Leaving Saskatchewan Politics and Focusing on Religion with Darryl Cooper

Darryl Cooper is an original guest, in a previous episode we discussed his being cancelled and leaving the Saskatchewan Party over liking a few tweets on twitter. In this episode he provides some reflections on this period, how he has moved on and we discuss the upcoming Provincial and Saskatoon Elections. We also discuss his venture into Podcasting on the topic of Christianity.

His new Podcast focusing on Christianity can be found here. https://www.youtube.com/@ThyKingdomComePodcast

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[00:02] Russell: All right, folks, and we're back. Russell here with the canadian conservative podcast today. I have Daryl Cooper. Darryl Cooper was a OG guest from when I first started the podcast, when it was still called Coffee Breath conversations. And I'd seen some news articles about Darrell. He was running for the SaaS party, and then he made some problematic tweets and I, or, sorry, he liked some problematic tweets. Liking was, was bad enough, I guess. And he had several hit piece articles that were put into major newspaper publications against him and which resulted in the SaaS party effectively dropping his nomination. And he came on the show, we talked about it, and we talked about a few different topics, a little bit about COVID So welcome the show, Darrell.

[00:51] Darryl: Oh, thank you, Russell. And, yeah, thanks for having me back. It's asking me to come back. It's really nice to get an opportunity to talk to you again and your audience.

[01:01] Russell: Yeah, it was good to see, good to see that you've started your own kind of talk show, thy kingdom come, and we'll talk about that a little bit later on. But I, you know, just for the audience who may not be aware of who you are, if you want to give them a little bit of a background about yourself.

[01:15] Darryl: Sure. Hey, I've live, I'm 63 years old, grew up farm boy, small town, Saskatchewan in the sixties and seventies. Never thought I'd leave the farm, but did, but lived in Saskatchewan my entire life. I was one of that generation where I think 75% of my graduating class left for Alberta because we had, what was it, 40 some years of socialist governments. And that was the time when there was a mass evacuation of Saskatchewan and. But I was one of them that stuck around. And I love this province. Like, I truly mean that sincerely. I love this province. And so I grew up and then I got into finance. So I got, there's nothing in farming in 1980. So I joined the CIBC in Regina to see how that worked out. And that worked out for 14 years with the CIBC as a banker. And then I started up Cooper wealth management at, at a major investment firm. And it was a really good fit, really good timing for me. Very blessed. Yeah. Successful business. Moved over Scotia McLeod in 2012 and retired in 2019 and then came out of retirement in 2022 and back into the business again. Now I'm back into the financial business again as well. As well, like selling gold and silver bullion as well as the securities business with IA private wealth. And also just started a podcast called Thy Kingdom Come with Sarah and Darrell. So a friend of mine Sarah sand and I are doing that together.

[02:54] Russell: That's awesome. Now, in about 2019, you were planning a run for the SaaS party at the time.

[03:03] Darryl: Right?

[03:04] Russell: And what happened with that run with the Sass party?

[03:09] Darryl: Well, just to get to preface that a bit, just to preface it, I had a 20 point lead. I'd been knocking doors for. For a year and a half because I had nothing else to do. I was out of the business and I was sitting at home and I started knocking doors. And I had. I had knocked every door two and a half times before I got taken out. And I had, you know, it was a breeze. I was going to win quite easily. And they. I look back on it now, and I believe it was the establishment that took me out. I don't necessarily blame press progress, or whatever those guys are. They kind of make me. I laugh about it now. I was really hurt by it and ashamed back then. I can imagine. I can't imagine the growth that you get when you go through something like that, because. But anyways, I was taken out because I wrote, first of all, I wrote an article about COVID and about the. And I did it in a kind of a seven different things that had come out about the possibilities of where Covid came from. And I was doing it in a lighthearted way. And I ended up by saying that there was some scientific possibilities that some astro scientists, like real scientists, had, had come up with, but that one never got me kicked out. It was three likes on three tweets from these. This group called QAnon, which I really didn't know that much about. I didn't really know what they were, other than they were supporting things that resonated with me. You know, I mean, they were against child trafficking. They were pro Donald Trump, which. And, I mean, there's other things there that. And I. And I happened to, like, three of them, or I. I don't know. The only other person that could have liked them was the Sass party. But I can't accuse them of that. I take. I own her. I own it, and that was it. So that's. Was asked to resign and did. And I. Yeah, that was what happened. I could go on for a long time, but let's just leave it at that.

[05:16] Russell: Are you upset that the sass party didn't seem to have your back or looking back at it now?

[05:24] Darryl: Oh, looking back at it now, it's. I actually laugh at about how big a story it was for such. Such little things at a time. It seemed like such a big thing and because the world was a different place then. I mean, since then, there's been so much other corruption and decadence that's come out satanic stuff. I mean, we're just talking like there's just, if you're, if you're half awake, you know, you look at the trite little thing that I got kicked out for, and I absolutely, the Sass party was, I think they, I don't think they, I think they kind of figured out that I probably wouldn't shut up and toe the line because that's all that the politicians are now, all the MLA's and MP's. They don't say a thing. We got no representation. The people have no representation anymore. And they knew I would represent the people. I think they knew that after getting to know me, and so I was going to be somebody that would be a real pain in their neck in the opposition chair after they kicked me out of caucus.

