a Beautiful BUZZ: UNCORKED with Chris Steffler and Camryn Shepherd

What if the future isn’t doomed by noise, division, comparison, and performative living, but quietly being rebuilt by people who still believe authenticity, kindness, and community actually matter?

In this deeply hopeful and surprisingly vulnerable conversation, Tim Windsor sits down with Chris Steffler and Camryn Shepherd, the energetic duo behind Rogers TV’s What’s Buzzin’, for a conversation that moves far beyond media, broadcasting, and social platforms. What unfolds is an honest exploration of identity, bullying, insecurity, friendship, imposter syndrome, purpose, and the pressure younger generations feel to have life figured out before they’ve even had a chance to live it. Chris and Cam pull back the curtain on how two students in a broadcasting program discovered an undeniable chemistry, built a platform rooted in trust and compassion, and chose to use media not for ego, but for impact. Their story is full of laughter, authenticity, and moments that will genuinely challenge listeners to rethink how they view success, influence, and the race to “arrive.”

This episode is packed with powerful takeaways about embracing your authentic self, refusing to let comparison steal your confidence, and learning that your current struggles may actually be preparing you for your future calling. Chris and Cam speak openly about being bullied, feeling out of place, and wrestling with the expectations of social media culture, while also sharing why they believe this generation still has enormous hope and potential. Tim pushes the conversation into deeper territory as they discuss the sacred trust that comes with influence, the responsibility of media voices, and why meaningful community connection matters now more than ever. The result is a conversation that feels refreshing, encouraging, and deeply human. It will leave listeners challenged to stop waiting for permission to become themselves, to care less about fitting in, and to start using their gifts, voice, and story to bring something better into the world.

Tim Windsor

the UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast – Host & Guide
tim@uncommodified.com
https://uncommodified.com/
  
PRODUCERS: Alyne Gagne & Kris MacQueen 
MUSIC BY: https://themacqueens.ca/

Transcript

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The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (00:07.694)

Hey my friends, welcome back to the Uncommodified Podcast. I'm Tim Windsor and today my guests, yes that's guests plural on the show are Chris Steffler and Cameron Shepherd. Chris and Cam, welcome to the show.

Chris And Cam (00:19.927)

Thank you for having us. Thanks for having us, Tim. We're so excited to be here.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (00:22.67)

It's gonna be a lot right now. Wait a little bit. of all, Chris and Cam, I'm a little nervous today listeners because Chris and Cam are TV hosts. So this is the big times. We're hitting the big times here. So Chris and Cam are TV hosts, their media personalities, entrepreneurs, social media managers. And if you live in the Waterloo region in Ontario, in Canada, where I live, you might recognize them as the host of the What Buzzin Show on Rogers Media.

Chris And Cam (00:30.479)

You're gonna be great.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (00:47.16)

which is a talk show focused on all things local. Chris and Cam can be seen around my city, maybe not yours, but my city as event host and emcees, community champions. They love the buzz. We're gonna talk about that. And especially right here in my neck of the woods where I live. Chris and Cam, welcome to the show. And what are you drinking? It's uncorked.

Chris And Cam (01:05.967)

Okay, I'm having a blonde vanilla latte from Starbucks. We grabbed Starbucks on the way. Kim, what are you I'm actually trying something new. I'm trying that iced cherry chai latte with almond milk, because I can't have dairy. So good. It's actually really good.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (01:11.341)

Love it.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (01:18.634)

Ice? Okay, ice, cherry. Say that again, that's a long one.

Chris And Cam (01:21.281)

Iced cherry chai latte. Too many things. It's really good.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (01:24.718)

Far too many Cs in there. No, no, I can't do that. I'm having a licorice tea, so here we go. Cheers to you. Okay, so let me explain how I met Chris and Cam. I did a local event a couple months ago called Disaster Class. We won't get into that. If you listen to the show, you know what Disaster Class is. And I'm sitting, I'm standing up in front doing my MC thing, and I look out and there is these two amazing, powerful young people sitting right in front of me.

Chris And Cam (01:29.859)

There we go. Cheers. Love it. Cheers, Tim.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (01:52.834)

who seem to be mildly engaged. And I'm thinking, huh, I think I've seen these people before, but where, where have I seen them? And then I get talking after, I go, yes, Rogers TV, now I know where I saw you. So how did you end up at that event, first of all? Let's talk about that, because that's where you and I met.

Chris And Cam (02:09.007)

Okay, so one of the speakers, Fawn, who is absolutely incredible, she's the executive director with Food for Kids. We love Fawn and we love what Food for Kids stands for and what they're all about. And we also love all things local, that's the whole focus of our show. So we had seen her share disaster class and we just love the concept because I think both of us have experienced disaster, like for me was bullying growing up, Cameron's gone through different things, so we thought, okay, this is a really cool thing that we could just check out. And we learned that this is the first time that you were doing it,

So we we gotta come sit for it, we gotta check this out. And it ended up exceeding our expectations. It was incredible. So good. Yeah, it was just kind of something that we wanted to do on our own time. It wasn't necessarily something that we're like, okay, we have to go do this. It's not work related. No, it wasn't work related. It was just for fun. And we bought the tickets. He was like, hey, would you want to go do this? I was like, absolutely. Let's go. Let's go for it.

had a great time, it was better than we expected, and we got to meet you, which was amazing. And we got to see Fawn, which of course we always love seeing Fawn. And we love hearing different stories, like hearing the inspiration of how someone used a disaster to turn into something huge in their life. I mean, it's a win-win just to sit there and just take it all in. really wasn't what we expected. We didn't know what we were expecting when we walked in there, but it definitely exceeded, I think, anything that we could have imagined. good. It was...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (03:06.019)

which is.

