Inside Golden State Politics

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With friend of the show, political analyst   Bill Schneider, we discuss the impact of Gaza on  American politics.  We examine how the Republicans are using redistricting to keep control of the House of Representatives and California's role in trying to block them.

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Alright,

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Welcome

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to

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another episode of Inside Golden State Politics. I'm Bill Bki, the former city editor and columnist for the Los Angeles Times,

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and

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with me

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is

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our Executive producer director,

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Nancy Buki.

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Bki.

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And I'm

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I'm Sherry j

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political analyst

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and self style, the media agent

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coming to

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to you for.

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trying to

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to keep track of the war in Gaza, but I,

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I

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I can't do it.

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I

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I can't watch images of

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or

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or read anymore

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about

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emaciated babies dying from starvation,

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add to

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to that higher horror.

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The

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The images of war and violence

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seemingly

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occurring

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everywhere,

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everywhere,

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and

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and it gets tougher and tougher

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to

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to face reality. With any kind

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Of

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of optimism.

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Hey,

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y'all

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knock it

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it off.

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We've

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We've gotta be better human beings than that.

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Over to

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to you, bill Jerry, our guest,

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is

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Bill Schneider, professor ERUs

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at the

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the SHE School of Policy and Government at George Mason University,

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and

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author of the book Standoff How America

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Became Ungovernable

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Vote very appropriate. Bill? Yes talk about the implications of Gaza

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on

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domestic American politics. I'm

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thinking

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especially of the importance of Jewish voters in elections and, and

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all

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of that.

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that.

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Well, we just saw one implication. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's on the very farthest edges of the right and is normally a very strong Donald Trump enthusiast, has just criticized the war in Gaza, criticized Israel. A close ally of the United States, thereby annoying President Trump and also, possibly enhancing her images, an antisemite among her followers. But she is one of the first people on the right to break with the Gaza War and Israel. But

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is it

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it that it's been so low, so difficult

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for

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for the far right to

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criticize the, the

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The war in Gaza

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to

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to criticize the military

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acts of

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of Israel? Well, Israel is an ally of, Israel is an ally of the United States. Trump has been giving arms to Israel. There's a very close relationship between the United States and Israel. So people on the right have been very reluctant to speak out against Israel. Trump's allies are essentially right wingers all over the world. Netanyahu in Israel, the Prime Minister of Hungary, Putin is really a right winger in Russia. he gives visas to people who are, who, who are not woke. he, he, he does, he has, he has a special visa program, and one of the ways you qualify for a Russian visa now is to prove that you're not woke. He also supports both Ro in Brazil. He supports Afri. Connors in South Africa. The most right wing people in the world are all supported by Donald Trump. Yeah. Why is it that, I noticed that Trump now,

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in the

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the last few days

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has,

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Criticized Netanyahu

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and

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his government because there's a, a groundswell of criticism coming up in the country and in the world of Netanyahu and his government. I mean, it's outrageous to most people that whatever the justification he is, allowing children to starve, that is unacceptable and outrageous to most people all over the world and Trump

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visuals

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alone, Barbara, Russia, and this is not a surprise when.

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to,

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I think because, you know,

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If

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if he doesn't need you anymore,

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if

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if you look like you're being a drag on him, an albatross around his neck that you're not helping,

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that you're

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that you're kind of

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making it

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it worse for him,

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he

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he will throw you out the window and basically this is what's happening with Netanyahu

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as

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as long as Netanyahu. Flattered Trump. Remember, he delivered a letter having nominated Donald Trump

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for

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the Nobel Peace Prize, which Trump wants more than almost anything else in the world except money and loyalty. that's one of the reasons that

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Trump

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is

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beginning to turn his back

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to turn his back

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on

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on Netanyahu.

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It,

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it's, does it help him politically to remain

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at

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at Netanyahu side?

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and

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And I think that's a

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big

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driver. Of

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of

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Trump

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behavior

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on any level?