[06:34] Russell: Well, you're right that 2019 seems like a lifetime ago. It really does. And when you look at it, too, in 2019, cancel culture really was at its peak. People were, I mean, people obviously were following and just looking at what is this guy liking? And thats enough. And the fact that they ran an article against you in CBC and then all the affiliate press picked it up and just copied it, and it made its way pretty much all the way across Canada. I was actually quite shocked that a story about a guy running to be an MLA in Saskatchewan that liked a few tweets on a social media platform was enough to literally run full page articles. That's why I reached out to you. I saw that. So then I found you on social media. I kind of cold called you and you, very gratefully, not knowing who I was, came to the studio and actually did the interview with me. So that was amazing.

[07:37] Darryl: It was 2020, by the way, when I got kicked out, so.

[07:40] Russell: Oh, 2020, yeah.

[07:41] Darryl: Like, because that was the election right before the election. It was after the rip dropped, but go ahead.

[07:47] Russell: Well, like, looking at it now, looking at the state of the SAS party now, you were talking about, you know, like, establishment politics. Does it seem like any politician really stands for anything anymore?

[07:59] Darryl: No, not at all. No. We have first, you know, we basically, the british parliamentary system is the worst. It was designed to be the worst political democratic, democratic in the world system. The system. And because you got one vote to vote for either the leader, your candidate, or the party policies, one vote. And then so they have to, you have to vote pretty much for the party that you want to win. And then your elected leader is whipped into shape to say to vote and to shut up. And they, we've got no representation anymore. We have no, nobody. Like in the US, the system is, you know, you run as a Democrat or a Republican and you run on as a candidate, and, but there's no overseer telling you what you can and cannot see. If you're Marjorie Green or whatever her name is there, or, you know, Bernie Sanders, you can say what you want when you're running for office, your own, and you can talk to your, you're accountable to your constituents. These people that are elected right now are not accountable. And I'm really disappointed, and I think disappointed is a kind word to say in all of our elected officials from right across the country, other than a few of them that, you know, they got kicked out. I mean, I can't name them right off the top of my head. But, you know, there's a, there was a couple in Ontario, right? It's drawing a blank on them right now. But, like, stand up for the people, say something, but they don't.

[09:48] Russell: Well, what's really worrying to me? So, like, talking, we got, we got some big elections coming up in Saskatchewan and probably federally as well. So we have the Saskatoon election coming up, then we have the Saskatchewan election, and then we might possibly have a federal election this year. Who the heck knows about that? And then the US is having their big election. And people follow it closely in Canada, because what happens in the states can have a real big impact on us as well up here. But just looking locally at, I was looking at Cynthia Block's campaign, for example, and Cynthia Block comes across as the perfect candidate. Every photo that's posted on social media is picture perfect. Every conversation is so everything is just on point and perfect. Every slogan, all of us together. I don't know really what that stands for, what that means, but it's, it's good modern day sloganeering. But I've kind of followed, and there's some people that say, like, that her stuff is AI generated. I'm not 100% sure, but it's like, we're going to build the most respectful and safe city in Saskatchewan. I'm like, okay, but what does that mean? There's no substance to that whatsoever. Anyone can say those things. And even worse, you've been a city councilor for eight years. So what are you going to do different in the mayor's seat that you couldn't do as a city councilor? Why is that such a, a big difference?

[11:20] Darryl: Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

[11:23] Russell: Well, and then I look at someone like Robert Pierce, who's running for Ward three, and he actually had a hit piece done on him by the star Phoenix. Someone named Phil Tank ran a hit piece on him, calling into question his christian beliefs. You know, how could you support, you would expect from a Christiane pasture, a message of love and acceptance, but instead you're getting this. And I'm like, well, number one, like, why should christians listen to Phil Tank? Is Phil tank a Christian? Does he study theology? If he doesn't, then who really cares what he thinks? He can say whatever he wants. And, I mean, we could get into this, the whole, like, what I called, like, the hippification of Jesus, where leftists have turned, you know, the Lord into this, you know, this very hippie like character that's. That would, you know, would have totally loved communism if it was around when he was around. And I. And it's really shocking to see, you know, okay, we're gonna have a media peace article. Instead of attacking, really, Robert Pierce's proposed policies, they're attacking his faith instead.

[12:35] Darryl: Yeah, yeah, well, that's. That's. Yeah, they. They've never read the Bible, and if they have, they're just. They're just. They're misquoting what really? Jesus didn't. He said, I didn't come. I came with a sword, you know, to speak the truth and to hold people accountable. Yes, he sat with sinners and. But he sat with them to change them. He didn't sit with them to. Because he enjoyed their company. I mean, he loved everybody. And as a Christian, we are. We do love everybody. We don't have to like everybody. We don't have to like what they're doing. But, you know, from a heart centered, Christ centered life, we do have to do. Do love everybody. We really do. I can say that with. With honesty and as God as I witness, I'm sure you can, too. But the. Yeah, so the. This thing where you, like, you nailed it with calling him a hippie, you know, loving peace and love, you know, Jesus was just, you know, like, he loved everybody. Well, Phil Tank doesn't know a hail from a beans, and if he did know it, he wouldn't tell the truth anyways, so.