Chris And Cam (03:23.663)

very vulnerable and real, exactly, think, the community needs more of. We'll be your hype people, Tim. We loved it so much. was amazing.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (03:32.898)

Well, that's awesome and I appreciate that. I will, you know, no, I'll tell you, I didn't even know what it was going to be when I walk in the room. So we're trying to figure it out and stick handle it, which I really love. And I will tell you when I, when I mentioned I had a chance to sit down and chat with you a little bit. And obviously, you know, I've seen your show locally. Um, what I would say is, first of all, I want to start here. You guys give me tremendous hope for the future. Cause

Chris And Cam (03:54.731)

Aw, thank you.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (03:55.618)

You know, I am almost, potentially almost three times your age, but not quite, hopefully, but close to three times your age. And when I met you, I'd go, there's hope for the future. If the future is full of Chris and Cam's, then the world is going to be all right. When I shuffle off this coil and go somewhere, I don't know where, I'm not sure where it's gonna be. I have a lot of faith and hope, and that's why I wanted to have you on the show, because.

Chris And Cam (04:09.763)

That's so sweet, thank you.

Chris And Cam (04:18.479)

Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (04:23.39)

I love what you do, I love your energy, and I wanna understand your story. you guys come into this experience now as TV hosts, you're doing this together. Where did you first meet? How did you meet? Where did you meet? And when did you realize that man, we gotta do this thing together, which by the way is very hard to do I think.

Chris And Cam (04:38.136)

my gosh. This is always such a fun story.

together.

It is. well, obviously when you're going into, we studied broadcasting at Conestoga College. That's where we met. We met in college, in class. And like you said, it's difficult to find people that you click with because everyone's personalities are so different. Your best friend could be someone that you don't click with when you're on the air, when you're on camera. We could be really good off air and then when we get on the mic, we're terrible.

that could honestly happen and we've seen that with other people. We worked with other people besides. didn't click. It didn't click and as soon as we went out on air together, we noticed it instantly. Not just us, but teachers, people listening to the show were like, you guys sound really good together. And it was, we were getting feedback.

Every day about how good we sounded together. So but to even pull the curtain back on that I mean the first time we had ever met was actually through a zoom call. It was like this Yeah, we were on a zoom call. It was our first day. It was our first day in the course It was an online course So everyone turned their cameras on and we were all thinking who's gonna gel with who just by like seeing faces? were the only ones who turned our cameras on. Yeah, so it's like, okay, maybe so we met each other virtually And then of course your first day in class and you don't know anyone it was kind of awkward obviously we're in broadcasting so we're a little bit

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (05:46.766)

RRRR

Chris And Cam (05:55.171)

chatty but the very first day we were thinking like who can we sit with who can we click with and we didn't sit together. there was not a lot of people in our class anyways there's really only 20 people in the class so you really only had so many people to chat with and work with and that this small class definitely made it easier to connect one another and to build chemistry but Chris and I weren't actually so close at the beginning of the year we didn't actually really start being friends until like the second half

like the second half of the semester. into the semester where we're like, yeah, you're okay of a person. And then I ended up... with you. can put up with you. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Yeah, I was sitting in a different spot in the classroom. So then I ended up moving beside Chris and that's how we ended up. We were like, we answered every question the same. We would build off of each other's ideas. I'd say an answer. be like, I was just about to say that. We just felt like we shared the same. And it's so funny because everyone looked at us like, my God, Kristen came. Do they have any other friends that they're glued to each other?

But when we look at it now, like our class wasn't super close. Like obviously we worked together, we were like colleagues in a way, we were classmates. But when we started working together and we started building our chemistry, we were like, okay, this is working. And then everyone was saying Chris and Cam, like two C names, they go well together. so good. Everyone has said Chris and Cam. That's just how it started. The way it sounded. And so from there we did...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (07:09.836)

It, it, it, hold on, hold on, wait, how come it's not, how come it couldn't have been Cam and Chris?

Chris And Cam (07:15.151)

Where do we- that's so true, we never thought of that No, no one ended up- how people would say when we- because we were always together, they would always just go, Chris and Cam That's just how- it's just how it always went We were like, okay, how's Cam and Chris? We're like, no, that does not sound Even when we sit on our show, it's like I sit on the farther side, she sits on the left, and it's like Chris and Cam Like, just the way it's all laid out, it's always been Chris and Cam And it also doesn't matter because Chris and I have the same initials, we're both CS Yeah, that's another thing So, it's like we're so similar in so many ways Yeah

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (07:26.254)

Okay.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (07:31.115)

I did not.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (07:41.582)

Okay, hold on, you were destined, yeah, you were destined for this thing. So, okay, let me ask you a question and I want you to come at this from your own individual angle. So, and I'm gonna ask this of Cam first and then I'm gonna ask it of Chris. So Cam, what made you decide to go into broadcasting? You personally.

Chris And Cam (07:46.624)

Yeah, yeah.

Chris And Cam (07:52.109)

Okay.

Chris And Cam (07:55.791)

Okay.

Chris And Cam (08:01.069)

Mm-hmm. Good question. Yeah, that's a great question. So personally for me, I truly had no idea what I wanted to do in my 20s. So I started at Laurier and I was during COVID so I ended up being all online. I hated that program. I hated it so much. I was not happy doing what I was doing. I found the radio program.

I knew I loved music. I knew I loved talking. So that was just two things that I focused on that I knew I really liked. And then I thought, okay, well, what can I do that I could go to school for this or I could build a career off of this? Well, there's podcasting, there's TV, there's... Then I found the radio program. I applied for that program and I instantly fell in love with how it worked. I sat in that studio, I listened to music and I talked.

I got to talk about not whatever I wanted, but whatever I wanted. I could be myself, I could have fun with it, I could be authentic and also do everything I wanted to do. And it just felt very easy for me to finally find something that I know I'll be good at. I just think for me, starting so late in my life, I didn't actually start this program until I was 21. For me, that felt so late. And I was like, I already took a year off school, I already took another gap year.

It just felt like I was running out of time. So then when I found the program, I'm like, I need to like slow down. Like I need to calm down. I'm good. I have so much time and I actually am doing something I want to do. And I just fell in love with everything about it. And I love music. So it really inspired me to take the radio course just because of what plays on the radio. I grew up listening to that stuff. Like one of- Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (09:38.796)

I love, yeah, I love that. That's your passion coming out and stuff. favorite band.

