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Navigating the NFL Draft: Quarterbacks in Round One All Over the Place

April 28, 2024 Brian, Jeff & Craig Episode 227
Navigating the NFL Draft: Quarterbacks in Round One All Over the Place
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Navigating the NFL Draft: Quarterbacks in Round One All Over the Place
Apr 28, 2024 Episode 227
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Will Caleb Williams' off-field focus derail his on-field potential with the Chicago Bears? That's the burning question we tackle head-on in our latest Outspoken Sportscast episode. We're not just throwing opinions around; we're breaking down every angle of the NFL Draft's hottest stories—including the New England Patriots' controversial pick of Drake May and the New York Giants' puzzling strategies. And that's just the tip of the iceberg; we're analyzing the delicate dance between nurturing a rookie QB and throwing them into the NFL fire.

From scrutinizing JJ McCarthy's arm talent, debating if Bo Nix and the Broncos are a match made in heaven, we leave no stone unturned. Dive into the complexities of quarterback selection with us, and get the inside scoop on Sean Payton's strategic moves that could redefine a franchise. Our expert analysis doesn't stop at the gridiron; we shift gears to the hardwood and ice, giving you our unfiltered takes on the NBA playoffs, the Dallas Stars' NHL series, and why the dominance of "super teams" might be waning.

Join us for an episode packed with expert insights and spirited debates that only true sports aficionados can appreciate. From the NFL Draft's unexpected twists to the tenacity of the Indiana Pacers, we're serving up a full-course meal of professional sports drafting and playoff predictions. You won't want to miss a moment of the action—strap in for an unfiltered journey through the high-stakes world of sports that will leave you both informed and entertained.

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Will Caleb Williams' off-field focus derail his on-field potential with the Chicago Bears? That's the burning question we tackle head-on in our latest Outspoken Sportscast episode. We're not just throwing opinions around; we're breaking down every angle of the NFL Draft's hottest stories—including the New England Patriots' controversial pick of Drake May and the New York Giants' puzzling strategies. And that's just the tip of the iceberg; we're analyzing the delicate dance between nurturing a rookie QB and throwing them into the NFL fire.

From scrutinizing JJ McCarthy's arm talent, debating if Bo Nix and the Broncos are a match made in heaven, we leave no stone unturned. Dive into the complexities of quarterback selection with us, and get the inside scoop on Sean Payton's strategic moves that could redefine a franchise. Our expert analysis doesn't stop at the gridiron; we shift gears to the hardwood and ice, giving you our unfiltered takes on the NBA playoffs, the Dallas Stars' NHL series, and why the dominance of "super teams" might be waning.

Join us for an episode packed with expert insights and spirited debates that only true sports aficionados can appreciate. From the NFL Draft's unexpected twists to the tenacity of the Indiana Pacers, we're serving up a full-course meal of professional sports drafting and playoff predictions. You won't want to miss a moment of the action—strap in for an unfiltered journey through the high-stakes world of sports that will leave you both informed and entertained.

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Speaker 1:

All right, guys, welcome in. Welcome in. It's the Outspoken Sportscast here, brought to you by the Outspoken Network. I butchered it again, guys. How are you guys doing? It's been a while. It's been a while, it's been too long, howdy.

Speaker 3:

It's been too long.

Speaker 1:

Way too long. All right, guys. Well, obviously we're on to talk about. Well, we got quite a bit to talk about. We got the NFL draft that took place over this weekend, we've got the playoffs for hockey and NBA, and then baseball has started as well, so we got a lot of sports on at the same time. The NFL draft we had some interesting picks here. We'll go over the top 10 to 15 picks and then, um, we'll, we'll discuss those picks, um, and then we'll talk about our own teams. So well, everybody knew who was going number one. I don't think we really had to discuss it. I mean, no one, no one, had a different number one pick. Caleb williams goes number one to the chicago bears.

Speaker 1:

Um, I don't know you guys feel about caleb williams. I hope, hope, being a Packers fan, that he is an absolute bust. I think I think his ability is is pretty good. I just don't know, if he's there, if he's going to put the work in and the mental toughness is there for for the NFL. I've kind of gone. I've kind of flip-flopped on him. I was thinking a bust, but I don't know. I think he's going to pan out well for the Chicago Bears. Unfortunately, how do you guys feel about Caleb Williams?

Speaker 3:

I mean, when it comes to NFL drafts and it comes to first-round picks, I mean, they don't really. They're kind of what are they batting Like?

Speaker 1:

yeah, they're not very good.

Speaker 3:

I mean, oh, for what now? So I mean, there, you know it, it doesn't always pan out, and so I it's, we'll see. You know, he he kind of acted a little strange, um, you know, with kind of I think Craig and I hit on this uh, maybe a few episodes back, but you know just the fact that he wants stock options and and what is it? Uh, ownership of, ownership piece of the team that he's going to be on, and and just weird stuff, before he even snapped the ball in the NFL, kind of a problem. The one thing I just you know, does he have the ability to? You know the, the, the skillset? I do, I think.

Speaker 3:

I mean obviously yes, but does he have the mental stability to to really kind of be there in the spotlight and make it to that level? I don't know. I mean, he kind of broke down at one point during the season when he was getting demolished. That's not really a great character trait. I think you want to see someone kind of just hunker down and figure it out, you know. So it is interesting, but who are they going to go with? It would have been interesting if they didn't go with him, but it would have made things way interesting I mean trait wise.

Speaker 2:

Trait wise I mean he can make all the throws, he can kind of read the defenses, but the biggest jump in sports is from college football to the NFL the speed, the power, what these guys bring to the table. They haven't seen anything like it. And when you put him in front of the top teams, the teams that were ranked, he never played well. When he played a bowl game, when he played a big conference game, when he played the rival team, he just didn't have the, the knockout numbers. My biggest red flag with him is work ethic.

Speaker 2:

It's not going to be, he's not going to be the first guy in the door, the last one out, going and and meeting these receivers and taking them out and working on the side before OTA, before training camp, learning the playbook. Is he going to put all that effort in? And I just don't think he is and I think you're going to see a huge lag. Like, does he eventually get there? Maybe, but I don't think right away. Maybe, but I don't think right away. I don't think he's going to come out here and be like CJ Stroud and put the team on their back and go from two wins to a playoff team. I don't think he does that. I've never thought he was going to do that. The guy is more about money. He's more about fame and putting my name on cereal boxes and getting the investment deals and the banking deals and the TV commercials. He's more about fame and fortune than he is about X's and O's and playing football. That's just my take on it.

Speaker 3:

He can eventually go to Dallas.

Speaker 2:

Well, I.

Speaker 1:

I'm kidding the new Trey Lance. No, you know, if you watch he can make every throw he runs out of the pocket. He'll comp him to my homes. The way he throws football, I just don't know.

Speaker 2:

That's a stretch.

Speaker 1:

I just don't know if the other part of it's there, the hard work, the dedication, the first in last out type mentality that you have to have when you make a jump to the NFL.

Speaker 2:

And I'll tell you who has that. That doesn't get talked about and he doesn't have the intangibles like the throwing deal that he has, but JJ McCarthy has all the rest of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, jj McCarthy does have that, but it's the arm talent and everything else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and he can read defenses, but he makes some throws that are like JJ, what are we doing? What did you see there?

Speaker 1:

He's better at handing the football off.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's been the offense for, I mean, I hope, the guy in San Diego I hope he's used to handing off, because that's what he's going to do, because he's got Roman, he's got Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh in the deal.

Speaker 1:

Derpy's back on with us. He says another draft, can't wait to see it for it not to matter, just so the Chiefs can win again. Anything. But that guys, anything. But that we got to take the Chiefs out. If they win again, I'm going to lose my mind. Sorry, cat, I'm over it.

Speaker 2:

They don't have a lot of competition in that division. I'll tell you that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, jeff oh taking shots. Hey, we're the only one in the division that. I'll tell you that. Sorry, jeff, taking shots.