[13:45] Russell: Yeah, and that kind of reflects, too. You know, we're just looking at Saskatoon and you see, like they. Like I said, they had this marital candidate that seemed everything is just picture perfect all the time. Everything is just perfectly happy. Everyone is just, you know, and meanwhile, you have a city that has one of the highest murder rates per capita in Canada. Harvey Zorb was a 66 year old man living in the fair Haven area, and schoolchildren found his body in the morning. He was going for his morning walk to the corner store, and schoolchildren found his beaten body in the schoolyard, and they still haven't caught anyone, and it's essentially a cold case now. And then last year, there was a man who was going to ruh for cancer treatment, and there was deranged lunatic who had just gotten out of prison, who drove a screwdriver through his skull and killed him. And after he'd been let out of prison for eight years for stabbing someone else to death. And. And, I mean, there's men. We could go through a list here of all sorts of things. There was the poor 15 year old who got gasoline sprayed in her face a few weeks ago and lit on fire, and her face was, like, slothed off. It's just. It's, you know, we. Then we have a marital candidate who says, well, we're, you know, we have to do better. You know, that this person fell victim. No. This person had gasoline sprayed in their face and lit on fire by. By a lunatic.

[15:19] Darryl: Yeah, no, that. Yeah. The city is a mess. I have. I have strong views on what can be done there, but we don't need to discuss that right now. I'm happy to discuss that at any time, but I want to go back to Cynthia block because she won't go, the last I've heard, unless it had changed in the last day or two, she will not accept an invitation to go to ward two and three to the shelter to tour the shelter with the people. She is playing the. I don't know what you call it, the Biden game or the Trudeau game, whatever you want to call it, the typical liberal play. She is a huge liberal. I don't know if everybody knows that, but she is everything Justin Trudeau is. You know, you might call her the. The female Justin Trudeau. She can speak better than him. That's the only difference. You know, she's probably smarter than. A lot smarter than him, too. But. But her policies are. Don't let. Don't let her campaign fool you. What? Her policies are. Don't let him fool you at all.

[16:30] Russell: Well, you know, I think enough said is the fact that she's a. She's a former journalist. I think that's.

[16:36] Darryl: Yeah, yeah.

[16:37] Russell: Former mainstream legacy media journalist, and I think that kind of speaks for itself, the type of campaigning you get from that.

[16:45] Darryl: Yeah, yeah. She's got a. Yeah, a communications company to herself, but, yeah, go ahead. Anyhow. More. Yeah.

[16:52] Russell: Then let's. Let's move on a bit to provincial politics. We have. At the end of October, we have the Saskatchewan election. The assass party seems to be on fire right now, and not in a good way. They've had just issue after issue, and the polls are showing that the NDP has really latched onto that and they're kind of closing the gap rapidly. And. I don't know. What do you think? Do you think people just have SaaS party fatigue? New leaders should be brought in. How do you. Right. The ship. They're saying if the SaaS party wins, they'll most likely have a minority government.

[17:33] Darryl: Well, who would take up the seats besides the NDP and the SaaS party? Who do you think would win a seat? Are you suggesting the Sask United Party has a chance to win a seat?

[17:44] Russell: Well, I mean, the SAS United party, I've. You know, I know I met Nadine Wilson, John Hormick. Like, I met them. I went to a fundraiser that they were at just because I wanted to see. Right. They were in the area, and I said, well, I'll go and I'll see. And I. I liked what they had to say, but I just don't know if. I don't know if they'll get any seats this time around for it. Maybe if after this election, they stick around and they do a lot more campaigning. I wish they would do more interviews. I've been trying to get someone from their party onto my podcast for a while now just so I can ask more in depth, like, what is the difference between your party and the SaaS party? Like, what are the dividing lines here and what are you going to offer that's substantially different? Same thing. I've been trying to get someone from the Buffalo party onto the show as well. I've reached out to a few people in the past, because at the end of the day, if you're not satisfied, you know, this whole thing of, you have to vote for. You have to vote for the SaaS party this time around. And next time, I promise you can vote with your conscience, but this time, we just have to keep the NDP out. That's kind of what I've heard people saying.