Chris And Cam (09:44.917)

My favorite band, that's great. I've gotta love Zeppelin, Muse, I Foo Fighters, Beatles. I love all the old bands. That's what I grew up on. My parents, I grew up on Zeppelin. I grew up on Sloan. I grew up on the old bands. Those were my favorites. And so growing up, I went to all those concerts. I've been to Foo Fighters concerts. I saw them in Fenway. It was incredible. And our station was an alt rock station. So it had your name written all over alt rock. I listened to 88.3 growing up.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (09:56.472)

I know.

Chris And Cam (10:14.775)

And then I was on that station as an adult. So if to me, like actually being able to be on like radio and people were like, my God, I heard you on radio. was so, you sounded so amazing. I got positive feedback from doing something that I really enjoyed doing and it just made it easier.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (10:16.142)

That's awesome.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (10:31.337)

that's a lot. I love that journey, that's amazing. Okay, now, Chris, how do you find your, when do you decide broadcasting? That's where I wanna be.

Chris And Cam (10:36.259)

Yeah. So honestly, for me it was like grade six or seven. So I was a kid in class. I was honestly very quiet in my early years. I would say like JK through like even like grade, grade six or seven right up until then I was the quiet kid because I dealt with a ton of bullying growing up. And so naturally my first career path, my first thought was being a teacher. I love connecting with people. I love meeting people. I do do that. Yeah. I had all these like thoughts in my head. I was like, yes, I want to do that. And then my neighbor was a teacher. So I would talk to him.

He's like, yeah, you have the perfect demeanor. You'd be a great teacher. And then eventually, as the years went on, I was like, okay, I'm now becoming the talker in class. I'm connecting with people all the time in class. have a lot of friends that I'm chatting with. And so naturally I thought, okay, maybe being a radio host or being in something in communications or talking, something very similar to you. So early on in my high school years in grade nine, I knocked on the door at Chime 96.7, which is a local station here in Kitchener-Waterloo. I was able to shadow the morning show.

They put me on the air and then let me do some weather hits, which was so awesome, like little baby me doing weather how cool is that? I was horrible, I wasn't great, I'm not gonna lie to you. But they put me on the air, I had so much fun, and then right from there I was like, this is a ton of fun. I get to push all these buttons, I get to connect with people, I get to meet people, and I was just very, already at that age I was very community focused, like I love the idea of getting involved in the community. So right from there, I think I was in like grade 10 when I naturally just applied to the program, I was just thinking, okay.

this is for me. And then grade 10, that early I applied. And then I took a gap year right after in like grade 12. And then I started the broadcast radio program. And then from there it's been history. I'm still talking all the time. I still love to talk. But it's crazy. If you asked me when I was really young, like in grade one or grade two, no one would ever have predicted I was on the radio or I was on TV because I was so introverted. I didn't talk. But now that I have this spot and this platform where I'm able to do that and I've met so many people, it's been incredible.

And it's been so rewarding. It's been such a rewarding process too.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (12:27.95)

It's amazing. It is, you know, and interestingly enough, I never went to a public event or a group event until I was finished high school because I was afraid of large groups. I never spoke in school. I never did a public speech. I was afraid to communicate. never went to a dance ever. Those things just made me freak out.

Chris And Cam (12:46.425)

I get that.

Chris And Cam (12:54.233)

Mm-hmm.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (12:55.084)

The idea that I do what I do for a living in my life now is so disconnected to who I was growing up. It's really interesting, it really can be. Yeah, it's really, it is interesting. And then you maybe come into your own and you figure that out. Cause I think we live sometimes and again, we get in that authentic way of living cause we're trying to fit in and all that stuff. And then we find ourselves, which I didn't find myself until a lot later in my life. So the fact that you guys are figuring out who you are.

Chris And Cam (13:00.919)

It's crazy how it changes. Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (13:20.078)

at such a young age, that is awesome and amazing. you come into this, you've got this great chemistry, you come to this thing, but you just talked about being on radio, but you're not on radio, you're on TV. So how do you cross the Rubicon? Because you know, a lot of people, have a face for radio, as they say, but you guys have a voice for radio and faces for TV, come on.

Chris And Cam (13:22.991)

Thank you.

Chris And Cam (13:29.557)

No, not anymore.

Chris And Cam (13:38.617)

That's what my dad says.

that sounds nice!

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (13:44.034)

The whole package here, people. Come on. So how do you find yourself, like all of a sudden you're like, no, it's going to be TV. And do you start freaking out or are you like, yeah, let's do it.

Chris And Cam (13:53.111)

It was honestly a lot bigger of a difference than I think we expected. started as a... So like we said, we were on the radio and then it started right after the radio we jumped into a podcast because right from there we're in school and they're going, okay, you guys have chemistry, it works the way that you guys are talking together, you don't interrupt each other and just the chemistry action worked. So we started a podcast at the time, we called it The Three Cities Off Air.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (13:57.304)

Okay.

Chris And Cam (14:14.721)

And that was where we talked on the radio together, but then when we were off the air, we didn't have anything to talk about. So we talked on a podcast. And so a lot of the things that we talked about on the air, we ended up translating to a podcast. It was long form, so we could talk about it a little bit longer. And there's a little bit.

things we could be more lenient with, know, there are certain things we can't talk about on air, especially on a school radio station, you know. You can cuss a little bit, you can have a little fun with it, you Not saying we're these crazy inappropriate people, it's not that. But we just like to have, we can have a bit more fun and be a little bit more lenient. You can show more of yourself without being shown as a crazy person, right? Yeah. And then we used, we built a demo, so our teacher was like, use this podcast as a demo because it sounds great.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (14:36.632)

Sure.

Chris And Cam (14:54.691)

or I should even back up, we actually won an award at college also. We were the innovators of the year award and then I had won the radio host of the year award. So that was kind of our time where we were like, okay, this is working. mean, obviously we're getting recognized for our hard work and we are meant to work together. So we found this open house at Rogers here in Kitchener and they were looking for Gen Z talk show host. Like it had her name written all over it.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (15:00.632)

Wow.