Speaker 3:

Hey, we're the only one in the division that beat them last year.

Speaker 1:

They got a new quarterback.

Speaker 3:

We are the only team in that division that beat them last year.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about that in a little bit. Jeff here with Bo Nix going to the Denver Broncos, but the next quarterback off the list is Jaden Daniels. Go to Washington and I think that's a good pick for Washington. This guy can throw the ball, he moves around in the pocket, he's smart with it, though he's not like RG3 was and getting blasted and ended his career. Jaden Daniels, I think, can turn his franchise around and I think Washington Commander just got better.

Speaker 3:

Anybody else Go? Yeah, I do. I think the Washington Commander just got better to a degree. I think they still have a ways to go to get there.

Speaker 1:

It's a start right now.

Speaker 3:

It's a start, yeah, and I think so. They still have the owner right the same, owner the same guy no, no, no, they made them sell, they made them sell the team. They got a new head coach.

Speaker 2:

They got a new owner.

Speaker 3:

I think they're headed the right direction. I just think it's going to take time.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's a solid pick. You know, last year they had weapons, they have offensive weapons.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. But, the quarterback.

Speaker 1:

The quarterback? Who was the quarterback? They had a lot of question marks Getting rid of the ownership there that never knew how to win, that did everything in the handbook wrong to run a team they did. Now they get rid of him. Who's the coach? Craig for the Washington Commanders. They fired what's-his-face.

Speaker 2:

They fired him. They got rid of Rivera, old Riverboat Ron.

Speaker 1:

Riverboat Ron, who didn't know they could make the playoffs, set their quarterback out and lost. That was laughable. Who do they pick up? It's your freaking defensive coordinator, dan Quinn. They pick up, dan Quinn.

Speaker 2:

So they're not going to be blowing the offense up. They have a ton of talent on that side of the ball. They have some of the top wide receivers in the game, or not some of the top ones, but I mean very talented wide receivers out there. My only fear with Daniels is does he abandon the progressions and go to his legs before?

Speaker 1:

you know, rather than hang in there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Does he abort the mission and take it on his back and run A lot of these quarterbacks these days. That's what you see.

Speaker 1:

One reading, they're out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one guy checked down. I'm out and they're running and it's going to get you hurt. It got Anthony Richardson hurt, it got you know. I mean these guys are too big, too strong, too fast. You can't just be out there running around. I don't. This guy surprised me because when we're sitting there last year and the Heisman gets announced, I'm like who is this? Where did you come from? But he had one of the most offensive. I mean that offense was averaging 40 a game. I mean they were just hanging points on everybody. Obviously they didn't have a defense that could keep people under 40, or else they'd have been winning it in the playoff and things like that. But reminds me of the season that Patrick Mahomes had. You know, he would put up a ton of yards, a ton of points, but the you know Texas Tech couldn't play defense, so they never won any football games. I think he's going to be okay. I think he's going to be okay, but I think it's going to be more down the line instead of right away.

Speaker 2:

I think Jane Daniels makes the bigger impact in three or four years, rather than you know than, because I mean that division is pretty tough. I mean you've got the Eagles, you've got Dallas, you know Giants, they didn't do anything, whatever they're out.

Speaker 1:

But I mean they don't have a quarterback.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I still. Yeah, deer in the headlights over there. So, yeah, I think probably they're a year or two out from competing from the division. You give them a couple years to learn offenses and learn the schemes and learn the you know language and everything like that and read some defenses that he hasn't ever seen before. And yeah, I think he's going to be okay, but not right away.

Speaker 1:

I mean they're going to take the bumps and bruises. I think we're going to see. You want to see the team make a little progression this year. The Washington Commanders they brought over the offensive coordinator from the Washington Huskies last year with Pennix Jr there, so they had a good year offensively. We'll see if Jayden Daniels can turn it around there. Dan Quinn will focus in on the defense, but it's a good pickup for them. You got Drake May going to North Carolina or from North Carolina going to the Patriots Interesting pick. You know, drake May is the guy that a lot of times a lot of people thought was going to go to Washington or go to, yeah, washington Commanders. He's got a solid arm. I haven't really watched too much of his game.

Speaker 2:

That's because there's not a lot to watch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he doesn't. He didn't play in, you know, big. Yeah, he didn't play in big teams. He didn't play all that. He can make some good throws. He runs with his legs a little bit. He's able to move around in the pocket. My thing with going to New England is are they going to surround him with talent? Because I don't care who you are, if you don't have any talent, if your team's not going to have talent around you, it would be very hard to win, and I think Drake May is going to need more talent on this team than other quarterbacks might. But he's a decent pick. I don't know. He's either a franchise quarterback later in, you know, years from now. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think people were talking about you know it was this toss up. You know, is, is it? Is it going to be? Is the is the right choice?

Speaker 3:

Uh, these other quarterbacks, drake may, like I know Drake may was tied to a bunch of different teams, um, so it was kind of interesting to see where he was going to go, uh, but you know, everybody was so focused on Caleb Williams. It was like a lot of these other guys just kind of got overshadowed a little bit and then, and then they weren't really looked at a whole lot. I mean, they were a little bit towards the end, I think, because people realized, you know, hey, there's other quarterbacks in this, in this draft, that are actually pretty decent, and so I mean we'll see what, what, what Drake may will turn into. I mean we'll see what Drake May will turn into. I mean he, you know New England is, they're kind of a ways away. They kind of had to reset a lot. Now they don't have their coach. It would have been interesting to see Drake May under a Bill Belichick system and see maybe what?

Speaker 2:

no, no, it wouldn't because he hated it he hated it Really. He eviscerated him on ESPN when they drafted him, oh wow. He said he doesn't have this. He throws bad shots. He takes bad reads I mean he eviscerated him. I mean there's no way they'd pick him if Belichick by the way he talked on deal. Wow, I mean, there's no way they pick him if Belichick's there. By the way, he talked on deal.

Speaker 1:

I forgot who it was, but they said Drake Mays is the quarterback you draft if you want to lose your job. Oh wow, there's not a lot of hope. There's not a lot of guys backing him up this is.

Speaker 2:

He had a ton of really good college tape but there wasn't a lot of it and he never played the big name college schools because he played for duke and so he looked really good with with the talent he was against. But when you go and put him in the NFL, does he put the time, does he put the effort, does he have the talent and the skill set to play up against the big kids? And I think he does. But I think he's in the wrong spot. I think he needed to be behind somebody for a couple years and learn and throw and do all this. He's not your let's fix the problem, he's your let's prep him for a couple years down the road. So I think by being in New England and being thrown, just like Mac Jones when you were thrown into the limelight, I don't think it's success. I think they set him up to fail.

Speaker 3:

No, and I completely agree. I think it's. I'm not going to compare the two, but I think it's a Jordan love situation or a uh, uh, even an Aaron Rogers situation. I'm not saying he's Aaron Rogers, but I'm saying Rogers sat behind a hall of fame quarterback. Um, then came into the league and Love sat behind a Hall of Fame quarterback or a future Hall of Fame quarterback, and now is starting. So I think, yeah, you're absolutely right there. There are some quarterbacks that can go in it right away, and then there are some quarterbacks that are going to have to sit and learn, and you know, the two examples we've given are green bay right because of barb rogers and jordan love.

Speaker 1:

But not a lot of teams do that.

Speaker 2:

They don't draft, and it may be the way it was that used to be the the, given how it was done.

Speaker 1:

Now they don't do it anymore yeah, now you bring a guy in and especially, especially, you bring a guy in like c, especially, you bring a guy in like Caleb Williams, number one pick, he's expected to change it around. Drake, may, I don't know. I think you're exactly right. When, when you come from, when you come from LSU or you come from USC or you come from an Alabama where you're playing big SEC games, which is kind of like playing in the NFL I could see them coming straight away. But when you're in North Carolina Zach Wilson played for BYU, now they didn't. I don't see much of them coming in. They didn't come in the NFL and take it over by storm. Jordan Love came from BYU as well, but he sat behind Aaron Rodgers. He was able to learn, I think that's the way to go.

