the TRANSFORMATIONAL POWER of NUDGING: UNCORKED with SUSIE MOON

What if the real power to change someone’s life isn’t a shove or a scream, but a gentle, well-timed nudge? 

In this soul-stirring and side-splitting episode of the UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast, Tim Windsor sits down with Susie Moon, the unapologetic, hilarious, and deeply insightful self-described “Mother Nudger.” Together, they explore the transformational power of nudging—how it differs from nagging, how it motivates action without manipulation, and why it might be the most underrated leadership and life skill you’re not utilizing enough. From corporate misfit to entrepreneurial trailblazer, Susie’s journey is a masterclass in breaking free from roles that don’t fit and embracing the messy, nonlinear path to authenticity.

Listeners will walk away with hard-won insights about the power of accountability, the unexpected gift of discomfort, and why embracing humour—especially during moments of uncertainty—can be a potent catalyst for growth. You’ll hear how COVID became a cosmic nudge for both Susie and Tim, why self-promotion shouldn’t feel slimy, and how to build systems that nudge you (and others) toward your true impact zone. If you’ve ever felt like you're playing small, hiding behind comfort zones, or holding back out of fear of what others might think, this episode will nudge you gently, but unapologetically, toward your own “Summer of You.”

Tim Windsor
the UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast – Host & Guide
tim@uncommodified.com
https://uncommodified.com/
  
PRODUCERS: Alyne Gagne & Kris MacQueen 
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[00:00:00] What if the real catalyst for change in people's lives isn't a force, it's not control or volume, but a well timed nudge. Not a shove, not a scream, and definitely not a nag, just a subtle, intentional thrust forward, sideways, or even inward that disrupts inertia and invites growth in a world hooked on pushing harder, being louder, being faster.

Maybe it's the purposeful and persistent nudge that actually creates the deepest shifts within us and others. Now here's the tension. Nagging can get people to get shit done, but it is incessant and annoying and it demeans and demands along the way. But nudging is different. It's tally different, actually.

Nudging influences and inspires. Nagging drains my energy. Nudging creates it. [00:01:00] One uses guile and guilt. The other activates a generous kind of gritty grace, and yet we often confuse the two of these nagging and nudging at home, at work, in leadership or in relationships. The challenge isn't just knowing when we shouldn't nag or why we shouldn't nag, but how and when to nudge.

And trusting that the smallest push or prod in the right, at the right place, in the right time, in the right direction will move others toward their predetermined and possibly even predestined future. Hey, my friends. Welcome back to the Unmodified podcast. I'm Tim Windsor, and today my guest on the show is Susie Moon.

Susie, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Tim. It's so great to be here.

I'm 

excited. 

they're gonna have a lot of fun. Now, a bit about Susie. Susie is a high energy connector. She's a promoter and an event filler upper, this is my way of describing Susie. She's an event filler upper, with over three decades of experience helping entrepreneurs get seen, heard, and hired.

She's all about real connections, energized experiences, and absolutely [00:02:00] no bs, no fluff, equal parts, humor, hustle, and heart. Susie's the ultimate mother. Nudger, which is why we're gonna be talking about this idea today. And of course, every great conversation is nudged or started with a drink for me. So Susie, what are you drinking tonight?

I am drinking, um, a cider of some sort that it was in my fridge. Um, I have a cozy, um. Little advertisement, but yes, it's a pear flavored, so it's a loon juice

loon juice. Okay, 

bronze with moon. 

be appro appropriate. A loon juice for Susie Moon. I like that. We got things going on. Now I'm gonna pretend I'm sophisticated tonight. So what I'm doing is I'm drinking a 10-year-old Taylor flag gate port. Okay? So I'm gonna pretend that I'm sophisticated. It's like the tale of two people.

I'll pretend I'm sophisticated while you have your cozy, I think this will work out fine. Cheers to you, Susie.

Cheers.

