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Microsoft's Price Hikes: Gaming's Financial Future, will $80 and up games kill the video games industry , Gears of War going to PS5 and much more.
Microsoft's aggressive price hikes across its gaming ecosystem signal potential industry-wide shifts, with first-party games jumping to $80 and console prices increasing by up to $130. These moves coincide with Xbox's surprising strategy pivot as Gears of War heads to PlayStation, raising questions about the future of exclusive titles and traditional console competition.
• First-party Xbox games including Gears of War, Halo, and Forza will now cost $80, following Nintendo's lead with similar pricing
• Xbox console prices have dramatically increased: Series S by 25% to $380, Series X to $600, and Galaxy Black Edition to $730
• Game Pass subscription price increases are likely coming, with hosts predicting Ultimate could jump from $19 to $25
• Gaming as a hobby is becoming increasingly unaffordable for many players, especially students and younger gamers
• Gears of War Reloaded is coming to PlayStation 5, featuring 4K/60fps campaign and 120fps multiplayer
• This cross-platform strategy suggests Microsoft may be shifting toward becoming a third-party publisher
• If Halo ever comes to PlayStation, hosts agree it would effectively end the traditional console wars
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Let's do this. Welcome everybody to another episode of the Gamer Traffic Show. I'm your host, mike Sanson, chillin' with my co-hosts. Simply amazing how we're doing today. Everybody get up for Mr Amazing. On today's Gamer Traffic Show, we're going to talk about the main main topic, mr Amazing. We're not going to go into too many topics today, but the main topic is Microsoft, mr Amazing, and we want answers. Mr Amazing, microsoft's fine making moves, yo or not? The first topic we're going to talk about Microsoft price hikes, mr Amazing, I don't know what you think about it, but I'm going to start off, mr Amazing, my own business. I don't know what you think about it, but I'm going to start off, mr Amazing. We're going to begin talking about the games for this holiday, mr Amazing. Guess what price they're going up to, mr Amazing.
Speaker 2:Well, I can only guess the same price at the Switch, so I'm going to go guess with a big 8-0.
Speaker 1:Yep and a lot of people are saying thank you, nintendo Switch.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the same crap too. I heard about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So this holiday season majority, I think majority of, if not majority, all the first box, the first Xbox games, with the major one, we'll say Gears of War, halo, the next Forza will be 80 bucks, mr Amazing. What do you think about this? Like you?
Speaker 2:start a show with thank you Nintendo. Because I don't think if Nintendo dropped the $80 Mario Kart, this would have happened. I think if it came out at the regular price point of $70, that would have been it, and I think the first game we would have saw that would have crossed, that would have been a Grand Theft Auto. But because of what Nintendo displayed, I guess it gave them courage to say, hey, why not us too?
Speaker 1:We're a stronger system, we're a known system. Let's drop it. I think that's what it is. For that, mr Mason, two comments. I have to disagree with you. Go ahead. Oh, you're talking about Nintendo. No, microsoft. Microsoft, they're the strongest system. Oh, they are, they're a more powerful system. That's a fact. Okay, you say stronger, but not the. Okay, you say stronger, but yeah, not the most. They got the number one selling system, not the most coveted system.
Speaker 1:No, I agree with you on that but we have seen in the past, powerful, strong systems does not mean.
Speaker 2:Oh, we know that it's going to move year after year after year after year Does not mean constant sales. Yeah, but what they're saying is that our first party games are worth it. Every company thinks their games are worth it, which is true, which is true. I do agree with that actually.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, like I know people are thinking Nintendo, but a lot of game developers and publishers have been talking about pushing the games beyond the 70 price point. Mr Amazing, yeah, so is that surprising? I'm surprised they did this soon. They'll announce it this soon, after they said Microsoft has has made. I believe the profits have went up 18%, 16%, 8%, but I believe it's 6% for Xbox this year so wait.
Speaker 2:So I'm gonna cut through a couple things. So you said it's only gonna be for their first party games. Yes, I'm going to cut through a couple of things. So you said it's only going to be for their first party games. Yes, but what about a strong third party game?
Speaker 1:So there's no such thing as strong third party, a third party kind of game. No, that's not a third party. That's not what you're going to do. For example, ubisoft creates a crowd.
Speaker 2:Do Assassin's Creed as a third party. Yeah, that's what. I'm talking about that, a game from Assassin's Creed, a new one comes out. It's got to be $80. There's no arguing that, for example, the biggest game coming out this year. Now that we know, we'll talk about another topic, but now that we know that Grand Theft was delayed, we won't talk about the next episode with the Maze. It doesn't matter, we have to touch on it, we're not going to touch on it.
Speaker 1:I told you off script people, that's big news, that's big news. We're not going to talk about this episode, but we'll talk about the next episode. We'll talk about it, but the thing is no, I'm not talking about that, it's leading to my topic.
Speaker 2:Now that we know that game was delayed. That game is delayed. The next biggest rock star game coming out this year is Mafia, so it's about $80 games. You said something to third party. Is that an $80 game in your opinion? No, so Mafia 4 is not an $80 game to you. No, so you think Mafia 4 is going to be a $70 game.
Speaker 1:Maybe someone else might be $80 but, like I said, grand Theft Auto is a much higher level when it comes to audience attention and their pedigree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I can argue Grand Theft Auto is going to be more than $80. The reason I say Mafia is Mafia is a rockstar game. Right, it's a rockstar game, it don't mean you're going to pay $80 for it. But, for example, you just said Xbox first party games are going to be $80. But not all Xbox first party games is worth that $80 price point.
