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Ep.155 - Stop Seeking Clarity. Start Trusting the Whispers With Arianna Isabella
We explore the profound shift from seeking external clarity to finding internal certainty with my dear soul sister and Italian goddess Ariana Isabella. This episode unpacks how to break free from anxiety loops by recognizing that we're not creating our future, but remembering it.
• Distinguishing between clarity (driven by fear) and certainty (rooted in trust)
• Understanding intuition as a technology that reveals itself as you follow it
• Recognizing how the parts of others that trigger you reflect suppressed aspects of yourself
• Navigating Saturn Return as a powerful cleansing initiation around age 28-30
• Embracing your "weird" multidimensional nature instead of hiding it
• The philosophy of "getting paid to play" - reclaiming your natural gifts as valuable artistry
• How reconnecting with your inner child reveals your deepest truth and authenticity
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Hello Soul Diggers. Welcome back to the very first guest episode of season three. And boy have we got a treat for you today. So one of the beautiful things about taking a break for a year from the podcast is I have been cultivating some really deep, intimate relationships with the most amazing souls, and when I was tuning in to who to invite as the first guest, this woman just popped into my heart and was like this woman's voice needs to be heard. Ariana Isabella is an Italian goddess. She's a multi-dimensional manifesting generator whose soul cannot possibly be fit into a biography, but what I will tell you is she is a dear friend, an amazing leader and a weirdo. Welcome to the show thank you.
Speaker 2:Would you agree with the weirdo? Yeah, completely, completely. Thank you so much for this amazing introduction. I'm really stoked and low-key, like freaking out, like honored to be here. Uh, honored to know that you just thought about me and, yes, we've been cultivating this beautiful relationship which has gifted so many, so many breakthroughs and insights on our path, I believe. So it's so beautiful that we get to share our little crazy conversations on your podcast today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree so many of our conversations I'm like damn it, that would make such a good podcast. We just need to share this with the world. But just for some context as well, I am an air sign, so I'm an Aquarius, and Ariana is a Taurus, very grounded. So you know, she really helps to soothe my soul and brings me back down to earth.
Speaker 2:so thank you Wow and you really, I think we're so like there's, there's a completion in the energy of us both because you like help me hold the vision, the bigger picture, like because, taurus, as a Taurus, I'm very like grounded, yes, but also like we get to kind of lose ourselves in too much of the concrete aspect of life. And how does this work? And all the dynamics, this work and all the dynamics, and when I just get in the space with you and you are able to hold me so beautifully in, like immediately gifting me a bigger picture of what's happening, of what really is going on, and this is what I experienced in our last session together I just, I just cracked up, like on a very, very deep level, because I felt, oh my God, I felt home in that vision. I felt home in that image that you were, you know, helping me see of what was really going on. So it's incredible this combination.
Speaker 1:Thank you, my love, yeah, and this feeling of, of home. What was it particularly that helped you feel seen in your soul's journey? Because this is you know, this is why we're here right to, to evolve and grow and and transcend basically the awareness that we are not creating our future.
Speaker 2:We are remembering it.
Speaker 2:That really hit home for me.
Speaker 2:That really hit home and also like it gave me another insight after that.
Speaker 2:We expect that intuition is this thing, that when we tune into it, it will show us every little detail of all of our lives and what we're going to do and where we're going to do and who are we going to be with. But intuition it's actually it's a technology that reveals itself as you follow it. So it really clicked to me this two pieces of the puzzle, like remembering that I'm not creating something that doesn't exist. I'm remembering who I am and that intuition is guiding me and I just need to follow it. That's basically all I need to do. So if my intuition tells me to go back to Sicily right now, I don't really need to know exactly what will happen. I just need to go there because that's where my intuition is guiding me and when I will be there. I need to trust right now that when I will land in that place, intuition is going to reveal itself again, showing me the next path, and we see the evidence of this, looking back at our lives. That's how it works basically, yeah, the certainty.
Speaker 1:The certainty to just take the next step and not need to figure out the whole staircase and what. How have you found this certainty? Because you were looking for certainty in. I need to know that the next step will look like this, but I was looking for clarity, yeah, and you, you helped me discern.
