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That Metal Interview Podcast Season 7 Episode 2

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THAT METAL INTERVIEW presents Lee Harrison of Monstrosity (recorded March 2026). Mr. Harrison makes his return to the show to chat about MONSTROSITY's 7th full-length studio release, 'Screams From Beneath the Surface'. Lee dives into the writing process and how his formula works; reveals the band's secret to longetivity.

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SPEAKER_01

Hello, this is Way for Monstrosities, and you're watching that metal interview. Keep it brutal.

SPEAKER_00

That metal interview. Cool. So thanks for coming back on the show. I think last time we did uh uh audio only, but uh thanks for making time, Lee. Cool man, appreciate it. Where are you at? I'm in Texas, uh a couple hours from San Antonio. Gotcha. Uh so where are you at? Uh if you want to share Tampa for the birthplace of metal for sure, right? Death metal. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

About ten minutes from the airport.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh been here since '93, same house.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. What do you think is in Tampa, Lee? I mean, there's so many death metal bands, and not only the death metal bands, but name famous death metal bands Anyone. Name in a bunch of bands uh besides Monstrosity.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I think Warzone is one of the big the big ingredients, you know. The fact that we had a studio that was world-class. Uh that definitely helped. Um there was fans probably that wouldn't have gotten noticed were able to get noticed. Man, that definitely helps.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, if if somebody or whoever lives there, you can run into Glenn Benton or John Tardy at a corner store, huh?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Yeah, it's happened.

SPEAKER_00

There's so many musicians out there. I'm a I'm a huge death metal fan, so uh I'd be in heaven if I live there. Yeah. Well, thank you, Lee, for for coming on the show once more and uh the colossal rage. Music video, it's uh I have no words, it's just metal, melter face. How do you guys come up with this music? Make sure it's metal, like good metal, not a bunch of crap. You guys come up with awesome stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh we work hard at it, you know, um, put a lot of time and effort. Um this particular uh well say uh that particular song was probably around 2020 when I came up with that one, kind of when COVID first hit. I had uh I had written four songs for the album back during the mixing sessions for the last album. But then uh I kind of finished it up when COVID hit, and we were everybody was kind of locked inside. Um yeah, I just pretty much come up with a drum skeleton and and uh kind of the the main riffs, and then I send that off to my guitar player Matt Barnes, and he you know puts his stuff to it and kind of makes it better. He's a more technical guitar player than I am, so he can kind of take it up to the next level and make everything, you know, keeping my same original idea, but make it even better. So he's very good at that, and uh I'm fortunate to have him. So nice we're a good team, we we work well together, you know. I can send him something at like six o'clock at night, and by seven in the morning I've got something back in my email waiting on me. Wow. And uh that's you know, he works in the morning, so usually I'm a late night guy. I'll work all night, you know. But I'll if you know if I get him something by three in the morning, usually by seven o'clock in the morning, I'll have something back waiting on me.

SPEAKER_00

By something back and sending things around, you mean uh riffs, right? Or uh lyrics.

SPEAKER_01

Just well, yeah, I write the lyrics, so they they don't really work, you know, nobody else really handles the lyrics. But uh as far as music, you know, I'll have, you know, I have my riffs and I'm a good I'm a good guitar player, but he's a great guitar player, so he kind of takes he takes what I write and they make it better, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So Yeah. Yeah, we know we all know you're a talent, lead you're a drummer, guitar player, lyrics.

SPEAKER_01

Do a little bit of everything, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, awesome. So when you write a riff, do you have that drumbeat in the back of your mind, or does it just come along when you sit behind the set?