Speaker 1:Basically, it's going to be the heavy hitters. I think Mafia 4 is in that category, though. I mean you can say that.
Speaker 2:But what makes you think Mafia 4 is in that category? Because, number one, we're talking about Mafia 4, so obviously you got a strong fan base. If you drop it number four, and on top of that it's a very good game and I think now Rockstar can concentrate on that being their number one seller for this year. So, like I think that game is going to do well I mean the numbers. I don't have the numbers for it, but I got to pull it up.
Speaker 1:The numbers is Mafia. How much do you think Mafia sold the last one?
Speaker 2:The last one, I would say maybe like 4 million probably something like that.
Speaker 1:I bought the last one, but Democritus Series total sales combined for lifetime is 34 million copies sold 34 million that's still good.
Speaker 2:That's still good for a game not known as Gears of War or Mario or something. That's still good numbers. So let's just do the math. 34 million, you said right what you said. 34. Yes, a game not known as Gears of War, mario or something. That's still good numbers. So let's just do the math. 34 million, you said right what you said. 34? Yes, so that's roughly about 11 million each game. If you think about it, that's 11. If you do the math, it's three of them drops over the top.
Speaker 2:That's about 11 million each one, though, if you're looking at it analytically that's $11 million each one.
Speaker 1:I know we both know each one is all of it.
Speaker 2:We don't know that, though let's pull it up, we can pull it up.
Speaker 1:We won't got phones Pull it up.
Speaker 2:We both have phones, let's see. So as I look for this mic, man man okay, hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 1:On Mafia okay, also, you're gonna include the Mafia remake as well the remake, but let's just let's do, let's just do. Let's see Mafia 3.
Speaker 2:Okay, hold up Mafia Trilogy, which includes Mafia Trilogy includes the Mafia uh but you can't do a trilogy though, cause trilogy's different, that's that's a different sell, that's a whole different one.
Speaker 1:I think the first one sold about 2 million so we're not going by sell, we're not going by sell you sold by sell.
Speaker 2:How much did it sell? It sold 2 million.
Speaker 1:The first one. It looks like it sold 2. Let's go to the last one. Mafia 3 is the last one, right, yeah, and you got Mafia. What did you do? Go ahead. You got Mafia, what's?
Speaker 2:the score Mafia 3 at more than about 10 million. Mafia 3 sold 10 million yeah, roughly about 10 million that's good yeah, sold more than I want to give you right numbers, because it says by the end of March 2020, the game had sold more than 7 million copies. That was the end of 2020 and it looked like it went on to sell about 10 mil.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good.
Speaker 2:So you can say it's a success, so the numbers are not bad on it. So yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 1:I don't believe every Mafia game sold.
Speaker 2:No, no, not every game sold, they were skewed.
Speaker 1:Okay, but all right. Mr Mason, so you want to continue to look at the Mafia games? I don't think Mafia is an $80 game. That's what I think.
Speaker 2:I think, come on, I'm going to say no game is $80 worth because I'm being biased, but for the show I got to be realistic.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you a question. Go ahead. Do you think Call of Duty is an $80 game? Call of Duty, of course it's going to be an $80 game, but do you think it's worth an $80 game?
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to say yes because yeah. I have to say yes even though I don't play like that. I don't think, yes, it is. I can't have it both ways. So for my argument, it definitely is.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, mr Amazing, but for the ongoing prices. Microsoft said we ain't going to stop with the games, son. It's not over, mr Amazing. They also said the console sales. The console will be going up, mr Amazing. The Xbox Series S, 212 gigabyte is now $380,. Mr Amazing, a 25 cent price increase from 300. Not 25 cent, 25 percent oh. I was going to say 25 percent price increase from $300. That's what you wanted to get one time. Yeah, she got one's hot.
Speaker 2:She got one's hot. I can go best by getting an open box for that same price.
Speaker 1:You got so many open boxes and all I want to see you get open boxes of those, mr Bayesian.
Speaker 2:So break it down for us. So the Xbox Series S what the original price was.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was $300.
Speaker 2:Now it's $380.
Speaker 1:The Xbox Series.
Speaker 2:S? That's a big jump, dude.
Speaker 1:That's a big jump.
Speaker 2:That's a terabyte is now $430. And what original price on that was? Original price is $350. That's a big jump too.
Speaker 1:The Xbox Series X, the one terabyte digital is now $450. Mr Amazing Went up from $450. The Xbox Series X one terabyte with the Blu-ray disc drive is now $600. Mr Amazing, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I think okay, alright, the Xbox Series X Galaxy.
Speaker 1:Black Edition Mr Amazing $730. More than a PS Pro. There's no upgrades, which makes no sense to me. Which is no upgrades? Don't describe no upgrades to it, mr Amazing $730. Microsoft just said hell with it Because allegedly they sold maybe over 2 million consoles last year. They said hell, they're probably not making money Because Sony and Nintendo are probably making money, because Sony and Sony and Nintendo are probably making money off their console because they sold several million. Microsoft is still struggling to sell consoles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes no sense they said freak it, you might as well put. You might as well put a higher price. Let's try to get some profit off of this.
Speaker 2:This is crazy to me. I think this is one of the stupidest moves by a con. I'm so sorry. I'm a little upset by that, but it's amazing.
