We’ve all seen those quotes that say: “Happiness Is…” They’ve been around for decades, from the old Peanuts cartoons to quotes on social media. Happiness is holding a warm puppy. Happiness is a long walk with a friend. Happiness is smelling fresh baked chocolate chip cookies. No doubt you could fill in your own with many things. They are all wonderful, but they are circumstantial. They don’t get to the root of finding true happiness. In this episode, we wanted to know what that might look like, so we invited someone who could offer some simple techniques that will not only help us explore finding it but allow us to dive into what may be holding us back from grasping contentment.
Kerry Rasenberger (Kerry Life Coach) is one of our favorite people! Along with her clients, she deals out wisdom to over ninety-thousand followers on Instagram. We’ve also had her on the podcast previously in an enlightening episode called “Great Relationships Start With the One You Have With Yourself”. A certified life coach who reinvented herself and started her own business in her 50’s, Kerry has learned a thing or two about discovering happiness for herself and for those she coaches. In this episode, she focuses on things like self-care, relationships that have healthy boundaries, and creating an environment in which we can thrive.
“Self-care is health care,” she says. We need to be careful not to confuse prioritizing taking care of ourselves and our happiness with selfishness. When we show up as our best selves we are better equipped to be there for others as well.
Truth: this is not a magic cure-all for contentment. Many times, things need to be dealt with on a much deeper level. It is, however, a very eye-opening look at what may be holding you back from finding your joy. Grab your headphones, hit play and take some time to reflect. The more honest you can be with yourself as you listen, the better.
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Kerry Rasenberger [00:00:00]:
You. We are going to have bad days, we're going to still get angry, we're going to still do that. But if you can bring more of that contentment into your life, processing the other stuff that's thrown at you, you can stay so much more above water and feel better.
Sandy Kovach [00:00:19]:
Welcome to Imagine Yourself podcast where we help you imagine your next chapter of life with grace, gratitude, courage and faith.
Lanée Blaise [00:00:28]:
Hello there. I'm Lanee, here with Sandy, and we want to let you know right at the very beginning that we know and we understand there's a lot going on in this world, a lot going on in everyone's lives. So we want to thank you for taking this step with us today in an episode that is all about finding true happiness because humans want happiness. We have songs like Happy. We have the pursuit of happiness included in the Declaration of Independence. Sandy and I started this Imagine Yourself podcast to help us all literally imagine ourselves living lives that reach towards health and happiness. So let's just get to it. We have as our guest today, Kerry life coach. Affectionately our life. Coach Kerry. She was our guest in the past on Imagine Yourself and she is wise and wonderful. Her passion is to impact women's lives, bringing that hope and motivation that we need to work through life's challenges that will come up that we will have to face. And she is willing to give us some genuine ways to find true happiness. So, Kerry Rasenberger, please drop some good stuff on us today.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:01:48]:
Oh, I'm so glad to be here. This is one of my favorite topics and I can't wait to jump in. And I loved what you said. Yes. If there is one thing that most of us have in common, is the desire to find true happiness.
Sandy Kovach [00:02:03]:
So, Kerry, do we have a problem confusing maybe happiness just as a feeling or a sense of joy and then happiness based on circumstance?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:02:16]:
I definitely think we do. Sometimes we feel like, let's just take it. When we were kids, I'm going to go back to middle school. We thought we'd be happy if we were in the popular group or if we dated that guy, we'd be happy. And as we get older, when you get into your 20s, you think you're going to be happy if you have that white picket house in the two kids and the dog. And what we really forget about is that is external happiness. You can get a new car and that makes you feel good. You can get your hair done, but that is instant gratification. And true happiness really is going deeper and getting delayed gratification, working for, feeling fulfilled, feeling great about who you are and your skin, the environment you live in, having self love and it's different a little bit for everybody, but it's really going internal.