Speaker 2:

He made the throws in practice. He got to see the speed. He got to see the looks. He got to see Aaron Rodgers standing behind him going. Don't make that throw.

Speaker 1:

And it's hard to have it because you've got to first get your amazing quarterback and then you have to be able to draft one and say hey, aaron Rodgers, we just drafted your glove, which there was animosity there with all that. Everyone was going crazy. So it's a lot of finagling.

Speaker 2:

You've got to draft a guy who's 27 years old already and let him sit for four years and he'll be 40 before he plays.

Speaker 1:

But I think that's more of the path and that's a whole other podcast we could talk about.

Speaker 2:

That's more of the path that these guys should take instead of hey come, fix my franchise and you only have they have like three years, all the pressure just dumping on this guy and be like well, if you don't do it, you're going to get you know, blasted in the media for years.

Speaker 1:

All right, marvin Harrison Harrison Jr goes to the Arizona Cardinals at number four, and what a waste. Such a great talent, he is the best wide receiver in the draft, hands down Absolute beast. And they draft him to an Arizona team. That is far away. I don't like their quarterback in Murray. I'm not a big fan, never have been a big fan of his. And speaking of work ethic, I think murray is right there with all that would with the question marks. This guy's an absolute stud. Yeah, this guy's an absolute stud. There's there's no way fans are butts about it the type of guy that I mean larry fitzgerald type of guy you hold on to. He's going to catch whatever you throw up the ball. He's going to be mr consistency, but I the ball. He's going to be Mr Consistency. But I hate that. We're going to have to. We want to watch it. We've got to tune in and watch some Arizona football on that. I don't like that part of it At all At all. I don't know you guys high on the Cardinals or Kyle Murray?

Speaker 3:

I don't think anybody no no, I thought that's a horrible. I was like that's the worst place he could have gone.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, oh, terrible, terrible. Um, joe, all with a charge. This was an interesting one because of Jim Harbaugh. What were they going to do? Are they going to get? Were they going to go off into weapon here for their quarterback? They lost Keenan Allen to the Bears in the offseason. They go with Joe Holt and now Joe Holt is an absolute unit.

Speaker 1:

Monster 6'8", 315 pounds. No one's getting around him. This guy is an absolute beast. I'm glad to see that they protected their quarterback, but it's a fantastic pick. It's not that sexy pick. It's not that. Oh, I got an awesome offensive weapon, but you did get a guy to protect your quarterback. Give him more time.

Speaker 2:

Go quarterback and run the football a thousand times a game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Joe, he's an absolute unit. Gats on, he said go cheese. You know what's funny about that.

Speaker 3:

You know what's funny about that, buddy? You know what's funny about that? That tackle the. Uh, joe alt, people were just like when they announce anytime, you know, you know when fans are like, oh, you know like they, it's not like the wide receiver, it's not a quarterback, it's not, and and they hear like a lineman, they're just like and I'm like. You know how important that is like yeah, it's kind of a big deal, yeah, but I think quarterback keeps your quarterback standing.

Speaker 3:

You know it's never it's never that sexy pit that people are like yeah, you don't ever see those fans react that way. It's usually like they'll move to the camera, to the fans, and the fans are like. They're like oh, I guess so To me and where he was taken at number five.

Speaker 1:

Usually when you have number five, you want a game-changing offensive player or defensive player or whatever. You know what I mean. Right To me, that says something about Joel. That means he's taken to the top five.

Speaker 2:

That means this guy's going to come in day one. But a few years ago this used to be the thing you look back at. Four or five years ago it used to be the offensive lineman was one and two, you know, or the defensive lineman, you know, I don't know. I think it's a solid pick. I don't think you can go wrong.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

I think it's a great pick.

Speaker 2:

This guy's a day one starter, and no one's getting by, he comes right in. Yeah, absolutely, and solidifies that side of the line.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely Sorry, cat. Every time you say that, I throw up a little bit in my mouth. Here you go, chiefs, you call it jealousy, whatever you want. Pick number six, malik Nabors, wide receiver, to go into the Giants going somewhere where they don't have a quarterback. We wondered what was going to happen. Are they going to take a quarterback? Are they going to reach on a JJ McCarthy? Are they going to reach on a Bo Nix here? Where were they going? To go with it.

Speaker 1:

And they have. They don it and they have nothing. Their quarterback is terrible.

Speaker 2:

Malik neighbors, you're not on the Daniel. Jones train Gosh.

Speaker 1:

It was sarcasm, I was like what Giant fans aren't even on. This Did I miss something Did I miss Jeff jumping on the Danny Dimes train.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Danny.

Speaker 1:

Dimes.

Speaker 3:

The invisible sniper train yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know if Giants fans are on the Danny Dimes train.

Speaker 2:

Can I wide open like a deer in the headlights?

Speaker 1:

This guy is a great talent. There's no argument there. It's just another wide receiver to a team that doesn't have a great quarterback and he's even worse off than Harrison Jr over there in Arizona. So, yeah, not excited for that pick. Maybe the Giants fans are, but until they figure out the quarterback situation then you didn't really get better. With that first-round pick, tennessee gets a JC Latham, an offensive tackle in Alabama. Solid pick here, easy to protect. He's not that sexy pick but he's going to protect your quarterback. And they're going all in with Will Levis. Good for them to draft somebody and let's go all in with them. They believe in him. So we'll see how that goes. And the head-scratching pick of the whole NFL draft is number eight, the Atlanta Falcons, michael Penix Jr. And now look, I'm a big Michael Penix Jr fan. I thought last year he was fantastic, thought he should have been the MVP or Heisman Trophy winner. This is nothing on Michael Pinnock's. This is everything on Atlanta. You sign Kirk Cousins to a four-year deal $180 million $100 million guaranteed $180, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You draft a quarterback who's the oldest quarterback coming out of college football this year? Is he sitting for four years and he'll be close to 30 by the time that happens.

Speaker 2:

Wow. Well, that's the thing, because your second contract is where you make your money. Obviously, the rookie contract isn't. It's on the rookie contract for a reason. So now, how is he going to show his talent to get his big deal, when he only when Jordan loves it and has, you know, a year left and they go? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

You better hope that your quarterback Cousins rips his other Achilles and fits you on the field.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean and that's what this is, that's what it has to be is just an absolute emergency plan to still have something behind him. When they think that it's just a fallback plan, that's what it has to be. There's no other explanation as to make a guy sit. I think Kirk. Cousins' contract is now a two-year deal.

Speaker 1:

It's a two-year deal. Now I don't think.

Speaker 2:

I guess, with $100 million guaranteed, I guess there's a loophole to get out of it.

Speaker 1:

That's basically 50 and 50 and that doesn't put you in salary cap. That's basically 50 and 50 and then.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and basically doesn't put you in salary cap nightmare. But I'd have to go look how it's structured. Is it front loaded? Is it back loaded? If they got it back loaded, there's no way to, Unless they move the money to a signing bonus and pay it out to a signing bonus and pay it out.

Speaker 3:

If they can figure out how to keep this guy healthy, then they got a great quarterback. Because if you go back 2018, acl great tear Three, great, three tear yeah. Then you go down two years, 2020, acl tear grade three, not grade three 2019, one year later, shoulder clavicle fracture.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay, then 2020, again ACL tear grade three.

Speaker 2:

Was it the same one or was it the?

Speaker 3:

other one. Yes, retore his right ACL again. All right, so that was two years later. Then one year after that, again shoulder joint separation. He missed the remainder of the 2021 season. That's a lengthy injury for college.

Speaker 2:

Not just a hamstring or a calf. You're talking done.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if he tears that ACL again, he might be done for talking done, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Done for a season and if he tears that ACL again, he might be done for his career.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. That's the only thing with Pennix, and I remember people were like oh yeah, broncos talking to Pennix. I'm like I think he's great. He was hobbling around in the national championship game holding everything. I mean.