Speaker 1:Also, the controls are going up. I think each one are going $5 a piece. It's $64 for the core, $69 for the color. The Xbox wireless controller Well, I mean hold on Wireless, but special edition $80. Xbox Wireless controller limited edition is now $90. Okay, so it went up from $79 to $90. For the Xbox limited edition controllers, the Elite controllers, series 2, mr Mason went up a couple of dollars. It went up $10. Originally $139, mr Mazin. So I go on, mr Mazin. So I go on, mr Mazin.
Speaker 2:I do have a question for you before you continue. Have they given a reason for the price hike?
Speaker 1:Mr Mazin, it's always the same reason the changing environment. It's amazing. It's always the same reason the changing environment, the we call financial environment. It's causing changes.
Speaker 2:Hmm, does that stop? Do you think that's the? Does that stop them from getting their sales Sales of what the consoles?
Speaker 1:What consoles?
Speaker 2:Mr B, what consoles are they selling, mr Amazing, they're not selling. Exactly that's my point. How do you hike something when you're not in demand?
Speaker 1:The only person who's a diehard Xbox. People in the cluster, quote, quote, quote. Cluster is a mom got game.
Speaker 2:She is actually.
Speaker 1:Holding her tight.
Speaker 2:Holding her tight. But you know, I do want to make a quick comment. Okay, it's amazing, so roughly as we can see these consoles going up between 70 to 80 bucks on all for the different iterations and different models that you have, they all went up about $70. That's a big price hike. Some of them yeah. I think you could have got away with this without people going having too much of a fit If you went $30 to $40.
Speaker 1:The Xbox Series X two terabyte Galaxy Black went up $130. That's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying so roughly, I'm saying the least you pay is about $70, the cheapest.
Speaker 1:it looks like which is ridiculous to me. It's amazing, it's amazing, it's amazing. I didn't tell you the good news. Oh, there's good news besides this. Oh, I didn't think there was any of that. The Xbox stereo headset remains the same price.
Speaker 2:Oh, who cares? But before you continue, though, I want to say one thing too, though. I think Dell and Walmart haven't raised their price yet, so you could probably still snag at the regular price.
Speaker 1:Snag. What what's up? Dell and Walmart. Oh, you saw the Xbox. You can still snag it for the whole price, oh you looked up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can still snag it for those two places. To snag it from those two places. Maybe there might be other places you might get lucky, might be able to snag it from there too, probably so Because they're probably like yo, we got an overload of this.
Speaker 2:We weren't selling it at the price point. What the hell do you think we're selling at this price point? So some retailers still kept the whole price point, CPO, yo, yo, come on, yo just. I went to Best Buy. These dudes had nothing but the Series S, like tons of them, tons. And I was like yo, they're not selling. So my thing is you rate the prices. I think some of these retailers are willing to eat the fiend. Be like yo. You know what. This is a loss for me, the way I look at it. So I think some people are going to keep their price at that price point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and GameStop got the used market. People start buying those. That's true. That's what.
Speaker 2:I would do if I was with you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So it's looking dire, but Microsoft did make some profit this year, I believe 6%. Yeah, because they had some decent games this year that came out and plus the sales for the PS5. Having games on the PS5.
Speaker 2:That helped the helped helped them out yeah, they had games this year and they had. They had their first party game that came out this year too. That's a. That wasn't well, it's an indie game, but it was still pretty good though. The, the game that you and I want to play, the with the lady the black lady. Yeah, that's not a big, it's an indie game, no, but it helps. It helps. It's indie, it's indie, but it helps.
Speaker 1:It's a good critical game. Yeah, Critical game is a good game Critical but it's.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that's the only thing. Indiana Jones is selling. Better Indiana Jones yes, I should start with that. It's selling better on the PS5 than the Xbox. Yeah, indiana Jones, because that did start to sell.
Speaker 1:But, like I said, it's very hard when Microsoft puts a game on Game Pass to really get the quote-unquote correct numbers of who bought the game. Like I said, there's some games. When you buy a game, most likely you're more willing to stay with it. When you got Xbox Game Pass, or you buy a game or you got a game on PlayStation Plus for free, quote, quote, quote part of your description you might say I'm not feeling this, let me go. When you pay 80 bucks or 50 bucks for a game, you're like hold on, let me play this game and see what happens. You might play the game through the entirety or go back to it later because you did pay for that game.
Speaker 2:Agree you because you did pay for that game. Agree, you know, so I agree, but it's crazy because you know what this means.
Speaker 1:Next, you know what's next, right? Oh, that's what I'm talking about. Next topic is what, mr Mazin, if you stick in my mind.
Speaker 2:Sony's going to do the same thing. Oh no.
Speaker 1:I guess not. We're not doing the same project. That's going to happen. That I mean, you know. Eventually that's probably going to happen, not this year, but go to UT, ut, am I pronouncing it right? Go to UT, yeah, ut, yeah, they said in their post. Sony said they're not raising the price, so it's going to be the $7 price point, yes, but next. It probably won't hit you until next year. So it's, it probably won't happen until next year.
Speaker 2:Believing is seeing it probably won't happen until next year. And, ladies and gentlemen, you know who I blame all this for. Actually, once again, no Nintendo.
Speaker 1:Nintendo. I'm playing Nintendo. For this.
Speaker 2:They come with their expensive price point come with their expensive game, and you know I love you. So, nintendo, you were there.
Speaker 1:So I think you got something good trend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but with the tariffs coming, you don't want to hit them with higher prices, not that high. If you're going to hit them with higher prices, you start off at a medium price and let the tariff get you to that other price, what you're trying to get.