[18:58] Darryl: Yeah, yeah, I think there's. That is going on. I don't know. The polls are that 338 candidate, that guy's like. Like he's got a great algorithm, whatever he does there, you know, with. With those. And he's pretty bang on. He's still got them in a majority government. He doesn't have anybody else getting a seat. So I, I mean popular vote is one thing, but winning the seats is another because there's such a concentration of the votes in the city with lesser seats. And the rural areas have predominantly went south party. But the exodus from them tells you that something is really rotten in the state of Denmark. And I think if I am in their shoes of the people that left, you know, if I'm from Arm river, that's my home writing. That's my heart. I mean my heart, my heart and soul in that area. From Hayward in Saskatchewan, originally down near Bigger Lake. But I think that's telling that the arm river guy was in there once. They made him the environment minister. Dana score pad and Danny goes and quits. So what is it? Is it because they can't speak? Is it because they're not allowed to say anything? They're not allowed to have an opinion around the table? I've heard from a reliable source that two people have ran that party for the last two years, Jeremy Harrison in Scottville. They have run all the policies and I don't even know where they're getting the policies from to be quite honest with you. I think they're coming down from other places because we went through that, whatever that period was. That thing happened. I don't think to talk about it, but that thing that happened and absolute unity across the country, uniformity in opinion. Every province scrapped their pandemic responses that they had in place for years. Roger Hodkinson from Alberta can attest to that and was angry about it because he spent years developing it and every one of them scrapped it to follow what the World Health Organization said. You know, which, I mean, now we're going to sign on and the senators are probably going to sign on saying, yeah, let's just give all of our medical freedom to, to the World Health Organization. That the vote was today, wasn't it? Or is it? Or is it not today? I don't remember. But anyways, that was the second reading of the Senate or first reading. I forget what it was. But regardless of that, I just, I don't think that there's any say whatsoever. I've heard that when Brad Wall started that there was. When you were on the cabinet table, you did get some say. Everybody got a say. I remember, I know a fella that worked for the Romano government in a junior position who said that if there was twelve guys at twelve men and women at the table, that the first, the lowest seated cabinet minister got one vote and the next one got 234567 and twelve when it hit the premier. So at least they had a tiered system for the voting system. But I understand that as wall was there even that the voting got a little bit less. So we're getting a little off topic there. But I mean, I think that's what the sinking ship is, is that people just don't have any say whatsoever. They realize that, you know, I become a Christian in 2021. I was, I was born again Christian and changed my life forever and it continues to change my life forever. And ephesians 612 is, is something that I think that we're, that we're dealing with right now. And it's. You're probably familiar with that verse. It's a, it's a very popular verse, but it's, you know, we, we deal with, you know, it's. We for. We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places. And, you know, there's a lot of people are talking that we're in the end times. I don't know. I don't think we are. I think we're. I think we're. The babylonian system that was developed way before Christ is a system that we use right now. And that ended up in the last days of the babylonian system was decadence, corruption, like, to the end. And that's what killed it. And so I think that we are right now, there is so much corruption, like, where's all the money go?

[23:23] Russell: Mm hmm. No one knows.

[23:25] Darryl: Where's the infrastructure money from Katherine McKenna? We don't. That we don't even know about that anymore. It's been swept aside. But then there's like, no, I. There's so much lost money and nobody cares. What about the bypass scandal? The $500 million of payload gravel giving away taxpayer money?

[23:51] Russell: Well, I mean, using a bit more of an eastern example, but Ontario, remember the billion dollars for the two gas fired power plants that just never existed? They spent a billion dollars on two gas powered power plants and. Well, they just simply don't exist. And no one seems to know where the money has gone. I personally think it's because money. The money's just worthless now. I think there's no point. And they don't even care because the money just doesn't mean anything anymore.

[24:20] Darryl: Yeah. If you want a prediction on the rental election, I think Sass party will win a majority government. Hey, yeah, I do.

[24:28] Russell: You think you'll be shaky?

[24:29] Darryl: NDP are so irrelevant in this world. And there's. There's not that many people that out outside the city that will vote NDP. They could lose every seat in. In Saskatoon, though. They. I heard Bronwyn Ayers in even in trouble. So now the candidate they got running, whatever, it doesn't really matter. Doesn't. Doesn't matter who the candidate is anymore. It's just the. If they're really fed up with the SAS party. So I don't know. That's my prediction. That they would still win a majority government, but would be nice to have them as a minority government with some real opposition now as a SAS united party. Real opposition.

[25:06] Russell: That's a fair question. But then I look kind of federally, and I saw there was a bit of a flash in the pan there when Aaron O'Toole tried red toryism, tried to out liberal the Liberals, tried to take neoliberalism to its farthest extent he could, and how it led to the PPC and it led to a major restructuring. Like, I know I have people that hate the PPC. I got people that hate the Conservative Party of Canada. I follow them all on social media and that. But one thing that's undeniable to me is that the PPC to me, and I wrote about this in one of my blog posts, I consider them the sharpening stone. They sharpened the conservative party's saber because the conservative party got scared for a minute. And they said, look at all these people bailing on us. Look at all these people. They're absolutely fed up. We better actually maybe have some little bit conservative policy moving ahead. And that's when I noticed Pier Poliev, when he first got in as party leader, they tried to run a cancellation campaign on him. And I was really disappointed in him because it was the big thing. It was hash Gateyet, hash Mgtow. And men go their own way in some of his YouTube videos. And I remember he was like stammering to try to explain it in parliament. And I thought, this guy doesn't stand a chance. And I don't know who he brought in, but it's like he just turned it right around and is it gonna be enough? Is the party a uni party? I don't know, but they couldn't be any worse than the current party.

[26:56] Darryl: No, no, no. That's right. I've learned a lot. I listened to my. When we. After we talked, I listened to the interview we did four years ago. And, you know, I was pretty kind to the establishment at that time. I've learned a lot. And I was very, you know, I was naive. I really actually thought that I was excited that I was going to be going into politics in the third trimester of my life, or now I've decided I want to live till I'm 120. So it was only the second half of my life. But let's, that's another story. But, you know, if we, we declare, we declare what we want to be. And I, so I guess, but anyways, I was really excited about going, this next chapter of my life, going into politics because I had a list of things that I wanted that I would change, you know, and then I would talk to Scott Mo about and, oh, my, like, I seen how politics work now. And, I mean, it's just, I did, I was really naive. I always remember, though, because I grew up in a political family. My grandfather was a member of parliament in Diefenbaker's government, and he swept power under beat MJ Caldwell, who was the leader of the CCF at the time. And he didn't even have to campaign. He didn't expect he was going to win. He was at a, he was the reeve of the council, and he got a call saying, you won. He was. So, anyways, but he, but they, there was always seemed to be some integrity in being a politician and speaking your mind and that type of thing, but, so I was excited about being in politics. But, you know, now I just don't, I can remember people saying, you know, if you ever get into politics, like your grandpa, you know, there's something that happens to people when they go to Ottawa. This is even back in the seventies, I remember people saying that, you know, when I was just a young man, young teenager, whatever, and in the eighties and there, something happens to people when they go in. They get into office, something happens to them. They're good people. They got lots of good ideas and then nothing. So what is it? What goes on? Like, I mean, I know lots of retired politicians never asked them, I guess. But I mean, I think it's the system. It's the whip.

