Affairs gone bad! "Little Children" (2006) is less about children, and more about childish adults. Kate Winslet and Patrick Wilson give masterful performances as a cheating couple. Don't miss Jackie Earle Haley's (Bad News Bears) acting return. "The Housemaid" (2010) is our latest South Korean film, and it doesn't disappoint. As much about an affair as it is a condemnation of the ruling class. Let us know what you think of the ending.
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Affairs gone bad! "Little Children" (2006) is less about children, and more about childish adults. Kate Winslet and Patrick Wilson give masterful performances as a cheating couple. Don't miss Jackie Earle Haley's (Bad News Bears) acting return. "The Housemaid" (2010) is our latest South Korean film, and it doesn't disappoint. As much about an affair as it is a condemnation of the ruling class. Let us know what you think of the ending.
Next, Blowout (1981) and Deep Red (1975)
Have your own recommendations? Contact the show:
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Uno. Uno. Dos. Welcome to Tooth the Road Movies with Matt and Adam. I'm Matt and I'm Adam. We are a movie pairing podcast. We pick a theme. Recommend a movie to the other guy he has not seen based on that theme. Watch and discuss. And we have a 25 year age difference so we bring different films to the show. That's what we do. Uh so what's the theme this week, Matt? It was uh. I was thinking it was uh uh affairs gone bad. Yeah. Yeah. Or it could be men are **** Uh okay. Interesting take on the first movie. Like I don't. Are we blaming the man in the first movie? We're blaming everybody in that one I think. You know, they're all little children. I don't think they met the kids. No, right. Alright so. That's the name of our movie anyways. Guess what? What's the first movie? Little Children. Alright uh Little Children 2006. This is uh Todd Fields who just gained a bunch of fame for doing Tar which is a movie that I've only heard of and based on what I know of it and I will probably never watch. I'll probably never watch it either. Um I got an interesting story about him. Alright. Is he owe you money? No, I wish. Rory and I were watching um this documentary called the battering bastards of baseball. It's about uh uh a independent minor league team in the 70s. It was owned by Kurt Russell's dad and through the whole film, they're interviewing some of the players and they interviewed the Bat Boy and you know who actually got thrown out of a game for yelling at the umpires and stuff and I'm watching this and I see the name and it's Todd Field. He was the Bat Boy for this team. Oh really? Yeah. Wow. What year was this? Well, the the nineteen seventy four I think. So, I mean, it's in the early 70s. So, he's the Bat Boy that got thrown out of the game. Right, right and it's Todd Field and because he's really articulate and he's funny and I'm going, wow, this guy, I wonder what this guy ended up doing and I might notice Todd Field. Yeah. Just made a couple fantastic movies. Right, right. That's all. Yeah. So, interesting is like he like, I don't know, 16 year gap between this movie and Tar. It's quite a gap. Was he writing? He was producing a couple things. Yeah. But yeah, that's weird. It is weird. I wonder what he was in jail. That Bat Boy rep finally caught up to him. I think he wrote Eyes Wide Shut before he was. But that was before this. Oh yeah, it was, wasn't it? This is 2006. It's not, I mean, it wasn't that long ago. Oh yeah, it's in 1999. So, yeah, I don't know what he was. But yeah, like sixteen year gap is kind of a uh because I mean, this wasn't, this movie's not a flop, right? I mean, this movie wasn't like. No. I mean, maybe it maybe wasn't like a box office smash but it definitely must have been recognized critically. I think it was. You know, actually my boy Eber gave it two and a half stars. You know what? Yeah. Boy Eber can just go suck an egg. He. Where were you when you first watched this? What we what was going on in your life? 2006. Uh I think I just met Gloria. Oh. And we watched it together the other night. She loved it. Which kind of surprised me but. Okay. Budget twenty-six million worldwide gross fourteen million. Womp womp. Okay. There we go. That's the sixteen year gap. Yeah. He was also well he did talk at Carnival. He directed it but he he was also an actor. He's done a lot of acting. Forty-one credits. So, that's what he's been doing. Yeah. I guess I mean pays the bills. He looks familiar. Well, I think he's gonna get another movie now after the uh. I think so. I think you know. Yeah, I'm not interested in seeing that movie for some reason. A movie about a fake composer. See, I was mistaken when when I was watching this. Mm hmm. I looked up to you. I'm like, oh, it's the tar guy. Mm hmm. And then I thought Kate Winslet was in tar. Mm hmm. I was like, I'm definitely gonna watch that. What's the other Kate? It's Kate Blanchett. Yeah, Blanchett. Who I have like new I I have no. Yeah. She doesn't move my needle one way or the other. No. I don't I couldn't even pick her. I mean, if she came in and sat down, I wouldn't know who she was. I think I remember her. Oh, she was in that George Clooney movie where he was the fixer. What was that? Wasn't he? She I can't remember now. Wasn't that a Swinton? Oh, that was Tilda Swinton. Yeah. I don't know why I get it mixed up. I don't know. Thin English or Australian actresses, I guess. I don't know. Thin blonde brits. Dime a dozen these days. They're taking over Hollywood. Um alright, so Little Children. Right. Upon your second viewing. Loved it. Loved it. I I especially like the first half. Yeah. This first half's much stronger than the second half. I think. Both of these movies suffer from the same problem. Most of all, stronger first halves than second halves is that there's like this crucial moment between like conflict and resolution where all the characters make completely **** bat **** crazy decisions. Every one of them. And you're like, why would anyone do that? It's just everybody in the world just makes a bad decision. Everyone just loses their mind. Right. In both these movies, everyone just loses their mind and then the end. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, cuz this one starts off the first 40 minutes or so. It's so good. The the voiceover. Good voiceover. Who is the voiceover guy? He's the guy from from PBS. Uh what's that show that's does uh they investigate things. It's like a Monday nights. I can't remember what it is now. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Cuz I thought he was like, I was like, is this the NFL Films guy? Cuz it sounds like, you know, like uh the the frozen tundra. You know, it kinda sounded like he was like about to tell me about like this, you know, magnificent Green Packers game or something. Yeah, I I thought it sounded like the guy from like uh but he's also an actor. Oh, Frontline. He's done 188 episodes for voiceovers for Frontline. The great PBS show. So, yeah. His name is Will Lyman. Interesting choice to grab him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wonder what was behind that. I don't know about it was perfect. That first scene when you when she's sitting on the bench at the park. Yeah. And he starts talking about, you know, some study study of suburban women or something. It was just perfect. Well, I first was like worried that I was like, oh no, this is gonna be like uh Paul Thomas Anderson ripoff. Yeah. It was my first vibe and then it wasn't. No. It got it got better and it got more interesting. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's an interesting movie. It's got great actors. You know, Kate Winslet is is so good in this. Yeah, I think I think I might have to like like her stock is like rising in my estimation. Like she was she was in Cate Blanchett territory like two years ago. Right. Right. But after like Mayor of Easttown um was it Heavenly Creatures? This you know, it's like oh I think uh she's pretty good. She's got something. She's most famous for Titanic which sucks which I've never seen. Yeah. Again, no real interest. Yeah. Like whatever. I'm sure it's great. Whatever. Just it's fine. I think it's one of those movies where like I think if you go back and watch it, you're gonna be like what? Yeah. But I think in the moment, maybe it was like a little bit more uh like grand. Oh yeah, it was huge and she was huge and she earned DiCaprio. I guess had a pretty good rapport but what are you insinuating Matt? No, I'm not. What are you trying to say? No, no. I'm just saying that you know they were good together but I just didn't like the movie. You know so but she's pretty much good in everything she does, I think. It's true. I don't I don't know if she has any stinkers. I might have to go uh kind of round out her catalog a little bit. Yeah, another good one for her is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Yeah, never seen it. Okay. I have to visit that one. Yeah. The well that's Jim Carrey, right? Right. Yeah, like I don't know. It's like is that um Andy Kaufman or not Andy Kaufman but uh Charlie Kaufman? Charlie Kaufman. Yeah, I don't know. His stuff is just like I don't know. Like I just don't connect to it. I'm just like when I watch this stuff, I'm just I always think like fuck this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Which doesn't make any sense. Like I'm sure he's a nice person but I just have like it's some kind of weird animosity towards. It was good. I liked it and she was great in it but I like her pretty much everything. Also in the cast is Jennifer Connelly. Yeah. Uh Patrick Wilson. You know, he's just. Who is he? Like this Tom Brady looking motherfucker. Yeah. He does look like Tom Brady. Like he was great in this. Yes, he is. Like I mean perfect, perfect, perfect casting. Mm hmm. But like what else was he? I was like I was like was this guy like Rachel's boyfriend on Friends or something but that was someone else. No, no. That was like uh Tate, Tatum, Tatney, Tate O'Neal. I don't know. Some other dude. I don't know. He's I mean I was looking at his what he's famous for. Phantom of the Opera. I've never saw that. Hard Candy which is pretty good. About a about a teenage girl who takes revenge on molesters. A molester. He's the molester. He's the molester. Okay. Uh Watchman. Never seen that. Uh who's in that? I've seen it. Dan Draper. Night Owl. Okay. I don't know. But uh I remember him because his father when I was living in Florida, his father was the guy who did the news on channel three every night. Uh Dan Wilson I think or something. What is his name? And that's I don't know. He always talked about his son the actor. He does look like a son of a newscaster. He does. He was wonderful in this. Like I said, he was perfect. Like from the minute he gets on the screen, he's just like like you like you just know everything about this dude. The Prom King. Yep. That was his nickname, The Prom King. And he wore it well. And most of all, Jackie Earl Haley. Yeah, man. Like he was wow. He was nominated for best supporting actor. I wonder who do you know who beat him? Uh yeah. I'll look at the way that way he's talking. Um so yeah, he was a uh he was interesting because he's kind of forgotten, right? It wasn't like it wasn't like he was like working a much before this. I don't think so. I mean, it was Bad News Bears. Yep. Bad News Bears is the second one. Tokyo. Yeah, Tokyo. That bicycle movie. At that time, he's got a beard. Things in that bicycle movie. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Breaking away. Breaking away. Then nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. Hey, he could be a pedophile in my movie. Well, he did after this, he did Shutter Island with. Who was he in that? I don't I don't remember the movie very much. Oh, that's a great one. I think I watched it when I was really stoned one night. Uh yeah, he was working a little bit. You know, he's yeah, he wasn't working much until that. I don't think. Yeah. Yeah, he went from 1993 to 2006. Nothing. Nothing. He's catching that breaking away check. Right. Yeah. So, a couple of award misses. Kate Winslet lost to Helen Mirren for the queen. Please. I mean, Helen Mirren was fine. Yeah. What? And I love her but you know. I mean, she didn't have a chance this year. If it wasn't going to Helen Mirren, it was going to, it wasn't going to Kate Winslet. Judy Dench and Nose on a Scandal. Right. Meryl Streep and the Devil Wears Prada, which is a dumb movie but it's Meryl Streep. And then Penelope Cruz and Vulver. That's a mold of our movie. Yeah. Oh, you know who uh. It's probably Denzel Washington or something. I know. He was up against Eddie Murphy, Dream Girl. Uh Mark Wahlberg in The Departed. Uh Jimon Honsu in Blood Diamond. The movie that. Yeah, yeah. DiCaprio. I think it's very forgotten, right? Yeah, yeah. At least I forgot it. And then uh the winner was Alan Arkin in Little Miss Sunshine. Which is a good movie but. But Alan Arkin was Alan Arkin. Right. It's also a movie where you're like, oh, this is sweet. This this movie uh Little Children, you're like, oh, this is dark. This is really dark. His character is really dark. Yeah, this is getting at something. Yeah, yeah. I mean, his, he was, I mean, for a guy who was out of the business for all those years, he comes back and makes this film. I remember seeing him at the Academy Awards. He just, he just looked like he was so out of place. But it was great that people gave him, you know, big ovation and stuff. So. And he was perfect for this role because um obviously he's a good actor but just like the way he looks. Like cuz he's like, he's just creepy and like he's but he's also tiny. Yeah. So he's like this weird mix of like old man face, tiny body, and it just really just, it doesn't quite match. So it seems like so, it's like disorienting just looking at him. Right. Especially in that scene where he's swimming. It's like, it's, I mean, this is gross. Right. You know, to watch him swim. All I wanna do is cool off. Right. But I, and one thing about this movie had a lot of really good character actors. The the woman who played his mother, Phyllis Somerville, she she was wonderful. And the the loser ex-cop who's in a lot of movies, Noah Emmerich. They're the people you see but you don't know their names. Right. But uh yeah. So had a lot going for it, this movie. And and I think it delivered. For sure. Yeah. So let's get into a little bit of the plot and then we can pause if anything if you wanna call it anything. Okay. So we said the movie opens with we kinda get to know these characters. Kate Winslet is a married woman with a child