Speaker 2:

I was like get him out of the game. You can't win Like just get him out I was like I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I mean man, that's so crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's so crazy. Well, you had the injury history, you had his age. That's why I went, especially taking him to the top 10 this year. I thought maybe he was a second-round pick, third-round pick, kind of thing. But taking him an A and look, he had a great year last year and if he can stay healthy it's great. But going to a team and look, last year we gave Atlanta the the bonehead pick of the, the the draft. When you draft to use your number one draft pick on a on a running back. Now, the running back is awesome but your team's not where it needs to be yet.

Speaker 2:

You traded up to use a pick on a running back and didn't use it. Yeah, he paid it up to use a pick on a running back and didn't use it. Yeah, then he didn't use it. That's a genius move.

Speaker 1:

I think this year, I think look and Kirk Cousins was the best pickup. In my opinion of the free agency, kirk Cousins is very highly underrated.

Speaker 2:

I think the Atlanta Falcons are going to get better he just doesn't play on prime time.

Speaker 1:

This when you could have gone out and got a defensive player, which the team does need defense. It just boggles my mind.

Speaker 3:

How's their O-line? Could have gotten? O-linemen.

Speaker 2:

No, they're pretty solid that way.

Speaker 3:

They could have gone any other route, and the problem is Go get a receiver. I mean the other problem too is Pennington Jr. Look at his age, look at the injury history and the age.

Speaker 2:

Already that is such a red flag unless they think he's going to sit and just go to the gym and strengthen everything up and get, or they're going to put him in bubble wrap when he goes out there in four years, I mean yeah.

Speaker 3:

Unless they have some of the best medical trainers you could ever imagine in all sports. I just don't know what's happening there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, yeah, it blew my mind. I texted Brian immediately. I'm like please tell me, this is a joke, like this is no way.

Speaker 1:

Insane. The Chicago Bears at number nine. They had two top ten picks. This year they go out and get an absolute great wide receiver. I thought he was the second best wide receiver in college football last year. Romain Adunze from Washington Great wide receiver. You add that with Caleb Williams if he pans out with him and DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, they have some weapons now in Chicago, and the last team that had two top ten picks was last year and they turned their franchise around in Houston with Stroud and their defensive with Anderson. So we'll see it's going to be that for Chicago. They're hoping it is, but Romain Dunze is an absolute stud of a wide receiver. Good luck Green Bay. Good luck Green Bay. The Minnesota Vikings give their left arm to move up to number 10 here and they draft JJ McCarthy. Now, craig, you being a Michigan fan, tell us about JJ McCarthy before I piss all over.

Speaker 1:

I don't think it's going to pan out at all.

Speaker 2:

Jj will be the leader that will make everybody run through the wall. He will make all the throws underneath. The guy you're going to want to watch this year if anybody plays fantasy football is TJ Hawkinson, because he loves throwing the ball to a tight end and he has a stud one over there to do it to. The drawback on J, on JJ, is the deep ball. He doesn't exactly throw that well and Justin Jefferson is like yeah, that's great, thanks, I can't do any of that. He got better his senior year. They said there was a possible shoulder injury. That's why he wasn't able to throw the deep ball. He he kind of threw it better the the last year.

Speaker 1:

You saw in the playoff that he made a couple really good deep throws. Do you think I? Better be wide open huh, do you think he starts day one of the next this season?

Speaker 2:

I think, I think he starts day one over Sam Darnold. I mean, sam Darnold's a career journeyman, I don't think. I think that's the plan when, when, um, but I don't know. I mean, maybe they, maybe they're going to do the, the sit and learn thing and they, they, they take their licks and and, uh, let Darnold be the quarterback, and I think that would be best for JJ is to wait a year, but I just don't think Sam Darnold's the guy to learn under, you know, I mean, it's not he's not yeah, he's not a hall of fame.

Speaker 2:

You know, I'm going to teach you everything you need to know. This guy, Sam Darnold, made his career holding a clipboard and making a ton of money at it and he's been really good at it. But I think the speed of the game, like I said before, I think the speed of the game is going to get JJ, because he made some throws in Michigan that, if you remember the game against Alabama, the first throw of the game, he throws it and the guy picks it off and I'm going JJ, what are you doing? Luckily, the guy picks it off and I'm going JJ, what are you doing? Luckily, the guy's foot was out of bounds and we got the ball back.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, JJ is the nicest kid you ever want to meet His mental side. His mental game is light, years above everybody. He's going to sit at the end zone and he's going to meditate before every game with his shoes sitting on the goal line and his headphones on and you know deal and he'll get you through any situation. He knows how to check down, he knows how to read, but there's just the arm talent. He's not top-tier arm talent, he's mid-grade arm talent.

Speaker 3:

And you can get and honestly, like I look at it, like you can get away with that, yes, you can At some point, because if you, if you know that, if you're not the guy, that says I can make that throw and continue to try to make that throw.

Speaker 2:

If you're not Tony Romo and go, I can make that throw and I'm going to make it, then, yes, you can get away with that, not to compare them. You can bust right down the field.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, not to compare them, I'll give you a quarterback. That couldn't make that throw downfield constantly, and he was a Hall of Famer, peyton Manning. That dude could not make long darts downfield, especially at the end of the career, right, yeah, so what his strength was was his mind, yep. What his strength was was reading defenses and setting up audibles and knowing how to attack a defense before they even came at him.

Speaker 2:

Jj McCarthy will be the first one in the door and the last one out. You're going to hear about him going and taking the guys to the beach and throwing routes and he'll be at Justin Jefferson's house in the backyard throwing footballs, and that's what you'll hear.

Speaker 1:

Uh, get worried, brian, they're coming yeah all right, your division's come on, this was the biggest reach this draft. I think jj mccarthy is not going to turn out to be that great. Um sounds like a wonderful person, right, and you know he has that mentality of I'm going to work hard, but I just don't think it's there for the NFL.

Speaker 2:

Only last decade to beat Ohio State three times.

Speaker 1:

With the arm talent. I just don't think it's there. People were talking about the Chargers trading Herbert for him. I'm like get out. No, john Harbaugh.

Speaker 2:

That was shot that much where he thinks he's better than Justin Herbert. I'm going to trade him. Trade Herbert, but it wasn't for McCarthy.

Speaker 1:

Crazy. No, I just think it's a reach. I think the Minnesota Vikings going to go next season and not really have a quarterback.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, I mean I think he needed to go someplace where he, if you wanted to be, if Atlanta wanted to make that move, it would have been better to take McCarthy and make that move.

Speaker 1:

That would have been perfect. Sit behind Cousins.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but him coming in starting day one next year I don't think it's going to go too well, so I'm not too concerned about it.

Speaker 2:

I hope just because I like JJ, I hope, but from what I see and what I watch for. But then again, I didn't think Tom Brady was worth a sneeze at Michigan either. He didn't do anything and we'll see how that worked out.

Speaker 1:

Tom Brady is a whole different.

Speaker 2:

I cussed Tom Brady's name more times on Saturday afternoon than you can ever imagine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, well, we're going to jump, you know.

Speaker 2:

That's why I don't like him, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I had to watch him for all those years and he sucked and then he comes in as the greatest quarterback on the planet Earth.

Speaker 1:

I'm like what?

Speaker 2:

was that for all those years, tom Mystery relevant? Yeah, what was that?

Speaker 1:

for all those years. Tom Mystery relevant. Yeah, let's jump to number 12. And Jeff has his future quarterback, Bo Nix, in Denver. I think we've pretty much called this. That was going to be a guy. I think Bo Nix is better than JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2:

He just didn't play for Michigan. He has more arm talent.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, his arm talent's better. What do you look forward to In this season With your quarterback?