SPEAKER_01

Um, certain songs are written different ways. Like that's Colossal Rage, for example. That was Guitar First. Whereas uh the first four songs that I was telling you about Vanished, Atrophied, The Thorns, and Dark Aura, those first four songs, those were drum skeletons I had first. So I came up with the drums and then I took that and then later on added the guitar riffs to it later. Um I think you know, even though even when I write the guitars first, I think in my head though, I have an idea for what the drums are gonna be. Um yeah. So maybe, you know, maybe not consciously, but definitely subconsciously, you know, in my head I kind of have an idea where I'm gonna go. And you know, I change, you know, I I experiment with it. You know, I'll I'll I'll I'll basically like set a click track and then I'll just record guitar riffs for I'll do like 20 minutes worth of just just writing riffs. And basically once I get the riff twice in a good form, then I'll move on to a next riff, you know. So then I'll have like 20 minutes of just riff, new riff, new riff, new riff, new riff, you know, for like 20 minutes worth. And then I'll go back and I'll I'll I'll cut those up. I'll cut, okay, here's here's a good version of that riff, here's a good version of that riff. No, here's a good version of. And then sometimes they don't work together, you know, and I'll I'll I'll take, you know, maybe I'll have two good riffs that'll and that'll kind of lead me to when you know I'll start to click again and start over and do another 20 minutes, but then I'll kind of focus on those those parts and trying to make other parts that are gonna go with those. So I'll kind of fine-tune it as I go and kind of slowly shape it into something.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. That's all that's a cool formula. Um have you uh of course, nobody's perfect. Have you ever come up with a riff? Unintentionally, of course, because uh you are monstrosity. Have you ever come up with a riff that you're like, damn, this this is not a good riff. It sounds like poison or mod de crew. Let me scratch that off. That kind of sucks.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So that there's that formula. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01

Hopefully not, hopefully not La Lacrue, but you know, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Some kickstart my hard kind of riff.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and uh there'll there'll be riffs that are like, you know, but sometimes I write music like that, you know, so it's just that'll go into that folder, you know. I'll I'll I'll save that music for another project, or or I'll just put it in the can for, you know, maybe it'll get used and maybe they won't. Um, you know, I did a project with Midnight from Crimson Glory back in 2007 to 2009 before he passed away. And I did I did that a lot. There was some ideas that I had kind of stored that really didn't fit monstrosity, where I was able to pull them out and you know, and maybe use them. And um I have I worked with another guy, a friend of mine, he's a singer, and same thing with that, where it's like it doesn't really fit monstrosity, but it works for him, you know. So so I got different different ideas, you know. I don't I try not to write crap, but you know, sometimes it happens, you know, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Nobody's perfect now.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And that's that's the thing. Sometimes, you know, I'll write something and then I'll go back and just make it better, you know. And so like, even though maybe at first it wasn't that great, but then by the time I keep working on it, it gets better and better, and you know, hopefully it's something that can be used.

SPEAKER_00

Do you rehearse a lot? Uh the drums, especially, because that that's what's more physical.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, um, I try to play every day, at least for like a half an hour to an hour a day, at least. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Just you know, I try, you know, life gets in the way. You know, my parents are getting older, so I have I go down and uh hang out with them, and you know, if they need me to move stuff around or help, you know, just I'll hang out with them, you know. I want to visit with them. Um so on those days I don't get to practice, you know, but um maybe I'll do like some hand exercises just you know on a pad or whatever. But as far as I you know, like when I'm home and here and I'm working like pretty much from like eight o'clock at night to ten o'clock at night, I have you know, scheduled I I'm pretty consistent uh as far as you know, definitely from nine to ten at the very least, I get in here. But uh and you know, and I'll play like sometimes I play I just I won't even play death metal, I'll play like cover songs, you know, just I got a little machine here and I'll have songs programmed into my machine and I can, you know, like doing some rush or doing some yes or uh some you know Aussie, some like old Sabbath. I do fairies wear boots, I like doing that one a lot. Blah blah blah. You know, that's kind of my thing. And then then I have this I have like the the set programmed into this box too. So like I'll just sometimes I'll just run the set and uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Prepare for the tool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So uh you may you already answered this question. You kind of answered it. Uh the the first song, the Colossal Rage. You said it's an old riff from the uh 2020, 2021, give or take. Uh my question was uh do you guys start writing on your own or do you wait for Metal Blade to to uh give you the green light? But you kind of answered that with that song, huh?