Chris And Cam (15:19.107)

And we just went not even thinking we'd get anything out of it. We were just like, let's just go see what happens, pitch ourselves, talk about what we Push our faces in their face. So what's funny was our boss, Patty, we found her on LinkedIn. So we got her face, like her little profile picture of this. as soon as we saw her, we beeline to her. like, gotta go I know who that is. I know that is. I saw her on LinkedIn. So we're like, Patty, we don't want to creep you out, but we know that you're the station manager. Hey, we're Chris and Cam. We pitched ourselves, gave her a quick little elevator pitch. And she was like. our podcast, listen to it.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (15:19.693)

Yeah.

Chris And Cam (15:48.205)

Yeah, so the producers listened to it and they were essentially like, really want to move forward with the show with you because we just love your chemistry. We love that you're very community driven. We said we want to meet the community. We want to get out in the community because when you're on the radio station, obviously there's a plus where you don't get to be seen because you get to wear pajamas and do whatever you want. But the plus about TV is you're actually able to see people and meet people. And that's we loved about it. So we pitched that to her just saying we want to be on TV and we want to actually connect with the community. She's like, I love that. We really want.

Gen Z co-host to host a talk show. We're like, that's literally us. So we spent the summer planning and prepping with her. Then she had to talk to the legal team about all the legal stuff that we know nothing about. Our name and stuff, like the once buzzed name, if that could even be okay and stuff like that. And then we started it. And I mean, now it's been incredible. We're going into our fourth season now, which is amazing. We've had over 150 guests join us in the studio and we're meeting so many people. I that's the biggest thing is.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (16:22.126)

Yeah, that's you guys.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (16:42.35)

That's amazing.

Chris And Cam (16:46.061)

We're seeing the incredible work in the community. People always say, my gosh, you must love this. This is your job. But really, we love meeting people and we love getting to go, hey, thank you for what you do. This is our job. This is our platform. But we want to use that to be able to benefit you. Yeah, absolutely. So it's been such a rewarding process. really is. We're so grateful.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (17:00.596)

That's amazing. That's amazing. Okay, so let me ask you, I'm ask you two bookend questions and I want you to think about that this sort of in two different ways and I'll let you decide who wants to go first. So I'll give you the two questions so you can sort of see where I would like to take that. So on one level, I want you to think about what's been easier than you anticipated to move in the direction you wanted to move in. And then on the opposite, what's been harder than you anticipated?

Chris And Cam (17:06.745)

Yeah.

Chris And Cam (17:24.207)

Mmm.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (17:29.772)

to move in the direction you want to move.

Chris And Cam (17:30.799)

I think easiest that we didn't expect was how similar I think the two are the two are timing wise How long you're talking for, know radio you only have one to two minutes to talk max two and a half minutes and you're going overboard so Chris and I were like rushing we're super fast So you have to think of something to say on the spot. Yeah and be able to carry conversation and banter back and forth

for two and a half minutes straight without taking a break. So that for us, I think was really easy going from two minutes to now having eight minutes to talk, which is a lot longer. But we were like, okay, that seems like a lot, but it wasn't because we had so much to say. had that trust. knew that we could rely on one another to keep the conversation going no matter how slow it got or whatever it was. It just came easier to time out the segments. It was like eight minutes just felt.

I the easiest, like I said, was that trust because we trusted each other from when we were on the radio because when you're on the radio you kind of just have to look at each other when you're going, okay we gotta rap. You gotta just be able to read each other. or if you're gonna ask a question then I know that I'm not gonna ask a question. I can kind of see on his face that he's about to say something so I keep my mouth shut. those types of We understood each other in the way that it...

Going from radio to TV, it's like the biggest difference is What is it? The camera. camera. obviously everybody can see you. So I think the hardest thing was mannerisms, looking perfect, making sure that you smile and that you're not, you know, looking off to the side or you're focused, you know, like I tend to kind of wander a little bit. My mind is like a squirrel brain, so I need to make sure I...

focus on one thing. And you can do that when you're on the radio because no one's in the studio except for you. So you can look at each other and be like, what are you doing? What are you talking about? That personally for me was can't do that when you're on TV? That was the hardest thing for me personally. can't speak for you, but that It definitely was an adjustment. I did always have a passion for TV. Like I was the kid that woke up every morning watching breakfast television since I was a kid. And I always envisioned being in their shoes.

Chris And Cam (19:38.543)

So for me, I always knew I loved you, but still naturally, regardless if you love the camera or not, it's still a huge adjustment when you two years of being just behind a mic and then you get thrown four different cameras and then you have an earpiece in your ear, you're getting a producer talking to you. Those are all things that kind of throw you for a loop, but it's nice, truly. I'm gonna actually say something nice about you. This is just when you have someone that's able to understand you and just work with you, that's what makes it really great. I think that's what Rogers likes too, is that we're able to.

trust each other in sense. honestly learned a lot about both sides. Like media in general, during the radio program, were so many, we learned about social media, we learned about podcasting, sales, promotion, reaching out to people, all this stuff that we utilize in What's Buzzin' that we wouldn't be able to know how to create content and how to ask the right questions and reaching out and booking and all this stuff. Like cold call emails, that was another big thing we learned how to do.

that gaining the confidence to do that through school is helping us now. it's crazy because I think a lot of people think when they're in school they're thinking, I'm not going to take this anywhere, but everything that we've learned, whether we've taken it into our TV show or we've taken it into account when we're going to a media event, personal lives, whatever it is, there's so much that we took away. But I think those are the biggest. I think the camera was the biggest difference. And then just trusting each other was the easiest part, being able to understand timing and the way that all works is it is very similar.

of a microphone, it's camera. Yeah, and not only building the trust with one another, but also building the trust with the community and having the community watch us every week and rely on, not rely on our show, but look forward to it and say that, I recognize these people. These are good people in our community that do good things. That's what we wanted. And we always say, like, we truly are, and I know a lot of people think this, but truly we're no ego attached. We actually, when we meet people out and about, we're thinking...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (21:12.483)

Yes.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (21:22.84)

Yeah. Yeah.