Speaker 1:Well, mr Mason let's say, if it goes lower, it'll be like oh my God, I'm getting a deal.
Speaker 2:It makes no sense to me, but whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, Mr Mazin, is Game Pass next for increase. If you're going to make a high price for the first-party Xbox game, are you not going to increase Game Pass? Mr Mazin, I would think you have to eventually, but not this year, though. Man, that's going up, Mr Mazin, let's just break it down. Mr Mazin, Xbox Game Pass Core, which I have $9 a month. How much do you think that's going to go? You get 25 console games in the world.
Speaker 2:The price that they're going to $9 is going to go between $15 to $20, easily.
Speaker 1:So you think, I don't think, I can't think $12.
Speaker 2:I think it'll go $12.
Speaker 1:Nope, $15.
Speaker 2:I think it'll go $20 for the core $15 minimum, $20 max, but I don't think it'll get there yet?
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so $9 to $12,.
Speaker 2:I don't see it $15, I definitely see.
Speaker 1:Okay, but my thing is, but not this year. Let's go to the next tier then. Okay, xbox Game Pass Standard, mr Mason, what it sits at, $, but both of them can't be 20, mr Mays.
Speaker 2:No, no, I said 15. I gave you a range, but if you want to give me an exact number, the basic one will be 15. That other one will be 20. I think they're going leaps. I think they're taking leaps, they're just sending you in Mr Mays PC Game Pass.
Speaker 1:It's only $12. What do you think about that it?
Speaker 2:That might be around roughly $16.99, $16 blocks.
Speaker 1:That's more believable, mr Amazing. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate $19 now.
Speaker 2:That's going to be $25.
Speaker 1:So that's access to all the Xbox console games and PC.
Speaker 2:That's $25. So you can play Game Pass.
Speaker 1:The Ultimate Pass, everyone knows is for consoles. If you don't know, it's for Xbox consoles and PC platforms. It includes basically online multiplayer games. Access to Game Pass library on Xbox console and PC.
Speaker 2:Do they have yearly passes for those? Excuse me, do they have yearly passes? A yearly pass, no.
Speaker 1:I would have bought it. I would have bought that. So that's, I would have bought a yearly. I would have bought a $9 yearly pass. Yeah, because $9 will give you about.
Speaker 2:Oh, $9. It'll be like $120.
Speaker 1:$108. $108. $108?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like $ 12 times 9 is 108, for my math is correct. Yeah, 108. That'd be 108 at $9.
Speaker 1:Let's say if they want to give you a little discount, we'll say 100 bucks even Probably. But, Mr Amazing, I mean. So what do you think about the Ultimate Pass?
Speaker 2:$25. I think $25. I don't think they're going to do the $30 because I think $30 just gets people pissed off, so I'm going to stick 25.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is what I think the basic pass for.
Speaker 2:Xbox console $12. So you're $3 under me $12.
Speaker 1:The game pass standard Xbox. Standard pass for Xbox console $17. The PC only $13. So you're only one up a dollar, yeah, man, so $13. I'll be playing up a dollar. Yeah, man, so $13. I'll be playing nice like that. Okay, ultimate pass 25. So you agree with me on that one? I think 25. I think 25.
Speaker 2:I think we got about two out of four. I think you agree with me on two out of four. We'll see when they raise it, but I think I don't think I'd say this year, though I do agree with you that he's going to go up, but I don't think this year, though. This year, mr Amazing, I think it's too much.
Speaker 1:Like Charles Barker said, I guarantee. Nah, I think it's too much. I guarantee so, mr Amazing, yes, sir, all this price hikes, mr Amazing, in the gaming industry. Do you believe that gaming as a hobby is coming too expensive? Mr Mason, I do.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say inexpensive, but yes, I absolutely do, because just five years ago we had the glorious years of gaming. You know, obviously we were in a pandemic, but during that pandemic, the numbers went crazy.
Speaker 1:That's because of the pandemic, I know, but it was because of the glory, I wouldn't say that I mean you might I don't see the glory, like I know, but it was. I want to say that I mean you might I don't see the glory.
Speaker 2:Like yo, we get these. No, what I think glory is crazy hit games coming out. No, no, no, no, no. When I think glory, I'm talking about numbers, I'm talking about the consumers. That was playing it the sales.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about that.
Speaker 2:I'm saying there's two things that are kind of glorious. There's glory for the best industry. They made numbers they never seen in their lifetime. So we're just coming five years away from that to now where it's becoming unaffordable for a lot of people. Think about it Like your average gamer won't be able to afford some of these systems.
Speaker 1:And that's a fact. And some of these games because, like I said, if you Remember, we'll say the PlayStation 3 era, where you could buy games in Xbox 360 era, in the Wii era, you could actually slash Wii U era, you could actually buy well, ps4, actually buy games for 50 bucks, yeah, and you could buy two games for 140 bucks with tax.
Speaker 2:I mean sorry $110 with tax.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like because I was just talking to one of my boys that work at FedEx he's a big time gamer and then I was like, hey, did you get the rest? He's a big wrestling fan. He's like, yeah, I want to get it, but like he goes now, man, he goes. I only get games. I know I'm going to get 80 hours out of.
Speaker 1:That's his mentality. Tons of time with that.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. He wants to get it but he's on a budget. He got three kids, a wife and you know you gotta make a decision. You have decisions.
