HOTLCast: Life is Messy – And So Are We

In this episode, we chat with the two newer voices to the HOTL team—Matt and Jared! We kick things off with some laughs (including Jared’s iconic Sesame Street tee and a graveyard strawberry fundraiser story you'll want to see yourself), and then dive deep into what their first few weeks at Heart O' The Lakes have been like.

From there, we lean into our current series, Messy, where we’ve been tackling hard but necessary conversations. This week, we open up about depression—how it affects us, how we process it, and where our faith fits in when life gets overwhelming. Jared, Matt, and Cyle all share personal stories and reflections that show just how real and common these struggles are, even in leadership.

We believe the church should be a place where hard things aren’t hidden, but brought into the light. If you’re struggling, you're not alone—and this episode is a reminder that there’s hope, help, and healing on the other side of honesty.

The only way out is through—and we’re in this together.