Speaker 3:

Well, it was kind of nerve-wracking Watching some of the picks coming in. It was kind of like man, I know who they're really going for and I'm just hoping that that guy's still there Because, honestly, at this point, picks coming in, it was kind of like man, I know what, I know who they're really going for and I'm just hoping that that guy's still there because I honestly, at this point there were like rumors, even going into this, that they're gonna, oh, they're gonna, trade up, they're gonna get rid of patrick sirtan, and I'm like what? No, like don't do that um. And then it was like, oh, they're you know. It's like, oh, they're gonna trade down. And I'm like, well, if that's the case and zach will, no, I don't know about that um. And so it was kind of weird um, zach wilson, train huh, oh, no, no, no, um.

Speaker 3:

So I was just like, I was like I don't know what's gonna happen, but as it was coming down, I'm kind of going all right, I'm seeing. And then, as soon as whenever the because I start picking up, like, okay, who t? What team's gonna look for quarterbacks, which aren't, I'm like the jets don't, they're not going to, they're waiting for. As whenever the because I start picking up like, okay, who team, what team's gonna look for quarterbacks, which aren't? I'm like the jets don't. They're not going to, they're waiting for rogers to get healthy, um, you know. So I'm like, okay, who are they? Who you know what else? And then when I saw the vikings trade up, I was like, oh man, I was like please don't, because I know that's what the broncos want to get is bonex.

Speaker 3:

So then, as soon as they said jj mccarthy, I was like yeah, I thought he might have gone there, but no, yeah, there was rumors about that, but I think sean payton he admitted that he made a scope, a smoke screen on that jj mccarthy information, um, so he was, I think they think, throwing people off a little bit, um, but uh, everything that I've seen video analysis about this guy he is the most Sean Payton quarterback in this entire draft. He is his awareness. I've seen film breaking down where his vision, his awareness, his smarts of taking a look at defenses, throwing them off, which is pretty mind-boggling to me when you start to see some of those plays where he threw that defense off, they didn't even realize it. So this dude his dad was played in the NFL as a quarterback learned from him a lot. I think this guy is. He's mature, crazy mature um, married, like dude's been in the league for a long time. I think he he set the ncaa record for for most starts uh, 61 in college football. Um, which is pretty nuts, uh, to be able to start pretty much that that many games. I mean it shows you kind of how pretty good you are when you have talent coming in and out all the time, um, so it's he's. He's an interesting, I mean an accurate um, safe with the ball. I think the rumor was he doesn't have a deep ball threat. I'm like I that's hard, you know.

Speaker 3:

Sean payton talked about that. Afterwards he said we did break that down. We took that, that, that's that whole era, out of there and then looked free, re-evaluated his game. One of the things I think that sean payton got him the reason that he wanted him was because they did an analysis, like they when they met with him in eugene oregon. So when they went down there they gave him a plan like a packet and they said tomorrow we'll go over this. So basically they gave him this packet plan of plays and whatever. Next day they come back and they're going over it and he's telling them all this stuff.

Speaker 3:

They threw curve balls in that to see if he caught him and he did. They wanted to make sure he was actually reading this stuff and not just saying, oh, okay, you know. So this guy's a smart dude. Like I think out of this is the one where people were like, oh, they should have waited till round two. I'm like he wouldn't have been there round two, like I I don't believe for one second he would have been there round two. Um, but I I agree with a second. He would have been there round two. I agree with a lot of the analysis. He could be ready to go now based off just the experience in the league, based off of the maturity.

Speaker 2:

That's why he stayed an extra year at Oregon, I think.

Speaker 1:

If y'all would have let him go, Atlanta would have drafted him for Pennix's backup. His future, their third future quarterback.

Speaker 3:

So, no, I love the pick. I think that it's exactly what I mean. This was Sean Payton, 100% and you could tell right away. You know they like this guy. This was their. I think Sean Payton afterwards said this was their third guy on the list. Um, obviously, caleb williams won and and then the the quarterback who went um after caleb williams uh, was, I think, second on the list. So they this was out of those, because those were out of reach and they knew that. But in terms of quarterbacks that they wanted, that they desperately really wanted, based off of the way sean payton runs to run the offense, based off of the way that this guy's style is already um and the way he played in the game in college, this was their third dude that they realistically had a shot at trying to grab. So I I think this was an awesome pick. I love it. I like the guy. A lot of the fans are ready to watch this guy play.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm interested to see him play too. He went from Auburn who played decent there, but you saw him grow up when he went to Oregon, saw him play better and he finally got your future quarterback and see what sean payton can, can mold them into.

Speaker 3:

So I think a blank canvas is. Is is perfect for for a coach like sean payton for a quarterback. You know, russell wilson wasn't his guy. Um, these are completely different quarterbacks too in terms of style. You look at russell wilson, you look at bo nicks are completely night and day different. Um, they even broke down. There was a YouTube video. Guy broke down the almost exact play Russell Wilson ran and Bo Nix, um, a few of them, and they ran them completely different. Russell held onto the ball too long.

Speaker 3:

Bo Nix gets the ball out fast, super quick, like um, so I mean he, he. That's why I think Sean Payton likes him a lot too, because it's like bam, bam, you have a quarterback that can get rid of the ball quick. Guess what? It's similar to how Aaron Rodgers is. Aaron Rodgers got the ball super fast all the time. You just couldn't. There was a guy that eventually we drafted it's later on in the draft but he was an edge rusher and really good guy and they were like you went up against he go. What was the toughest thing to do? You know, go up against Bo Nix. He's like he gets the ball too fast, can't get him. So I'm like geez, it's like that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

All right, guys, let's your top 10 picks and 12 here. Let's go through our individual teams. Craig, you want to tell us how you think the Dallas Cowboys did and kind of maybe a couple picks of theirs that you liked didn't like.

Speaker 2:

I mean I like the first-round pick, the tackle, but I think he's kind of a project. He's kind of like Tyler Smith was. I don't know if he can come in and play right away. I mean he's going to because they don't have anybody, but I don't know if he succeeds right away, or or, um, he, he, he has the skillset, he just doesn't have the, the. I think he needs some molding and and everything like that. Um, the pick I like the most is the linebacker from Notre Dame. Um, that guy flies around the field and makes tackles and you know. So I think they filled a lot with need. I'm concerned with running back because they didn't draft one. They go get Zeke back, supposedly.

Speaker 1:

That's still rumor, right.

Speaker 2:

No, it's almost a done deal now. From what I read last night, they're just kind of hammering out the money. Basically, he's back in the building. I would say by Monday or Tuesday it'll be completely official. But I just I feel bad because of how they're putting everything on the shoulders of Prescott and not giving him a whole lot around him, and yet he'll get blamed for it. And so we'll see. I mean new coaching staff on the defensive side of the football. They've lost a lot of people. They've lost a lot of talent. Um, it'll be interesting to see. Um. They did draft another cornerback, don't really know about about him, because he was so late in the the deal or wake forest kaylin, yeah arson, yeah, so um, we'll see.

Speaker 2:

I you know, I mean they drafted a wide receiver and nflcom, you know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, they drafted a wide receiver and NFLcom gave you a minus. So they said you did pretty good. We got an A minus too, did you? Yeah, okay, I was going to ask.

Speaker 2:

There was no way I would have. I would have said you can go, you can go to any, any site and kind of find different things.

Speaker 1:

I found a site that gave Green Bay a C. This site, NFLcom, gave them a B. I have Broncos on a B-.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Pro Football Focus, I think, gave us an A-.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, that website is trash.

Speaker 1:

PFF no one really likes PFF.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anything that has.

Speaker 1:

Chris Collinsinsworth name attached to it. The green bay gotta be. This is kind of interesting one for me because we had 11 picks, which was awesome when you have a. We have that. We have a tie for the most picks with us in arizona, I believe.

Speaker 1:

Um, it wasn't a draft of sexy stars, it was. This is what we need and this is what we're going to take. We took our first round. Our first draft was Jordan Morgan, an Arizona offensive tackle. Well, we need offensive line help. Was it that amazing superstar player? No, but I think Jordan Morgan is going to come in here day one and be able to start on an offensive line.