SPEAKER_01

No, we don't wait for anybody, we just do, you know. Um kind of in the past, you know, usually we tour first and and kind of get that out of the way, and then once we've got the touring out of the way, then we focus on writing the album. This album we did I did try to start early, but it didn't work necessarily. But like right now we have we've probably got two and a half songs. Maybe it works though for sure, but and then I've got probably fifty ideas, you know. I got um like when I when I practice a lot of times I'll just re hit record on I got m I got mics on my drums, and I got my machine over there, I'll just hit record. And then uh Yeah, so I I try to I try to record everything that I play, you know, anytime I play. Um any anytime the band play, I record every rehearsal of of the band. And the reason I do that, not really for for to be released or anything, but you know, sometimes somebody will mess up or there'll be something, and we was that me or was that you, you know, we didn't know we can go back and listen to it, okay. That was you, uh you did you only did it three times instead of four, or vice versa, or whoever it was, or whatever. Um so that's that it's a good habit to just you know, plus it's good to go back and listen to what you did, and um I've got terabytes of hard drives filled with rehearsals. Really? Yeah. And then uh the same with terrorizer when I was playing with Pete Sandoval, you know, I'd I try to record every rehearsal and I got terabytes of terrorizer rehearsals too.

SPEAKER_00

Um fans would would kill for to hear some of those uh you got a treasure there with uh monstrosia terrorizer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But uh anyway, like when I'll record, like when it's just me here alone, I'll you know, I'll just play, you know, record, I'll I'll create a skeleton, and then sometimes I won't do anything with like I've got like I said, I've got about 50 ideas, so like on a rainy day sometime when I when I'm sick, or if I don't like I can't I've got time to kill, or like maybe you know uh um it's just one of those things where I can go back and visit it and turn it into something more. Um I've done that before where like I got a like a folder with uh like for when we were doing passage, um the song The Pros The Proslights was a s was a s was a song that I had riffs kind of in an old folder where I I like those, you know, like those certain riffs and I wanted to use them, so I kind of brought them back and kind of arranged them and and tried to you know create something out of it. You know, that was kind of the last minute thing on that album. It wasn't really originally gonna be on the album.

SPEAKER_00

Well, so you're always uh brainstorming, you're always putting things together, riffs and ideas, huh?

SPEAKER_01

And a lot of times, you know, what I'll do is I'll like I'll have like the song the like we'll have four or five songs we're working on, and I'll make a CD with those four or five songs, and then I'll make like a mixtape of like other bands and like new stuff that I haven't heard before, classic bands that I have heard, and like old, you know, Black Sabbath or Judas Priest or whatever. I mix it all up, you know, where I like I listen to kind of everything, so it'll you know be a little bit interesting, but a lot of times I drive around and I come up with lyrics, I come up with song titles, and just listen to the song a bunch of times to where if like you know, certain riffs, I'll get sick of the riff after, you know, a week of listening to it, they you know, I need to change that, get rid of that part and make that part better, you know. So a lot of a lot of stuff that I fix is you know from driving around. Because I like I said, I go down to my parents a lot, it's like an hour and a half each way. So like I'll use that time, even though it's like the time that you would normally lose just driving. I'll use that time to like work on the music and work on lyrics and those kind of ideas.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Talk about a gift. I mean, uh there's people that they grab a guitar and or or drumsticks and you can't come up with nothing, you know. You you're you're constantly coming up with ribs and putting things together.

SPEAKER_01

I try to I try to be I try to be disciplined. There are times when you know I'm just not set up for it, or it's just not I'm not feeling it, you know. So there are those times, I you know, but then other times, you know, like like when I came up with those four songs, you know, it was just like I was inspired and I all those four songs were pretty much written within a two-day, three-day period, you know.

SPEAKER_00

There's an interview where uh Robert Trujillo from Metallica says that uh whenever Hetfield grabs a guitar, this guy's just spewing out ideas, you know, these this stuff's coming out of his mind, you know, all these everything he plays is like what is that kind of you know? So that's gotta be a gift. You have that too. It's a talent right there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I can usually come up with if I need to come up with a riff, I can come up with one, you know. Wow, uh it's discipline, you know, it's just forcing yourself to play and then you know, capturing it. You know, back in the day when we were younger, we didn't have machines to to record like that, you know. So we would play a riff and then the next day we would have to remember the riff yesterday, and it wouldn't be the same necessarily, you know, it would be a little bit different, and um slowly you would make that into something, but you know, we didn't have that luxury when we were younger, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe a cassette player here and there too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, you'd have that, but a lot of times you wouldn't be thinking about it, you know, and you you just go in the band room and play and you know how's that riff go again?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Things change now. The technology is just yeah nowadays. Screams from beneath the surface leak. Uh what's behind that title? Uh album drops March 13th, uh for people listening, right?