Chris And Cam (21:31.001)

We just love that you love community and that you love checking in every week and going, hey, what's happening? What's going on? What's the buzz for the week? That's literally what we're here for. here because we obviously love our job, but we're also here to give you a platform to watch and to enjoy and to promote yourself if you have something going on. Another big thing on that too is What's Buzzin' is really focused on volunteer opportunities as well. So if anyone is looking for volunteer hours, like I really struggled in high school learning.

where I could get my volunteer hours, which is funny enough, I volunteered at Rogers, the same studio that I'm working at now. grade nine, She did the audio board for TV Bingo. Yeah, I got my volunteer hours done at Rogers, so I started there, and then I obviously left and continued, got my degree in high school, then did college, and now I'm back. And the funny thing is, too, it's not even just Rogers, it's we're promoting, if we have people coming on and they have a community event and they need volunteers to do...

different side hustles or side work, they come on to promote it on our show. So we're so community driven and we're honored to even have this platform. People think we just love to be on TV because we're in front of cameras. No, we love to actually sit down, have real authentic conversations. And I think that's the biggest compliment when guests go, my God, you actually really care about what I'm talking about. We're like, yes, not just because the cameras are on. We genuinely love what we do and we love talking to you.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (22:43.394)

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you know what I love about that? mean, that's really what impressed me when I met you guys. You guys are just so genuine. You're so, there's this just wonderful, caring, compassionate, underlying sense of everything you're doing, which I really love. But it's pretty clear that you're not just putting it on, which I will tell you, I spot fake really, really easy. And so what I loved about connecting with you is like,

Chris And Cam (23:07.247)

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (23:10.712)

There's just this wonderful genuineness to who you are and who you want to be and how you want to show up. And now you have this platform and you've used the word trust several times. And I really think that's a really powerful word because not only do you clearly have trust with one another and how you work together, but there is a, and I'm going to use the term sacred in, I'll use it in a broader sense, not in a religious sense, but there is a sacred trust. I think that people give people in the media.

And as you know, not every media person is careful with that trust at times. But there is a trust that happens as people get to know you or feel they get to know you. And that is a place of some influence and power, if we want to think of it that way. so using that wisely and, of course, the kind of people that you connect with and that younger generation, you know, the...

Chris And Cam (23:43.577)

Mm-hmm.

Chris And Cam (23:50.499)

Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (24:02.423)

That's a relief. That is a sacred trust and it's a privilege. It's an honor. It's all those things. And so I love the way that you're framing that and looking at that and because I do think it's important.

Chris And Cam (24:07.084)

Absolutely.

Chris And Cam (24:13.689)

especially in today's world. think like you said, can be people in the media that take advantage of that. But we think of it as we are so lucky and we're privileged to have a platform that we have. And we're gonna use it to the best of our ability to promote people that are also authentic, also passionate and also caring because we are so community driven. People do look at us as those community champions, community activists. We're gonna make sure we lead up to that, make sure that we're-

And also having on guests that, sorry, represent the same values as us and respectful people in general and kind and are doing the right thing. And we always try to make sure that we do proper research before we have on guests and just make sure that no matter what, because there's always on the internet. There's things you got to look up. Yeah. Things you got to look up for and having the trust with the community. You just want to make sure that you are always representing yourself and the community in the best possible way. Yeah. Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (24:44.236)

Yes. Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (24:57.036)

Yeah. Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (25:04.078)

100%. Yeah, no, for sure. And I love all of that about how you're doing that. So now I wanna sort of take this, remove the conversation a bit from the show, and I wanna talk about you as individuals, as members of society in Canada right now. We're recording this episode in, know, actually April Fool's Day, which is hilarious, April 1st. Funny enough, but it won't air for several months, but.

Chris And Cam (25:27.097)

Funny enough. I know.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (25:31.502)

2026 and the world is a complicated place. There's a lot of challenges in our country, around the world. mean, we're at a time where there's global conflict as there always is, but it's heightened. There's a lot of things that make a younger generation, I think, look into the future and ask, what is the world going to look like? So I'm interested to know, from your vantage point, what hope

Chris And Cam (25:44.291)

Yeah, lots going on, yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (25:58.934)

What hope do you hold for the future for yourselves as individuals, for people in this community, maybe for people like yourself around the globe? What is your hopeful expression that you'd love to see in the next number of years as you walk out your journey in this community, but also as citizens of the larger globe that we live on?

Chris And Cam (26:19.235)

Ooh, you want to start with that one? think personally for me, I just hope that honestly, as technology is getting more evolved, everything is evolving nowadays. AI is obviously being more pushed into our society and into everyday life. I think things have just become a little bit more overcomplicated than think anyone really needs. just truly believe that people are taking things.

too seriously. We just need to slow our role. I think people are stressed for the wrong reasons. I think people are taking things to heart. know, there's so much going on in the world right now that may not involve us but does involve us. So I think trying to keep a positive attitude, staying true to yourself. think personally for me growing up learning that not everybody is gonna like me and that was I think personally hard for me to learn.

that I was really, I tried to please everybody. I everybody my friend and I ended up getting less friends because of it and people started hating me more and I got bullied because of it. So I think now I'm hoping that people are more true to themselves not because they think they have to be but because they want to be. Because they know that they are a good person. I know I'm a good person. I know that I'm a decent human being and I try my best and that's all that matters. And if you like me, that's great. If you don't...

There are other people who do. So I think moving forward, I just want to see more people be themselves, have faith in themselves, do things like this. This is very out of my comfort zone, but it's really fun. doing things for the community, not just for yourself, is a big mental change for sure. I love the idea of authenticity. I think in this crazy world, there's so much stigma and there's so many... Fakeness. People are always thinking, I have to be...

at this stage in my life by this age, I have to do this by the time I'm 50, I have to do this by the time I'm 25. We live in a world where your life is your life. You get to decide how you want to live it. And I think that's the way, I think years ago, I was in that state of mind where I thought, my gosh, I have to be in a certain spot at a certain time. Now I'm just like, screw it. I'm gonna be at this spot, I'm gonna do what I wanna do. And I think being an authentic person and just being the person that people want to be around, we both dealt with bullying and that was because

Chris And Cam (28:42.223)