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what

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What do you guys think? Well, i think,

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the

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the American Jewish community seemed to be split on this. Yes, there was a, meeting over the weekend of,

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Jewish

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young people.

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I

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guess they sounded like college age, age students In Washington.

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and they

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they had a number of speakers and, just reading the, news accounts of that meeting. There was a, decidedly

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pro

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Netanyahu,

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pro Laud,

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which is his political party.

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yeah,

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I thought so. and, and I think if you go into the universities and look at the youth groups,

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You'll

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find,

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them

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split on this, on this matter

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I

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I mean, big news, you don't have unanimity in the Jewish community.

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on

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this matter.

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or

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right. Or not

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matters.

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fact, Jews are split. That's correct.

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And it

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it appears that is the younger Jews

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who

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are,

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less

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likely to be originally pro-Israel,

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pro Zionism. the

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polls indicate that

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the

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the was also the, uh, New York City mayor will actually seem to indicate.

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that

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when, uh,

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mom,

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Donny got a significant percentage of

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not.

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just the Jewish vote, but the young

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Jewish

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votes, and of course the pro-Palestinian,

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vote

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Yeah, he's, he's a Muslim. I'm really surprised to hear that there was an overwhelming, or at least a more significant

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wave of

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of support among

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Jewish

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young. Voters.

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voters.

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Well, this was a meeting and I'm not sure what Jewish voters would've attended this meeting. There is a significant number of young Jews who are very religious, who are very pro-Israel, very active in Israeli affairs, and they probably would've attended this meeting. I don't, I don't know. I don't know who was there or what it was a meeting of,

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And

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and it's one meeting.

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I

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I mean, who knows? I'm just,

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my

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sense is that there was a significant generational.

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split

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It shows up

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Jews.

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That's true when it comes to support or opposition

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to

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what Israel is doing in Gaza. That is true.

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what do you think, Schneider? Have you

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That is absolutely correct.

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And the

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the Israeli government is, sort of split in the fact two of, baby's cabinet members,

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Support

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expulsion of the Palestinians from God. a,

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A

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a move that, many people consider

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genocide

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and the

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use

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of the terms genocide

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has

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become very inflammatory and,

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their

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proposal is, is

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inflammatory and

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and it split the government

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And,

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Netanyahu

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their

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votes to keep in power. They

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election

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coming up next.

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year,

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Don't, they needs the votes of the, the Jewish anti, those two, of those two extreme right wing, cabinet members. He needs their votes to

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needs a

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keep

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keep more than that

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coalition

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together. Yeah. He's, A lot of what he's done is simply to stay in power, keep outta jail.

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That's a big

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true.

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I

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I mean, this is, I, I, I have believed for a long time that,

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part of

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of what's going on here is,

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A,

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a, a flailing

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try keep the

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the board going, keep him

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himself

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in office, and that will delay, if not cancel out

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his

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trial and, or,

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the

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the verdict, which mm-hmm. You not only out of office, but probably

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maybe

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to jail. Mm-hmm. If we can, switch subjects.

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the

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issue of drawing, legislative and congressional districts

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To

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meet, changing population, commonly known as redistricting, has moved,

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from

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the, think,

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think

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tank and classroom, onto the mainstream of politics. Sherry. You've been in the classroom

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and

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and you've been in the mainstream of politics. I've been in people doing reinforcement. No, you tried to explain to me, just

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redistricting

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to

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all

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all kinds of groups.

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tell

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tell us what's going on in this matter.

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Which

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one?

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Well, I'm,

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I,

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this

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is fascinating.

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Individuals.

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is where

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California is, is

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at the m.

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of,

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Well.

