In 1980 Rick and Kay Warren started in their living room what is today Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, CA. 37 years later Kay can look back and see the best of times and the worst of times. She and her husband Rick have been great examples to other pastors and wives of how to let God use both your strengths as well as your greatest pain in life to prepare you to love and serve others. Kay Warren joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about mental illness and the church. How do we equip our congregations to become mental illness literate? Kay describes what her dream church would look like if she could snap her fingers and make it happen! There is a little humor and a lot of seriousness around this very sobering topic. Let’s admit it, our churches should be the friendliest, most helpful, most encouraging spaces for people with mental illness. In this episode Kay will give you a plan to help your church arrive at just such a place!