Speaker 2:You helped me discern clarity from certainty and you gave me this higher perspective. So then again, that's exactly what I was saying before how you're able to wider the vision, uh, for me. So I was looking for something which was clarity, which was coming from a need to know, that was coming from fear, that was coming from scarcity, and you came into the picture, helping me ground back, land back in my heart and and actually find a space where I can really feel confident in my path, because I wasn't feeling like. I thought that clarity would give me the confidence, but that was just a loop. That was just like I want to know. I want to know, I want to know.
Speaker 2:Certainty is like look, you have nothing to create here, you have only to remember. And your creation is about how you want to play this remembrance game. How do you want to play it? So that's where you get creative. So, instead of being like anxious or fearful, why don't you get curious about what you're creating moment by moment, knowing that you're remembering your future and that there's, yeah, certainty is in the moment by moment. You know being fully present here and now and how?
Speaker 1:how different does life feel now that you've removed that loop? Right, because if we feel like we're constantly experiencing the same reality, there's a loop, there's a pattern that keeps on showing up and unless we're aware of that pattern, you know we keep looping and wonder why we're looping. So, yeah, ariana's talking to is we basically had a soul session and I read her soul and I was like, wow, this woman is so powerful and I saw the life that she was coming from with her south node and the life that she was moving towards. So when you're clear on your north node and where your soul is is moving towards, it's very obvious the challenge, the challenges that are appearing and why they're appearing. And as soon as you have that awareness, it's like, oh okay, now I can break that loop. So how do you feel to break the loop? What does that look like for you?
Speaker 2:ah, I just I just experienced a calmer environment within myself. I just experienced, like, also, I could actually like see with with more, yeah, clarity, which is, which is a paradox, right, but that's where, like, clarity was a byproduct of certainty. That's it, like, that's why we get in the loop, because we expect things that are actually byproducts of something else. So that's why we need guides, we need people that are able to guide us back to the root of where we are guided towards, and that's when we will have what we thought we wanted, but as a byproduct of that. I hope I made it clear.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, the clarity you were looking for was not actually in the answers you were seeking were looking for was not actually in in the answers you were seeking. Yeah, the clarity came from having the certainty that the answers would appear yes, and also releasing the need to have clarity, to know everything.
Speaker 2:Um, that session gave me like if it gave me something specific. It gave me this permission to release the need to know, release the need to be anywhere else rather than where I am right now. And this is the most powerful thing, and I know that who might be hearing this? I know you've heard this, I know you've read these things so many times like this is so cliche. Right, like be in the here and now and you can only create your life from the present moment. Yeah, right, but when was the last time you really experienced it?
Speaker 1:right, and you know the amount of times that I need to remind myself as well. The present moment is all that we have right now, and I think the most fulfilled, happy, successful people will be the ones who can drop into the present moment, because there is so much noise, so much distraction, there is so much AI technology that can disconnect us from our soul, so the human connection and the need to tap into that presence is essential, especially for people like you, because your Scorpio is in the fifth house, which is all about creativity, romance, joy, and how can you reach your full potential and your soul's expression of joy and just like really feeling life and using your life as a paintbrush if you're always worried about the future or stuck in the past? You know your creativity depends on your ability to drop into the present moment.
Speaker 2:Hmm yes, that that resonates a lot and that's actually so funny because these aspects of my um was it the south, the south node where I'm going, or the north node, the south?
Speaker 1:where you're coming from. So you've come from being a tourist. So you were like like anchored into the freaking ground, needing to know the next step. There's a lot of tourists going on. That's where you're coming from, and so your biggest fears were being fully seen and surrendering to the unknown and like being in your fullest expression, like your, your, your raw, sensual essence yes, and that's that's funny because, uh, I want to share this reflection because that that that might resonate with who's listening.