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of, of a

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A dynamic that people

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either

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don't know about,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

don't

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

understand, or don't care about, and that is

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

how

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

legislative and congressional districts are drawn

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

because

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

when

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the, the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the majority of the house of representative is so thin.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And it belongs to the Republicans. The Republicans have got to do everything they can to solidify, to at least add a few seats

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to that already narrow

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

margin.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

How do you do it? Well, you know what redistricting is,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

is a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a process that goes through every 10 years after

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

census has been taken and it

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

redistributes. A

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

population.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

within

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

congressional districts, each state has X number of districts according to the formula. And then you have to draw the lines

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

for the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the districts. Trump started pushing

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Texas Luck,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

guys,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I can see that

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

You

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

can do those lines and come up with maybe five more

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Republican

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

seats. We

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

oust,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Democrats and keep. Only through your redistricting,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

keep

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

keep the majority in Congress. You gotta do it. Well, it's easy to do it

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Texas,'cause Texas still does

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

reapportionment. It's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

It's still the legislature that draws the lines. It's still the politicians

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

who

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

who can choose their voters. It's not the voters who have any say in reapportionment in states like Texas.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Well,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that's the big danger for Democrats. A surprise, surprise.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

The

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

only break I can see in the near, in the near future on Donald Trump

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

is the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the possibility that the Democrats, and they must

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

take

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

one house

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

of the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Congress and it looks

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

more

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

like that house

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

than the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Senate.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Now, a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a certain governor

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

who

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

who has become the.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Model

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of a position among

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

politicians,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

among elected officials

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Donald Trump, and guess who that is?

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Governor

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Newsom said

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Texas

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

tries that

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I'm

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

going to call

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a mid cycle

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

reapportionment. We're

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

We're not supposed to even think about reapportionment until after

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the 23rd census.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Well. Gavin read the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Constitution of the State of California

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

28. There was,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

an

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

initiative passed

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

mandated that the state legislative districts

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

must

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

be created by the

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

independent,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Independent New Apportionment Commission, a citizen

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Reapportion

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

commission, a bipartisan citizens,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

then

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

two

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

years later.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

they

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

added the congressional

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

delegation.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

It's in the constitution. It's protected

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

by

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the state con

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

constitution

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of county.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

of

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

You

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

You know, wait, you know, it's protected by the, state constitution, and

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I remember the, old days. yeah. Wasn't that

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

fun?

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

before

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That was really fun. I mean, before Trump,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

when,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

way before Trump, the Constitution was more than a,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a piece of paper. I don't know. It's my feeling that if

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Newsom

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

wants to do this and have,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

he will have,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

he'll have the party behind him.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

He'll be

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

be able to do that. He's in a knife fight

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

with

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

with the Republicans. and he didn't.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

as, as my friend George

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

you

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Pointed out, lemme finish what I was saying. And there, and he, he can, if he so chooses that he's in,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

he's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

in, conversations with legislative

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

leaders now,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

but

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

you've gotta know

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

That

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it's, it is protected in the Constitution.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And what I was about to say is, and we all know what respect Constitution is getting

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Not

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

right.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

here's what

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

what he can do, and this is what he is looking.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

at. He

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

He can

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

go to the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to voters

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

with another initiative,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

another ballot proposition

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that could

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

could either

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

erase. The

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the commission or suspend the commission until

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

say,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

we can

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

we can do this.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

we

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

We can have a mid cycle

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

reapportionment and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and go back to what the Constitution demands

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for the 2030.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

contribution. It's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

possible.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Or

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

he can just go to the legislature.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

since the Democrats have, a super majority, a two-thirds majority,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

They

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

they can pass a law and emergency law

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and do

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

do it

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and find themselves obviously in court.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

It's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

interesting.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Republican

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

states, by and large, are more likely.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

To have

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the good old days of reapportionment when the legislature got together and

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

drew

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the districts that they wanted drawn for themselves.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

It's the more elector,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Democratic large states like California,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

like

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

New York, like Pennsylvania,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

who have.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

fewer options.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

They

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

They have their hands tied

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

bit

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

this is,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

done by independent.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

commissions.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I think, I think this is going to,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

have a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a lot to do with, a couple of things. It's

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

definitely the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the control of these state legislatures, which is

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

tremendously

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

important

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

and.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

tremendously, ignored by,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

most of the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of the media and the citizens,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the state legislatures

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

become even

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

more important today

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

as they

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

As they tackle the.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

this.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And, it will, it will affect, their voting on, not only on this, issue, but on,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for instance, on Medicare. On Medicare, Medicaid. Medicaid. Yeah.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

It's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

all kinds of things.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

be, will be up.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

perhaps. Bill, what do you think is this fight more than the classroom? Is it a big deal?