SPEAKER_01

Right, yeah. Um I really kind of came up with this recently, but uh the kind my kind of idea for it now is that you know, you I want you to kind of dig beneath the surface of the album, you know, and kind of and really like give it, you know, not just listen to it one time and think, oh, this sucks, you know. Like give it a few little, you know, because I understand, you know, people's attention spans are very short these days. And, you know, the TikTok generation and all this stuff, you know, they they they're used to watching 30-second videos and moving on to the next. Scroll, scroll, scroll. I'm guilty of it just like the next guy, you know. I I find myself, you know, I'll get locked in an Instagram hole, you know, where I've like, next thing you know, I've spent an hour fooling around on this stupid Instagram, you know, looking at dog pictures or whatever. But uh, so the idea is to kind of give it, you know, listen to it listen to the album a bunch and kind of dig beneath the surface of the album. And I think there's some, you know, there's there's a lot of layers to the album once you dig into it and really, you know, yeah, you heard it the first time, but you know, now you, you know, maybe the tenth list and you finally hear something you didn't pick up on the first time. And uh that's kind of one of the things one of one of the I was talking in another interview about how you know you go and you you maybe you buy an album for that you you've heard this the song on the radio, so you go and buy the album and you really like that song, but then after listening to that song ten times or 15 times, all of a sudden you don't like that song anymore. You like this other song instead. That's the killer song. Yeah. And you know, after a month or two, you don't even hate that first song that you listen to. You don't even like it at all anymore, you know. It's true. The B cut that you listen to, the tenth song or the ninth song, or whatever it is that you really didn't even like at the first time you heard it. Now all of a sudden that's the best song on the album. You know, how many times does that happen? So, you know, it's just the idea is to kind of dig beneath the surface a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Some people, some people might be attracted to uh track number five instead of the the the video single.

SPEAKER_01

For sure, you know, yeah, like the video bring them in, but then you know, by the time you know they don't even like that song anymore, they like this, you know, track ten or seven or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah. Uh another Metallico story, I'm a Metallico fan, obviously. Uh the band was supposed to release Don't Trade On Me off the black album, supposedly, uh as a first single. And that was that's their vote, that's what they wanted. And uh uh Bob Rock was like, Nope, it's uh enter Sandman. Sandman, right? And they're like, No, you're wrong, Bob. It's don't trade on me.

SPEAKER_01

So you never know who who likes white or yeah, yeah, like um, we were gonna do a different song first, actually. And uh it was gonna be one of the main singles, but it was just not gonna be first. Um, but it it Metal Blade suggested doing this one first, and the more I thought about it, it was like, yeah, that's a good idea, and it just it seemed to make sense.

SPEAKER_00

So this is your your second album with Metal Blade Lee. If I'm correct, um it's actually our four.

SPEAKER_01

The way we did it, you know, I have my own label, Conquest Music, and we would release it in Conquest in America, and then use Metal Blade for Europe. Oh Rise to Power and Spiritual Apocalypse. I did not know that well. Yeah, so um, so I will I've always done my and now we've just licened, you know, it's still under Conquest Music. My label kind of handles like we got everything together, pay for the studio time, handle, you know, making the videos and do all that, and then we license it to Metal Blade. But uh so we we kind of do all the work beforehand as far as that goes. And then uh it's now it's what it comes down to is ownership of the of the album, you know. A lot of our contemporaries, like obituary and de a side, they they have no control over their over their early career, you know, like the early albums that they did, just because the way the record business was, where they, you know, they make you sign your life away. That's true. And uh so when when I formed my label, kind of one of the things was that you know I wanted to retain ownership. And this way, you know, every few, every so often the albums revert back to the band, and we can make decisions, you know, hey, you know, it's working and we're gonna keep going, or hey, maybe it's not working, we're gonna do something else. And that way we're you know not stuck into a situation where we have no control over what happens with our music.