who she kind of resents because the child is a little bit of an, you know, not not like a terrible kid but just a little bit hard to handle. Uh you know. She's odd or something. She doesn't play with other children. Doesn't wanna get in the car seat. Just just you know, just little kid shit, right? Not ready to be a mom for one thing. Right. Didn't wanna be a mom. Yeah, didn't wanna be. And she's married to a guy who haven't met yet but we just know that he's there. He's he's never in the picture yet. Right. She goes to the park every day cuz there's nothing else to do. Oh, by the way, what, where do you think they were in the in the country? It was in New England. Was it? It was in Connecticut. Did they say that? Mm hmm. Okay. Yeah. At some point. Okay. I wasn't sure. Okay. I guess I mean, that checks out. Mm hmm. It's like a ritzy enough area where yeah, this house is check out. Okay. So she's going to the park. Like you said, we can kinda get this like sociological study of like these women and like. Three other women on a bench and they're just talking and just nonsense. You know, yuppie nonsense. Right. Very small lives. Right. And they're they kind of like, you know, gaze upon this guy who goes to the other park side of the park every day with his son and they they have all these like fantasies about him but like they've never spoken to him. Right. They even put on makeup and dress, you know, nice when when he shows up but he he disappeared for a couple months or something. So, they stop putting on makeup, right? Yeah. And he comes back and they freak out and this is when Kate Winslet sees him. And they call him the prom king. That's his nickname. So, eventually, on one day, Kate Winslet says, you know, I'm gonna go talk to him. You know, so they bet her like five bucks. She won't go do it. She goes over there and there's get his number. Right. So, she gets his kind of chats with him. She just seems like a regular nice guy. Studying for the bar. Yeah. Doesn't seem very bright. No. But doesn't seem mean. No. Right? Just a kind kind of like. I think he kinda knows who he is. Yeah. Up to this point, life's been pretty easy for me and I'm just kinda riding it. I'm a good looking guy and I got a great looking wife. She makes the money. She makes the money and I take care of the kid. She's a little bit controlling. Yes. But you know. Who wouldn't be in that situation? No one's perfect. So, Kate Winslet ends up kissing him in like kind of an awkward way and like he doesn't like resist. He's just sort of into it. Mm hmm. And then they kinda break. The women lose their minds. They all jump off. Grab their kids. Covering their kid's eyes. Yeah, yeah. Seemed a bit of a strong reaction. Yeah, I think so. One of them says, I mean, you know, you let your daughter see that or something. Right. You know, they're all just they're not people you would wanna hang out with anyways. For sure. Because they're shallow. So, that happens and then that kind of sets them both kind of in like they're kinda spinning separately, right? Like, what did that mean? What do we do? We find out the the prom king kinda spends his day just like pretending to study for the bar. Mm hmm. But he's watching these skater punks do their skateboarding thing and he just sits there and gocks at him. And he's one thought in his head with the breaks in and says, that could be me. That could have been me. Yeah. Doing all these skateboard tricks. You know. Oh my god. Yeah. So. So then we know he's just a child. Yeah. Right. He's just not really not seeing the big picture. Mm hmm. He's a great dad. Well. Sort of. Also kind of resents his kid because his kid wears his jester hat all the time. Oh yeah. Yeah. God damn it. So, other than that, seems like a pretty decent guy. Mm hmm. Kate Winslet is having trouble with her marriage. Her husband is kind of getting increasingly attracted to this internet woman. Yeah. To the point of like ordering her panties to put on his face while he masturbates. Right. Which is. Okay. A level beyond. I mean it's like. Yeah. It's all that went what? You never know what turns people on. That's for sure. You know you hear people selling their panties and you wonder what and why and now. Now we know. Yeah. Yeah. Questions answered. And she catches him of course. Yeah. And they're already kind of on the outs because he just works all the time. Doesn't give a **** about the kid or. Right. Her. He's clearly not interested in having sex with her. He's. No. Like cuz it's like you know. Like and you get married right? You see that person all the time. It's something new. Exciting. This woman. I forget what her name was. It was something dumb. Like. Yeah. Anyway I can't remember what it was but just like kind of like Christine XXX or something. And so he's interested in her. At the same time. What's his name? Jackie Earl Haley. Yeah. Mm hmm. He's a pedophile who's moved into the neighborhood. Some. Living with his mom. Some people are putting up flyers, forming a committee. This ex cop is. Yeah. And he's got his own past. That we don't know about yet. Uh the ex cop ropes in the prom king to be the quarterback of their like you know weekly night touch football league. Yeah so a bunch of cops that play in this didn't look like touch to me but. Yeah it seemed pretty vicious. It was pretty vicious. Which makes sense. You get a bunch of dudes and. Yeah yeah. Probably had a couple beers before and. Yeah. Of course it's gonna happen. Uh and eventually Kate Winslet and the prom king start having an affair. They hook up at the pool. Yep. And they don't really care about I mean they're not making out or anything but they're hanging out every day. Right. At the pool with their kids. So they're not really hiding anything. Nope. Then eventually like they get physical. Right. And then we get a lot of them getting physical. Right. There's a lot of sex. Yeah I was surprised it was gonna it was gonna be so um to show so much. Yeah. You know I thought it would be a little more artistic. Mm hmm. But no they're just banging in like the laundry room. Yeah. It looks like what. Yeah they're. It sounds like. They're doing any attic, the laundry room, any place the kids can't see or something. Right. Cuz your kids are napping at the. Yes. I thought those kids were gonna like squeal on them but the kids were cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. They didn't say until later I think. Well they kinda. They just sort of innocently say yeah it's a it's not always so his dad is with us you know blah blah blah my friend. But the jig is really up when they have a dinner party. Yes. When both the couples come together. Right. This is a life rule Matt. I've lived my life by this. Never be in a room with two women that that you've slept with. Yes. There's no reason for it. Never do it. It's not a good idea. It'll never happen to me. That's like mathematically it's not. It's not gonna happen. It's not in the cards. No. And so that's when the prom king's wife kind of catches on that like why is Kate Winslet so interested in like why does she know why is she asking questions to like to kind of like reveal that they've had like these conversations that. Mm hmm. She herself is not really privy to like she doesn't know what this guy does all day. And she has no idea. Kate Winslet does. She thinks she does. Yeah. But he he he just lies all day. Well he says we go to the park. Yeah. And she's she's like okay whatever. But now she finds out that like oh he's having like thoughts you know like you know he's like revealing like his dreams and his goals to like this this woman like what the fuck. Yeah. And she puts it all together like instantly. And that was a really great scene. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have Winslet's husband just like jabbering on. He doesn't know anything's going on. But he seemed like a nice guy. It's not you know panty jacking off the side. Yeah yeah. He seemed like a nice guy. Doing it at work. Well. Yeah that's kind of weird. You know that is again a bridge too far. Yeah yeah. Just reel it in bro you be a little cool. So the jig is kind of up. The the two make a plan to. Well first of all she she has her mother come. Oh right. So it kind of puts the kibosh to the old pool thing. You know hanging out at the pool for a while. Then going to her house and having sex. That doesn't happen anymore. That's pretty much stopped. Hard to have sex with your mother-in-law around. Yeah. So that was Michael's one of the questions. Did the wife do that intentionally. Was she like. Oh yes. Throw in the throw in the block. Remember she didn't want her to come. At first. They had a phone conversation earlier in the movies. You know mom I'm OK. Everything's going. I don't need I don't need your money. I don't need you. I need you. My husband's banging. Do you think she told the mom that. I think she said like come over. I think there was some sort of a acknowledgement maybe. It was like you need to hang out with him. OK. I couldn't tell if she was just a like a needy person or if she was like actually like like on the clock checking him out. I think she was on the clock. All right. Well either way. Yeah. So she's kind of getting in the way. They do still manage to see each other. Kate once it comes to his touch football game where he like throw. He runs and scores the winning touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't. They didn't win the league or anything. But they just won their last game. That was the only game I think they won. Yeah. The worst team that beat the best team. Right. Right. Much like our botchy glory. Yeah. Yeah. So after that they kind of make a plan. Let's run away together. Meanwhile the cop is frustrated because his buddies not celebrating with him. He's kind of drunk. He doesn't have much going on. He's pissed off. So he's like I'm going to go harass that pedophile. Right. Great scene. Goes out in the street banging on his door trying to get kind of like raise all kind of hell. Waking the neighbors. Neighbors come out and they're like dude go home. Right. Like let this guy live. Right. You know what I mean. Like just what. The mother comes out. Mother comes out screaming at him. He's screaming at her. He kind of pushes her away. She falls. We don't know. She might be dead. She may not be dead. So she goes to the hospital. Jackie Earl Haley goes after her. And you know that's when things kind of start to unravel. Right. Right. These two lovers make a plan to escape Jackie Earl Haley. Yeah. And in the meantime he he was supposed to go take his bar exam and took off with Kate Winslet for the weekend instead. How do you explain that to your wife? Go and take the bar. I mean how do you explain it after you didn't do it? Because she'll never know. Right. Yeah. I didn't pass. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I guess so. Because the bar is it's like the perfect choice because it is like a two day exam. Right. Right. It's like two four hour days or something. So you would have to like sleep over somewhere to do it. So I guess it makes sense. Right. I don't. The whole cheating thing is not my game. You know. Yeah. Just just leave her. Yeah. Or divorce her. Right. Why why sneak around? But it was interesting that they did finally get to like spend the night together and in that car ride where they're like they finally like meet up at this train station. They're leaving. You kind of get a glimmer that like the prom king is like I don't know about this. Right. Right. He's worried. Like I'm going from one woman I'm not happy with to this other woman who's like you know she was like so into him and he's like huh. Yeah. It's a bit of a turn off. The sex is great but. What is this? There's nothing. There's not really anything between them because she's a pretty smart. Yeah. You know. There's a piece of the English Lit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love the book club scene. Oh. Call it out. Yeah. That was a really nice. Well what what did they read? Madame Boulvery. Madame Boulvery and the one woman from the park is there. The most outspoken woman from the park and she doesn't like Kate Winslet. Right. So they're the two youngest ones there and there's there's three or four older ones there who read it. They're talking back and forth and she's you know the woman from the park says this is trash. It's no good. And then Kate Winslet tried to explain to her what it was about. It was a feminist book and all this stuff and she's not having any of it but and all the older women are going yeah yeah I like that. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a good scene. That was a good scene. A lot a lot of a lot of slut shaming going on in that scene. Yeah. Like kind of on the down low. So the two come back. They make a plan. They're gonna leave their respective families. Jackie Earl Haley finds out his mother's dead. He does not handle it well. Goes home. Wrecks the house. His mother had all these little figurines. Yeah. I can't remember what they're called. I'll think of it a second. And they a lot of clocks. A lot of ticking going on in that house. It's like a time bomb. Yeah. And so he uh he wrecks shop and she left him a note that just said like be a good boy. Yeah. And so he kind of freaks out. He grabs a knife. We don't know what's going on. Yeah. In the meantime, Kate Winslet and Prom King have made a plan to meet at the park to take off together. Kate Winslet's there. This is what everyone loses their mind. Prom King never makes it. Prom King decides he is going to stop and uh try to ollie down some stairs. Right. Grind on a rail down some stairs. I think he's never done before. Right. He's never ridden a skateboard before. Right. I don't even know what makes him think that he could even like land and ollie let alone like cake flip grind down some rail. Well, I mean like early in the film, he's watching because that could have been me. Yeah. And somehow he thinks that he could do it. You know, these guys have been doing this for since they're three. So, he tries it and he gets wrecked. Mm hmm. Never shows up at the park. Never shows up at the park. She's waiting. Jackie Early, Earl Haley shows up at the park and he's in misery. You can hear him just crying and you don't really know. You know, we think it may be, I mean, I kinda it's obvious what was wrong but. I didn't know. Yeah. I didn't know. I didn't know what's gonna happen. I don't know if he's gonna. Oh, what do you think? What do you? I thought is he gonna attack somebody cuz he walks out with a knife. Yeah, yeah. So, we don't know. Yeah. But he cut his penis off. Yeah. It's the only way he could be a good boy. Cuz all