Speaker 1:So he's like, yeah, I wanna get it but he's a hardcore wrestling fan. Big time fan. I think you get a lot out of him. You go online play. Exactly, I understand, and I think the game is how expensive?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the gaming industry now you're forced to say, choose my game or choose a livelihood, and when it comes down to that, livelihood's always going to win.
Speaker 1:You might get a few idiots, but I say call them idiots, I mean when we say livelihood, but we'll quote responsibility. We'll quote responsibility, yeah, responsibility.
Speaker 2:So when you're debating, when you're going against a responsible, you know you're not going to win. It's a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 1:It's very expensive because, let's say, $80 will get plus tax close to $90. Yeah, I agree. So you think, like damn this for a gig, plus tax close to $90. Yeah, I agree. So you think, like damn, this game might be worth it. Yeah, like I mean. I mean, that's why a lot of people will, people are going to pick up Mario Kart.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:The new one that comes out.
Speaker 2:And I, you know as much as people hated the $80 price point. I was okay with it because within that, grand Theft Auto 5. People are going to pay for years. You're going to pay for years, years, years, years, years. So the $80 price point is okay with. I have no problem with the $80 price point and everybody can play it. And everybody can play it. Yeah, it's easy for everyone. So it's like I understand something that gives me $80.
Speaker 1:Like when Rockstar projected $100, I hate the thought of it, but I'm okay with that. I'm not okay with $100.
Speaker 2:I think Rockstar is good, but the thing is it's going to sell regardless, regardless regardless, because my thing, when does it stop?
Speaker 1:that's a good question.
Speaker 2:$100 for a game that's a good question, but I think you sell it with people upset.
Speaker 1:excuse me, I didn't interrupt you. People are scared when people in Sony pack the Last of Us 1 and 2 for, I think, $110. People are ticked off. You're getting two games. I know they were getting ticked off about the outrage. Burn down Sony. Burn your PlayStations, you know what I'm saying. So $100?
Speaker 2:That's, a lot of money. What I'm curious to see is the first fighting game that's going to touch on that threshold. That's what I'm curious, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:They weren't touching the threshold already.
Speaker 2:I'm not talking about like a collective edition. I'm talking about like a straight fighting game, like you know, Street Fighter 7 or just Mortal.
Speaker 1:Kombat or 1213.
Speaker 2:I'm just curious to see which fighting fighting games is going to try to touch that.
Speaker 1:I don't think I mean, honestly, fighting games. I don't think they have to touch it. You're going to, though. Even when I bought Fate of Fury, yeah, you bought it at $70 price point, right, no, $59.
Speaker 2:$59.99? I was shocked. I was like oh, you know, you're like oh, shoot, I gotta pick this up. Wait, it was on the $70.
Speaker 1:It was a game store. I picked it up, so yeah, so it's no, I don't think fighting games Remember fighting games got the DLC, stuff like that, blah blah blah, you're right.
Speaker 2:Actually I forget about the DLCs because they make the money off of that of the contents.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're a to buy games, even just your student, college student or young kid, or kid asking their parents to buy a game. They're not going to buy a game for you, they're not.
Speaker 2:And I think gaming, the gaming world, have to work with some kind of discount with, like students and stuff. Because you mentioned students, that came to my head. Like you know how, with a student ID you get a certain percentage. I student ID, you get a certain percentage.
Speaker 1:I think maybe stuff like that to make it scientific.
Speaker 2:I'm giggling in my head, that's never going to happen. No, but think about it because a working person like you and I were more enabled. A student is not.
Speaker 1:So if a student presents his ID, maybe it's like a 50% to 20% more, Even with a working person you're still not going to get Okay, so you might as well get a fireman discount or police officer discount, or nursing, I think they do though. They do. For what? For games, If you go to a major retail you get 10%.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. They get no money 10%.
Speaker 1:Also, people work at Game and Traffic Show.
Speaker 2:I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1:We should get it free so we can try it out and give you good reviews. When we get our preview of games, come on, let us know Yo we're too hardcore for them. Maybe Yo we're telling people how it is and not how it might be. I think you might be right. We won't mention other podcast names, but you know who they are, mr Mason. But even you go back to the retro scene with gaming. Let's go on Amazon. Let's go GameCube games Mario Kart Double Dash $109, mr Amazing, I remember that that was up there.
Speaker 1:Mario Kart Smash Bros Melee $86. I think it's more than what you can get now for the Switch. Is this true? Zelda the Collector Edition. This is a GameCube game. $113, Mr Maze.
Speaker 2:And these are probably the reasons why I feel like you can get away with these price points, because people are buying them at that price point.
Speaker 1:Wario.
Speaker 2:Wario, yeah, his game $137. These are very fun. I like Wario games. They're very fun.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. Luigi's Mansion $90. That's crazy. Pikmin $56. I still get that game regularly in my safe. Mr Amazing Pokemon Calcium Mr Amazing $228. That's insane. These are high prices. You also can get some cheaper games. I'm not going to lie. You get the Batman. I mean Batman Be begins for $35. You get the Spiderman for GameCube for $35. But most of the first party Nintendo games don't cost you an arm and a leg. They are. They don't cost you an arm and a leg. Mr May, let's go to one of my other favorite games.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. Def Jam PS2. We'll see. Oh, that's, that's. That's what I'm gonna guess About 130. My guess, my guardi-guess-timate, simplest guess-timate.