Speaker 1:

I think my favorite pick is the Texas A&M linebacker he was graded to be the highest linebacker in the draft and Edger and Cooper. He also is really good at rushing the quarterback, so I like that. He's versatile, we can move him around. Then we get a running back um a little bit later from usc um, he's a hard runner, so he's a guy that can catch the ball of the backfield, kind of replace aaron jones, um. So we'll see how we do. I. I like it. I do like brian gutenkoos. A lot of some fans hate our general manager, but he's been. Last year he hit on a billion picks. Look how young our team is. We're one of the youngest teams in the league the guys that are producing. So I trust him full-heartedly and I thought that B-grade is probably where he should have been. So I'm excited to go in forward here and see what Jordan Love can do. Jeff, we talked about your quarterback already. What are some other? Maybe draft picks that you liked at Denver, or maybe that you didn't like that Denver got?

Speaker 3:

I actually I kind of like what they've done. I don't have a whole lot of like. One of the things, one of the things that stood out to me was let's see, where is he? I thought I just had him up here. No, troy Franklin, wide receiver out of Oregon. So that was kind of cool because I was like, okay, that's interesting, he was actually ranked he was supposed to be. They hadn't even had him as he would not even fall that far um, they actually had.

Speaker 2:

It's always good to have a receiver that the quarterback's been throwing to for you exactly, exactly, so I think that you mix that with sutton.

Speaker 3:

Uh, there are rumors yeah, they, they, you might. A lot of people are like, okay, well, what are we going to do with sutton? Like, is sutton going to be moving or not? I don't know. He's kind of holding out for an extension. I don't know if the Broncos will do it, but he was phenomenal last year.

Speaker 3:

So I mean you pair that with Sutton, a good veteran wide receiver, with a young wide receiver, with your quarterback that's looking to make a name for himself. I think it's a very interesting um thing, because those are, I mean that that's a pretty cool. And plus, you know, you the veteran wide receiver can, can also mentor uh this kid and and be that kind of uh, that kind of bridge uh to the nfl in some in some way shape or or form. The other guy that really really really stood out to me and he got a lot of flack because he ran the worst 40-yard dash in draft history, but I think it's Audrick Estime or something. I can't remember if I pronounced that first name right, but Estime, this dude is a running back for Notre Dame. Um, he's like five, 11 to 21. This dude is like, he's like a tank, he's like a bowling ball dude, um my goodness.

Speaker 3:

So he, some of. I looked at back at some of his stuff, stuff, because I had never heard of this guy before and I'm like what is this? So I look and I'm like gosh, he's huge. So what I think is goal line stances this guy's built for that. Like just bowling ball through people. Oh man, just bowling ball through people, dude, like that is a perfect, perfect thing to with um, with the running backs we have now. So, uh, I like that because that was kind of under the radar. There's a few un, uh, un, what is it? Uh, undrafted players that we did grab um to kind of help solidify some stuff. Uh, but uh, the two that stood out to me was that running back and and the wide receiver from Oregon, because you can tell kind of it was an offense-heavy. I mean we had some defensive players but they were really focused on offense to get the ball rolling.

Speaker 1:

This whole draft was offensive-heavy. They said there wasn't a whole lot of defensive standouts that were flying off the board, so I think it leaned offensive heavy. I don't think a defensive player was taken until 15 or 16 or something like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:

It was all offense, all right. Well, that's the NFL draft. We'll cover the top ten picks. We talked about our teams. Let's head into a little NBA action here. As they're in the playoffs, boston Celtics lead Miami Heat two games to one. I think they'll probably win out the rest of the series. Heat took game two. Boston is the favorite to win in the East. I think they probably will. You got the Knicks and the 76ers, and this one's kind of interesting because the Knicks have been really good this season. The 76ers have been banged up. They missed Joe LNB a lot this season and without him they don't have a shot at winning. The New York Knicks are up two games to one. We'll see if.

Speaker 3:

They're playing right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're playing right now. We'll see if they're playing right now. Yeah, they're playing right now. We'll see if Joel Embiid can stay healthy, because without him the 76ers are a completely different team, and Jalen Brettson is just Absolute beast over there in New York. He turned it around over there, so that's good for him. He wasn't that great in Dallas, but sometimes it takes leaving and finding your own thing over there.

Speaker 2:

He's the number one guy. He's the guy over there now. He doesn't have to be in the shadows of Luka, and you know, some guys just need to be the guy, need to be the ball, you know.

Speaker 1:

You got the Pacers leading Milwaukee B bucks two games to one.

Speaker 1:

Giannis has been injured um he's missed all three games he's missed all three games and without him they're a completely different team. And and one thing that's been surprising with them is they didn't have that damon lillard. They added damon lillard in the offseason. I was like, oh, it's gonna be awesome. They haven't meshed well together. They talk about it all the time. Him and Giannis haven't found a rhythm together. They're still third in the East, but they could definitely lose a series if Giannis isn't going to be healthy to play. The Pacers are very talented. They've got a good head coach. I think the Pacers probably did pull the upset there, especially if Jonas is out. Orlando Magic and the Cleveland Cavaliers are tied at 2-2. Where did the Magic come from? The fifth seed in the East Didn't really see them coming up in the East. Who do you guys got in the Eastern Conference? If you had to say so now, who do you think is going to be in a championship?

Speaker 2:

I think Boston just has too much talent.

Speaker 1:

Porzingis has found his rhythm there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's been healthy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They do have a lot of talent.

Speaker 3:

I go with Boston as well. Yeah, I think it's pretty Pretty self-explanatory there, especially on that that side.

Speaker 1:

I think you know the Heat could give them A good matchup, but they're missing Butler, so that's a big miss. I think the best team that has a chance To beat them Is a healthy 76ers, but I just don't think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think that would be the yeah, I'm going to Pacers too.

Speaker 3:

So Pacers are an interesting team. I was watching some of them the other day and I was like gosh, they're like that's crazy, they're just, they're playing kind of like I don't know. That's an interesting team.

Speaker 2:

They're taking on the attitude of their head coach, the gritty never stop final whistle. Yeah, that's smart. That's the head coach coming through and Rick Carlisle coming through and coming out in the team is what that is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they've got some talent. They've fit some good pieces there too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they've always had some talent.

Speaker 1:

They're a nitty-gritty team.

Speaker 2:

They're just the guy putting it together and using it right.

Speaker 3:

Rick Carlisle is still a really good coach, that's crazy, oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I Rick Carlisle is still a really good coach. That's crazy. Oh, absolutely. I mean my goodness. Western Conference, you've got Oklahoma looking to Oklahoma number one seed, the Oklahoma Thunder.

Speaker 2:

Pulling it off.

Speaker 1:

They're up three games and nothing on the Pelicans. The Pelicans, they're an interesting team too. Zion Williams, when he plays, they're a lot better. They have some good talent. The Oklahoma. City Thunder are just there. I mean after years and years and years of having number one picks.

Speaker 2:

Well, they've had 437 first-round picks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and it's finally paying off finally. So we'll see.

Speaker 2:

They were trading first round picks because they were like we can't use them all.

Speaker 1:

We don't have them. Yeah, we have too many. Here you go.

Speaker 2:

We have too many here. You take a couple.

Speaker 1:

Do I think they go to the championship? No, but it's good to see.

Speaker 2:

Utah is going to be the one to beat over in the West, maybe Dallas.

Speaker 1:

Denver, you mean. Oh, yeah, Denver he said Utah, I'm like wait what the Jazz? Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Denver over.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's Joe Kickton.

Speaker 2:

Who's?

Speaker 1:

stopping him yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know, I saw the packet of him last night. He's just throwing the ball over his shoulder, shoulder, and it's like, oh, got it. Yeah. And then you know, the point guard just throwing up prayers and they're being answered.