through the movie, they're making references of like, we should castrate him. We should castrate him. Oh, in the meantime, the cop who's been harassing him has a change of heart. He finds out the mom's dead. He finds out the mom's dead and he feels bad. So, he goes to the house to apologize. He's not there and he goes to the park and finds him. Yeah. Sitting on the swings with pants full of blood. Yeah, he pulls down his pants and he's like, I'm a good boy now. Yeah. Yeah. Both these movies we watched had really severe endings. Yeah. Yeah. So, he takes him to the hospital. Uh Kate Winslet, you know, her daughter runs off. She finally finds her. She sort of realizes what's important in life. Heads back home. Prom King. Goes to the hospital. His wife comes and the narrator kinda just says like, you know, new beginnings. Right. You know, it's like, maybe it wasn't all so bad or something. He's like, what? Like, it's like, all these insane things happen at the very end. We're like, huh? Like, first of all, cutting off your penis. I don't know, man. Seemed like a pretty bold move. It's done. It's been, it's happened, I believe, but I don't know how anybody could do that. Yeah. Yeah. He was just a little insane. Yeah. One scene that we did not mention, which I thought was um cuz it's as you watch the movie, it's difficult. Like, you always got at least I was going back and forth. Like, do I feel bad for Jackie Earhaley? Is he a scumbag? First, you feel bad for him and he goes. I think everybody in this movie could kinda go back and forth. Then he goes to the swimming pool and you're like, he is like a dirt bag. Then he's then he's being harassed. You feel kinda bad for him. Then he goes on his weird date where he makes this woman like pull over so you can like force her to watch him masturbate. Right. And you're like. After she had the worst date of her life, six years before that, which is our last date. Right. So he's uh you know, it kinda ends on maybe not such a good person. Right. But he shouldn't have his penis cut off. No, probably not. Yeah. But yeah, you kinda feel sorry for a little bit for pretty much everybody. Yeah. You know, you just know, you never know what anybody's going through and why they do the things they do. Right. The only person we can all equivocally dislike is the uh slut shaming Park Woman. Oh yeah, yeah. She was awful. Yeah, she's the worst. Yeah. Alright, Matt. Anything else you wanna call out from little children? Little children. Uh no, I think everybody should see it. I think it's wonderful. Todd Field made another great movie called In the Bedroom that uh you should see too so. Alright, you wanna get some scores? Yeah. Alright, IMDB, 113,000 people checking in. It's quite a lot. Seven six. You're right around there. Seven five. Okay. I did seven. I think that's right. Seven five, seven six. Yeah. Yeah, I do think this is, I think the ending kinda eh. It was a little flat for me but I didn't appreciate everything but all the performances were fantastic. Right. Um Rotten Tomatoes, let's see. We have 162 reviews on the old tomato meter. Ninety-one. Eighty. Oh. Couple of Eberts in there. He gets 200 votes. Yeah, right. Apparently uh yeah, what what was it like? Did you did you look at Ebers? He just didn't he said he didn't like any of the characters for one thing. He said it was it felt like it was trying to be uh too close to um what was it? The movie. Um American Beauty. Yeah. Oh, okay. Mm hmm. Well, that that was like there was a there was an era like 1998 to 2010 where it was like the dark side of suburbia. Right, right. The thing, right? So, that's kinda what this was. Um so, this is from the Chicago Sun Times. I didn't like any of these characters but I kept pulling for them anyway right up to the shocker ending when I felt I'd been sucker punched. That was a. That's not so bad. That was a negative review. Yeah, I know that but I mean. Sounds kinda positive. I mean, getting sucker punches in a movie, it's like, wow. Yeah. It's like being woken up. Right. I think I think there is a uh a kind of person who does not like a surprise ending like. Mm hmm. Or maybe or maybe he's saying what I was saying where it's like, why the **** would this happen? Like, it didn't like follow. Mm hmm. Based on, I mean, I understand the penis cutting off more than the skateboarding. Right. 100%. Like, that makes more sense to me than this dude going like, you know what? I think I'll do that. Well, I, the skateboard, you know, I just look at him as a child, a large child. Yeah. Mm hmm. Alright, Matt, this is the uh Critics Consensus and we'll take a break. Oh, what was the other score? Oh, I'm sorry. Uh audience, over 50,000 people, 82%. Okay. So. I think it should be higher but. Yeah, I mean, I think the critics should be higher but. Mm hmm. Audience, what are you gonna do? 82 on a run to me is. Yeah. Pretty damn good. Um alright, little children takes a penetrating look at suburbia and it's flawed individuals with an unflinching yet humane eye. Unflinching. Yeah, humane. Yeah. Alright. Um alright, Matt, take a break. Yup. Alright, we'll come back and we'll talk about the house made. Alright, and we're back with our second movie of the week. The theme being uh mothers in law really are bummers for your affair. Yeah. So, our second movie uh 2010 uh um the house made straight out of Korea. So, I saw this in the theater. Right. On a date. Odd choice. Yes. Um I regret it. Um definitely when I was watching this for the second time, did not invite my wife to watch it with me. I was like, maybe I'll just watch this movie about infidelity alone. Yeah. Um but uh yeah, what you think about? Um oh, I really liked it. Um and again, I had that ending that you just went, oh my what the hell was that? But uh yeah, I liked it. I mean, it's it could be a little slow, I think. The uh couple of the actors I really like. I like the old lady. Yeah, she's good. She's an Academy Award winner, right? She won for uh Lara. Oh, for Munari. Munari. Yeah. Yeah. She won. Yeah. But she was great in this and and I liked the little girl. I was gonna ask that like where we at on the on the kid actor. I don't even normally like kid actors. I liked her. Yeah, Nabi. She was just kind of like kind of giving everyone the side eye. She saw everything. She knew what was going on. Nabi knew what was up. Yeah. Uh what's the uh what about the uh the husband? I mean, you know this guy. Oh, you guys. Yep. Uh uh would we see him in? Well, he was in New World. Yeah. That was the guy the cop who kind of becomes a gangster and like he's undercover. He actually just kind of becomes the gangster. Mm hmm. I think most people know him for this guy from Squid Game. Squid Game. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's the main guy. Like kind of the uh goofy. I mean, everybody was good in it. I just kind of like the older woman and the kid, the best. Yeah. Fair enough. Um one of my favorite parts about this movie is like the first five minutes. Like where it's like there's it's just the camera like on um Hongdae. There's like area of Seoul which is like kind of known for like youth nightlife. Right. It's actually you see like the people doing like the karaoke and they do that like um like this like there's like the windows so like you can see them and they're kind of performing for you at the same time. Right. It's kind of a cool concept and you kind of just people hanging out. We see uh our main character like they work in a restaurant which is kind of the camera just sort of like bouncing around just kind of looking around and then we see a suicide. Yeah. And uh yeah. I wonder how they did that because it looked like I mean it looked real. I mean the suicide not real but like everyone's reaction was real. Right. So, I don't know. Drop something. Yeah. I mean, you don't actually see or hit the right hit the pavement. Sure. Uh but yeah, I don't know how. Yeah, it was good. I was immediately interested. I wanted to go there. Yeah. I have been there many times. My favorite part of that whole thing is like once this woman falls, they show like these girls up in like the and see this one girl just smoking her cigarette looking down like. Yeah. Like River's Edge is gonna ruin my night. You know? Like River's Edge, right? Like, okay, she's dead. Yeah. Who's who's got the next song? Right. Um so, yeah. Uh the movie opens up with that and then it goes from like this really like kind of vibrant nightlife to now we're just basically in a house the rest of the movie. Pretty much the rest of the movie. Yeah. It's like really opulent house. Uh the old woman comes and recruits. I gotta get all these names right. Um um uh she comes and recruits as a house maid for a pregnant woman and a very wealthy man. How do you pronounce her name? Her? Her real name? Yeah. Um I would be Jun Doyeon. Okay. So, I don't I'm not really too familiar with her. Yeah. Um I looked her up. I didn't I don't think we've seen anything. Yeah. Let me check real quick. That she was in. Um but I did recognize the older woman, you know. Right. Yeah. None of her movies are ringing a bell with me. Mm hmm. But I mean, that doesn't mean anything, right? Right, right. I mean, she could be the most famous person in South Korea right now. Like, even when I was there, I wasn't totally locked into uh like pop culture, you know? Like, she might be killing it on some TV show and who knows? I think that's where she mainly works on television. But uh yeah, I mean, she was good. Everyone's good. Like, I thought like very capable performances all around. Uh but like you said it was slow but also it jumps in really fast. It's like weird, right? The pacing was kind of. Pacing was off. Off a little bit like. Yeah. Cuz like as soon as this woman joins the household, we meet the wife who is uh uh and she's like or you know, the character is Hera and um she's like this trophy wife who's like super supremely pregnant, right? Right, right. Like, she looks like she's about to give birth to the world and she's just kind of like this like she's not mean. No. But also, she's like not really anything. She's there. She's just like flipping pages of like these like giant art books. Mm hmm. And not really looking at it. Just kind of like this is what I feel like a rich person does. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's what I'm doing. Oh, yeah. Way too much money. Way too much money. And uh never never get to know what like the husband does. Assume it's nothing good, right? Probably some kind of um high finance. And the husband comes home. Finally, it's like this big um like to do when he arrives. Everyone has to line up. Like including like the kid and the wife, right? Yep. To greet him. Everybody has to bow. Yep. He comes in. He just wants to have his glass of red wine. Yep. That's all we want. Cuz one who was pregnant. Anyways. Cuz one who was pregnant wife. Um he gets his like nightly blow job. Mm hmm. And then after a night or two, he's like, huh, I wonder how the housemaids blow job is. And like when he goes down to like propositioners, like this weird like it's almost like understood. Like when he walks in, he just looks at her. Yeah, I I don't remember if she had shown any interest in before that. I don't with like a side eye or something, you know. There was, I think there was a scene where she was like washing the bathtub. That was later. Was that later? That was later. Okay. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, he just shows up in her bedroom with a bottle of wine. Like directly after leaving his wife. Like it's a very virile man. Mm hmm. Very virile. Yeah. And he walks down and he's like, alright, you're the housemaid. You know what to do. She's into it. Yeah. Right. Like he's he's like he's like force himself on her like she's very like um eager. Yeah. You know, she's like she. Almost timid but eager. Yeah. Like like kinda like ooh, I get to like be part of this world for a moment. Yeah. And that's what it is, right? He like he comes out, he's like, you can have a taste of this drink. You can have a taste of me. Mm hmm. But you can't actually be in this world. Right. You just get a little bit and that's all you get. And then off you go. Right. Or off I go. Whatever. And uh I'll see you later maybe one night. We'll see. Yeah. And it's that's kinda like how it goes down, right? Right. Right. Um they're getting a little bit more bold with their um their. The old the elder woman. The elder woman finds out. She knows what's going on. And like. She she she knows everything. She's. Yeah. She's like her whole attitude is this place is fucked but I'm getting mine. Mm hmm. You know, like she knows how to like sneak a smoke. She knows that like I'm eating this food. It's getting thrown away. She knows that he doesn't actually know how much is in a bottle of wine. Right. So, I'm gonna pour one glass for me every night. Mm hmm. Like she's got her like she's working the angles. She is the she's she's got the angles and for some reason they keep mentioning her son as a district attorney or something. Well, I think the implication is that he's a district attorney because they made it happen. Oh. Like this. Oh, I see. This family has so much influence. Oh, I get it. Yeah. That's why when he like first says and husband says congratulations and gives her money. Mm hmm. He's really saying like you owe me. Right. That's why she's kinda pissed off when she takes it cuz she knows that like she's even more indebted to them now. Yeah. She she she she hates these people. Yeah. Yeah. Especially him. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. He she knows right away what's going on and she doesn't not like it but she didn't say anything. Yeah. And I'm I'm sure she's like, well, this happened with the last maid. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. This is what he does. This guy, you know, believes that he can get whatever he wants. As long as he's not climbing on me. Yeah. Well. Yeah. That would be. Yeah. Quite the turn. So, I mean, like you said, it is kind of a it's kind of slow. There's a lot of like just kinda like wandering through the house and we get to see Ani's kind of perspective and she's sort of as you see her walking around, you can kinda tell that she's like imagining herself. She's liking it. Yeah. She's kinda like, that could be me. Yeah. You know, she's really into like the wife's baby, unborn babies. Mm hmm. And it's just like she's really into Nami and she's kinda like, what if, you know, could it be possible that I could like replace this woman? Right. You know, kinda get that vibe, right? Right. And and and and if this was in an American movie, you would see her plotting to kill the wife or something, you know, but she's just so sweet, but she's naive. Extremely naive. Right. Yeah. That kinda like childlike in a sense like. Mm hmm. Why couldn't why couldn't happen? You know, like very trusting but also like kinda like not even knowing that what she's doing is wrong. Right. Like like that naive or whatever. And so, then we get to meet the mother-in-law. Because the older maid goes to see her and let her know what's going on. She snitches. She snitches. Why does she snitch? What does she what does she think's gonna happen? They get rid of her? I don't know. Cuz she liked her. Seemingly so. As much as she could like anyone. I know she didn't like the husband. Maybe that was the. She didn't like either one of them. I don't think so. Yeah. I mean the maid, she has this line where she says like like it's almost like a Bukowski line, right? She's like, all you can do is wake up. Like you know your day is gonna be miserable and you have to turn yourself into a stone. Yeah. So what else could I do? You know, it's just like god damn. Like that's dark. Yeah. So and like we see her like like flopping on a bed, like smoking a cigarette, looking very unmade like. Unprofessional. Really different than like when we first see her like walking into a news apartment. Yeah, she's very straight. Yeah. You know, she doesn't move. Right. She almost seems British. Right. Yeah. Like that makes any sense. Yeah. And so she snitches. The mother-in-law is like and by the way, the mother-in-law looks almost younger than. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like the trophy wife. I think it was a kind of a bad casting. Well, I think it's just like shows like weird generations of trophy wives. You know, that's what we do. Yeah. So she gets involved. Mother-in-law's. No. Bumbers. And so they try to pay. Oh, because she's pregnant. Right. She ends up pregnant, the young maid. And the old lady, the older maid knows it. Right. She'd never said anything but she could tell. Right. She's like she's not, you know, this woman's getting sick. Her breasts are getting swollen. She doesn't understand why. Yeah. And so the I'm trying to think like what's the order like the the the mother-in-law tells the daughter, right? That's the next thing. Right. Daughter-in-law does not take it well. No. It's understandable. So, daughter-in-law like almost murders Unyi with the golf club. Oh, wait a minute. We skipped ahead. So the mother-in-law, I don't know if she, her daughter knew what she was doing but she, the young maid was up on a ladder on the second floor or something. Right. And the mother-in-law sort of hit the ladder, knocked her off and she fell to the hard floor, you know, two stories or whatever it was. Almost the same way the suicide we saw open the movie. Right, right, right. So she ends up in the hospital. And that's how they find out. That's how it's verified that she's pregnant, right? Yeah, they have to do, you know, do blood work or whatever. And the mother-in-law did it on purpose. Right. So, rich women know that she's pregnant. They're kind of scheming like what can we do to make you go away? They offer a hundred thousand dollars. Pretty good chunk of change. Right, man. You know, the old lady says hold out for more. They'll pay you. Yeah, right. That's true. She's like, I could double that. Look around, you know. But Unyi is like, no, like I, I'm going to have the baby. Like, it's my baby. Because the baby, that's why she pushed her off to get rid of the baby. But, you know, yeah, I think eventually, yeah. But she kind of caught herself and she kind of like fell on her legs. So she was just sort of like injured but not severely. Right. And so she's kind of laid up and like they start giving her like quote unquote medicine, but really some sort of poison. Yeah. I guess when you're rich, you get poisoned. Like, you got a poison guy. Yeah. Let me call my poison guy. He'll put him in some little herbal bags for you. Maybe they had used them before. Sorry, you gotta have a poison guy. So she's slowly getting sicker, doesn't really know why. There's a lot of tension in the house because she's still there inexplicably. It's like you don't have to let her live here. Like, you could kick her out. But yeah, that was weird. Well, they wanted the baby. They wanted to make sure that they were gonna take care of the baby. I guess so. I mean, they didn't want the baby. They wanted to take care of it. Right. They wanted to make sure the baby was out of the picture. So she's still living there. The old lady finally reveals like she's the one that told him. She gets angry for a moment. Forgives her pretty quickly. Yeah. That was kind of a quick turnaround. Like, oh, okay. I guess it's not that big of a deal. Then eventually, the husband is clued into what's going on. He gets angry and says he wants to keep the baby. Right. Which really pisses. Which I wasn't sure if, was that like, was that like a power move? Like, you don't get to decide what happens? Or was that like, I actually want the baby? I think it was a power move. He was a, you know. Yeah. I'm just gonna do the thing you don't expect me to do, essentially. Right. And in the meantime, the little girl, Nami, tells the young maid that he saw her grandmother push, you know, on purpose. Yeah. Knock the, the ladder. So. Nami knows what's up. She knows. So I have a situation. So then the, the young wife, the trophy wife goes into labor. She gives birth. To twins. To twins. They're like. To boys, which is important, I think. Yep. The, the maid, Unyi, she is finally sick. She's having like a miscarriage in the same tub when we first meet the trophy wife. And all seems to be well, right? She's out of the picture. Old lady's working there. They got their twins. They're still rich. We're fine. Yep. Until Unyi's revenge. Yeah. So. Yeah. She finally, she finally goes back to her old life. And then she shows up at the house again. And the older maid lets her in. Yeah. And that's key, right? Mm hmm. She shows up at the house like she's all made up. Right. She's like in full makeup, riding her little like motor scooter out to this house. Yeah. Looking hot. As soon as she gets there, maid greets her. Mm hmm. It's like, take you into the servant's entrance. This'll be fun. Yeah. She's running around the house. Right. Just kind of like raising hell. You know, just as like almost like a drunk, like like a drunken frat boy. Yeah. Just run around. It's like the family's downstairs, like get her out of here. Right. You know, like she's a headache. Kind of like annoyed, but not alarmed. Yeah. They all want her out of there, but none of them will lift a finger to do it. Right. So they're ordering the maid to do it. And the maid's like, I quit. Yeah. I'm out. Yeah. Fuck y'all. Deuces. She's going to leave. And then we see Eun Yi like kind of like grabbing and she's like looking at Nami. She's like, sorry Nami. And she's like putting a noose over her neck. Like, whoa, she got a noose. Where'd the noose come from? Yeah. Where did that come from? I don't know. It's one of those things you're like, huh. Yeah. It's also like inexplicable. It's like, okay. Just happened to be a noose there. Yeah. You got a poison guy? I got a noose guy. And so she puts a noose around her neck, jumps on the chandelier where she was like injured