Speaker 2:Um, that were the aspects that I was judging in others because I feared it myself. So when I was little, uh, people used to call me when I I'm half Italian and when I used to go at school, people would call me scat. So mafia, which literally means I mean I know, I think you know what mafia means, but it meant like because I was never smiling, I would never smile. Uh, because I thought that actually I had this belief that women who smiled a lot were actually a little bit stupid and that serious women that held dignity and power, they would, you know, cry on their own without being seen out of the public eye, they would not share their whatever vulnerabilities and they would not smile often. That's the kind of womanhood that I was taught through the woman in my lineage, and when I started my awakening, I started to unravel all of these aspects and I started to see how I was judging these parts.
Speaker 2:And now that you're adding these pieces as well for my natal chart like you can't make this up right like it was written in the stars that that's exactly where I am meant to go in the spaces and edges that I would at first, you know, fear or judge or not understand in others. And that's exactly my medicine right now. That's so powerful and I think Saturn return really helps with that, because Saturn return has to do with humbling you right Like I feel very humbled by my Saturn return, which I'm still going through. Like Saturn return really put me a little bit, you know, on the earth again, but in a very selfless way and grounded way so for anyone who's unfamiliar with the Saturn return, could you give like an elevator pitch?
Speaker 2:well, basically Saturn return comes around. You know are from the 28th 29th year of your life until the 30th and the 31st. I am not an astrologist, but what I can say and I can say from my experience. But basically Saturn has to do with integrity, has to do with taking responsibility, it has to do with facing all that you need to face in order for you to rise in your power. So it really cleansed me on a deep level, like I had.
Speaker 2:I created a business, I created authority with my voice, with my presence, I was speaking on stages, I was making 10K months and all that beautiful fluffy stuff, and then it kind of it kind of yeah, yeah, it destroyed everything as, as you know, a very kali energy. But I mean, at first I was all caught up in my, in my head, but then when I saw the bigger picture, I said okay, wow, yes, like the universe and god through the universe is kind of preparing me to hold that power, but from a cleansed, purified space um, yeah, and I think it's really important to understand these parts of the soul's journey.
Speaker 1:So if anyone's listening to this and you're, like you know between 28 and 30 and thinking your whole world is falling apart, it's actually not. You're just realigning to a higher level of integrity and I feel what I love to do with these podcasts is bring that awareness. Like you are not broken, you are not lost. You are a beautiful soul who is just remembering. And it's funny that you mentioned about the saturn, because thank you for that reminder, because, being in the uk, my saturn line is in the uk, so it is a come back to earth, sort your shit out, just like and I feel like that is what is happening.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm really getting this new level of integrity with the real world and leaning into all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, thank you for that reminder as well yeah, so yeah if anyone is resonating with you know, the fact that you said you know all the parts of you that were triggered by other people in their fullest expression was actually your soul suppressing that within yourself. This, again, is a really powerful piece of the soul's journey because we are all connected. So if there's something that you see in someone else that brings up jealousy or frustration or I can't believe that they do that on Instagram, like I'm always dancing on Instagram I'm sure people think like I would never do that there's really a part of you that wants to express that. So a moment of pause and just ask yourself who are those people or what are those feelings within my body that are coming up right now that are maybe activating those pieces in places that I'm actually, you know, repressing weirdo, right, like we always say it to each other, like you're such a weirdo and that's that's such like a testament to this liberation.
Speaker 2:Part of my story, like I really gave myself permission to be the freaking weirdo that I'm here to be and that's actually all that my art is all about is being your multi-dimensional self, is, you know, channeling all that you are in the nuances and there's no only black and white, but that's actually so true to our feminine nature as well. You know to be all of these aspects of ourselves and that's so beautiful and what is the weirdest thing about you?
Speaker 2:an artist friend told me yesterday she is, she's also Italian, but she, uh, she was brought up American, basically, and she works, she, she does a similar job as us and she works in English, but she follows me in my Italian, you know, sharings and page, and she's like, I really admire the capacity that you have to hold authority and the irony as well and, like the, the, the humor of all in the same sentence and that was such a powerful and beautiful reflection which I believe that's my weird like, like I can literally, like you know, be the.