Speaker 1:

I was hoping they'd sleep sleep LeBron James last night and he can go cry himself to sleep. That didn't happen, but they're definitely going to win the series. They're up three games to one, yeah.

Speaker 3:

You never know, they could pull a Mavericks.

Speaker 1:

They're the best team. No, not LeBron.

Speaker 3:

James? No, I'm just saying I think that wasn't Dallas up 3-0 against one of the, or did we get swept by the Way back during the Dirk era? We got swept by the Golden State Warriors. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Before they were the Splash Bros.

Speaker 1:

Talk about a disappointment. The Phoenix Suns about to get swept by. Minnesota.

Speaker 1:

Yep, they add Kevin Durant in the offseason, the Suns do, and they're going to get swept. They're a six seed. Talk about a disappointment. I love it. I hate Kevin Durant. Yeah, I can't stand that guy. Good, dallas Mavericks lead LA Cl. About a disappointment. That's. I love it. I hate kevin durant. Yeah, I can't stand that guy. Good, dallas mavericks lead la clippers two games to one. Um, now the clippers are the fourth seed, we're the fifth seed, so this would be an upset, but I think a lot of people picked the mavericks to win this game, this series. Um, you got an injured injured kawhi leonard, who he's always injured or misses half the season anyways by sitting out dallas played much better defensively in game three Gafford him being healthy is a big key to that.

Speaker 2:

The block on Paul George was sick. Paul George goes to dunk the ball and he's like get it out of here.

Speaker 3:

My problem with this is that I'm watching it and then you have people at halftime Charles Barkley and Shaq and this was in game two. Well, by the end of game two they started talking about it too, but at the end of game two they were like, oh yeah, the Clippers, they lost the game, they just were off. I'm like let's not forget how good the defense Dallas had. Really, we're going to ignore that.

Speaker 3:

The amount of steals, the amount of blocks that were being done, the closeouts that Luka was doing against Harden, Harden missing shots. What are you talking?

Speaker 1:

about. You want to say that you could say game one Dallas didn't show up. They scored eight points in the second quarter. Yeah, as a team, they just did not. They couldn't buy a bucket that game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the same thing happened last night. When Dallas plays Vegas, dallas comes out in the first period and actually dominates. Should have been up three or four, nothing. Their goalie stands on their head and the guys are like, well, vegas had a bad period. Well, maybe it's the one seed in the West playing the way they should play not well. Vegas just looked terrible. They need to come out in the second period and look better. What?

Speaker 3:

See and honestly I think we're starting to see, and especially in the NBA, we're starting to see the end of this super team BS. Like I am sick of this.

Speaker 2:

They go add Damian Lillard over to Milwaukee. Doesn't work they go add. Durant to the Suns Doesn't work. They add Chris Paul to the Warriors Doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3:

We're seeing it. It's done, it's done, it's done.

Speaker 1:

You're seeing the end of that. You're seeing the end of the Warriors. It is done. Now I still think you need to. You're going to go to. It's going to be like two players, Like the Mavericks have Luka and Kyrie.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but you will allow your other utility players that are not big-time names to play. You take a look at what happened in the last game with Dallas. They're lobbing it up to lively and he's just bam, bam, easy dunks and I'm like there, see, and then you have, you have, um, oh, what's the other dude? Uh, PJ, PJ Walker. No, I think it was PJ PJ Walker.

Speaker 3:

No, I think it was. Is it PJ Walker who is getting into fights with Westbrook? It was, it was the OK. So that guy, you just. You have these other player playmakers and they've got to step up too, so you can't just go Washington, my bad. Our PJ Washington. So you? So you can't just sit there and scratch your head and go well, you know, if we only had Durant.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, like you have other players, make them better.

Speaker 1:

Your bench is absolute garbage because you've got to afford the guys and then. So it's hope and a prayer. But I hate super team LeBron James. He was the creator of all that crap. The super teams, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don. Yeah, Boston did that first. We're seeing the end of it.

Speaker 1:

Thank goodness it made basketball unwatchable is what it did.

Speaker 3:

It was Boston doing it first, with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pearson and. Ray Allen. That was the first idea of something like that, and obviously they went on to take down the Lakers and win a championship.

Speaker 1:

But the super team era needs to end.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I think it's hilarious. The Suns being taken out by the Timberwolves, I think is hilarious. You know, I just it's great.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I will say this too. One thing, for when the Dallas Mammoths got Kyrie Irving, I was iffy.

Speaker 1:

This guy is a mental case you never know who's going to play, but I think he's really found a rhythm. You watch him play with Luka and I think he's finally focused on basketball. It seems to be he's talked about it Only focusing I only focused on basketball. It seems to be he's talked about it only focusing on winning games. Jeff you sent me the thing the other day has an interview about him. Just how I'm all about winning. That's all I want to do.

Speaker 3:

I think this is a changed player. I think this is a changed guy. I think we're seeing a different Kyrie Irving. I think that this is not the same like dude, who's just all about his numbers or getting his, getting his and you know just. I think this is a guy who he's learned to just play as a team, and maybe Lucas taught him that. I think this is a perfect fit for him and I honestly would be shocked if he did not finish his career there.

Speaker 1:

To be honest, yeah, I agree, maybe a career. I'm just hoping we keep Luke, we're able to keep Lupa here and keep him happy. I think Kyrie's start the players that. Let's talk about the players they added. You know Gaffer and Washington those two right there have been outstanding for this team and maybe that's because you know Mark Cuban did trade away some of his ownership there. They have some other guys running it.

Speaker 3:

Well, and let's also not forget Lively Jr. Goodness, like he said, I mean Gafford went down and here comes, you know, derek Lively coming out and taking over. Yeah, I mean blocking shots and rookie, rookie, Like, and I'm like this is great, Like we have this guy for a long time. This is going to be awesome.

Speaker 1:

All right, Craig, take us away with a little bit of hockey playoffs we talked about. Let's start off with the Stars you want your AR to number one. Well, I mean game one Not doing so well for them.

Speaker 2:

Game one and two. I mean one goal games. But Vegas is kind of a kryptonite matchup. Dallas is the team that wants to get out and run. They're very fast-paced. Vegas is more of the I'm going to hit you and grind you and Dallas does not match up well against that. They lost to them last year in the Western Conference Finals. They didn't beat them at all. This year they were 0-5 against them. This year They've got another goaltender.

Speaker 2:

The guy that beat us last year is sitting on the bench and here comes this other guy and it was his first Stanley Cup playoff game in Game 1, and these guys standing on his head. They had 50 shots last night and scored three times. I mean this guy's just making save after save after save. They played better last night. They were much better defensively last night. Again, they give up a shorthanded goal, which you cannot do, especially in the playoffs. The odd man rushes. Ottinger has not looked. He looked great the last month of the season and he didn't look great in the first three games of this series. Monday night will be very important to even it up and not go down three to one and make it a three-game series where you have home ice advantage back and I think Dallas can still win the series. But I always thought it was going to go six and seven and I think that's a guarantee is probably seven games, but we'll see if Dallas can, can make the difference and even it up and then win the one at home. Um, we'll see. Um. So, uh, monday and Wednesday will be very important for Dallas. Um, like I said, they just don't match up well against them. Even last night when they dominated for a period and a half, uh, you know, vegas gets two quick goals and it ends up being overtime, you know, late into the night overtime. Thank God it was on a Saturday night and not during the week.

Speaker 2:

Colorado and Winnipeg Winnipeg dominates them all year and Colorado is up two games to one. They scored five goals in the third period the other day, absolutely just smoking Winnipeg's goalie. Vancouver's up 2-1 on Nashville. That's going to be an absolute down to the wire. I think all these series go deep.

Speaker 2:

I don't think you're going to have like the Eastern Conference. The Eastern Conference is going to be, everybody's going to be advanced, you know almost immediately. And deal Edmonton and the Kings. Edmonton's up 2-1. I think Edmonton probably is your clear cut in the West of round one. They're going to probably advance faster than anybody Over in the East.