Lanée Blaise [00:03:12]:
I love the fact that you mentioned delayed gratification as opposed to instant gratification. And you mentioned internal versus external. It seems like you're kind of flipping on its head everything that we think immediately as humans, we have to go a little bit deeper to get to that happiness level. And I know that you told us kind of before the show started that you get a lot of DMs from people who are seeking happiness. It's like that one thing that we all have in common. And do you think we're all willing to work on it, even though, like I said, it's kind of contrary to the ways that we ordinarily would want to move in life?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:03:50]:
I think there's a lot of people ready to work on it to improve themselves. The biggest thing to understand when we go for that instant gratification, we're also going where our brain is rewarding our system, right? We're releasing the dopamine, and we're getting that. I feel good that moment, and it's learning to get over that and sometimes going deeper where we have to dig in to what's really going on. What are we holding ourselves back for in life? Are we not dealing with our feelings, avoiding pain? And a lot of times that avoiding and seeking instant gratification, it kind of numbs us to get to what is really going on. We all can cultivate happiness in our lives, but we really need to work at it. I developed a happy life assessment. It's free on my Instagram. You just download it PDF. And I did that when I was really suffering through difficult times. I was feeling like everything's okay on the outside, but I was really pretending it was okay and not dealing with what was emotionally going on inside. And I was struggling, and it was hard. And what I really learned, to be truly happy, you need to dig deep into what's going on inside and stop avoiding the hurt that you haven't dealt with since your childhood. And from this, I put together five key areas of your life. One is self love and compassion, self awareness, your environment, which is really important for your happiness, relationships, and self care. What this really gave me, analyzing this about five years ago, was looking at about 20 areas of each topic of what was going on in my life, and it really gave me insight what was working, where did I have love? Where did I have fulfillment? And then it gave me oh, my gosh, AHA moments where I had one area, kind of a self care that I had five out of 20. And I was really ignoring that through motherhood, trying to work, trying to do everything for my kids. I really ignored myself, and that was making me unhappy doing this. It's really great. Like, I have some clients that take this, and they'll come to me and they're like, oh, my gosh, I got a zero on this one area. And I'm like, it's not a test score. Though this is fully for personal growth, of really diving into hard questions. Are you being a people pleaser? Are you always doing things for everybody else? And you're on the back burner in your environment. You can look at your environment. Is your work environment healthy or are you toxic? Is your home environment healthy even? Look in your drawers. Have you just been dumping everything in the closet and ignoring that? That stress. And so really digging in deep is where true happiness comes from, looking at all areas of your life and being fulfilled. And the crazy thing is, the harder you work and the more you can focus on yourself, the more you have to give to others. That's true.
Sandy Kovach [00:07:07]:
Yeah, it does make it easier to be there for others. So I'd like to dig a little bit deeper on the five keys that you mentioned. I know folks can find them on your Instagram, but before the end of the episode, if it's cool, I'd love to circle back and dive a little deeper on that. But regarding doing things for others, it truly is a way to bring yourself joy, bringing others joy. And it's something that we genuinely love to and want to do, not only for friends and family, but also for others who may reach out to us or we see a need. But there is definitely that balance. So where do we strike that balance between being there for other folks and taking care of ourselves?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:07:47]:
Well, that's a great question because when you're a people pleaser, there's no happiness in it because all you're doing is draining yourself. So finding the balance and knowing what are healthy boundaries to set up for yourself and knowing those where you're putting yourself first, when you do things for others, it's more meaningful and it's truly you're doing it because you're grateful, you appreciate you want to do it. Being a people pleaser, you kind of get in that autopilot mode of life where you're just doing doing and you do nothing for yourself. So finding that balance is really important, but learning to put you first is even more important. And a lot of people will be like, well, that's being selfish. And I'm like, no, selfish is all you care about yourself. It's like being on an airplane. They have you put the oxygen mask on yourself and you can help your children. When you're putting yourself first, it's kind of the same concept, taking care of your well being and your happiness. So then you can really have more to give to others. Truly, you need to practice to be happy. You need to cultivate what makes you happy. Sometimes I have clients and I say, well, what makes you happy? And they're like, I don't know, I haven't thought about they haven't even taken.