SPEAKER_00

These are things that people don't know, like regular fans, you know, uh ownership of your albums and songs and all that, huh? With the labels, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, we're just fortunate that Metal Blade's willing to work with us like that, you know. They could easily just say, hey, no, we're gonna go work with another band that that will sign over their lives, you know, or whatever, sign you know.

SPEAKER_00

Wow, that's just uh that that's not right, but well, I guess business is business, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's business, you know. Um we're just fortunate that you know, I think we got a track record at this point that people, you know, know we're you know, that we're gonna deliver a good album, and so that I think uh we're we're uh uh allowed that discretion, so to speak. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I just interviewed uh Chuck Bailey from Testament. Uh cool. Last last weekend he was talking about that same same stuff that he just they just barely got ownership of uh Souls of Black uh from from that label.

SPEAKER_01

I can only imagine, you know, with a a major label like Atlantic or whatever that I think they were on Atlantic. Yeah, I can't even imagine, you know, how the struggled that, you know, lawyers and all god, I can't imagine.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so well anyway, so thank you for the class. Uh the stuff uh behind the scenes business stuff that fans don't know. Right. So what is the first step in uh preparing for a tour? Uh Lee, you guys got a you guys have a big European tour coming up here? What's the first step here? Uh make sure the visas are intact, or what where's the first step here?

SPEAKER_01

Uh well, yeah, everybody, you know, I have a folder with everybody's passport in it, and then I try to keep up, you know, every two months, like look over and make sure nobody's expired. Because I have had that happen. We hit the I actually had it happen twice with the same member where we show up at the airport and then all of a sudden we got to cancel the show because we can't fly. Oh, yeah. So and you know, it was bad enough happening once, but when it happened the second time, I was like, oh man, this is for too much. Uh anyway, um, yeah, so I try to stay on top of that as far as you know getting everybody's passports, making sure everybody's caught up. Um we're pretty lucky in the fact that uh you know everybody's responsible and and you know stays on top of it themselves. But uh beyond that, you know, the next thing is working on the set list, deciding what songs we want to play, kind of getting everybody on board with that. Um we're actually going right now, the last day and a half, last two days, we've and we'll be doing it tomorrow and maybe you know for the until next week. But uh going over the merchandise that we're gonna sell in Europe and we have to get that going now. We have a uh printing company over in Europe that handles it, and uh, but we have to have plenty of lead time to get it all filled, you know, to get the get so they have time to get it all printed. And you know, it's decisions, you know, unfortunately that we have to make, you know, uh, you know, well well, what'd we sell last time? And you know, are we sold you know 150 of these shirts? Are we gonna be able to, are they still gonna buy them, or did they buy them all and that's you know, we're gonna get over there and they're not gonna sell this time because everybody already bought them, you know, there's that theory um that we have to work through, and uh, you know, coming up with like the new merch for the new album, you know, like what what designs do we want to do and and that kind of thing. So um a lot of things to fix and organize, huh? Yeah. And uh bunch of stuff. Just business and you know, this week's been a little tough. You know, I've been talking my my jaws hurting from doing so many interviews, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Um I'll keep it short.

SPEAKER_01

But that but that's a good thing, you know. I don't I don't mind, you know. It's a good thing that you know people you know care about the band enough to even want to talk to us, you know.

