think"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":532.18,"endTime":536.95,"body":"everyone to just to figure out that this is a holistic approach to health."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":537.19,"endTime":541.18,"body":"And I think when you do sort of make friends with that concept of the mitochondria and"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":541.18,"endTime":544.87,"body":"think about them, they're in actually every cell in our body except our red blood cells."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":544.87,"endTime":547.6,"body":"And that's actually the true secret to how this works."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":547.6,"endTime":550.96,"body":"So if you're taking care of your mitochondria, that means your muscles are going to be"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":550.96,"endTime":553.3,"body":"better. That means your brain health is going to be better."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":553.3,"endTime":555.04,"body":"That means your skin health is going to be better."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":555.04,"endTime":557.08,"body":"And that's truly the foundation to it."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":557.11,"endTime":560.56,"body":"What are you excited about looking ahead to the future?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":560.74,"endTime":564.25,"body":"Gosh, we've got a lot of new studies that are coming out that I'm excited about."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":564.25,"endTime":568.72,"body":"The first one that should hopefully be published sometime in 2025 is looking at actually"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":568.75,"endTime":571.36,"body":"a different take on aging, and it's looking at immune aging."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":571.36,"endTime":575.74,"body":"So a lot of times we think of immune health as boosting immune through a flu season."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":575.74,"endTime":580.45,"body":"Right. But actually we should be thinking about our immune system aging just like any"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":580.45,"endTime":581.47,"body":"other organ in our body."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":581.47,"endTime":584.17,"body":"And we've got some really exciting research coming out around that."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":584.2,"endTime":587.8,"body":"We have some exciting research coming out in the sports and performance."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":587.8,"endTime":592.98,"body":"So looking at athletes and there's going to be a lot of other research looking also at"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":593.01,"endTime":596.19,"body":"like brain aging, a lot of different areas of the aging population."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":596.22,"endTime":600.72,"body":"Well, we're going to be, as I say, rolling out these interviews over the next few weeks,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":600.72,"endTime":602.07,"body":"which I'm really excited to do."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":602.1,"endTime":603.27,"body":"Just one final question."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":603.27,"endTime":608.58,"body":"As you leave this event here in Sin City, Las Vegas, there's nothing sinful about what's"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":608.58,"endTime":612.93,"body":"around us here, but what kind of energy are you taking away with you?"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":612.96,"endTime":615.27,"body":"What have you learned just through talking to people here?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":615.3,"endTime":617.28,"body":"I think it's just an excitement for the future."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":617.31,"endTime":622.68,"body":"I think we're on this cusp of really being able to take our health, our longevity, into"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":622.68,"endTime":627.09,"body":"our own hands. And I think doctors are utilizing the amazing tools that are here."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":627.09,"endTime":628.47,"body":"They're getting excited about it."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":628.47,"endTime":630.6,"body":"Patients are really open to it and excited about it."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":630.6,"endTime":634.74,"body":"So I think we're just on a really nice trajectory to have people live, not necessarily"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":634.74,"endTime":636.42,"body":"just longer, but healthier."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":636.42,"endTime":640.83,"body":"That's the true thing is, how do you get all the quality in the years of your life?"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":640.83,"endTime":642.27,"body":"And that's what we're really passionate about."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":642.3,"endTime":646.56,"body":"Well, Healthspan is something I think I talk about with all of your guests that we've just"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":646.56,"endTime":650.59,"body":"mentioned, and it's probably worth repeating again what we mean by healthspan."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":650.59,"endTime":656.83,"body":"It's living to a good long age, but being free of those chronic diseases which, sadly,"},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":656.83,"endTime":658.33,"body":"will inevitably come along."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":659.23,"endTime":661.87,"body":"Exactly right. When you think about living to 100, if 20 of those years are going to be in"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":661.87,"endTime":665.35,"body":"a wheelchair or in a nursing home, that's not the same as living to 100."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":665.35,"endTime":669.43,"body":"And, you know, being able to do the activities that you love, enjoy your retirement,"},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":669.43,"endTime":670.63,"body":"enjoy your grandchildren."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":670.66,"endTime":671.77,"body":"Jen, great to talk to you."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":671.77,"endTime":674.62,"body":"I'm looking forward to following the progress of your work."},{"speaker":"Peter Bowes","startTime":674.62,"endTime":675.34,"body":"Thank you very much."},{"speaker":"Jen Scheinman","startTime":675.37,"endTime":676.57,"body":"Yeah. Thank you so much."},{"speaker":"DISCLAIMER","startTime":676.6,"endTime":681.82,"body":"This podcast is for informational, educational and entertainment purposes only."},{"speaker":"DISCLAIMER","startTime":681.85,"endTime":684.34,"body":"We do not offer medical advice."},{"speaker":"DISCLAIMER","startTime":684.37,"endTime":689.71,"body":"If you have health concerns of any kind or you are considering adopting a new diet or"},{"speaker":"DISCLAIMER","startTime":689.71,"endTime":693.64,"body":"exercise regime, you should first consult your doctor."}]}