Lanée Blaise [00:09:09]:
That time with themselves. And like you said, in a self love way to even determine because they've been so busy serving others and pleasing Others and living for others Lives.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:09:20]:
And that's pretty common. And it's even when you go deeper. What do you like? I don't know what I like. And I find that a lot of people coming into the emptiness stage, the women I'm working with, they so focused on everything else, whether stay at home mom, career mom, soccer mom, everything. And they get to the time where their kids go to college. And one question. What do you like to do? And it is so common. They're like it's like a pause. And so I'm like, well, let's think of things. Don't overthink because you'll paralyze. But let's come up with 20 things in three minutes. Every single thing you like. I like hiking. I like walking. I like being outside. I like being with my friends. I have clients that are creative, and sometimes they come across a passion in life that they forgot about for years. And it's so wonderful to be able to bring those things as a child that we forgot that made us happy back into our life as an adult because we can get so fixated on the autopilot. It's kind of like you're numb to whatever else is going by. Your brain is reacting without even thinking. Doing the same old, same old, same old. So that's what I love all of the listeners to ask themselves right now, what makes you happy? And you might not know but to think about it and what can you do to cultivate more happiness in your life?
Lanée Blaise [00:10:52]:
I also like Kerry, that you said that you do have to work for it because again, many times, people still know. Okay, I'm working on it. And even that part they think is going to be instantaneous. But I do want to warn people, because I've had this happen myself, that sometimes as you begin establishing boundaries with some of the people in your life that you do care about and that you do love, and you start scheduling your life differently and taking time for yourself differently, you might get some pushback from others. But remember and you said this too, Kerry, the ultimate goal is so that you have peace also. Not just to keep the peace with others. It might take a little bit for them to get used to this new. You get adjusted to it, but it'll be worth it. It really will be worth it for your own peace of mind. That will be long lasting, and it'll just be a whole new way of living.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:11:50]:
I love that you brought that up. Not having boundaries and going to setting boundaries is a big pushback with some people. And it could be from making your relationship healthier what's good for you because you've been such an enabler or doing things. But even with Your Kids my kids Are So used to Me doing Everything, having the meal Ready, getting them to Soccer up until Midnight when they're Having their breakdown because they're afraid that they weren't studying enough. And what I had to do, and this is going to sound silly to some, but I actually made a big sign, Y-O-U capital letters and put it next to my computer as a reminder for me to focus on you. For me to focus on myself. Yes, because I found myself going back to my old patterns and not doing things that made me happy or I found that I had to stand up of it's my time. But what do you mean it's your time, mom or my husband? What do you mean I'm so used to you doing this? I'm like, no, I'm starting my business in my not doing corporate America. It's my time. I even had put little stickies on my door. Do not disturb.
Lanée Blaise [00:13:08]:
Kerry Rasenberger [00:13:08]:
And then on the glass doors I put curtains so I would put them through and my curtains are closed. You do not knock on my door unless the house is burning down.
Lanée Blaise [00:13:18]:
Well, you know, I thought what you were going to say is when you said you had the sign y ou. I thought you were going to say that you hold that little sign up for your kids so that they can look at it and say, oh, that's for they are supposed to do whatever.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:13:31]:
That works for you to do. I would text them, you can do this, you can do this. And it's not that they weren't independent. I created this doing everything in kind of that atmosphere. But it is work and it's also kind of sometimes it hurts going through this growth because there are other things you need to health. Why did I neglect myself for so many years? And also you create things in your relationships and now you're like, well, I have needs too. There's growing pains. But the way I look at suffering, if you've been feeling hurt, that's the only way your body tells you you've been ignoring taking care of yourself.
Sandy Kovach [00:14:16]:
So that pain, it can be physical or it can be emotional, but sometimes you've put it way down.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:14:23]:
Oh, you bury it.
Sandy Kovach [00:14:24]:
And that's what you're talking about earlier is you got to bring it back up.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:14:27]:
You got to bring it back up. And sometimes burying that pain, you've created a numbness and you just deal and you're just going on with everyday life. It's not that you aren't having happy moments, right? I mean, I always had blast my kids and we did crazy fun things. But when it came down to my own true happiness within and with who I am, I wasn't the best version of myself. I was the best version for them because I was doing everything for them, right? But for truly being the best version for myself, it's stuff I had to work on and that's getting back into self care. I used to run marathons. I had to get back into self care a lot of times is one thing that leaves first, and that's self care is not only just doing what you hear. Everybody says, eat, drink water, eat right, take vitamins, work out on a regular basis, but it's also finding relaxing time. I don't know about how about you, but I'm so used to go, go. I never took time to relax. And I found in the past five years that is just as important in the process of becoming the best version of yourself as being busy, taking down the time, learning to be content within yourself.
