The Thing About FinTech Podcast

There is no innovation in Fintech | Tim Grant, CEO at Deus X Capital

Toby Babb & Anvar Karimson

What’s the difference between innovation and evolution in financial services?

In this thought-provoking episode, Tim Grant, CEO at Deus X Capital, joins hosts Toby Babb, CEO of Harrington Starr, and Anvar Karimson, Group CTO at Kepler Cheuvreux, for a refreshingly honest conversation about building real change in FinTech.

From disrupting digital assets to redefining operating models, Tim unpacks what it truly takes to create meaningful growth—and why most firms are chasing innovation without truly understanding it.