Speaker 1:Let's see Mr Maison. Oh Def Jam PS. Oh shoot, sorry, we're looking at it now. Hold on, people fight for New York City, mr May they got it for they got for almost close to $300 $293. Boy was I wrong, I thought about breaking. I thought about like years ago, boy was I wrong, I thought about breaking.
Speaker 2:I thought about it like years ago, Boy was I wrong.
Speaker 1:I thought about I ain't going front, I might get it Another one for $300. Holy, I ain't going front. If it's $200, I'll buy it. I ain't going front.
Speaker 2:And this, ladies and gentlemen, he's the reason why you're paying $80 for your gigs. You, he's the reason why you're paying $80 for your games.
Speaker 1:You heard it on this show. Yeah, I admit it. I admit it, bro, I admit it, he's the reason why you're paying $80 for your game because you're like, oh, he just bought DevJet.
Speaker 2:That's almost a 25 to 30-year-old game. We could definitely sell these new games. For the first one, yeah, think it's Southern Numbers. At that, they're going based on the retro world, what people want to pay and you can't get that game because all the license music license, you're not going to get that game.
Speaker 1:It's a very good game, I understand, and I regret ever giving it away. I'm like yo, you know. So I have Jeff Tam Icon, whatever I have that, but I want and I have have Vendetta, but I want the original. Yes, I'm willing to spend the price.
Speaker 2:I'm willing to spend the dodo on it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. There's no game. You wouldn't spend that kind of money on.
Speaker 2:Well, there, I mean there are, I'm not going to sit there and lie to you.
Speaker 1:Oh, so that Barbie game you had, we don't talk about that. We'll talk about that, okay. So anything else you want to touch on this topic, mr Amazing? No, no, I think I'm good, okay, so as far as Mr Amazing, let's go to the trailer of the week. Mr Amazing, what do we got? The trailer of the week is Till Dawn, mr Amazing. Oh, it finally came out, mr Amazing, in theaters for very little fanfare, mr Amazing, but let's play the trailer. Let's do this and this, yo, let's take. I don't know. Let's give our opinion. Let's do this, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Let's just look at it up the road.
Speaker 1:that's what people get into trouble those are the first people here in years looks like it too weird that's my sister's signature. Oh shit, shit, guys, check it out. What happened to these people?
Speaker 2:Where's my car?
Speaker 1:Where's Megan?
Speaker 2:What the fuck just happened?
Speaker 1:We all got fucking murdered and now we're here again, so the night is just in our pizza. I don't remember that happening last time. Please let me out, holy shit. Every night something new is trying to kill us. What is that?
Speaker 2:How many more deaths do you have in you? Nobody's made it past 13 nights.
Speaker 1:If we want to survive, we have to make it until dawn.
Speaker 2:What is that he's getting out? I'm just going to grab it.
Speaker 1:Don't move. Yeah, what Is it gone? Yeah, it's gone. What it's still in my bag Until Dawn the Movie. Mr Mason is yawning after seeing that trailer.
Speaker 2:Mr Mason, do you?
Speaker 1:green light it, red light it. Y'all like this trailer. Mr Mason, it's our movie. Therese, it's probably getting review bombed. It's probably getting bad reviews on it. I played the game. You didn't see the it. I played the game. Yeah, see the trailer. I played the game. I don't think it's interesting. Basically, the movie premise is that you get till dawn, you could die several times, but if you can't escape the house by dawn, you're dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it didn't do nothing for me to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:It looked like a version of it's a piece of Friday the 13th.
Speaker 2:Michael Myers. Final Destination Hill's.
Speaker 1:Got Eyes Hill's Got.
Speaker 2:Eyes. It looked like a broke-out version of those. To be honest with you Death Birthday and maybe it might be a gem. We've been down this road before. No, it's not a gym, mr Amazing. We don't know.
Speaker 1:It's not going to be a gym. I don't think it is either, mr Amazing, the answer. What we want to hear, if people want to hear, is do you green light this trailer, yellow light this trailer or red light this trailer? Mr Amazing, I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 2:I was watching the trailer and I just watched I did a red reaction.
Speaker 1:Oh yo, I put it like this I'm going red. I don't know I should say red. I don't think anybody should see it. If you're going to play the game, game's probably way better than this, and if you're all going to see it, wait till you come to what time is it now, miss Mason? Dvd I'm screaming now. I can't say DVDs anymore. They probably won't waste time pressing a Blu-ray for that. So yes, in two minutes it's streaming right now, in two minutes, nobody's going to see this movie.
Speaker 1:So, Mr Mason, the only condition I say, if you're going to see this, it's at home. Yeah, I agree, and it's on sale.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree it ain't moving. To be honest with you, I don't know. It didn't capture me at all.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, mr Amazing, no, All right, mr Amazing, let's go on to our Shibukia topic of the week. Mr Amazing, mr Amazing, guess what Guess, guess, guess what Xbox is doing. Again, like I said at the beginning of the show, strictly talking about Microsoft, mr Amazing, guess what's going to PlayStation 5. Oh, we spoke about this. Yeah, yes, you did. Mr Amazing, microsoft just announced this Monday, mr Amazing, the remaster, gears of War reloaded. Yes, sir, it's coming to PS5,.
Speaker 2:Mr Amazing, yes, sir, series.