Sandy Kovach [00:15:46]:
I'm fascinated by all of this, and I'm fascinated by the fact that, like you said, you started a new career in your 50s. You were in corporate America for a while, and now you have your own business, you're an entrepreneur, and life coaching is really catching on. I was checking out your website and it says, an evidence based approach that empowers you to become an expert in your own life. So there's like a science?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:16:13]:
There is kind of a science. A lot of women that come to me the most thing in common is nobody's happy. They have happy parts of their life, but they aren't happy in general. A word that's very important to me is awareness. If we aren't aware, we don't know where we need to evolve. And that is huge because we think we know what's going on. But the evidence base is kind of getting aware, getting aware of your body physically. If you're being triggered by something, what's triggering you? A lot of times, everyone's like, oh, I don't know, but what goes on in your body even before you get triggered? And when we start going through that awareness, a lot of people that are struggling with trauma, whether present or past, go through physical things in our body first, where our neck tightens, your hands get sweaty, the heart palpitates. And getting that awareness takes you to, well, what are your thoughts next? Are you being triggered? What just triggered you and starting to be aware of what triggers you? Even understanding that helps for the next step of growth. How are you reacting and what thoughts are you creating in your mind right when you're reacting? Are you going into PTSD of the typical freeze fight flight mode? And if you do, how are you handling that? And then we can work on grounding techniques to get you back into the present, because present is the only thing you can control in life. You can plan for the future, but to actually control right now, what happens a year from now, there's no control. Byron. Katie did a book that I loved called Loving What is and from that book, I really learned from her. The past is the past. You don't have to agree with it. You can't change it. And if you're struggling from it, then we need to heal that emotion from it. But accepting it is what it is, is a big growth step. So going back to the awareness, to what you're talking about, is getting aware of what you're struggling with. A lot of times we don't even realize. I didn't realize probably until five years ago, a lot of the patterns I was doing in my relationships is what I learned as a child and I'm implementing and I didn't even know that. I didn't know that the freeze mode was kind of what I learned because my father was a very brilliant man, but he liked his alcohol. And so with that, you freeze when his anger happened. But I didn't even realize that until my 50s. That's how I respond sometimes. That was okay as a kid because that kept me kind of invisible. But as an adult, that doesn't work with adult life. And so working on this awareness, this is what I'm talking about. Finding your true happiness is kind of overcoming some of these lifelong obstacles and knowing it's not your fault. And there's things that we hold on to, thinking that even on a logical part, when we're using the front part of our brain, we'll say, oh, we know it's not our fault, but when we're triggered, we go into that inner child and we're hurting just as bad as we did as a ten year old kid. So working through this awareness and getting through it, that's kind of another part of where it leads you to really lifetime internal happiness. Letting go of what we've been holding on to, that hurts so much. I've been in my there was childhood pain that I was holding on to since I was a kid, but I wasn't aware. And so going through my Happy Life Assessment, there's a lot of questions that make you kind of go deep into your struggles. Working through those struggles and really people don't like this. Healing is not linear. It's up and down. I have clients that feel great for two weeks and then all of a sudden hit hard. And I'm like that's part of healing. Sit with it, deal with it. You don't have to like it, but working through it is how you let it go. This is just going on a deeper level of Happy Life Assessment. But if you do have struggles to get to truly be happy, is working through a lot of this.
Sandy Kovach [00:20:40]:
And we can find your life assessment on your website or on your Instagram or both.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:20:45]:
Yes, it's on both. You can go on my Instagram under the link tree and click on Happy Life Assessment and it is free. It comes as a PDF printed out. Some people this works really well for depends on where you're at. Some people might only need one area to focus on. But the biggest thing that my clients get from this is it's really great doing sessions because we can dive in and really figure out what's holding them back to finding their true happiness. And a lot of that is finding who they really are and what the best version of themselves is. And it really only matters what you think. It doesn't matter what others think. And I say that over and over. It's nice if people love to see how you're evolving and being so happy and content in your life. However, if they don't like it, that's their problem to deal with, not yours. Because what it comes down to, it just matters that you care what you're doing, and that what you're doing is the best for you.