Mmm. By the way, I do like port. [00:03:00] Alright, so if you haven't figured it out already, audience, my listeners, my friends, we're talking about nudging the nudger being a nudger. And Susie is this self-described mother nudger.

So Susie, let's, let's figure this out here. Here's a question. So a mother. A nudger, a mother nudger. I got a question. How did this calling find you and how did you discover it was your gift and potentially a gift to others? How does this find its way and where do you find this term, Suzy? 'cause I love it.

Well, I created the term because the word nudger. When I searched for it, I was thinking of buying the domain name nudger.com because all of my clients kept saying. Saying, oh, you nudge me. You're such a good nudger. And I thought, oh, what a great name. So I go onto Urban Dictionary and the term means erection.

So I was like, okay, I'm not going to use that. So, and then we came up with, oh, what about a mother nudger? And, uh, that's how it, it just [00:04:00] stuck after that.

That's amazing. Now, by the way, good call not to get that URL because that would've led to a strange sort of client array, I'm sure. but I, I, I just love this idea and when we first connected and I started thinking about this, I, I. Really was fascinated because this idea of nudging, when you start to really think about it and what it can do for people and what it really is, I think it's so powerful because as soon as I thought about it, I thought, well, the contrary, the opposite is being a nagger, a mother, nagger. A mother nagger. That's just not a good thing. I don't care if it's in your family or in business. That's a bad, bad thing. So how do you balance the tension between nudging and nagging? Because I, I know they're different, but I don't know about you, but sometimes I might mistake one for the other.

Absolutely. I think they go very closely together, but I think that nudging is more of a form of love and really caring. So there's that piece [00:05:00] where you want the best thing for the person. It's not about you. It's about what they can with their lives and pushing them and convincing, Hey, what's next?

What are you thinking about? And how. And just like gently reminding them, Hey, did you remember to follow up with so and so after you talked to them last time? So it's, it's really just, um, pushing them gently. It's like those Facebook pokes that used to be out there, um, just gently, you know, pushing them in the right direction without being naggy.

Yeah. So it's a balance. So, so this is your business. This is how you make a living. Now you're a mother nudger, and people pay you to nudge them, which is kind of cool. So how do you find yourself in this journey? I mean, tell us a little bit about your background. I imagine you didn't graduate from the school of nudging.

I don't, they'll think, I don't think there's like a, a degree in nudging.

Yeah. I hope not.

Well, you know what? It might be after this, we could start a school, the 

Nudger [00:06:00] School. Think about it. Yeah. Be careful. 

I think, it comes with accountability. I think a lot of people associate nudging with having somebody that can hold you accountable. Um, but to go back to your, your original question is, I started out in corporate, you know, 25 years of being in corporate, having to dress up every day, not being able to swear, not being able to tell dirty jokes.

I didn't fit in. Uh, I was like, I was the black sheep of corporate, you know, I was always afraid I was gonna say something wrong and HR would pull me in again. Um, I've had, supervisors and bosses that have said, you need to change your. Fit, it's not appropriate. So I, I just never fit in. So I, and I grew up with two entrepreneurial parents that had a business.

Um, I know I didn't wanna be in the family business at the time. So, , I finally decided to go into my own business after just having it, [00:07:00] he to here with all of the corporate BS and the terminology, and I just couldn't handle it anymore. I'm such a rebel and I wasn't really tapping into my true self when I was in there.

I was just playing it safe, to be honest. 

Well, and that's part of why I, I'm attracted to your story because, you know, for me, this idea of un commodification is this idea of, you know, finding our unique expression of who we are. I mean, obviously there's a caveat there for the positive benefit of ourselves and others. We have to be obviously a little bit careful with that.

But, you know, sometimes I do think that we find that we just don't fit in in environments. And I think the challenge is we often say, well, I need to fit in, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna make myself something. I'm not for the sake of the business I wanna be in or the money I wanna make. And I think that's a significant sellout that ultimately most of us regret at some level.