We cared so much about what people think. But like I say, in today's world, there's so much going on, you just can't care. You can't care. It is so exhausting and it will strip you as a person. will make you feel... You're find your true circle of people that truly care about you. And this is more for the younger generation, because I know for a fact the younger generation now is thinking with social media...

with all these different friend groups and all these different things you have to much comparison nowadays. Comparison's huge. Even when you don't even think about it, like there are so many things online that anyone can access. And you know, young kids have access to technology and cell phones and as hard as that is, they have access to the internet and the internet has a lot of unsavory stuff on there. So, people like Chris and I, we want to just make sure that what we do put out on the internet is safe and people can feel like it is a safe space to go to and learn.

important information, learn how to get involved within the community, and maybe just want to watch a show that they genuinely have good people on, that's what we're there And I think also, I know for me specifically, in this generation there's a lot of imposter syndrome. I know a couple years ago I was always dealing with imposter syndrome, thinking, okay, well if this person's my age, how are they up here and I'm still down here? There was so much comparison, as you mentioned. Imposter syndrome is real in any industry, in any way of life, but I think, like I said earlier,

Your life is your life and where you're at right now, there's a reason you're at where you're at and you're gonna learn so much from where you're at to then get to you and propel you into future opportunities. So, Little Me, like I said, I was getting bullied, getting called every name in the book and I thought then, my life was crushed. I thought I was done and I was not even 10 years old. Where now I'm thinking, I'm on TV, I'm getting to build a platform, I'm in my dream career and Little Me, I would never have imagined that. And that's how think we should look at it with this generation is.

The reason you're at where you're at right now, it's only gonna propel you into whatever you wanna do next. And it's important to find people that genuinely like you. And that you, I'm myself in front of Chris, he's seen the worst parts of me, he's seen the best parts of me, he's seen the vulnerable parts, he's been there through breakups, he's been there through tears, sweat, everything.

Chris And Cam (30:49.859)

but we're like this and that's because we understand one another and we're both human and we both know that we both have stuff going on. Yeah. But we both know that we're decent human beings and we trust think that's why through who we've met and through who we've connected with there is so much hope because you see so many of the young generation that are feisty and wanting to do different things and I'm like, yes, that is what we That's what we want. But then you see the quieter ones and you think they're going to get somewhere too because they're just getting out of their shell. these are, this is a shout out to them specifically. Don't be afraid to just...

step out of that shell a little bit. And if you're nervous because you're thinking, my gosh, what are people going to think? Cameron and I stopped caring when people think the moment we got on TV because we thought they're going to see everything about us. cares? It doesn't matter what I do. So we post all the content we want. We do whatever we want because we're like, who cares? We only have one life. You got to live it. And I that's a motto that I think the younger generation doesn't hear enough. You literally have one life. So you got to make sure you're

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (31:38.446)

Yeah, but by the way, I think it's the motto that every generation needs to hear. I totally, listen, I totally agree that this is a great message for every generation. first of all, love, I just, you know, I love the conversation and I have just genuine affection and appreciation for you as individuals. You know, the kind of things that are important to you and your hopefulness for yourself and for the next generation is really, really powerful.

Chris And Cam (31:42.601)

Yes, any generation. Everybody here.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (32:04.588)

These are macro problems that we're experiencing. I I grew up in a generation where I didn't have the internet, I didn't have a phone, I didn't have the things. And I'm messed up in a thousand other ways. There's lots of things to mess you up. But we didn't have the same kind of pressures, some of the same kind of pressures that this new generation has, and I can appreciate that that's difficult. But I love that you have genuinely hopeful for people to find their true authentic self.

Chris And Cam (32:06.671)

Mm-hmm.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (32:30.444)

that lack not comparing their journey to someone else. And I do think there is so much pressure in society to say, you know, at this age, you should achieve this and this. And the journey that you're talking about is very similar to my journey. I lived my, my wife and I lived our lives sort of reverse engineered. and what I mean by that is, is that I also wanted to be involved in helping community and to do a bunch of things. I was raised actually in government housing.

in the community where we live. And my mom taught us to give back and to support and do all these things. And so when I was in my, when I got married, I got married when I was 20. In my early 20s, we started having a family. And you know, it was very much, you know, needed to get a job, needed to do this, needed to provide. But we actually lived our lives backwards in that we actually went into the not-for-profit space for a number of years.

Chris And Cam (33:00.665)

Yeah.

Chris And Cam (33:15.887)

Mm-hmm, yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (33:23.328)

And I ran a small business on the side and I served in not-for-profit organizations without income. I didn't take a salary, I never got paid. And I did work on the side to figure out our lives. And we didn't have very much, we didn't have a lot at all, but it didn't matter. But then I got to a point where things started to change for me and I ramped up my business in a different way. And so really...

Chris And Cam (33:40.057)

Mm-hmm.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (33:49.12)

It's been since I've been in my early 40s that my business has really taken off, but it wasn't until then. But I made active choices to live differently. And again, that meant that my wife and I never went on a vacation ever without our children until we were married 20 years. We just didn't have the money. But you know what? I would not live my life differently. And so this is the challenges is that

Chris And Cam (33:53.453)

Yeah. I was going to say there's no age.

Chris And Cam (34:07.787)

Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (34:15.106)

You know, we've got, yes, we've got bills to pay. Yes, we have responsibilities to take care of. But if we get so locked up into just going out and sort of earning money for the sake of earning money, but not finding ourselves and finding something we can be passionate about like you guys are, to me, we are going to lose something. We're going to lose our soul along the way. We're going to trade something. We're going to give up something that eventually we're going to, we're going to regret giving it up.

Chris And Cam (34:39.107)

Yes. Of course. 100%.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (34:39.904)

So I'm totally tracking with the kind of things that you're talking about and I really, really love it. And it's such an encouraging message and we need more of this. mean, again, this is the challenge we live in. such a, it's a difficult day. People go and look at the news and it's not a great place. They come on your show, they get to know what's exciting, what's happening, how people are investing in the community, all the things that really make life worth living at the end of the day. And that's what really impresses me. And that's why.

Chris And Cam (34:56.685)

Yes.