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Oh

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the, the, the state legislative races are now part of the national political contests.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Uh.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

states are now under the control of Republicans. Cal California is one of the few states that's controlled by Democrats. New York actually has much more mixed control. It has a lot of Democrats, but they didn't have a partisan redistricting. Texas, the whole state is controlled by Republicans. It,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

It,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it, it, yeah.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Fortunate now in New York

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

is

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

done

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

by an

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

an independent commission, and Florida, which is another third largest state, is controlled by Republicans. So, both parties see state legislatures as ways of influencing national politics. And that, that's, something new, isn't it? Yes. Because partisanship has, partisanship has gone down to the state level.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Hey guys.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

guys, it isn't new. That's the way.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

redistricting.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Well,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Well, I, I, I asked him, I asked him if it was new,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

he said, and he replied,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

let him

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

him I know and I'm responding. I, I said, respond

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

all over the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

over the place. It was even more powerful.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

when there weren't

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

There is an old joke. There's an old joke that, the voters are supposed to choose the politicians, but in redistricting, the politicians choose the voters.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

That's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

They decide on what voters they want in their districts.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Dr. Schneider.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

they wanna know the name and the address and the shoe size of every voter in their district. that's become a lot easier, in the age of

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

computer.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Yes. Where these. Districts can be determined

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

house

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

by house. It's a very complicated thing. Two years ago, I spent an afternoon with,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

one of

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of the experts on this,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Bruce

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Schneider.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

And we went

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

through all these districts and he had me draw districts

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

and I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I found it was really hard to

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Districts.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

it, it, it's a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a complicated thing. It is. You get a lot of computer.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I meant, I meant by the way, I met Bruce King. Oh yeah.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

who was

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Probably said

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

that

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

time,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

was

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

around here. Where do you see what artificial intelligence can do with this? Oh,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Oh.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

oh, I think you

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

be really.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

really on that.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that bill. That's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That's exactly,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I hadn't even begun to think about that yet.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

What would

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

would it do? Where if you, if you give it instructions to draw partisan districts, it'll draw partisan districts.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

You know.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

got an independent

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

commission

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

tasked with,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

how

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

how do you get artificial intelligence involved? I don't know. I don't, I don't use artificial intelligence. I don't know what it is.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I'm

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I'm scared of it. Mm-hmm. I've been arguing. With a

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

friend of

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of mine who thinks I'm crazy.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

We,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

you know, talking about legislatures and redistricting.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

we

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

We eased into the subject of, well, president Trump,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

ignore the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the constitution and run for a third term.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

And I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I thought I was, totally nuts. And most people I know think I'm nuts, but then. in your very good column this week,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

you referred

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to that

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

possibility.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Yes. And I said,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

well,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

even if he referred to it,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

it

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it must mean I'm not completely.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

am I? What?

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

What about this

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

third

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

term? Why, why can rose for third term? I said, would anyone be surprised to see President Trump in 2028, or 20 20 26, actually indicate that, he's going to ignore the Constitution. It's just a piece of paper. And say there's a national emergency of some kind, and for that reason, he's entitled to run for a third term. Few people would be surprised to see him do that and he probably would want to do it. We'll see what happens. That'd have to be something that looks like an emergency. I,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I can't figure out a way

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

except for the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for the fact that if he really does have the Supreme Court

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

totally in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

in his pocket,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

if

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

if the Supreme

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Court or the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

six.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Conservative

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

justice are just totally tied to issue.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that's not good for the legacy of the Supreme Court alone. No.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I just

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Just don't mean

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I don't should, and by the way, we're talking about the possibility of perhaps

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

having the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the president, pro proclaim martial law.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