So I really love the fact that you say, this is just not for me. I gotta find a different way. So, so when you start. Sort of crossing over into this [00:08:00] new world, and you're gonna follow in the spirit of entrepreneurialism that's in your family, but doing it a different way. what's the first iteration of your business?

How does it get started and what, what are you doing in those early days?

yeah. I've really started to be, , a virtual assistant. You know, I knew what I was doing in corporate. I was supporting sales teams. I was helping plan. Events and getting people to come to their sales pitches basically. And also working on their CRM systems and also, , figuring out like what leads can we uncover?

Who haven't you followed up with? So I was kind of doing the same thing that I'm doing now in corporate. but I, I didn't have the confidence that I could do it. The same way in my own business. So I started as a basic, you know, virtual assistant that helps with anything a small business owner would need.

and I even ran the idea by a couple relatives and, you know, a little old school in the approach when I asked them [00:09:00] like, what do you think about this? This is what I wanna do. They thought I was crazy. They really had no. Concept of that there was a virtual option to support people. And at that time it, it really wasn't very common until 2020.

but it had existed forever, you know, uh, which is crazy. And so, um, I, I started small. I knew I was good with technology and CRM systems and I kind of supported people that way. And then I morphed, I went. All over the place, like pivoting, you know, oh, maybe I don't like this and maybe I do like this, so, I've gone in so many different directions, but I finally feel like I'm being true to myself rather than listening to what everybody else thinks I should do.

I love that journey and I, you know, I think this, this is also interesting 'cause I think a lot of people sort of, well we all do it in our mind. You know, we are here and we wanna go somewhere else. We draw a straight line, you [00:10:00] know, from here to there is a straight line. It's always straight in our mind. Of course, in the real world, it's never straight, but I love the fact that you sort of wander into this.

You're exploring, you're sort of bumping up against things, you know, sort of like those Plinko games, trying to find where it is that you want to be. You move in this direction, it doesn't fit you. You move in another direction, which I think is important because for entrepreneurs who are trying to find out where they fit.

I think a lot of people are afraid of that journey and afraid of the question, so, so what do you do? Well, I'm not sure yet. I'm figuring it out. And I love the fact that you embraced that, that sort of fluidity of the journey. And now you're sort of settling in and saying, this is who I am, this is who I wanna be.

And of course now you're attracting a group of clients to that services that you wanna offer, the things that you wanna do. But I know also that a. Part of a passion for you or something that you're good at is you have mad skills when it comes to writing, but I think you also have gotten a little bit into the comedy world somehow in the midst of this.

So ex, explain how this all fits into it, [00:11:00] Suzy.

I always knew I had a good sense of humor, but I never wanted to be in front of people telling jokes. I never wanted that type of thing. But I kept having people, uh, reach out to me during COVID at 2020 saying, Susie, why don't you do like a skit online? You can invite whoever you want and just do, do a, you know.

Tell some jokes and tell us a story or whatever. And I finally did that December 31st, 2020. I did it. I made it happen. I worked with my cousin who was a writer on some comedy shows in LA and she really helped me like hone in like how I wanted to do this. And it went awesome. I loved it. It was, I could wear PJ pants, I could have a drink and I could just kind of talk to the screen and present, which was.

Awesome. I didn't really need the feedback, but it gave me that itch of I have something to say. people wanna hear. My comedy, they want to hear my [00:12:00] jokes. And so it just, built up from there. Then somebody else, um, said, Susie, come into our networking event and be the opening comedy person. You know, tell us a story.

And I did that and I actually got paid. That was my first paid gig, and it just kind of trickled on from there. So I've done some longer skits. I've never done a three minute or five minute standup thing. so that's on my bucket list 'cause I would like to experience that, but it's always been a longer, longer form, which is crazy.

And I'm not done yet either. That's the exciting part. I.

I like it. So, listen, you're on this journey and obviously you're, you're figuring out how you can, commercialize and make a business out of this, and I, I like that part of it, 

but. I'm always interested in what are people learning about themselves along the way? So Susie's on this journey, trying to figure out, you know, who she wants to be in this next iteration of Susie, which is less bound up, a more [00:13:00] unfettered, version of Susie Moon.