SPEAKER_00

We're well yeah, you guys you guys are badass. You guys of course you guys monstrosity all the way, of course. Oh yeah. We're having I got this uh uh one more question before I let you go, uh Lee. How do you see the future of metal? Uh do you see any uh young bands out there, uh up-and-comers, you know, teenagers that might carry the flag, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Definitely, definitely. Um I see it, you know. All you know, I I was somebody asked me in the last interview that I did where um, you know, where I see it, you know, that it that it wasn't it's not the heyday that it used to be, but actually it kind of is because if you look at a lot of the bands, our contemporaries, obituary, cannibal corpse, you know, everybody's still on the rise, you know. They're playing bigger shows than they've ever played. You know, when Cannibal plays here, you know, they played here with Mashuga not too long ago. They're playing in an arena, you know. Wow. So like, you know, that's you know, everything's getting bigger and bigger, even for us, you know, as a band, our shows are getting bigger and the the crowds are growing. Now with YouTube and streaming, a lot, you know, people are exposed to our music easier. And so that's you know, it's it's a bad thing as far as the you know, the money, maybe as far as selling records, you know, it's it's it's harder to sell actual physical vinyls and CDs and stuff. But back in the day, back in '92, '93, four or five, band or fans would have to go out and buy our record, and they didn't hear us unless they did that. You know, maybe they got a cassette tape with their buddy and they would exchange it, but it was a lot harder to be exposed as a band, you know. Whereas now, you know, anybody can go on Spotify, they can listen to 20 seconds of our band and they like it or they don't like it. You know, they can move on to the next, just like we were talking about with the whole TikTok thing. And I do the same thing. I'll check, you know, I check out a lot of bands, you know, I'll give them a shot, you know, oh, I'll see on Blabbermouth, X, Y, Z band, whatever, come out with a new song, you know, and I'll just I won't even listen to the song. I'll just download it, put it in a folder. And then when I mix those, make those mixed CDs that I was telling you about, I'll just throw a song on the mixed CD and I don't I won't even know who it is, and I'll listen to it a few times without even knowing what it is. You know, and sometimes it sucks, and I'll just fast forward and you know, this sucks, you know, whatever. But sometimes I'll find bands where I've like I might have been put off by their band name, you know, but because I'd listened to it without hearing the band name first, maybe oh, this is actually pretty cool. What was that? Oh, this is that new whatever uh you know, Fallujah or something, you know. Oh, that's kind of cool, this is different, or this is that new uh whatever band, you know. Yeah, there's a lot of you know, you know, oh that's that defeated sanity or yeah, you know what I mean, where you not where just things that I would I might have missed or whatever, just being able to download songs like that from uh YouTube, you know. They you know, they have the 4K to YouTube download or thing, and I'll just download a song, you know, and throw it in a folder and won't even think about it for maybe a month, but then later on, you know, oh I'll put that on and make a little mixtape, you know.

SPEAKER_00

It's really easy for people to find music, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. It's you know, it it's it there's too many bands, you know, there you could argue, but you know, there's a lot of good stuff too. You know, there's good and bad in everything. So you just gotta dig through it, but that's the beauty of it is at least we have the option now, you know. Back then, just think how many times, you know, when you were a kid, how many times did you go to the record store and you just bought the album because the cover looked cool? Yeah, you had no idea what it, you know, and sometimes you get home and oh that thing sucks, get this thing out of here, you know. Or sometimes you'd end up with a gem, you know, you get the battery record or the you know, some cool thing that you weren't expecting, you know.

SPEAKER_00

And uh it's very important. The covers are very important. Yeah, you know, even to this day, man. You gotta you gotta check out your covers too sometimes. Thank you, Lee. Thank you for your time. Uh I'll let you rest. There's a bunch of interviews, and I appreciate your time, man. Yeah, I've been going since noon, man. Oh wow. Get some rest, and uh, we'll see you tomorrow in Texas Lee. Thank you. Take care, have a good weekend, man. And that was Lee Harrison for you guys from the band Monstrosity from the awesome state of Florida, where many, many death metal bands come from. And this band, Monstrosity, just dropped an album on March 13th, 2026, by the name of Screams From Beneath the Surface, which I highly uh recommend. Check it out, Metal Blade Records presented. We thank Lee for returning to the show to present the band's latest album. As I said, the title Screams From Beneath the Surface, an awesome monster drummer, underrated, to say the least. So check that out monstrosity guys, and thank you guys for supporting the podcast over the years, and thank you for downloading, streaming, sharing, blah blah blah on behalf of your friend James from the powerful state of Texas and the US of A on planet Earth. Thank you, and don't forget to keep it on that.