Speaker 2:

It's just a bunch of total domination by your top seeds. Florida is up 3-1 on Tampa Bay that goalie is just ridiculous. Boston is up 3-1 on Toronto I don't think Toronto wins another game. The Rangers are up 3-0 on the Capitals I don't think the Capitals win a game and Carolina's up 3-1 on the Islanders. So I think all your top seeds completely advance in the East and I think the Rangers are probably. The Rangers are Florida to come back to the Cup with that Bobovsky. I mean that goalie is just ridiculous. He made a save the other night. He's completely to the right and they go and they put the puck behind him and he just dives across the creek and sticks it out and I mean it's one of the greatest saves you'll ever see. That guy just stands on his head. So I think the Western Conference is wide open.

Speaker 2:

I think Dallas' path is, while they were the one seed and only one point away from winning the President's Trophy, the path for them to get to the. They don't match up well against, yeah, winnipeg. They don't match up. They match up better against Colorado, which that would be who they play next if Colorado wins that series. So you really, if you're going to want that to happen, you want Colorado to win and beat Winnipeg, vancouver and Nashville. They match up okay against Edmonton. They don't match up well against at all. So you would want them to stumble at some point. But these first two series are going to be absolutely brutal for the Dallas stars. You know that's just. But but really like top to bottom, I mean Dallas is the one seat at 113, 113 points and the and the last seat in in Vegas who had almost a hundred. I mean like top to bottom, like 10 points separated, all separated, all eight teams. So I mean the Western Conference is just so tough, top to bottom It'll be, interesting to see what they do.

Speaker 1:

Hockey's that way really in playoffs is just get in, oh yeah, oh absolutely Anything Out of any other sport it's the best the eighth seed beats the one seed.

Speaker 2:

almost every year you get the hot goaltender and you ride them. You know a team that didn't play well all year, but they sneak into the playoffs and then oh hey we're standing here at the end. Nobody talked about Florida last year. And then all of a sudden their goaltender gets hot and they win or go to the cup.

Speaker 1:

That's what you got to love about the playoff hockey is it really could be anybody's, if anybody knows the?

Speaker 2:

Vegas Golden Knights, though better than anybody, it's the Stars head coach, because he used to coach them.

Speaker 2:

So I mean he knows the roster, he knows how to play against them. I have faith in DeBoer and and, like I said, at any point in time Otter can go out there and throw up a 50, 50 block. You know shutout. So we just got to hope that they play defense in front of them. And and the stars got a couple key injuries in in um marchman and um radic foxa. They didn't play last night because they were injured. I don't know how long. Hockey's real weird, because it's. They don't tell you specifics, they tell you it's an upper body or a lower body. You know could be a broken leg. You know it's a lower body injury. Um so, um, yeah, I mean how crazy would that be?

Speaker 3:

if, uh, it's not gonna happen, but based off the the brackets, but, uh, if dallas played uh denver and then dallas played denver nba and then nhl um all right, gentlemen.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that about covers it on this episode. We're going to get into what is in our locker Craig. Why don't you go first? What's in your locker Craig?

Speaker 2:

I don't have much going. Probably take Zach out and work on parallel parking for the last time before he goes and wraps up getting his driver's license and just get ready for another week in the office. That's about all. We watched some baseball Giants lose a heartbreaker last night in extra innings to the Pirates. They play again at 3 o'clock so we'll try to get everything wrapped up to watch them. Other than that, not a whole lot going on. Um, just uh, working it's going to be. We're going to get ready for a busy couple of weeks here, um, with some things going on and, uh, that's about all. How about you guys?

Speaker 3:

Jeff, um, so, yeah, no, but work, um, just trying to kind of get ready for the summer. It kind of it rained here the other day like all day, um, which is kind of nice, so everything's kind of it. I don't think we're going to be dealing with a lot of those fires and stuff. We're out of a drought, so which is really good. Um, yeah, just kind of gearing up, uh, for for summer and, uh, work-wise I mean they're they're kind of like ending one season and trying to get towards the next season. So, um, they, it's like a grow season, so like they they'll get rid of a bunch of stuff 2024s and then kind of move in 2025, so they're always a year ahead of the actual year. Um, so it's kind of a mad dash here. Uh gets busy during the week, so, um, other than that, just uh, not nothing, nothing too crazy.

Speaker 3:

I do want to address one thing. I had this video that I put up here. Let's see if I can put it up here real quick. But did you, did you see this? Did you see this?

Speaker 3:

All right, let me, let me, let's see if it does it correctly or not.

Speaker 4:

Humanity that has a mast right here in the home of the Detroit lions, the most Honolulu blue you will see, in one spot West of the state of Hawaii. Oh, my goodness, that was wild, insane dude.

Speaker 3:

That was insane. That's the one thing in the draft where I was like my gosh, that's a lot of people.

Speaker 1:

They said there were 150,000 fans two hours before it started, just sitting out there.

Speaker 3:

Jeez, that's wild. And now I think, is it next year? It's going to Lambeau.

Speaker 1:

Lambeau Field baby.

Speaker 3:

And Brian's going. That's going to be cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, craig, pencil me out for vacation. Yeah, woo, let's go.

Speaker 3:

All right, brian, what's in your locker bud? All right well, what's?

Speaker 1:

in your locker bud, all right? Well, I got a couple things, so I started me and Caleb actually did the other podcast. I started a new podcast called the Dad Bod Podcast, so I'm looking forward to that. We'll put the episode out next month. So we're looking forward to starting that podcast and and come check it out. We're not going to live stream it, but we will. We will put it out on the, on the podcast services and podcast services and and go from there.

Speaker 1:

So looking forward to that getting that going. It's just a podcast where we could talk about other things other than sports. We'll talk about just life, being fathers, husbands, whatever We'll talk about. I'll have all my other buddies on too and interview them, talk about their business that they run or whatever. Just a different kind of podcast, their business that they run or whatever. Just a different kind of podcast. Um, I was actually able to go on a podcast to about three weeks ago Now. It's it's um, this lady, um, she has a podcast called the blind impact and basically she tells. She basically interviews people and tells her story. My buddy, alex, was on it and kind of introduced me to it and I love the idea of telling stories, so I was able to go on and tell my story to her and if you want to go listen to that, look up the Blind Impact and it's called A Daphne Day is what its title is, if you want to listen to that.

Speaker 1:

This month is going to be extremely busy for me. We got the kids in the school stuff you know, rehear, um, they do the graduation stuff you know, for elementary and Darla's going to middle school. We're getting ready for all that. We I got a my brother-in-law's graduating we're making a trip for that. I got my my um niece is graduating in college that I got. My my um niece is graduating college. We got a trip for that. Um, this month is just I got we got mother's day. I got I'm going to a ranger game for that. I'm going to a chicago musical that my wife wanted to go to for mother's day. So this month is extremely, extremely busy for me. So, um, and then on top of that, you got work and everything tied into it, but, um, other than that, it'd be an extremely busy month. I hope you guys get the hope you guys month isn't so crazy as hectic as mine's going to be.

Speaker 3:

So, um, do you want to include that podcast in the description in the show notes? How we can put stuff in the show stuff so that people can find it? The one you went on, I mean.

Speaker 1:

You could do that.

Speaker 3:

That and the DadBod one as well, In case anybody is curious as to where to find those or anything'll put a. We'll put a link in there and then you can find it too, with the the dad bod podcast.

Speaker 1:

My buddy caleb, he uh, he's in the military, so we have to put a disclaimer, disclaimer out on that. His views are not the military's views at all.

Speaker 1:

I was like oh that, that that's weird, but I get it. But yeah, we're hoping that takes off too and go from there. We definitely need to get back into the sports casting on a regular basis. But that's what's in my locker. It's going to be a busy month for me, but alright, guys, that's going to wrap it up. Hope you liked this episode of the NFL Draft. God bless and remember, keep it outspoken.

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