Lanée Blaise [00:21:53]:
That's a big shift away from the way many of us were raised, and we need that reminder. That's another thing I love about you, Carrie, and about we always go on your instagram at Carrie Life Coach, because you give those very important reminders, everything that you're saying right now. You post those kinds of encouraging, uplifting, empowering reminders, because it is easy to get off track and revert back to the way we were taught to be. Many of us were taught to be people pleasers. But to kind of overhaul that is really important. I know we did the episode with you back over a year ago called Great Relationships. Start with the one you have with yourself and a lot of people like that episode on our podcast, Imagine Yourself. It really kind of redefines why you're here. We care about other people, absolutely. But we have to care about ourselves, too.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:22:55]:
So true. And I love how you said how we were brought up. My brother and sister are a lot older than me, so my mom is 87. If my dad was alive, he'd be in his ninety s. And it was also that generation where my mom was that stay at home, take care of the family. And in that generation, it was a lot of drinking, the alcohol at work the men were, and having the martinis when they came home. And so it was that I was brought up in a generation where it's kind of like you don't speak unless you're spoken to. And my father was a very dominant force, and he was scary. So you learn that kind of molded you into a people pleaser, if I do that, I keep peace. I won't get yelled at or I'll be invisible. And I'm glad you brought that up, because if it's what we were taught when we were little, nobody can be upset with themselves as a midlife woman because it's what you were taught. You don't know better. And this is what I tell my clients, and it gives me goosebumps kind of that you did the best you can do and you can't get mad at yourself because you're doing what you learned. And you probably molded getting into more relationships like that, which I did. And I didn't know better because I was in my comfort zone and a lot of people think comfort zone is a healthy place. Not necessarily. A comfort zone is what you're used to. And if you're used to a toxic abusive relationship and you don't know better as a child, that's what you look for because that's what's comfort. When somebody's too nice, it might feel a little like uneasy or you don't trust it. So what you learned as a kid and you duplicate it as your parents or did some of that, it's not your fault. And have compassion, have forgiveness and have caring. And that is a huge step. It's hard to do, but it's a huge step to finding true happiness within and accepting. I love my strengths, I am totally fine with and love my weaknesses and I'm fine with everything in between. And when you are truly happy within, that's where you get to and it's so worthwhile, but not always fun in that process. But my whole thing is trust the process.
Sandy Kovach [00:25:22]:
And you have a process set up too. Now you have your one week self love boot camp and we talked a lot about self love already and then you also have your heal. Now, finding happiness after a toxic relationship. And that could be like you're talking about in your family of origin or it can be like a partner relationship. Any kind.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:25:43]:
Well, any kind. This is kind of formed from the clients that I've been getting and I've been asked a lot, I get numerous amount of direct messages and it is from everything. A toxic boss, a toxic boyfriend, toxic husbands they've been in a relationship with for 20 some years, right? And it's been a pattern and that is really hard. And then I have some women in their fifty s that have always had a toxic mom and they are still battling as their parents get older, the toxic relationship. So the course I devised, it works on awareness. Your body, how are you getting triggered by your toxic parent? How are you getting triggered by your boss? Being aware of that, going through understanding physically what you're feeling, understanding what your triggers are intoxic. People have narcissistic traits, okay? That doesn't mean they are narcissistic personality disorder. However, out of all the traits, they have a lot of them. So it goes through educating, manipulation and they are so good at manipulation gaslighting that you don't even realize that all of a sudden that toxic person would clear to anybody else that did it. But then in five minutes you think you did it. That manipulation. So it's understanding that. But my main focus is really getting into the healing process and really understanding what you need to work through with self love and compassion, self care, and setting healthy boundaries. A lot of times in those relationships we don't set boundaries. We've learned to enable and learn to do it and also understanding what we did that contributed to it. So we don't do those patterns later. So I mean, it goes through a lot of different things. And the overall is to build resilience, build self confidence, heal and really find true happiness within because that's really what matters in life. Wow.
Lanée Blaise [00:27:53]:
And can you say your website just for everyone? Because I just have a feeling that everyone who's listening is going to want to jump over there. Take a look at these. We mentioned the instagram at Carrie life Coach, but what about your website?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:28:07]:
Carrie? K-E-R-R-Y. Rosenberger. R A, as in apple senberger.com. But I would love all the women out there to really dive into this and really grasp on their true happiness. Because when you get there, life is amazing. Doesn't mean you're not going to have a bad day once in a while. That's just life. But when we get those bad days, instead of it sinking our ship, we can process through it a little bit more. We are going to have bad days. We're going to still get angry, we're going to still do that. But if you can bring more of that contentment into your life, processing the other stuff that's thrown at you, you can stay so much more above water and feel better not only about the situation, but better about yourself, how you're handling it, so you aren't being reactive, explosive, so you aren't yelling at your kids or your spouse because you're triggered that. You're learning to okay, I need to take a step back. You can even excuse yourself, hey, give me five minutes and think about it. Think about what's going on, how you're processing it, and then you can respond back in a proactive way, which is good for you, but also good for the relationship.