from before. And now at this moment, it had been 13 years since I've seen this movie. So I was like, how does this end? I don't remember. I remember thinking like it ends suddenly, but I wasn't sure what happened. So you can see it almost looks like she's trying to take the noose off. Yeah. It looked like she was trying to get out. Like, so what were you thinking? What were you thinking at that moment? I was thinking she was going to change her mind. I was trying to change her mind. Nobody would help her. Right. But then she like lights herself a blaze, right? Yeah. I don't know how that happened. All of a sudden she was on fire. Yeah. Did she do it herself? It was a little bit unclear. I missed it. Okay. I should have gone back and looked at it. What the hell happened? It seemed intentional. Yeah. Despite trying to get the noose off. I couldn't quite catch like what her... Or maybe it wasn't intentional and it wasn't. Yeah. I don't know. Watch it. You have to watch it again. Yeah. I guess this is another thing we missed. So go back and watch it again. And then... So she's up in the flames like that, right? Just screaming. And the family's like, ugh. Yeah. The family reacts as if like a dog pooped in the kitchen. You know, they're like, ugh. They kind of just scurry away. Yeah, they're running away, hiding the kids' eyes. Yeah, but they weren't like panicked. They were just kind of like, ugh. And like the sprinklers come on immediately. So it's like, hey, don't worry, rich folk. All your stuff's going to be fine. This lady's going to burn to death, but your couch is fine. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's crazy. And then we get this final scene, which is unlike anything else in the rest of the movie. Right. What did you make of that? I have no idea what it was. It was just so weird. Yeah, it was like they had their couches and stuff outside. They're all speaking English, which also was like another sign of like privilege and wealth in Korea, especially at that time. They're all speaking English. Not great. I can't tell if they're drunk or insane. They look insane. Like he's smoking a big cigar. They're holding their babies. They're kind of just like laughing. And then we get like Nami just like walking towards the camera. And she kind of like looks off in the distance. Like she's looking at something or somebody. Yeah. And then it's like you're kind of left wondering like, is Nami doomed to like this cycle that like the mother-in-law lays out early in the movie or middle of the movie. She's like, listen, you know, he's a terrible person. Your kid's going to be terrible people and you just have to endure it and you'll be a queen and it's going to happen again. You know, happen again. It happened to your kids. You know, Nami's going to have this. You're going to suffer the same shit. Right. So what was your take? Were you thinking like, okay, Nami has found a way out or is Nami just kind of like resigned? I felt like Nami had checked out the rest of the family. They were all doing this weird shit and she was just kind of staring. Yeah. They were singing happy birthday like Marilyn Monroe. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like the was it the mother-in-law was doing that, wasn't it? I think it was the mother. Okay. And it was like, yeah, it's like such as like a symbol of like, yeah, it's like that. I mean, it's like a cliche of like we're wealthy, but like we don't actually know what we're supposed to do. Like we just have money, but like no culture. Right. So we're going to take this thing that we think represents wealth. Yeah. There's a painting, weird paintings, like there's like singing on the ground. Yeah. It's like it's all this like like tacky shit without like, but like not actually knowing like what any of it means and not like having any kind of connection to it. Two new housemates. Yeah. Two new housemates. You know what? Let's get two next time. Yeah. Well, they lost both of them. Yes. You're right. We did lose both of them. We need two. Yeah. I don't know what the ending was. Did you like it? Yeah. I thought it was like, okay, that's kind of, I mean, I didn't like, if it had ended the way it did, I wouldn't have liked it probably. Uh huh. But it just gave it, it showed, to me, it showed me, like I still don't really understand it, but it kind of showed me that there's the future. These people are nuts. Yeah. Yeah. It was like an interesting coda and like definitely has a lot to say about like the wealth disparity in general, but specifically in South Korea. I mean, this movie, it's like a precursor to Parasite, right? This movie walked so Parasite could run. Right. Did we even know what that guy did? For work? Yeah. I mean, he's probably what they call chaebol, which is like, essentially, you're so rich, you're like another class. You're essentially like royalty. I mean, it's inherited wealth. Everybody was bowing to him. Yeah, but I mean, that's, you know, they all work for him and he's like the head, he's the head patriarch of the family. I mean, honestly, a lot of that money comes from people doing fucked up shady deals and selling out their country during the Japanese invasion. Oh, okay. That's where a lot of that money started. Jesus. Yeah. So, you know, great. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, most blood money, huh? Blood money. Yeah, essentially. Blood, treasonous money. There's a lot of that old money in Korea, quote unquote, old money from, you know, 100 years ago or whatever, 70 years ago. Yeah, I don't know. It was slow. At times, it dragged. There's inexplicable shit that happens. The ending is like, what the hell? And then the ending ending is like, huh, I remember that. Yeah. At least that's how I took it. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I think it's worth seeing. It's really well acted. It's good camera work, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, I feel like this is a Korean movie that doesn't get talked about very much. There's like 10 Korean movies that everyone's like, oh, you gotta see Oldboy. You gotta see, you know, like Burning, which I don't even think Burning's gonna be on that list anymore, but I think this is like, I don't know if it's top 20, maybe top, maybe it's not top 50. I'm not an expert in Korean cinema, but I'm just saying, like, if you don't want something modern, talking about the last, you know, 20 years, I'd say this is probably top 20. Yeah. Well, we've seen a lot of Korean films on the show, and it's right up there with, you know, not as quite as high as Burning and Parasite and Miss, you know, Memories of Murder. No, no, no. It's not touching those. But it's it's it's it's equal to some of the ones we've seen that that we've liked. Yeah. Yeah. I like I like Korean cinema for the most part. And this is the kind of movie that like they don't make this movie in America anymore. No, he's kind of like kind of sexy thrillers, you know, that doesn't even exist. It'd be a four-part HBO series. Yeah, it would be on TV. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Matt, do you want to guess the score? Only 11,000 reviews on IMDb. Seven? Six, four. I thought I went low. Yeah, no, it's pretty pretty low, man. Very low. Yeah. We'll check out the Okay, the feature review says after the first hour, it gets boring. Yeah, I mean.