So what are you learning about yourself that you don't think you would've been able to learn if you stayed in the lane that you were in?

I was always playing it safe. I was, second guessing my self worth. I was always, trying to, I was a people pleaser, like making sure that I was doing the right thing and following the rules and all of that, and that just wasn't me. I didn't feel comfortable that way, and so I'm finally. Embracing the gift that I was given and using it and not caring what other people think of me, or, who am I gonna offend by doing this?

You know, um, my mom passed away in 2019 and, she would've, the, the jokes I tell now. She would've been horrified by, um, and my dad is, he's better, but I still feel like I'm holding back while he's alive. So there's this [00:14:00] piece of like, I see myself down the road, maybe I will do standup because I can just let it all out and I'm not gonna offend my dad.

Or, you know, you worry, you still worry 

you do. 

that.

what I love about it's, there's still this sort of, I'm trying to figure it out and honor where I've come from moving to the future, which is a hard balance by the way, I think, because, you know, it's not when you embrace your yourself and I think embrace your future, it isn't about dishonoring the past, it is about somehow honoring the past.

'cause the past is what's. Brought you to this moment in time and, and so that sort of brings me back in the conversation to this idea of nudging. So you've talked about the fact that several times that. COVID was an impetus for you of certain things. And of course Covid was a strange time for lots of people.

Of course, some people who listen the podcast maybe don't even think Covid existed. Whatever, you know, whatever you think that's okay out there. Listeners, you you do you. That's fine. But, so let me ask you, do you think in some ways that [00:15:00] that metaphorically, that COVID becomes a nudger for you?

Absolutely. It, it was definitely a catalyst. I could kind of retreat from. Having to be out in front of everybody too, so I could really work on myself. Um, I, I've spent a lot of time alone building this business, and even though I'm networking with people online and going to various events, I'm still here at home with my dog and my PJ pants most of the time.

but it's okay. And, and being okay with just being me is so powerful and I never thought I would feel comfortable. In that space and needing other people's approval. So it's, it's lovely. In fact.

Yeah, it is. It is. And you know, it's interesting 'cause Covid was a nudger to me as well. I mean, my podcast started in June of 2020. If it wasn't for Covid, I wouldn't have started podcasting. I mean, in [00:16:00] 2019 I traveled 156 days for work. And so I. The idea of podcasting and trying to figure out how I was gonna do that while I was doing that was craziness.

And so then of course, COVID happened, and now we're in a different day. I went from traveling 156 days to, in 2020 I had a 26 step journey from my podcast studio, my bedroom, and where I relieved myself. So all of a sudden my world became very different and frankly, it tethered me down to a space.

And I am a person who doesn't like to sit around and, and just. Twiddle my thumbs. So all of a sudden it was like I had this idea and somebody had encouraged me about doing a podcast, and I was like, ah, I don't know if I wanna do that. And I don't have time. All of a sudden I had time. I had a lot of time on my hands, and that's when I actually began to explore this world.

So COVD became a bit of a nudger for me, and I. I do think that sometimes events that, we look back in the midst of it, it's very [00:17:00] difficult of course, but when you look back, sometimes events become catalyst. To your point, they become nudgers and, and often I would suggest that it isn't pleasure or good times that nudge us towards something different.

It's often pain and discomfort and when things aren't going well, would you agree with that?

I would, I've, always thought, I've always had to pivot. Because there was a pain. It was the, the catalyst, it was the nudging, action that made me move on. , You know, if things are going well, why would you change? You know, so it's, whether it's going through a divorce or being in a bad job that you were in, you know, everything kind of pointed me in the right direction.

So closing that door always opened up something better.