Lanée Blaise [00:29:28]:
Perfect. You are a wise woman here, Coach Kerry. I was wondering if to just run it by one more time because I know that people like to take tangible things with them for our takeaway time. As our takeaway today, would you be willing to just list those five areas of that self assessment quiz? I know that people can go take it, but to just kind of remind us what are those areas so that we can keep that in mind in our lives?
Kerry Rasenberger [00:29:57]:
Sure. The areas that are really important and there'll be 20 questions that dive deep into each. The first one is combined self love and compassion. And that is really important to have compassion with yourself, talk to yourself like you would talk to a friend. And also, as we mentioned, self love is just overall important. Self awareness. I think we struggle a lot because we are not aware of what's really going on inside. Okay. All areas of our life, being aware of our thoughts, our true thoughts, our brain does create a lot of things because of fears that aren't true. So being aware of true thoughts and your awareness of what do you get hurt by what makes you happy? What. Makes you feel loved. Self care, I think, is big. Before we start struggling, self care is an area that starts dropping off, where we stop exercising, start eating the junk food, start drinking the wine more. And then the fourth one is relationships. The questions on there can be relationships with your partner. Could be look at relationships with your family, your parents, bosses, and then environment. I think a lot of times we don't focus enough on our environment. And our environment could even be our bedroom. Are we never picking it up? Are we getting stressed? How many to do list have you never done in the past year? And it's always on your mind, that type of environment, your outside environment, you can even look in your car environment is it trashed? And every time you get in your car, you're like and it stresses you out. But I think environment is really important to recognize. So real quick, I'll just do it again. Self love and compassion, self awareness, self care, relationships and environment.
Sandy Kovach [00:31:55]:
Excellent. And we'll list that at imagine yourselfpodcast.com or we'll put a link to your website, I guess, and your Instagram and all of the information where people can jump on and just do the assessment. I mean, what can hurt except for you find out a lot more about yourself. And then if you want to go and take it a step further with Coach Carrie, find out how you can do you do virtual sessions and whatnot.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:32:19]:
I do some zoom, some just want to do it by phone. But for your listeners, if they want to do the Happy Life assessment, I'll give them a free 30 minutes mini session and we can dive into it and kind of come up with the first action plan, because that's what we do. What is the first thing out of this that you can work on to get yourself to the best version of who you want to be?
Sandy Kovach [00:32:45]:
I think 30 minutes and just getting that first step can be huge, can be life changing, actually.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:32:50]:
Yeah. A lot of times I think the first step is the hardest, but I also think it is the one that gets us on the right path and the most insight or clarity you might get for where you need to go to.
Sandy Kovach [00:33:05]:
I love it.
Lanée Blaise [00:33:06]:
Well, we thank you so much for giving us all of these gems of wisdom, knowledge, teaching us about self awareness, teaching us about self love, all those components. Thank you, Carrie, for being our guest again.
Kerry Rasenberger [00:33:22]:
I love it. I'm so thankful to be here. And thank you, ladies.
Sandy Kovach [00:33:26]:
Lanée Blaise [00:33:27]:
And then for everyone else, I just want to say, imagine yourself really getting still and quiet and digging in deeper into your life, into your thoughts, into yourself, and finding that true happiness that you deserve, and that is possible.
Sandy Kovach [00:33:45]:
Thanks so much for listening. As always, we appreciate your feedback. If you can leave us a review or a rating. That would be awesome. Not only does it help us shape the Podcast, but it helps other folks find US as well. Please feel free to connect with US. In fact, we definitely encourage you to do firstname.lastname@example.org. All of our social media information is up There, as well as, of Course, info on Carrie and where to find her and her resources. And we'll also drop that in the Show notes until next time, when we have something new to imagine. Here's to you finding your true happiness.