Speaker 2:I can hold the paradoxes so clearly, you know, and so probably unconditionally, and I don't really ask permission or I don't really need to explain myself. And people that come in my world, I like, at first they're like, uh, who is this girl and what is she doing and why is she? And then they're like, but there's something, you know, that keeps them there, that keeps them anchored and keeps them, you know, connected to my sharings and to my voice and to my presence, and until they remember what I'm reminding them of, um, and that's a weird thing yes, definitely.
Speaker 1:And if you were to look at this glorious goddess, she's covered in tattoos on her chest and she's got this big brown curly hair. Oh, um, your energy feels like a big long hug, aww yeah it's so beautiful to hear. So what is it like to be you right now, um?
Speaker 2:Wow, nice, beautiful Kim questions. I believe it's like going through, it's like wait a second. It's like a water tornado developing in multiple butterflies and different colored creatures revealing themselves. I still feel in the midst of a very deep purification process and it feels empowering, though it doesn't feel like I I'm. I. I feel like I'm over the oh my god, what's happening to me? And when we, when we met in october, I was pretty much in that phase of oh my god, I'm dying, it's gonna happen to me. There was so much pain as well, and now I feel like in the empower, empowered state of that process yeah, because this is the the process of transformation.
Speaker 1:It's death and rebirth. So the the more comfortable people can get with that process, the the fact, the the more fulfilling and beautiful life will feel, the more peace you'll cultivate. You know, peace isn't sitting in a corner and hoping nothing changes. Peace is being able to lean into any environment, any circumstance, knowing that what's on the other side is good, is from creator and is and is here to help you grow. So transformation is the death and rebirth process constantly, you know, and the only constant thing in life is change. So understanding your astrology, and your north node particularly, really helps you to navigate that change. And now you've got a roadmap of like oh okay, this is why I'm going through this challenge and this is what I need to do. Like, yeah, it feels empowering yes, yes it does.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I mean it's, it's such, I feel like it's also. It's also beautiful, and I've I've had the, the evidence of this. Working with you like you recently went through a very, very powerful initiation I would call it with a Saturn line, with you going back to to England, and you've had to face and guide yourself through different phases and through this you know experience, you. You were able to extract the wisdom that then you also gave to me in our session and you also shared to me that that was like a true embodied wisdom. That, I believe, is also part of your gift. It's not that you just see people and that's it. No, you've walked what you're able to see, like you don't only see it because you see it, you see it because you've been there and that's so powerful. So, especially for people hearing this episode that are in service as us, if you're here to guide people through anything, you will have to go through it. So that's also another piece.
Speaker 2:It's not that we have to do it for others. We do it for us, of course, but in the midst of it, something that I've personally helped me so much is wow, what story am I weaving into the big book of my life right now. So when I go through really hard times, you know I say wow, this chapter is gonna be so romantic, in the heartbreak and in the tears and in my and how I felt and how deep I went and what I I saw within myself. And you know I also kind, because we love romanticizing also, which doesn't mean we stay in the loop of the pain because that that we get addicted to it. It doesn't mean that it's that in each moment that we live, we're also, in the same moment, aware that we are actually writing the book of our lives, which is going to be such a powerful testament of the message that we carry for the new generations and for the people that we're here to impact. So that's also something big, you know you are so in your north node.
Speaker 1:Right now I can feel the scorpio passion just like and I can't wait to read your book and I'm I'm so happy that you're a part of my book and I'm sure. I'm a part of your chapter of life and you know, when your soul came into my life, I was like who is this gorgeous soul? You just felt so. I felt so seen in your presence and I really felt your. You have this deep devotion to your mission and your work.
Speaker 2:You know you're here to serve so for the people who are listening, who, like they weren't really able to fit in this society, this system, uh, multi-passionate people. I know what it means to be a manager in this world and I know what it means to be passionate of a lot of things and feeling like a failure because this society glorifies linear paths, and I'm actually really looking forward to dive deeper in the human design path because I believe that's also, you know, there's some wisdom that can also be so helpful in that. But basically I'm here to serve creatives, people that are not here to do things. Linear Path, you know, path creators, change makers, revolutionaries, creatives, artists of all paths filmmakers, revolutionaries, creatives, artists of all paths.