Chris And Cam (35:05.326)

That's what we're here for, yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (35:08.942)

I love this conversation. Now I'm going to put a hard stop because I have another question because I like an eclectic conversation. So I'm going to put a hard stop on that. And I'm going to ask you a potentially awkward question and you can answer it any way you want, or you can refuse to answer just so you know, your refusal will be on public record. No, I'm just kidding. No pressure. You don't have to answer. And that's this. So what you guys have tethered yourself together.

Chris And Cam (35:16.215)

I love it.

Chris And Cam (35:22.723)

Okay.

Chris And Cam (35:29.335)

Okay.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (35:37.76)

in a three-legged media race, meaning it's Chris and Cam. Okay, so you put yourself together as a bundled package. It's not Chris here and Cam over here, and you do things together, although you do some separate stuff in the community, I see. But my question is, what happens one day if a big media outlet comes and says, we want Cam or we want Chris?

Chris And Cam (35:41.327)

Mm-hmm.

Chris And Cam (35:44.708)

guess.

Chris And Cam (35:52.791)

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we do.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (36:06.104)

but we don't want Chris or Cam.

Chris And Cam (36:08.269)

I think the biggest thing is naturally, we've never thought of this. We've never thought about this. But I think the biggest thing We never thought about that. No, no, that's a great question. That's a good question. logical for sure, because what if that could absolutely happen for sure, I think the biggest thing with that is we would still work together. Like think we'd always do... That's why the podcast is coming into play. That's why all of our social media work is coming into play, because we're always going to be... You know, speaking, the other things we're together.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (36:11.81)

By the way, have you ever been asked this question?

Sorry, by the way.

Chris And Cam (36:36.687)

But I think we've also built that friendship in a sense where we would be so happy for each other. Like, honestly, we're working together now. think when you asked the question, I just got so happy because I'm like, if Chris got an opportunity, be like, dude, you have to take it. Like, if you don't, I'll do it. Like, seriously, go for it. I think we trust one another and to know that we will still work with one another and we'll still have things that we do because we do social media. We do so much together. On locations, keynote speaking, we do things together that are

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (36:52.43)

Go for it!

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (37:03.266)

Yeah. Yeah.

Chris And Cam (37:06.159)

our brand that we would of course want to keep doing because that's just who we are. But if Chris got an opportunity at Wherever and he was like, can I take it? And I think that resorts back, I think that resorts completely back to when you find people that are like you and are like-minded and care about you, that was similar to our previous conversation. When you have that, when you have someone that you're able to build that trust with, that's just...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (37:10.552)

Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (37:21.964)

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Chris And Cam (37:29.999)

It's win-win-win. It's also, it's not my choice, know, if Chris wants to do it and that's his life, you know, and I'm just gonna, I want to be happy for him.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (37:30.924)

Yeah, it's great.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (37:35.34)

Yeah? By the way, I love the answer, but I wanted to ask, and just remember, if you're listening in, we don't rehearse these things, so they have no idea what questions I have. So then I've got another question for you. So when I met you, I made an assumption. I made an assumption that not only were you on air media personalities that do a show together, that you were a couple, that you guys, because you guys...

Chris And Cam (37:43.939)

Yes.

Chris And Cam (37:55.758)

I know what you're gonna say.

Yes.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (38:02.082)

You, you seriously, you got the vibe, you got the vibe thing going on. So I got the question. So, I, but from following you on social media now, I get the sense that's probably not true. That you're not a couple. You're a brother, sister thing. So do people, do people often make the mistake that I made when they meet you? Okay. Okay.

Chris And Cam (38:04.889)

We get that a lot.

Chris And Cam (38:13.197)

Nope. We're like a brother-sister relationship totally. Yes.

Chris And Cam (38:21.515)

Yep. you know what's funny? the first person Yeah, you're not the first person. But a lot of people make that assumption, but they don't say anything about it. So when we eventually address it, they'll be like, oh, I thought you guys were. You guys were dating. I thought you guys were dating. Oh, that's not your boyfriend? Because I'll say, my boyfriend. And be like, that's not your... I'm like... No. That's like my sister. We're like, yeah. We're literally like, he's my little brother. Like, that's just We just have a sibling relationship. Like, I want to beat him up sometimes. Oh my god. Like...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (38:28.706)

Okay.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (38:37.358)

They're like, no, All right, OK. Yeah, yeah.

Chris And Cam (38:47.947)

On TV we're all bubbly, but believe me behind the scenes, you've gotten into it a little bit. We have such a good friendship. I am dating somebody else. I am in a relationship with somebody else for the past two years. Chris actually went through a breakup with me during We just have that relationship. And then I met my now boyfriend and he knows. I've actually known Chris longer than I've known and been dating my boyfriend now. But it's funny, a lot of people are like, that's not you. But I love it though when they don't say anything because they won't say anything and they'll...

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (39:03.764)

my gosh. Okay, look at that. Okay.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (39:12.43)

Not yeah

Chris And Cam (39:17.711)

they'll come on the show like two or three times and the third time they'll be like, I thought you guys were. And we're like what? No.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (39:22.913)

So listen, by the way, if you hang around with me long enough, you're going to learn something that no question that comes in my head gets unasked. So I just ask the questions. that that and I could, I mean, I was tracking on social media. OK, so I got a couple of questions. Then recently there was a social media clip and this is going to be I don't want to creep you out, but you'll know how much I follow you. So in the social media clip, you were backstage and Cam, you were trying to put on a pair of boots or something and

Chris And Cam (39:30.657)

It's okay. Good. I love it.

Chris And Cam (39:50.544)

Yes!

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (39:51.86)

And I want to know, I want to know where it got edited. Did you, did you fall over anytime during this dance to try to put that shoe on or did you, did you make, did you make it out unscathed?

Chris And Cam (39:59.247)

So many so it was just like It was just a random video and you know was so funny about that video Tim the boots are not hard to get on okay I was faking that okay that video was It was just cool acting skills are great. It was just was like oh like this is kind of funny like I can't get these boots on so I was like okay Well, I've got boots like let's just kind of so I was like I was standing up and I was like trying to get the boot on

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:10.178)

well you were fi- well you were-

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:18.168)

That was golden.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:23.68)

I know, by the way, you had me and it was great. And by the way, I do want a sequel though. I want to see Chris trying to put the boots on. That's what I want to see next time.