Yeah. And it is interesting how problems and pain can become a provocateur, maybe again, sometimes to move us into where we need to be because when we're in comfort. we [00:18:00] settle in, we, settle for second best. We do all these things, you know, and what I think about is interesting, you know, CS Lewis, the, you know, the famous writer, CS Lewis, you know, he was, he was a very religious man and so he saw these in religious connotations.

But I find it interesting because he wrote a book called The Problem of Pain. Uh, you know, his wife was very sickly. he was part of the Inkling group, as you know, part of JR. Token, all of these great fantasy writers, all these things. Of course, CS Lewis is famous for writing, you know, the Lion in which of wardrobe, all this.

But he wrote a series of other books because he was at theologian and he, he explored these grand ideas about how the universe worked and how God worked in his, the way he described God. And he said something very interesting in this context, and again. People if, if you're religious in nature, you can take it in that way.

If you're not, you take it in a different way. It doesn't matter. But he said something fascinating that I often think about. He said in pleasure. He said, God whispers, but in pain he shouts. And I [00:19:00] find it fascinating because whether you can put whatever you want there, you can put God, universe, you can put your mother, dad, you can put whatever you want in there, but. And pleasure is this whisper to us. But pain is a shout. It gets our attention. And when we have personal pain, when we have organizational pain, when we have, corporate pain, when we have societal pain like we did in COVID, it's amazing how it, it becomes this provocateur to us and it becomes this sort of this go that says, Hey, if you're not doing the thing. you know, shit, you could die tomorrow if you're not doing the thing, then you got a problem. And that's, I guess the, for me, you know, I described it a number of years ago on a podcast I did, and it was basically about the fact that I discovered the gift, not the grief inside of Covid. And I think this is obviously something you did 

Yep, exactly. And I like to think of the pain on Thanksgiving after, you know, the pain in your waistline where it just gets so you're like, I'm never doing that [00:20:00] again. And, you know, we, we go on a diet the day after and all of those things. And then what do we do the next year? Same thing. So it's

Absolutely. So I want you to think about the current people that you work with, the clients that you work with, and of course you don't need to disclose who they are, but I'm interested to know, do you see a commonality of where they need to be nudged, like a common area where people just need a little bit of a gentle sort, Hey, let me nudge you in this way, because do you see a common thread in that, in the work that you do and the people you connect with?

Uh, definitely I think following up for any business owner can be hard, so you build a relationship and I think nurturing those relationships is one of the hardest things that you can do. So bringing the people and having a system. Top of mind to get those people circulating back without having to spend all your days on social media.

I think, uh, the people that I work with don't wanna be on social media. They don't have time. Their goal [00:21:00] is to just simply show up and speak or talk to their clients and work with them and, and create impact. And so. For them to have to spend time to, you know, nurture those relationships. That's one of the hardest things I think they make time for.

So, you know, that's where we come in and say, Hey, did you follow up with so and so? Have you talked to this person? Oh, thank you for the reminder. You know, they're, they're so grateful that we have their back, and we're looking out for them because we, we want them to have success. We want them to make more money and have an impact.

And, uh, we're right there with them.

So 

that's, that's the common sort of nudging point that you find. you're, I'm assuming, based on how you're describing this, and I could be totally wrong and I'm happy for you to tell me I'm wrong, it won't be the first time. Um, I'm assuming you're working with more sort of smaller business or independent type of, sort of situations that, am I getting that correct?

Absolutely. It's, the people who are coaching, they're consulting, [00:22:00] uh, service-based business owners. They're typically visionaries. They love to have events and bring people to them. but they wanna make that impact. They wanna grow their business and they don't have the time and energy to spend networking and like going out and seeking the people to bring into their, there's fear, I guess, and so helping them do that, it's, I just love it. I 

get all giddy. 

No, that's, and it's great to do, to do what you love to do. And so let me ask you about the wrestling for this group of people with self-promotion. So, so one of the things I will say I struggle with, as you know, I'm sort of, I'm probably, you know, who knows I might, I. Become your client, Susie.