Speaker 1:X S, Xbox PC which I have no idea what that means but Xbox Cloud Gaming Steam. Mr Amazing, Bang bang. What do you think about this? The reload is priced at $40. Coming out this summer. Mr Amazing is coming out big time. Mr Amazing Remaster Ultra Edition. What do you think about this, Mr Amazing Remaster Ultra Edition. What do you think about this, Mr Amazing? I think it's great news.
Speaker 2:Actually, I think it's great news. See, the crazy thing is it's probably going to do better than what's on the PlayStation. It's going to be weird to see a Giz on the Sony, but I think it's time, it's time, it's time, it's time and it's going to be.
Speaker 1:What do you mean by time? What do you mean by time?
Speaker 2:What I mean by time is that is that. Give it due diligence. That's such a great game to me, and let my Sony fans enjoy it too. It's time. Something's just so better on Sony, and it's weird. I'm saying that to be honest with you, because that game sold very well on the Xbox too.
Speaker 1:Let's not get that twisted.
Speaker 2:That's the reason people probably bought an Xbox for those who are not Halo fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's supposed to be lower than promised, to be 4K, 60 frames per second and in the campaign, 120 frames per second. Multiplayer and also several other features, mr Amazing. So I don't know. It's supposed to be better sounding graphic, I mean mean very sounding which will include 7.4 Dolb 3Ds audio, mr Amazing, also include HDR and Dolby Vision and VRR support, mr Amazing. Damn, mr Amazing. They come with the big time, mr Amazing, but like you said, it's time, mr Amazing, but like you said it's about time, mr Amazing, what's going on? You think Halo's next, I think they're eventually making it, but not yet.
Speaker 1:If Halo comes out for PlayStation, the console world war is over. I know it would be actually Not, yet it's over. I think it's too soon. It would be actually.
Speaker 2:It's over. Not yet, not yet it's over.
Speaker 1:I think it's too soon. It's over.
Speaker 2:It's too soon, not yet Next year, maybe in the year after that.
Speaker 1:No, like the next year, 2027. I think next year, next year, I think it's too soon. Next, year. Phil was talking about. Oh, we're only doing four games. Four games towards like eight games within a year, within a 12-1 span. So I mean it's. I think Halo comes out next year. So console world is officially over, officially over.
Speaker 2:I guess that's like I would say console world. I would say Microsoft, it's just, it's a third party system. That's why I look at it at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's the way I look at it. It's great. I mean I do have the Ultimate Edition and, funny about it, me and Mr Mays have never finished 4 and 5. So we're going to get together and finish those campaigns off.
Speaker 2:I didn't finish 3. 3 I finished. I did 1, 2, 3. I just didn't do three and Judgment.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to find the three discs. I should have it with the rest of them, but it's going to be funny to see Gears of War on PlayStation. That's what I'm saying. It's going to be very weird.
Speaker 2:It'll be crossplay as well, who makes it Epic right? Epic, yeah, epic Games.
Speaker 1:So it'll be very funny to see PlayStation with Gears of War on it. So very funny. But, mr Amazing, the question is do you care a lot, a little or not at all?
Speaker 2:A lot, definitely a lot. I'm a big Gears of War guy, so a lot, yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1:I would say I was going to say I don't care Because I knew it was going to happen. But I think for people just in general, I think we should care. I think it's a big thing that's happening and I think it's nearing the end for Microsoft. I honestly think Microsoft's going to come out sooner than come out with another. Why waste your time coming out with another system? I agree. Why, why? I agree it's over.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:I don another system, I agree. Why? Why? I agree it's over. I mean, I don't know, maybe Steam, like, if they do come on another system, you know it'll be digital.
Speaker 2:Well, absolutely, that's what that is.
Speaker 1:They're all about that now Be digital, whether the new handbook, you know it'll be digital. There ain't no digital, that's a fact. I care a lot about it. I care a little about it. I care a little, but come what, I think I already have it erased. I'm like oh, my God.
Speaker 1:I never played it. I played it, so I care a little about it. I wouldn't say I care at all, but it's a little. I wouldn't say I care a lot. I wasn't waiting. When I heard the yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a little. I wouldn't say I care a lot. I wasn't waiting. When I heard the announcement, I was like, oh my God, I can't wait. It was on. It was like okay, that's cool, that's cool. Playstation players who haven't played it will get a chance to play it. That's true, that's great news. Who are hardcore gamers or this is like gaming news or have both systems? It's like okay, cool. No, expected it. You know you might want to play it again. We'll see.
Speaker 2:Agree do you think I care?
Speaker 1:agree, mr Amazing. Yes, sir, do you have a gangster? I do. I wasn't gonna talk about.
Speaker 2:I wasn't gonna talk about this, but it's got so much heat and fire on social media.
Speaker 1:I have to mention it. Oh my God, no.
Speaker 2:I wasn't going to. I swear to God. I was like should I bring this on the show? I was like nah.
Speaker 1:So how do you put this? The gangster wakes the top. Is this doing the toppings of gangster wakes the topic?
Speaker 2:I'll ask you how Go ahead. So the topic is this it's been all over social media and it's been can 100 men defeat one gorilla? Right, that's what the whole thing is. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, who cares? Yeah, I disagree.
Speaker 1:Well, I've been back and forth with it. I've been back and forth 100 men 100.
Speaker 2:Remember a gorilla's 400 pounds. Six things Remember their skin. Skin is thick as hell. And remember there's no weapons. You figure he's taking at least 40, 50 guys out. Oh, 40, 50, probably taking 10 guys, yo dude remember his head alone could crush you. His jaw bites about 4,000 PCIs. Dude, this dude. The only reason the men win eventually is a gorilla has no stamina.