[29:19] Russell: No, I agree with you, Darrell. I think they get in, they have great ideas, and then they hit the crushing bureaucracy of everything. The endless meetings that go nowhere, the, the language they have to use while they're there. That's disingenuous. And it's way too bland. You can't make definitive statements because everyone's scared that you'll be held to that statement. And they don't want to make a statement that's wrong.

[29:42] Darryl: Yeah.

[29:43] Russell: As well as I think there's a lot of lobbying that goes on. I think as soon as you hit that green switch, I think the lobbying machine goes into overdrive. And, you know, they say anyone can run for government. Right. You know, that's kind of the lie they tell people. Anyone can be a politician. It's expensive. And I think people that get in and the lobbyists say they're just cheering you on and they're saying, go, you, go, you, as soon as you get in. Okay, here's our list of demands, and here's what you're going to do and not do. And you got to run everything by the party whip. And the whip, you know, whips you into shape, and then all of a sudden, you just realize you're caught in this machine and you can't be authentic in this machine. This machine will not allow you to be authentic. Authentic. You'll be run out of your party. Your lobbyists will turn on you, the donors will turn on you, and then it becomes nothing to do with constituents and everything to do with trying to get to that golden pension and pull the parachute as quickly as possible.

[30:41] Darryl: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you, I guess you can't blame them, I guess. But we're, we're. This is the, the most serious time in Canada right now. They're. The destruction of the western world is the agenda of the UN. The UN agenda, UN sustainable development agreements, wF, or the World Economic Forum. Just puppets. They're just, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're just puppets for spokespeople and little places they can go and, and say things that the UN can't say out loud. But the destruction of western society is well on its way, and people aren't waking up to it. I mean, I would bet that there's only, there's less than 20. There's probably 2020, 5% of people that are baby understand what's really going on. We're heading to cultural Marxism. And, and it's, it's the Fabian, Jason Kristoff is. I don't know if you know Jason Kristoff. He's a podcaster and freedom guy, and he says the Fabianism. Fabianism is. Was a french politician. You probably know that, Russell, you're pretty well readdehe. And it's slow drip without ever lifting any weapons to take to turn a country into full blown socialism, which is basically clay communism.

[32:06] Russell: Well, I mean, I'm a little optimistic. I choose to remain optimistic because at the end of the day, they're their own worst enemy. That's the thing. They're ready to do the victory lap through the institutions. They're ready for it and they're even starting to do it. But I don't think it's, I don't think it's going to work. I think their grand plan is going to backfire on them. My biggest concern is the people. You know, I'm going to call them the people on the right. I just. The people that oppose socialism and the people that oppose communism. And I don't care if they're libertarian or classic conservative or even classic liberals and that, that just know that socialism doesn't work. There's even a, there's even, like, Og, like I'm talking Og communists who said, like, we don't want socialism, we just want workers, you know, to have their rights and stuff like that, like the old school ones. And they're all, they're, they all fight amongst each other, whereas the socialists and the, and the neo Marxists, I call them end stage leftists and that, so the ones ready to take their big leap through the institutions, their big victory LAPD, they don't care about hypocrisy. I always hear people, well, what if the rules are reversed? They know that. They know that. They don't care. They will. They will be. It's all about winning to them. And they will do whatever it takes to win. They will say one thing the next day, they'll say something completely different. They'll mot and Bailey, they'll do all the tactics. And everyone on the right is like, you know, I find the people that are opposing, they're like, they're little inquisitionists because they're always trying to find out who's secretly more lefty than they, than they thought they were. So they target each other. And meanwhile, all the lefties, they're just laughing their way to, well, they already laughed their way through the banking system. They're laughing their way all the way to hell. I guess.

[34:04] Darryl: They are. They are. And I want to, I want to commend you for your, your optimism, because I am optimistic like that, too. And I do get on a point, like, where I was saying people, we need people to realize, though, what's happening. Like, I'm optimistic that it is going to fall apart as well. And I'm optimistic that, well, in ancient times, it was a move of God. Whether the move of God is uprising of the people or something even supernatural, I don't know. Like, that's up to him. But I do believe that you're right that this is going to fall apart. And it may, well, it may get worse before it gets better.

[34:47] Russell: But, you know, diving a bit into like the theology a little bit behind all this, cancellation has been a really effective tool for the left to use against their opponents. But it has a fundamental flaw. Christianity rejects materialism and canceling people relies on people's attachment to materialism. So people I've seen, I know people who have been canceled and they have had profound spiritual revelations from it afterwards where they just realized I had all this materialism at the big house. I had this and I lost everything. But you know what? I still have the things I need and now they can't take anything else from me now. And now I'm free to really say what I want to say and do what I want to do. And I really do think that there's for the people because like I said, cancellation revolves around the idea that we're attached to our materialistic needs and our materialistic goods, which the left is. They love their materialistic things. And that's why Christianity is, is really, it's an antidote to Marxism because you have to reject the material and you have to look for the immaterial reward at the end.