He

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

He can't do it alone. No. Again, it's all in theory.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I mean,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I mean, it's the day of, but as you said, Trump

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

doesn't

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

seem to wanna read or can't read

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Constitution. Mm-hmm. But it's not un

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the power

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

of

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of the president. He don't need no stinking constitution. Tion. Thank you

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

very

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

much.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

very

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Very much.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I mean,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

picking up

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

where,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

bill Buki took

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

us.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

um, you

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

you also

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

talk a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a lot in that, that column about the need for, democrats to

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that, to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to find a voice they are looking for

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

a,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That's right. A voice.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

but. I'm

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I'm sure the Democrats can find

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a voice. I don't see them finding a voice that will unify the

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the party.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

It, the,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the polarization within.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that party

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That's right. They're angry and Democrats are really angry, and we see that happening all over the country. There's a radicalization of Democrats. We saw it in the New York mayoral vote. We're seeing it in Minnesota now in the vote from mayor of Minneapolis. Democrats are angry and they're moving to the left. That's not a unifying vote. Most places, certainly in the urban areas, in places where Democrats are left, Democrats are party defined by anger at President Trump. So that's not a good sign for a unified party that can unify the country. Well, I agree with you on that,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

but I, I, I would take it, went step further and say,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I don't see that

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the Democrats will be able to craft

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

kind of unity.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Yeah.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

will be difficult. There's no question about it.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

They

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

You mentioned in that column, they,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

they

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

did it in the Bill Clinton days when he emerged Yes. From nowhere and, became president. That's right. He articulated a vision, bill Clinton there. But who, who is, who is Bill Clinton right now? Where is he? Who, who is the equivalent of Clinton? Actually,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the daughter and her children of my primary care doctor went to.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

WA

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

up Jackson Hall recently

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

guess who was vacationing there too?

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

How come I saw the pictures so I know it's true.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Bill

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and Hillary, and I gotta tell you,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

bill

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

didn't look

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

well. He looked

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

He is better than Hillary did,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

but

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

but he has lost a

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a lot more

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

weight, so

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

so it seems to me that's where they're, they're out in Jackson Hole. probably the most popular Democrat out there is Obama.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

yeah

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

i agree with that. He's,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

so,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

he's, he's emerged from his, eight years, in charge

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

As

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

across the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the board popular figure he is. Yeah. Trump hasn't been

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

to,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to, insult him and knock him down like he does with anybody else. That's right. Hold. Oh, no, he's talking about trying Alba Obama for treason now because of Yeah,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I mean,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I mean that's a little because of his connections to Russia,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Right.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And his middle name. Mm-hmm. We were talking about candidates and things like that. well,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

we

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

have one less candidate for Governor of California.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that's, Kamala Harris. she say, now, democratic

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

nominee for,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

today

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

for,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for, president last time, has announced she's not going to run for Governor of California and

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

didn't

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

say what she's gonna do after that. I don't know how I can put this together, but, Our long discussion of redistricting and,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

the. Battle

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for the Democratic presidential nomination, which

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Harris has probably

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

may be part of

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

of all

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

seems to fit together, you'd probably say

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to me, you write on my paper. This student has not thought this out.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Go,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Go, go back to your dorm. Mm-hmm.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

AI

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Or a a hasn't thought it out.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I don't see the connection really. What

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

What

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

is the connection? I'm not sure I may

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

retreat my and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And think it out again through the next podcast.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And when you do add this, it doesn't

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

to, to

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to restructure districts

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

in order, let's say Texas is restructuring them.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

In

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

In order to make some

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

more

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

heavily Republican,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

you're

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

you're gonna have to take

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Republicans

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Republicans from other districts,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

which then may

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

then may make those districts perhaps

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

a

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a little bit more competitive.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

It's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

not axiomatic.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

That

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

That this will

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

simply help gain

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

seats.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

It

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

It may make

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

other

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

seats and Republican seats

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

more competitive for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for Democrats.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

if

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the voting public is acting like it's voting now,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that's not gonna help