Maybe I'm a good candidate to be a client. I mean, so I'm probably in that sort of ilk of the clients that you probably deal with now, you probably deal with much nicer and more successful people than me, but you deal with sort of people maybe similarly, I will say one of the challenges for me was.[00:23:00] 

This idea of promoting myself, it just, you know, like I have to admit I'm not that into me. Okay. Let's just, lemme just put it like, seriously, if I had to date me, I wouldn't date me. Okay. I wouldn't, I would not date me because I'm not that into me. It's, it's weird when you're, you're out there and I'm, I'm supposed to promote myself, but that feels weird.

Is that another area where you sort of help people figure that out and nudge a person towards where they need to be? Because I'm gonna tell you right now, that is a weird thing for me. Like the last thing I wanna do is sort of like, Hey, by the way, here I am, look at me. That just doesn't do it for me. So help me understand.

Am I just psychotic or is there something going on here?

I think that's very normal. But what if it's not about you? What if you are the answer to someone else's problem that they don't know it's you? So how are they gonna find you? So maybe, maybe putting it on them. And how can I be of service like, reframe it in a different way. When you're connecting with people, you're [00:24:00] not promoting your educating.

You're edutaining, they call it, you know, however you work best with the person. Sharing the impact and the talent that you have. I don't see it as bragging or promoting. I, it's, it's sharing, you're having a conversation with people and I think by holding it back, it's a disservice to the people that need what you offer.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. I don't think I would've looked at it that way. And, um, you know, I hate to say as you're probably not the first person who've told me, Tim, it's not about you. You know what? That's not the first time I've heard that advice, Susie. So I, I'm getting to hear a message here.

So, okay. I got a question about this. So for, let's talk about Susie now, forget your clients. Just to go back to Susie here. So what is the universe nudging Susie towards, 

Ho 

hoo.

and who's your nudger?

And what's the universe, however you wanna describe that. what's the universe nudging you towards, personally, professionally, [00:25:00] where do you feel that nudge and you're going, man, that's, I don't, I don't know if I wanna go in that direction, but I'm feeling this thing that I, that maybe I need to respond to.

I've been playing small my whole life and I know that I can make a bigger impact to the world and. I don't, I don't really know in what way yet, but I feel like there's something there that I need to share. And I can tell you in a little bit about my comedy writing too. 'cause that's a different area. But for me it's stepping in front of people and not hiding behind a screen.

And just playing small. Um, I surround myself with people that are smarter, that are motivated and I inspire to be them. Like I wanna ride on this train that we're going and what else is possible. We have one life to live, so why are we not just trying hard things? I don't understand how [00:26:00] anybody could or would want to have a same job and same.

Routine in a factory. You know, I just, I know it's not for me, but maybe that's because I see bigger things for myself than I ever thought before. It's, more travel, more fun. I've been doing the TikTok shop a little bit too much lately, and I've had some fun things. I even bought my, like a squirrel puppet, for my dog.

What? But you gotta make things fun. So I just think life's too short.

you know, Susie, I love it 'cause the universe is pushing you towards something and a fuller expression of who you are. You know, and what I love about this story, and again, if you're listening, you know, think about it this way. What I love about it is Susie's on this journey, which she's trying to figure out how to.

how to make money, how to live, survive through this whole thing. Like we all are trying to figure it out. Trying to figure out how to be authentic, how to be herself, how to find yourself in the midst of that, which isn't easy, by the way. 'cause it, [00:27:00] it's a lot easier just to sell out and become a shell of yourself.

for 40 bucks an hour. You know, it's a lot easier to do that, frankly, but you're taking a hard path trying to figure out who you are, trying to figure out how to nudge your client base towards their preferred future. And, and that's what I really love about the story and. Susie, when you and I first connected, there was just something about the, you know, who you are, who you wanna be, and I get the sense that maybe, you know, maybe you're just in, in this place where maybe you're gonna find in the next season a greater expression of who you want to be because you've been at this a while trying to figure it out and you're committed to the process even though it's difficult.