[36:10] Darryl: Yeah. Yeah, that's, you really, thank you for bringing that up. Because that's why christians are so dangerous is because they stand, they, they stand for the truth. You know, they, they have their faith. We have our faith and we, we stand by it. And yeah, I'm a, I'm not here to feel sorry for myself. I'm actually grateful for the fact that I kind of lost pretty much everything. You know, I got a divorce. I had a great business. I had, you know, politics and everything else. I was kind of an establishment guy, right? And, but my life was, you know, there's a quote in, or the scripture in matthew where, you know, you, the man that builds his house on sand doesn't withstand a storm. And I think that I'm getting a lot of things. All these things were swept away from me so I could build a foundation on rock. And I think that's what happens to a lot of christians that you just mentioned. You know, they lose everything. You know, they get whatever, whatever their situation, all of them are different. I go to great church churches and see all walks of life, you know, all social, demographic races. It doesn't racial, there's no color. I mean, we just, we're just a multicultural group of people. And man, I tell you, the stories that you hear and the joy that you get when you realize that all you really need is Jesus. And it is such a powerful. You're so powerful with him.

[37:42] Russell: I agree. And, you know, like my, I. What? I've noticed that there's been a major revival in Christianity. I mean, I won't lie. Like, I was a lapsed Catholic for a long time. I really was. I grew up Catholic. I was an altar server. I went, you know, I almost went to the seminary when I was younger. I almost, I almost did. And then, and then that just wasn't the right call for me. And then had some personal things happen, like many young people do, where they're decide to put aside religious values and take up materialistic values. And it's actually been the last couple of years I started going back to, going back to church, and now I'm involved with the knights of Columbus and heavily involved in my church as much as possible. And it's made a very positive difference in my life. And I brought three more people back to church, too. Yeah, we go every Sunday now, and, you know, everyone is that I've talked to that, you know, that I've brought to church or, you know, even if they just show up once and they have a marked improvement in their mental health and their life, we go to church on Sunday, and then when we leave church, we feel better, we feel revitalized, and, and that's that. It's that absence of meaning, I think, for a lot of people. And the, and really, the, you know, one of the things about the, about the pandemic and everything is that people lost connection with each other, and now they're finding it again. And I think that's a really powerful thing.

[39:17] Darryl: Oh, it's amazing what happened. The thing, the pandemic, you called it. They would cause a revival amongst Christian, Christians in Christianity. I found my group, my tribe, through speaking at the freedom rallies, and there was christians there, and there was christian churches that were stayed, that stayed open, and they didn't. So we. I'm so grateful that they kicked me out of the party. I'm so grateful. On the other hand, if I'd have stayed in, I'd have had some fun, too, because I'd still be sitting at the, you know, they couldn't kick me out of. Right out of the legislature, so that might have been okay, too. But, I mean, my life has turned out so fantastic. I'm speaking of those, speaking at those rallies and meeting the people of God that I did. It just has changed my life that I. In ways that you. You hear this all the time, and I tell you, experiences, you really don't know what. You really don't know what it's like. It's just unbelievable. And I'm so grateful for what. That's what's going on. And we did. You know, I came in 2021. I became reborn again. And my podcast, we want to get into that right now. Do you want to?

[40:40] Russell: Let's go for it.

[40:41] Darryl: There. You ready for it?

[40:42] Russell: So let's go for it.

[40:43] Darryl: So. And you start. Okay. So people say, oh, I get these things in my head. I was really successful in my business. I didn't know that God was favoring me in order that God was favoring. He gave me gifts. He gave me the gift of the gab. He gave me the energy. He gave me a good physical body to that could withstand lots of work, dress, all that sort of stuff. Play. Work hard. Play hard. Five kids. I got five grandchildren now just.

[41:11] Russell: Oh, wow.