Chris And Cam (40:26.124)

It was good!

Chris And Cam (40:30.743)

i mean honestly i almost did fall like i fell quite a few times trying like before like filming other i did a couple other videos that didn't get posted those ones i fell you go through our drafts on our phone you would see so much but that was

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:34.882)

That's pretty funny.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:39.458)

Yeah.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (40:42.828)

Yeah. Well, you guys, listen, you guys, mean, part of your background obviously is what you're doing, but you obviously are also social media managers. And I know that you have some paid work that you do around that for others and stuff. you manage your social really well. And, and I love, I love following and I love seeing what you're doing in the community and all of this kind of stuff. just so you know, you've got at least one follower. I know you've got more, but I'll be out there following you, liking those things and

Chris And Cam (40:49.102)

Yeah.

Chris And Cam (41:04.719)

Amazing. One and done. We love it.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (41:08.782)

Give me more of those, you know, the algorithm will be strong with me because I'll be like, me give me more of those putting on the boots video. There you go. I know. I know. You know, I know. I love that. So OK, so two years from now, things continue to go amazingly well. Where are you two years from now?

Chris And Cam (41:13.071)

Oh, we see all your likes, believe me. We know you're a fan. We love it.

Chris And Cam (41:28.047)

Okay, so I have this vision, actually I don't even, we actually just talked about this today. This morning. Our biggest goal is What's Buzzin? We want to make it a media agency, that's the goal. So right now we're doing everything, we're doing TV, we're doing social media management, we're doing MCing, we're doing keynote We're trying to do... We want that What's Buzzin umbrella to be everything. Broad. So we want to be the people that get called to MC at weddings, people that get called to MC events.

the ones that get called to help social media management. We want the What's Buzzin' umbrella to be not just focused on TV. It is focused on other things now, but I feel like a lot of people know us for TV. We want it to be that we're known for everything. And then just this morning, I mean, I can put this out in the universe now, we really want to write a children's book that's kind of about, just like a paperback book, that's kind of about our story and how you can use, very similar to you, Tim, you can use a disaster like going through bullying.

to then propel you into your dream career on TV. That's kind of what the goal is, because I think we talk your comfort zone, doing things that might make you uncomfortable at first, but trying to find things that you love, like music and talking and using that to your advantage. So we thought about doing like kind of a story where we're both animals or try to make it fun and also just have something inspiring for somebody to read. We know how social media is so involved in today's world and it's so- People are comparing themselves, as we said earlier, all the time.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (42:30.402)

Yes.

Chris And Cam (42:50.851)

So having a book where you can go, we went through the hard things too, but we use the hard things to help get us to where we are. I really want to use that to inspire the younger generation to be like, yes, we can do anything because you can do anything at any age and stage.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (42:57.784)

Yes.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (43:03.916)

love it. Well, just so you know, you don't, you may not know this, but two years ago I started a small indie publishing company, book publishing company, called Flying Sparks Publishing. And so I have this idea around helping authors find a way to get their books published with not a lot of, you know, red tape and all the difficulty that goes with that. So listen, if by chance you want to pursue the book idea, I could help you get that.

Chris And Cam (43:11.63)

No way.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (43:33.198)

Idea going you probably have way more connections. You won't even need flying sparks, but if you need flying sparks, let me know I Will help I would help you get that launched and then we can get that little buck into the hands of all those kids Can you imagine school boards buying it and I could you seriously I see an opportunity here. We'll talk about that off-air We don't want to you know, we don't want to give all the secrets away Listen, this is an amazing conversation. Yes, we're I'm gonna help

Chris And Cam (43:36.519)

Tim, you're our number one fan. We were actually going to ask you about it.

Chris And Cam (43:49.027)

That's what we said.

Yeah, that's what I said today.

Yeah, but it's crazy. This was like a midnight thought. We just thought at midnight, we said, we want to do this and it's propelled into an idea.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (44:03.734)

Let's do it. Let's do it. By the way, I just released my second book and I'll tell you the first book was horrible to get released because it was just difficult. The second book is a lot easier, but you know what? It's a lot of fun and just being able to communicate. Our path to market is very different today than it used to be years ago. Just like podcasting is, simple podcast can get to market like mine does in ways that you wouldn't think possible.

Chris And Cam (44:06.744)

Yes.

Chris And Cam (44:29.667)

Yeah. absolutely.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (44:30.498)

Listen, let's bring this conversation in for nothing. I love this conversation. I know my listeners are going to love it. As I started, and I'll say this again, I have hope for the next generation when, you know, at some point I'm not going to be here, you guys are going to be here and still rocking your careers. I have a lot of faith and hope. If the world is going to be in the hands of people like you, and you're going to get into positions of influence in media, or you're going to become, I don't know, the next prime minister, I don't know what you're going to be called, come.

Chris And Cam (44:35.555)

Yay.

Chris And Cam (44:58.876)

Could you imagine? Imagine me as Prime Minister.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (45:00.29)

But I'll tell you something, all I can say is I'll have a lot of hope for the future because you guys are incredible people. You're kind, compassionate. You have tremendous influence and yet you're not full of yourselves. All of these great qualities that make you really wonderful and make you really powerful models in our community. So thanks for your contribution that you make in my community. Hey listen, if you're listening in and you don't have

Chris And Cam (45:04.591)

Thank you, Tim.

The UNCOMMODiFiED Podcast (45:29.944)

Chris and Cam in your community, too bad, you'll have to move here if you wanna see them on a regular basis, because it's local cable television. But thank you so much for your time, have an awesome day. Thanks for joining me, and again, if you listened in, you listened for a reason, I know it. So take this catalyst, all the things you heard, and move it into your world for the positive benefit of everyone around you, Chris and Cam, or Cam and Chris. Chris and Cam, thank you for joining me. Cheers.

Chris And Cam (45:32.702)

Yes, you gotta.

Chris And Cam (45:51.833)

Kam and Chris to your team. Cheers.