And I know that you talked about how you work quite independently and you know, you don't. I think you said you don't get out much. I think that's what you said, Susie. You don't get out much. but actually you have this tremendous influence over a lot of people, on people that I connect online.

I can see how you're benefiting them and trying to nudge them towards the future. And you know, my hope actually is that this conversation somehow becomes a nudge to you. because you, you're out [00:28:00] there getting a bunch of people on podcasts and doing stuff like that and I, my hope is, is that maybe this becomes a nudge to you to say, Hey, you know what, actually, Susie, this isn't just about nudging others.

Maybe it's about getting, nudging you towards where you need to be. And I love the word, and I always love looking at words and what they mean. And, you know, nudge in the dictionary literally means to touch or push gently. But it also means to urge into action, which is an interesting way, but it also means to seek the attention of somebody actually by pushing the elbow towards them, which I find very interesting.

It's sort of like, you know, I'm a Canadian, so we're into hockey. So it's it's like elbowing somebody towards where they need to go and you know. Maybe part of this conversation, Susie gets to be a little bit of elbow in your side to say, Hey, Susie, it's not just about others. Maybe it is about you.

No, I'm not. Maybe it is about you and the in the future that you wanna find. So here's a question. If people wanted to hunt you down, maybe they wanna hire you to do a. Comedy gig. Uh, maybe they wanna get [00:29:00] you to be their official mother nudger, I get hung up on saying that 'cause I'm, you know, I've been called a motherfucker, but I've never been called a mother nudger.

Just, just to be clear, like, I've never been called a mother nudger, but I get the sense that maybe this, the next season's for you, Susie, would you be open to that potentially.

Absolutely. Um, as, on Seinfeld terms, it's the summer of Susie or Summer of George.

It's the summer of Suzy. I love it. So if it's the summer of Susie, and this podcast will probably air around the beginning of summer. So let's call officially the summer of 25, the summer of Susie. Let's call it the Summer of Suzy. And if it's the summer of Su Susie, and people wanted to find you, Susie, how do they find Susie Moon?

Yeah, I'm, I'm on pretty much every social media app there is that are the common ones. Um, but you could go to my website, susie moon.net and, find me there. Okay.

Awesome. Listen Susie, I appreciate your time today. Now I wanna end with this question 'cause it's really always an important question for me. So this idea of un commodification for me again, is [00:30:00] living your authentic self for the positive benefit of each other. You've talked about that journey, so, so Susie walks into a room I.

You know, Susie walks into some room and is bringing only the thing that Susie can bring. What's Susie doing in that room that you know is your unique contribution to that? ecosystem that brings a positive energy in that area.

I'm bringing the energy, I am making People feel like they belong in that room, that they're comfortable, they're safe, and they're gonna have a little fun. I just, it's the energy that when I walk in, I'm bringing it, it's like a boombox on my shoulder.

I love it. And energy's a really important thing. And by the way, I, I think fun is also very underestimated. you know, we become, life is hard at times. Things are challenging. I mean, we're living North America and it's halfway through 20, 25, and some days I wake up and think that, that the world is fucking ending.

I mean, we could be all, not here tomorrow. I don't know what's gonna happen. It's not so fun. [00:31:00] But, you know, maybe just getting back to some fun in our lives and taking some joy, finding the power of joy, again, in our lives for what we wanna do. Who we wanna be, is a big part of it. And again, if you listened, I always say you listened for a reason.

So ask yourself a couple of questions. One, what's the universe nudging you towards two. Who do you need to nudge, not nag, but nudge in a positive way towards something that's better, for them, more or greater fulfillment of who they are, who they need to be.

And again, listen, if you can turn it into your full-time job, that's great, but actually most of us will be amateur nudgers and we won't do it for money. We'll just do it for the pleasure of moving another human towards their preferred or maybe in predestined future. So again, thanks for listening in.

Susie, thank you for the gift of your time. Absolutely delightful to chat with you. Thanks again for listening. Have a great day. Cheers.