[41:11] Darryl: All blood. ******, ******. So ******. Well, bros, it isn't even funny. And. But I had the, you know, what everybody would think would be the perfect life, you know, making big bucks in the finance business. Had a great group of clients, amazing clients, amazing staff. And it all blew up. But you know, what. What I. What I. What I come to is, is now that I'm. That when we went through Covid and I found Jesus, that things were different. And so I came back into the business because I wanted to help people, because I could see the things like the finance business, the whole financial markets have been manipulated so much that 2022, I came back and. And I said about a year ago, I started getting. Hearing what God wanted me to say, I guess what it was putting on my heart. Now, a lot of christians don't believe that God talks to you, but I do believe that in, through. I do believe that. I do believe through prayer that those things that I used to get when I. Before I was putting God first, back when. When I was successful in the investment business, before I was reborn again, that was coming from God. I just thought it was me. I just thought I was just smart or whatever. I don't know, you know? And anyhow, I got this thing where I Darrell, you. You need to do a podcast, and you can talk about what you're. You can talk about politics, and you can talk about sports because you like sports. You can talk about current events because you're always up and date on that. You can, but you need to evangelize me. You need to do something for the Christians, because as Christians, we are commissioned to do that. We are commissioned to bring the glory of God to the people in our community or as far wide as we can reach. And so I couldn't figure out how to do it. I was like, okay, I had a buddy of mine working with me and we're going to call it the Darryl Cooper report. And, yeah, it just didn't seem right. And I was a bit kind of apprehensive, like, for me, like to dig in, dive into the Bible, because I'm kind of new at it, even though I've read it and studied it quite a few times now since I've been back or since I've been out, and I've been really good teaching it. But also I get an email from a person I was in the new age prior to getting. I was like a new ager, I guess you'd call me. Okay. I had this hybrid view of Christianity. Jesus was a prophet, but there was other people, and it was just, the universe is great. There's no such thing as hell. Everything, everybody's, everybody's going to heaven. We're all our own gods. We all make up our own minds. All this stuff, all that stuff, that was all that. And there's a lot of people out there. They still are. But anyways, I, and also I get an email from a person that I knew from the new age, and her name was Sarah sand, and this was about eight months ago. And she said, can I come in and see you? Like, her email said, I would like to go for coffee or something like that and talk. And I didn't really know what she wanted to talk about. She goes, maybe we'll talk about finance. So she comes in, long story short, sits down after the pleasantries. She said, I said, so what can I help you with? She goes, well, I don't know. God's just been telling me to come and see you. And he brought us together and that meeting lasted 2 hours. And then we have not missed probably a day of talking to each other. And then we launched our podcast, Thy Kingdom Come podcast, with Sarah and Darryl last week. And, yeah, so she's, she's a counselor. She has thy kingdom come counseling and, or thy kingdom counseling, I guess it's called. So that's how the podcast got started. We, we bring on guests, pastors to talk about their experiences. We bring on, well, today was, we had launched a drug addict fellow that was a drug addict and a gang member, James Mann, who is, I mean, you can't believe the reformation of him. And team challenge is got an 80% success rate of not relapsing, but they have to go for twelve months, and it's all christian, christian based.

[45:26] Russell: Okay.

[45:27] Darryl: The secular society has a less than ten, has a night over 90% relapse rate. And they keep trying to reinvent the wheel, the government, as it does with anything it gets involved in, and whether they're, you know, they're well meaning, but they have to have a whole bunch of bureaucrats and a whole bunch of secular psychologists to tell them. And, I mean, I know they're well meaning. I get that. I don't try to trash them. I say, but man alive, there's a proven formula right here. You just have to accept Jesus and stay for twelve months and you've got an 80% success rate. But compassionate society does not allow this homelessness that's going on in this, in this province right now without doing something that's effective.

[46:11] Russell: Well, I'm really happy to hear that your podcast is launched and that, you know, I've already kind of seen some of the clips I think it's going to take off. I mean, you like yourself and miss sand there. Like, I can see that there's definitely good charisma. And I think that's very key for if you're going to have, like, a two host podcast, you have to be able to really bounce off each other and be able to make it work. And from what I've seen, I think it's going to do really well. I really do. And I'm excited for you. And I'm glad to hear that there's still programs out there that are faith based that are seeing such high success rates.

[46:48] Darryl: Yeah, yeah, we are. We're really excited. We video we recorded for four months before, so we've got enough recordings to take us into January, but we might start posting more of our longer content. We've got the shorts, three a day going out, and, yeah, we're having a lot of fun. Yeah, we do have a good rapport with each other. You know, there's pretty hard to get mad at somebody like Sarah Sands. She's just a. She's full of light, you know, and she was a new age counselor at the time and somebody that I'd seen when I was going through problems. And now she's. She's a christian based counselor, so. Yeah, really cool.

[47:28] Russell: So I'll ask you this. You know, new age, like you said, very like, new age generally is very, extremely optimistic where everyone's going to go to heaven. And it's the, you know, hell is more of a, it's a concept more than a real place. What changed your mind on new age that made that where you decided to, you know, believe in the existence of hell as like a physical place that people go to if they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing?

[48:06] Darryl: That's a great question because I was hanging around with a couple during COVID when the lockdowns were on and we were studying a new age book. The three of us were, and we were good friends. And I can't put my finger on, everything's been so subtle. Like, it's not, I'm not like a lot of these people that will say just a, whoa. You know, I had this awakening. Now I'm getting more and more. Just the last six weeks, it's just been, I've been, it's been. Lord has finally said, hey, I've humbled you. You've humbled yourself enough. He is our father and he's like, like any father on earth, he is our heavenly father. And so he will discipline us. He's not testing us. He will discipline us for our misbehavior. And I did things that were I would not have imagined myself ever doing in my life. Russell, I am, you know, I have finally gotten over, you know, one of the things in the Christianity is you have to forgive people. You have to forgive people. I look back and I said, you know, I've always been a person that's been self accountable to myself. The only person I had the most trouble with forgiving was myself. I never really blamed anybody else for anything I did because I was all I, it was free will. But the lord disciplines you and brings you back what shape, what got me. You know, what it was. I was speaking at a rally in Prince Albert. I'm going to keep this short. And I met a person and she was a nurse in Melfort and she was just there watching and there was only like 40 or 50 people there watching. And, and then we got talking just a little bit and we got to know each other. And when she got back, she got fired from her job for attending the rally in Prince, Alberta. Uh, absolutely. It's all, it's, it's, it's devastating. Way more devastating than my story. But I mean, these stories, when we're historians are going, our kids are going to look back and they're just going to go, really? That happened, that happened to you, dad or grandpa, you know, or that happened to your friends? And so she said to me, we were talking to the phone one day about what was going on after this rally, and she said, you got to come to Melfort, and you got to come and meet my pastor. He's a little bit crazy, but he's not crazy. But we're. We're pentecostal, so we're. We're charismatic. We're flamboyant. We are. We always say we're. We're just. We don't have religion. We just have Jesus and worship. So we. We speak that. We speak the gospel. We speak the doctrine, strong doctrine from the new and Old and New Testament, and we worship for. Stand up and worship for an hour. That was the biggest thing I had to get used to. So I went. I went to his church one day, and I met Pastor Paul Dubois. And he's not crazy. He was wonderful. And we sat down at. After the church and for lunch, and we both had the same ring on, and both of our dad's dads had these rings. These were our dad's rings, and we've been best friends ever since. And I just got talking to him about my walk, and I think he had more influence. He's pretty perceptive as to what people are going through and start talking about Jesus. I always had Jesus in my life. I had a pretty good upbringing. My aunt and uncle were strong Lutherans, and they used to take me to the church all the time. Some of the church activities. I always knew Jesus. I always felt.