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Well, currently democratic districts, de Democratic members of the house are elected by much larger majorities of than Republican members of the house, so they can suffer the consequences of losing some Democratic supporters and still stay elected. It's certainly true in California. Yeah.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Not

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Not so much true. I guess

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Texas, but true enough. But it's, it,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it, it, it's a crapshoot really,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

depending on

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

on where we are and what

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

is.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and how the lines

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

drawn. I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I remember the good old

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

one

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

reapportionment had a district that apparently had almost 400 sides.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

There

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

There was one district

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that was

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

was called the Snake,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

which was

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

very narrow.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and it

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it went from Central California up to Northern California.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Willie

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Brown insisted

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that his porch, Porsche

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

mechanic. Be

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

be in his district.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Another

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

legislator from the north,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

insisted

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

all of

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

of the churches that were in his district remain

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

in his district.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And my favorite,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

which

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

was, the

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

district

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

District of Congress, Phil Burton,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

drew for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

his. Brother

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

A

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

a legislator state, John John Berg,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and up around

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the San Francisco Bay area, which was contiguous

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

only at low

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

low tide. At low tide. Yeah,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

those were the days well turning to,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

we, we might, I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I really doubt

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

that

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

that's be able.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

put together, in time. I mean, there's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

there's just too much

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

mechanics involved in

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

in the question itself.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Yeah. And New York, New York didn't do it

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

really will

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

will only begin to deal

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

with the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the 2030

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

census. So

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

So

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

it's

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

it's a, yeah, it's a fantasy

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

by

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

by and large.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

but

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

And

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

What's, what's

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

to Kamala

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Harris?

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

she disappear

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

From the scene? I have a

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

that she

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

mind. Or, is she going to run for president? Is she gonna be a factor in all of this?

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

In

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

this? No, I, this presidential race coming up

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Bill

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Schneider, I don't think so.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I agree.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Why is

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

is that? lost. She lost badly and embarrassingly,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

well,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

but she didn't lose badly. She lost. Yeah.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I mean, that's it. She lost.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

and.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

forget one thing. Donald Trump won narrowly without a plurality by beating two women. He beat Hillary Clinton, that he beat, beat Kamala Harris. That emphasized his image of strength, which is what people see in Trump.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

I am not

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I'm not sure it's gonna.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

true. I see it. Maybe I'm

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

I'm just

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

doing

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

wishful thinking, but lately I, that strength, that image of strength is a little blurry,

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

mainly ironically,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

because of the Epstein Files scandal. Well, that's hurting. There's no question. It is hurting him without question is

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

his, uh,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

uh, approval ratings are significantly low.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Even

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

his ratings on his own good.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

issues

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

like immigration, like the economy

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

are

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

not strong, not as tough as they were

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

before.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

all this

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

screaming and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

and yelling hell.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

began, and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

And we are seeing Republicans on many yet who

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

who are

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

are not

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

bending the

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

the need.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

ax thematically

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

Mm-hmm.

squadcaster-20dc_2_07-30-2025_151927:

Trump.

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

There's one big puzzle factor in American politics right now, which is why the economy is doing so well. Stock market is holding up. the, the economy looks pretty good. People expected the tariffs to have a devastating impact. Well, they just, they're just starting, this week. They're starting on August 1st, but so far we're not seeing any terrible downturn. We're seeing consumer confidence holding up reasonably well. There are some. Troublesome signs, but there's nothing like an impending collapse of the economy. It's not like it was at the end of the bush, George W. Bush administration, when everything was co collapsing with the stock market in 2 0 0 8. We're not seeing anything like that, and that's a bit of a surprise.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

Well,

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

bill, Sherry, thanks a lot, bill

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

for

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

for coming in,

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

talking

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

to us.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

we

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

we appreciate it

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

and

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

we'll see you as always. My pleasure. We'll see you next time.

host-4ha0_2_07-30-2025_151928:

which won't be

bill-schneider--he-_2_07-30-2025_181928:

be too far off. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Take care.