Speaker 1:And you're also Italian. Like English is not even your first language, as you can tell. Probably no. Like it's incredible, yeah. And what makes you a soul digger? Like this show is all about you, you know, reminding people of who they are. If you were to feel into the energy of a soul digger, how would you describe?
Speaker 2:it's in my being like it's difficult to describe something that you feel you just are right because it's not something that you hold, that is, it's separate from you, but it's part of you, and I feel like it's just in my way of approaching life, constantly searching for a deeper meaning or, you know, just listening for the deeper meaning to emerge from, from the surface depth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's also scorpio yeah, the depth, yeah, and with the depth also comes seeing more of everything, right? So I'm sure you'll agree on this journey like when you access more light, you also see more shite. You know, it's like turning the light on fully in the bedroom and you see all the dust in the corners. So, really understanding the spiritual journey and having an awareness of your unique soul's blueprint really helps you to clean up those dusty corners and not be so like, oh my god, I'm going through this darkness because, yes, we can experience struggle and pain, and there's been definitely times where I've been crawling on the floor, not necessarily walking, um, but it doesn't have to be that way. And I love how you said you know you're here to help people, to get paid to play tell us a little bit more about that before we wrap up this.
Speaker 1:This first guest episode back.
Speaker 2:Yeah well pay to play is about dismantling all the beliefs that we need to struggle in order to be worthy of being compensated by what we do, and it's about restoring wealth in the hands of passionate people and that if something is actually easy to you, that's your artistry. That's not something that you should. You know, usually people because it's easy for you to do it, people would demand discounts, or the same people that provide the service would feel like they need to provide a discount. But that's actually your artistry. That's like because it's easy for you to do it doesn't mean it's easy for everybody.
Speaker 2:So I really believe that this has to do with such a wider picture that goes beyond entrepreneurship and business.
Speaker 2:It has to do with really restoring our beliefs around worthiness and that playing is actually our nature, like we just don't stop being kids because we grow as adults, like there's a child within us that is still alive and that's actually the pulsating heart of our being.
Speaker 2:I believe that our inner child is our, our truth. So when we connect, have you ever met like big maestros, like people that really are oh my god, like devoted to the path, like for 50 years of their lives? And every time I've met these people, shamans, really, really teachers of the walk of life. They have this childlike energy within them, they hold the wisdom and the power of a dragon, but they also have the humor of a child. That is five years old, you know, and that I feel the essence, I feel the soul of a being when I feel their inner child. So to to play to um, play to get paid has to do with that. To bring back that essence, the childlike essence of purity, of connection, of spontaneity, of authenticity, um, and that's such a gift to be able to do that beautiful here to get paid to play absolutely, adiana, my love.
Speaker 1:This has been a really potent episode back. I knew it will be and before before we go, I want to share one of my favorite moments with you, and this is what I love about. Like I, the guests that are on the show are people that I have connections with and I've really felt their resonance. And you invited me to come and stay at your beautiful home in crete and you planned this adventure for us to go camping overnight and I was so excited to go camping and sleep under the stars with you and you'd organized everything. You got the tent. You were just like, oh, it felt so, so abundant to receive your generosity in that way, and we made campfires at night and we woke up on the beach in the mornings and that was such a sweet, sweet memory I have of us.
Speaker 2:So thank you thank you so much. I do remember the morning when we were trying to close the tent it's one of them flip up tents.
Speaker 1:You know when you flick and they open and we're trying to close that thing. It must have been at least an hour.
Speaker 2:I love, I love our belly laughs, and that's, that's indeed one of the best memories. Yet we still have a lot to write.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, I see you. I know the listeners will deeply resonate with your soul. Where can they find you?
Speaker 2:Well, basically I'm present on Instagram at Arianna with two Ns I-I-Zabella n's uh ee zabella. So I I zabella, but I'm sure kim will write this somewhere in the in the description, so sexy, just isabella absolutely go and hold this woman down, go and work with her if you're feeling resonant.
Speaker 1:You know, when you go onto instagram, it feels like you walk into an art gallery. I'm like seriously, wow, you're making me up my instagram game for sure. So yeah, I appreciate you, thank you and until we meet again in person, my love yay, thank you so much.