[51:40] Russell: Yeah.

[51:41] Darryl: Never felt he went away, but I didn't realize that he's the only true God, the only real God. And so Pastor Paul kind of explained a few things to me, and the next thing you know, I'm asking him, I said, would you? I want to give myself to Jesus, and I want to get water baptized. And so there we were in August, so from that meeting in May. Yeah. And I. Oh, and by the way, the couple I was hanging out with that we were reading new age, they gave themselves. They give themselves to Christ, too.

[52:14] Russell: That's a great story. That really is.

[52:16] Darryl: To me, it was the Holy Spirit that was at work, because it has to be the Holy Spirit. Something's got to influence you because you can't say, like, nobody said anything. And you can't tell somebody that doesn't believe in Jesus that you've got to believe in Jesus, but the Holy Spirit can in ways that we don't understand.

[52:34] Russell: Well, that's the. That's part of the mystery, right? The mystery of faith. I saw a modified version of Pascal's wager. So anyone that doesn't know. So Pascal's wager is the idea that if. If God doesn't exist and you're a Christian, well, you're not at any loss. But if God exists and you're Christian and you do what you're supposed to do, you're going to go to heaven. If God doesn't exist and you're an atheist, well, no loss. But if God exists and you're an atheist, well, you're in big trouble. And it's. And there's been some. There's been some good theological and philosophical debates about the wager. But I propose, and I heard this, that there's a modern Pascal's wager.

[53:21] Darryl: Oh.

[53:22] Russell: And I call. And I don't call it this. I heard about this, and I kind of just modified it. Here's the thing. There's a group of people in the world, and they're not an insignificant group, and they believe in evil. They worship demons.

[53:36] Darryl: Oh, they're Satanists. Yeah, yeah.

[53:39] Russell: They're not just Satanists. They're just. Yes, there's a satanist.

[53:42] Darryl: Okay, sorry about that.

[53:44] Russell: But there's people out there, and they worship evil. They. In their obsessive quest to rid the world of Christianity, and they have admitted to themselves that evil exists, and they will worship evil if it means the ruination of Christianity. So I would propose a modern pascal wager in that even if God doesn't exist, opposing these people is right. And just. And I think that we should, which is a bit of a variation on it, because here's the thing. You have people, music, artists, celebrities, politicians. You have people saying. Yeah, yeah. You have people saying that they worship evil and that they believe in demons and they'll dress up like them. And I mean, you got entire, quote unquote, art stuff like Maria Abramovich and people like that. And, you know, they. They believe in it. They obviously do. They're not doing it just for kicks. They obviously. They believe in it. So I think we should take them at their word.

[54:49] Darryl: Yeah. Yeah, they are. Witchcraft, maybe. Witchcraft. Yeah. Big time. Can I just. I mean, the. I think that I profess. I. Purdue profess that there is a day coming, and it's. It. Like I said, I think it could get worse before it gets better, but where all of the institutions that we have right now are corrupt. You know, you look at the Coutts boys, the judicial system, as an example, just one example of the decadence of what's going on in the judicial system. Our education system with some of the stuff that they're promoting in the schools right now, they're losing children to the home schools. Our medical system, we know it's corrupt as well as run by big pharmaceutical. So, I mean, and their financial institutions, all the institutions are all from the babylonian period, but they're going to be a great shaking and they're good. And the politicians right now, and, you know, I think that they should be heeding a warning that when, that your silence is compliance, your complicity will not be stood, stood the test of time, and you will be replaced by righteous men and women. And what your maker, or what will happen to you here on earth as far as punishment or what your maker decides, you just, you're doing Pascal's wager right there. What you just said.

[56:19] Russell: Hundred percent.

[56:21] Darryl: I just want to leave it with people that, you know, man, we have got a beautiful country. We got, we had a beautiful province. We've got so much going for us. Don't lose hope. We've got, we've got a good lord and he's on our side. We just need, you know, if you need help, that is, you know, the church is the way, the God, God is the way, Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and nothing else can get in the way. And I really believe that a revival breaking out, it will happen. And that's going to shake the, the walls. To shake the walls however it happens. I can't wait. I got my popcorn ready, so thank you, Russell, and take care. And God bless. God bless. Everybody out.