Speaker 1:It can't go long for a while. Yeah, I him in a DDT.
Speaker 2:You're going to do that. You're going to do that. Yo, dude, he can rip your arm out your socket just with like a Because of this, this topic, there's been so many videos of people like in the thing and they're showing a video of a gorilla holding a guy with his pinky just dragging him Full grown man with his pinky just dragging him. Piece of this, yo. So. So my thing is I don't know how you're supposed to wake a guest to be house with you. I wasn't going to bring this up, but it got too much hype behind so I had to bring it up on the show. I knew you was going to bring it up, go ahead. So my thing is this is the person who had the nerve to think the guy that was next. How'd you bet Be the lion. I mean, what the hell?
Speaker 1:is next yo, Honestly, I thought it was a video game, a horror video game. I thought it was going to be a video game, I mean because I was like.
Speaker 2:Well, what makes this be?
Speaker 1:honest with you, man, it could be a video game.
Speaker 2:It could be a video game, it could be. It's like a King Kong DLC or a Horde board. That's a video game.
Speaker 1:That's a video game.
Speaker 2:It could be the Horde board in King Kong or something. To be honest with you, that's a video game. So I don't know, man, I don't even know how to land on, how to direct. I just had to bring it up on the show because it's been such a hot talk lately.
Speaker 1:Man, to be honest with you, I mean my, I think 100 mega beat a gorilla.
Speaker 2:It ain't going to be easy and somebody died. Yes, at least half is dying, dude he's taking out like 40 guys, 50 guys.
Speaker 1:He's taking out 40 dudes, michael. I think they're 15, 20.
Speaker 2:Dude, you are so underestimating a gorilla. Remember, their skin is almost impenetrable. But how are you 500? That was you guys, dude. Remember Michael he penetrable. But how are you 500, 100, that was you got Dude. Remember Michael, he does this to you Head bump to you. A head bump crushes your head, he bites you, you're done. He can just rip your head like this, rip your socket out.
Speaker 1:And remember he's six feet 400 pounds climbing. You like it's nothing Stopping you like it's nothing.
Speaker 2:You know it's over. You know it's over he's touching his chest.
Speaker 1:yo I put it like this Mike Sampson is Godzilla to him. All right, godzilla son.
Speaker 2:The only thing about that though honestly, this is realistic talking is that they're not aggressive animals. Actually they're not aggressive, and another thing what sucks for them is that they don't have long stamina. Okay, so would the 100 man win stamina? Okay, so would the 100 man win Probably, but he's taking at least 40. He's taking out 40. I think 40. He's taking out 40 and another 80% is going to be injured, ain't nobody? Coming 100% might suffice. The guy's way in the back he might get like a little hit.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to get hit, I'm not going to get hit and remember to kill him, most likely because you suffocated him. Beyonce with you, that's probably why you're going to kill him, because now you're just piling on. Because you're not, you're going to suffocate him. He's not going to feel that pain you gave him. This dude's fighting bears. He's fighting real life guys in the jungle, me and you is nothing to him.
Speaker 1:It's a video game, Mr Major. It's versus a bear. Oh, the DOCs, oh. Jesus it might be out it might very well, be out yo. All right, mr Mason, I don't know how to finish the Wangster Gangster of the week, but I I've been the person that thought about this. Why do you even want Wangster? I don't even know.
Speaker 2:I just have to read the topic. It's such a hot topic.
Speaker 1:We won't put him against the Wakes, we won't. It's just a question.
Speaker 2:It was just a hot topic because it was all over. I was like, wait, we had to mention the show too.
Speaker 1:So, all right, Mr Amazing, the shout out of the week goes to who, Mr Amazing? Who did you give it to? I thought you were going to give it.
Speaker 2:He's going to start saying everything. Well, if you don't care, shout out to my New York Knicks. We win a grinding series against the Detroit Pistons and we open up the night with a win against the champions, the Boston Celtics. Shout out to my Knicks baby, you guys deserve actually, and the boss self-reliant.
Speaker 1:I tell you, you live by three, you die by three.
Speaker 2:That was ugly, but whatever, that's all God said. That's all God said. You know, I do want to give Whether it's real life or 2K.
Speaker 1:You live by three, you die by three. And I also want to give a shout out to Ryan Coog one of the few, well, not one of the few, well, we'll say one of the few we greenlighted. It's really hit it off. Yeah, we both greenlighted that one, actually. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I know you're just saying something. I don't want to say nothing about it at all and shout out to Michael B Jordan this is the first time in a movie can actually act. I never thought he was a good actor, to be honest with you. I just thought he was a good, I think he's a good actor.
Speaker 1:You probably got hyped when he got killed in Hawaii he was a kid in that one.
Speaker 2:I thought he was a decent actor, but the first time I was like, oh he got range. He showed me range the first time I any movie I see I think I see almost all his movies I can say, oh, he got range. The first time I seen him with range it was in this movie, so I'll give him that.
Speaker 1:I'll give him that, all right. Mr Amazing, this is the Game of Traffic show. Join us for another episode. I hope you guys like and subscribe. Keep listening, because Game of Traffic show will only get better if you listen and give us feedback. Ever man, we appreciate you guys. Maybe one day we get a YouTube channel so you can see our lovely faces and we break that down with Mr Amazing, myself and special guests and the Game of Traffic crew. Alright, people love peace and gaming. We out later, y'all Outro Music.